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Bengals Booth Podcast: September · Bengals Booth Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading
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  Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The do you remember the twenty
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  Speaker 1: first nine of September audition as the Bengals look to
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  Speaker 1: quickly put that date and Sunday's game behind them and
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  Speaker 1: move on after a lopsided loss to the Vikings. Coming
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  Speaker 1: up radio replays, locker room comments, and postgame analysis from
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  Speaker 1: the greatest thing since Kyle Brandt's full length interview with
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  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Last week, before the Jacksonville game, the NFL
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  Speaker 1: Network aired a three minute and thirty second interview with
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals quarterback that was done by Kyle Brandt, But
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  Speaker 1: after that version aired on TV, Kyle shared what he
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  Speaker 1: called the director's cut on social media. It's sixteen minutes
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  Speaker 1: long and exceptional. Kyle clearly gave a lot of thought
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  Speaker 1: to his questions, made Joe comfortable and got him to
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  Speaker 1: open up. I think I've seen just about every long
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  Speaker 1: interview that Joe has done since twenty twenty, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't think anybody has done it better. If you haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen it yet, just search for Joe Burrow Director's Cut.
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  Speaker 1: This is a podcast for Bengals fans, so I'm guessing
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  Speaker 1: that you don't want to hear too many radio replays
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  Speaker 1: from Sunday's game in Minneapolis, so let's boil it down
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  Speaker 1: to just a few key plays.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: On second and ten, Browning, moving around in the pocket,
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  Speaker 1: begins scrambling, throws a terrible throw, and it is intercepted
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  Speaker 1: by Isaiah Rodgers. He's sprinting up the sideline into Bengals
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  Speaker 1: territory and on his way to the end zone. Touchdown
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota eighty six yards on the runback by Isaiah Rogers.
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  Speaker 1: In fairness to Jake Browning, I didn't see it live,
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  Speaker 1: but that pass was tipped ever so slightly by safety
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  Speaker 1: Harrison Smith, so the throw itself wasn't terrible, just the
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  Speaker 1: end result. The Bengals fell behind seventeen to nothing before
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  Speaker 1: Evan McPherson booted a forty five yard field goal about
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  Speaker 1: five minutes left in the half. The defense promptly forced
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  Speaker 1: a three and out that included a sack by Chris Jenkins.
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  Speaker 1: He had one and a half in the game, and
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals offense drove to the Minnesota thirty six with
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  Speaker 1: a chance to score again before getting the ball back
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  Speaker 1: to begin the third quarter. Two minutes to go in
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  Speaker 1: the half, Browning waiting for a shotgun snap with Drew
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  Speaker 1: Sample in the backfield to block Browning with a quick
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  Speaker 1: pass out to the right, It is caught by Fant
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  Speaker 1: He gets hit around the shoulders and loses the ball.
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  Speaker 1: The Vikings are running it back and it looks like
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  Speaker 1: they'll take it to the house. Isaiah Rodgers scored on
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  Speaker 1: a pick six, and now he scores on a puffle
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  Speaker 1: recovery That sixty six yard run back made it twenty
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  Speaker 1: four to three and killed any momentum the Bengals were building.
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  Speaker 1: Here's Jake Browning.
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  Speaker 3: Right for the half is really when it's I think
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  Speaker 3: it's snowballed. And so, yeah, you're down.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was seventeen to three.
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  Speaker 3: We're driving, We're gonna get the ball after halftime, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like we kind of got into a rhythm
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  Speaker 3: a little bit across the fifty and you know, ended
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  Speaker 3: up having another and so, you know, I think just
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  Speaker 3: in general, I mean, anytime you turn the ball over
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  Speaker 3: that much, you're gonna you're gonna get blown out. And
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  Speaker 3: it's and that's exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Two more lost fumbles in the second quarter and an
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  Speaker 1: interception in the third made the turnover difference five nothing.
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  Speaker 1: That's obviously the most significant stat in the Vikings forty
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  Speaker 1: eight to ten win. It ended Cincinnati's seven game winning
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  Speaker 1: streak going back to last year, and the Bengals will
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  Speaker 1: need to put it behind them quickly before playing a
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  Speaker 1: Monday night road game in Denver next week. Here's more
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  Speaker 1: from Jake Browning.
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  Speaker 3: We got work today and you got to sit in it,
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  Speaker 3: and you gotta go through those emotions of like just
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  Speaker 3: being miserable, and then you got to watch the tape
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  Speaker 3: and and find your key things that you need to
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  Speaker 3: focus on for me to do my part and making
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  Speaker 3: sure that we move the ball better on offense and
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  Speaker 3: don't turn the ball over and get some points up
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  Speaker 3: on the board and so so uh yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of the same process whether you whether you
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  Speaker 3: win or lose, but obviously it's just much more painful
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  Speaker 3: when you lose, especially the way we did. You gotta
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  Speaker 3: be able to bounce back. I mean, very fortunate it
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  Speaker 3: only counts as one loss, and uh, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: think for me, it's just a big emphasis on you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of things that happen on offense that
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  Speaker 3: that didn't go well, and for me, it's really focusing
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  Speaker 3: on what my role was in that and what I
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  Speaker 3: need to do to get better and collectively as a group,
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  Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta respond, and so uh yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: think that's that's the hardest part, is just going out
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  Speaker 3: and not playing well and dealing with all the emotions
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  Speaker 3: after that, and uh and bouncing back. Nobody's happy about
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  Speaker 3: what just happened, and obviously and so you know, finding
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  Speaker 3: the balance of like knowing sitting in that feeling, knowing
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  Speaker 3: how that feels, going through watching the film and addressing
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  Speaker 3: the issues, but not letting this emotion of how you
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  Speaker 3: feel after a game like that, you know, turn into people,
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  Speaker 3: you know whatever, turn it into a bad locker room.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that's the case at all. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we got work today, but we had a lot of turnovers,
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  Speaker 3: and that's kind of what happens. And so trying to
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  Speaker 3: separate what you put on film from the emotion of
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  Speaker 3: how you're feeling after having a very poor game.
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  Speaker 1: Routing completed seventy percent of his passes and did throw
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown pass in the fourth quarter. Routing in the
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  Speaker 1: shotgun now back at the nine yard line. Sample in
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  Speaker 1: the backfield to his left. Routing drops back, looking bouncing
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  Speaker 1: in the pocket, floats a pass caught by Sample, great
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  Speaker 1: inside cut runs toward the goal line, touchdown, Bengals. We're
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  Speaker 1: in the locker room with Drew. Sample caught a touchdown
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  Speaker 1: pass for the Bengals today. One of the bright spots.
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  Speaker 1: And what was an unfortunate game. How difficult was it
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  Speaker 1: when they scored those defensive touchdowns in the first half
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  Speaker 1: to kind of get the ball rolling for the Vikings.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously, turnovers killed us. You know, that's across the league.
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  Speaker 4: That's the number one thing, you know, we can't do,
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  Speaker 4: and so that's on us to be to be better,
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  Speaker 4: and that was really the thing that kind of shifted
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  Speaker 4: the game in their favor.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we had some a few.
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  Speaker 4: Explosives, a couple of drives that were starting to get going,
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  Speaker 4: and I think we had a couple and then we
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  Speaker 4: had the turnovers on all those, so that kind of
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  Speaker 4: killed the momentum. And you know, Di did a good
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  Speaker 4: job of capitalizing those on the you know, scoring and
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  Speaker 4: then their offense did a good job, you know, not
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  Speaker 4: giving up takeaways. So yeah, I mean that was obviously
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  Speaker 4: a big part of the game, and you know, we
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  Speaker 4: just weren't good enough.
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  Speaker 1: Really in any face, felt like that second defensive touchdown
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  Speaker 1: was really the one that kind of made it difficult
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  Speaker 1: because you just scored, you had the ball near midfield
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  Speaker 1: two minute warning. It felt like maybe if you score
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  Speaker 1: and you get the ball to begin the third quarter,
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  Speaker 1: you're still in the game, and that one was really
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  Speaker 1: difficult overcome.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think I think they all might
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  Speaker 4: have been on the other side of the fifty and
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  Speaker 4: like plus territory. So you know that was just not
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  Speaker 4: only giving them points, but taking away, like you said,
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  Speaker 4: points that we could have you know, slowly crawled away
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  Speaker 4: back in the game. And you know, obviously at the half,
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  Speaker 4: we knew we had to come out and just try
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  Speaker 4: to flush that and you know, go in the second
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  Speaker 4: half and then you know, we were really just not
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  Speaker 4: able to get anything going.
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  Speaker 2: So it was it was tough. Hats off to them,
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  Speaker 2: but we definitely need to be better.
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  Speaker 1: I know, you guys had a lot of confidence in
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  Speaker 1: Jake Browning coming into the game. He earned that with
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  Speaker 1: what he did two years ago. How do you feel
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  Speaker 1: about the likelihood that he pushes this behind him and
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  Speaker 1: moves on and plays well going forward.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think we all have to do that.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, that's that hurts, that's I mean, you never want
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  Speaker 4: to lose like that. It's and it's embarrassing. You never
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  Speaker 4: want to put that on tape, But it happened, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, I got on it. We got to own it,
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  Speaker 4: you know, as a group, as a team, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: we have an extra day this week. Going into Monday
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  Speaker 4: night in the prime time. So you know, we got
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  Speaker 4: to learn from it and and move on really and
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  Speaker 4: try to figure out how we can do better not
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  Speaker 4: do that. And you know, I think we still have
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  Speaker 4: a really talented, full of team. We got great players
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  Speaker 4: on all sides of the ball. So we just gotta
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  Speaker 4: we just gotta learn from it, flush it when it's
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  Speaker 4: time to flush it and get back and you know,
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  Speaker 4: get really playing our style football.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, we gotta find that it's a noisy
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  Speaker 1: place and aggressive defense. Does that feed on itself once
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  Speaker 1: they start to build a lead.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I thought we did a pretty good job,
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  Speaker 4: you know, communicating different things in the noise, but obviously,
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  Speaker 4: you know, feeding on the turnovers, that's that's big for them.
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  Speaker 2: And you know their offense fed on that too.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously took a lot of pressure off them us giving
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  Speaker 4: up those points. So we made it hard on our
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  Speaker 4: defense for sure. But like I said, we just gotta
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  Speaker 4: we just gonna be better. I think no one's gonna
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  Speaker 4: shy away from that. We're a team and we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: bounce back from this. And that's all you can do.
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  Speaker 1: The biggest thing the Bengals have to get fixed. Is
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  Speaker 1: the running game. Cincinnati averaged about two and a half
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  Speaker 1: yards per carry and Chase Brown wound up with three
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  Speaker 1: yards on ten attempts. Chase talked about it with the
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  Speaker 1: reporters after the game.
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  Speaker 5: The main thing to take away from today is, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's not gonna get any worse than this, and we
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  Speaker 5: got to learn from it and move on.
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  Speaker 6: What is that say to you guys after the game?
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  Speaker 2: After the game?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much just that. I mean, you know, we
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  Speaker 5: gotta put this behind us. Five turnovers is you know
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  Speaker 5: that's gonna be the result every single time.
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  Speaker 2: You know, ball security was a.
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  Speaker 5: Big issue today, so I mean, you know, a lot
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  Speaker 5: of self inflicted wounds, you take those away. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: we probably still didn't play good enough to win the game,
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  Speaker 5: but you know it's it's not that big of a point.
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  Speaker 2: Spread for you personally, Chase.
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  Speaker 1: How frustrating has this first three games been for your production?
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  Speaker 2: Frustrating?
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  Speaker 5: You know for me, wins wins mean a lot, So
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  Speaker 5: I mean put production aside. Obviously, you know the big
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  Speaker 5: games will come and you know the production will come.
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  Speaker 5: But I think the main thing is is winning games
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  Speaker 5: and when you lose it it it it's it.
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  Speaker 2: It it's different.
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  Speaker 5: So I mean, obviously we gotta look at ourselves in
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  Speaker 5: the mirror and figure out where we gotta get.
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  Speaker 2: Better and move on.
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  Speaker 6: Because of the point differential, there will be a lot
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  Speaker 6: of people that will look at this game and the
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  Speaker 6: fact that it was the first game without Joe question
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  Speaker 6: if you guys are going to be able to be
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  Speaker 6: the offense that you want to be, what would you.
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  Speaker 4: Say to that?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fine. I mean, you know, let people, you know,
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  Speaker 5: have their own opinion about us, and you know what
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  Speaker 5: we're capable of. But as long as we stay tight
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  Speaker 5: and you know, focus on getting better and you know,
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  Speaker 5: get out of our feels and put this behind us,
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  Speaker 5: we'll be just fine. I think we gotta take the
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  Speaker 5: big main thing that you know, we gotta take away
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  Speaker 5: as a team is, you know, we got to play
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  Speaker 5: with the chip on our shoulder, like whatever people say.
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  Speaker 5: You know, as long as we're good in this locker room,
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  Speaker 5: we'll be We'll be just fine.
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  Speaker 7: Where is the better run game to start with, Jason?
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  Speaker 2: Where does that start? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: And I think in the main thing that reflects a
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  Speaker 5: good run game is physicality, just movement, breaking tackles, getting
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  Speaker 5: up to the second level, making big plays. So I
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  Speaker 5: think you know that'll come, and it'll come.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let's hear from head coach Zach Taylor, who spent
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  Speaker 1: a couple of minutes with Dave Lapham after the game.
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  Speaker 8: Forty eight to ten is a tough pill to swallow.
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  Speaker 8: What's your first thought? Turnovers?
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  Speaker 9: You know, you lose the turno bet on the first
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  Speaker 9: half four to nothing, two of them for touchdowns on
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  Speaker 9: the road. In this environment, that's gonna be tough to
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  Speaker 9: be able to overcome that. Added a fifth one in
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  Speaker 9: the second half, put another ball on the ground, didn't
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  Speaker 9: get any on defense, and so it's a very simple
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  Speaker 9: recipe for success or a lack of When you go
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  Speaker 9: on the road and you turn the ball over five
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  Speaker 9: times and you get none of them, typically the score
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  Speaker 9: might it's gonna be pretty ugly.
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  Speaker 8: And that's what it was today and road. There are
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  Speaker 8: places to visit on the road, and then there are
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  Speaker 8: other places to visit the road. In terms of crowd noise,
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  Speaker 8: this is one of the loudest. I mean that they
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  Speaker 8: can really get after it, they can get going. The
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  Speaker 8: momentum can affect how they react to what's going on
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  Speaker 8: in the football game. How difficult was that crowd noise
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  Speaker 8: to deal with.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, we gave him point to sure about and
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  Speaker 9: so the crowd didn't cause turnovers. The crowd didn't do
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  Speaker 9: any of that. We just didn't perform well enough to
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  Speaker 9: be able to win the game. And that's ultimately at
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  Speaker 9: the end of the game, it was all phases. We
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  Speaker 9: didn't do enough to make a play at the right time.
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  Speaker 9: On defense, I thought in the first half the defense
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  Speaker 9: gave us some positive things. We handed them fourteen points.
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  Speaker 9: That's not on the defense. So again, just collectively, we
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  Speaker 9: got to find a way when when a unit's down,
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  Speaker 9: for the other unit to somehow pick them up and
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  Speaker 9: create a big play. And today we just as a
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  Speaker 9: team failed in all phases.
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  Speaker 8: I think you make a great point the defense, really,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, you know, it's hard to say they played
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  Speaker 8: well when forty eight points were put up on the board,
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  Speaker 8: but they were in a tough situation field position. But
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  Speaker 8: all in all, I mean I thought that maybe the
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  Speaker 8: defense might have been the best of the three units today.
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  Speaker 9: There's no question. I mean, we put them in a
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  Speaker 9: terrible spot offensively in the first half, and I think
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  Speaker 9: our you know, our red zone defense at times this
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  Speaker 9: season has been has been impressive. We've got some takeaways
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  Speaker 9: and some turnovers and downs. Today the red zone defense
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  Speaker 9: wasn't good enough and so that led to some touchdowns
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  Speaker 9: when we did give them short fields. So we got
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  Speaker 9: to continue to improve there. But again it's it's this
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  Speaker 9: loss is collectively as a team, we're all going to
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  Speaker 9: own this.
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  Speaker 1: So three weeks into the season, the Bengals are two
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  Speaker 1: and one and tied for first in the AFC North.
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  Speaker 1: The Steelers are two and one after a twenty one
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  Speaker 1: to fourteen win at New England. The Ravens are one
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  Speaker 1: in one heading into a Monday night home game against Detroit,
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  Speaker 1: and the Browns got their first win, stunning the Packers
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  Speaker 1: thirteen to ten as Cleveland rookie Andre Schmidt hit a
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  Speaker 1: fifty five yard field goal to win the game as
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  Speaker 1: Now time for the radio guys recap.
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  Speaker 2: Lap.
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  Speaker 1: You don't make it to the NFL if you don't
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  Speaker 1: have a tremendous amount of pride, and the Bengals pride
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  Speaker 1: took a hit, a big time hit today. How do
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: they deal with it?
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  Speaker 2: Own up to it?
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  Speaker 8: You know, the whole story of the game, you know, beginning, middle,
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  Speaker 8: and end is five turnovers and you know some be
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  Speaker 8: in return for touchdowns. You just can't you can't survive
• 15:14
  Speaker 8: in the National Football League giving people that kind of
• 15:17
  Speaker 8: an advantage over you. The game was literally over at halftime,
• 15:22
  Speaker 8: in the first thirty minutes of the football game. It
• 15:24
  Speaker 8: was it was way out of control. The Bengals had
• 15:28
  Speaker 8: a monumental comeback ahead of them, they didn't have it
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  Speaker 8: in them to do it today.
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  Speaker 2: So again we.
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  Speaker 8: Boiled down to five turnovers. There were you know, mental
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  Speaker 8: errors on the turnovers. I'm sure there were physical errors
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  Speaker 8: in the turnovers, I know. So it's going to be
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  Speaker 8: interesting to see how they bounce back, how quickly they
• 15:47
  Speaker 8: bounced back, both as you know, players and coaches.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: You know, nationally, people are going to say, well, see
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is out. This team's in trouble. How do
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: the Bengals fight that and remain as confident in Jake
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: brown as they appeared to be prior to the game.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think that the thing you have
• 16:04
  Speaker 8: to do is get over that as quickly as you
• 16:07
  Speaker 8: possibly can. I mean, make it a make it a
• 16:10
  Speaker 8: memory of the past. You can't let let it, you know,
• 16:13
  Speaker 8: you can't let it just weigh on you. You can't harbor,
• 16:17
  Speaker 8: you know, the wishing that Joe Burrow was you was
• 16:20
  Speaker 8: your starting quarterback, because he's not anymore. And that's just
• 16:25
  Speaker 8: the nature of the beast. That's the reality of the situation.
• 16:27
  Speaker 8: A lot of times, reality sucks, and reality sucks a
• 16:30
  Speaker 8: big time right now for this football team. But Jake
• 16:33
  Speaker 8: Browning is going to have to do everything he possibly can,
• 16:36
  Speaker 8: both mentally and physically to get this team, you know,
• 16:39
  Speaker 8: out of the doldrums.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: The biggest mystery of the year through three games is
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: why the Bengals have not been able to get Chase
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: brown going. He was so good in the last eight
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: games that he played last year. The numbers today are staggering.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Ten carries a total of three yards. His long run
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: of the day was four. How do they get Chase
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: brown going in the running game?
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: Those numbers are almost impossible. I mean it literally is
• 17:03
  Speaker 8: almost impossible to think that on ten carries, Chase Browns
• 17:07
  Speaker 8: will only generate a third of a first down three yards,
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: I mean less than a third of a first down.
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: If I'm an offensive lineman, I'm embarrassed by that. I
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: won't I couldn't stand to look at it. If a
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: coach put it up on a board, I'd throw up.
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: And you just you just can't have that. I mean,
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: if if your running game is that bad, if you
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: if you you know you can't get anything done on
• 17:31
  Speaker 8: the ground and make a defense at least think that
• 17:35
  Speaker 8: you have a chance or shot to run the football.
• 17:37
  Speaker 8: You get no chance in a football game. I don't
• 17:39
  Speaker 8: care if it's junior high school, high school, college, or
• 17:42
  Speaker 8: the National Football League, you just can't have that. As
• 17:46
  Speaker 8: a former offensive lineman, that that to me is mind boggling.
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: I just can't wrap my mind around that one that
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: And you know, I'm sure Jake Browning feels the same way.
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: He can't wrap his mind around it either. I mean,
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: I bet when guys came trudging back to the huddle
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: after another, you know, less than sound effort. I'm sure
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: he was like, come on, what the hell is going
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: on here, Let's shake ourselves, let's get this going. We're
• 18:12
  Speaker 8: a much better football team than we're showing today. And
• 18:15
  Speaker 8: I think that was kind of the theme of the entire day.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Jake was nineteen for twenty seven. That's a pretty good
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: completion percentage, one hundred and forty yards, one touchdown, two
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: pick six, two interceptions rather including one pick six. How
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: do you think that he weathered the storm, so to speak,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: considering that there was quite a bit of pressure applied
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: by the Minnesota Vikings defense during the course of the game.
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that everybody has to take a look
• 18:40
  Speaker 8: at that. I think, you know, coaching staff, quarterbacks, running backs,
• 18:45
  Speaker 8: tight ends, wide receivers, offensive line, everybody has to take
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: a look at why the pressure was so extraordinary, why
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: it was so extreme, why the Bengals didn't have time
• 18:55
  Speaker 8: to operate. You know, I thought it was unfair to
• 18:59
  Speaker 8: Jake Browning. You know, hanging this loss on Jake grinning
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: is is a disservice. I think, you know, I've looking
• 19:07
  Speaker 8: at him in the locker room. I felt my heart
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: was aching for the guy. I felt badly for the guy.
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: As a foreign player. I know what's going through his mind,
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: and uh, you know it's not it's not pretty thoughts
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: right now. So you know, hopefully, uh, he's able to regroup,
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: shake himself, pull himself up out of the you know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: out of the doldrums, and and go compete next week.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: He played twelve years of pro football, four years of
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: major college football at Syracuse. There were probably games like this,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: if not quite this bad, what was the next week?
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Tough?
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: You know, it's uh, you're you're you're taking a look
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: at everything about yourself from the inside out. What are
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: you made of? How important is the game? And uh,
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: I mean it's it's it's painful and it's difficult to
• 19:54
  Speaker 8: lay an egg like that, but you did it. So
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: now what do you do? Well? Do you quit? No,
• 20:00
  Speaker 8: you can't quit. You don't do that. Everybody's looking, everybody's watching.
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: What's the next thing you're gonna do? How you're gonna
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: rectify the situation? You know, you're gonna listen to your coaches,
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: You're gonna listen to your teammates, and everybody's gonna have
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: some input as to how it can be better on
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: a snap by snap basis, because that's what it's gonna take.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: Nobody in the NFL is gonna feel sorry for you.
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: Nobody's gonna play any uh, you know, any easier against
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: you and make your job less, uh less of a challenge.
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: They're coming after you.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: They had some lopsided losses with Joe at quarterback. It happens.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Do you think it affects a team's confidence more when
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the backup quarterback is in.
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: That's an interesting question, you know. I think as a
• 20:42
  Speaker 8: form alignment, I would feel worse that. You know, we
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: just could not figure out a way to hit it
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: done and to put together drives and and and make plays. Yeah,
• 20:55
  Speaker 8: I mean we had games like that, you know. I
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: mean Bob Trumpy, Kennyan and Bob Johnson when I was
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: younger player games like that, and those guys taught me to, okay,
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: just let it roll off your back like water off
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: off the duck's back. You know, it's there's nothing more
• 21:10
  Speaker 8: you can do about it. You know, if you uh,
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: if you harbor, if you go home and think about
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: it every night, you're you're you know, retarding the the
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: opportunity you might have to bounce back against the next opponent.
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: So you know, just go home at night and get
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: some get some rest at night. It's because I'm telling you,
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: after a game like this, got zero sleep. I didn't
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: sleep a wink man. I mean it was you know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: every time I close my eyes would be nightmares about
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: the football game. So but you know, you got to
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: get your proper rest, You got to get your proper diet.
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: Uh train right and uh let the trainers and equipment
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: guys and everybody help you and get back on course.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: So it's on to Denver next Monday night. The Broncos
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: are one and two after losing by a field goal
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: to the LA Chargers. Now time for this week's fun
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: fact segment. On Monday September first, six days before the
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: season opener in Cleveland, the Bengals signed thirty four year
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: old eleven year VET Mike Panell, a three hundred and
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: thirty two pound run stopping defensive tackle. Here's defensive coordinator
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Al Golden. Shortly after Panell signed with Cincinnati.
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: His stature, his reputation, the fact that he wanted to
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: be here, those are important. Those are important to us,
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: and he brings a physical presence, and obviously he can
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: still do it at his age, which is great. So
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: I'm excited to see where he's at today and then
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: go from there.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: So you like about a statue?
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: What do I like about it?
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Have you seen him?
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Once you see him, you understand why Panell has had
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: such a long NFL career. He is physically imposing and
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: hard to move. Now let's meet the person under the pads.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Time for some fun facts with defensive linemen and two
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: time Super Bowl champion Mike Panell. Mikey won those rings
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: with Kansas City in the twenty nineteen and twenty twenty
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: three seasons. Describe what it's like when the confetti is
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: falling and you've just won a super Bowl.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Oh man, it's a dream comes true.
• 23:15
  Speaker 10: I was fortunate enough to have my son there and
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: we able to have that ever lasting memory of playing
• 23:19
  Speaker 10: in the confetti together.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Now that is awesome. How old was he the first
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: time you won?
• 23:25
  Speaker 10: The first time we won, he was about four, But
• 23:27
  Speaker 10: we were in confetti the last time he was six,
• 23:30
  Speaker 10: So that was good.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: What a great thrill that must be for him. On
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: what occasions do you wear either or both super Bowl rings?
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: It has to be a very special occasion, usually a
• 23:41
  Speaker 10: ceremony or two, but usually these momentos that the family
• 23:44
  Speaker 10: went to see. So I bring a good little barbecue
• 23:46
  Speaker 10: conversation piece.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Certainly better than anything I have in my jewelry collection.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: We're visiting with Mike Panell. You've lived remarkable life, and
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I want to start. When you were two years old,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: were diagnosed with kidney cancer. You had chemo for eighteen
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: months before your fifth birthday. Do you remember that at
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: all and how did it affect you in the years
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: that followed.
• 24:13
  Speaker 10: Fortunately, I mean, you know, under those circumstances, I didn't
• 24:16
  Speaker 10: have so much of a memory of it, just from
• 24:17
  Speaker 10: what my family told me. But you know, making it
• 24:20
  Speaker 10: through that, and you know I didn't really shape or
• 24:23
  Speaker 10: feel any differently, And you know my childhood, my family
• 24:25
  Speaker 10: was really supportive. So it was just a blessing. You know,
• 24:29
  Speaker 10: try to live every day, you know, appreciative of the
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: gift that was given to me.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: About ten years later, you got the news that the
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: chances of it coming back were slim to none. But
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: you were still a young kid at that point. Was
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the fear behind you when you got that news?
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: I mean absolutely, I think My mother did a great
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: job of displaying strength and confidence through that situation to
• 24:50
  Speaker 10: where I wasn't even thinking about it. So when we,
• 24:52
  Speaker 10: you know, thankfully got the news, I was in remission
• 24:55
  Speaker 10: and you know there was very very slim chance of
• 24:57
  Speaker 10: it coming back.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: More relief from my mom.
• 24:59
  Speaker 10: You know, she kind of kept me in the bubble
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: where she always you know, had me just living life,
• 25:03
  Speaker 10: not thinking about it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Speaking of your mom, going to ask you about one
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: other traumatic incident, and then we'll move on to football.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: You grew up in Aurora, Colorado. It's obviously known for
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the shooting at the movie theater. You thought that your
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: mom was at a movie that night, is that correct?
• 25:21
  Speaker 10: Yes, she was actually supposed to attend that. I believe
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: it was a dark night when it released. But fortunately,
• 25:27
  Speaker 10: and thank god, she fell asleep. So that was a
• 25:29
  Speaker 10: big relief for our family, and you know, just thankful
• 25:33
  Speaker 10: that turned out the right way.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: All right, let's turn to football. You started your college
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: football career at Scottsdale Community College. After starring there, you
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: went to Arizona State. Unfortunately it wasn't a good fit.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Did you feel like your chances of doing what you're
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: doing now were slipping away.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: No, not necessarily. My mother. You know, my family, we
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: always had a strong foundation.
• 25:56
  Speaker 10: I've always had a supreme confidence and you know, my
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: ability to play football through the circumstances. You know, I
• 26:03
  Speaker 10: always knew what I had to do to get there.
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: And you know, focus was more one of the bigger
• 26:07
  Speaker 10: things I need to get in on and maturing a
• 26:09
  Speaker 10: little bit. So through all that adversity, I still had
• 26:13
  Speaker 10: my you know, eyes and vision on the goal of
• 26:15
  Speaker 10: the NFL.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: We're chatting with Mike Panell. You finished your college football
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: career at Colorado State Pueblo. It's a Division two school
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: playing for the thunder Wolves. It's quite a ways from
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the bright lights of the NFL. What was that year like?
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: It was actually awesome.
• 26:31
  Speaker 10: You know, thank God for John Ristin that whole coaching
• 26:34
  Speaker 10: staff that really guided me through the process, play some
• 26:37
  Speaker 10: good ball. There was still getting you know, recruited, end
• 26:39
  Speaker 10: up getting invited to the Combine.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: So it was good for me, very humbling and I
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: feel like what I needed at that time.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: The coach you just mentioned, the head coach there, said
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: he knew you were different when he saw you do
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: a backflip. Now you are six now When was the
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: last time you did a backflip?
• 26:58
  Speaker 10: Probably in the off season. I do it a couple
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: of times just to test my still athletic ability.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: So yeah, last offseason.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Now that is impressive. We would like to see video
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: of that, but I'm gonna take your word for it.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: You're in your twelfth NFL season, you are playing for
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: your sixth NFL team. You've had a lot of teammates
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: over the course of the last decade. Who are some
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: of your closest friends on other NFL rosters?
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 27:22
  Speaker 10: Man, that list is, you know, pretty long. But you know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: I had a great group of veteran guys. You know,
• 27:26
  Speaker 10: Clay Matthews, you know, Leonard Williams are very close. Chris
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: Jones is one of my best friends, and you know
• 27:31
  Speaker 10: we talked football all the time. George Karloff Kiss, I mean,
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: to Mario Davis, Tymon Matthew. The list goes on, man,
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: Michael Bennett. I mean, just those were guys that are
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: really instrumental in, you know, just the process of maturity
• 27:44
  Speaker 10: and becoming a veteran.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Do you look at it as a plus that you
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: have been with a few different teams and therefore just
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: have gotten to know so many great players.
• 27:52
  Speaker 10: Absolutely, and I think you know, in any circumstance, you
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: know that many teams have called you and use your
• 27:58
  Speaker 10: abilities on.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: The football field.
• 27:59
  Speaker 10: You have to take that a little bit, a little
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: pride in that that you're able to fit in multiple systems,
• 28:03
  Speaker 10: that you're able to play multiple schemes with different coaches.
• 28:06
  Speaker 10: So for me, I take pride in it.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: So I read an interview where you said, I want
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: to be part of something where I am more needed
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: than wanted. Did you feel needed when the Bengals reached
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: out to you?
• 28:21
  Speaker 10: You know, the unfortunate circumstances while I left Kansas City
• 28:25
  Speaker 10: and coming here and speaking with the coaching staff, you know,
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: the assistant coast, a GM, everybody being on the same page.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: It was very welcome in and I knew that that's
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: where I needed to be.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: You've earned the reputation of being a great run stopper.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: That's a gritty job. What makes a great NFL run stopper?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I think this technique mentality.
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: Man, you gotta become a student of the game, and
• 28:47
  Speaker 10: it's just want to at the end of the day.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: And I take great pride in that.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: All Right, A few wild card topics. Now for Mike Panell,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: who is your all time favorite athlete in any sport?
• 28:58
  Speaker 10: Ooh, all time favorite a fleet in any sport. I
• 29:01
  Speaker 10: have to give it to Mike Tyson. Why Iron, Mike?
• 29:04
  Speaker 10: He was just iconic, man, you know the way he
• 29:06
  Speaker 10: came in, you know, being the youngest heavyweight world champion ever.
• 29:09
  Speaker 10: He was just very you know, iconic as someone to
• 29:11
  Speaker 10: look up to in the nineties, what he did with
• 29:13
  Speaker 10: sports and business.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: When you spend twelve years playing in the NFL, you
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: do well financially. What do you like to splur John?
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 29:21
  Speaker 10: Well, now you know my kids is what my kids
• 29:23
  Speaker 10: likes to splurgs on. But you know, for me, it's
• 29:25
  Speaker 10: traveling usually. You know, I go to Tokyo every off season.
• 29:29
  Speaker 10: I've been to Iceland and all of the islands, Greece, Australia.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: So really just traveling eating good food.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Tokyo every off season. Why Tokyo.
• 29:39
  Speaker 10: Oh, I love the food, love the culture. So you know,
• 29:41
  Speaker 10: I try to spend at least ten to twelve days
• 29:43
  Speaker 10: out there every off season, usually cherry blossom season, and
• 29:46
  Speaker 10: enjoyce food.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: How did you choose it the first time?
• 29:50
  Speaker 10: It's just always somewhere I wanted to go, and you know,
• 29:53
  Speaker 10: after the season was over, COVID hit then I couldn't go.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Then I say, as soon as it opens up on
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: my ghost.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Do you have any talents than playing football.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I'm an amazing chef.
• 30:03
  Speaker 10: I can cook, you know, I can plate, So I'll
• 30:06
  Speaker 10: definitely put my head on that for sure.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad that you didn't say I'm a good cook.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: You said I'm an amazing chef.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: That's next level amazing chef. You know I can do
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: it all. Yeah.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: So if you're trying to impress somebody, what's your go
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: to dish?
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I'm I try and puss my lady friend. Or this
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: is just a family type thing.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Let's go lady friend a lady friend.
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: We're probably going to do a dry age steak, and
• 30:27
  Speaker 10: we're going to do a black truffle lobster risotto with
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: a little bit of broccolini on the side, and then
• 30:33
  Speaker 10: we're gonna make sure we do a dessert. I'll probably
• 30:35
  Speaker 10: do a pumpkin turnover with vanilla being ice cream and
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: candy pecans with carmar drizzle. If I'm trying to press her, Yeah, all.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Right, now you are being interviewed by the right person
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: because I am a foodie and that sounds amazing. What
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: is your favorite memory in twelve years in the NFL.
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: He'll do the first time I went the Super Bowl.
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: That was awesome. You know, my mom being there. You know,
• 30:59
  Speaker 10: a lot of hard work into that and just reach
• 31:01
  Speaker 10: a pinnacle in that moment. So one of the first ones.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Final question, This one's a little bit deep. If you
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: could meet anybody in history, living or deceased, who would
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: that person be?
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Nikolai Tesla M.
• 31:16
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'd definitely want to meet him and see, you
• 31:19
  Speaker 10: know what type of person he is.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: You into inventors, absolutely, but I just there's a lot
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: of mystery behind him. That's someone I would definitely like
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: to meet.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: All Right, this has been very interesting. Appreciate your time.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Best I've left the rest of the year.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: All right, thank you, boss.
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