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The Rita Panahi Show | 3 December · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scolds as Kodia.
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Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show.
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Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panicky Show. Coming
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Speaker 1: up tonight. Foreign billionaires funneling money to a taxpayer funded
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Speaker 1: activist body to block Australian energy projects, The unintended consequences
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Speaker 1: of Labour's under sixteen social media band.
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Speaker 3: Senator Alex Antik will join me shortly to discuss Queensland
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Speaker 3: Premier David Prisso Fooley under pressure to review.
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Speaker 1: The state's radical gender laws, and will take a close
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Speaker 1: look at the extraordinary scope of the Hunter Biden pardon
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Speaker 1: and what it means for President Joe Biden's legacy.
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Speaker 3: Josh Hammer will join me shortly and Left.
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Speaker 1: Is Losing It features I rate hosts of the View
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Speaker 1: having to issue yet another correction under legal advice.
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Speaker 4: Of course, I have a fairy quick smart and it's
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Speaker 4: not got be that quick. Pete had said has denied
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Speaker 4: any wrongdoing.
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Speaker 1: But first, it's early in the week, but we've already
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Speaker 1: had two apologies. We've had one from the foreign to
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Speaker 1: owned Australian venue company, the nation's second largest pub group,
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Speaker 1: has apologized for its anti Australia Day activism. I'll be
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Speaker 1: speaking to Senator Alex Antick about that shortly, about whether
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Speaker 1: we should accept that apology and how to counter corporate
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Speaker 1: virtue signaling. And this week we've also had an apology
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Speaker 1: from Senator Lydia Thorpe. The former Green has apologized to
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Speaker 1: Senator Pauline Hanson for calling her a convicted racist during
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Speaker 1: a press conference last week. This is after Senator Hanson issued.
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Speaker 3: A legal threat.
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Speaker 1: Thorpe's apologized in a letter to Senator Hanson and also
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Speaker 1: apologized publicly on the social media platform X.
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Speaker 3: Channel nine and the.
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Speaker 1: ABC have also apologized for airing the defamatory comments. Let's
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Speaker 1: bring in News Corps Senior writer Patrick Carlin and Patrick.
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Speaker 1: This apology from Lydia Thought must have been a painful one.
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Speaker 1: She gets away with so much, but the threasher of
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Speaker 1: legal actions saw her apologize and apologize very quickly.
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Speaker 5: Yes, look, she got it wrong. She had to apologize,
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Speaker 5: and I think it was what two sentences or about
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Speaker 5: six words on X that actually constituted the apology. She
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Speaker 5: obviously didn't want to do it, but I think it
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Speaker 5: just goes to the biggest story of Lydia thought. You
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Speaker 5: look at King Charles, when was that about a month ago.
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Speaker 5: I think that was the moment where perhaps Australia said
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Speaker 5: hang on, enough is enough. And I think she sort
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Speaker 5: of jumped the shark at that point. And I think,
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Speaker 5: you know, you're getting apologies, you're getting finger gestures in
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Speaker 5: the Senate, you're getting papers thrown around. She seems you're
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Speaker 5: getting angrier and even less constructive than she was.
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Speaker 1: I think she has to do herself these days. Because
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Speaker 1: she had the big stunt with King Charles, got so
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Speaker 1: much international attention.
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Speaker 3: She was on every TV network in the UK, and
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Speaker 3: I think.
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Speaker 6: She misses that.
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Speaker 1: I think she wants a bit more of that kind
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Speaker 1: of attentions. I think the type where any attention is
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Speaker 1: good attention, whether it's negative or not. Now, this disturbing
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Speaker 1: report was in Today's Daily Telegraph on the billionaire widow
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Speaker 1: of Apple's Steve Jobs leading a foreign charge to funnel
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Speaker 1: money to the taxpayer funded activist body, the Environmental Defenders Offers,
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Speaker 1: which tries to block Australian energy projects in court. It
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Speaker 1: often succeeds in delaying or stopping these projects. It's emerged
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Speaker 1: the foundation, launched by Lourene Jobs as well as American
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Speaker 1: clothing giant Patagonia, two of the top foreign contributors to
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Speaker 1: the Environmental Defenders.
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Speaker 3: Offers doesn't amount to foreign interference.
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Speaker 5: Patrick, Look, possibly, I think the problem with this is
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Speaker 5: the government doesn't know who is funding the EDO. The
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Speaker 5: IDEO is going to court. They're making up stories according
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Speaker 5: to this last ruling, trying to you know, they're acting
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Speaker 5: like activists, like political operative to actually shut down big projects,
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Speaker 5: big jobs, and it's ideologically driven, and they are being
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Speaker 5: funded by people we don't know the full situation with.
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Speaker 5: They could be funded as has been outed by a
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Speaker 5: foreign government that seeks to sort of undermine Australia's energy security.
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Speaker 5: And the fact the problem is a they're activists and
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Speaker 5: b the government doesn't know it who's funning them.
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Speaker 1: And another problem is we're also funding And I don't
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Speaker 1: understand why a single cent of tax payer money goes
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Speaker 1: into impoverishing us, into stopping much needed projects, particularly when
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Speaker 1: it comes to energy, because we are paying some of
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Speaker 1: the highest energy costs anywhere in the world despite having
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Speaker 1: abundant reserves of everything coal.
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Speaker 3: Gas, uranium.
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Speaker 1: A report by the Business Counsel of Australia has ranked
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Speaker 1: you'll be shocked to hear this Atric Victoria as the
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Speaker 1: worst state to run a business.
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Speaker 3: Who would have thought that.
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Speaker 1: BCA Chief executive Brand Black said that Victoria must address
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Speaker 1: its regulatory environment, which is putting a handbreak on the economy.
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Speaker 1: He also said Victoria has some of the least competitive
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Speaker 1: property tax settings, payroll taxes and business business licensing requirements
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Speaker 1: in the country. It fundamentally needs to look at how
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Speaker 1: these are holding back its economy. Yes, we've got also
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Speaker 1: the biggest state debt by some margin.
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Speaker 3: South Australia, which is.
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Speaker 1: The country's most efficient planning system, came in at number one.
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Speaker 3: I think that would surprise a few people.
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Speaker 5: Oh look, it's not a shock that Victoria has been bad.
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Speaker 5: Melbourne is called the fourth most livable city in the world.
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Speaker 5: It's not in the top four Liverpool cities in Australia
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Speaker 5: at the moment. This is just more of what Melbournians
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Speaker 5: already known. It is not a good place to do business.
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Speaker 5: It is not a good place to own a house,
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Speaker 5: or run a restaurant or do anything.
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Speaker 1: Everything invest We've got the number of mum and dad
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Speaker 1: property investors selling out. You've got small business owners who
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Speaker 1: are fleeing, and those state taxes, the payroll tax and
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Speaker 1: the land taxes are just skyrocketing.
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Speaker 5: They're goudgets and it sort of takes you back to
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Speaker 5: nineteen ninety in Melbourne. We had the recession, we had
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Speaker 5: a long term labor government that had completely buggered up
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Speaker 5: the numbers for a long time, and back in nineteen
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Speaker 5: ninety we had to wait until nineteen ninety two to
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Speaker 5: actually vote out that government of the day. We're in
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Speaker 5: the same position now. There is no blue sky ahead.
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Speaker 2: At this stage.
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Speaker 5: We're two years away from a state election. Nobody's happy,
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Speaker 5: everybody's miserable, and it just feels like Melbourne really is
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Speaker 5: on the nose in such a such a really tangible way.
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Speaker 1: At least back then, the Victorian people had the option
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Speaker 1: of a different party with a very different set of
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Speaker 1: policies and a very strong leader. We had a Jeff
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Speaker 1: Kennett on that and he was voted in and he
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Speaker 1: transformed the state under his time there. Whether you loved
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Speaker 1: him or hated him, he definitely had a strong impact.
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Speaker 1: We don't have a Jeff Kennett in the Liberal Party now.
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Speaker 1: We've got John Pursuit.
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Speaker 5: On and that's part of the problem, isn't it.
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Speaker 3: That's almost part of the problem.
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Speaker 5: Yes, I was talking to a liberal person the other
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Speaker 5: day who's talking about Pursuito being knocked off. And we're
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Speaker 5: going to have this person or that person. You've got
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Speaker 5: the defamation case coming out soon. That's going to distract
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Speaker 5: and suck up so much oxygen. We need a decent
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Speaker 5: opposition more than ever.
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Speaker 1: You can't have good government without having a decent opposition,
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Speaker 1: and we certainly have neither of those things in Victoria.
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Speaker 1: Before you go, Patrick a report from Sky News his
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Speaker 1: own Caroline Marcus on Sydney University referring one of its
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Speaker 1: own academics to the police after he posted online threats
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Speaker 1: about a Jewish group and Sky News Australia hosts, including myself,
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Speaker 1: But the university says it cannot sack this character because
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Speaker 1: the threats were made in a personal capacity.
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Speaker 3: Joel Griggs wrote on.
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Speaker 1: X of the Australian Jewish Association in August that the
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Speaker 1: AJA r a fascist terror cell. If the government isn't
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Speaker 1: going to move on these dangerous psychopaths, can we maybe
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Speaker 1: pull something together on Twitter? Could it be too hard
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Speaker 1: to find out where these people live? That's disturbing? He
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Speaker 1: also replied to a Sky in his Australia post on
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Speaker 1: X featuring Andrew Bolt saying will get you one day.
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Speaker 1: He also called Andrew Bolt, myself, Rowland Dean, Peter Credlin,
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Speaker 1: traitorous scum and great deal more there. Ah, dear me,
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Speaker 1: he sounds like a charming learned fellow. Indeed, Australian academia
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Speaker 1: this is this is a little bit disturbing.
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Speaker 3: I've got to say, look, all of it is disturbing.
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Speaker 5: He's made bold threats against a number of people and
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Speaker 5: the university says, well, has nothing to do with us,
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Speaker 5: even though we employ I think on a casual basis.
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Speaker 5: But it's been there for a long time from what
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Speaker 5: I've read, and he's sitting there. You have to wonder
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Speaker 5: all the sort of post made after midnight or there's
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Speaker 5: something that they are very disturbing, and they are threats.
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Speaker 1: I think just as disturbing is that someone's academic future
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Speaker 1: could be in the hands of individuals like this.
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Speaker 3: Patrick Carline, thanks for your time tonight.
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Speaker 1: Joining me now is South Australian Liberal Senator Alex Antiq
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Speaker 1: Alex the foreign owned pup chain, Australian venues Co, the
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Speaker 1: Band Australia Day celebrations and it's two hundred plus venues
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Speaker 1: across the country is now issued an apology for causing
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Speaker 1: what it calls concern and confusion. And of course this
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Speaker 1: apology only came after there was a massive backlash and
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Speaker 1: calls for boycotts. Let's roll the list of the venues
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Speaker 1: this mob operates, Alex. It seems these corporate virtue signals
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Speaker 1: signalers have learned nothing from the war referendum that continue
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Speaker 1: to play these divisive political games.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, reader, I mean it seems that the sort of
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Speaker 7: the life cycle of wokenness now for the corporates is
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Speaker 7: about twenty four hours, because that's about how long it
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Speaker 7: took to turn the whole thing around, getting increasingly quick,
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Speaker 7: and it's just staggering that any of them are still
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Speaker 7: continuing to push these kind of agendas.
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Speaker 3: Through their businesses.
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Speaker 7: I mean, it's bizarre. Michael Jordan, of course famously once
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Speaker 7: said when he was asked why he wasn't more politically
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Speaker 7: involved words to the effect of well Republicans by sneakers too.
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Speaker 7: But in twenty twenty four in these sort of businesses
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Speaker 7: are learning that lesson very very slowly. I think my
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Speaker 7: advice to them would be, if you're sitting around the
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Speaker 7: bordroom table and you've got your advertising people there in future,
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Speaker 7: just do the opposite of what they suggest and you'll
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Speaker 7: probably be on a winner. Otherwise you're going to end
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Speaker 7: up down the same track as as Gillette and with
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Speaker 7: their toss toxic masculinity campaign you remember for a few
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Speaker 7: years back, and then bud Light last year, who also
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Speaker 7: on the receiving in they're very slow learners, reader, very.
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Speaker 1: We've seen that right here in Australia only last year,
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Speaker 1: where there was a lot of there were boycotts, but
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Speaker 1: people were upset by the big corporates getting involved in
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Speaker 1: the Voice referendum, advocating for one side exclusively and almost
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Speaker 1: putting pressure on their customers, their staff, their stakeholders to
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Speaker 1: vote a certain way in a divisive referendum and they
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Speaker 1: were on the wrong side it turned out. And they
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Speaker 1: haven't seemed to have learned anything. It'll be interesting to
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Speaker 1: see if this is forgiven and forgotten or people like
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Speaker 1: the bud Light experience going to say, stuff your apology,
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Speaker 1: We're going to go elsewhere. There's lots of options when
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Speaker 1: it comes to pubs and clubs now, Alex the Albaneza
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Speaker 1: government did have a big win last week passing a
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Speaker 1: world first social media band for under sixteens. You were
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Speaker 1: one of the few in the coalition to vote against
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Speaker 1: this bill and this legislation it's not really hair brained
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Speaker 1: alex ideologically. It is confused, to say the least, and
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Speaker 1: it comes with a whole bunch of unintended consequences.
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Speaker 3: Tell me you know this bill better than most.
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Speaker 1: How is a sixty five year old going to establish
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Speaker 1: there over sixteen so they can use Facebook without submitting
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Speaker 1: to digital ID or providing their passport or driver's license
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Speaker 1: to the social media site to identify themselves.
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Speaker 7: Well, this of course was the subject of what very
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Speaker 7: limited debate we had last week on the bill, which
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Speaker 7: was one of the main problems. I mean, this was
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Speaker 7: extraordinarily complicated stuff that was rushed through in about an hour.
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Speaker 7: We were lucky to get that as labor busted through
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Speaker 7: about thirty bills at the end of the week. So
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Speaker 7: that was one of the questions. The answer is less
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Speaker 7: clear though, it has to be said, if it's not
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Speaker 7: digital ID, which I think it still can be by
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Speaker 7: the way, I don't think that's been completely ruled out
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Speaker 7: by the amendment that was made. And it's not handing
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Speaker 7: over documents. Then what is it? Well, I asked that question,
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Speaker 7: and of course the answer to that is biometrics. These
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Speaker 7: companies are going to scan our faces, our children's faces,
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Speaker 7: and use that information to determine how old you are,
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Speaker 7: and if you're close, if there will obviously be a
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Speaker 7: margin of error, then they'll start asking the questions. And
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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know about anyone else, but that
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Speaker 7: alone is enough for me to have crossed the floor
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Speaker 7: on this. So I just can't support that. I can't
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Speaker 7: support the speed with which it went through. We got
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Speaker 7: the bill on a Thursday, It went to a very
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Speaker 7: brief three hour Senate hearing on the Monday, The bill
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Speaker 7: came to us on the Tuesday, and it was passed
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Speaker 7: shortly after that. So, I mean, you know, by the way, though,
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Speaker 7: we found time during that week to do all sorts
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Speaker 7: of other things, censure motions and suspending people and you know,
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Speaker 7: you know, valedictory speeches, but when it came to actually
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Speaker 7: drilling down into this world first piece of censorship law,
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Speaker 7: we didn't have the time. So what's going on up
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Speaker 7: in that building, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I do wonder if it's ever going to be implemented
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Speaker 1: given the massive issues with having any sort of adherence
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Speaker 1: to this that is palatable to people because I think
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Speaker 1: this is a sort of policy, particularly for those who
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Speaker 1: don't really use social media, which sounds good in theory.
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Speaker 1: Oh yes, social media does harm to under sixteen.
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Speaker 3: Let's ban it.
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Speaker 1: But as soon as you start scrutinizing the policy, you
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Speaker 1: see it's comes with huge issues. What do you if
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Speaker 1: the coalition wins, the coalition back this, most of the
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Speaker 1: MP's back this, will you be implementing it? And will
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Speaker 1: that mean that you're going to give the Office of
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Speaker 1: the e Safety Commissioner even more power?
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Speaker 8: Well, I mean I hope not.
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Speaker 7: But this has passed. It will go through an implementation
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Speaker 7: phase bureaucratics speak for let's see if we can make
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Speaker 7: it work. And the idea is that it'd been in
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Speaker 7: force by twenty twenty six. So what the hurry was
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Speaker 7: the last sitting week of the year is anybody's guest.
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Speaker 7: But you know the answer to that is we don't know.
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Speaker 7: I mean, there are so many things we don't know.
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Speaker 7: Within a space of a week, we were told YouTube
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Speaker 7: was out, snapchat was in, then snapchat was in, and
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Speaker 7: YouTube was out. So I mean, I don't think anybody
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Speaker 7: really knows how this is going to work, or if
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Speaker 7: it's going to work, and if it's going to fix
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Speaker 7: this problem that we're talking about, which we're all sympathetic
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Speaker 7: to kids getting bullied online. No one wants that. But
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Speaker 7: the problem is throwing out the baby with the bath
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Speaker 7: water here. And the other problem is kids are getting
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Speaker 7: legitimate news sources from social media. There are many kids
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Speaker 7: in remote locations that use this as a way of interacting,
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Speaker 7: and there are many kids with learning difficulties that rely
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Speaker 7: on a lot of these products as well. So look,
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Speaker 7: I don't know if it's workable. I doubt that it
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Speaker 7: will be, but we're we're going to let the bureaucrats
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Speaker 7: take it from here over to you.
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Speaker 8: Boy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is just SoC shortsighted.
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Speaker 3: And you're right, people, kids, people.
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Speaker 1: Of all ages get their news from social media, even
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Speaker 1: if it's coming through a mainstream media network.
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Speaker 3: And I'd much rather kids.
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Speaker 1: Be watching podcasters on YouTube than I don't know, exclusively
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Speaker 1: reading The Guardian or the ABC. They probably have a
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Speaker 1: much more nuanced view of the world if they were
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Speaker 1: watching YouTube as opposed to the ABC. Before you go, Alex,
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Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on the ABC cheir
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Speaker 1: Kim Williams and his bizarre attack against podcaster Joe Rogan,
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Speaker 1: saying he's deeply repulsive and other slurs. He's now labeled
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Speaker 1: the backlash against him as demonic. This man is prone
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Speaker 1: to a bit of hyperbole, isn't he? What do you
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Speaker 1: make of this entire bizarre episode.
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Speaker 7: When I first read it, I could be wrong about this,
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Speaker 7: but I read that he didn't really know much about
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Speaker 7: Joe Rogan but then found him deeply repulsive or whatever
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Speaker 7: the language was, which was current contradictory in its first step.
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Speaker 7: But he clearly hasn't watched or listened to the Joe
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Speaker 7: Rogan experience. I mean, Joe Rogan is the sort of
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Speaker 7: guy who probably would share a lot of fairly left
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Speaker 7: wing views libertarian views as well. I mean, he backed
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Speaker 7: Donald Trump, but I don't know whether or not the
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Speaker 7: left are now punishing him for that. Maybe who knows,
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Speaker 7: But I don't see anything other than pretty considered, pretty sensible,
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Speaker 7: and very very interesting commentary coming from there. I would
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Speaker 7: spend more of my time listening to the Joe Rogan
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Speaker 7: experience than I would opening up a newspaper or listening
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Speaker 7: to talkback radio in this country and state, to be
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Speaker 7: absolutely honest, and that's what the kids are doing. They're
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Speaker 7: picking up their news that the generation, by the way
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Speaker 7: that we were told had a ten second attention span
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Speaker 7: and now listening to three hour deep dive discussions about
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Speaker 7: serious subjects. So what's deeply repulsive about that is is
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Speaker 7: anyone's guests. I think it'd do mister Williams the world
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Speaker 7: of good to actually go and have a listen to
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Speaker 7: one of these podcasts might change his mind.
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Speaker 1: He embarrassed himself and I think he really put into
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Speaker 1: question whether he is fit for that role. He seems
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Speaker 1: to be so completely out of touch with the modern
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Speaker 1: media environment and how people consume news, and to make
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Speaker 1: those sorts of comments about a personality whose work you
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Speaker 1: don't even know. Again, you've got to question his judgment.
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Speaker 1: Listen to a podcast and then if that's your opinion,
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Speaker 1: at least it comes from an informed position. Senator Alex Antick,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time this evening.
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Speaker 7: Thanks reader.
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Speaker 3: Still to come, A Lefty's Losing Ed plus the extraordinary scope.
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Speaker 1: Of the Hunter Biden pardon and what it means for
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Speaker 1: President Joe Biden's a legacy. Josh Hammer has the details.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back now it's time for lefties losing it And
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Speaker 1: another day, another apology delivered by Sonny.
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Speaker 3: Houston on The View.
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Speaker 1: You know these are happening so often that I'm not
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Speaker 1: even featuring them all on this segment, but this one
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Speaker 1: was particularly bitter and passive aggressive, so I had to share.
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Speaker 3: I see you, I see you over there.
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Speaker 4: I have a very quick sess and it's not gonna
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Speaker 4: be that quick. Pete head Seth has denied any wrongdoing.
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Speaker 4: His lawyer said he paid the woman in twenty twenty
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Speaker 4: three to head off the threat of a basis lawsuit.
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Speaker 4: No charges were ever brought.
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Speaker 3: You rushed me for that. They're not a happy bunch,
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Speaker 3: are they? Not much joy there?
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Speaker 1: And remember when the Democrats tried to gaslight America in
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Speaker 1: the world with the lie that they were the Party
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Speaker 1: of joy, when we we all know they're the party
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Speaker 1: of grievance, hysteria and screechy sounds.
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Speaker 3: We will go back what are we not going back to?
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Speaker 2: We're not going back to the past where women had
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Speaker 2: no rights everever whatever to.
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Speaker 1: A young man now desperate to play the victim, here
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Speaker 1: is an American climate activist just bagging his country.
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Speaker 3: I've got to say, dude, you know you're free to leave.
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Speaker 8: I come from a country where we ban books for
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Speaker 8: sport and where we tell children to hide in the
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Speaker 8: corners to avoid the shooters. I come from a place
20:38
Speaker 8: where we bully LGBTQ kids in schools, and where we
20:42
Speaker 8: are actively taking away women's rights. I come from the
20:46
Speaker 8: United States.
20:52
Speaker 1: We have a lot to be grateful for after the
20:55
Speaker 1: US presidential election, including being spared the pain of having
20:58
Speaker 1: this young last shove down our throats for the next
21:02
Speaker 1: four years. Here is almost first daughter, radical leftist activist
21:07
Speaker 1: Ella M.
21:08
Speaker 3: Hoff. You sim girl, Sam, I can't even believe you
21:12
Speaker 3: know who I am and I'm are you.
21:13
Speaker 2: You cant believe me real?
21:14
Speaker 3: Are you?
21:15
Speaker 8: Well?
21:16
Speaker 3: You are like a breath of fresh air. Every kid
21:18
Speaker 3: I know is just like he knows your name is
21:20
Speaker 3: singing your praises.
21:22
Speaker 8: The way that you play with fashion and just unabattedly
21:24
Speaker 8: yourself is the most exciting thing I've ever seen.
21:28
Speaker 3: The most exciting thing she's ever seen.
21:31
Speaker 1: Seriously, and if you like most saint people have no
21:35
Speaker 1: idea who that woman is. She's Jenna Lyon, someone told
21:38
Speaker 1: me that I have no idea who she is, to
21:40
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Let's see now from American Democrat
21:43
Speaker 1: Party strategist.
21:45
Speaker 3: Julie Riginsky, who thinks she's going.
21:48
Speaker 1: To stop the military from deporting illegal migrants.
21:52
Speaker 9: Promise you with every fiber of my being, because I'll
21:54
Speaker 9: probably be one of those people that if anybody comes
21:56
Speaker 9: to these people and tries to drag them out by force,
22:00
Speaker 9: be protests of people like me, American citizens who are
22:02
Speaker 9: going to stand there and do everything possible to prevent
22:05
Speaker 9: these women and children, which is all who these people are.
22:08
Speaker 3: Remember when they found that cocaine in the.
22:11
Speaker 1: White House and somehow they couldn't figure out whose it was,
22:15
Speaker 1: and then the Secret Service destroyed the evidence. Clearly no
22:18
Speaker 1: obvious suspects came immediately to mind. Now to MSNBC and
22:24
Speaker 1: far far, far left commentator Molly Jong Fast, who was
22:28
Speaker 1: left speechless by.
22:30
Speaker 3: News of Hunter Biden's pardon.
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Speaker 10: Hunter light on a mandatory gun purchase forum by saying
22:35
Speaker 10: he was not illegally using or addicted to drugs. According
22:39
Speaker 10: to NBC News, the President need the decision this weekend.
22:43
Speaker 10: Molly Fast and furious, what do you make of this
22:46
Speaker 10: new news?
22:49
Speaker 2: I just heard it. I have to process it.
22:54
Speaker 10: I don't have a take.
22:55
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I don't want to
22:59
Speaker 3: have a take. Lady, that's your job. You've got one
23:02
Speaker 3: job there and is to have a take.
23:04
Speaker 1: Watch now, as CNN subjects Democrat Dan Goldman to a
23:08
Speaker 1: humiliation ritual of sorts, this is a thing of beauty.
23:12
Speaker 1: They literally play him footage of himself on ABC lying
23:16
Speaker 1: his lefty butt off about how Joe Biden was never
23:20
Speaker 1: going to pardon his son Hunter.
23:23
Speaker 3: I got to say, I love CNN for this.
23:27
Speaker 4: This is what you said.
23:28
Speaker 3: I want to watch.
23:31
Speaker 10: Do you think a pardon for his son would be
23:33
Speaker 10: a mistake?
23:36
Speaker 7: Yes, And I don't think there's any chance that President
23:39
Speaker 7: Biden is going to do that, unlike his predecessor, who
23:42
Speaker 7: pardoned all of his friends.
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Speaker 11: What does that feel like watching yourself back then reassuring
23:47
Speaker 11: people that Biden was not going to issue a pardon
23:51
Speaker 11: for his son.
23:54
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that if that Plea agreement and
23:56
Speaker 5: that Plea deal had gone through, there would be no pardon.
24:00
Speaker 3: That was a satisfactory outcome already.
24:03
Speaker 4: Fallen that.
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Speaker 11: Sorry, when you reacted, this was when the deal had
24:10
Speaker 11: fallen through now.
24:12
Speaker 1: We were told again and again, not just by the
24:16
Speaker 1: Biden White House, but also its propaganda the overwhelming majority
24:20
Speaker 1: of the US media that Joe Biden would never pardon
24:24
Speaker 1: his crackadd old whore enthusiast son. He has too much
24:27
Speaker 1: integrity to do that. He has too much respect for
24:30
Speaker 1: the legal process.
24:32
Speaker 9: Major commitment from the President, accepting the outcome of the
24:36
Speaker 9: trial and also pledging not to pardon his son.
24:38
Speaker 3: Presidential promise to put the law before a family.
24:42
Speaker 12: Shod by the jury decision.
24:45
Speaker 3: I will do that, and I will not.
24:46
Speaker 1: Partner letting the world know that he will not wipe
24:49
Speaker 1: away the decision of twelve of his son's peers.
24:52
Speaker 12: One side, Democrats and Joe Biden protecting the justice system,
24:57
Speaker 12: and on the other Republicans in Trump protecting current president
25:00
Speaker 12: of the United States has so much respect for the
25:04
Speaker 12: law that he has said he would not pardon his son.
25:08
Speaker 12: I mean what you know again, it's all about the contrast.
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Speaker 1: Joining me now is Newsweek Senior editor at Large and
25:15
Speaker 1: Article three Projects Senior Council Josh hammert Josh. Joe Biden
25:21
Speaker 1: has not only pardoned his son, this is the most comprehensive,
25:26
Speaker 1: far reaching pardon. I think we've seen Joe Biden signed
25:30
Speaker 1: a full and unconditional pardon for Hunter, covering all offenses
25:36
Speaker 1: against the United States which he has committed or may
25:39
Speaker 1: have committed or taken part in during the period from
25:43
Speaker 1: January one, twenty fourteen, through to December.
25:46
Speaker 3: One, twenty twenty.
25:48
Speaker 1: Four including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted.
25:53
Speaker 1: The scope of this pardon is enormous.
25:56
Speaker 3: Josh.
25:58
Speaker 2: Reader, The scope is so annoy and indeed is so unprecedented.
26:02
Speaker 2: Truly impressed in that I've actually spent a lot of
26:04
Speaker 2: time trying to think over these past thirty six hours
26:06
Speaker 2: or so as to whether or not there is anything
26:08
Speaker 2: remotely resembling a clear president for a part in this
26:11
Speaker 2: sweeping and honestly, I come up blank. I mean, this
26:14
Speaker 2: is the kind of language that you put into a
26:16
Speaker 2: pardon that I think back to my time in law
26:18
Speaker 2: school here in the United States. I mean, I would
26:20
Speaker 2: if I were a constitutional law professor, I would literally
26:22
Speaker 2: put a pardon like this on a first year law
26:25
Speaker 2: student exam to try to question the students as to
26:28
Speaker 2: whether something like this is even permissible, as to whether
26:30
Speaker 2: it's even constitutional in the first place. The short answer
26:33
Speaker 2: is that it is, unfortunately, because the part and power
26:35
Speaker 2: is truly cleinary. But the point is that there's just
26:38
Speaker 2: there's no precedent for this. I mean, this has not happened,
26:40
Speaker 2: to my knowledge anytime in recent history or in history
26:43
Speaker 2: at all, let alone to actually do so to one's son,
26:47
Speaker 2: to one's literal next of kin. I mean, I'm somewhat
26:51
Speaker 2: flabbergast to read. I really don't necessarily have words for this.
26:54
Speaker 2: And the fact that you're tying about the January of
26:56
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen in particular, well you know what happened when
26:59
Speaker 2: you're twenty fourteen. Oh yeah, that's right. Well, Hunter Biden
27:02
Speaker 2: starts sitting on the board of BURISBA in the spring
27:04
Speaker 2: of twenty fourteen, just a few years after January twenty fourteen,
27:08
Speaker 2: no doubt read it for his subject matter expertise on
27:11
Speaker 2: Eastern European Baltic Sea oil and natural gas energy exports.
27:16
Speaker 2: I jest, of course, he has no expertise in this whatsoever.
27:18
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, Joe Biden says that this
27:22
Speaker 2: was an example of a politicized prosecution. I actually agree
27:26
Speaker 2: with him, but for the exact opposite reason. The Special
27:28
Speaker 2: Council David Weiss deliberately slow walk this case. He did
27:32
Speaker 2: not look into far of the Foreign Agent's Registration Act.
27:35
Speaker 2: He deliberately let the five year statute of limitations toll
27:39
Speaker 2: on that particular statute. There and by the way, he
27:41
Speaker 2: tried to submit a plea deal in the summer of
27:43
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three that was such a sweetheart deal that
27:45
Speaker 2: the federal judge Mary Ellen Norieker rejected as just being
27:48
Speaker 2: too favorable to the criminal defendant. As a former federal
27:51
Speaker 2: law clerk, I can tell you not something that happens
27:53
Speaker 2: every day in court. This whole thing distincts from top
27:57
Speaker 2: to bottom. The fish rots from the head. The silver
27:59
Speaker 2: line here's a silver line now iant in a positive.
28:01
Speaker 6: No.
28:01
Speaker 2: The silver lining here is that when Donald Trump comes
28:04
Speaker 2: into power January twenty twenty five, any morsel of credibility
28:08
Speaker 2: at the Left had when they complained about Donald Trump's
28:11
Speaker 2: purported abuses of the justice system, it's over. They have
28:14
Speaker 2: no credibility whatsoever. You and I both know they had
28:16
Speaker 2: no credibility with the Jacksmith lawfair to begin with here.
28:19
Speaker 2: But this is the final nail in the coffin. This
28:21
Speaker 2: is really it. At this point, they have revealed themselves
28:23
Speaker 2: for the tyrants that they are.
28:27
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not even a little bit shocked by any
28:30
Speaker 1: of this. I'm a little bit shocked by the scope
28:33
Speaker 1: of the pardon because that is just astonishing, as you've
28:36
Speaker 1: just explained. But let's not forget Donald Trump was impeached
28:41
Speaker 1: for wanting to investigate what actually happened with Ukraine and
28:46
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden and Barsma just for wanting to have a
28:50
Speaker 1: look at things that are now beyond the justice system.
28:54
Speaker 1: Where Hunter Biden has just got this get out of
28:59
Speaker 1: Jao Freaka, And I do wonder whether that get out
29:02
Speaker 1: of Joao Frekat Josh is really for Joe Biden himself
29:06
Speaker 1: and other members of the family, because at the end
29:08
Speaker 1: of the day, Joe Biden was the product this entire
29:13
Speaker 1: pay for access scheme they were running. Joe was at
29:18
Speaker 1: the center of it. Without him, there would be no
29:21
Speaker 1: money coming in.
29:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you've nailed it. Is this pardon is
29:26
Speaker 2: only partially for Hunter Biden. It really is a pardon
29:29
Speaker 2: for the entire Biden family in general. Look, there have
29:31
Speaker 2: been many, many on the right side of the American
29:34
Speaker 2: political aisle, myself included, who have been calling for the
29:37
Speaker 2: Biden DOJ, or excuse me for the Trump DOJ, that
29:39
Speaker 2: is to reopen a new Special Council probe into Hunter
29:42
Speaker 2: Biden come day one, to look back into possible violations
29:45
Speaker 2: with the Foreign Agents Registration Act and various other overseas
29:49
Speaker 2: foreign dealings. Now, with this part and in place here,
29:51
Speaker 2: assuming that it is upheld in court, which again I
29:53
Speaker 2: believe it will be for better or for worse. But
29:55
Speaker 2: with this part and in place, you can't do that.
29:58
Speaker 2: And that ultimately is what Joe Biden trying to do here.
30:01
Speaker 2: I think he's basically taking an action rita to try
30:03
Speaker 2: to make a play for the presidential historians who will
30:06
Speaker 2: write books about his presidency fifteen twenty thirty years now.
30:09
Speaker 2: And what he's trying to do is he's trying to
30:11
Speaker 2: preclude his own name and his brother's name, Jim Biden,
30:14
Speaker 2: I guess Hunter's name from being revealed in a subsequent
30:17
Speaker 2: deposition or a judicial hearing or a House Republican subpoene investigation.
30:21
Speaker 2: He's trying to obviate all of that with the sweepy
30:23
Speaker 2: nature of this part. And little does he know, though,
30:25
Speaker 2: that in doing such a corrupt a venal, a grossly
30:29
Speaker 2: self serving hypocritical thing. After months and months of just lying,
30:34
Speaker 2: not even guess line, just straight up lying to the
30:36
Speaker 2: American people over and over and over again. Little does
30:38
Speaker 2: he know that he actually has sealed his faith with
30:41
Speaker 2: the presidential historians here in the US. That faith, though,
30:43
Speaker 2: is not what he hopes it will be.
30:47
Speaker 1: I do wonder, Josh, whether he's going to be cute
30:50
Speaker 1: now and try to pardon Donald Trump and his ridiculous convictions.
30:56
Speaker 1: The Trump top charge, as we saw in New York Kuja,
31:00
Speaker 1: ultimately going to be reversed on appeal.
31:03
Speaker 3: But do you think he will do something like that.
31:06
Speaker 3: He'll pull something like that in the final wakes.
31:10
Speaker 2: I can see it happening. I mean, but you know
31:13
Speaker 2: they've tried this trick before, Rita. I mean, you know
31:15
Speaker 2: they did this when they indicted Bob Menendez, the very
31:18
Speaker 2: corrupt senator from New Jersey, the Democrat, who is taking
31:21
Speaker 2: Egyptian literal bars of gold were found in his closet there.
31:24
Speaker 2: They did a similar thing when they indicted Eric Adams,
31:27
Speaker 2: the mayor of New York City there who apparently was
31:29
Speaker 2: taking some summer money from the country of Turkey. He
31:32
Speaker 2: was flying Turks shalens there, so they're actually.
31:34
Speaker 3: Very good at this.
31:35
Speaker 2: They're very good and basically dangling out these cheap objects
31:38
Speaker 2: and hoping to obfuscat into bamboozle the right here in America,
31:42
Speaker 2: trying to convince you that, oh, everything's above board. You see,
31:45
Speaker 2: we're prosecuting both sides, or hey, we're letting both sides
31:48
Speaker 2: off the huck. They're very good in that they've tried
31:50
Speaker 2: this tactic before. But at this point, Rita, I think
31:53
Speaker 2: the onus is on us on the right, those of
31:55
Speaker 2: us who are conservatives, constitutionals, pro America patriots, to see
31:58
Speaker 2: this for what it is, which an unprecedented act of
32:01
Speaker 2: self serving venality in American history.
32:05
Speaker 1: Now, Trump has announced his pick for the head of
32:08
Speaker 1: the Drug Enforcement Administration as a Hillsborough County sheriff, Chad Chronister.
32:14
Speaker 1: This man's record is very different to that of say
32:19
Speaker 1: Cash Ptel, his pick for FBI director, a pick that
32:22
Speaker 1: his voters were absolutely thrilled about.
32:26
Speaker 4: This pick.
32:27
Speaker 1: Conister Cronister is well his infamous for the relatively soft
32:32
Speaker 1: approach he took to the twenty twenty BLM riots. He's been,
32:36
Speaker 1: though tough onposing COVID curfews and even arresting a church
32:42
Speaker 1: pastor for holding services. Josh explain this selection to me,
32:48
Speaker 1: Is this Donald Trump's first mistake since winning the election?
32:53
Speaker 2: Rita, You know, let me first say that, not who
32:56
Speaker 2: I would pick to lead the DEA. I mean, let
32:58
Speaker 2: me just put my cards on table there, not who
32:59
Speaker 2: I I would pick, not who I would advise Donald
33:01
Speaker 2: Trump to pick. I say this, by the way, as
33:03
Speaker 2: someone who takes the DA's task very seriously. My cousin
33:05
Speaker 2: may his memory be a blessing overdose and died seven
33:08
Speaker 2: years ago now from fentanyl lace cocaine, no doubt traffic
33:11
Speaker 2: across the US Mexico border. So I take the drug
33:13
Speaker 2: issue here in the United States very seriously. So again,
33:16
Speaker 2: not the man that I would have recommended to Donald
33:18
Speaker 2: Trump and his team to pick if I had my
33:20
Speaker 2: word and my brothers. But I think that Donald Trump
33:22
Speaker 2: is entitled to a very large degree of deference when
33:24
Speaker 2: it comes to people like this, who will comprise not
33:27
Speaker 2: just his cabinet, but the DA is actually then a
33:29
Speaker 2: sub cabinet's second tier official. The DA technically sits below
33:33
Speaker 2: the Department of Justice. The DEA chief is basically he's
33:36
Speaker 2: basically subservient to the Attorney General. Of the United States,
33:39
Speaker 2: and from what I understand, this pick basically came from
33:41
Speaker 2: Pam Bondi, who is Donald Trump's pick for Attorney General.
33:44
Speaker 2: Pam Bondi and check Conis are both, they're both Floridians.
33:47
Speaker 2: They're both here in Florida where I live there, I
33:49
Speaker 2: think soon to be Attorney General. Bondi is very close
33:52
Speaker 2: with this sheriff in Hillsboro County there so she's probably
33:55
Speaker 2: entitled to her dea chief of choice. Again, not who
33:58
Speaker 2: I would necessarily pick there, but it is worth noting
34:00
Speaker 2: that Hillsborough County, where Kronister is sheriff, is a purple
34:04
Speaker 2: to late blue county, so if he's trying to get
34:06
Speaker 2: re elected as sheriff, he probably can't run a very
34:08
Speaker 2: very hard right jurisdiction there. He has been very tough
34:11
Speaker 2: on Prohamas protests. He's taken a stronger stance on illegal
34:14
Speaker 2: immigration in general there So there are definitely some things
34:16
Speaker 2: I think to look very fondly at. But again, having
34:18
Speaker 2: said that, wouldn't necessarily be my first choice, but I'm
34:21
Speaker 2: okay with the pick if that's who Pambindi wants.
34:25
Speaker 1: Talking about Hamas and being tough on terrorists, Donald Trump
34:30
Speaker 1: has today issued a stark warning to the terrorists holding hostages.
34:36
Speaker 3: I'm going to read from.
34:36
Speaker 1: This part of the post that he shared on truth.
34:40
Speaker 1: He said, please let this truth serve to represent that
34:43
Speaker 1: if the hostages are not released prior to January twenty,
34:47
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, the date that I proudly assume office
34:50
Speaker 1: as President of the United States, there will be all
34:53
Speaker 1: hell to pay in the Middle East, and for those
34:56
Speaker 1: in charge who have a perpetrator these atrocities against humanity,
35:02
Speaker 1: though is responsible, will be hit harder than anybody has
35:05
Speaker 1: been hit in the long and storied history of the
35:08
Speaker 1: United States of America. Release the hostages and now in capitals. Josh,
35:15
Speaker 1: we haven't seen this sort of strength or clarity from
35:19
Speaker 1: the Biden administration. Certainly, this is pure Trump. This is
35:24
Speaker 1: Trump's pace through strength strategy.
35:29
Speaker 2: Look, I mean it's an amazing statement. I mean, it's
35:32
Speaker 2: truly an amazing statement.
35:33
Speaker 3: You know.
35:34
Speaker 2: One of the funny things about Donald Trump is that
35:36
Speaker 2: he barely even has to act. I mean, as soon
35:38
Speaker 2: as he was elected by the American people, basically, the
35:41
Speaker 2: entire Middle East map already started to change. Effectively. Overnight.
35:44
Speaker 2: Has Balla started begging for a ceasefire. Hamas started begging
35:47
Speaker 2: for a ceasefire. Ran said that was going to tone
35:49
Speaker 2: down it's assault across the entire region. There, I mean, basically,
35:52
Speaker 2: just the mere presence of this man, the guy who
35:55
Speaker 2: achieved historical peace the Middle East's first time around, the
35:57
Speaker 2: guy who took out Kasam Sulimani at the bag at
36:00
Speaker 2: a Rock airport in January twenty twenty. There, I mean,
36:02
Speaker 2: the mere fact that he is there, let alone putting
36:05
Speaker 2: out amazing statements like this has already changed the entire
36:08
Speaker 2: dynamic of the region there. Look, the point is people
36:11
Speaker 2: think that Donald Trump is like a warmonger. They's looking
36:13
Speaker 2: at star wars. The Middle East was the quietest it
36:16
Speaker 2: has been in decades during his presidency because again, our
36:20
Speaker 2: enemies here in America no not to mess with us
36:23
Speaker 2: when Donald Trump is in office. The one thing I
36:25
Speaker 2: will say is that if you're going to talk like this,
36:27
Speaker 2: as Donald Trump has done in truth social you better
36:29
Speaker 2: be prepared to back it up with action. Having said that, though,
36:32
Speaker 2: I think Donald Trump is very clearly willing to do that,
36:34
Speaker 2: as he's demonstrated before there. So our enemies are now
36:38
Speaker 2: on standby. They are watching this with very close eyes there,
36:41
Speaker 2: and that is a very good thing. I said.
36:44
Speaker 3: I remember when he was Wow.
36:46
Speaker 1: I think it was the fourth or fifth presidential candidate
36:49
Speaker 1: who said he was going to move the embassy. He
36:52
Speaker 1: was going to move the American embassy, and he was
36:56
Speaker 1: going to.
36:56
Speaker 3: Acknowledge Israel's capital. And there was a promise that was
37:01
Speaker 3: made previously.
37:02
Speaker 1: Josh, I think Clinton made it, Obama made it, Bush
37:05
Speaker 1: made it.
37:06
Speaker 3: None of them followed through. They were all too terrified.
37:09
Speaker 1: Donald Trump followed through despite the hyperbole and the hysteria
37:13
Speaker 1: that we got from the media and experts telling us
37:17
Speaker 1: it was going to elite, lead to bloodshed and relations
37:20
Speaker 1: were going to sour.
37:22
Speaker 3: And what happened, Nothing really happened.
37:24
Speaker 1: They dealt with it because he followed through with a pledge.
37:28
Speaker 1: And I think we're going to see a lot more
37:31
Speaker 1: of that. I want to ask you about Meta CEO
37:34
Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg. He's met with Trump and their rumors that
37:37
Speaker 1: he wants to cozy up to the administration. He wants
37:40
Speaker 1: to be brought into the fold and be involved in
37:43
Speaker 1: the national reform and renewal. But should this character be trusted, Josh?
37:49
Speaker 1: Meta Instagram, Facebook have been notorious for suppressing, censoring conservatives
37:57
Speaker 1: that continue to do so, and he donates hundreds of
38:01
Speaker 1: millions of dollars of his own money to help fortify
38:05
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election.
38:07
Speaker 3: Is he a character.
38:10
Speaker 1: Who has proven himself, who's showing that he has changed
38:13
Speaker 1: his mind about politics? Like Elon Muskaz and RFK and
38:17
Speaker 1: Tulsa Gabbett and some others.
38:20
Speaker 2: You know, I would not trust Mark Zuckerberg personally at all.
38:23
Speaker 2: I mean to put it mildly there, but he's on
38:26
Speaker 2: this current long, extended maya culpa apology tours. It's very odd, actually,
38:30
Speaker 2: I mean this started really over the summer. He put
38:33
Speaker 2: out some statement acknowledging that Facebook was complicit in censoring
38:36
Speaker 2: the Hunter Biden laptop story from The New York Post
38:39
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty, and he said that he apologized
38:41
Speaker 2: for that. So he's been on this extended apology tour
38:44
Speaker 2: for a while now. I can't quite figure out exactly
38:47
Speaker 2: why he is doing this, though, to be honest with you,
38:50
Speaker 2: I find it very difficult to believe that his actual
38:52
Speaker 2: politics and principles and ideology have changed, rather as probably
38:56
Speaker 2: just a self serving measure when it comes to just
38:58
Speaker 2: trying to keep this company relevant. He probably sees his
39:00
Speaker 2: fellow Silicon Valley titan, Elon Musk, who is now in
39:02
Speaker 2: Mara Lago. He's taken photos with Don Junior and Eric Trump.
39:05
Speaker 2: He's basically, I mean Elon Musk is basically an adopted
39:07
Speaker 2: son of the Trump family at this point. And this
39:09
Speaker 2: is probably a little bit of just envy or jealousy. Frankly,
39:12
Speaker 2: from Mark Zuckberg. You know, from one billionaire to another there.
39:15
Speaker 2: If I had to put on my psychological lens, that's
39:17
Speaker 2: probably what I imagine what was going on here, belok.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, from one Jew to another, from
39:22
Speaker 2: me to Mark Zuckerberg. Mark Zuckerberg actually had his bar
39:24
Speaker 2: mitzvah and the synagogue in my hometown back in New
39:26
Speaker 2: York there, So I would encourage him to spend a
39:28
Speaker 2: little more time doing what we call teshuba, which is
39:30
Speaker 2: which is atonement in Judaism, prior to trying to get
39:33
Speaker 2: in Donald Trump's good graces. I think I think a
39:34
Speaker 2: little more atonement might be in order for your previous mistakes.
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Speaker 1: Frankly, I tell you, I'm with you. I would not
39:41
Speaker 1: trust him as far as I can throw him. And
39:43
Speaker 1: if he actually really has genuinely changed his point of
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Speaker 1: view and waken up to some of the awful activism
39:52
Speaker 1: that he's been party too. Then you would think it
39:54
Speaker 1: would tackle that on his own websites, on his own
39:57
Speaker 1: sites Instagram and faceboo book, which are still routinely censoring
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Speaker 1: anything that's right of left, I mean even centrist of
40:08
Speaker 1: finding themselves getting censored or suppressed.
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Speaker 9: There.
40:12
Speaker 1: Before you go, We've got some good news. I've got
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Speaker 1: conservative commentator Scott Jennings being added to the editorial board
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Speaker 1: of The La Times, a publication that has been left
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Speaker 1: to far left for a long time. Is this going
40:27
Speaker 1: to have any make any meaningful change though, Josh, Or
40:32
Speaker 1: is this just a token conservative who's been added so
40:36
Speaker 1: they can pretend to be balanced.
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Speaker 2: So the La Times, it's you know, it's worth giving
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Speaker 2: some credit or credits do. The La Times was one
40:44
Speaker 2: of the major publications that ultimately refuse to endorse in
40:47
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four election, along the Washington Post in USA. Today,
40:50
Speaker 2: those really the big three liberal pepers which refuse to
40:53
Speaker 2: endorse Carmala Harris or Dald Trump in this election. So
40:56
Speaker 2: the fact that they refuse to endorse and now they're
40:58
Speaker 2: bringing Skytt Jennings is definitely a propitious sign for the
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Speaker 2: future there, but ultimately the devil will be in the
41:03
Speaker 2: details there. I want to see what his columns look like.
41:05
Speaker 2: I want to see those voices actually represented on the
41:08
Speaker 2: editorial boards, in house editorials. I actually published one ibed
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Speaker 2: myself at the LA Times about four and a half
41:13
Speaker 2: years ago. Now I haven't bothered to try again. It's
41:15
Speaker 2: been a very long time since that, since that was
41:17
Speaker 2: a hospitable place to publish conservative commentary. So I guess
41:20
Speaker 2: you know, the proof ultimately be here in the pudding.
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Speaker 1: Look, Josh, I differ with you on that point. I
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Speaker 1: don't give them credit for not endorsing Kamala, and same
41:28
Speaker 1: with the Washington Post because they run nothing but pro
41:31
Speaker 1: Kamala anti Trump material twenty four to seven, and then
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Speaker 1: they don't endorse, pretending that that means they're balanced or
41:40
Speaker 1: they're then they're not committed to one side when we
41:43
Speaker 1: all know where their politics and their agenda runs. So
41:47
Speaker 1: we'll be watching and saying if Scott Jennings has an
41:49
Speaker 1: impact at the LA Times.
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Speaker 3: Josh Hamma, thanks for your time tonight. Thank you. Rider
41:54
Speaker 3: still to come.
41:55
Speaker 1: Pressure on Queensland Premier David Chris of Fooley to review
41:58
Speaker 1: the states writing gender laws.
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Speaker 3: Stephanie Bastian is up next.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, joining me now as the head of Advocacy
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Speaker 1: at Women's Forum Australia. Stephanie Bastian. Stephanie, Let's begin in Queensland,
42:22
Speaker 1: where there is increasing pressure on Premier David Chrisafooley to
42:25
Speaker 1: reform the states so called gender care laws. Government MP's
42:30
Speaker 1: are set to be eager to pass legislation to protect
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Speaker 1: kids from dangerous and sometimes irreversible gender treatments.
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Speaker 3: What else can you tell me about this?
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Speaker 6: Well, good evening, Rita. Well, we haven't seen anything come
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Speaker 6: on the agenda just yet. I imagine David's been very
42:46
Speaker 6: busy implementing some of his other pre election commitments, including
42:50
Speaker 6: tackling crime and excessive government expenditure. However, I can't fault
42:54
Speaker 6: his ministerial appointments. We now have Fiona Simpson who is
42:58
Speaker 6: the new Minister for Women and unlike her preecessor, she
43:00
Speaker 6: actually knows what a woman is and she's advocated throughout
43:04
Speaker 6: her career for women's sex based rights. And of course
43:08
Speaker 6: the new Minister for Health, Tim Nichols, is also a
43:11
Speaker 6: very good appointment. During the birthdesths and Marriages debate last
43:15
Speaker 6: year in Parliament, he gave a very passionate speech on
43:18
Speaker 6: the harms of socially transitioning children and how that can
43:22
Speaker 6: lead to medical transition and the implications with that, especially
43:25
Speaker 6: the fact that they cannot consent even with support of
43:28
Speaker 6: their parents. The coma bit issues that come with genderice
43:32
Speaker 6: for including autism and other neurodivergencies, suppression anxiety, backgrounds of trauma,
43:38
Speaker 6: and of course the social contagent aspect.
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Speaker 8: So he is well and.
43:43
Speaker 6: Truly across the issue. He's obviously invested time in looking
43:46
Speaker 6: into it, and I have full faith that he would
43:48
Speaker 6: be more than capable to lead reforms. I just hope
43:51
Speaker 6: that we see something on the agenda soon.
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Speaker 3: Well, it would just be good to see a review, Stephanie.
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Speaker 1: It would be good to see a review of these practices,
44:02
Speaker 1: see what the outcomes have been, how many are undergoing
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Speaker 1: these treatments at what ages, and to do this sort
44:11
Speaker 1: of reviews that we've seen elsewhere in the world in
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Speaker 1: the UK, Scandinavia, many parts of the US. Australia is
44:17
Speaker 1: a bit of an outlier right now. We're just blindly
44:20
Speaker 1: following this model without really any care of the consequences
44:25
Speaker 1: for the confused kids or undergoing these treatments.
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Speaker 6: Oh, absolutely, we are behind the rest of the world.
44:33
Speaker 6: Even America now is making moves in the right direction,
44:37
Speaker 6: and New Zealand just a couple of weeks ago announced
44:40
Speaker 6: one of their health regulatory bodies has urged caution on
44:45
Speaker 6: using puberty blockers to treat children, and we are waiting
44:48
Speaker 6: for further announcements that are expected to come from the
44:51
Speaker 6: Health minister over there. So I think a review is
44:55
Speaker 6: certainly a first step, but I would be calling for
44:58
Speaker 6: a halt on these medical treatments that kids are receiving
45:01
Speaker 6: surgeries at a very young age. In Queensland, we know
45:04
Speaker 6: that they're going on puberty blockers before they're even twelve
45:06
Speaker 6: or thirteen, So I would be halting treatments and then
45:10
Speaker 6: organizing a review most certainly.
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Speaker 1: I can tell you I think we're going to see
45:17
Speaker 1: lawsuits in the future, class action lawsuits, and I think
45:22
Speaker 1: they'll be very much deserved because I think a lot
45:25
Speaker 1: of confused kids have been prescribed treatments that are going
45:30
Speaker 1: to leave them with lifelong medical consequences. Moving on to
45:34
Speaker 1: how captured segments of the media are by radical gender theory.
45:40
Speaker 1: This passage out of The New York Times was incredible.
45:45
Speaker 1: They somehow managed to make women a subcategory.
45:49
Speaker 3: In their own sex.
45:51
Speaker 1: In a recent piece, they referred to women as non
45:55
Speaker 1: transgender women, and this has.
45:58
Speaker 3: Caused all sorts of backlash.
46:01
Speaker 1: Even leftists like Martine and Navrattel over the Tennis Great
46:05
Speaker 1: spoke out against ishes said, New York Times, you stink.
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Speaker 1: We are women, not non transgender women, just women will
46:13
Speaker 1: do in the future.
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Speaker 3: What's your reaction to this?
46:16
Speaker 1: Every now and then something comes along and you think,
46:20
Speaker 1: surely not. That has to be parody, it has to
46:23
Speaker 1: be satire, and it ends up being real.
46:29
Speaker 6: I know, it's ridiculous. I think people are realizing more
46:32
Speaker 6: and more just how ideologically captured these outlets are. Over
46:37
Speaker 6: in America, it's the New York Times. Here it's the ABC,
46:41
Speaker 6: And I think with the election of Trump and the
46:43
Speaker 6: whole campaign on the issue, more and more women are
46:46
Speaker 6: able to speak out and actually voice their opinions on it,
46:48
Speaker 6: which is increasing, which is very positive. But there are
46:52
Speaker 6: a number of issues with that piece. I mean, they
46:54
Speaker 6: were still disputing the science and the physiological differences between
46:57
Speaker 6: men and women in sport.
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Speaker 3: My five year old knows the difference.
47:00
Speaker 6: In the playground quite frankly, and so I think that
47:04
Speaker 6: these publications are obviously ideologically captured. No one is going
47:08
Speaker 6: to take them seriously until they start reporting on these
47:11
Speaker 6: things properly.
47:14
Speaker 1: And just on the subject matter of that New York
47:17
Speaker 1: Times piece, the volleyball scandal we've spoken about previously on
47:21
Speaker 1: this program, it looks like the transgender player San Jose States,
47:26
Speaker 1: Blair Fleming, has played his final college volleyball game. Do
47:30
Speaker 1: you feel like the sports administrators learned anything during this saga,
47:38
Speaker 1: do you.
47:39
Speaker 6: Know, reader, I don't think they have, and they should
47:41
Speaker 6: probably be sacked the litigation. There's an impending litigation against
47:44
Speaker 6: them that started before the end of this season. It
47:47
Speaker 6: didn't make them think twice or change direction. They had
47:51
Speaker 6: a whole election campaign run on this issue. In fact,
47:54
Speaker 6: it was an injury within the sporting team that put
47:57
Speaker 6: it on the Republican agenda, and they haven't learned their lesson.
48:01
Speaker 6: I think that there are some people who are so invested,
48:04
Speaker 6: who are so politically invested in this, they are beyond
48:07
Speaker 6: learning lessons. Perhaps a slap in the face in court
48:11
Speaker 6: might do it. Unlikely, but still I think for the
48:13
Speaker 6: integrity of the sport, they all need to be dismissed
48:16
Speaker 6: in a new administration. Put in.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I think one hundred percent right there.
48:23
Speaker 1: They are putting women at risk, they're putting athletes at risk,
48:26
Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be up to the individual athletes to
48:30
Speaker 1: take a stand to boycott games. But it's come to
48:33
Speaker 1: that because the administrators have proved themselves to be utterly
48:37
Speaker 1: gutlers or ideological. Stephanie Bastian, thanks so much for your
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Speaker 1: time this evening, and that's it from me.
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Speaker 3: Up next is Newsnight.
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Speaker 1: I'll see you at eleven tomorrow with Douglas Murray