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CJ Abrams Demoted · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Tape, where we talk
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It all starts right now. Welcome back to the three O take
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I'll be your host Kyle Korn. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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Happy Sunday. You know who you are.
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They got the notice on. They know what they're doing.
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They're. We don't like.
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They're who I love most. I don't like that favorites.
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Yeah, we don't like to play favorites, but.
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If you got your notice on and you're hopping in with live.
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You're kind of our favorites. It's kind of a given.
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Ricky says how about that Dodgers walk off?
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You're going to have to. This button has to be retired
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soon. No, I'm never retiring the
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breaking news button. Just so we're clear what a walk
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off it was, though. Not that we need to talk about
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it because I had no intention of really talking about it, but
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David said, Oh, hold on. David says 1st 120, shout out
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the White Sox. What a year.
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Shout out the White Sox we got. Oh, I, I love, I love when
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people bring breaking news to the recordings.
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I love it. I love it, I love it, Scott
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says. Why is the Philly fan wearing a
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Boston hat? Hey, shout out, shout out being
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a bandwagon fan. Shout out being a bandwagon
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band. Love that.
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Just such a. Crazy unnecessary stray, but I'm
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here for it. My goodness, no.
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But the that Dodgers walk off, I don't know if you saw it, but
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just it could not have been a more Dodgers walk off.
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Shohei ties it up in the ninth with a solo shot to give him
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what, 53, which we'll touch on. And that Mookie hits a walk off.
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Just the most Dodgers thing ever.
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To the Twitter. To the to the Twitter.
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Let's not get let's not get into it just yet.
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Let's let's let's sit here in this moment that we're in right
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now, Nate and reflect reflects on the fact that we have one
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week of regular season baseball left.
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Where did the time go? This is, it's weird.
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It's really weird because like at different moments.
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It was opening day like 3 days ago so where what happened?
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It really doesn't feel that long ago that Ryan was buzzed on our
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Hot Takes episode. Which by the way, my, my, my
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social awareness when it comes to whether or not people are
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actually buzzed or just full on wasted.
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I mean, if, if somebody's just belligerent, I, I, I'm, I'm OK
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at picking up those cues. Like, I just thought Ryan was
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having like a good time, you know, and he had a little bit on
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the side there. To that was just long enough for
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him to sober up towards the end, but that's.
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Fair. That's fair.
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Yeah. And then at the same time, it's
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like August felt like it was three months long.
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That's true, you know. And here we are with a week to
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go in September, knocking on the door of of the postseason.
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Yeah, good for us. Another year in the books, man.
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Another regular season, just hammering out episodes, watching
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a whole lot of baseball. This is cool, you watching some
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football on the side? All right, so all going on the.
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Side I don't do I have the freedom to do?
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Can I speak freely here? Depends.
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I'm not going to throw you one of the bus here, but I I need to
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pose. I need to pose a question to our
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listeners here. Well, let me lay out the
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scenario because there's a lot of play here.
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OK, So Nate, obviously Yankees fan, let let's just forgive him
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for that, OK? We, he, we can forgive him for
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that. And he also, I'm going to come
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to his defense. He has the ability and the
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freedom to talk freely about other baseball teams.
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Just because he's a Yankees fan doesn't mean he can't talk about
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other teams. Just get that out of the way.
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But Nate's a Yankees fan. Nate also loves football, and he
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informed me just before we hopped on that he had the
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Yankees game on his iPad and he had football on the big TV.
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How do we feel about this? How do we feel about being a fan
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of a team that's already locked up the postseason?
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Extensively in the division, just a matter of time.
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Extensively in the division, relegating that to the iPad.
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Afternoon game against the A's, by the way.
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That's for for more. It's still, it's still, you're
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still a baseball first guy. How do I like is, is this
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allowed? Are we giving him a pass here
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'cause I'm on the fence? When I have a $500 buy in for my
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fantasy league, that's fair. It's going up on the main
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screen. I forgot to.
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I forgot to remind myself of that.
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That's fair. That's all about.
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Context, my friend. All about context Sunday.
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Look, it's I'm in this weird lull before the postseason
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starts. The Yanks are playing great.
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I'm in this like it's the A's. It's a sweep.
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I don't need to have the volume on.
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That's how I roll. Speaking of $500 buy in, let's
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talk about CJ Abrams. Washington National Shortstop
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decided that, you know, it's time to mail this thing in.
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Let's let's head on over to Bally's, which by the way, I
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feel obligated to call out some of the degenerates in the
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comments because there were some people when I put out the post
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that, you know, summarized the, the incident of, of him getting
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demoted, being sent down because he was out at the the casino
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until 8:00 in the morning, which you've probably been to a casino
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more times than I have. That that's, I mean late being
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out late at night is one thing, but eight in the morning is
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that, is that normal behavior? I don't know.
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I've never played. I've never.
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I've played blackjack twice. When I go to the casino, I lose
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20 bucks in the slots and I'm out.
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That's me, that's me. I get the like $50.00 that they
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pump you with right away because it's all computerized now and
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they know how to latch you on it.
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And then I, I, I say, I'm going to convince myself that I'm
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going to save it. And I say, well, what, what's $5
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here? What's $10 here?
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And then by the end of it, I've lost the house.
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By the time that I, I leave, I've only gone a couple times.
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So not for me, but I got a call out the degenerates because they
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were like, yo, that's Bally's casino, isn't it?
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I'm like, how? First of all, how can you
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recognize that from a picture a, a cell phone picture of CJ
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Abrams? I I'm concerned for the
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well-being of some of our listeners who recognize the
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casino from the cell phone picture taken by a bystander of
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CJ Abrams. It's like table height, like
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sneaking around the dealer. And they're like, Oh yeah, no,
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no, that's Bally's and what and whatever.
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I don't even know. It's.
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Table 17. Isn't it like like crazy, just
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outing themselves? Oh, that's Sarah.
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She just walked by with the drinks and the and the
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appetizers. Like come on, let's clean it up.
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It's all. Potato skin Friday.
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I mean, I, I, I guess though, I, I mean, now that I'm thinking it
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through, I guess if you know, like what city he's in because
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this was it. Were they at home at at this
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point or were they on the road? It was Friday.
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Was this in Cincy because I guess if I now that I'm thinking
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there, if you if you know what city and they're they're you're
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probably limited on the casino options.
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But either way to Chicago, Chicago, that's what it was it
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it either way, little concerning that you can just spot you, you
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know, you know, the the waitresses walking by, you know
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the the specials that they've got going on Little much, little
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much. But no, he has been demoted to
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triple-A and he's losing. What's crazy is I don't know if
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you saw this detail come out after.
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He's losing money. He's losing 30 K and at and at
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the time that he got sent down. Drop in the bucket of what he
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lost on Friday. That's very true.
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Yeah. You're not you're not staying
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out till 8:00 AM if you're in the green.
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We know, we know that much. You're trying to you're trying
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to do a little bit of recouping. I know, we know that.
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But no, he's losing 30 K And I believe at the time that he got
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sent down, they only had two games left.
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Really. So like when when it happened
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before the news came out about the the casino, people were like
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me, I mean, me included when I saw this.
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I'm going. There is no way that you can
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convince me his play has been that bad as of late to send him
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down with the week left in the in the in the big league season.
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And then we find out about the casino and then you're like,
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kind of makes sense, which brings me to my next point.
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How do we feel? How do we feel about this?
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We'll just call it tough love. I mean, because this is, I mean,
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this isn't just a benching, this is, this is a full blown
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demotion here because of his actions.
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How do we feel about it? Sorry I'm just reading through
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this article saying it was eight for his last 17.
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It does say ballet casino Jim Bowden's tweet.
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I like it look man, like First off, we don't know if this is
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his first time, right? Like have they have they dragged
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him out of a casino before? Like has this been an issue in
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the past? We don't know that.
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Did they keep it in house before?
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And then this was like, you know, was that a discussion
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being like, hey, you know, we catch you again.
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Here are the consequences. Here's what's going to happen.
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8:00 AM is insane, especially for a day game.
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And what noon I think? I think it was a one Saturday
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game. I mean most of those guys are
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getting to the park. I I think it like 93010 O clock
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at the latest. For sure.
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Yeah, yeah. So when you, I'm assuming curfew
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set when you're on the road, like there, there's a lot of
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things that go into this where I think lines have been drawn, you
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know, like here, here are expectations don't cross them.
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I think it sends a massive message on what will be
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tolerated moving forward. I, I like it all.
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I'm OK with everything about this on the national side.
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I really am because like you and I have talked about it and, and
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you can speak to this better than me, but like the, I think
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with the names they have in the, in the core that they're trying
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to build and what they're trying to do and they're only five
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years removed, you know, from their last ring.
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It's not like they've gone this 10/12/15 year period of having
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to rebuild. Like in reality, this potential
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rebuild is happening pretty quick.
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I'm not sitting here and saying that they're going to be
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fighting for the division next year by any means.
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But when you talk about some of these names that they've gotten
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in these trades and the drafts, it's like, OK, we, we can see
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something happening here. So I, I think it sets like a
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really good precedent. It sends a really good message
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of like, you know, this isn't going to happen.
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You're not wasting your time in some worthless organization.
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We pride ourselves on, you know, having a championship mentality.
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I think this is a job well done by GMI think this is a job well
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done by the organization in general.
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I support it. And on top of that, I think the
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thing that people need to keep in perspective here, who is
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predominantly been the headlining name for the
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Washington Nationals this year, yeah, one could argue CJ Abrams.
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So what would that say to the rest of the guys in that
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clubhouse if this just gets slid under the rug?
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Right, 100? Percent, 100%.
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And this is this is more so for for him than the team that the
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team doesn't need CJCJ Abrams right now.
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There's a week left to go in the season they've been eliminated.
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If if anything, your guys in, in, in this situation are just
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using this last week to get to, to get tuned up for the
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offseason, just to make some, some last minute tweaks, some
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adjustments to see what, what's working form and, and they can
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build off that once the offseason gets here.
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This is more for him and, and getting him in a position of
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possible leadership heading into next year.
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Because like we were like we were just talking about the
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nationals are going to become more and more of a, a threat in,
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in seasons to come. And I'm, I would imagine they
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want him to be a part of that. They're I, I would, I would
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probably peg the nationals as a team that would follow a similar
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path. And again, we, we already talked
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about it. They they got the ring back in
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19. So it's not like we're talking
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about some team that's been thirsting for a ring for decades
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now. Like they, they've got that, but
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they're they're having to re enter this cycle where it's
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like, OK, we got to get back to that point.
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And I would probably, I'd probably say they're going to
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follow a path of like the Tigers where it's like, OK, you're kind
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of the laughingstock of the league, Maybe not even a
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laughingstock, but you're just you're, you're, you're
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uncompetitive for an extended period of time.
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And then you, you, you might even sneak into the playoffs
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this year. Then the next year you maybe
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make a run at the division. And then the years to follow,
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you're, you're possibly even going for the Pennant, Who
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knows? But it, you, you can't get to
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that point if you don't take care of the little things first.
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Like they, they, you, they teach you that in Little League, you
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got in order to worry about the big things, you got to focus on
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the little little things first. And if you have a guy that they
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want to peg possibly as a leader of this clubhouse, you can't,
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you can't let it slide that he's out at the casino till 8:00 in
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the morning, regardless if they're eliminated or not.
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It does. It does not matter.
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And, and I think now more than ever, when you when you grab
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names from the past and you we can crossover into different
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sports and you can talk, you know, I mean, Michael Jordan's
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Michael Jordan, but like he absolutely was a gambling man.
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When you talk Dennis Rodman, you know, flying to Vegas in the
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middle of the finals, you know, you have David Wells going out
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and and staying out late at bars and then throwing a perfect game
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the next day. Like there's eyes everywhere
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now. Then information is
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instantaneous. Now, you know, like this is out
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in the open right away. And I think there's probably a
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little bit of like a smack in the face to the organization as
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well, just being like, I'm seeing a tweet about you.
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I don't, I haven't heard anything about you, but I'm
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finding out on Twitter because of what you're doing versus back
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in the day, it was like, you know, a teammate had to go find
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him somewhere or, you know, the club he had to go, you know, do
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this. Like it's just you can't, you
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can't operate that way anymore and you're not that guy yet.
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The I don't think you have that kind of leash, You know what I
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mean? Like you haven't gotten to that
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point in your career where you're able to do these types of
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things. So not that it's ever
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necessarily acceptable in these terms of a day game and and 8:00
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AM checking back in from the there from the, from the casino.
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I mean, it's, it's a tough look, dude.
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It's a tough look. And this is probably going to
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smart a little bit. It's probably going to be a
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little hit to the to the confidence, to the ego.
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But like, I think if I'm CJ Abrams, I got to be somewhat
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thankful of the timing of this type of decision.
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If this happens in July, which who knows, maybe he's not
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staying at an at a casino until 8:00 AM in July.
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But like, I think the way everything has been handled is,
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is good. You know, there's a week left.
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We have the, the offseason to let this kind of blow over.
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We have all of spring training to kind of get back on the feet.
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And he he has come onto the scene and he has started to show
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why he was worth that trade. So it's just going to take a lot
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to kind of overcome this because you know, jokes are going to be
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fine for a while. Well, that's a perfect segue
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here because I the reason I started smiling is because I, I
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just remembered a picture I saw the other day, like probably
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within 24 hours of it happening. This is why social media is
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undefeated. Somebody had photoshopped a
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picture. Well, they took the picture of
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see that was snapped of CJ Abrams at the table and somebody
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made it real small, put them over in the corner, but it was
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eBay standing at the same table. I'm like these, these folks
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don't let anything slide, man. It's crazy.
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I saw a tweet that was like, and I don't know if this number is
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accurate at all, but it was like CJ Abrams lost 130 K at the
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casino, which still isn't a record.
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And then like a little space below just says eBay in ( 2023.
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Like, like he holds that record. It's so true, I love it.
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Speaking of losing, so let's revisit this White Sox nugget.
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120 losses on the season made official mere moments ago at the
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hands of the Padres. I believe it was a comeback win
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for the pods, who we'll touch on here in just a moment.
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They're they're riding the wave of their own, but the White Sox
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have tied the 1962 Mets record for most losses in the modern
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era. Six games left.
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At 120 with six games left. I feel good about this.
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I feel good about that record. Let's get the one.
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Let's get the 1:25. It's a nice rounded number.
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OK, give me, give me your realistic, give me your
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realistic estimate as to how you think these last six games are
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going to go for the White Sox. What do you peg?
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What is What is their final lost tally by the end of this?
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Week, So six games, Angels. They're hosting the Angels
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starting Tuesday, and then they're going to Detroit to
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finish out for three games. So it's a is it a league wide,
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league wide off day tomorrow? Correct.
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Aren't all these because there's six games left unless somebody's
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getting? I think there's a there's
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probably like a make make up like rain out games, stuff like
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that maybe. Thursdays that oh, there's
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literally there's four games on Monday, four games tomorrow.
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That's all we got. So that means.
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I hate that. So six games, yeah, I would
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really love to see. I would really love to see
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around 1:25. Oh, and that you said they close
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out with the Tigers? Yeah, I just don't even, I don't
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think the Angels are good enough to take two out of three.
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Screw it, let's go, let's go. One for five.
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One and five here. A nice round 125 loss season.
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125 that would math. Don't fail me now.
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That would be 125 and 37. Yeah, Well, yeah, it'd be one.
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One more win than they have now. Which?
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Is 36. Yeah, I'm at adds up.
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Need that. Love that.
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Feel bad for Grady Sizemore. I I really don't like the, I
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mean, I like they were on this, yeah.
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But this, this is no reflection of Grady Sizemore.
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They were on this trajectory when he took over.
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They had been on this trajectory pretty much since opening day.
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So like, he's more so just along for the ride than anything.
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But yeah, I mean, I would hate to have to show up to the
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ballpark every day with this, with this going on.
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But the, I think the, I think the highlight from this, this
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stretch that they've been on as of late or really the whole
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season, but especially as of late, is the, what you and I
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were talking about, the social media admin, the Twitter admin
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has fully thrown in the towel as if, as if they had no reason to
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at any other point during the season.
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They, I think they got to a point where they're like, you
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know, we're, we're really coasting now.
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We're letting it ride. So I mean, if if you're on
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Twitter at all, you need to check out what's been going on
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with that. I mean, they they're just,
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they're just letting it loose pretty much any of the game like
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recap tweets that they post. It's just like the ones I'm
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looking at now. Final instead of posting the
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scores that can be found on the MLB app final.
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The number of runs we scored was not crater than the number of
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runs they scored final. The other team scored more runs
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than us. And then the one tonight after
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they dropped that comeback win to the Padres.
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It was something like you saw it.
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What was it? It was like post the final.
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It was that car peeling off to the exit ramp meme.
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It was like post the final score graphic or literally anything
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else and it's peeling off to literally anything else.
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They, I mean, they just don't care.
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Like I said, I'm. I'm I like it.
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I'm here for. That, oh, I love it.
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I'm I'm just genuinely surprised it took them this long.
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I, I, I guess they must have had like an internal conversation
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with the with the social creative team and they're like,
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yeah, all right, We're we're in the clear now.
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Like we don't have these games truly mean nothing at this
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point. So, you know, good on the White
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Sox for embrace embracing the suck.
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I can't say the same about the A's, but you know, whatever
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they're going to do what they're going to do.
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I like this one. Four days ago.
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This is Narrator Colon. The White Sox did not win four
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in a row. Flat energy face.
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Yeah, that was I I saw that one and I and I had to pause and go
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back and look at the schedule. I'm like, hold on, The White Sox
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won three straight. When did this happen?
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I love this. I I just think like there's not
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to get like too serious about this because whatever, but like
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there's just something that's so cool in sports when you're like
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raw and real and like when the fan base knows what you mean and
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can see through your, your politically correct BS answers
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and tweets and comments and you're like, just be real, dude.
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Like just show what we're all. Saying and thinking it's the
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simplest, one of the simplest social experiments you could
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ever run. Go look at the comments.
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I mean, I'm, I'm looking at this through the lens of like social
24:35
media success and, and just kind of embracing the fans that pay
24:39
money to, to watch you and support you.
24:44
Just do a little compare and contrast.
24:46
Go read the replies in in those tweets and then, well, you can't
24:49
read the replies of the A's tweets, but just do a little
24:54
digging around and see what the sentiment was surrounding that.
24:57
And then compare that to what the White Sox are doing.
24:59
White Sox are a far worse team this year and they're still
25:03
getting love on social because of stuff like this.
25:05
It's a, it's a easy social experiment and I don't know why
25:07
more teams don't do this. I think you're right.
25:09
I think trying to like keep a professional tone on like, no,
25:15
nobody cares. Like nobody cares.
25:16
Just let it, let it eat and have fun with it 'cause you suck and
25:21
you're you're now tied for the most most losses in in the
25:26
modern era. So one in five, one in five,
25:28
everybody. That's good on the Whites here.
25:30
I'm about it. Let's talk about some teams that
25:37
are in the mix here making a push.
25:41
Well, one of them's already. One of them's already in, the
25:45
other one is not officially in yet, which is wild given that
25:51
you're a 90 win team at this point.
25:53
But the Dodgers and the Padres just want to touch on this
25:59
division race right quick because I'm looking at you,
26:05
Nate. Yeah, you have pretty much
26:08
written this division off couple weeks, couple weeks ago.
26:12
And I said no, hold on. And then you asked me.
26:15
You're like, well, what? What would what would you
26:17
consider close or what what how many games back would would the
26:23
Padres have to be for it to be considered a quote?
26:26
I believe I said not a cute. Story.
26:29
Yeah. I think we both, yeah, I think
26:32
we both agreed on that. I think I said like 2 1/2 or
26:35
something. It's.
26:36
A fair number. 'Cause you were calling it a
26:38
cute story the the run that the the Padres and respectively, the
26:41
D backs we're making. Although the D backs have hit a
26:44
little bit more of a slide, Padres are 8 and two in their
26:46
last 10. They've won four straight and as
26:50
mentioned, 3 back of the Dodgers.
26:54
At the time of this recording. At the time of this recording,
26:57
so all let's say just checking in.
26:59
Don't think it's don't entirely think it's just a cute story
27:03
yet. Big three-game set.
27:05
I want to see the pitching matchups here.
27:08
Michael King against somebody with the last name NAK.
27:13
Landon Knack, Who knows Ball? Don't cease, Jack Flaherty.
27:22
By the way, Nate, on this on this note, you and I got called
27:24
out on Joe. Mossgrove against undecided.
27:28
We got called out on YouTube for not remembering that show.
27:33
Hayes walk off was a Grand Slam they said.
27:37
They said this channel said this channel sucks, he's got no ball.
27:40
I said oh that seems. Rational weeks ago.
27:44
That was like a month ago that. Seems that seems rational.
27:47
Very rational take. I really remember that, I
27:49
remember everything about the moment, just don't remember it
27:53
being a walk off sorry. Yeah.
27:57
Yeah, good, good matchups for the for the Padres, at least.
28:04
I mean, Nate, three-game set Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
28:07
I mean, the Padres take this, they, they hypothetically, they
28:11
sweep the series. We're looking at the final three
28:15
games. I know it's.
28:16
Crazy too deciding this the. Padres The Dodgers go on to go
28:22
to Course Field to face the Rockies, but the Padres come
28:27
here to Phoenix and finish up with the Diamondbacks.
28:32
So however this series goes, it's a tougher final three-game
28:37
set for the Padres for sure. So I mean it well, that, yeah,
28:42
that, that that would make sense.
28:44
If you're, if you're going to get your, if you're getting your
28:48
your punches in, you better do it this series because Dodgers
28:53
are heading to Colorado. Good luck with that.
28:56
Padres, if you don't take the series and you're trying for
28:59
that division crown, which they may or may not be.
29:01
We've talked about this. It I, I would, I would venture
29:04
to say that it's probably a team by team approach in terms of who
29:09
actually wants the division based on the way they've seen
29:12
these last few expanded post seasons go with teams getting
29:17
the bye versus not getting the bye.
29:20
How does that impact momentum? How does that impact?
29:22
Yeah, the rest that you get or or lack thereof, Some, some
29:27
teams may not want that division.
29:28
I know it sounds silly, but there's some strategy to it if
29:31
you look at the way things have gone.
29:34
I'm yeah, I'm not ready to to let that die yet.
29:39
I'm not ready to to let that narrative or theory die yet.
29:45
I mean, taking that time off, it just depends, dude, because
29:49
like, you know, one can argue that the Dodgers need it to get
29:52
a little bit more healthy. Still, a million question marks
29:55
are on that pitching staff. I mean, Thursday's game is still
29:58
undecided. Like we don't we have no idea
30:00
what's going on there. So Padres, I mean, they again,
30:08
they just they give me like Diamondbacks from last year
30:10
vibes were just like, let's just keep playing, stay hot, stay in
30:14
a groove. You know, it's that theory that
30:17
like which I don't know how I feel about this theory, but
30:21
sometimes it makes sense. We're like home runs kill a
30:24
rally. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
30:27
Like I'd I'd. That's very like.
30:29
I'd prefer double S to like roll over or something like, you
30:31
know, like a single and like score runner, then like a, you
30:35
know, empty the bases with, you know, a home run.
30:37
Like sometimes it kills a rally. I feel like when you're going
30:41
hot, you don't want days off. You don't want to, to rest like
30:45
you want to stay in the groove. So it's very interesting.
30:49
And like you mentioned, the Padres being 8 and 2, like you
30:54
can be amped up, man. It is in LA, by the way, not in
30:57
San Diego. It was in San Diego, I think.
31:01
I think this would be a very different, the exciting thing.
31:08
But I, I, I think the Dodgers are fine.
31:10
I think they're OK. You think they pull it out?
31:14
I think they're OK because I'm rooting for something to happen
31:17
and with what Shohei could do, it means that they're likely
31:22
winning. So I'm rooting for what Shohei
31:25
could do and I think the result of it being them winning.
31:30
You really set us set us up on a tee for that one.
31:34
Speaking of which, Shohei Otani pushing for 6060.
31:41
And I know, I know. You hear that and you go,
31:43
there's no way. We were, we were wondering if
31:46
he'd even make 5050 by the end of season.
31:48
Yeah, he probably was too. And then was like, while I'm
31:50
here, may as well push it to 6060 or at least die trying.
31:56
Shout out $0.50. Look, I think the swipes are
32:00
there. I'd like the swipes feel like
32:02
they just they come naturally. 53 homers and 55 bags.
32:09
I think you're right. I think he gets 6060 swipes,
32:12
which if I'm being honest, like, yeah, it's a more impressive
32:21
thing, but I like the round nature of a 5050.
32:26
So like, if you're going to do one, do the other.
32:28
And I know that's asking a lot because we have six games.
32:30
Left Oh, you're saying like 7 Homer, Don't, don't.
32:33
If you can't get the seven, Homer, don't get to 60.
32:36
Yeah, I get that. Yeah, don't give me a 5060
32:39
season that that does. Yeah, it doesn't ring.
32:41
That does ring ring as well. Yeah, it doesn't, doesn't roll
32:44
out the tongue. I get that, but I mean when you
32:46
think about it, like could you imagine a more perfect ending?
32:49
You get three games at home and you get 3 games in Denver at
32:54
Coors Field. We just watched him hit three in
32:58
Miami. Like yeah, he he's off on suck
33:03
teams. If he gets a couple, seven home
33:09
runs in six games is nuts. But all right, let's let's well,
33:12
let's map it out here. So you got six games.
33:15
You would obviously need a couple multi home run games
33:18
there. So let's say he has 2 multi home
33:20
run games. That would put him at 4, which
33:22
would give him 57, which means he would have.
33:26
Four games and four games. Three home runs and four games,
33:30
which means zoom out, big picture, you're hitting a home
33:33
run every game for the next for the final six games of the
33:36
regular season. So that's that's a feat.
33:40
Here's the other argument though.
33:42
It takes away the opportunities for the swipes like.
33:47
That's very true. Kids steal as many bags if
33:49
you're if you're trotting so. Yeah, that's true.
33:52
Because that would means that the that those ABS that you're
33:56
not hitting nukes, you had very, very limited ABS at that point.
34:01
That means you have to get on in those few limited ABS.
34:05
So which which really means Shohei would probably have to
34:08
hit like 950 over the course of the last six games.
34:12
Yeah. So if you're if you're if you're
34:16
Shohei, give me 6060 or give me nothing.
34:20
Yeah. Yeah.
34:22
Otherwise, shut it down on the basis you're right 50-60 does
34:26
not have their ring. Because even like even if you
34:29
get 59, you're not, I mean you're, you're not in the 5060
34:33
club, but then it's like you may as well be at 60.
34:38
So just get 60. Yeah.
34:41
Either shut it down now or get the 66 that's it's simple
34:44
though. He's.
34:44
Rolling now he's he's matching. Right now, so let.
34:48
Me see, let me but. Again, day off tomorrow.
34:51
Like sometimes you don't want those.
34:55
That's not what show he needs right now.
35:04
Last, sorry, I'm pulling up what show he's done the last 10 days.
35:12
So in 10 games between September 12th and September 22nd, he's
35:18
hitting 429 with 18 hits, six home runs, 19 ribbies and 12
35:23
runs scored. And 200 total bases. 200 total
35:31
bases and I have 7 swipes over that span.
35:33
So 7 swipes over 10 games over his last 10 games.
35:40
I feel like the swipes are there.
35:43
I need AI. Need just a straight slugfest in
35:46
Denver? He can do it, I mean.
35:49
Need a couple of these games to go extra like I, I think I want
35:54
it root for something, you know? I need the White Sox to tank.
35:59
I need Otani to become all. Right, so the checklist for Nate
36:04
checklist for Nate this week White Sox go one and five show.
36:09
Hey, just do the 60 sixty thing. That's all I need, then I'm
36:13
fine. That's.
36:15
Everything. Everything else doesn't even
36:18
matter. It's a simple ask.
36:28
We'll see if it plays out. We'll see if it plays out.
36:32
Lastly here, Nate, let's talk about this final series coming
36:35
up at the Coliseum. Talking kind of the theme of
36:38
this episode has been this this upcoming week, this final week
36:41
of the regular season that will include the final regular or the
36:45
final series I should say just generally speaking at the
36:50
Oakland Coliseum starting on Tuesday running through Thursday
36:53
versus the Rangers before they make their move to Sacramento.
37:02
I'm not. I'm going to avoid being
37:05
negative here, but I do have to say something right off the top
37:08
because it, it made me stop and go.
37:12
Hmm. I read today that apparently
37:21
more and more players are growing upset because they wish
37:27
they were staying at the Coliseum.
37:32
And I read that and I had to stop and go.
37:34
Hmm. Hmm.
37:39
Because we know objectively that the Oakland Coliseum is not
37:47
good, so why would you want to stay?
37:54
There maybe they've befriended some of the raccoons that are
38:05
living in there. The possums in the ceiling.
38:07
It's possible raccoons are in Queens.
38:12
We're getting our animals mixed up.
38:14
The possums are in in Oakland. They were in the visiting radio
38:19
booth. What would you rather be friends
38:21
with? Raccoons for sure.
38:24
They're little hands. Raccoons are super chill.
38:27
They're like little. Bandits.
38:28
Yeah. Little trash bandits.
38:30
Yeah. Just love their little hands.
38:35
Possums are weird. They hiss.
38:37
I think they hiss, but they kind of look like.
38:42
They're chill though. Yeah, they're chill.
38:44
They're like a rat with like an armadillo tail thing.
38:47
Oh, you're talking. You're talking possums.
38:49
I thought we're still talking raccoons.
38:50
Oh, yeah. I don't know if the possums are
38:52
chill. Yeah, they might be.
38:53
They might be kind of nasty, but the raccoons are.
38:55
Give me raccoons all day. Raccoons are chill.
39:00
But other than that, other than this sentiment from the players
39:04
from the, from these Oakland, a players that claim that they're
39:09
upset that they wish they could stay because they, they, they
39:12
can't say they're upset that they can't stay.
39:14
Ouch. I, I can't wrap my head around
39:15
don't even know if that was said or don't don't know if this was
39:19
a thing where the person writing the article just needed some
39:22
filler and decided to go with the vague arbitrary sweeping
39:28
statement. Aside from that, though, how do
39:32
we feel about this being the the swan song for the Coliseum?
39:37
I don't know. I mean, like you got to imagine
39:42
they're basically like minor league facilities anyway.
39:45
Like, I don't think it's that much of A downgrade to go to
39:48
Sacramento. No, I don't.
39:50
I don't. I'm not talking necessarily big
39:52
picture. I'm not even really talking
39:53
about next year. I'm just saying like this, just
39:56
being it like that, because I, I got to, I got to say I'm sitting
40:00
there, I'm, I'm sifting through some articles and just trying to
40:03
get, I'm trying to gauge like what the, what the expectation
40:06
is for this final series. And it's like one of those
40:11
things where it it, it made me stop and.
40:15
Think about the fact that like the, the Oakland A for, I mean,
40:20
for as long as we've been alive and fans of baseball, it's been
40:24
the Oakland A's. And it's kind of one of those,
40:26
it's one of those things where you're like, this is this is
40:29
really happening. Like this, This isn't just a
40:32
talking point that we, we touched on months ago to, you
40:37
know, because it was something that popped up in the news like
40:40
no, this is a real, this is a real thing that's happening.
40:44
It's coming to a close. I'm ready for it.
40:50
I mean, I understand that. Like there's probably some
40:54
bittersweet aspects to it. Do we know what the the A's
40:57
faithful is doing? All the the groups that like
41:01
boycott games or decide to bring this to a game or don't bring
41:06
this or park here? Well, I mean dozens of fans
41:10
that. OK, well, we're not, I said
41:13
we're not going to. We're not going to go on a
41:14
slander fest here, and I'm not going to.
41:19
But the last I checked the tickets were going like very
41:22
fast for this series. Even though they were expensive,
41:25
right? Oh, right, yeah.
41:29
Oh, man, I completely forgot that way up.
41:31
Yeah, yeah, we definitely talked about that.
41:32
I completely forgot, forgot they did that.
41:34
That was like weeks ago at this point.
41:36
They were like, yeah, we see there's some demand here, so.
41:40
Screw you. It'd be cool to see, man.
41:45
It'd be cool to see. And I hate to say it, I I do
41:50
think it'd be neat to see like something.
41:58
According to seek shout out seek used from a code 3 O take
42:02
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42:08
According to Seek, the availability is looking a little
42:11
sparse. I mean, all things considered,
42:14
it's looking, it's looking a little, little thin in terms of
42:18
ticket availability. So it it, I think for that, at
42:20
least for the finale, I can't speak for the other two games,
42:23
but for that Thursday game. Who they got again?
42:28
The Rangers are coming to town. That's right.
42:32
Yeah. I mean, I I would like to see a
42:34
little something not at all on the same level at all, but the
42:41
Yankees final game in old Yankee Stadium, you know, everyone
42:44
comes out and and Jeter grabs the mic and, you know, like that
42:48
kind of thing. I don't think there's going to
42:49
be a microphone situation, but I I think it would be cool to have
42:55
like some type of moment, you know what I mean?
42:57
Like the fans aren't leaving their seats.
43:00
Like, did you not something like that?
43:01
OK, so you didn't hear this then?
43:03
OK, because I saw this just before we hopped on standby.
43:06
I got to I got to find this because there apparently was
43:14
something that came out that said that the ah, here it is
43:20
from dugout report on Facebook. The O the A's.
43:23
This is me reading the post verbatim, so don't don't come
43:25
after me. I don't know if this is fully
43:27
accurate. This is what I saw.
43:28
According to Dugout Report, the A's in the league have told
43:31
players not to not linger after the Athletics last game in
43:34
Oakland on September 26th. Quote Precautions for the final
43:38
homestand have been taken by the team, per ESPN's Tim Keown,
43:42
alerting the players to be aware of their surroundings in case
43:45
fans decide to take the field. Players have also been told not
43:49
to gather for photographs with family on the field after the
43:51
game. Just get out of there.
43:53
Quote. JJ Laday said this.
43:56
No, I'm sorry, let me rephrase quote.
43:58
Just get out of there. JJ Bledet said the sentiment was
44:01
manager Mark Kotze, who had planned to thank the crowd after
44:04
the game was told to go straight to the clubhouse, Bob
44:07
Nightingale reported. What are they going to do?
44:13
What are they going to do? Honestly, to me that sounds like
44:22
a cop out from the league. And no, that's absolutely I, I
44:27
don't know why I didn't arrive at this conclusion earlier.
44:29
That's 1000% of cop out from the league saying, oh, like we don't
44:33
want anything to happen to the players.
44:35
No, what you don't want to happen is there for to be any
44:39
sort of ceremony that would commemorate the fact that one of
44:44
the owners and the league just as a whole, though, in terms of
44:47
how they've managed this situation was completely
44:51
botched. And you don't want you don't
44:53
want there being any sort of signage that makes its way on
44:56
the field after the game. You don't cause well, you know
44:58
that's going to be there. People are going to find a way
45:00
to get that in. But you just don't want there to
45:02
be any added time or opportunity for the league or for for fans
45:08
or even players even to make any sort of statement that would
45:12
speak out against one of your owners or your league.
45:15
It's as. Simple as that.
45:17
This is weird. You're right, this is very
45:19
weird. This is very weird.
45:23
Like you're, you're saying goodbye to a city.
45:26
Like as much as we want to doggone, as much as much crap
45:29
that I want to dish out to them, You're you're saying goodbye to
45:32
a city. That's what I'm saying like.
45:34
You're saying you are saying goodbye.
45:35
It's not like a new stadium is opening up across the street
45:39
like this is like an official goodbye.
45:43
It's weird to not even allow that to happen.
45:47
It's weird to not have like any moments.
45:52
I don't know, I don't like this. The whole thing sucks.
45:59
The whole thing could have been like just build a new a new spot
46:02
in Oakland and you would have been fine.
46:04
Spend money like this. Never this.
46:06
This is a breakup that never needed to happen.
46:14
Bad owners. I've made my, my thoughts pretty
46:19
clear over the last year or two about the situation.
46:23
And I've, I, I feel like I've been somewhat critical of the
46:30
A's fan base in terms of not, not so much the way they've
46:35
responded to this situation, but where they were at when the team
46:39
was successful and making those they were, they were showing up
46:43
in the wild card. They were making those, those
46:46
runs into the DS People said, well, why would we the, the, the
46:51
common response I got from from ace fans, Why would we show up
46:55
and support a losing product and, and, and bad ownership?
46:59
We won a winning product. And it's not, it's not that
47:01
difficult to, to, to assemble that if you care.
47:05
It's like, OK, well, those years back in the 20 tens where you
47:09
were showing up in the in in the postseason, I went back, I laid
47:13
out the attendance numbers for those games and it it, it kind
47:20
of raises your eyebrow a little bit.
47:22
You go, hmm, where, where was the turn out for, for those,
47:26
those and it it wasn't necessary.
47:29
I'm sorry, let me rephrase. It wasn't the postseason turn
47:31
out. It was the the regular season
47:34
leading up to the those postseason games because it's.
47:37
Where there was success. You're watching winning
47:39
baseball. You have to be winning baseball
47:41
games as a team. If you make it to the
47:43
postseason, which is what they did.
47:44
That's sorry, I needed to rephrase that.
47:46
That it was it was a regular seasons of those years.
47:49
And it's like, OK, well, where were you then?
47:53
Like it. It's hard for me to to look at
47:55
that and and then look at the way this year has gone.
47:58
And then it's like, why are you taking our team from us?
48:01
It's like, I understand it's more complex than than just
48:06
this, but I don't know. It's I've, I've just, I've had a
48:12
hard time digesting the whole, like, Oakland fans are the
48:16
greatest fans in the world. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
48:19
Like I can't get there. I'm not going to get there.
48:21
I'm not ever going to get there. Yeah, like you, you had your
48:27
chance to. And I get it, Like you don't
48:28
want to support, but you do want to support.
48:31
It's very strange and it's probably a tough line to tell,
48:35
but like, I don't know. I don't know.
48:41
But to your point, it's like it sucks you're leaving a city.
48:43
And I can certainly sympathize with with fans on that like
48:48
that. I'm I'm not going to, I'm not
48:50
going to get all cold on them for that like that.
48:52
I mean. That part is like, I just think
48:55
it's directly with fans and players.
48:59
Like if you can remove all the other aspects to it, like allow,
49:06
allow players to hang out, allow players to sign autographs, fans
49:12
aren't getting on the field, it's not going to happen.
49:14
This is in the 70s. So like, don't sit here and say
49:16
like, we got to watch out for that.
49:17
It's not going to happen. Signs are going to happen no
49:21
matter what. Like you, I don't understand the
49:24
sentiment is going to carry over into Sacramento.
49:26
You're still going to have a bitter fan base and you're going
49:30
to have Sacramento. That's like, we don't care what
49:32
that you're here, you know, like you're still going to have those
49:35
aspects to it. Like nothing about a standing O
49:39
or walking around signing autographs or taking it a lap
49:43
around the field is going to change that.
49:48
Just let it be what it is and not step in.
49:52
Shame on the league, shame in the league, shame in the A's.
49:56
It's too predictable though. You you could have seen this
49:59
coming. The league just doesn't want any
50:00
blowback after the the last that last A's game.
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They just don't, they don't want to deal with it.
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So they're saying A's management, front office, tell
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your team to wrap it up after the the final out and get him in
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the clubhouse. Because we don't want to deal
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with any of this. We don't want to deal with the
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signs. We don't want to deal with the
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insults, we don't want to deal with any, any sort of sentiment
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that would reflect poorly upon us, which from a business
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perspective, I get it. But also like you made your own
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bed, like now you got a lay in it and they're doing everything
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they can to avoid having to lay in it, which is just sad.
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But good point. What else would you expect from
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the league? That's all I really had.
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Unless you got anything else, Any other items you want to
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touch on before we get into the week?
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No, not really. Did I say something before?
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I can't remember. No.
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No. Nothing you wanted to put a pin
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in. Give me your top five.
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Give me your top five jersey numbers real quick.
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What would you wear? What would you want to wear?
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Put. Me on the spot here.
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What? Do you think of that?
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Well, I mean, I got to go. I got to put my 2 numbers to the
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top. I'd I'd have to go got to go 34
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and I got to go 8 OK, But then after that I'd go 2424 is a sexy
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jersey number. OK.
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And then I do. I do concur there.
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And then I'd probably go 5. No, I'd go 9 and then five. 9.
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9. Really. 9 isn't sexy to me?
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No, not there. I love Nye, dude, that's a,
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that's a, that's a good baseball number, Yeah.
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Mine are mostly low. Give me two, give me 7.
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Give me 8. Give me give me 21. 21. 21 is
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just a good baseball number. I like that.
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But yeah, no, I mean. They give me 3.
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No judgement, I just didn't know. 278213.
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Where's 21 stem from I. Don't know.
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It's a good number. I like it.
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It's a good baseball number. That is a good baseball number.
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Shout out, shout out, Roberto Clemente.
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Guess that name? Hall of Fame.
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One of the members of our guest the name Hall of Fame.
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Very, very valid point. Let's have a good week folks.
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Final. Like we talked about pretty much
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the whole episode last week of regular season baseball.
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My closing thought would be because I had this thought
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myself, I had to, I had to stop myself from what I was doing and
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I, I had to, I had to really let it sink in that we've only got
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six games left. And even if your team sucks,
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watch the last six games because I promise you we've you've, if
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you're listening to this, you've probably been a fan of baseball
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for some time. So you know what I'm about to
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say. But you're going to get to a
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point in the middle of January and you're going to say, man, I
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wish my team was on TV right now.
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And you won't be able to watch them on TV.
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You know why? Because it's the offseason.
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So what's the best thing to do with six games left?
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Watch those games on TV. So very true.
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So even if your team sucks, even if whoever your team is going up
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against this week in their last two remaining series, even if
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they're going to get pounced, watch the games because you're
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going to miss it once the offseason hits.
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It's a great point. Let's end on that.
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Don't go chasing curve balls. We love you all and as always,
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looking forward to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
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Until next time, stay filthy.