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Ep. 158 - Halloween (2018) · Frightmares

• 0:43
  Speaker 1: I absolutely love the score from this Halloween movie. OMG. Well,
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: I mean we can thank John Carpenter, Cody Carpenter and
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: the other person I'm blanking on and Daniel Day. There
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: we go, those three guys. Fucking brilliant. Score is so good.
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: It's very intense, it's very like foreboding, and it's perfect.
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: This is the this is the one most like the
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: most played album I did last year, because you know,
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: it was Meyers last year on Halloween. So we were
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: playing Halloween music, like the Halloween music from the movies,
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: and this one's like the best, and I would just
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: crank it up.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it's so good, so good, the like I remember
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: when we saw the trailer and we heard that, we
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: like like, oh god, helloo.
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: So today is very exciting. We have so much stuff
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: to talk about. Obviously, we're talking about Halloween twenty eighteen,
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: which we also we talked about this back on. Me
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: and Gabby did this for our Creeping a Real episode,
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: which was episode way back when, sixty, season two, episode thirty.
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: Almost a one hundred episodes.
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: Later, almost one hundred episodes later, we're gonna were solely
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: talking about this because we did Unsane the Hitcher Halloween
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: and it follows that was when we were doing four
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: fucking movies. Yeah, so this is gonna be fun to
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: just solely talk about this, talk about Halloween kills, talk
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: about Halloween ends, which we just got tickets for.
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: Two days and saw the new trailer.
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: And saw the new trailer, so this was like the
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: perfect time to.
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  Speaker 2: Do this episode. We had no idea. We had no idea.
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  Speaker 2: The other like the tickets and the new trailer were
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  Speaker 2: dropping it.
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea. So this was like the perfect
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: day to do this. And I did record these episodes backwards.
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: I did me and Corey did. Corey did ours yesterday
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: for Adventaire, and now we're doing ours today. And I
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: definitely said episode one fifty eight yesterday, wow for one
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  Speaker 1: fifty nine. So this is episode one fifty eight. I'm
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: your host, Austin Proctor, and that is your co host
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  Speaker 1: Spencer Lafferman.
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  Speaker 2: Hi.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, the next episode you'll listen to Adventaire is episode
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  Speaker 1: one fifty nine. Go listen to me, say, welcome to
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  Speaker 1: episode one fifty eight right now, So super excited to
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  Speaker 1: talk about this movie and and gory detail. We're gonna
• 2:53
  Speaker 1: give you our rankings on the Halloween franchise as it
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  Speaker 1: currently stands, all the way up to Halloween Kills. We're
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: gonna talk about some Halloween timelines, because there's fucking six timelines,
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: and yeah, there's six of them. I have them all
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  Speaker 1: written down and they're all in order.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. But before we get into all
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: the madness that is Halloween, we've got to talk about
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  Speaker 1: something that just released today. Again, something that just released
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  Speaker 1: today and we watched it. So today is just an
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  Speaker 1: insane day. I'm like brimming with just.
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: Gree over here.
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  Speaker 1: It's a happy day because we finally watched virtually today.
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  Speaker 1: We watched the Monsters, and I don't even have words.
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  Speaker 1: I was so I'm so happy. I'm so happy to
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  Speaker 1: report back very good things.
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  Speaker 2: I hope I listens to any of your podcasts. It's
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: this specific episode because honest, I'm gonna little graphic We're
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: gonna suck this man's dick.
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: Today, trying to suck today's dick.
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  Speaker 2: I warn you express reference.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, as you know, we've explicitly said, well suple
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: of times, how nervous we were, how just very cautious
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  Speaker 1: we were going into this because the trailer did not.
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  Speaker 2: Sell me at all, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: I was not happy with the trailer.
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: Trailer. I think this is it was going into it.
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  Speaker 2: It was the scariest movie, and not because it was scary,
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  Speaker 2: just because I was scared it was going to be.
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  Speaker 1: I had like sweats going on. Man, I was nervous, but.
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  Speaker 2: I think, what fifteen minutes, we're like, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: We're done, We're in. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I told Gabby about fifteen minutes and I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: the nervousness is worn off and I'm fucking loving Yeah. So,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, we went in nervous. And then after
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: like the first scene with Igor and Richard Drake's character,
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: which I can't remember right now because he plays Oorlock
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: and he plays the doctor guy. I can't remember his name.
• 4:47
  Speaker 1: I don't remember his name either, I don't Yeah. Whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Essentially, their their very much's version of like doctor.
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  Speaker 1: Frank's Yeah, because you know he puts together Herman Munster.
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  Speaker 1: But right after that interaction and then we saw Lily
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  Speaker 1: and then I was like, Okay. First of all, I
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: don't know why she was not selling me in the
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: fucking trailer, but she told me in the movie she
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: is rocking that look. She looks great. I actually really
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed her performance. I was most nervous for her. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I completely take back everything I said
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  Speaker 1: from the trailers because I think she did a much
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  Speaker 1: better job than I anticipated. And you know, it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like award winning performances year, but it was solid like
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  Speaker 1: for her though, it was solid.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was not that you know, not and we've
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: said this before in our podcast, not that we hated
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  Speaker 2: her performances Three from Hell, which was her last outing,
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: but it did get a little annoying at times because
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: it seemed like she was going even more more into
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  Speaker 2: that character.
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: Even or not, like she was trying to do a
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: Harley Quinn.
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  Speaker 2: It just didn't work for her. Yeah, but this movie
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  Speaker 2: one redeemed redeemed her for that, not me. Yeah, not
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  Speaker 2: saying she did a bad job, just there was a
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  Speaker 2: she tried to Harley Quinn. She should have just stayed
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: baby from A.
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  Speaker 1: Because she was great in Devil's Reject So but.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, she she nailed the role as Yeah, I
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: think it was great. Uh.
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: I totally forgot for some reason. I was I don't
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: know why. I thought Herman Munster had a lower voice.
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: Because I remember complaining about that when I saw the traite.
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: Well he does, but he doesn't.
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: So he really doesn't because I was watching clips earlier
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: today and he's got a pretty like high pitch, like
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: I'm up here.
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  Speaker 2: Hermann fred Wynn, the actor himself could have a pretty
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  Speaker 2: low voice and something.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was the laugh that I was remembering,
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: because he was like, his laugh was very low.
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  Speaker 2: But the I forgot the actor's name, but the guy
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  Speaker 2: who played Herman in this one nailed laugh.
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Phillips.
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: Was it Daniel Phillips, Daniel Phillips something.
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he nailed it. He because, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I went back because I was like, why does he
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: sound like this? And then I went back and watched
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: some footage of Herman Monster, and I was like, oh,
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: he does kind of have a a pretty high voice,
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  Speaker 1: and then he has that really deep just like looming
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  Speaker 1: laugh and fucking Jeff Daniel Phillips, Jeff nailed the laugh.
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: That laugh was perfect. He was a little like Lime Green,
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  Speaker 1: so that was kind of weird. I wanted him to
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: be a little bit more.
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: Like I think that that has I think that has
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: to do with the whole the movie thing as a
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  Speaker 2: whole is a Rob Zombie.
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  Speaker 1: Was just making it super bright.
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: No, no, that's part of Trevin IMDb. But he filmed
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  Speaker 2: the movie with a higher like higher color contract contrast
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: or something. There's a different word. I mean, if you
• 7:26
  Speaker 2: want to look it up on IMDb to like, no,
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  Speaker 2: exactly what I'm trying to say. But he filmed the
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: movie brighter on purpose.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, here we go. Rob Zombie shot the film with
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  Speaker 1: a heightened color scheme. H quote. I noticed when the
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: actors were in their makeup and they were just walking
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: around getting lunch or whatever, they looked like cartoon characters
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  Speaker 1: come to life. They were just so insanely colorful. I
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: had to light the movie in the same fashion. It
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  Speaker 1: really seemed at all times like a live action cartoon,
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  Speaker 1: which was really exciting. Yeah. Okay, so then there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's why he seemed a little brighter than normal,
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  Speaker 2: because of the extra color put into the movie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, you know, all the performances, his grandpa was
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: fucking hilarious. He was so fucking funny. That was he
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: was played by uh, do do do what's his face?
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Roebuck as the Count. Wait, yeah, the Count, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Roebuck, he was fantastic. Richard Drake was fantastic. Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Phillips was fantastic. And then Cassandra Peterson a k a.
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: Elvira was in this as well, and I loved it.
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  Speaker 1: There's a moment where she's like, you know, Tomorrow's Halloween,
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  Speaker 1: don't be like, uh startled by my appearance. And you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: she's gonna be al Vira. And I won't say what
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: she is, but she's not al Viral.
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  Speaker 2: But like it was really fun. Like the Rob Zombie
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  Speaker 2: really Like it's crazy to think of Rob Zombie as
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  Speaker 2: a comedian. Obviously, he obviously is not a comedian. He's
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, he loves horrid stuff. But like this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and this being his first family film technically.
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: It's his first non uh it's his first movie not rated.
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  Speaker 2: Well and his first family movie. So like there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of aspects of that that made us nervous for
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  Speaker 2: one obviously, but like and he we know he wrote this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure some of some of this was improv maybe
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  Speaker 2: some of it was taken straight from the TV show.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen the show. When God Knows how long
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: to tell you that that's yes or no. But he
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: definitely nailed both the macabre like dark humor that that
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  Speaker 2: that's in the show slash movie and just a humor
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  Speaker 2: in general, like he nailed Like the timing was perfect.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think anything was like every joke sold like.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think every joke. There was not a miss
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  Speaker 2: for me on any of the jokes.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't repetitive. I mean, I mean, okay, there was
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  Speaker 1: some repetitive humor in the way of Herman Monster's dad jokes.
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  Speaker 1: But I love but yeah, I love dad jokes, so
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna love that.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: So they're so bad, I love them.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: I have never laughed that hard in a PG movie
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  Speaker 1: ever died. I don't think I've ever laughed dying. I
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: was the whole time, just like, holy shit, so funny.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: I did not expect it to be this funny, like
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: the first twenty minutes with Count Orlock and uh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like Lily, I was freaking dead.
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like the first like like a first note, Like
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: for the first fifteen minutes or so, you don't even
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: see like the other than the Count, you don't even
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: like notice like the cast isn't in there, Like for
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: the first fifteen minutes, it's like a whole different movie,
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden it enters Lily and
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  Speaker 2: Grandpa and then you know, okay, here we go this,
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: we're getting into it. So like, I thought that was
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: interesting that he he opened it up completely, like without
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: the original three characters that we know of.
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, and then Herman Munster comes into the
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: picture after he's brought to life, and then he like
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: immediately in Jec's hilarity and starts telling jokes right off
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: the bat. It's just it's so much fun. It's also
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: insanely colorful and pretty. I didn't think that kind of
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: like retro style humor would work. I remember us talking
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: about it like I don't think it's gonna work.
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: And then the trailer just didn't sell me, Like this
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: isn't at all like trailer to movie. Completely different experience.
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in a good way though, Yeah, yeah, which which.
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't like that any moviegoers or any
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: movie writer director would would probably want that.
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like it's like nope, this year, you know,
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: I thought I got completely different expectations from that movie.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: So like trailers, this year have been interestingly like interesting
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: and good at the same time.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: Like nope, give us two trailers, and we were like no.
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: In the second trailer, I was not sold actually because
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: it gave more of the movie, which that was all
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: I have sold it. Just the second trailer made it
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: feel more of a comedy.
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I gave away too much, I felt.
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: And then I saw the movie. I'm like, oh, you
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: know what, nothing, Nope, No, I'm fine. That's just how
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: you cut it. It's fine, I guess yep.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: That's how. It's how you do a perfect trailer to movie.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so I have nothing good but good things
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: to say about this movie. I was floored. I did
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: not feel the run time at all. It's an hour
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: and forty nine minutes.
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't feel it at all.
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: In fact, I kept checking it.
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: When it was over. I was like, oh, there's no more,
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: there's not more.
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: I kept checking the time because I was like, fuck,
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: it's almost I was like, damn, it's almost over. I
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: would be like, oh, there's an hour left, there's thirty minutes. Fuck,
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: how are they gonna wrap this up in like fifteen minutes?
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but how they did it? Like I was like, Oh,
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: I kind of wanted more.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, I would have taken the two and a
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: half hours.
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, I was gonna say if he ever
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: rumors like, if he ever gives us the director's cut
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: for that, because he's done director's cut for most of
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: his movies.
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was rumored it was gonna be like
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: two or something like that from.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: What I saw from from his file cut, I'd be
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: along for the ride for the longer cut, I'd take it.
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: I can't. I can't see it rooting in the movie.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: I could see it. Maybe just make it better.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna own that on Blu ray for sure.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: It's in my card already on Amazon. And uh yeah,
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: so I we came up with the same rating today
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: because we both I thought the movie overall was great.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: So a great rating for me is three point five.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: But I gave it an extra half star. And I
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: know people this is gonna probably make people nuts. I
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: gave it an extra half star just like you did,
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: because like, it impressed me so much so much, I
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: was not expecting to be Actually, I we we literally
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: said if this at least gets a two five happy.
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: We were going in being okay with a two five.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: I would yeah, I would have been okay with a
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: two five.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: And we gave it a three star and a half more.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we gave it or we gave it a full
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: star more and then gave it a yeah ye star total. Yeah,
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: so four five five it was awesome. It was so much.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: Really yeah, I think there's only three movies in his
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: and his catalog that I've given four stars or more.
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: Oh really yeah, everything else has been like a three
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: to five.
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: Lords. I was to say Lord's Salem is a three.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: House of a thousand, Corpuses a three five three from
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: Hell and the Monsters are both fours. Halloween and Devil's
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: Rejects are four and a half, and I know I'm
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: probably missing yeah. Oh and then thirty one would probably
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: be like a two and a half.
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So so that's still okay.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: I think I might be missing some, but so that's.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: Still four for seven or eight catalog that I've given.
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty pretty decent rankings. So that's on Netflix right
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: the fuck now? You can go stream that immediately. Every
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: time I see it on Facebook, I just go on
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: about how I liked.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: It because every or just no I mean, I don't
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: want to tell you. Yeah, I almost blind bought it
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: today and I'll even though I was gonna watch it anyways,
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: but uh, I was a best Buy earlier right before
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: we watched it.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: Did I have it?
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, I would have had you pick me up
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: one and just given you cat.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: Well that's what I'm saying. Like I was gonna blind by,
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: and I'm kind of upset I didn't because I wasn't sure.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: I was scared. I didn't want to spend fourteen dollars
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: on something that I definitely like. So so obviously when
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: you're blind by something you've not seen it, we're unsure.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: But this one was one hundred percent like I'd rather watch.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd rather watch for three first.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but now I'm kind of upset I didn't just
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: say fuck it.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: And if the hurricane wasn't hitting us tomorrow, I'd be
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: at best Buy going to get the fucking four k
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: of I know what you did last summer, because that
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: just dropped today.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: Oh it's waiting for me in my mailbox.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: And so I need to go to best Buy whenever
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: the storm clears. I need to get the monsters and
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: I need to get fucking that. Uh, I know you.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: So what I went to Best Buy specifically for today
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: was the uh the Lost Boys and Polter Guys four
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: K because they didn't have it last week when it dropped,
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: because why not? And you know what they didn't have
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: They didn't even have Polter Geys in there. So I
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: asked them, I go, hey, do you have the Lost Boys? Curious?
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Do you have Polter Guys by NHS? Because they came
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: out the same time and the girl goes in the
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: back for about ten minutes, she goes, here's the last
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: one in the back.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck it was it a steel book or
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: was it?
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: It was just a regular Yeah. I honestly like for
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: both of them as a lover's steel book. I didn't
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: really like the art for either of them, so I
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: just got the regular, uh the four K copies because
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: I like those cover arts actually better.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I got the four K Poultry Guess as well.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: I definitely need to watch that soon.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they and they both. I mean I had them
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: both on Blu Ray and I know for a fact
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: the the upgrades for the four K, and they even
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: upgraded the Blue Rays, so like an upgrade remastered.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Blu Ray is a part of Oh nice okay basically, yeah,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: I only had that on DVD, so this is a
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: huge I know, well, I just.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Such a funny. I just bought the Loss this year.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: I just bought the Lost Boys and pulled their guys
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: on Blu Ray this year. Like I finally got him
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: like earlier this year, and then and then they're like,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: oh four K, I go fucking but I have to.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, luckily, you know, I got him be able
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: to use the like half way for like six seven books.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not I'm not mad, but it's like and.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: I know, you know, they both did an upgrade and
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: I know, you know, you know, Warner Brothers track record
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: off from from like older movies from Blu Ray to
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: four K is a pretty decent I wanted talking talking
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: to you the Shining.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah great.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Like Unfortunately, like the Goonies Grimblins, they didn't they didn't
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: do a fantastic transfer onto four K. I mean it
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: looks better than the Blue Ray of course, but like
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: when push goes up for me, I'm just gonna keep
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: the Blue Ray.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah mine as well.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: I mean I have the digital copies in four K
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: so it's I have both.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I've got everything. Just wanted you to know.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just just let you know.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, monsters, Yes, go buy any of those four
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: k's we just mentioned, because they're all worthy of four k's.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Oh the slip I don't know if if Whoever's like.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: For I know what you did, the one slipcover.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: The one slip cover I'm gonna keep for that.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks it looks so nice. They're red is
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: like fucking pops.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Also, and the discs look like that too.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Oh I didn't see the disk.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I just saw that one one of my friends, one
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: of the people I followed TikTok to one boxing and
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: I looked at this, I'm like, oh the beautiful.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about some timelines here all. Actually,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: what real quick? What have you already said? What I
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: was watching with Corey? What if you watched any good
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: uh just anything doesn't have to be horror. If you
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: watched anything good lately on Blu ray on streaming in
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: the theaters.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: What have you seen well in the theater? I mean
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I just saw I saw obviously, you know, Pearl a
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: few weeks when it came out. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I love that one. You heard. I remember you saying
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: it was super good.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, I just watched Man What I just watch Woman King? Well, yeah,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: but I watched something after that because I saw that
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: during the week.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I just saw something else in theaters.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, yes, over the weekend.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: What was it?
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I don't remember.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I got terrible spencer.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a very good person. I got a look.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Hold on, I did.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I did watch Cloverfield last night after having Corey record.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: For your first time.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: No, No, that came out when I was in the theaters.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Called out. Okay, to be fair, though, like there's a
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: lot of movies that you should have seen a while ago.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: You have it yet, So that's why I asked.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: No. Yeah, that that one came out to the when
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I was working at the theater.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Don't worry, Darling, is the one I saw. I remember what.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I couldn't remember it.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, was it not that memorable?
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: No? I won't be watching it again or watch it again.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: That again, sir. Yeah, what'd you give that one?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I just gave it a solid three.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: And that's not a horror movie, right.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: No, I don't, I don't I think it's just listened
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: thriller because it's not. There's no horror at all.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: It's drama, mystery thriller.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's not it's not even going to be
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: included on.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: To be honest, I only gave it a three because
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: of Florence Peugh's amazing performance.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: She's just great in everything. Every time I see her
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: name attached to something, I'm like, this is gonna be great.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, and this is not horror or anything,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: but I don't know. If you saw the remake of
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Little Women with her in it, she's fucking amazing. Like
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean obviously I saw and stuff, but like,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited for her future with just in the MCU,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: just in general. I'm so excited for her future and
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: movies and anything.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: You've seen Fighting with my Family, right, Oh yeah, Oh dude,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: that's such a great movie.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: The first movie I saw her in, so I didn't
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: even know who she was at the time.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I saw that after I had seen mid Simar and
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: after I had been introduced to her, and I was like,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I'm in love with goth Florence Pugh. Oh yes, I'm like, yep, yep, yep, yep,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: souh Yeah, she is great in fighting with my family.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: If you guys have never seen that that are listening,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: check that out. It's got her, it's got the Rock,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: It's got lee Ane Hetty, it's got Vince Vaughan. It's
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: so fucking good Frost. Yeah, it is such a good movie. Yes,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I've already said what I'm watching. So let's
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: talk about some Halloween shiz knit here. We're gonna talk
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: about Halloween timelines. They're six in total, well really technically five,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: but if you include the chronological timeline, then that's six.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: So starting with that one, because that's the first one
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I thought of. Chronological timeline, you have Halloween nineteen seventy eight.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Then you have Halloween two from nineteen eighty one, Halloween three,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Season of the Witch, Halloween four, Return of Michael Myers,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Halloween five, Revenge of Michael Myers, then just Halloween Fuck
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the six. Oh yeah, Halloween Curse of Michael Myers. I
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: think we've got Halloween h two O twenty years Later,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Halloween Resurrection, the rob Zombie reboot, Halloween one and two,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: and then Halloween Reboot again. Slash prequel or Slash sequels,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: So yeah, requel and then Halloween Kills and Halloween Ends.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Thirteen total movies in this franchise. Once Halloween Ends is released,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: after that you have the Carpenter Slash a cod timeline,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and that is Halloween nineteen seventy eight, Halloween two from
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one, Halloween four, five, and then six, and
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: that is the original whatever you want to call it,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Soga saga that Carpenter. That Carpenter did and they really
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: weren't expecting it to go pass. I don't think they're
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: expecting to go past one. Yeah, but they did two,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: and then they did three, and then speaking of three,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: that one is on its own, completely separate timeline. I
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: dubbed the anthology timeline because three was supposed to put
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: in place it was a new Yeah, it was supposed
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: to be anthology movies after three, but three was received
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: so poorly when it came out, and of course now
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: has a huge cult.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Following because because.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they're like Michael Myers bro.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Well, because back then, you know, no one really understood
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: what they were doing, like Halloween.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were trying to do something different, you know
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: what I mean, and.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: No one understood that at the time, which I mean
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I get. I mean when I first saw Halloween Season
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: of the Witch, I thought it was asked too yeah. First,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: but as I got older and realized what they were
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: trying to do and then rewatch it, I had a
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: better appreciation for it because I now understand it's a
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: standalone movie. Just it's just called Halloween.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because if they would have just called it Season
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: of the Witch, dropped dropped the Halloween, especially Halloween three.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was I think that was the issue,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Like they should have just called it Season of the.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Witch, Season the wis Yeah, because Tom Akins is great.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: In that and or even or even reworded it Season
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: of the Witch a hallowe anthology, Yeah, Halloween, like at
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: least or yeah, at least give it some type of
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: context that it was meant to be that. But like
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I understood what they were trying to do, I get.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So that one's often its own timeline all by
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: itself because it actually does reference the first Halloween and
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: like a commercial that says, like Halloween.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Even g w Realie Curtis has a voice over here.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So there's it's kind of meta in a way.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Because they reference it as a movie in that universe. Yeah,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: because I think they say something. I'm pretty sure it's
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: been a minute since I've seen it, but they have
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: referenced like Halloween on tonight or something like that on Channel.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Whatever, something, just a simple call something like that.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: So that is the second, second, or third timeline, depending
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: on how if you include the you know, chronological order.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Then the fourth one that we have here is Loris
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Strode Timeline, Take one, and that is how yeah, yeah,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: hold on take one. Yeah, that's Halloween nineteen seventy eight,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Halloween two, nineteen eighty one, then Halloween age two, oh,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and then Resurrection. So that is one Loris Strode timeline.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Then we have Loris Strode Timeline, Take two, which is
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Halloween nineteen seventy eight, Halloween twenty eighteen, and then kill
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: and then ends. So she has like two separate, two separate.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Because I love the fucking twenty eighteen movie, they're like,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: you know all those subsequent fucking sequels, Yeah, fuck all
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: of they're gone. Yeah, we go Halloween to Halloween.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: That's it, exactly, twenty eighteen, no stop.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: No stops, forty years later, fuck off. And then of
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: course standing alone on its own is the rob Zombie timeline,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: which is Halloween one from two thousand and seven and
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Halloween two from two thousand and nine. So those are
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: all the fucking timelines that I could think of that
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that I'm pretty sure exists.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: No, there's yeah, there's actually a uh somewhere on the
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: internet that actually does exactly what you just did, but
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: in like but in like picture form.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Oh that's cool.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, they have like the posters of each
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: one and had the little diagram of which movies go with. Yeah,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: so basically what you just said verbally, there is a
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: there's like, yeah, there's a visual version of that as well.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's pretty interesting to go through all the
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: different timelines that exists in the Halloween universe. Uh, because yeah,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: there's quite a lot. Uh. But moving on to our
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: ratings of these movies, let me pull up my Halloween
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: ranked list on Letterbox. If you don't have Letterbox, please
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: go check it out. They don't sponsor us, but I
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: really do love them. I really am, I really am
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a fan of the Halloween movies. Okay, where did mine go?
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Did I? Oh? There it is all right? Halloween Ranked
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: all twelve movies, so minus minus ends of course, because
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: that doesn't come out for another two weeks. I will
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: kick it over to you. Let's go start. Let's start
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: from the bottom. Yeah, we're gonna go bottom to top.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Ok So, you're number twelve Halloween six, Curse of Michael Weiers.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, mine would be Halloween Resurrection at one star.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, you want to just tell me the stars if
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: you have. I don't, so, I don't. I it's fine
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: rated all of them.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: That's fine.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Half of these.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're fine, you're fine, but this, but this is.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: How I would have ranked them if I did rate
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: them all in letterbox.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: You're number eleven Halloween Kills. Oh shit, that's way down there.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Oh no, My number eleven is Halloween the Curse of
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Michael Myers.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, you're number ten, Halloween two Rob Zombie Remake.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, we're kind of similar here. Mine would be uh
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: oh and Halloween Curse of Michael Myers was rated one
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and a half for me. My number ten is Halloween five,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Revenge of Michael Myers at two stars. Your number nine Resurrection, Wow,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Resurrection is up there.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, well it's only up there because yeah, it's not
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: a good movie, but I have a lot of fun
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: with it. It's a lot of fun to watch.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: My friend who's been on the show named Michael Myers
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: of The Shameless Picture Show. He has the same thoughts
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: on pretty much that you do. He's like, it's a
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: trash film, but I love it. I have so much fun,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: just like.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: You know, non horror related. But I know, Steve, what
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: soul movies are? Asked when I fucking love the Yearly?
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Oh? I know, oh, I remembered, like well, like the.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Other three are just almost unbearable to watch. Kills is
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: it as bad the second time around? But it was horrible.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: It's still bad.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: But Halloween six I almost could never finish. I saw
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: it's so bad.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I saw someone in the group the other day. It
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: might have been the Screen Factory group. I don't know
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: who it was because I have a buddy who really
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: loves Curse of Michael Myers. But someone was like, yeah,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: they were like, Curzi of Michael Myers is my favorite.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I'm like everyone in the comments like, sir, that cannot
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: be your Like you can have Rob Zombies as your favorite,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you can have Halloween three as your favorite.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I will take I will take Halloween two Rob Zombie
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: as your favorite. Yeah, like like no one's no ones, No,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I mean the directory even even just owned that fucking movie.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: When a director owns it, this owns his own movie.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: You know it's try.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it's not good. My number what did
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: you do?
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I just did Resurrection? So we're on our fifth one.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Now, No, we're not. I didn't even do my number nine.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I did four. No, I mean I just did.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: You just did four?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's yeah, it's my number. Yeah.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: So my number nine is Halloween two, Rob Zombie at
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: a two and a half. Your number eight Halloween five,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Halloween five, Revenge of Michael Myers. Okay, my number eight
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Halloween Kills, also at two and a half stars. Your
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: number seven h two. Oh okay, we're like really close here.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: My number seven is Halloween four, Return of Michael Myers.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: You're number six four? Okay four. My number six is
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Halloween h two. Halloween four for me was three stars
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: h two O three and a half. Your number five, sir,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Season of the Witch. Okay, this is where everyone, if
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: you don't hate me already, this is where everyone starts
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: to hate me. And I'm sorry, you're gonna say the
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: first one, Halloween nineteen seventy eight at three and a
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: half stars. I know this is where everything goes to
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: shit for for most people.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: How dare you?
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I know your number store? There's a podcast on your
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: own bitch out.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Specer out drops like Halloween twenty.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Eighteen, Halloween twenty eighteen, and we're really close. My number
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: four Halloween two, four starsineteen eighty one. Nice. Your number
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: three Halloween two, Halloween two, Yeah, we're like. My number
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: three Halloween twenty eighteen are literally just like.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: A little flip flop. Well, Halloween two and Halloween twenty
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: eighteen are both forced for me. Yeah, I just I
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: just say, I just have them. This is just how
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I ranked them.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're both forests for me as well. All right,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: your number.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Two Halloween youMake Rob Zombie.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: My number two is also Halloween Rob Zombie four and
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: a half stars. And your number one.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I mean the first one, the original at four and
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: a half stars with Rob Zombies about four point five
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: for me.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: My number one, Halloween three, Season of the Witch, Yeah
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: four and a half I know.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Boo, Yeah, we'll see so Halloween two, Halloween twenty eighteen
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: and Halloween three season Witch are all fours for me. Okay,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: so they're basically they're just there. Those are just the
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: order of if I was watching the movie in the
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: order that I ranked them, that's how I would watch them.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, basically, I got you, I got you. So
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: that's our cumulative rankings as of now. Check back in
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: in like a month when we tell you where we
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: placed Halloween inns.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Well, that's actually it's funny because I actually had the
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: first Halloween out of four. But are you watch it today?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Like I watched that and then I watched two was
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: in eighteen, like back to back, and I don't know
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: what it was the last time I watched it was
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: two years ago.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, same, because I guess the.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: First because I guess I didn't watch it last year.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: But uh yeah, for some reason, I just I just
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: liked it even more. I don't know how I collect
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: that movie more, but apparently I did.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: That's what happened to me. I had it. I watched
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: it when I first I think it goes back in
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I rated it on letterbox because that was
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: a year I started. And then the next year, which
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: was twenty twenty I bumped it up like a full
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: star because I had it at like a three, and
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: then I watched it and I'm like, this movie was awesome?
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Why is this not higher? So it's been four for
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: me for a couple of years because I'm like, I
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: really really really liked this movie.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: To me, it's I mean, to me, it's a you know,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I've said this before a multiple podcasts. My one of
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: my all time favorite movies. Honestly, it's probably one or
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: two if I really had to think about it. It
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: got me into horror. It got me in you know. Yeah,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Like I said, it gave me the gateway into horror.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: One of my favorite movies all the time and their time.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: And I could watch it over and over again and
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: not get tired of it. I mean, there was a time,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: you know, like four or five years ago, it came
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: out in the theaters every year around Halloween, and I
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: watched it every year. I didn't care if it was
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: where it was, I was there.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't if it does come back around me,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: it's coming back.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: To it's coming to Regal this year. I don't know
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: if it's coming to am Okay.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: We'll have to go see that then, because I would
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: love to go see that on the big screen because
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I've never seen it on the big screen.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Well, it could still hit AMC. I don't know, but
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: that the only thing that I've heard with the AMFC
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: about horror films is trigger treat on October twenty first.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll keep each other in the loop because
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I would definitely go watch that for sure. Ski oh
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: yeah on the big screen. It's funny too because I
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: remember when I first watched the you know, original Halloween,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: because I had never seen so long. I remember it
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: being like like a two and a half. And then
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I watched and I was like, Okay, I actually really
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: appreciate this movie a lot more, and I bumped it
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: up like a full star, like three and a half.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: It's still a solid rating for me. That's primary.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: That's great.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's primarily what my like, my largest rating
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: is is three and a half. Oh wow, I have
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: exactly five hundred at three and a half stars.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not that I don't like the original.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just something about two Halloween two
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: just I like that one a little bit better, and
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: that one's already out of four. You know, so I
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: like Halloween just a little bit less than this than
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the sequel Fro nineteen eighty one. But all this Halloween
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: talk making me super excited to actually talk about this
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: one here. So unless you have any other things to add,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: let's do this. So we are talking about Halloween from
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, released on October nineteenth of that year in
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: the USA. This is rated R for mild sex and nudity,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: severe violence and gore, obviously moderate profanity. Somehow, twenty eight
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: bucks is only moderate. That's crazy and mild are sorry,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: mild alcohol, drugs and smoking, and severe frightening and intense.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, for that's run. I mean, you
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: gotta think first run time it's less than two hours.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: But if it's spread out through the whole movie, that's moderate.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I know, it's just funny, Like twenty eight that's the moderate.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: My god, what is severe profanity?
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: It takes four to five to actually get the language
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: rated in an R rated movie, So if you take
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: four or five out of there, you only have like
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: twenty two only. Still, I mean, that's not a lot
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: of fucks compared to normal like rated AR movies these days.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: That's true, yeah, where every other word is fuck. This
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: is a runtime of an hour and forty six minutes.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Don't feel any time of that at all. It's a
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: loves by it fucking It's as fast as Michael Myers,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and he's pretty quick. Yeah, you know. Listed as a
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: crime horror thriller directed by the man himself, David Gordon Green,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: who has thirty two directing credits, not acting credits, also
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: did Pineapple Express, Your Highness and Halloween Kills, which was
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: not that great. It's fine. Scott Teams is not doing
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Halloween and so we're good and hopefully written by three.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: There's a hold on written by there's a few people
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: here one two, so it's written by three people. First
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: one being Jeff Bradley, was three writing credits, did a
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: few episodes on a couple of shows. Danny McBride, who
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: has twelve writing credits, also helped do Pineapple Express and
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Halloween Kills and also written by David Gordon Green, who
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: has fourteen writing credits and also did Halloween Kills as well.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Composed by Cody Carpenter, the son of John Carpenter obviously,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: who has who has ten composer credits, also did Halloween
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Kills and fire Starter. John Carpenter, which if you don't
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: know at this point, God have mercy on your soul.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: But he's got over forty composer credits. Also did Halloween
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, Halloween two, basically everything he's directed and written.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: The man is a fucking god. Like, there's not many
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: people that direct, write, and score their own fucking movies.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Also a scream Factory.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw, Yeah, the Monster Movie is his favorite,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Godzilla's I think.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like, that's so cool. You got the legend fucking
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: hosts this. That's awesome.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: But I was kind of upset because they put this
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: teaser out of him like going into the theater and
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: like sitting and I was.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Like, are we gonna get a big collection of it?
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Was? What the fuck are we getting? Not that I'm
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: saying it's not cool, but I'm like, did you have
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: to like get me all? Like juiced up Man and Jazz.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Alredo they know what they were doing.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: I know, fuckers, but I'm still gonna obviously check that out.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Also composed by daniel A Davies, who has ten composer credits.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Also did Halloween Kills and fire Starter cinematography by a
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: man named Michael Simmons, fitting name for the movie. He
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: has fifty cinematographer credits. Also did Halloween Kills. A lot
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: of these people are all working on this trilogy, which
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: is really cool. So for you. Scott Teams starring Jamie
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Lee Curtis is Lori Strode, who has eighty three acting credits.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: You should absolutely know who she is. She dominated the
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: fucking eighties Halloween, Halloween to the Fog, prom Night, Terror
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: trained road games like should I keep going?
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Trading places?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Trading like do I need to keep going?
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: If you're a Disney fan?
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Freaky Friday with I mean like do I need continue?
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Fucking Christmas? With the Cranks?
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Activita commercial commercial like come on? She lies with rs Horsenegger.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: She's done things and stuff. Judy Greer as Karen one
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty nine acting credits, also in thirteen, Going
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: On thirty as Lucy Wyman, aunt Man as Maggie Land
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: and Jurassic World again as Karen.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: She also voices Carol and or Cheryl in Archer.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah she does great show. Andy Mattichak, Oh, sorry, yeah.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Andy Mattichak as Alison, who has eighteen credits, and was
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: also in a movie called Assimilate, And she's also in
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Halloween Kills Haluke Bill Bilginner as doctor Sartaine, who has
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: ye that's a lot, who has eighty seven acting credits.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Was also in Winter Sleep as Aiden and The International
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: as Amatsune. And less but certainly not least, We've got
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Will Patten as Officer Hawkins, who has one hundred and
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: fifteen acting credits. You might know him from a little
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: thing called Remember the Titans as Coach Billy Yost or
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: maybe the Mothman prophecies prophecies, What am I saying? Prophecies
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: as Gordon Smallwood and also The Fourth Kind as Sheriff
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: August the man likes to play a coup.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: He was also in the Last Purge movie.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah that he was, brief briefly, Yes he was. This
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: movie is shockingly had a budget of only ten million
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: dollars according to IMDb, and it makes and it grossed
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty five point six million dollars worldwide,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: which is what you would call a home fucking run.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: That probably that probably that probably definitely funded the next.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Two movies easily.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: And then some. This movie was filmed in Charleston, South Carolina,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: weirdly enough, and you can watch this on Amazon for
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: a three ninety nine rental or fourteen ninety nine purchase,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: or the Blu ray was apparently eight forty two on
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Amazon when I last checked inclu K fuck the four K.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Or you can watch it on Spencer's
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Voodoo for free.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Oh that's a lie. You guys can't see that there.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: No, you can't see that there. But yeah, it does
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: not currently stream. Let me double check my work here,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: because it was a little while ago, probably.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: On a peacock. I would assume a stream because the
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: really that would be, that would be I mean that
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: would you think they would because Halloween Kills slimultaneously went there,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: so was Halloween. Yea, you would think they would just
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: put that one there to prepare miss.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Opportunity, missed opportunity. Let's see here movies that came out
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: around the same time. We've got The House with the Jesus,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: the Cock in the Walls, the House with the Cock
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: and Balls.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure there's a movie out there that's
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: directed by Eli Roth with starring Jack Black called The
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: House of the Cock of the.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Wall House with the Clock in its walls, hell Fest Apostle, Venom,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: A Star is Born, goose Bumps to Electric Boogoloo. No,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: it's kidding. It's Haunted, Halloween, Bohemian Rhapsody, Anna and the Apocalypse, Orverlord,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: The Last Sharknado, It's About Time, Doctor Seuss Is, The
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Grand and Fantastic Bees, The Crimes of Grinderwald, A lot
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: of fucking movies that came out around that time. Let
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: me tell you correct, all right, specific horror moments. What
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: do you have for.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Specific It's the same as my favorite kill? Ooh what
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: is it? It's uh uh it's when is it a
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: spoilery kill? I mean I mean if I if I
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: said specific things, yes, but no, okay, So a cop
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: basically gets his head kicked in like a fucking pumpkin
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: and you see all of it. It's it's horrifying because
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: you see afterwards and it's just like he fucking just
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: stepped on pumpkin and exploded his face.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I hope they used pumpkin goods for that.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Right, that's cool, but yeah, that was that was my favorite.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: That was both okay, So that's okay, So I'll go
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: ahead and do both of mine. My favorite horror moment
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: was the kid's death in the beginning because that that
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: was his first kill, and that really set the tone
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: for the rest of the movie because you're like, I
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: don't because to my knowledge, up until Halloween from two
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: thousand and seven, a kid hadn't died in the Halloween movies.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I can remember, I like, you know, I don't. I
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: can't remember a child dying. I don't know it. I
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: can't remember. But you know, obviously he killed spy kids
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: in you know, Halloween two thousand and seven, Rob Zombies.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: He was probably he was a teenager, but this kid
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: that died was like probably ten or twelve. He was
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: a very young kid. And I was and that's the
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: first person that Mike will that you see kill, yeah,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: because he you know, he injures all the people on
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: the bus and everyone around him, but the first person
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: you actually see him kill as the kid, And I'm like,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: this is going to be a dark Halloween. But then
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: also my other favorite horror moment is Aaron's death because
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: he the ever loving fuck out of his face onto
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: that ball like bathroom stall, and you see it all
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: and I was like, this, yeah, that was this is upsetting.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: And then my favorite kill was the knife directly through
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: the neck.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, and the whole.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: One shot too, because he Michael comes onto the porch
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: and he ben down. You can see his face and
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: the reflection, and then he goes around the house. You
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: can see a silhouette on the wall or on the
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: house next door, and then he just walks and the
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: girl closes the blind and then like he's in and
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: out and then he just walks away. And I was like,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, I was like, oh yeah,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: that's such a great kill.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Did you happen to have a favorite line from the movie.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: There wasn't many. There wasn't many zingers in this.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: But my favorite line, it's not necessarily a favorite line.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: It's more like a like I guess in a sentence,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: but like it's briefly so when Laurie Strow goes into
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: the goes into her her daughter's house, Karen's house, and
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: she's just talking and goes you don't even have a like,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: you don't even locks on your doors. Karen and God,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Karen get it together together. So that kind of that interaction, Yeah,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: my favorite interaction. It was like that was just funny
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: because the Daughters of Karen, you know, the whole Karen shit.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Damn it carry lot. My favorite line was at the
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: very Big or towards the beginning of the movie. It
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: is when Allison's dad's like, peanut butter on my penis like,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, like what why? First of all, you got
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: her on your crutch because you're wearing clothes, You're not
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: bottomless getting peanut butter on your dick. Just don't have
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the dog licking off, for the love of God. So
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I just thought that was so funny because then he
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: says that again. He's like, oh, I gotta go watch out,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: and she's like, Dad, you just need just like.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: He's really bad. He's really bad at the dad jokes.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: It's terrible. That was my favorite line. Did you have
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: a favorite character?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I had one favorite character plus an honorable mention. My
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: favorite character obviously Lori stro love her, okay, yeah, and
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: the honorable mention is the the little uh, the little
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: black kid that.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: The girl Julian Julius so fucking.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Great over your clipping my nasty a toenails.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I gotta go. I gotta go with Julian.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: So funny. As my favorite character. But then I'll I'll
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: throw an honorable mention too, since you caught me off guard.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: But I'll say Hawkins just because I love Willie. Will
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: He is great. Uh did you happen to have a
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: least favorite character?
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, alad boyfriend?
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Oh Cam Yeah? Same, yeah, same, He's a cunt. I
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: don't like him at all.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: And then he's he was even worrise something. He tried
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: to redeem himself in the sequel, which didn't make any sense.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Why why did he survive the first movie? I'm not
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: a fan of that.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't care if he survived, but like, why
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: did she take him back? That's a that's a toxic
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: relationship through your phone? And oh I thought I always
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: thought it was not cheese, dude, I swear to god,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I always thought that was not dude. Watch that thinking
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: it's not your cheese, and you'll know that it could
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: have been. But like, who who does he will put
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: it at a party? Cheese?
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Okay? Was he throws it into some berry liquid?
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, which is doctor cheese. I'm dying, Oh my god,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: damn great for that when it taken.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: To the Green Jesus.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: But yeah, like like so he overreacts because she sees
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: him kissing another girl, which okay to be he got
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: caught red handed, his fault, but he overreacted and he
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: turned it around and he be can't and she's now
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: the bad guy, which is otherable.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: She was she was just talking to me and whispering
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: to me, yeah, yeah, into your mouth with her mouth. Yeah,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: like she saw every part of you kiss that girl.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Like like, I mean, I'm not the brightish tool in
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: the shed, but I know when one lip meets another
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: lip for a couple of seconds there, that's a fucking kiss.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: That's a kiss.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: That's a kiss.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: You kissed that tiger whatever girl.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: You did it, and you would have done it more
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: if you didn't get caught. Yep, son of a bitch,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: shut of a bitch. And she she still took you back. Yeah,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: but you got yours, You got yours.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: IMDb summary. Laurie Stroke confronts confronts her longtime foe Michael Myers,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: the masked figure who has haunted her since she narrowly
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: escaped his killing spree on Halloween Night four decades ago.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Now remember this movie takes place directly at one okay,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: not directly. It is forty yeah, forty years after the
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: first movie, so all those sequels don't exist in this one.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: So yeah, this is literally like two.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is essentially Halloween too, but it's also called Halloween,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: so it's not confused. They well, and they almost they
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I think I have this in the trivia, but they
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: almost name this H four. Oh.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I would have hated that forever.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I didn't. Maybe I didn't write it down.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Oh hey, look here's all the timelines. I didn't realize
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I put that in there. Oh yeah, I could have. Okay, well,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I remember reading somewhere that the four Oh it doesn't work.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: There's no H four. I mean there maybe is an
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: H four Oh, but H.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Two O was so that makes sense that that's.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Some that's some high quality H two oh. So picking
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: up forty years after the hadden Field murders, we have
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: two journalists, Aaron Corey and Dana Haynes. They're going to
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Smith Smith's grow I just developed a list suddenly Smith's
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Grove Sanitarium to interview Michael Myers, who was captured after
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: doctor Samuel Loomis shot him off the Doyle House balcony
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: at the end of Halloween nineteen seventy eight, we are
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: introduced to doctor randbar Startayne, who is Michael's new psychiatrift
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: psychiatrist after Loomis's death. They inform them that Michael's able
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: to speak, but he chooses not to. He hasn't spoken,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: probably since he's been in there forty years, probably forty years.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: He also goes on to say that Michael is his
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: life's work and he hates seeing him go to this
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: new establishment. I don't remember what it was called, but
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: he called it the pit of Hell. Literally, he was like,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: that is the pit of Hell. So Dana is in
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: their podcasters too, so this is about to get super
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: medic since we're on a podcast talking about a podcast.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: So they're doing a podcast and they go to record
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: the events. As Aaron approaches, Michael tries to talk to him,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: but they fail because he doesn't want to speak. Even
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: after he shows in the mask. He's like, you can
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: feel it, Michael, which, let me just say, they would
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: never let that confrontation happen in a psychiatric like place.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: He was essentially like berating him. Yeah, they wouldn't let
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: that happen, but it was kind of necessary for the
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: story because right as he's screaming at Michael, it just
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: cuts to the intro and it, dude, like the fucking
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: music cuts in. And I love the title sequence too
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: because it's the pumpkin like reanimating itself.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a perfect like symbolic symbology for
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: these movies.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because in the first in the original Halloween, the
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: pumpkin is uh, it's like melting, right, doesn't it?
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, it does it appear, yeah, And that's why I
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: thought it was a perfect symology.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I really love that into and of course
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: a score back with John Carpenter. It's been updated. It
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: sounds new new age, it sounds super good. I also
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: thought it was really interesting to see an old Michael
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Myers without the mask on. You kind of see like
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: you see like kind of the side of his face.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: You actually see a lot of his like face in
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: this movie because even when he passes by the stalls,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: you can see his face. So they really get close
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: to show in his face, which is really interesting. Especially
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: in Halloween Kills, which I was not very happy about,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: they like show his face straight.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Up, so the way they did it in Halloween twenty eighteen,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: they never physically like show his full face. A something's
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: always obstructing it, but you still I mean his face,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: but like if you were trying to paint his face,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: you couldn't because you couldn't see his full right. But
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: in Halloween and Halloween kills it like fucking his entire
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: his entire face will be sure. Yeah, like okay, which
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I mean in any Helloween movie, you never fully see
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: his face. You always see bits and pieces of me.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: You'd never see his full one. And that's that was
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: That was strike one for that movie from him. I'm like,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: strike one, you got two more. And it didn't take
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: very long for them to strike me.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Strike it out, strike me again, strike me down. So
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: after they leave, so they leave Smith's growth and they
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: go to drive to Laurie's house, which is like super
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: heavily fortified. It's kind of decrepit a little bit as well,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: and they ask, you know, hey, we need to try
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: to find Lori and she like doesn't answer and like
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: we've got cash, and then she just lets them ride
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: in immediately. So I thought that was a great little
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: humor that they added in. So she's been through some shit.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: She spent the last forty years with like PTSD from
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: the whole event, and she's like waiting for him to
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: come back. Her feelings have resulted and two failed marriages
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: and losing custody of her daughter Karen at a very
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: young age. Uh. This is when they tell Laurie that
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: their interest is finding out why Michael committed the murders
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy eight, because it's never explained why he
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: did that. He just he went crazy, got it, got institutionalized,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: and that was the end of it. So they want
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: to know why he did it, and they want them
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: to meet in a final attempt to get him to
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: speak before he's transferred to the maximum security prison because
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: once he's transferred then it's game over, like they're not
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: going to be able to get in contact with him.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: But she kicks him out of the house, but does
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: take the money.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Smart move, yeah her little Uh.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I thought that was true, habits. Yeah. The
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: whole ending scene is just is just wonderful. So they're
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: preparing transport and let me just go ahead and say,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: why the fuck are they always moving Michael Myers on
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: fucking Halloween?
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Why right?
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Why everyone knows about the legend and.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: The Lord day before a day later, none of this
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: would happen.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: But every fucking Halloween. It's Halloween night, we're moving the
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: freak like God damn it. But doctor Sartaine insists on
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: being on the bus to accompany Michael, so he gets
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: on the bus they head off end of the night.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Then we go to Haddonfield, where we see Lorie's granddaughter
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: and Karen's daughter Alison. She's walking to school with two
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: friends and telling them about the stress that her family
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: indoors due to her grandmother's past. And uh, they say, well,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: why don't you just skip past Halloween and where you
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: know Christmas sweaters? And that's why Judy wears Christmas sweater.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: It's at Halloween. And then they debunk the whole thing.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: That roomy, roomy, that the rumor that Michael is Lourie's brother.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: So and in this iteration, you know, in this, in
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: this timeline, they're not brother and sister at all.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: As of right now, they're not related. I say that
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: because the new trailer gives some type of weird vibes
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: that they could be spiritually related somehow.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean it wouldn't It wouldn't surprise me
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: if they brought some spiritual ship into there because you know,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Halloween two did that. Like maybe maybe rob Zombies.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Maybe try to do what Halloween six, Yeah, trying to
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: do but correct, Yeah, exactly, Like I won't be surprised
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: if they do that because there are and I'm not
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: going to say anything, uh from the trailer's case listeners,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet yet or want to wait,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: but there are some dialogue choices that Laurie says in
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: the trailer that makes me think they're somehow connected but
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: not necessarily related.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: If we have time at the end, I'll tell you
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: my three theories that I have on what's gonna happen.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: So later in class, we see Alison looking out the window,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: sees Laurie out there. She goes to meet with her
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: grandmother and she gives her the three thousand dollars that
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: she got from Aaron and Dana AND's like, go have fun, kid, Like,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: damn three grand Okay, I'll take that. And then later
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: at dinner Karen's family, Karen, Allison and her family are
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: there with Cameron. She arrives there and just picks up
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: the glass of wine and starts chugging it. Karen's like,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: you quit drinking. She's like, let me finish this, and
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: then she kind of has a panic attack over this
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: whole situation because she's stressed out about Michael and you know,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: she hasn't found out that he's moving just yet, but
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: she's just stressed because it's this time of year, and
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Allison is the only one that seems to care about
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: her her feeling because she's real. She's the only one
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: that like comforts her and tries to be there for her.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Everyone else just kind of is like, mom, like can
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: you can?
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I also think, you know, because it also seems like
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: the mother Karen is trying to, you know, keep Alison
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: at a distance, yeah, because she's gone, and which is understandable,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: but that sometimes will bring the rebellion or the rebellious
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: side out on that person. And then that's where I
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: think this is coming from, which isn't a bad thing,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: because you know, it's always nice to have somebody that
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: sympathizes over the old crazy lady, which is what they're
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: they're showing Loris Strode as right.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, she's kind of old and crazy, but I mean, hey,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I get it. You know, a PTSD from something that
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: happened forty years ago, i'd be a little at crazy too.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: So while this is going on, the bus transport crashes
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: into a ditch. We see security guards killed, inmates are
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: scattered about the road, and a man and his son
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: that are driving down that road happen upon the bus
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: and they start to investigate while the father disappears wherever
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: the fuck he goes, I don't even know. The son
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: grabs a rifle from the truck, encounters this fatally wounded
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: guy who's like, run, just get out of here, and
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: he doesn't, doesn't take that warning and then goes on
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: to the bus to investigate, and doctor Sartan pops outs
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: like don't shoot. The kid just fucking shoots him in
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: the shoulder like he just said not to shoot.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: And the kid's like, ah, I I know.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: It's just funny. Don't shoot. Bam. Kid runs off the bus,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: fleeing to the truck, calls the police. Michael appears from
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: the backseat and just bashes him up against the wall
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: or the window and kills him. This when we see
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Will Patton show up, Sheriff Hawkins. He comes up to
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: the crash site. Doctor Sartan says like he's escaped, and
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: then Hawkins, like fucking who who escapes? And then it
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: cuts to the next day. We see the podcasters going
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: to visit the grave of Judith Myers, which is a
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: very common occurrence in these movies. I know what happened
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: in the rob Zombie remake. I'm pretty sure it happens
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: in the original Judith Myers' Grave. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: it's really this is a really cool shot. I really
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: enjoy when they go to the grave and they're kind
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: of recording this little episto or like snippet for the podcast.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: You can see Michael. They have like a shot of
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: him where he's out of focus, but you can see
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Aaron and Dana in the distance, and you know he's
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: watching them, like watching them look at his mother's graves.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: So we know this point, Okay, I guess he's tracking
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: them down because he had he knows that they have
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: his mask, and he wants that ship back now that
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: he's escaped.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: So I love how subtle this movie is, but they
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: do it in such a good way. Yeah, it's the
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: same thing. Next we see Sheriff Hawkins talking to a deputy.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: It's that dude with the awesome cowboy hat. Yes, he says,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Michael Myers is escape the transport and will most likely
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: return to Haddonfield to finish when he started forty years ago.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: And it's really cool because after that scene, when Aaron
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: and Dana arrive at the gas station that they pull
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: up to, it's real quick and I just noticed this
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: on this watch through. I don't know how I missed it,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: but Aaron's pumping gas and you can see Michael in
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: the background all in white, just passed through and then
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: it cuts away and I was like, oh shit, So
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: you're like, okay, this is not gonna be good. Dana
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: goes to the bathroom and that is when Homie comes inside,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: you know, kicks in the door, like pushes in the doors,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: finally gets to her door. A huge brawl ensues. Aaron
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: goes into the gas station to pay for the gas,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: comes across the dead guy is like, oh shit, where's Dane.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I need to go find here, tries to go rescue her,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: but then they both just die a brutal death. It's
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: not good and.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: Not a horror scene or anything. But one of my
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: favorite favorite way that it was shot and everything's after
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: all that is when he goes to the trunk and
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: gets the mask. Oh yeah, dude, how with the music
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: and just it was probably my favorite shot of the movie.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's everything, just like when he does it and
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: robs AMI's Halloween when he picked when he breaks the
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: floorboards and then the music starts and he picks it
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: up and looks at it in the light and then
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: puts it on. You're just like, oh, it's time.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: And it gives me the same vibes as the Friday
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: thirteenth when he first flinds the mask. Yeah, here we go, Like, yep.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Here we go. So yeah, he goes to the back
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: of their vehicle, puts on the mask, and you know,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: it's it's on, like Donkey Kong. Now he's got the mask,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: it's game over.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: This is when Laurie learns about the transport and the crash,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: breaks into Karen's house to demonstrate her lack of security,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: which is your favorite seeds. Yeah, it's so great. And
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: then she's like, you don't even hear the back the
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: window was unlocked. That came.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: And the guy's like is that good? Like yeah, what
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: the fuse is?
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Like it's a popsicle. So yeah, she demonstrates a lack
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: of security and after a brief argument about Michael with
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Karen and her husband Ray, Uh sorry, Lori leaves and
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: heads to the gas station, just in time to witness
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: the bodies of Aaron and Dana being recovered. And this
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: is when Hawkins says to the other deputy with the
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: with the with theboy hat. He says, Okay, we've got
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: one goal, and it is to hunt this man down,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: like we have to find this guy.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I love that that guy's back in this said the trilogy.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: The trilogy love it.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: I love it. And then it's then we cut to
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Halloween night. Michael is in hadden Field. It's walking the
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: streets in his whole get up. It's literally families and triggers.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: He finds his way into his shed and I love
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: this shot because he's going down the street and then
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: he looks to the right and then it's just a
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: one shot of him going grabbing the hammer, and then
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: he goes inside, beats the shit out of this woman
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: off camera, but you can hear everything. And then he
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: sees this big butcher knife obviously, replaces the hammer with
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: the knife, walks out the door. Actually sorry, you hear
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: a crying baby and he goes into that room and
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: you're like, don't, don't do it, and then he just
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: he walks past, don't worry, child, stays alive, walks out
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: the door, goes down the street, and then goes into
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: the neighbor's house. And this is that really cool scene
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: that I like where he goes up onto the porch,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: drops down, seizes, you know, you can see his mask
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: in the reflection of the window, goes around knife to neck,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: and then we you know, we go to the next shot.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Still in that one shot, you don't see it, but
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: you hear it. So in that shot you actually hear
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: a dog bark, and then all of a sudden you don't.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, he actually still kills a he ges
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: a dog in almost every movie.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Oh shit.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so that one shot scene, like you hear
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: a dog bark. Yeah, and it's it's that that girl
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: that he kills his dog.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Oh shit.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: So when he goes intside before he kills her, he
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: kills the dog because the dog's not barking.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Were like, I didn't even notice that. Very nice, Okay,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: but yeah, there's a there's some pretty good one shots
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: in this and where they where they do like tracking
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: shots where they follow it. It's not it's not even necessary.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: It's so good though, but yeah.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Like like I mean Halloween kills a side, David Bordergreen
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: knows what the fuck he's doing.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he really does.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: And it's not like the Halloween kills. The movie didn't
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: look good. It was just written like ass.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: I think that was his highest kill count though he
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: killed like oh yeah, like twenty three.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Or something like that was at the end of the Yeah.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he killed a lot of people in that movie.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was his highest kill count, which I mean,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not some of the kills and that were brutals,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: fucking I like that, but I just think the things
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: surrounded by the kills just sucked. Yeah, the story, like
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: I understand what they were doing, but also it just
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: it just wasn't great.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: It's it's really for me. It was the how many
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: times they said evil eyes to night. I hated, uh,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: what's his face? Fucking Tommy could not stand his character,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: and I hated that whole plot where they were chasing
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: down this guy thinking he was Michael Myers and then
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: they and you know what they do what they do,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: and I'm.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Like, and I can not even the same size what
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: like at first, like I understood that, but like, what's
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: the actually got a view of him and see that
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: this guy's he's shorter, he's he's built different, like he's
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: he's he's he's a little bit more like overweight.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's stocky and short.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. The act I mean, I mean, hell, Nick Castle,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: the act in the place was what like six four
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: six f He's.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, Nick Castle and a Courtney gew What I believe.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Is they're both like, yeah, this guy was maybe five
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: eight five nine.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're like what the fuck? So that just
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: it just didn't work.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: But but I did understand that scene specifically because it showed,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: if anything, that and this is why I liked it
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: better the second time. Still didn't love it.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Still, you know, it just showed how brainwash people were.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: It shows that if you get one person, like like
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: you know that that the game telephone, Yeah, one person
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: says something by the top against the other that's completely different.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: It just shows me as a society, if they're all
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: after the same thing and you just shout out hey
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: over there, they're all gonna do that, and their mind's
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: clouded no matter if they see who they want to
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: see or not like the just they want to think
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: what they think, and and that actually showed a lot
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: of realism of what people are today. So so as
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: weird as it is, I thought this movie was more
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: of a social more like a social uh.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Had just like social commentary?
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Yea, this movie was more of a social commentary in
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: between eighteen in this one, which if you go in
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: thinking that, like I mean, yes, the whole evil dies tonight,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: I think is just like that.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I swear if they say that one time, this
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: goddamn movie.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: By your evil, don't you dare?
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Don't you?
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Don't you finish that set?
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Don't you finish? Don't you do it? I you?
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: But as I feel like this movie was more of
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: a social commentary as in what certain people can make
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: other people think because because that's what they want to think,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: that's what they want to believe. And that's where I
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: think that scene as when you're writing that, that's where
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: that was important. They just did it a really poor way.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Of Yeah that does that doesn't make a lot of sense.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: So I can see then you're rewatching. I'm sure you'll
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: re watch it one day. Maybe not.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna I'm gonna because I watched this one,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: you know, it's fresh in my head. I'll probably watch
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Halloween Kills next week and then because then the next
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: week after we want to see end. So watch one
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: a week.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: So so go in the second time as a social
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: commentary movie with Michael Myers, you might enjoy it better.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: Like I see, like it didn't change my rating, but
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: I did have a better time watching it. I didn't
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: feel like turning it off at home. I feel like this,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: I wanted to walk the fun out. Yeah I know
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: I got to walk out.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: No, I don't walk out either, but I was.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Like, but yeah, go in that way, and you might like,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: All right, I will. I will do that. I'm definitely
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it probably next Friday or something like that. Uh,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: in between all of my thirty one days of horror.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. So back to the movie. After Michael
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: has killed that girl execution style through the throat, which
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: is crazy, and her dog apparently, we cut to Alison,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: who's at the school function Halloween party with her friends,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: receives a call from Vicky. Vicky's her friend. She's inviting
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: her over to come hang out once Julian, the kid
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: that she's babysitting, falls asleep, and Vicky mentioned something about
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: like Alakazam or something like that, and then once she
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: hangs up, Julian's like, I know you're smoking weed. I
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: know I'm gonna tell on you. And she's like, I'll
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: show your mom your Internet history and he's like, son
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: of a beachche toche Vicky. So they dropped the you know,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I won't rite on you, you won't write on meat.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I loved it was so great, which is funny because
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: it really reminded me of Lori Showed and Tommy from
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Rob Zombie. The the relationship. It was so funny.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: This is when they get into the alter Kate, Allison
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: and Cameron get into the altercation. That's you know, he
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: kisses the tiger at the Halloween party. She clearly sees
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: and he's like, oh you didn't. I don't know what
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: you thought you saw. But she was just talking to me, like,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: you know, really close, and it's revealed that he's been
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: drinking at night, so he's not thinking straight and then
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: he gets she gets a call from fucking her grandma,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: from Lord Strode, and he's like, you know, what your
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: pressures little phone? Bam ch not choch's pudding. Yeah off,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: And she's just like okay, Dick, like great, thanks for that.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: And then of course after she's storms away, he's like like,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: no shit, you dummy dude, going down here. Almost done?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. This is when Dave arrives over at Julian's.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Dave is Vicky's boyfriend, and they're like just about to
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: do it because Julian's up in bed. They hear a noise,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: so she's like, go investigate the typical I don't want
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: to go, you go. So he goes to walk upstairs
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: and Julian's like bolting down the stairs like I saw
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: a man in my doorway, and Viggie's like yeah, yeah, sure,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: sure share, I'll go look. So she goes into the room,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: acts like somebody's there, and then like pops out, scares
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: the shit out of him, and then that's when she
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: puts him to bed, and she goes to close the
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: closet door, but it like gets stuck on some so
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: what the So she pulls the door open and then
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: the music's like but fucking Mike Michael comes out swaying
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: that fucking knife and I think she gets her. Julian
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: runs downstairs. He's like, I'm gonna go call the cops.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: But Alison does not make it. She gets dragged back
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: in by her.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: But I was a little sad, like like like why
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: I get it, but like, yeah, she did.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Do anything, but that's just to show how ruthless he is.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: But also it just goes hand in hand with the
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: original title of this movie murders exactly, like it was
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: more of an homage to the original if you think exactly.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: But I still was like, that was probably like a
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: death that I really didn't want to happen.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't need to happen. So she doesn't make it.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: And then Laurie is out patrolling the streets in her trucks.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Of course she's got a ceebee radio. She intercepts the
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: call that you know, like they they call Hawkins because
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Julian called the police, so they call Hawkins out. She
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: hears that and she heads to the house as well.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: There's also a nice little Halloween three reference when you
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: see the kids in the witch mask, the pumpkin mask
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: and the skeleton mask walking down the street real quick.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Which is cool, yeah, which we continue they did that
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: also kills. So I wonder if we're gonna also see
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: that and ends like that, Yes, that'd be cool to
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: you with the connect with like, you know, three being
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: at all three of them.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: I really hope that that'd be cool. So there's a
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: cool little Halloween reference there. Uh. This is when Laurie
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: shows up outside the house. She gets out of the car,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: She's like, everybody, get out.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: She's waving dirty Harry gun around. It's the crazy old
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: lady like everybody.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Hawkins finds Vicky's corps under his sheet with two I
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: holds cut out. I don't know where Michael found the
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: time to do that, but I mean, hey, he's having
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: fun pumpkins in the fish tank. Yeah, she didn't make it.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: But Laurie is outside and she sees Michael in a window.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: She goes to shoot at him, and she realizes, oh,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: I just shot a mirror fuck that wasn't actually him.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: And then Michael like swiftly goes past Hawkins down the
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: stairs and he's like Michael, everyone's fucking blasting off shots.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: But he makes it past Hawkins all the way down
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: the stairs. Laurie and Hawkins going hot pursuit behind the
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: houses to find Michael, Laurie shoots him one good time,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: but as she turns the corner, Michael's gone. And this
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: is probably my favorite interaction when Hawkins comes up behind
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Laurie because she just pops him yes, and he's like,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: what the fuck? What are you doing?
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: Mine?
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: So good? A bunch of police cars arrive on the
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: scene at the house make a perimeter. Doctor Sartagne shows up,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: talks to Hawkins about Michael. He's gonna just essentially keep
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: killing and killing and killing till he gets caught. Sartagnan
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: then sees Laurie introduces himselves like I read everything about
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: you not creepy at all, to which her response is,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: have I told you what I prayed about every night?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: They're like, what, I prayed that Michael would get out,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: and they're like why. It's like so I could kill him.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: And then she fucking walks away.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, boss, lady, what Mike drop?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah? And then and then of course Hawkins like, well
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: that was it. That was a terrible thing to wish for.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: So Alison is ditch your boyfriend at this part at
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: the party, She's like, fuck you, I'm leaving, goes home
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: with her friend Oscar, who tries to like he advances
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: towards her and she's like no, no, no, and then
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: of course he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, am my bad.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Did not mean to let you know you're not with
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: whatever Cameron anymore. I thought you know, I thought you
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: were sending vibes, and she gets very upset she leaves. Fortunately,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Oscar does not make it because Michael's in the yards
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: like looking at him, stalking him. He goes to climb
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: over this fence and then gets impaled through his jugular
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: gorgeous such I wish you would have seen it happen,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: but it's still cool to see the after, So he
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: he does not make it at all, and then he
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: sees Alison, of course and tries to chase her, but
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: then she finds refuge in a neighbors home. And then
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: this is when Karen and Ray arrive at Lorie's fortified
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: crazy house, waiting for Alison to arrive to get there
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: because that's where she's going. Hawkin then encounters doctor Startayne
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: and in turn finds Allison in their hunt for Michael.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: So Hawkins, Sartaine, and Alison are together and they're gonna
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: take Alison to Laurie's house and on the way there
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: they see Michael in the street and what do they
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: do Florida for it? Hell yeah, and they just blast Michael.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: They run like they hit him. He falls to the ground.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Hawkins rushes over to him and gets out of the vehicle.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: I think he think he shoots Michael at point blank range,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: I believe, or he goes to shoot him or something.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: I think I think he goes too. But then doctor
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Sartayne is like laying on the ground next to Michael
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: and has this pin that turns into a knife, and
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh shit, he's gonna just stab Michael in
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: the eye. But he fucking turns around and stabs Hawkins
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: crazy twist, like crazy twist stabs Hawkins. Hawkins goes down Michael.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: Doctor Sartagne loads Michael up into the back, puts on
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: the mask, gets in the cop cars driver's seat, and
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: is like, all right, it's reunion time, bitches. I'm taking
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Michael to LORII. And you're like, oh, god's where I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: leave it.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: That's where I want to go, but not are these circumstances.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I'll leave it. Because I totally forgot
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: about that watching this, I was like, oh, yeah, that's right, Like, oh,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: he just goes unhinged. Yeah, that's where I'll leave it,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: because it does so crazy from there. The whole ending,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: the whole third act is just a fiery, awesome, fucking
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: beautiful disaster. I love it. It is so good. I don't
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: believe there's an after credit scene or mid post scene. Okay,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: there's not taglines. Here. We go face your fate, simple
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: and easy. Forty years later, Evil returns home. You don't
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: believe in the Boogeyman, you should and trick or treat?
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: I mean a trick or treat like that makes sense?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Love it? Trivia here we've got on the TV. A
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: newscaster can be heard describing the events of the original
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: film as the Babysitter Murders.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: This was originally the title Carpenter wanted for Halloween nineteen
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: seventy eight. It was the Oh Sorry. It was only
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: changed to Halloween after the producer Irwin Yoblins thought of
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: the idea and to release it near Halloween, which honestly
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: I like to change. I do like it. A radio
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: call coming over the police band mentions a disturbance at
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: seven oh seven Meridian, a tribute to the real life
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: address of the Myers House house and Halloween before it
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: was moved. A few blows down. Two kids bump into
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Michael before he grabs a hammer from the garage. One
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: kid is shouldering a toy boombox, a tribute to his
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: scene in Halloween two nineteen eighty one where Michael Dick
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Warlock is bumped into Dick Warlock's real life son Lance Warlock,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: carrying a boombox name that's a great name.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: The gas station is almost an exact replica of the
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: gas station prominently appearing in Halloween for the return of
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Michael Myers. Down to the ice box outside. We've already
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: talked about the five distinct timelines, so I won't go
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: over that. Got some pretty interesting goofs here. Although the
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: film is set in northern Ireland, there are numerous palm
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: trees and cypress trees which can be seen in the background,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: which are native to South Carolina. Neither tree, wait, neither
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: tree what oh? Numerous palm trees and cypresses. Sorry, neither
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: of those grow in Illinois. In the asylum courtyard, the
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: patient charted chain to stationary cinder blocks. The safety perimeter
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: around each patient is marked with a large yellow square
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: to match the checkerboard groundcover. As chains can move through
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: sixty degrees, the safe area should really be a circle though,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: because yeah, you know, so little things here and there,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: the secret Oh that's kind of a spoiler. I won't
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: say that. Umm, oh yeah, here's a kind of a
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: plot hole. Because how the fuck did Dane and Dana
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: and Aaron get Michael's original mask for an interview with him?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: It was confiscated, presumably when he was arrested, and would
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: forever be locked up in evidence locker, so the two
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: reporters would not be able to grab that. Uh. This
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: would be the real life equivalent of trying to get
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: John Wayne Gacy's clown costume from the evidence locker for
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: whatever reason. So that is my biggest issue with this movie,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: like how did they possibly get that? There's no way
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: they would have been able to get that because they
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: never explain how they get it. They just have it,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: I never even like, yeah, until this very moment, I've
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: never even thought about it. I just went along with it.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: That's always been my biggest issue. But I mean, like whatever,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fucking.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Is it real one? Though maybe they just said that
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: and it's actually just a replica.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: They found out it could, yeah, but they never explained
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: anything about it. So that's that's the only thing. It's like,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: they don't explain, like this is a fake or this
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: is the real one. But it's like, yeah, how they've
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: gotten that? And then again, yeah, para journalists would never
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: be able to allow to speak to patients in a
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: psychiatric facility that holds murders much less aggravate than in
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: the manner shown in the film. So just little things
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: like it's not like it's not gonna affect my, like
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: how I feel about it. It's just funny to like
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: little small things you're like, oh yeah, that probably would
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: never happen. Rated six point five out of ten on
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: IMDb and a three point three out of five on Letterbox.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: We both gave it fours solid fucking movie, a very
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: good entry in the Halloween franchise. I am super ecstatic
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: to go see Halloween Ends. Oh and you know what
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: we've got some time. Let me give you my theories.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Here, all right.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: I mean there's really only three outcomes anyways, when you
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: think about it, there's only three either Laurie's okay, So
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: this is this is my best guess for what's gonna happen.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming Laurie's gonna have to like sacrifice herself, and
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: then I'm assuming that Michael's gonna die. But then in
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: the final shot, they're gonna pull a Halloween two where
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: he's got you know, like you can see the imprint
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: of him in the ground where he's gone up and left,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I think they're both
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: gonna be dead, but then it's gonna be like cut
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: to a shot where he's gone now and you're like, fuck,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: he's still alive, yeah, or Michael's gonna die or Laurie's
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: gonna die. Someone's dying.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they're both gonna die.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: I think they're both gonna die, and because.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Like I said, there's certain things die like well a,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: I think they're just both gonna die because poetic honestly,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: like she's on through all this shit, but she's going
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: to take him with her.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I think is gonna happen.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: Like I think they're both gonna like stab each other,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: like like she goes to stab him and then all
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: of a sudden she or he goes to stab her,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: and you're like, oh god, she's dying. He's fine obviously.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden she stabs him, and it's
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: gonna be like a like they're both just gonna kill
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: each other in Tubo scenario.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the only way that you can. I think they
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: have to kill him in an epic way though, because
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: they have to. They have to like cut his head
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: off if he's actually gonna die, because I mean, how
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: many times has he died? Just like Jason, so many dies.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: And which which is This is where I think from
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: like the connection between them both if she dies, he
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  Speaker 2: actually will die because connected.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the spiritual the spiritual connection, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think if they go that route, that's and that's when
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  Speaker 2: she says specific dialogue in the trailer, Yeah makes me
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  Speaker 2: think spirited.
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  Speaker 1: Connection, which I'd be okay with.
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  Speaker 2: So I think she knows, like like maybe she comes
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  Speaker 2: to the realization throughout the movie that maybe like right away,
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  Speaker 2: but like throughout it, like maybe like the third act
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  Speaker 2: she's like.
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  Speaker 1: Fuck, the only yeah, the only way to do this
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  Speaker 1: is yeahs.
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  Speaker 2: Or like maybe like or maybe there's a scene where
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: she gets hurt and she she sees somehow he also
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: got hurt, like like you know in the movie Freaky
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  Speaker 2: like how they both got stabbed. Yeah, like excuse me
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  Speaker 2: something like that. Maybe not as silly, but something in
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  Speaker 2: that realm to give the audience. Also they're connected somehow,
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  Speaker 2: and this is her realization to where if she dies,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: he finally dies and it actually does end.
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  Speaker 1: And this is the weird thing too about this one
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  Speaker 1: is this one takes place four years after Halloween kills,
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  Speaker 1: so he's been in hiding, like Curse of Michael Myers
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  Speaker 1: Die where he was hiding first a couple of years
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: and wash Sewer something like that, but that was cursed, right,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: he was hiding like with that guy who was like
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: like yeating him alive.
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  Speaker 2: Curse, right, And that's where I'm thinking they're going to do.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: They're taking some ideas from Curse but doing them correct. Yeah,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: And that's where I think the connection just not so
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: rapey and weird. Yeah.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say maybe not so much rape and weirdness.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's no way they could do that, but but
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  Speaker 2: I think they're gonna take because if you think about it,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: so far in this trilogy, the two out of three
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: we've gone they've taken ideas or paid homage to even
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: though they're not connected to any of the other Halloween
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: except for the very first one in seventy eight. They've
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: taken ideas and stuff and twisted it theirself. So that
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: being said, with the all the dialogue, Laurie says in
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: this new trailer, with the opening sequence of where he's
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: been the four years, what happened without really like without
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: like spending too much time explaining where he's been. Yeah,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: that's what they do. They pull that without the whole
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: you know, man had, like the whole weird science stuff,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: but like do it like I'm very I'm strongly thinking
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: they're gonna do six but.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: Correctly, Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Because honestly, if this would be my last movie in
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: this franchise, to do this, I would want to do
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: it right, and I would want to try to write
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: as many wrong as possible from previous movies, even though
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: it's not connected. I would want to give the audience
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: the satisfaction of what could have been done right. Yeah,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: So for me, like if this physically, if this ends
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: David Gordon Green's trilogy, which obviously he's working on, the
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: extras trilogy. Now, obviously he's not gonna do any more
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: of this. I would want to do it as it's
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: the long side of the three. It's just pushing two hours,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: so like, so there's plenty of time to explain extra
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: things because there's all because I mean there's because there's
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: so there's not much more you can really do. Now
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: that's literally it's literally Laurie versus Michael before it before
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: in the first one it kind of was just Michael
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: getting his mojo back in a sense right after forty years.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: Second one it was him on a rampage, and third
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: one it's now the title fight.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: Yep, it's happening.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: It's going now, And so they want to do it
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent right and justice because I'm also sure
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: David Gordergreen has heard the reviews.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: For Yeah, yeah, it's not they're not great, so I
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: assume they're gonna want to do some redeeming.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: So I'm one hundred percent thinking they're going to do
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Elements of six correctly. Yeah, that's what I'm going I'm
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: going with.
• 1:16:30
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• 1:16:32
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• 1:16:35
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• 1:16:46
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