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Hour Two | Dr. Etheredge, Jordan Tyson & AK’s MCL Injury · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the bench. We have to Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where.
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  Speaker 1: The plays get broken down and science gets denied.
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  Speaker 2: I got to come off the bench.
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  Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Raising
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  Speaker 1: Kines Studio.
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in have number two of O TB.
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  Speaker 3: Jake Flynn, Elandra Tata. The wolf Pack is all here
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  Speaker 3: and going to be joined now as we are every
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  Speaker 3: single Wednesday by Doctor Stephen Etheridge.
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  Speaker 4: Doc, how we doing, how we living? Doing great? Doing awesome?
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  Speaker 3: Glad to be back with you here, normal routine. Seeing
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  Speaker 3: Doc on a Wednesday, I know it's Wednesday now.
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  Speaker 5: Helps kind of get some balance and understanding and yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's ground you a.
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  Speaker 6: Little bit, right, it does your north star he is
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  Speaker 6: and we have found our found and.
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  Speaker 2: We're glad to have him here.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Doc's also in the middle of training camp too.
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  Speaker 3: We're not the only ones having to go to training
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  Speaker 3: camp practice every day all day.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like so it has it been over on
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  Speaker 2: the Ponderosa.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's been good. I've really enjoyed the intensity. I
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  Speaker 5: think you've kind of seen a little bit more energy
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  Speaker 5: out there. It's it's been nice to see that you know,
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  Speaker 5: the schedule is a little bit different. You know, they'll
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  Speaker 5: do some morning, some afternoon, which the afternoon's nice for
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  Speaker 5: the temperature, but not so nice when we're getting off
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  Speaker 5: the field of like nine o'clock at night or something
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  Speaker 5: like that.
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  Speaker 4: But but all in all, its it's been very good.
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  Speaker 3: It's good to hear that the energy is up and
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  Speaker 3: the intensity is up. Because Flynn and I went to
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  Speaker 3: a practice last year. We brought a couple of you know,
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  Speaker 3: of our children and we get them all set up
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  Speaker 3: and we get them some of my high popsicles and
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  Speaker 3: they sit down and they blow the whistle and that
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  Speaker 3: was it.
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  Speaker 2: They were done.
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  Speaker 3: So I do think you need to get forged in
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  Speaker 3: the fire, a little bit calloused here in the South
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  Speaker 3: Louisiana heat. So it's good to hear that they're doing that,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, it's a part of the process. At
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  Speaker 3: least it wasn't it is it is, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: look is medical staff. On the one hand, it's nice
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  Speaker 3: to not have preseason injuries. There's nothing worse than a
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  Speaker 3: guy gets hurt before you even started. That's the most
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  Speaker 3: awful thing. But on the other hand, sometimes you got it.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta play ball.
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  Speaker 5: Before you play ball, you can't out you know, you
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  Speaker 5: can't just go out there and and all of a
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  Speaker 5: sudden turned the switch on day one if you haven't
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  Speaker 5: done it prior to that.
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  Speaker 4: So it find of that balance.
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  Speaker 5: And look, it's not as easy as it sounds because
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  Speaker 5: you don't want to kill the guys, but you gotta
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  Speaker 5: you gotta find a balance, you gotta get ready.
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  Speaker 6: Well, let me let me follow up on that, just
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  Speaker 6: from like a like a middle school, high school youth
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  Speaker 6: football standpoint, because like the last week, last five six
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  Speaker 6: days felt like it's been a little bit different level.
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  Speaker 6: Like I know this because I'm going out and watching
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  Speaker 6: hucking is that sixth grade team practice and they they're
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  Speaker 6: following all the rules and regulations, but at some point,
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  Speaker 6: like it's gotten so hot, I'm like, well, if they don't,
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  Speaker 6: you'll practice outside. At some point, they're not going to
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  Speaker 6: practice before like the first game, Like what's the And
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  Speaker 6: I know this is probably more of like a trainer
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  Speaker 6: like expertise when it comes like wet bulb and what
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  Speaker 6: the temperatures are and all that, but like, do you
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  Speaker 6: have like any advice for youth teams or high school
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  Speaker 6: teams that are trying to monitor and still like from
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  Speaker 6: the end, from the perspective of it, you still got
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  Speaker 6: to get your work in, but you also.
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  Speaker 2: Got to do it in a safe way.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a hard balance. And especially here in
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  Speaker 5: Baton Rouge. You know, we're we're really, really hot, you know,
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  Speaker 5: in the past the past week has been the extreme
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  Speaker 5: of that, and it is hard. You know, you're gonna
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  Speaker 5: see different rules and regulations. There's really not a universal
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  Speaker 5: agreed upon. This is the temperature. But you have to
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  Speaker 5: one have different standards. We can't have the same standard
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  Speaker 5: here that you're gonna have somewhere up north because if
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  Speaker 5: we use their standards, we would never practice your right
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  Speaker 5: point right. So so it's a hard balance. I think
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  Speaker 5: at some point you've got to get in the heat
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  Speaker 5: because you're gonna play games when it's hot. You've got
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  Speaker 5: to get acclimated to this heat or else you will
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  Speaker 5: have issues. So it is it is a tough balance,
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  Speaker 5: just like the balance between intensity, you know, pushing hard
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  Speaker 5: enough to get guys ready, but you don't want to
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  Speaker 5: beat them up too much. I think you got to
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  Speaker 5: you got to kind of work with it. And look,
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  Speaker 5: you've either got to practice a little earlier, a little later.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe it means you shorten the practice and say, look,
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  Speaker 5: we know it's this hot, so instead of going to
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  Speaker 5: our scripted hour and we're only going to do an hour.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I think you gotta just kind of find
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  Speaker 5: those modifications.
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  Speaker 3: I actually like the fact that they're practicing at different times,
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  Speaker 3: because I do think that's important.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna play games at different times.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna play a game at noon eastern kickoff, You're
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  Speaker 3: gonna play one at seven thirty eastern kickoff. It's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be a little bit of everything for LSU in the
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  Speaker 3: schedule this year. Do you think that helps maybe get
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  Speaker 3: you ready for the different times and kind of your
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  Speaker 3: process of getting ready to play a game or whatever
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  Speaker 3: it might be.
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  Speaker 5: I do, you know, and especially these are still young guys.
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  Speaker 5: These are still kids based these guys were in high
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  Speaker 5: school a lot of them last year, or you know,
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  Speaker 5: some of them are older and have the day's day
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  Speaker 5: and age. But yeah, but you know, they've you've got
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  Speaker 5: to learn how to be different. The season is different,
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  Speaker 5: and I do think that's one thing that I seem
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  Speaker 5: to see with the way that coach Kiffen does practice
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  Speaker 5: and does really the whole, the whole day to day
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  Speaker 5: the way he runs things is it not always as consistent, which,
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  Speaker 5: on the one hand, can be a little bit more
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  Speaker 5: difficult if you're very you know, oriented on the process
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  Speaker 5: and you're like, hey, I like knowing every day.
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  Speaker 4: I get that side of it.
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  Speaker 5: But on the other hand, to your point, that's not
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  Speaker 5: how the season's gonna go. We're gonna have things that
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  Speaker 5: come up different game times. You're gonna have and especially
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  Speaker 5: if you're make into posts as only as you get
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  Speaker 5: more bizarre and different if that happens. So I think
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  Speaker 5: I think shaking it up a little bit, making the
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  Speaker 5: guys adaptable, I think there is probably something to that.
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  Speaker 2: Mmm. I like that's the way that I liked it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the Yeah, the body. It adaptation is
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  Speaker 6: like something that the body can get used to it
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  Speaker 6: and it can learn how to adapt to different environments,
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  Speaker 6: different climates, different and it it makes you better during
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  Speaker 6: the game for it, and like kind of like you said,
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  Speaker 6: it's like these like these youth football you have to go,
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  Speaker 6: like the balance is so hard because you got to
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  Speaker 6: go and get experience or you're gonna have issues in
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  Speaker 6: the game, like they're not gonna cancel the game because
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  Speaker 6: it's too hot. You can cancel practice because it's safe
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  Speaker 6: and you and you want, like that's the number one
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  Speaker 6: thing you gotta do with it in football is make
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  Speaker 6: sure the players are safe. But that also means pushing
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  Speaker 6: them a little bit because in the game, like like
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  Speaker 6: we said, it's like they're not going to cancel it,
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  Speaker 6: So you have to be used to If you haven't
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  Speaker 6: been doing those things and pushed yourself in practice, it's
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  Speaker 6: gonna put you in an unsafe position during the game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 5: And that's and you know, and look, in the job
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  Speaker 5: that I do is sports medicine, that's part of what
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  Speaker 5: we have to kind of realize is different. You don't
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  Speaker 5: treat sports medicine exactly like regular medicine, and sometimes that
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  Speaker 5: there's a little bit of disconnect there. But you have
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  Speaker 5: to be aware of the circumstances. If I held every
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  Speaker 5: kid out that had an injury, you wouldn't be able
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  Speaker 5: to feel the team for most sports once you get
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  Speaker 5: midway into a season, So there is finding that line.
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  Speaker 5: It's the same thing with all these things, what are
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  Speaker 5: you comfortable with and what do you not And I
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  Speaker 5: think you've got to go to test these kids though,
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  Speaker 5: especially or else they're not going to be ready.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Now, let's transition to the New Orleans Saints.
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  Speaker 2: And let's dive into the New Orleans Saints.
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  Speaker 3: Jordan Tyson gonna be the first thing that we talk about. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 3: another soft tissue hamstring injury.
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  Speaker 2: This one's gonna keep him out for an extended.
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  Speaker 3: Period of time, and it was the cause for concern
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  Speaker 3: when you drafted him. The talents there. You saw it,
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  Speaker 3: we saw it, everybody saw it. But he did miss
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  Speaker 3: time and Doc We've talked about this so many times,
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  Speaker 3: but it just feels like the soft tissue guys.
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  Speaker 2: Can never get over the hump.
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  Speaker 3: They can't ever find their way to, you know, solidifying
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  Speaker 3: that area of their body, strengthening that part of their body.
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  Speaker 2: It just feels like it just happens time and time again.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a hard injury. And I didn't see the
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  Speaker 5: actual video or anything of this. I'm not sure if
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  Speaker 5: it was out there, but I did kind of read
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  Speaker 5: the report and it sounds like this is more of
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  Speaker 5: a new injury where he slipped, his leg was extended,
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  Speaker 5: you know, so it wasn't necessarily that he reaggravated the
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  Speaker 5: same injury. But at the same time, this is a
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  Speaker 5: guy who know has had them, he has that history.
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  Speaker 5: And to your point, I always worry about these guys,
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  Speaker 5: you know, And I'm sure for for anybody that's a
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  Speaker 5: New Orleans sports fan, hearing another hamstring injury that's gonna
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  Speaker 5: keep one of your stars out, it is not what
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  Speaker 5: you want to hear, because you know, it's been sort
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  Speaker 5: of a plague down there. I feel like, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: I just you know, realistic, probably bad luck, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: a fast guy playing in a speed position who's had
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  Speaker 5: this history, who then has a new injury that sounds
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  Speaker 5: like a kind of a bad injury. But it's gonna
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  Speaker 5: be at least two months, and they're already putting that
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  Speaker 5: out there, you know, it is concerning.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and obviously, like you said, like you're speculating, like
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  Speaker 3: what it could be for a hamshin that keeps you
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  Speaker 3: out two months?
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  Speaker 2: What great is that? Yeah? Like it has to be
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  Speaker 2: as close to a terror as yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean if with without knowing, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: would guess probably on the high grade two. Uh so
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  Speaker 5: you know, grade one is kind of the mile, with
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  Speaker 5: grade two probably has the widest variance, So you can
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  Speaker 5: have a kind of a mile or grade two all
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  Speaker 5: the way to a severe grade too, And that's probably
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  Speaker 5: i'd say, because usually a grade three is when it
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  Speaker 5: divorces off the bone, right, and that's one where when oftentimes,
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  Speaker 5: especially for a speed guy, this, ye're gonna be talking
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  Speaker 5: of surgery and that would be a you know, five
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  Speaker 5: month plus recovery. So so if they're saying two months,
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  Speaker 5: that always already tells me they're not looking at surgery.
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  Speaker 4: They're but they also probably are seeing it.
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  Speaker 5: You know that he's got a moderate tear in the
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  Speaker 5: muscle and that's what you know grade to probably even indicate,
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  Speaker 5: and that's gonna have to heal.
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  Speaker 6: When you think about this and they're saying a new
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  Speaker 6: injury to a hamstring and not something that has been
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  Speaker 6: lingering or a past hamstring injury, is that a good
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  Speaker 6: sign or would you rather rehurt what's already been hurt?
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  Speaker 6: Like is it a good thing for Saint Spans? They
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  Speaker 6: hear like it's a new hamstring issue.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the honest answer, I have no idea.
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  Speaker 5: It's one of those questions that when we see that
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  Speaker 5: I always kind of even ask it on myself.
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  Speaker 4: Or is it better that this is new or is
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  Speaker 4: this is it worse?
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  Speaker 5: And you know, I guess, I guess maybe better if
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  Speaker 5: I had to fall on one side of it, at
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  Speaker 5: least we say, Okay, this one had a mechanism that
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  Speaker 5: makes a lot of sense from the description I saw.
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  Speaker 4: This one was an injury that you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, probably if anybody has that same mechanism would probably
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  Speaker 5: have a hamstring injury. So maybe that's a good thing
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  Speaker 5: that this seems to kind of fit more with not
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  Speaker 5: just hey, I'm an injury prone hamstring guy. Maybe, But
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  Speaker 5: at the same time, then again, you can also argue
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  Speaker 5: announce a new injury, maybe it's a new spot, and
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  Speaker 5: maybe this is only to make those issues worse. But
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna lean more on the optimistic side and say
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  Speaker 5: it's more positive.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then start thinking about like can you do anything?
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  Speaker 3: I guess there's just like anything or it's just like
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  Speaker 3: the twitchy guys like this and we talk about it
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  Speaker 3: all the time. With Zion Williamson, it's like he's almost
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  Speaker 3: too explosive for his body, like his body can't keep
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  Speaker 3: up with the explosion.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes does that just happen?
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  Speaker 4: I think sometimes it does.
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  Speaker 5: Now obviously, yes, there's lots of things we can do,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, there's a lot with rehab, there's a
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  Speaker 5: lot with training, there's a lot with flexibility. There's a
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  Speaker 5: lot that goes into you know, even like nutrition and
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  Speaker 5: hydration and how do we treat these guys medically or
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  Speaker 5: the things that we can do, you know, different types
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  Speaker 5: of treatments and injections and dry needling and all these
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  Speaker 5: different things that we potentially can do that are gonna
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  Speaker 5: help it maybe recover a little faster, maybe decrease the
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  Speaker 5: risk that it happens again, but you're not going to
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  Speaker 5: remove that risk. I think you know a guy like him,
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  Speaker 5: he's always gonna have a risk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not sure the best way to ask this question,
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  Speaker 6: but I have like a thought, and I think I
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  Speaker 6: feel that some guys are more inclined to be injured
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  Speaker 6: at a certain age than others. Like is there anything
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  Speaker 6: to do with like a body's maturity. Maybe parts of
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  Speaker 6: his body like get into a mature level before other parts.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about this with like DJ.
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  Speaker 6: Lagway when he like he was he grew so fast,
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  Speaker 6: like he always had these different injuries.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I.
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  Speaker 6: Remember being like late LSU early NFL career, I would
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  Speaker 6: like get these like weird back problems and like I
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  Speaker 6: don't know what happened, but all of a sudden a
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  Speaker 6: couple years later, I never got it again. I just
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  Speaker 6: figured my body was like kind of at a mature
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  Speaker 6: level at that point. Is there anything that, like you
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  Speaker 6: see younger guys that have to meet their bodies just
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  Speaker 6: hasn't caught up to other parts of their body, and
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  Speaker 6: that they just there they have a higher proclivity of
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  Speaker 6: getting a certain type of injury.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's definitely a thing.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I'm not aware of these officials statistics on that.
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  Speaker 2: Like with Zion with that stuff.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, it's like it's his body just hasn't caught
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  Speaker 6: up to everything else.
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  Speaker 5: And I think sometimes that there is you see this
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  Speaker 5: a lot of these Like as much as we say,
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  Speaker 5: oh these hamstrew things Linger, there's a lot of guys
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  Speaker 5: if you go back and look earlier in their career,
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  Speaker 5: had them, and then later on maybe they didn't. You know,
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  Speaker 5: we see a lot I tell you know a lot
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  Speaker 5: of these people that are coming into the clinical a
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  Speaker 5: lot with their kids. And you think about the way
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  Speaker 5: the body grows, and you would think that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: a fifteen year old, you know, you're fifteen, you should
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  Speaker 5: be super flexible, right, But then I mean, anybody that
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  Speaker 5: has a fifteen year old, they are not because they're
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  Speaker 5: growing so much around that that timeline. And so when
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  Speaker 5: you're growing that fast, everything is tighter, Like to your point,
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  Speaker 5: the body is not caught up. You haven't really settled
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  Speaker 5: into yourself yet, and that can I think for some
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  Speaker 5: people it does take longer, you know, and especially these
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  Speaker 5: guys that are just these behemoth freaks that are just giants,
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  Speaker 5: you know, so for them, I think it's that much
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  Speaker 5: more exaggerated. So I do think there is something to
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  Speaker 5: be said for Yes, you will sort of grow out
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  Speaker 5: of some of these things, but you know, only so much.
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  Speaker 2: Too the same. I mean, he's a fresh twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: He just turned twenty two.
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  Speaker 6: Like I'm just like, this is so early as Krell
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  Speaker 6: want to be hopeful for the future, It's like, is
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  Speaker 6: this something that he might grow out?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I get it's a hamstring issue. He's fast,
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  Speaker 6: he's twitchy. I was just hoping there were some quarters.
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  Speaker 5: I hope so, and I think so if I had
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  Speaker 5: to bet, you know, look, I'm you never have bet
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  Speaker 5: on the negative. But you know, I assume that you'll
• 13:15
  Speaker 5: see him become more available over the next few years.
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: I assume he'll be a guy that maybe still has
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: some of these issues, but probably less frequent.
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: You know, a lot of times you see that the
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  Speaker 4: guys do you adjust, They adjust to the schedule, they
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  Speaker 4: adjust to the training, they adjust to their body. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, that's what we hope for.
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  Speaker 3: At least everybody heals differently too, and the rehab goes different.
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: And I think of a case of so, Patrick Mahomes
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  Speaker 3: tears his LCL and his a CL in December. I
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  Speaker 3: was at Chiefs camp last week, and he looked like
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes. He had no limitations moving side, inside, up
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: and down any direction.
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  Speaker 2: He looked like Patrick Mahomes.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: And then you have a league neighbors who's an elite
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: athlete tears his way before Mahomes in the season, but
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  Speaker 3: has complication, has to go back in, get scar tissue removed.
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  Speaker 3: He's got a limp in the summertime, and they're trying
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: to get him back on the field now. So and
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: that we know that's an elite athlete, So everybody heals
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: a little bit differently. The rehab process is different for
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: everyone as well. Yeah, it's very true. I tell patients
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  Speaker 3: all the time. You know, Look, the human body typically
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  Speaker 3: doesn't read the.
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  Speaker 5: Anatomy and physiology textbooks, which and my point is that
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: we're all different, and you'll see things that just don't
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: make sense in one athlete or one patient. And and look,
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: I've seen that way too many times in my career
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: now to say oh, yeah that's fluky, or oh that's
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: you know, they're they're faking or or something just we
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: all heal differently, we all hear a different rate. And
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: then every injury is different, even every knee injury. Even
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: even you know, two torn acls are not going to.
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  Speaker 4: Be exactly the same.
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: Maybe one's got a little bit more of a bone contusion,
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: a little more cartilage damage than the other. Uh So
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: there's a lot that goes into it. And to your point, yeah,
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: we're all just we're all very different. That's part of
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: what makes medicine difficult.
• 14:52
  Speaker 6: Doc, Is it okay to do push ups every day?
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: My peck's starting to get a little tight on the
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: right side.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: Well, you know it's it's it's as we get a
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: or you might have a little more cautious.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: This guy out here, Hey, everybody, I do push up bruh,
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: A big deal tries.
• 15:07
  Speaker 6: Oh you know, like you know, you go bench bress,
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: you don't do what you benching like you know, it
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: got a little tight today when I was doing it.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: It's okay to do them at over forty I think,
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: so okay, But every day, well just I didn't know
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: if it adn't split it up every other day for
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: we're good pectoral health.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: There's a argument that you got to let the body
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: recover too, So let's muscle groups recover.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: You know, so there is a reason I say, we
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: don't trench every day. So but then also push ups
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: a little different.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: So and he bounce back from that. Okay, I want
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: to I want to talk just real quick. Oh n
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: let's you question real quick.
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: I would say, like, would you say, top to bottom
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: on the whole team, we got pretty healthy feet, like
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: no lingering foot issues anywhere on the team.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, top to bottom pretty good.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: You know, the normal camp stuff, the blisters all that,
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: but otherwise good feet.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was what make sure there's no injured feet
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: up some.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: Of There's been a lot of interest in foot injuries
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: this this offseason. I'm not sure why.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: It's like it was just a random questions thing random, Hey,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: what's funny? Though, well done by you, but your second
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: for doc. The blisters in camp, God.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: The they're horrible.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: They're horrible.
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: I see these guys walking around in their slides and
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: I look at their feet and oh, I'm not envious.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: I remember those days.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: So much that seconds in jail. Oh, they are terrible.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: And I mean, I know it's it's not a big injury,
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: and the people some of the people who haven't experienced
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: that out there are probably laughing, and no they're awful.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Oh no, we're not talking about like a normal blood.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: These things they're talking about like dinosaur blisters. They are terrible.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Oh they were. I don't even think about it. Put
• 16:33
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• 16:34
  Speaker 6: Like you had to get that. You get those little
• 16:36
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• 16:38
  Speaker 6: that cool jail and they put it and you got
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: to put the band aid over the top of it
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: and then wrap it. Then you got to wrap it yourhead. Yeah,
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: because you yeah, me and you both we had Peyton
• 16:47
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• 16:50
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  Speaker 4: Thirteen cleet actually fitting in there.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Docu the man. We appreciate it. I'm glad to be
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: back with you. Look forward to it every single week.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: And we'll do it again next Wednesday.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Sounds great. All right, we'll take a break.
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  Speaker 3: is so wild for me to think about like having
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: hamstrings that can't stay healthy because I wasn't twitchy enough
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: to pull a hamstring.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, you know what I mean.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: And so like for me, I'm like, it's a hamstring
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  Speaker 3: and if you got one, just work through it.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: So it's a foreign thing for me.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah right, look at that first saw it.
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  Speaker 2: So It's hard for.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Me to like imagine just not being able to keep
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: your hamstring healthy. But I know it's real. I know
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: it's a thing. I know it's something Jordan Tyson has
• 20:01
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  Speaker 3: I think it's the perfect one. He's right down the street.
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  Speaker 3: He's in the same building as Jordan Tyson. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: they're there next to each other, and he's just like
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: the things that he does with his body, his hamstrings can't.
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  Speaker 4: Keep up with.
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  Speaker 3: And it feels like that with Jordan Tyson. I don't
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: know if it's his gait. I don't know if it's
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: just the twitch like, I don't know what it is.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: But when he's on the field and healthy, you know
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: exactly why he was a top ten pick. The risk
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: that went into it, unfortunately though, has shown up multiple
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: times already.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then that's what Nick said yesterday.
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: Being at every practice, Nick watching him every rep, he
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: basically said, I can't overstate enough how good he was,
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: how impressive he was. He's one of those guys and
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: one of the few times that you draft somebody and
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: within the first five minutes of the first practice he's
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: out there you're like, Okay, that's different, and that's that guy.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: And look he just turned twenty two. Okay, So I
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: do think there is hopefully an age component to this.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: He's got a lot of time left in his prime.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: This is so early. I know the overreaction is real,
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: and I know the overreaction is warranted, but I'm gonna
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: be hopeful because I want to see a route runner
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: like that in the NFL. I want to see what
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: he can do in the NFL. It's not just like
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: a saint thing, like I want the best talent out there. So,
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: you know, here's the hope that he can't get hill.
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: Here's the hope in that his body matures a little
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: bit more and catches up with everything else. Here's the hope,
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: and that he can stay healthy and get into an
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: NFL offseason program a full year and come back and
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: play seventeen games next season.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: He's not gonna do it this year.
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: It remains to be seeing how many he can actually
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: play at full speed.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Hopefully it's a lot.
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: Hopefully he comes back into September, mid October, whenever it is,
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: and he plays the rest of the games.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's reality.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: I don't know if that's realistic to think that he
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: would do that or potentially do that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: It's very hopeful.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I mean if he can get like, is
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: it a win at this point?
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Is it a win?
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: If you can get what ten games out of him?
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Is it a win? Like fully healthy?
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Probably all four quarters ten quarters. You're never games. And
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I hate to say it like this, I don't think
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: you're ever gonna get seventeen out of him.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I just don't think you are. And it's hard to
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: get seventeen out of any I.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Agree with you that receiver, right, and you're probably like,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: you're hoping to average fourteen a year.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: That's just what it is.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: That was the risk reward when you drafted him, And
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: you're right, it's hard to get seventeen out of any receiver.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: But if you can get fourteen.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: So like this year, where're at right now, it feels
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: like ten might be a win. And I hate saying
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: that because it doesn't sound great. You're almost missing half
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: the games, but you're probably right now. I will say
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: what I think Mickey Loomis did a fantastic job of
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: was taking the chance, being okay, taking the risk to
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: draft Jordan because he was so electric. You wanted a
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: top ten receiver. He was the only one in this
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: draft that I thought was top ten. But because of
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: his injury history, you also draft Lance in the fourth
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: round and Brown in the sixth round. You protect yourself
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: a little bit because you've had years where you've had
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: some uber drivers playing receiver at the end of the year,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: and you did not want that to happen again if
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Jordan Tyson was out. So I do think that you're
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: set up so much better than you have been in
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: the past because you have Chris Olave.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Devon Veley has been really good.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: As that turned out to be a good trade.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, at the time, we're like a fourth rounder for
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: a guy that's not even playing he was injured like
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: he was was Mickey playing chess, playing checkers. I think
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: I think that's the case because Jacksonville couldn't cover him
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: the other day. So, like, you still have four very
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: talented receivers, and look, they like Kevin Austin Jr. He
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: was out there a ton, Trey Palmer was out there
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: a ton with some guys that are going to be
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: on the fifty three, Like they weren't just in there
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: with the guys that aren't.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Gonna make the team.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: So the receiver room is set up much better than
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: it has been in the past, even with the Jordan
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Tyson injury, because I think, now I don't know this
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: to be fact, I think they probably looked at it
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: and said, we know the history here, we have to
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: protect ourselves. And so you go get a couple of
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: receivers and certainly very on Brown. When you walk into
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: the doors at Saints training camp, you can't go five
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: feet without hearing his name.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: So he's been impressive.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: And I think that's why you do it in the draft,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: knowing that there's a chance that Tyson might not be
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: fully healthy for the year, and here we.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: Are, yeah, and if he is, like, it's a grand
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: slam pick, and it's a grand slam room. And I
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: am I'm always very hesitant to say any rookies going
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: to be good or make a big impact in like
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: the overall wide receiver room or d B room, Like
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: I'm always heading like, you got to show me first,
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: you got to become a vet. Based on the short
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: clips that I saw from him running routes, like if
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: he is healthy and a lave is healthy, the way
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: that reports are coming out how he's playing, like you
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: start to become I'm not going to say, like one
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: of the best receiving corps in the NFL, but I
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: mean you're starting to talk about creeping into that top
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: ten range and like you're receiving corps, maybe I mean
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: top fifteen.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: For sure, he is healthy because.
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: Nick told us yesterday last week against Jacksonville, Chris Lave
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: is best.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Player on the field.
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: He lost the look good Yester Dravis Hunter. Yesterday he
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: made the contested catch over Caleb Downs like he usually
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: doing what people asked him to do. And then like
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: Frice Lance, I don't know if it was Nick or
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: Rossby whoever put out that he was running his wide
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: receiver to yesterday. A guy you got out of the
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: fourth round. Twenty five touchdowns the last two years at
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: North Dakota State.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: He's a big time player.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: And again, I think the Saints went in with a
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: purpose in this draft. They knew they had to get
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: better at the position, y'all. The fact that Tyler Shuck
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: did what he did last year to end the season
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: with who he was throwing to is the most impressive
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: part of it all.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: It's the most impressive.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: There's gonna be guys that he was throwing to that
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: were in the starting eleven personnel that won't be in
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: the NFL maybe next year. Some of them aren't even
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: in the NFL right now in training camp, So you
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: had to protect yourself and I think they did a
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: good job.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Are idiot either one of those guys Jordan Tyson.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: As far as the talent level, No, THEO is the
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: reason that they're fourth and six rounders. They got talent though,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: they do have a skill set. And now it's on
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Kellen Moore Doug nuss Meyer to put a game plan
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: together that if Jordan Tyson is out for the first
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: six weeks of the season whatever it ends up being,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: that you can get the most out of those young players,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: because I agree with you, Matt, they can't be the stars,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: but they can be complimentary to the star, which is
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Chris Alave.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Absolutely so Yeah.
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: If I just hope he gets I hope he gets back.
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: If we got I think at this point, if you
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: get ten games out of Jordan Tyson, it's a big
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: it's a big time victory, like and you only need
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: nine or ten wins to probably win the division, right.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Think ten wins get gets you there? Ten wins you
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: are hosting a playoff game in New Orleans.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, and I think the Saints do have
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: the team to do that, even with this injury to
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Jordan Tyson, something we hadn't even talked about that at
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: some point we can come back to Alvin Kamara right
• 27:14
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• 27:19
  Speaker 3: like he has a step that he hasn't had in
• 27:21
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• 27:23
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• 27:26
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• 27:29
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• 27:33
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• 27:36
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• 27:40
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  Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off the
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  Speaker 9: I know he know he you know, sue you forever
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  Speaker 2: I heard somebody say, Judge, I'm gonna need a soup.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna need a coop.
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  Speaker 3: I don't need a roof flying and beat the juice,
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  Speaker 9: I got the float trying to see the roof didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Well, all right, welcome back in TB. Well, just talked
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: really nice about Alvin Kamara. Then we got nicked up yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was nothing. It turns out he's gonna
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: miss at least a month the spring m c L.
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  Speaker 3: Did we just curse him?
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Maybe like literally we said it.
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  Speaker 3: And then as we finish our commercial read Chef, he
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  Speaker 3: puts out the news.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna miss this is it hurts you? He heard
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  Speaker 2: you go, that's what did it? There goes this other one.
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  Speaker 8: Right there, No, Matt, I was totally different. Break dude,
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  Speaker 8: Kendre is gonna mess around to make this team again. Boy,
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  Speaker 8: it just seems so certain that he didn't have a shot,
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: but estimate got banged up in the game. Now Kamara's
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: out for a month, like you got to keep him around. Well,
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: that's something changes. And then he was miraculously back at
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: practice shoes.
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  Speaker 6: Every team in the end, there's thirty two teams dealing
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: with injuries, right, there's thirty two teams putting out announcements
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: that so and so is out for a couple of weeks.
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: It just feels like the Saints can't afford to have this,
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: you know, start had like this can't be a trend
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: that starting now. Now, I guess relatively ish healthy. I
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: know the first day wasn't great for training camp with
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: the Saints, but like I guess, at this point, I
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: felt like it's been relatively okay, right, and now we
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: get two like back to back days of getting folks
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: and key personnel that on offense. So I guess the
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: silver lining we're gonna keep going back to, Jake is
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: you still have talent and look at what they did last.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Year at the end with nobody around Tyler Scheck.
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: That's that's the narrative we're gonna keep going back to
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  Speaker 6: until the kickoff in Week one. Until that point, we're
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: gonna keep talking about that if these injuries keep popping up,
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: that's the only thing to be hopeful for.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I guess, you know, perfect nail it. You did.
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  Speaker 7: Stop, you're gonna keep all of them are gonna go
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: down every time you do that.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't do that like a voodoo man. I really
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  Speaker 2: thought like it was gonna be like a couple of
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: day things. Yeah, a month, all right, somebody's.
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  Speaker 7: Weapons breakout stars for the Saints this season, Kendre Miller
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  Speaker 7: and bub means, Yeah, those are.
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  Speaker 3: Of a college football player, So like it's not crazy
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  Speaker 3: to say he would.
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  Speaker 6: Be you would you would rather that month start right
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  Speaker 6: now than start a.
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  Speaker 4: Month a month from now? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, sons, Yeah, it'd be about a two week
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  Speaker 2: season start.
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  Speaker 7: First round draft pick out for two months, the veteran
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: of the running back room out for a month. But
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: you're right, I'd rather have a mountain now.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Then.
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  Speaker 6: It's it's not a killer. I mean, it's a piece
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: that you want to have. But like there was times
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: during the off season we didn't even think we would
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: have tomorrow on the train, right, So look, look there's
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: there is some silver line in there. It's not like
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: a I mean it's a blow, but it's not a
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: not a depth and I.
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: Think you did a good job at building depth at
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: both of those positions.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Like this is not.
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: dB where you're thin line where you don't know what's
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: going to happen outside of the top five.
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  Speaker 2: Like running back receiver. I think you can survive this.
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  Speaker 3: So we're back, So you're gonna have have you know,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: ty Chandler certainly looked good and what he.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Can do seems a game like that adds value, so
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  Speaker 2: you sign him.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's certainly got a lot of carries in
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: the NFL.
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  Speaker 8: So Devin Neil was back yesterday with Kendre they were
• 33:13
  Speaker 8: both back, So you got you still got a chain.
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  Speaker 8: I think all your guess is going to be fine.
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: That's still five backs right there.
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  Speaker 2: Just rump the brakes on. It is a chan Hey,
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  Speaker 7: That's a respect on.
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  Speaker 2: With some respect on that name.
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  Speaker 3: Although Dan Morgan, who is the GM of the Carolina Panthers,
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  Speaker 3: did tell me he's like, m hm, he's because he's
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  Speaker 3: got Trevor.
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  Speaker 2: He's got the brother. He goes he's going to be
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  Speaker 2: Trevor and for us, okay, So I was I was
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  Speaker 3: I talked with like Travis about and he's just like, like,
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  Speaker 2: She's always been this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just like Trevor Lawrence and Davo didn't get
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  Speaker 2: It's not the first time we've seen that. By the
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  Speaker 7: I mean we talked about Rihanna.
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  Speaker 3: Garantano, the old quarterback for Tennessee seven years.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they say.
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  Speaker 7: I guess read herself said that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, makes sense.
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  Speaker 7: But I think she just kind of accepted that everybody
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  Speaker 2: Rihanna. Rihanna's tough better Yeah, mo exotic. I love Rihanna.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like as well, Oh, she'd come back for Sea.
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  Speaker 7: She hasn't made music since like twenty sixteen. Really, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: she's just been making like make up. I think she
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  Speaker 2: She had a couple of children. If has like four.
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  Speaker 4: Who is this?
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  Speaker 2: We've just been talking about it. I'll thought, y'all move
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  Speaker 8: Really good nickname. She was really good at Super Bowl
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  Speaker 3: I think we're a little all on edge because another injury.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, if you're a good athlete, you're gonna get it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I remember having to wear like the fattest knee brace
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get to misspractice.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but again, yours is more from contact, not from
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  Speaker 2: Do you think I think you're forgetting who's faster between us? Too?
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  Speaker 3: Matthew, how do you feel about the quarterback play in
• 37:31
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  Speaker 3: Tyler Shuck and Spencer Rattler were just dison it up.
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  Speaker 3: And I know Rattler had a fumble in the preseason
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  Speaker 3: that everybody Rattler feels like a player that for some reason,
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  Speaker 3: like diehard Saints fans just will not get behind.
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  Speaker 7: No, No, he's which is crazy because I'm a Saints
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  Speaker 6: Love him for whatever, and there's I think a lot
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  Speaker 6: of things are split. I think with a lot of
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  Speaker 6: people he's just worn out. Its welcome, you know, it weird,
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  Speaker 6: which is weird.
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  Speaker 7: It's truly done anything to wear it out. I mean
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  Speaker 7: he was just at that Team Kate event, like raising
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  Speaker 7: awareness for this little girl that needs a bone marrow?
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  Speaker 7: Is that not good enough for y'all?
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  Speaker 2: I love Spencer Rowler. I think I think he's got
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  Speaker 2: a future in the NFL. It's not with the Saints.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, They've got their guy in Tyler Shuba. That's okay.
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  Speaker 7: Who said the Jets the other day?
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  Speaker 5: Me?
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  Speaker 3: I said, I said that to my coast on the NFL,
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  Speaker 3: and Pat worked for the Jets for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: It was like multiple years. You guys, don't do that
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  Speaker 2: to him that man like but like the Jets have weapons.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they do.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they drafted some.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that Mickey would be willing to right
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: now move on from Spencer because I kind of asked
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: him about it the other day. We really like where
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  Speaker 3: our quarterback room is right now, He goes, last year,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I go, yeah, I was here last year. We interviewed
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: three quarterbacks because you didn't know who the guy was.
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  Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, look at where we're at now. We
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  Speaker 3: feel really good about where we're at, he said, we
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  Speaker 3: got three guys that we feel like are NFL players.
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: I thought the quarterback play was really good the other day, obviously,
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: Zach Wilson was super fun to watch.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: That.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: Like again, the second half of preseason games, especially like
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  Speaker 6: Week one, it's really exciting. It's it's fun to watch
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: because people are making plays. You see breakdown, you see
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: bus you you you uh. You see quarterbacks with that
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: are have a really good skill set, that can that
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: have an opportunity to play to make a lot of plays,
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: and he certainly did. He took advantage of every opportunity
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: that he had and made good throws. Was very accurate.
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: You know, I thought Spencer played played like he like
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: I kind of expected to. Like early first preseason game,
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: you got your starters out there, you're playing against the
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: starting defense. Again, they're they're not going to starting defenses
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: and preseason aren't going to give away anything deep when
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: they're playing base cover three, cover four. So he hit
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  Speaker 6: the open guy. Sometimes it didn't win enough for a
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: first down, like he I think he was eight eleven
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: for what forty two yards forty eight yards something like that. Uh,
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: can't make the can't make a play happen with a
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: you can't throw the ball to estimate that if the
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: kid had blown out his knee.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Can't do that.
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: Those two things, and you put those two things at
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: a short sample size. But like we said, like everything
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: in a game like that, when you practiced against the
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: Jaguars for a couple of days, the coaches and evaluators
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: and the people the front office folks.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: They are going to make their decisions.
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: Roster decisions, depth chart decisions based on the practice more
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: so than just the game. So that's everything's a calculation, right,
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: everything is. And but what they were able to do
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: in practice is going to go so much further than
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: what they were able to do in the game.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: And I thought in the game.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: I thought Spencer played, took what he was given and
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: didn't press the ball down the field. Because you have
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: starting NFL defensive backs that went to the playoffs last
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: year back playing cover three and taking away the deep
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: part of the field.
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  Speaker 3: And Zach Wilson should probably as a number two overall
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: pick with his talent, he should go out there and
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: be successful against who he was going against.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Now, you still got to go do it.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Credit to him. Yeah, No, I thought he did great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I thought if every quarterback for the Saints plays really well, that's.
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  Speaker 4: Great for the Saints.
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  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 6: I don't see why anybody would think otherwise, and I
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• 44:54
  Speaker 3: my home studio. Like that's that's that's pretty normal for
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: me do this show. I have lunch with Katie and
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: and then I do the afternoon show from home.
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  Speaker 2: So we feel good to do it from real nice with.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: My you know, my giant coffee in hand and five
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: minute breaks we have and I can just get out
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: see how everybody's day was at school. Then have a
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: little flag football practice after today, because I'm way behind
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: that flag football starts today. Well, we have one practical
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: two practices so far. But you know there was a
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: time when when they used to start.
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  Speaker 6: Like fourth of July time, Like oh yeah, usually been
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: practicing for about four months.
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  Speaker 2: But are you doing that? Note?
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, this is the first year in a while we
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: hadn't done flag football because we got the helmets on
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: this year.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: How's huck like in the helmet bro let me? We
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: tried to warn him the other day.
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: It has been hot, hot the last few days, and
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: like they're doing all the right things.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: That's why I was asking docs.
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: It's so fresh on my mind, like they are if
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: it gets to a certain level, like the middle school
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: kids they can't be like the varsity can go out
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: there with like no helmets and stuff on, but like
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: they have to. They're very regulated when it comes to
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: the heat.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: And it's a.
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: But yesterday they got out there and they did a
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: lot with just helmets on or without without them on,
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: and they put them on for a little bit and
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: did a little bit of tackling. But it's been great, man,
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: it's been fun. No like tears or no sadness like
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: no football price is never fun like as long as
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: it's not like miserable, you know what I mean?
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Real quick? When'd you ever have fun in practice?
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't happen. Now, does Huck have the red
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: mark on his forehead?
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: No? New technology is incredible and that is remarkable. All right,
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  Speaker 2: we'll be back out number three of OTV.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Off the bench.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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