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TEPE DOUBLE MURDER: SHOT 16X WEARING WEDDING BANDS · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: From day one. I knew you were something special.
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Speaker 3: He saw the video of her wedding.
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Speaker 4: Here's a body, there's a body. He appears dead.
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Speaker 2: I had quite a journey to get to you.
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Speaker 5: Six stained bullets, a motive for murder. He's been bubbling
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Speaker 5: and brewing and simmering, just pure hatred.
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Speaker 6: It was his final dominance and triumph.
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Speaker 3: If I can't have you, no one else will.
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Speaker 7: On December thirty, twenty twenty five, at approximately ten oh
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Speaker 7: four am, Columbus Police Patrol officers were dispatched to the
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Speaker 7: fourteen hundred block of North Fores Street on a well
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Speaker 7: being checked. Officers arrived at scene and located the two
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Speaker 7: adult victims suffering from apparent gunshot wounds. We now know
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Speaker 7: that they were identified as mister Spencer and missus Monique Techy.
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Speaker 7: Their two small children are also found in the resident
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Speaker 7: physically unharmed.
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Speaker 5: Who would murder a husband and wife in their own
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Speaker 5: home around Christmas? Leaving their children They're tots upstairs to
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Speaker 5: come down the next morning and find mommy and daddy dead.
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Speaker 5: Everybody and their brother was calling nine one one about
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Speaker 5: the dentist not showing up to work and the wife
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Speaker 5: not picking up the phone.
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Speaker 1: Police go to the scene but say nothing.
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Speaker 8: Listen, I guess I would like to ask for a
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Speaker 8: wellness check on an individual at their home. This individual,
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Speaker 8: Spenter works with me, and he did not show up
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Speaker 8: to work this morning, and we cannot get a hold
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Speaker 8: of him or his family. He is always on time
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Speaker 8: and he would contact us that there is any issues whatsoever.
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Speaker 8: And at the centeral house to say, this's like, we're very,
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Speaker 8: very concerned because this is very out of character and
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Speaker 8: we can't get in Dutch with his wife, which is
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Speaker 8: problem with the more concerning things.
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Speaker 9: When doctor Spencer Tempe doesn't show up for work at
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Speaker 9: Athens Dental Depot in Columbus, Ohio, coworkers are so shocked
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Speaker 9: they call their boss, the owner of Athens Dental, doctor
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Speaker 9: Mark Valrose. Valrose is on vacation in Florida, but Spencer
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Speaker 9: not showing up is so unusual coworkers felt the need
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Speaker 9: to let Valros know. Valroz tries to contact Spencer and
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Speaker 9: failing at that, Teppi's wife, Monique, as she's even more
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Speaker 9: predictable than her husband. Unable to reach either Tempee, Valroz
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Speaker 9: calls nine to one one in Columbus, Ohio, at nine
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Speaker 9: oh three am, requesting a wellness check.
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Speaker 10: Let's see emergency there. Our boss did not report for work.
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Speaker 6: We haven't been able to get a hold of.
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Speaker 10: Them for three hours.
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Speaker 11: We are on site and.
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Speaker 12: We can hear.
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Speaker 10: Okay, I go off to somebody there. Okay, I'm just
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Speaker 10: making sure somebody call them.
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Speaker 13: Officers arrive at the Tepee residence at nine twenty two am.
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Speaker 13: Officers knock on the front door multiple times but get
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Speaker 13: no response. Checking the door and windows, officers see no
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Speaker 13: sign of disturbance. At the back door off, Officers again
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Speaker 13: knock multiple times, no response, repeating the process. Officers failed
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Speaker 13: to get a response and file the report in their
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Speaker 13: log book. No response.
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Speaker 5: So all these nine one one calls are coming in.
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Speaker 5: The dentist hasn't shown up. The dentist hasn't shown up.
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Speaker 5: Why are they that upset about a teeth cleaning or
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Speaker 5: a cavity being filled? Let's listen to more.
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Speaker 10: Okay, we do have officers responding there. Do you know
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Speaker 10: if he's been ill or anything like that?
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Speaker 4: No, No, I was just continues today.
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Speaker 10: Let's the emergency there, Please are medical.
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Speaker 4: Maybe both I guess I don't know.
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Speaker 14: I'm kind of doing well.
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Speaker 10: We had a call out there. They knocked on the
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Speaker 10: front door and back door multiple times and there was
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Speaker 10: no answer.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no answer.
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Speaker 4: I can hear kids inside, and I swear I think
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Speaker 4: I heard one yell, but we can't.
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Speaker 5: Get in straight out to investigative reporter, journalist, author of
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Speaker 5: Down the Hill, My Descent into the Double Murder in Delphi.
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Speaker 5: You know her well, Susan Hendrix. Susan, thank you for
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Speaker 5: being with us. So I'm not sure. I'm just playing
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Speaker 5: a selection of nine one one calls to dispatch.
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Speaker 1: Who's getting more and more pod.
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Speaker 5: That's a Latin phrase from law school, and.
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Speaker 1: They're like, we send somebody. They and they left.
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Speaker 5: Nobody answered. But then you've got neighbors and coworkers now
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Speaker 5: all walking around the house and they hear a child
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Speaker 5: screaming inside, and the dispatch officer just really was just
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Speaker 5: too busy doing her nails.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Nancy. You could hear it in her voice and
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Speaker 2: her pauses. Even I was listening to all the nine
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Speaker 2: one one calls and she's thinking, he's just like for work.
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Speaker 2: She has a preconceived notion about what's going on here.
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Speaker 2: But the first call is what is a bit odd
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Speaker 2: to me. It came in around eight fifty eight. The
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Speaker 2: office opens at eight a m. Spencer lives about seventy
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Speaker 2: three miles from work, so if you put the timeline together,
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Speaker 2: he's what. Let's an hour later work and someone's calling
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Speaker 2: nine one one for a wellness check. To me, that stands.
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Speaker 1: Out right now.
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Speaker 5: My mind is stuck on the neighbors and the coworkers
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Speaker 5: walking all they finally go to the home. Now, remember, Dispatch,
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Speaker 5: while she's doing her nails, has just said, did we
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Speaker 5: send somebody out there? They knocked on the door, nothing happened.
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Speaker 1: Okay, listen to this.
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Speaker 13: Another friend calls nine to one one and tells the
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Speaker 13: dispatcher they haven't been able to get into the house
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Speaker 13: and he thought he heard one of the children yelling.
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Speaker 13: Other friends arrive at the Teppee home, as well as
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Speaker 13: coworkers who are walking around the house, some in the front,
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Speaker 13: some in the back. Nine one one Dispatch is receiving
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Speaker 13: calls back to back from the same address, each trying
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Speaker 13: to get help for their friends, not knowing others we're
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Speaker 13: calling at the same time.
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Speaker 10: What's changed since the last person I talked to?
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Speaker 4: There's a body. There's a body.
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Speaker 10: Here's a body inside. Yeah, okay, hold on one second,
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Speaker 10: let me get you on the line with the medic. Okay,
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Speaker 10: on the line.
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Speaker 4: Appears dead.
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Speaker 5: There's a body inside. Wow, talk about egg.
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Speaker 1: On her face. Let's hear the rest of that.
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Speaker 4: Nine on one's a body. Our friend wasn't in transphone.
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Speaker 4: We just did a well of ship. We just getting
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Speaker 4: here and he appears dead. Okay, this blood she's laying
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Speaker 4: next to his bed, off of his best in his blood.
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Speaker 4: I think people ashore too more than that.
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Speaker 14: Okay, they can tell he's obviously not reading ornything? Is
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Speaker 14: it like how to like like how to you know?
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Speaker 14: Because it doesn't look great.
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Speaker 4: I can't, I can't look Okay, all right, I understand.
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Speaker 5: Tom Smith, a veteran NYPD, now star up Goal Shields podcast.
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Speaker 1: Tom.
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Speaker 5: The casings were found on the scene. I believe three cases.
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Speaker 5: What does that tell you, Tom?
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Speaker 1: No weapon, And that's why they're saying it's not a murder.
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Speaker 5: Suicide because how can you shoot the spouse and shoot
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Speaker 5: yourself and the weapon.
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Speaker 1: Walk out the front door, So it's not murder suicide?
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Speaker 1: What do you make of the casings?
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Speaker 9: Yeah?
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Speaker 15: The casings are interesting. Because I don't think, you know,
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Speaker 15: it's been speculated a couple of times that it's a
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Speaker 15: professional hit. A professional is going to take the casings
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Speaker 15: with him. The fact that they're left there is just
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Speaker 15: someone who did what they wanted to do. And I
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Speaker 15: do believe this was a targeted hit and then just
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Speaker 15: got out of there when they could and didn't weren't
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Speaker 15: concerned about the casings. But the casings are so vitally
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Speaker 15: important in this because of the DNA evidence from it.
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Speaker 5: Joining me right now is a military vet sharp shooter
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Speaker 5: CoA Lorimar uh CoA. Thanks for being with us very quickly.
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Speaker 5: I want to follow up on what Tom Smith just said.
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Speaker 5: Explain to me how show me how DNA can be
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Speaker 5: left on a casing when loading a gun, preferably a
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Speaker 5: nine but any gun.
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Speaker 16: Well, Nancy, this right here is a nine millimeter round.
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Speaker 16: The top part is the bullet and the back part
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Speaker 16: is the casing. Now, you can get DNA off this
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Speaker 16: casing by fingerprints and sweat and whatever else they have
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Speaker 16: on their hands when loading the weapon. So this is
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Speaker 16: how you load magazine right here. And also there are
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Speaker 16: certain marks that are left on the casing after the
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Speaker 16: round is fired. Now this is the pistol, a pistol
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Speaker 16: that this round can be fired from. The bulks out
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Speaker 16: the front and the casing is ejected out of the side. Now,
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Speaker 16: the firing pin leaves a mark on the back of
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Speaker 16: the casing, which is unique to the weapon. Then the
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Speaker 16: extractor leaves scratches on the casing, which is also unique
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Speaker 16: to the weapon, and the ejector leaves dense on the casing. Now,
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Speaker 16: all these marks can be traced straight back to the
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Speaker 16: weapon it's fired from, and that could link the suspect
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Speaker 16: to the gun. You can also link the suspect to
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Speaker 16: the casing based on the fingerprints they get off the
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Speaker 16: casing itself.
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Speaker 5: Okay, I see what you're saying, Tom, Thank you CoA.
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Speaker 5: Who would shoot these two dead?
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Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like a pro to me.
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Speaker 5: In the home in a very congested neighborhood, the houses
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Speaker 5: are like this, up and down, like two and three story,
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Speaker 5: not wide but tall, and they're one after one after
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Speaker 5: one after one after the next. So there's got to
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Speaker 5: be a ring doorbell cam and I'm going to show
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Speaker 5: you the video of who may be the perp, This
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Speaker 5: could be the killer. Susan Hendrix described what are we
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Speaker 5: seeing here and why is this significant?
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Speaker 2: I have to say, Nancy, that would appears to be
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Speaker 2: a back alley of sorts, and this is at of course,
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Speaker 2: at odd time two to five am. It appears to
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Speaker 2: knows the area because you see him kind of ducking
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Speaker 2: or maybe knowing there's a camera in the vicinity. Is
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Speaker 2: that the guy? If it is, it looks like he
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Speaker 2: knows where he's going.
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Speaker 5: Dave mac joining me, Crime Stories, investigative reporter.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the video.
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Speaker 5: Susan's already told us it was between two and five am,
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Speaker 5: and how does that jibe with the time we believe
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Speaker 5: the killings went.
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Speaker 9: Down based on the timeline that police have already created, Nancy,
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Speaker 9: they say that they're talking about two am to five
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Speaker 9: am at the time that this action took place inside
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Speaker 9: the home, and that timetable we're looking at for the
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Speaker 9: guy walking in the alley is during that time period.
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Speaker 1: I'm curious about the neighborhood.
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Speaker 5: I don't see anybody else walking around between two and
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Speaker 5: five am. See the person walking. It looks like people
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Speaker 5: part their cars as you like you pull in in
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Speaker 5: front of the house. See on both sides of the street,
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Speaker 5: I see cars parked in front of the homes, like
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Speaker 5: where you put your trash out right there on the street.
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Speaker 1: They look to.
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Speaker 5: Be condos or two three story narrow homes.
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Speaker 1: So why is he walking up and down in.
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Speaker 5: A residential area at five o'clock two o'clock am, Sasan,
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Speaker 5: What can you tell me about the neighborhood.
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Speaker 2: I do know that there's only one bar in the
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Speaker 2: area that's open, because Spencer's brother in law came out
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Speaker 2: to say, like, hey, let's not jump to any conclusions.
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Speaker 2: Maybe it is the murder, maybe it's not. And there
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Speaker 2: is just one bar that's open at that time. So
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Speaker 2: was he there. I'm sure the investigators are going there
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Speaker 2: to decide. It just seems odd, right This street looks
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Speaker 2: very different by the way, Nancy, as you stated during
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Speaker 2: the day, during normal hours. It appears he knew this
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Speaker 2: this route, knew what to do, planned it.
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Speaker 5: In my opinion, you're seeing video of the home from
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Speaker 5: our friends at W S WHITEXABC six.
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Speaker 1: So this is a residential area.
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Speaker 5: Who is this guy walking up and down right near
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Speaker 5: the home. It's obviously caught on ring cam. Looks to
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Speaker 5: me like, that's what that is. Dave MATC, what can
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Speaker 5: you tell me.
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Speaker 14: Actually, ansy.
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Speaker 9: The next video is captured behind the home. There's an alley.
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Speaker 9: You mentioned how these homes are very close together and
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Speaker 9: going straight up right, Well, this is actually behind the home.
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Speaker 9: It's in an alleyway. And to what Miss Hendricks just
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Speaker 9: said a minute ago, somebody walking down that alley between
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Speaker 9: two am and five am is going to be very
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Speaker 9: familiar with the neighborhood to know where they are and
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Speaker 9: where they're going in that alleyway that neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: Video from ws YXABC six.
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Speaker 5: Tonight new evidence of an eerie door banging riddle near
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Speaker 5: the scene of the murder. How can that help me
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Speaker 5: prove who committed the murder? First of all, let's hear
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Speaker 5: that nine will one call.
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Speaker 10: That's the emergency.
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Speaker 16: We all smoking the wind doors.
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Speaker 10: Good time? Okay, someone's singing a knock in? Do you
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Speaker 10: know who this is? Do you have a description of them?
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Speaker 10: Have you told them? Have you asked them what they
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Speaker 10: want or if they need somethings?
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Speaker 5: Does it never end with these dispatch officers?
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Speaker 1: Uh? What does she want the victim to do?
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Speaker 5: Go out and say hi, come on in by the way,
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Speaker 5: what's your name?
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Speaker 1: And can I get a good id.
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Speaker 5: On you right now, completely, completely not helpful. Also, it's
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Speaker 5: several eleven days before the Dennis and his wife are murdered.
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Speaker 5: It's right down the street from the murder saint. And
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Speaker 5: also it's around two thirty a m. So the comparisons
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Speaker 5: are starting to add up. Two things coincident, three things. Uh,
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Speaker 5: there's a pattern.
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Speaker 17: Columbus police respond to a domestic dispute call the Tappy
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Speaker 17: residence a few months prior. Officers later report the couple
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Speaker 17: tells them no physical violence occurred and that police assistance
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Speaker 17: is no longer needed.
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Speaker 5: Much has been made about a prior we think domestic call.
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Speaker 1: What does that mean?
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Speaker 5: That means typically a man and a woman are arguing
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Speaker 5: within a residence and it's coming to blows. Is it connected?
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Speaker 5: It's from this home, It's from the home of the victims.
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Speaker 1: Let's listen to it.
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Speaker 14: I name one one. We just got to hang up call?
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Speaker 14: Is everything? Okay?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm a case ay, sure, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 10: I'm okay. Sorry.
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Speaker 14: Well it sounds like you're crying. Do you need police,
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Speaker 14: para meetics or anything?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 10: No, No, I'm okay, I'm just emotional.
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Speaker 12: Okay, I don't.
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Speaker 14: Can I ask what had you call a name one
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Speaker 14: one in the first place where you having an argument with.
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Speaker 10: But I'm okay, I promise.
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Speaker 14: Did anything ever get physical? No, you guys are just arguing.
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Speaker 14: Nobody hit each other. Yeah, okay, all right, man, Well
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Speaker 14: I have the information here, I can go ahead and
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Speaker 14: tell the officers to cancel hitting nobody your address therefore, yes,
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Speaker 14: tell us back, Okay, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 5: Finally a nine to one one dispatch officer that sounds
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Speaker 5: interested and like they care about what happens. Now, Susan Hendricks,
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Speaker 5: there has been some discussion that that is not the
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Speaker 5: murder victim.
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Speaker 2: Monique, Absolutely Spencer's brother in law marriage to Spencer's sister,
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Speaker 2: came out right away and said, if you know Monique,
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Speaker 2: you know it's not her voice. They'd like to have parties,
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Speaker 2: people over and it was apparently, he said, a woman
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Speaker 2: who was at that party made the call. I believe
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Speaker 2: he said right outside of that home, but that it
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Speaker 2: wasn't Monique and it had nothing to do with them.
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Speaker 2: That they had a great marriage. So saying that that
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Speaker 2: had nothing to do with them.
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Speaker 5: You know. Another issue Tom Smith joining me former NYPD,
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Speaker 5: what would have been the motivation at two o'clock in
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Speaker 5: the morning at best. To bam on a door just
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Speaker 5: to shoot somebody that's unconnected to you, that.
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Speaker 1: Seems far fetched to me. This seems like it was
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Speaker 1: more targeted. What would you be looking for at the
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Speaker 1: same tom.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, well, we know there's no fourth entry, so that
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Speaker 15: is concerning. So they either let themselves in because they
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Speaker 15: knew the past code because they've been at that residence
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Speaker 15: before at the numerous party that this couple had and
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Speaker 15: it's somebody they know, or they knocked on the door
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Speaker 15: and one of them answered it and they were forced
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Speaker 15: back into their bedroom. So one of those two things happened.
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Speaker 15: The entry of just getting in is still unknown, and
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Speaker 15: that's what you know part of this investigation is going
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Speaker 15: to be. Another telling sign is the children not being harmed,
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Speaker 15: and actually the dog who was in the residence not
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Speaker 15: being harmed as well. So I agree with you. This
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Speaker 15: was in my mind, an absolute targeted hit of one
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Speaker 15: of these two individuals.
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Speaker 4: This was a.
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Speaker 3: Targeted domestic violence attack the resulted in the deaths that
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Speaker 3: two people that have wreckably changed.
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Speaker 4: The lives of their children.
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Speaker 5: Anyways, colleagues and brands, what could be the motive.
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Speaker 9: Investigators get all available surveillance video from the Tebbi neighborhood,
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Speaker 9: focusing on the time between two am and five AM,
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Speaker 9: and release video of one person walked in the alley
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Speaker 9: behind the Teppy home. Police believe that person is Michael McKee.
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Speaker 9: One car with an Illinois license plate arrives in the
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Speaker 9: neighborhood shortly before the Teppe murders take place and leaves
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Speaker 9: shortly thereafter. The license plate on the vehicle is registered
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Speaker 9: to Michael McKee, a vascular surgeon in Chicago. McKee is
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Speaker 9: also Monique Teppe's ex husband.
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Speaker 5: Well, it wouldn't be the first time that a vehicle
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Speaker 5: has been the giveaway showed out to Dave mc Crime
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Speaker 5: Stories investigative reporter. I noticed that in some of the details,
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Speaker 5: the fine print and what we have learned, police are
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Speaker 5: not saying what evidence was found in the vehicle, but
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Speaker 5: they are stating that they have evidence that he McKee,
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Speaker 5: the starter marriage husband, was in the vehicle in the
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Speaker 5: hours preceding the murders.
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Speaker 9: What do you think it is They have evidence that
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Speaker 9: Michael McKee was in control of his vehicle during the
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Speaker 9: time before the murders took place and in the time
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Speaker 9: immediately following, so you've got him tied directly to the vehicle.
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Speaker 9: We do not know exactly what evidence that might be,
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Speaker 9: but we don't have a nine milimeter gun. We got shellcasings,
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Speaker 9: so maybe that's what they found in the car, but
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Speaker 9: they did find enough evidence to prove that he was
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Speaker 9: in control and the only person in control of that
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Speaker 9: vehicle in the minutes before and after the murders took place.
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Speaker 7: Detectives file warrants charging Michael D. McKee thirty nine, with
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Speaker 7: two costs of murder and the deaths of Spencer and
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Speaker 7: Monique Teppee. Mister McKee was arrested in Rockford, Illinois without incident.
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Speaker 7: He's currently incarcerated in the Winnipego County Jail in awaiting
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Speaker 7: extradition to Columbus.
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Speaker 1: We believe at this.
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Speaker 7: Point we have the person responsible for the murders of
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Speaker 7: Monique and Spencer Teppee in custody, and that person is
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Speaker 7: Michael McKee.
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Speaker 5: Dave mac Is it true that vascular sergeant doctor mca
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Speaker 5: he was arrested at Chick fil A?
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Speaker 9: He was Nancy. The guy is just acting like there's
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Speaker 9: nothing going on, just a regular day at the races,
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Speaker 9: and he pops into Chick fil A to get his
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Speaker 9: favorite lunch neck. That's where he was actually arrested, and
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Speaker 9: the ATF was there on site.
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Speaker 1: Nancy, Why did the ATF arrest him?
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Speaker 9: It came down to a lie. Doctor Michael McKee lied
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Speaker 9: on a federal form when he purchased a handgun in Nevada.
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Speaker 9: He provided a false residency form of information and that
20:32
Speaker 9: immediately triggered the federal jurisdiction for firearm violations alongside the
20:37
Speaker 9: state murder chargers. So the ATF was brought in because
20:41
Speaker 9: of the lie about where he was living when he
20:44
Speaker 9: filed for that gun.
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Speaker 7: Crime stores with Nancy Grace, multiple weapons were taken from
21:00
Speaker 7: the property of McKee, and there is a preliminary link
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Speaker 7: from our Niven to one of the weapons that ties
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Speaker 7: it to the homicide.
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Speaker 2: Did you find any other evidence in his forman Lincoln Park?
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Speaker 7: What I can tell you is that we did search
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Speaker 7: his property and we have evidence, but I can't speak
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Speaker 7: to any specific evidence.
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Speaker 1: They've got evidence.
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Speaker 5: They were observed lugging box after box after box out
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Speaker 5: of vascular surgeon doctor McKee's penthouse apartment there at Lincoln Park,
21:34
Speaker 5: straight out to a special guest joining US tonight. CoA
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Speaker 5: Lorn Moore, thank you for being with us. Former Army
21:40
Speaker 5: sniper sharpshooter. I want to talk to you about the weapons.
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Speaker 5: You just heard Columbus Police Chief Elaine Bryant state that
21:48
Speaker 5: there is a preliminary match from evidence found in the home.
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Speaker 1: I ate the gun.
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Speaker 5: I don't know where they found it in the home,
21:57
Speaker 5: in the car, doesn't matter for your purposes. But they've
21:59
Speaker 5: got a to the bullets fired at the scene where
22:03
Speaker 5: they lodged in the body. Did they ricochet off the wall,
22:05
Speaker 5: Were they stuck in the wall, Were they stuck in
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Speaker 5: the matches? Were they stuck in the floor, doesn't matter.
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Speaker 5: They're saying they've got a match. Now, before I get
22:15
Speaker 5: to you about how that match is deduced, I want
22:19
Speaker 5: to talk to you about how difficult would it be
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Speaker 5: for the killer to engrave or write on the bullets.
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Speaker 1: How would you write something on the bullet?
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Speaker 16: Well, Nancy, you could take a dremal tool and then
22:36
Speaker 16: you take the casing of the bullet like I have
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Speaker 16: right here, and you could basically just engrave whatever you
22:41
Speaker 16: want on that casing. But I think you would have
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Speaker 16: to have a special kind of hatred to go to
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Speaker 16: the lengths of engraving something on that agree.
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Speaker 5: Now let me ask you this CoA. What if we
22:54
Speaker 5: learn the defendant, the surgeon, doctor McKee, created his own ammunition. Yes,
23:02
Speaker 5: people actually do that. That would leave a trail a
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Speaker 5: mile wide. If you created your own bullets, How do
23:10
Speaker 5: you do that?
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Speaker 16: So you need a special machine that they used to
23:15
Speaker 16: create a bullet like this, and then you take all
23:17
Speaker 16: the components. You take the primer on the back, the
23:21
Speaker 16: casing obviously, the gunpowder inside, and then the bullet and
23:24
Speaker 16: you press it all together. This is common practice with
23:30
Speaker 16: precision shooters, people that do it for sport, pretty uncommon
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Speaker 16: just for your average guy.
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Speaker 5: Dan Murphy joining us from our NYPD Detective sergeant, co
23:40
Speaker 5: star of gold Shields podcast and author. Dan he had
23:45
Speaker 5: to drive three hundred and twenty five miles if he
23:49
Speaker 5: came from his home to get to her place that
23:52
Speaker 5: she shared with her husband and children.
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Speaker 1: There's no way he didn't leave a trail.
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Speaker 18: Absolutely, his cell phone is going to be hanging off
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Speaker 18: cell sites all along that route, and if you look
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Speaker 18: at it on a map, you can trace his route.
24:05
Speaker 18: He's also probably having to stop for gas, bathroom breaks,
24:08
Speaker 18: whatever it is along the way, so he left a footprint.
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Speaker 18: He made purchases, he got food, he did something along
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Speaker 18: that way. I don't know if there's any toll roads there,
24:19
Speaker 18: but it's almost impossible to drive three hundred and something
24:21
Speaker 18: miles across America without leaving a digital footprint and probably
24:26
Speaker 18: a CCTV coverage from a variety of different places.
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Speaker 5: Now we learn about a silenc sir, come on, I
24:34
Speaker 5: can't wait for the defense attorney bring it on to
24:37
Speaker 5: tell me this was not premeditated. To Susan Hendricks joining
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Speaker 5: US investigative reporter, journalist and author of a bestseller, Down
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Speaker 5: the Heel My Descent into the Double Murder and Delphi, Susan,
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Speaker 5: many people didn't know about the allegation a suppressor was used,
24:54
Speaker 5: which requires a lot of a forethought. Right, you've got
24:58
Speaker 5: to match it to your gun. You got to set
24:59
Speaker 5: it up up, you've got to get it. Who needs
25:02
Speaker 5: a suppressor? Who needs a silencer? We learned about it
25:05
Speaker 5: in this indictment. Tell me about the indictment.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nancy, And that's an excellent point. He did plan
25:13
Speaker 2: it out, according to this indictment, charged with four counts
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Speaker 2: of aggravated murder and three counts of the aggravated murder
25:20
Speaker 2: include exactly that having a silencer, and the fourth one
25:25
Speaker 2: includes just brandis Shane or showing the firearm. It appears
25:29
Speaker 2: he planned more of what to do rather than the
25:31
Speaker 2: aftermath of it.
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Speaker 9: Monique Teppe married vascular surgeon Michael McKee in August twenty fifteen,
25:37
Speaker 9: but separated as a couple after just seven months. The
25:40
Speaker 9: couple had no children. Monique stated the reason for the
25:42
Speaker 9: divorce was they were incompatible. After living separate and apart
25:46
Speaker 9: for a year. Divorce proceedings began in May twenty seventeen
25:49
Speaker 9: and the divorce was final the next month.
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Speaker 5: Oh my stars, they blinked their eyes and the marriage
25:55
Speaker 5: was over and they were living separately during it, Doctor
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Speaker 5: Bethany Marshall, that happened, I think ten years ago. It
26:04
Speaker 5: was ten years ago. Monique has moved on. She's married
26:09
Speaker 5: this dentist. They're totally happy.
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Speaker 1: They have two babies.
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Speaker 5: What and now, out of the blue, can I tell
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Speaker 5: you something I found out, doctor Bethany, Brace yourself. So
26:22
Speaker 5: in the divorce, McKee claimed her engagement ring and wedding
26:29
Speaker 5: ring were his and she had to pay him back
26:32
Speaker 5: for that. And then there was a miscellaneous balance of
26:36
Speaker 5: twelve hundred dollars, and he said, if you don't pay
26:40
Speaker 5: me back that twelve hundred dollars by X date, you're
26:43
Speaker 5: getting charged twenty three percent interest.
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Speaker 1: I think I know why she left him.
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Speaker 6: Well, that gives us insight into the marriage. I mean, yeah,
26:54
Speaker 6: think about it. The first seven months of a marriage
26:57
Speaker 6: or the time of heightened idealization where you see nothing
27:01
Speaker 6: wrong with the other person. They are on a pedestal.
27:05
Speaker 6: So if a marriage breaks off that quickly, something is
27:08
Speaker 6: really really wrong. And given Monique's history with the current marriage,
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Speaker 6: it's not Monique.
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Speaker 5: At this time, we know the state is building its
27:19
Speaker 5: case against vascular surgeon doctor McKee. Just think about this guy.
27:24
Speaker 5: He excelled in everything he did. That's his mug shot.
27:28
Speaker 5: He excelled at everything. He played football on a very
27:33
Speaker 5: high level in college. He was dazelous honor student in
27:39
Speaker 5: undergrad He was a star student in medical school.
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Speaker 1: He went on to become.
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Speaker 5: A vascular surgeon, certified to practice in multiple jurisdictions. Just
27:51
Speaker 5: before the two Monique and her husband are shot dead,
27:56
Speaker 5: he gets sacked with a malpractice suit, a pretty serious one,
28:00
Speaker 5: and another claim that one patient actually lost his because
28:04
Speaker 5: of McKee very serious complaints, and then he ghosts everybody.
28:08
Speaker 5: He leaves that jurisdiction and disappears to where even a
28:12
Speaker 5: PI can't find him, and just starts all over again
28:16
Speaker 5: in another jurisdiction.
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Speaker 1: Could he move that surreptitiously?
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Speaker 5: Which leads me to how long had he been surreptitiously
28:26
Speaker 5: stalking Monique?
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Speaker 1: There? She is Monique and the.
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Speaker 5: First starter husband Michael McKee, the vascular surgeont it was
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Speaker 5: just for seven months.
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Speaker 1: It was nearly ten years ago.
28:38
Speaker 5: And he brewed and bubbled and simmered and stewed for
28:41
Speaker 5: nearly ten years till he makes an over three hundred
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Speaker 5: mile trek to shoot.
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Speaker 1: Her dead in bed with her husband, her children in
28:50
Speaker 1: the room next door. This is what we've learned. Listen.
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Speaker 19: She was terrified because he had threatened her life on
28:58
Speaker 19: multiple occasions when they were married. She wasn't shy about
29:02
Speaker 19: talking to people about traumatic experiences that she had with
29:07
Speaker 19: her ex, and just how emotionally abusive he was to her.
29:13
Speaker 19: If any of us had known that these threats were
29:16
Speaker 19: actually grounded impossibility, we all would have acted differently. Myself
29:23
Speaker 19: and many others were well aware of kind of the
29:27
Speaker 19: negative impact that he had on her. She was willing
29:30
Speaker 19: to do anything to get out of there.
29:32
Speaker 5: From our friends at NBC and GMA, that is the
29:35
Speaker 5: brother in law Ron. This was speaking out doctor Michael
29:39
Speaker 5: McKee turned murder defendant ex girlfriend Spakes.
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Speaker 1: Let's listen.
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Speaker 12: He did tell me a little bit about his divorce
29:48
Speaker 12: at the time, So again I want to preface this
29:50
Speaker 12: with this is his side of the story and what
29:52
Speaker 12: he spoke to me. This is not truth. This is
29:54
Speaker 12: obviously very biased, but what he told me was that
29:57
Speaker 12: one that he came home from residency and that week
30:00
Speaker 12: had vanished, like she took everything, She left the house
30:03
Speaker 12: completely empty and also took their dogs. He was just
30:06
Speaker 12: left very stunned because he didn't see this coming and
30:09
Speaker 12: he was like completely devastated.
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Speaker 5: This is a woman who I believe to be a
30:14
Speaker 5: medical doctor that says she is mckey's ex girlfriend. She
30:18
Speaker 5: seems reliable and credible and in the moment, you're going
30:21
Speaker 5: to see photos of her with McKey and her family.
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Speaker 12: He didn't really talk about his parents. He did tell
30:27
Speaker 12: me he was adopted by an older couple and he
30:30
Speaker 12: just like they were good parents, but he just never
30:33
Speaker 12: talked about them. He never talked to them. I would
30:36
Speaker 12: call my mom like every day.
30:36
Speaker 9: We would.
30:37
Speaker 12: We have a great relationship, but he was just much
30:39
Speaker 12: more reserved. He never really when I asked him more,
30:41
Speaker 12: he just didn't really want to talk about it. So
30:42
Speaker 12: I kind of left it at that. This is him,
30:45
Speaker 12: This is a celebrating New Year's with a bunch of
30:47
Speaker 12: my friends and family, and this is me right here,
30:49
Speaker 12: and that's him, which is crazy.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so she's lying.
30:54
Speaker 5: She's gone to great links to photoshop pictures which looked
30:57
Speaker 5: very real to me.
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Speaker 12: Listen, he also has been to my family home. That's
31:02
Speaker 12: him right there. This is me and my family members.
31:07
Speaker 12: But it's honestly shocking, and I'm grateful that the word
31:10
Speaker 12: protected me from moving forward in that relationship.
31:13
Speaker 5: The ex girlfriend has now deleted her TikTok. She was
31:17
Speaker 5: at TikTok at s Rummy.
31:21
Speaker 13: In a dating profile on Bumble, McKee refers to himself
31:24
Speaker 13: as Mike, claims to be thirty two, and in the
31:26
Speaker 13: about me section writes lucky to have work I find
31:29
Speaker 13: meaningful and increased free time for new things. Currently trying
31:33
Speaker 13: hot yoga. Way less flexible than I recall planning trip
31:37
Speaker 13: by itineraries to finally make use of global entry and
31:40
Speaker 13: hopped on an electric motorcycle. Haven't died yet. He also
31:43
Speaker 13: says he wants children someday now.
31:46
Speaker 5: In the dating profile, he is beaming and the photographs
31:51
Speaker 5: showing off his tan, suggesting a real outdoorsman wearing a
31:58
Speaker 5: lilac sweat over a white button down posing for some
32:04
Speaker 5: reason with a kid's lunchbox which shows the name Mike
32:09
Speaker 5: and a dinosaur. I guess that's because he's Michael and
32:12
Speaker 5: asks people to call him Mike. But he talks about
32:15
Speaker 5: how he wants children. But he's alone. He's running from
32:20
Speaker 5: multiple lawsuits, including one guy who had to have his amputated,
32:24
Speaker 5: another guy claiming he had a part of a cather
32:28
Speaker 5: stuck in his less shard stuck in his leg out
32:32
Speaker 5: after surgery. So he's alone, running from lawsuits, running from
32:38
Speaker 5: process servers, and he watches this over and over look.
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Speaker 2: From day one, I knew you were something special. I
32:47
Speaker 2: had quite a journey to get to.
32:48
Speaker 20: You, countless bad bumble, dates, wrong relationships, and waterfalls of tears,
32:55
Speaker 20: But it was worth every cringing second because it led
32:59
Speaker 20: me to you.
33:01
Speaker 11: Throughout all of this, I knew that God was guiding
33:04
Speaker 11: me to my person and that when I met him,
33:09
Speaker 11: it would be the most magical thing ever.
33:12
Speaker 21: And boy, is that an understatement.
33:16
Speaker 11: I finally found my lobster, and it honestly couldn't be
33:20
Speaker 11: a person with.
33:21
Speaker 2: A more beautiful heart. I will love you forever, and
33:24
Speaker 2: I'm so lucky to be missus.
33:26
Speaker 22: Teppy, dear Momo. I feel so lucky to be up
33:29
Speaker 22: here with you today. You've grown to become my best friend,
33:32
Speaker 22: and together we're surrounded by friends and family who are
33:36
Speaker 22: fortunate to be able to say the same. We're so lucky.
33:40
Speaker 22: Our support system is immense, and you embracing Larry, my
33:45
Speaker 22: crazy group of friends, and my loud family like you
33:48
Speaker 22: have means the world. I vow to support you, to
33:52
Speaker 22: believe in you, and to encourage you. I vow to
33:55
Speaker 22: provide for you. I vow to never stop loving you,
33:59
Speaker 22: and I always keep working on us. And lastly, I
34:03
Speaker 22: vowed to do my best to always keep making you
34:06
Speaker 22: laugh because your smile is my favorite thing. I love you.
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Speaker 1: How many times?
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Speaker 5: Daryl Cohen will his digital footprint show me you're the
34:16
Speaker 5: veteran trial lawyer if he looked at that even once
34:22
Speaker 5: I get to play it in front of the jury.
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Speaker 3: That's all we need, Nancy, That's all a prosecutor needs.
34:28
Speaker 3: And what are we going to see? A motive or murder,
34:32
Speaker 3: a motive to destroy his ex wife, to destroy her
34:37
Speaker 3: husband and at the same time destroying their kids.
34:46
Speaker 5: Let's go straight in that courtroom where the ex husband
34:50
Speaker 5: of seven months, ten years ago Waltz is into court.
34:55
Speaker 1: Let's take a look.
35:13
Speaker 5: Ryely keys that from our friends at W B N
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Speaker 5: S ten. I'm about to go to Franz Borghart, veteran
35:25
Speaker 5: criminal defense attorney, trying to figure out how much money
35:29
Speaker 5: I and the rest of the taxpayers are spending on
35:32
Speaker 5: this guy that now has to be extradited, probably with
35:37
Speaker 5: how many, how big of a fleet of security?
35:40
Speaker 1: What are they going to do? Give first class service?
35:42
Speaker 5: Is he going to get a warm roll and a
35:45
Speaker 5: drink with that? Let's watch that one more.
35:47
Speaker 1: Time, all the table again from W B and S ten.
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Speaker 1: Did you see that warhearts?
36:15
Speaker 5: Did you see that he's perfectly saying he knows exactly
36:19
Speaker 5: what's happening, and not a flicker of emotion on his face,
36:23
Speaker 5: not one ounce, not one drop, one scintilla of remorse.
36:28
Speaker 9: Pesky constitution Nancy.
36:30
Speaker 5: He's presumed innocent.
36:31
Speaker 18: I guess he should just roll in and say you
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Speaker 18: got me. Let me save you a bunch of time.
36:37
Speaker 1: Okay, did I ask you that? That's not That's what we.
36:40
Speaker 5: Call and responsive to the question, not one ounce of remorse.
36:49
Speaker 1: He has simmered for ten years.
36:53
Speaker 5: Then he goes online and he sees his wife's wedding video.
36:58
Speaker 1: And he can't stand it. Let's go back into court
37:02
Speaker 1: and take another look at it.
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Speaker 23: Ed speak with yes, you're what's your position, but yes,
37:08
Speaker 23: at this time your mother let me have to mister McKee.
37:12
Speaker 23: I will assert his right to counsel. I will assert
37:16
Speaker 23: his right to remain silent. And mister McKee believes that
37:20
Speaker 23: the most expeditious manner in which you may depend himself
37:24
Speaker 23: against the charges pending in Ohio and to lead, if
37:28
Speaker 23: not empty, would be to wait his right to an extradition.
37:31
Speaker 10: Paris and to have a governed warrant, and.
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Speaker 23: To agree to his immediate transportation to Ohio. Understood, Thank you.
37:49
Speaker 9: Much, Thanks very.
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Speaker 1: Not from w s y X, ABC six. Also in
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Speaker 1: the courtroom.
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Speaker 5: In the meantime, during our last live chat during the
38:15
Speaker 5: airing of our program, a viewer noticed this do not
38:20
Speaker 5: discount any evidence as being insignificant.
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Speaker 1: Let's see. Okay, watch him walk, he pulls to the right.
38:27
Speaker 5: He pulls to the right one more time in the courtroom,
38:30
Speaker 5: the courtroom video. He pulls to the right when he
38:33
Speaker 5: walks to the right, to the right, to the right.
38:37
Speaker 5: There he goes and stands, goes to the right. Now
38:42
Speaker 5: that's from wbnstn TV our friends.
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Speaker 1: There.
38:45
Speaker 5: Now, let's look at the video. Well, to the right,
38:49
Speaker 5: to the right, he pulls to the right on every step.
38:52
Speaker 5: Now we've just gotten in video of doctor Michael McKee's
38:58
Speaker 5: book him.
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Speaker 1: There he goes, there, he goes.
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Speaker 24: See it.
39:02
Speaker 5: Let's see that again. That was very That may be
39:05
Speaker 5: the I don't know what causes that. He does not
39:11
Speaker 5: have any football injury. He played varsity football at an
39:15
Speaker 5: elite level, I think in college.
39:19
Speaker 1: There he is in his bookend this right here. You know,
39:25
Speaker 1: he just looks like any other dude walking.
39:27
Speaker 5: Around in his flip flops at the pharmacy of the cony.
39:30
Speaker 25: You know, just.
39:32
Speaker 5: But to think that he could have unloaded a full
39:39
Speaker 5: mag on Monique IRV Brandt joining me. Former Senior Inspector
39:46
Speaker 5: US Marshall Service International Investigations Branch. IRV Brandt, I want
39:51
Speaker 5: to talk to you about extradition. You have traveled all
39:56
Speaker 5: over the world tracking people down. How hard do you
40:02
Speaker 5: think it was to track this guy down? He might
40:06
Speaker 5: as well have run home and hidden under his mother's
40:08
Speaker 5: bed for Pete's sake, Nancy.
40:10
Speaker 26: From what it appears being in the ex husband, I
40:15
Speaker 26: don't think it took the authorities much time to identify
40:19
Speaker 26: him then track him, because it doesn't appear that he
40:24
Speaker 26: went into hiding, so they arrested him relatively quickly.
40:29
Speaker 5: You know, IRV Brant, I don't think nearly two weeks
40:32
Speaker 5: is quote relatively quickly. Maybe his plan was to blend
40:38
Speaker 5: in and act like nothing happened, but he led law
40:44
Speaker 5: enforcement on a wild.
40:45
Speaker 1: Goose chase for nearly two weeks.
40:48
Speaker 5: He covered his tracks, he parked away from the crime scene,
40:53
Speaker 5: he hid his face, He did elut police for nearly
40:58
Speaker 5: two weeks.
41:04
Speaker 1: Does nobody watch True crime?
41:10
Speaker 5: Reportedly, the monster surgeon blurts out an alibi before he
41:16
Speaker 5: immediately invokes his right to the Fifth Amendment, but it's
41:19
Speaker 5: too late.
41:20
Speaker 1: He's busted in a.
41:22
Speaker 5: Lie, joining US an all star panel, but first rate
41:25
Speaker 5: out to crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: Investigative reporter Dave Matc What happened, Nancy.
41:30
Speaker 9: It seems as though before his arrest, police actually got
41:34
Speaker 9: up with doctor McKee and asks, hey, where were you
41:37
Speaker 9: on this particular night on December thirtieth, not an uncommon
41:42
Speaker 9: thing to do with an ex spouse. And his story, Nancy,
41:47
Speaker 9: is that he had booked a room at his hospital
41:50
Speaker 9: where he's a surgeon, OSF Saint Anthony Medical Center in Rockford, Illinois,
41:54
Speaker 9: and that that's where he was the entire night. Investigators
41:58
Speaker 9: are able to bust that wide open.
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Speaker 5: Joining me now, the investigative reporter for The Mirror and
42:07
Speaker 5: the Irish Star, Yelena Mandenburg rot Row. Oh what a
42:14
Speaker 5: tangled web we weave when first we practiced to deceive busted?
42:20
Speaker 5: What happened, Yolina?
42:21
Speaker 27: Well, he left his phone at the hospital and he
42:23
Speaker 27: booked a sleep room at the hospital where he's a surgeon,
42:27
Speaker 27: which would be a normal, believable thing many many doctors do.
42:32
Speaker 27: He left his phone, which we assume allegedly if he
42:36
Speaker 27: went out there was so it doesn't ping off the
42:38
Speaker 27: cell phone dours and so everything looks legit. However, all
42:42
Speaker 27: investigators had to do was probably check the video feed
42:45
Speaker 27: and the surveillance videos from the hospital where he works.
42:49
Speaker 27: It's really easy to overcome that alibi, even though it
42:53
Speaker 27: seems very legitimate for a doctor like him.
42:55
Speaker 5: Hey, Dave Matt, I understand that you have uncovered a
42:59
Speaker 5: smation as to how long that cell phone stayed in
43:03
Speaker 5: the hospital cot.
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Speaker 9: We know, Nancy, in this particular case, police were able
43:08
Speaker 9: to find out that doctor McKee's cell phone was left
43:12
Speaker 9: in a cot at the hospital for fourteen hours.
43:16
Speaker 1: Now, how did this happen?
43:18
Speaker 5: Because I know he immediately blanketed himself in the Fifth Amendment,
43:23
Speaker 5: which is of course the right to remain silent. So
43:26
Speaker 5: how is it that McKee said a word yet also
43:31
Speaker 5: evoked his Fifth Amendment privilege?
43:35
Speaker 9: Any questions that were asked of McKee happened before they
43:39
Speaker 9: put the cuffs on him, before he's getting his chicken sandwich.
43:42
Speaker 9: So think about it, Nancy. As police began an investigation,
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Speaker 9: the first call is, hey, where were you? You know
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Speaker 9: your ex wife is dead and we need to know
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Speaker 9: where were you during this time. We know you didn't
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Speaker 9: do it, but you know, we got to have it.
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Speaker 9: And so that's where he immediately blurted, apparently, and that's
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Speaker 9: where it starts. Nancy, he already locked himself in and
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Speaker 9: again his phone being left in a cod for fourteen
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Speaker 9: hours kind of fits into the rest of the premeditation
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Speaker 9: of this case and tonight.
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Speaker 5: A careful reading of this affidavit reveals that Monique and
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Speaker 5: Spencer's neighbors dor cam or surveillance video catch the so
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Speaker 5: called monster surgeon ex husband lurking around their home while
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Speaker 5: they're out of town in Indianapolis had a big ten championship.
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Speaker 1: Game number one. How did he know they were gone?
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Speaker 5: Had it been posted online? We know Monique had no
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Speaker 5: social media presence. Was she afraid he was stalking her?
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Speaker 1: I guess?
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Speaker 18: So?
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Speaker 1: How did he know that? Had he hacked into their emails?
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Speaker 5: That said, the neighbor's surveillance video catches him, Michael McKee,
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Speaker 5: the vascular surgeon once married to Manique, like ten years ago,
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Speaker 5: stalking their home. I believe he gets in their home
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Speaker 5: because that video shows him entering the.
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Speaker 1: Quote kurtiledge, what is curtilage.
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Speaker 5: Let's take a look at the fence that encloses the
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Speaker 5: Teppee backyard their back area. You can see that their
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Speaker 5: backyard is totally enclosed.
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Speaker 1: By a fence.
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Speaker 5: And if you look at this wedding photo that had
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Speaker 5: been posted online, not by Monique, and I'm sure McKee
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Speaker 5: looked at it many many times. You can see how
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Speaker 5: tall the fence is. This area would be the curtilage.
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Speaker 5: This is behind the tepee home straight out to Elena
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Speaker 5: Mandenburgh joining us, what did you learn from reading this affidavit?
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Speaker 5: What did you learn appeared on the neighbor's surveillance video?
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Speaker 27: Well, a number of new things with the Athada. It's explosive.
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Speaker 27: And since we're already talking about the alleged stalking that
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Speaker 27: the neighbors caught on the camera, it was also the
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Speaker 27: same day that they were at that big ten game
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Speaker 27: and Monique had gone home early. Her friends noticed she
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Speaker 27: went home early in the second half because she was
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Speaker 27: upset about something regarding her ex husband. Either she or
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Speaker 27: Spencer went into detail with their friends, but they did
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Speaker 27: let their friends know. So did she get a note
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Speaker 27: from the neighbors text, did she spot him on a camera,
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Speaker 27: or did he send her a message while he was
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Speaker 27: there to possibly psychologically mess with her. So we don't
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Speaker 27: actually know how she found out, but we know she
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Speaker 27: was upset about something that day enough to go home
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Speaker 27: from a whole trip from a whole game with her
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Speaker 27: friends to go home and deal with it. We actually
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Speaker 27: also don't know if she let her husband know, if
47:03
Speaker 27: she realized that McKee was stalking her. We don't know
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Speaker 27: if she let her husband Spencer know. She could have
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Speaker 27: felt like she is managing this stalker could have been
47:13
Speaker 27: something that's happening frequently enough. Because if we know that
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Speaker 27: he went inside her home, the neighbors caught her on video,
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Speaker 27: there's no police report. She never went to the police
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Speaker 27: even if she did know that he was getting into
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Speaker 27: her home. And there is one line, one line from
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Speaker 27: the affidavit that especially stuck out to me that wasn't
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Speaker 27: just illegal, but illegal and creepy. It's alleged, if true,
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Speaker 27: she had told her friends that he had threatened her,
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Speaker 27: you know, not just during their marriage and after their marriage,
47:43
Speaker 27: but at least once he said that he would find
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Speaker 27: her by the house right next to her and that
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Speaker 27: she will always be his wife.
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Speaker 21: McKee has spotted multiple times driving his silver SUV near
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Speaker 21: Monique in Spencer's home before the murders. Vehicle has unique
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Speaker 21: features such as a sticker on a window and stolen
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Speaker 21: Ohio license plate. The registration for the suv is linked
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Speaker 21: to past addresses. McKee previously lived in the hospital where
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Speaker 21: he worked.
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Speaker 5: Doctor mcke's suv is caught circling and circling Monique's home,
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Speaker 5: not just the night of the murders, but.
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Speaker 1: Before that, many many times.
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Speaker 5: And then, to make matters worse, his suv is seized
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Speaker 5: in the hospital parking lot while the good doctor is
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Speaker 5: at work, Like, that's not embarrassing. He had scraped off
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Speaker 5: a very identifiable sticker in between the time and the
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Speaker 5: murders and the time his car, his vehicle was seized.
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Speaker 5: I understand his vehicle had a stolen Ohio license as
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Speaker 5: well as displaying at the same time an Arizona license.
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Speaker 1: Like that's not going to get the attention of the police.
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Speaker 5: Dave mac tell me about mckey's vehicle.
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Speaker 9: You know, I don't think people realize that when you
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Speaker 9: scrape something off, you leave residue behind. And it's not
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Speaker 9: just that sticker that he scraped off that was so obvious, Nancy,
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Speaker 9: it's the cumulative effect of all of the things associated
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Speaker 9: with that suv that is directly tied to McKee. You've
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Speaker 9: got the stolen Ohio license plate, You've got the Arizona
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Speaker 9: tempt tag both tied to McKee or former employers. And
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Speaker 9: then that sticker. You've got this sticker on the vehicle
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Speaker 9: that is tracked on video. They can see it. It's
49:35
Speaker 9: right there. They know the location of the sticker, they know.
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Speaker 10: What it is.
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Speaker 9: And then when they find his car in the parking
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Speaker 9: lot in Rockford, Illinois where he works, Oh wait a minute,
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Speaker 9: it's not there anymore, but we see the scrape marks
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Speaker 9: where it was taken off in a hurry.
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Speaker 5: Crime stores with Nancy Gray deep deep in court filings,
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Speaker 5: we learn that Monique Tepi was shot multiple times, not
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Speaker 5: just Spencer, Monique as well her children in the next room.
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Speaker 1: Listen.
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Speaker 9: The autopsy report indicates Monique we shot nine times, Spencer seven.
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Speaker 9: Monique was shot in the right hand, right forearm, right
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Speaker 9: side of her torso, one shot to the right cheek,
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Speaker 9: and three gunshot wounds to the right chest. Spencer was
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Speaker 9: shot in his left ear, left side of the neck,
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Speaker 9: left upper chest, left lower chest, left hand, left upper back,
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Speaker 9: and the right arm near the elbow. The injuries to
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Speaker 9: Spencer's hand and right arm also could indicate he was
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Speaker 9: trying to defend himself or Monique.
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Speaker 5: Elena Mandenberg, joining US investigative reporter for The Mirror, The
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Speaker 5: Irish Star, The Express. Elena, what do we know and
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Speaker 5: we're learning this from the autopsy. It's called the coroner
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Speaker 5: report there and it's very disturbing. From the Franklin count
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Speaker 5: Forensic Science Center. What have we learned to not, Elena.
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Speaker 27: Well I said before Monique Tepe shot nine times, while
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Speaker 27: Spencer Tepe was shot seven times, sixteen bullets between them.
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Speaker 27: The Franklin County Office of the Corner determined that Monique
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Speaker 27: Teppe was shot once in the face, three times in
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Speaker 27: the chest, twice in the upper left arm, and once
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Speaker 27: on the right side of her tour so, once in
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Speaker 27: her right forearm, and once in the hand. Gunshot wounds
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Speaker 27: of head, trunk and extremities with visceral, skeletal and soft
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Speaker 27: tissue injuries, says the report. In the autopsy, they were
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Speaker 27: able to recover two bullet fragments left in the humorous
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Speaker 27: fracture site, which means soft organ damage. It hit the lungs,
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Speaker 27: it hit the liver, skeletal damage when the bones broke
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Speaker 27: when the bullets hit them. Spencer tepping Is autopsy says
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Speaker 27: he suffered seven gunshot wounds also to the head, neck, trunk,
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Speaker 27: and extremities with viscerals, keletal, and soft tissue injuries. Once
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Speaker 27: in the head, once in the neck, three times in
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Speaker 27: the tour so twice in the upper extremities, and a
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Speaker 27: bullet was also recovered from Spencer Tepe's body.
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Speaker 1: Dave Matt, Crimes Story's investigative reporter.
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Speaker 5: Many people online want to know were their holes in
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Speaker 5: the wall. My deduction is unlikely. There were sixteen bullets
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Speaker 5: fired right and they all made contact with the victims.
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Speaker 5: I also think, although we don't know this yet, that
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Speaker 5: he fired at close range.
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Speaker 1: Think about it.
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Speaker 5: There's the inside of the bedroom, so I guarantee you
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Speaker 5: he walked up to their bed, held out the gun
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Speaker 5: like he's, you know, the antagonist in a movie, and
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Speaker 5: unloaded on sleeping people, so they.
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Speaker 1: Are close range.
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Speaker 5: I don't know that they're going to be contact wounds,
52:59
Speaker 5: but I don't think he could have missed him. It's
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Speaker 5: just like shooting a fish.
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Speaker 1: In a barrel. For Pete's saying, Dave.
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Speaker 9: Mac Nancy, I think you're absolutely right, there's not going
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Speaker 9: to be any shots on the wall or the ceiling.
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Speaker 9: I think every you got nine shots going into Monique.
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Speaker 9: You've got seven going into Spencer. That's sixteen total, and
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Speaker 9: they're gonna be pointed down.
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Speaker 14: Now.
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Speaker 9: On the autopsy report, there is an indication of no stipling,
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Speaker 9: So you're talking about an intermediate range. But you know,
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Speaker 9: one thing, I think in December sixth, when he was
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Speaker 9: at the home, remember they were at the ballgame.
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Speaker 1: I think he went in there and he planned it
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Speaker 1: all out.
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Speaker 9: He walked around, he knew exactly where he was going
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Speaker 9: to stand, he knew exactly where the bed was, he
53:42
Speaker 9: knew where they were going to be, and he had
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Speaker 9: a plan allegedly to stand there and just standing over
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Speaker 9: the top of him, shot him And look at the injuries.
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Speaker 9: Right side on Spencer, left side on Monique. That's how
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Speaker 9: we sleep. I mean, the only I think, the only
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Speaker 9: thing that really we can look at this is that
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Speaker 9: McKee knew exactly what he was going to do, exactly
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Speaker 9: where he was going to do it, and then he
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Speaker 9: did it allegedly.
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Speaker 5: Joining us tonight on behalf of Monique, Arianna Turner, a
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Speaker 5: dear friend of Monique's.
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Speaker 1: Arianna, thank you for being with us, Thank you for
54:21
Speaker 1: having me.
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Speaker 25: I'm blessed to be here.
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Speaker 1: You know what.
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Speaker 5: I can see why you and Monique were friends because
54:32
Speaker 5: everything I've seen of her, everything that's been said about her,
54:36
Speaker 5: she had this just amazing I don't know the right word,
54:41
Speaker 5: Aurrah demeanor. Tell me about her, Arianna, she was just.
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Speaker 24: Like indescribable, you know, like you don't really meet people
54:51
Speaker 24: who are just genuine you know, and just genuinely want
54:54
Speaker 24: to help other people and just genuinely care about like
54:58
Speaker 24: just the people around them were just people in general,
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Speaker 24: and like Monique was somebody who like if she cared
55:03
Speaker 24: about you, she was coming to check on you. She
55:05
Speaker 24: was doing everything she could to make sure that you
55:08
Speaker 24: felt supported and you felt like you didn't have like
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Speaker 24: you had somebody, you know, like she was just she
55:14
Speaker 24: was an amazing mother. Like she was just so like
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Speaker 24: very loving, very bright, like just positive all the time,
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Speaker 24: like just a bubbly person, like just somebody you always
55:24
Speaker 24: want to talk to, like if you're having a sad day. See,
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Speaker 24: I mean, she was just one of my biggest support.
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Speaker 5: You stated that Manique was an amazing mother.
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Speaker 1: Please describe that for me. I really want to hear this.
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Speaker 25: With her kids, she was just very playful, just very attentive,
55:40
Speaker 25: like she just had this patience and this love for
55:43
Speaker 25: her kids, and she valued education, you know, And every
55:46
Speaker 25: time I've seen her with her children, it was always
55:49
Speaker 25: uplifting her, always saying positive stuff, even when she knew
55:52
Speaker 25: that they were doing something that they may have not
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Speaker 25: been doing, just giving her baby love, also giving her direction.
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Speaker 1: When did you learn she passed on? And when did
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Speaker 1: you learned was murdered?
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Speaker 24: I was sitting with my fiance and I was like,
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Speaker 24: hold on, this, this cannot be my girl. She's like
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Speaker 24: that's her, and I just I lost I lost it,
56:09
Speaker 24: Like I still can't process it, because how can somebody
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Speaker 24: want to hurt somebody like her? Like I just don't
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Speaker 24: even see her hurting a fly? Like you see how
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Speaker 24: beautiful her smile was, like she was just a radiating
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Speaker 24: like oh, like she was just a beam of sunlight.
56:22
Speaker 24: Like I was blessed that I got to experience her here.
56:25
Speaker 24: But when I found out the news, I was heartbroken.
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Speaker 24: I mean, I still am trying to process this, this tragedy,
56:32
Speaker 24: and it's like the details just get worse and worse
56:35
Speaker 24: and worse. How would you take them from us?
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Speaker 12: You know?
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Speaker 24: I just I just will never sit right with me
56:41
Speaker 24: and their babies were there like that hits so close
56:44
Speaker 24: to home to me, and you know, I've been through
56:46
Speaker 24: domestic violence, so the whole situation is very very touched,
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Speaker 24: you know. But I just I just I don't have
56:53
Speaker 24: the right word to be honest, I don't.
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Speaker 1: You know what.
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Speaker 5: I disagree with you, Arianna, because I think your words
57:02
Speaker 5: are perfect and the energy you have describing her, it's
57:07
Speaker 5: just something about her was just contagious. If you know
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Speaker 5: or think you know anything about this case, please dial
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Speaker 5: six one four six four five two two two eight
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Speaker 5: repeat six one four, six, four five two two two eight.
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Speaker 1: Thank you to our guests, but especially to you for
57:26
Speaker 1: being with us. Good night, friend,