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LNC Commands Shakespeare to Improvise · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large nor John Collier Podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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  Speaker 1: about them. I'm Aeriel Caston and with me, as always
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  Speaker 1: is the delightful, wonderful John.
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  Speaker 2: Ofv Instrument boom ah. Yeah. Whether that was condemnation or
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  Speaker 2: I'm a scary ghost is up for you to decide.
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  Speaker 1: Six. I mean I would respond the same way either way.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, like, our delicate egos are such that
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  Speaker 2: if the people we love were to boo us, it
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  Speaker 2: would have devastating effects.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I'm working on that, but uh I am not.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, welcome back, y'all. We are excited to
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  Speaker 2: do another episode. Since our last episode, there was a
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  Speaker 2: massive comic book convention, New York Comic Con, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk a little bit about that today. Some of the
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  Speaker 2: trailers that we'll talk about came out of New York
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  Speaker 2: Comic Con. But unlike San Diego Comic Con, New York
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  Speaker 2: Comic Con is more focused on comic books, I think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, although some of the comic book
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  Speaker 1: news was pretty weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I only jotted down a few like highlights that
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to bring out, because if you really want
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  Speaker 2: to learn about what was talked about at the convention,
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  Speaker 2: you should definitely go online and pull up some news
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  Speaker 2: stories because they covered a lot. I mean, there was
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  Speaker 2: a ton of like discussions and panels and things, way
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  Speaker 2: too much for us to get into. But that's that's
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  Speaker 2: putting the cart way before the horse. We usually like
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  Speaker 2: to start our episodes off these days with a question.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I've got a question, and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to be fully transparent. I wrote this question down and
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  Speaker 1: then forgot to think about it, so you get to
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  Speaker 1: answer first. Obviously I'm asking it, but I will try
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  Speaker 1: to come up with an answer afterwards. What is the
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  Speaker 1: most overrated fall activity and or the most underrated fall activity?
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  Speaker 2: Well, clearly, the most overrated fall activity, which nobody likes,
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  Speaker 2: is apple picking. Everyone hates apple I am kidding. I
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  Speaker 2: said that specifically the lined up.
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  Speaker 1: Aerial because I just went apple bicking.
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  Speaker 2: I had a feeling like that's like that might be
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  Speaker 2: her favorite fall activity, so I just had to No.
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  Speaker 2: I think for me, the most overrated fall activity would
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  Speaker 2: be hay rides. I just don't get them. Most of
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  Speaker 2: the time you're in a wagon filled with hay bails
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  Speaker 2: just going through a farm somewhere, and it's not even
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  Speaker 2: necessarily picturesque, like you're just being dragged behind a track.
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  Speaker 2: And listen, if I want to be dragged behind a tractor,
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  Speaker 2: I just go back up to where my grandparents had
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  Speaker 2: a house. I could like just throw a rock in
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  Speaker 2: any given direction and find a tractor to be dragged behind.
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  Speaker 2: So that, to me is an overrated activity, underrated, although
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  Speaker 2: I argue this is probably not underrated, but it's one
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  Speaker 2: that I really enjoy. Corn mazes not as frequently found
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  Speaker 2: down here in Georgia as in other parts of the country,
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  Speaker 2: but we do have a few, and I've only ever
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  Speaker 2: been to one, but I had a really good time
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  Speaker 2: going through it. Like I was there with my partner
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  Speaker 2: Becca and friend of the show shay Lee, and this
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  Speaker 2: was years ago, and we had a good time getting
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  Speaker 2: lost and eventually finding our way out of a corn maze,
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  Speaker 2: and then we followed that up with a very disappointing
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  Speaker 2: ride on a hay ride.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I've been to like one or two
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  Speaker 1: corn mazes. Do you like the spooky ones or do
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  Speaker 1: you like the ones that are just a lovely maze
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  Speaker 1: that you walk through.
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  Speaker 2: This was, as I recall. Now keep in mind that,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, it was years ago, but as I recall,
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  Speaker 2: this one was largely just a maze. I think they
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  Speaker 2: might have had a couple of like Halloween tableau set up,
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  Speaker 2: but it was more in the playful, family friendly approach
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to the grizzly and gory approach. And I
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  Speaker 2: like that. I just like, you know, the fun of
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  Speaker 2: the novelty of walking through a corn maze or as
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  Speaker 2: you know, Native Americans might call it a maze maze.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, yeah, I did walk through When I went
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  Speaker 1: apple picking, I did walk through an apple tree maze.
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  Speaker 2: Seems like that would be less thick.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, I mean, these were these apple trees
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  Speaker 1: are kind of low to the ground because people pick them,
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  Speaker 1: so it was it was okay. I mean, it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a very difficult maze. You could see out through it,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, it was still delightful. Uh. I Yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: love apple picking, and part of that is because I
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  Speaker 1: love baking, right, so to get some fresh apples and
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  Speaker 1: then put them into your food. I don't do everything
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  Speaker 1: from scratch, like I don't mill my own flour or
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  Speaker 1: anything like that. I do know people who do, uh,
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  Speaker 1: but you know it. It makes me feel a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more legit if I pick out the apples. Like,
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  Speaker 1: if I pick the apples, it's fun. It's a nice
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  Speaker 1: day outdoors. And when I went apple picking, I got
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  Speaker 1: to pet the softest, most perfect, most beautiful little cow ever.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it was. It was light brown like it looked
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  Speaker 1: like the bord and cow like.
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  Speaker 2: That's cute.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, she was sweet.
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  Speaker 2: What would you consider an overrated seasonal activity?
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  Speaker 1: I'm afraid to tell you because you're gonna be mad
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  Speaker 1: at me.
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  Speaker 2: Is it going to be corn maz.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's gonna be haunted houses.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not mad at you. I've never been through all
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  Speaker 2: haunted house ever. Really, yea, you've.
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  Speaker 1: Never give it to like Netherworld. Nether World is a
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  Speaker 1: big They usually have like two or three hanted houses
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  Speaker 1: at a time, where they did in Georgia when they
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  Speaker 1: were along the Highway. They've moved to Stone Mountain and
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  Speaker 1: have a permanent space, so I haven't been there since then.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. They are mostly known for having kind of like
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  Speaker 2: the high production values where they've got like film quality
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  Speaker 2: effects and costumes in makeup, at least for some of
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  Speaker 2: the parts of the haunted house. And I once did
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  Speaker 2: an episode of tech Stuff where we talked about the
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  Speaker 2: technology used in haunted house attractions like nether World, and
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  Speaker 2: that was kind of fun, but even then I didn't
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  Speaker 2: get to go, So I have never done a haunted house.
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  Speaker 2: Like the closest is the Haunted Mansion at disney World,
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  Speaker 2: which is obviously a totally different kind of thing. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I guess maybe the other closest is maybe the London Dungeon,
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  Speaker 2: which is a tourist trap in London on the south
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  Speaker 2: side of the Thames. There was a stretch where there
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  Speaker 2: were a couple of scare actors, but largely that was
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  Speaker 2: more of a like wax figure, let's represent the different
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  Speaker 2: horrible eras of London's brutal past kind of thing. So
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  Speaker 2: that's as close as I can get.
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  Speaker 1: And to be fair, like I have enjoyed some haunted houses,
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  Speaker 1: I just get scared very easily. But like, if they're fantastical,
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  Speaker 1: if they deal with like mythological creatures, it's a lot
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  Speaker 1: better to me.
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  Speaker 2: Than like psychopaths with chainsaws.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And part of the reason I think, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they're effective.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Part of the reason I think that haunted houses are
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  Speaker 1: overrated to me is because my first experience with them
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  Speaker 1: was going to ones where my friends worked and they
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  Speaker 1: would pick on me and it got extra scary. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure I've talked about that before. But then you know,
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  Speaker 1: you kind of you flip the script to be able
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  Speaker 1: to handle it, so you start trying to look for
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  Speaker 1: the scare actors and then me because I overthink things
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  Speaker 1: and like, oh, I want to perceive these actors before
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  Speaker 1: they perceive me, so I'm prepared. But also I don't
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  Speaker 1: want them to feel like they're doing a bad job,
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  Speaker 1: so I still want to like support their work because
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  Speaker 1: it's hard for a scare actor too. I know somebody
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  Speaker 1: who got punched in the face and had to have
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  Speaker 1: a tooth ree inserted into their head because some people
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  Speaker 1: have a fight instead of a flight reaction. So I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they can be fun. I certainly love that people love them,
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  Speaker 1: but for me, they're just they don't quite hit the spot.
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  Speaker 1: I will go for friends and with friends and have
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  Speaker 1: a good time, but it's not like my and like
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  Speaker 1: the ones that are like, We're so scary were the
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  Speaker 1: scariest ever. I'm like absolutely not. I don't find enjoyment
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  Speaker 1: in that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, again, like I've never done one, feel like I
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  Speaker 2: would have anxiety issues. And in my case, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it's the scaracters that really bother me. It's the
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  Speaker 2: not really being able to see very well. You know.
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  Speaker 2: You know this, Ariel, because I remember like there was
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  Speaker 2: a we were at some like Renaissance festival ish kind
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  Speaker 2: of gathering where maybe your band was playing, but it
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  Speaker 2: was like out in the woods somewhere. This was years
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  Speaker 2: and years ago, like like fifteen years ago or something,
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  Speaker 2: and I had to have you grab my hand to
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  Speaker 2: lead me because it was like it was through a
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  Speaker 2: little wooded area and I couldn't see because my my
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  Speaker 2: low light vision is so bad, and so Ariel was
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  Speaker 2: by seeing I bestie, like I could not make my
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  Speaker 2: way through that without you, And and so I feel
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  Speaker 2: like I would have a lot of anxiety because I
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  Speaker 2: simply couldn't see where I was going, and to know, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that someone's gonna jump out at me, and meanwhile I
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  Speaker 2: can't even see if I'm like heading toward a wall
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  Speaker 2: or something doesn't really appeal to me. And you also know,
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  Speaker 2: like I get really uncomfortable when I'm in an indoor
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  Speaker 2: space and there are lots of people around me, and
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  Speaker 2: I can't easily make my way to an exit if
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  Speaker 2: I need to, and I don't want to make a scene.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to be the person of, hey, I
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  Speaker 2: need to get out, like I don't want to do that,
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  Speaker 2: Like that's that's socially embarrassing too. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: I get very uncomfortable if I've got people around me
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  Speaker 2: in an indoor area and I cannot, at least in theory,
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  Speaker 2: make my way toward an exit. The same reason why
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  Speaker 2: I had issues with Dragon con over certain years, where
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  Speaker 2: I would find myself in the middle of a massive
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  Speaker 2: crowd that really wasn't moving anywhere, and I could not
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  Speaker 2: make my way to an exit. I would start to
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  Speaker 2: feel my anxiety levels rise to the point of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: getting close to panic. Never quite hit that far, but
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  Speaker 2: I like I was flirting with it. So those are
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  Speaker 2: the different reasons why I don't really think haunted houses
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  Speaker 2: are for me. I can appreciate the work that goes
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  Speaker 2: into making one, especially one where it's really thought out
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  Speaker 2: so that the scares escalate and build and are logical
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  Speaker 2: right and not just like a mishmash of different horror tropes.
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  Speaker 2: Like if it tells a story as you go through,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's really cool. I love immersive storytelling. I
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  Speaker 2: just don't think it's for me, simply because of my
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  Speaker 2: own physical and mental limitations.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That being said, I do get absolute delight out
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  Speaker 1: of watching videos on social media of little kids walking
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  Speaker 1: through scare attractions at things like not Sperry Farms or
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood's like Universal Studios Nights of Horror, because they treat
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  Speaker 1: the like the scare actors want the kids to have
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  Speaker 1: a good time. Right, So there's this really like oftentimes
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  Speaker 1: sweet kind of here's this kid being kind to this
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  Speaker 1: big horrible creature in this big horrible creature just being
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  Speaker 1: floored with the adorableness, and like that's just delightful and
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  Speaker 1: kind of like a good lesson for life of like
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  Speaker 1: don't judge a book by its.
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  Speaker 2: Cover, right, Yeah, I think that also hits on something
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  Speaker 2: else that is a barrier for me to enjoy hunted
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  Speaker 2: Houses is just the other people and how they react, because, like,
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  Speaker 2: as someone who has been an actor in immersive storytelling before,
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  Speaker 2: I want the actors to have a good experience too, right,
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  Speaker 2: And so that means that people who are going are
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  Speaker 2: reacting in a way that is fun, whether that is
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  Speaker 2: they are startled and they make that known or that
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  Speaker 2: they think it's you know, fun, But they're not making
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  Speaker 2: fun of the scare actors. It's the people who feel like,
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  Speaker 2: oh no, I'm too brave, and they're just being snarky
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  Speaker 2: about it. I'm like, why the hell are you coming here?
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  Speaker 2: Why are you spending your money to just come here
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  Speaker 2: and be a jerk face to people, Like, if you
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  Speaker 2: don't find it scary, why did you come? Yeah, couldn't
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  Speaker 2: you spend your money doing something else? Because, like I
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  Speaker 2: ultimately I want everyone to have a good time, and
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  Speaker 2: I hate being in public situations where I see someone
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  Speaker 2: kind of going out of their way to make sure
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  Speaker 2: someone else has a bad time, Like that's just the
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  Speaker 2: biggest bummer.
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  Speaker 1: I don't do that. Like I said, that's why it's
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  Speaker 1: hard for me when I go and I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: to not be scared. I'm going to try to see
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  Speaker 1: where everybody is before they see me and jump out.
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  Speaker 1: But then also like I don't want them to feel
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  Speaker 1: like so the amount of times that I've gone at
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  Speaker 1: and then awkwardly smiled and waved at this monster who's
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  Speaker 1: trying to scare me because I'm like, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what else to do. I saw you. I'm still this
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  Speaker 1: is still awkward, But I want you to I want
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  Speaker 1: to give back, right because you're spending this your n
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  Speaker 1: screaming at people, losing your voice in this dark space working.
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  Speaker 1: You know, not everybody in a haunted house works hard,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of people do. A lot of people
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  Speaker 1: do it because they really love it and it's so
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  Speaker 1: much fun for them, provided they don't get someone who
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  Speaker 1: fights and punches them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's the big, big version of the
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  Speaker 2: extreme version of what I was talking about about people
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  Speaker 2: having bad reactions. But yeah, well, so, yeah, I do
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  Speaker 2: not disagree with your choice of haunted houses being overrated.
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  Speaker 2: But that's also admittedly from a point of ignorance since
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  Speaker 2: I haven't experienced one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, so I that was actually a better
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  Speaker 1: conversation than I expected.
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  Speaker 2: Well, then let us move on to talk about the
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  Speaker 2: things what we have seen since last week's episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I finished Peacemaker. I really enjoyed the end
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  Speaker 1: of it. I felt like I can I can see
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  Speaker 1: because you were talking about it in the previous episode,
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  Speaker 1: how you thought, Like me, maybe some of the conclusions
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  Speaker 1: were a bit rushed or unearned, and I can see that.
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  Speaker 1: For me, I kind of felt like they built up
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  Speaker 1: to it throughout the season, so I was okay with
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  Speaker 1: how it ended. That's fair because most of the people
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  Speaker 1: who ended up in the end scenario had either experienced
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  Speaker 1: by the end, had either experienced trauma together or reconciliation
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  Speaker 1: together prior to that point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was mostly it was Peacemaker himself
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  Speaker 2: and his transformation from his lowest point to a reconciliation
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  Speaker 2: that I felt maybe moved a little quickly. I was
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  Speaker 2: just like, considering how low this character is, would that
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  Speaker 2: moment be enough to pull him back? And who am
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  Speaker 2: I to say no? Like, obviously, I'm not the person
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  Speaker 2: who created the character. I didn't write this or anything
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  Speaker 2: like that. It just I don't know. Maybe I was
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  Speaker 2: hoping for too much, and I honestly couldn't tell you
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  Speaker 2: what it would have taken to make it a believable moment,
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  Speaker 2: because just because of how deep down a hole Peacemaker
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  Speaker 2: was toward the end of season two.
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  Speaker 1: I can understand that. I do wonder if they abbreviated
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  Speaker 1: that because it, you know, for finale, it may not
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  Speaker 1: be that fun to watch. But also then why but
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: why put it in the finale? You know? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I narratively, I do think it makes sense. And again
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what I would have done differently, Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have an alternative I would suggest, So it's
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: not like I've got a better idea. I just get
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: real picky about character stuff. And honestly, like you could
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  Speaker 2: even argue, ultimately it's a comic book thing. It's okay
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  Speaker 2: for things to not be quite as grounded, and there's
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: a solid argument for that, Like everything in that show
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  Speaker 2: was pretty darn good. I thought, so, yeah, it's really
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  Speaker 2: picking at knits.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the very very end upset me. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a I don't I don't want to spoil it
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  Speaker 1: because I'm sure there are people who listen, who do
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  Speaker 1: watch and haven't finished it. I don't know. I didn't like.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just it made me sad.
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  Speaker 2: I liked the way they ended it until I saw
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  Speaker 2: there were no plans for a season.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, fair enough, Yes, that is exactly that it is, like,
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  Speaker 1: and I know you don't relate to this, johnthan it's
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  Speaker 1: like when they finished Far Escape in a way where
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: they thought they were gonna have another season, and then
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  Speaker 1: that next season got canceled and so it was like
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  Speaker 1: the worst most upsetting cliffhanger ever that just was there
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  Speaker 1: for four years until they or however long until they
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  Speaker 1: were able to make a movie to finish it out.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I want some They ended it in a
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  Speaker 1: way that you'd be like, surely there has to be
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  Speaker 1: another season, So I do hope we get some resolution
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  Speaker 1: in the field.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the way the series ends, uh sets up something
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  Speaker 2: that's supposed to be a major plot point in the
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  Speaker 2: DCU overall in the future. So again, without giving any
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  Speaker 2: more spoilers, I don't want to talk in more detail
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  Speaker 2: about that, but the implication and Gun has said like
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  Speaker 2: Peacemaker is a really important part of his vision of
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  Speaker 2: the DCU, which is so funny because talk about a
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: talk about a character who had no real impact in
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  Speaker 2: mainstream consciousness prior to the Suicide Squad and certainly you
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  Speaker 2: know and before like the Peacemaker series, and now for
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  Speaker 2: that to be a crucial character in the DCU, it's
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: pretty funny. But what else have you seen besides Peacemaker?
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I can't understand him being a crucial figure because it's
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: something that people can kind of relate to nowadays. But
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I also watch my group watch has moved to Venture Brothers,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: which has never been my favorite.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I like Venture Brothers, but I I dropped off, well,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: and that's all of us dropped off, which is why
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: we're like, oh, we should rewatch and pick it back up.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Some of it is a little crass for me, and
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: some of it doesn't hold up well. Some of it
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: is very funny, but it is interesting because one of
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: the people in my group watch has never seen it,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and so it's been interesting to watch them watch it.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I'm continuing to watch task Master. I've started series five,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: so only four more left to go. And then the
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: specials I started watching is it Cake Halloween, which I
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: don't know the first episode, at least the cakes were
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: a little easier to spot than normal. It's I don't
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: think it's the talent of any of the cake makers.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I just think it's the condensed time and and pressure
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: in which they're doing it. And then I saw improvised
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Shakespeare on Monday Night, which I am still recovering from
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: because it's been a busy busy week and I'm exhausted,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: but I left so hard I legit gave myself a headache?
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Did your So I also saw Improvise Shakespeare. I saw
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: it twice, and we didn't see the same shows at all. Right,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: so we collectively we've seen three separate Improvise Shakespeare shows.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: And of course the gimmick, as the name suggests, is
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: that this team of very talented improvisers creates on the
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: spot a new Shakespearean play based off a title suggestion
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: from the audience. And so the title suggestions we got.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: The two I got when I saw it were why
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: does this taste like chocolate? And then the second one
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: was Nike will why does it taste so good? Two
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: totally different people suggesting. Yes. I was upset when that happened,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: because I was like, could we have gotten some other
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: suggestion that didn't involve taste? But no, and it wasn't
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: from someone who was at the previous show. So yours, though,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: was a different one.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, we got just the word honeybee.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: So did your show? Would you? Do you feel like
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: it was built upon the basic structure of any existing
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Shakespearean play or was it more just in the style.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: My group came to the consensus that it was probably
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: based off of the historical structure, the historical play structure.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: So maybe Jonathan and I have talked about this a
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: little bit already, and he mentioned a line in winter.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: And that might be Nope, I mentioned the Winter's Tail.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: The Winter's Tail line, winter Disease, and even Shakespeare ariel,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: get your head in the game. I told you, guys,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I'm really tired. Yeah, a Winter's Tail, So yeah, kinda,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: there was. It started with murder, and then there was murder,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: and then there was a wedding. Yeah, it was very funny.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: So plays like The Winter's Tail have elements of both
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: tragedy and comedy in them. The Tempest is another one,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: but yeah, usually you end either with a wedding or
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: with everyone being murdered.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: The ones that are combined are rare because they were
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: late in Shakespeare's career.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: But it was also a war between England and France,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: and England where the bees and France were the butterflies,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: and then there were also moths and lightning bugs.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: So yeah, in ours, So why does this taste like chocolate?
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Was clearly built on the foundation of Romeo and Juliet
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: had a lot of Romeo and Juliet parallels, and then
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Niquill Why Does It Taste So Good? Was clearly influenced
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: and inspired by Midsummer Night's Dream complete with fairies, So
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: we saw two very different although I will say it
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: was Midsummer Night's Dream if it were a tragedy because
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: everybody died just about I did notice a couple of
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: things where I'm like, oh, this is interesting. I'm wondering
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: if this is a regular kind of beat that they
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: like to incorporate into the show, because both of the
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: shows I saw had it, which was that at some
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: point someone mentions an off stage character, someone who has
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: not yet been introduced, but gives this character a fearsome
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: reputation of some sort or another, and then ultimately that
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: character does show up and is usually an agent of chaos.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: So in our first show that character was Deborah, and
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: in the second show the character was the Duke of Bears.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think I don't recall us having that. We
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: definitely had an agent of chaos or two, but I
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: think they might have introduced themselves, gotcha.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just one of those things where I
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: was like, as soon as I heard someone offhandedly mention
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: a Duke of Bears and they're saying it as if
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: it's not a real thing, Like it's not as if
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: there's a Duke of Bears or anything. I turned to
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Becca and I said, I bet you anything, the Duke
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: of Bears is going to show up later and be
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: this play's version of Debra.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Now, did you have a chorus or a song in
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: either of your plays?
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, there were songs in both of them, and also
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: a prologue that one of the actors steps forward to
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: serve as the prologue for the play.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a prologue, we got a song. And
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I think I recalled from when I saw them on
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: drop Out, because this is the I believe it's the
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: touring troupe, which I believe is more LA, more of.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: The LA troops Chicago.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I believe is it Chicago, because like Bryant is LA.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I thought for sure, pretty sure at Chicago. I think
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: that they were out in LA to do things with
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: drop Out, but.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: They have an LA troop. I looked this up.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Ah, well, maybe it's a combination then, because I remember
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: them mentioning Chicago while we were there, so it may
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: have been that there are members of different groups that
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: were working together.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: But you know, so a bunch of my friends love
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Dropout and they love Ross Barrant because he does a
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff and he didn't play a bigger role.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: And maybe this is because I was just like, oh,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I like, I've seen this other person's other work. There
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: are a couple of times where I could tell like
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: he was getting ready to make an offer and then
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: somebody else stepped on it, and from like an improv viewer,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: from a person who's done improblem like no notice him.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: So, but that happens in one instance. I'll just give
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: this quick story just because it was funny. They had
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: the element of the love Spell from Midsummer Night's Dream
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: and it was cast upon a character that Ross was playing,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: and they set it up so that it's going to
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: be the Duke of Bears that he's going to see first. Thus,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: this character is going to fall in love with the
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Duke of Bears out in the woods. So one of
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: the other actors took on the physicality of a very
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: awkward bear and started walking toward him, and he sees him,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: but then another of the actors jumps down and murders
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: the first one and reveals himself to be the Duke
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: of Bears, and Ross is like, I see where you're going,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: and I appreciate what you've planned, but technically I saw
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: him first, and so for the rest of the scene
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: he's just lamenting and grieving over a dead bear.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: That's amazing, now, I mean, like that's improv right. Sometimes
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I've got a great idea and somebody
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: else also has a great idea at the same time.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I just I think I notice it more now that
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I've done improv.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but everybody is nominal, Like I would not be
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: able to tell you my favorite player in the group
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: we saw, because they were all freaking brilliant and hilarious.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you enjoy, you know, Shakespearean shows or
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: things that are in that vein, and you really enjoy
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: poking fun at them, if you get an opportunity to
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: see the Improvised Shakespeare Company, I think we can easily
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: say it's we both highly recommend it.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I hope they come back for another tour
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: otherwise I will go see them in Chicago.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: But yeah, something outside I cannot highly recommend. Oh no
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: is Marvel Zombies. Uh, it's not bad. It's not like
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: it's badly done, but it is incredibly upsetting and there
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: are lots of unanswered questions. So by the end of
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: it you're like, I don't there's so much I don't understand.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Part of the problem, though, is that it is an
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: extension of an episode of What If. And it's been
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: long enough since I've seen that what If episode that
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I couldn't remember what happened in it. So I was
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: a lot of the early parts of that series. I
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: was like, wait, how did that happen? Why is this
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: character like this? And so I need to go back
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: and watch that on If episode.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: But there's there's actually a couple of them.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah I I and I have seen them. I just
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: don't remember them. But I don't like it is rough, y'all.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: If you have particular attachments to certain characters in the
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Marvel universe, you might want to think carefully before you
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: watch Marvel Zombies.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I you know, I know you were looking forward to
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: it originally, or at least to seeing what they were
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: doing with it. I know my husband was as well.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Tony's read some of the Marvel Zombies' comments in the past,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: and they do some. He's told me some of the
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: upsetting stuff that happens in the comments, like when zombie
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Hulk eats people and then on hulks out. It's kind
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: of horrible. So, like, the premise is interesting because at
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: least in the I don't know if it's this way
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: in the in the show. So if this is a spoiler,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: feel free to cut it out. I guess you guys
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: will know if it's not in here, like they eat
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: people's brains and get smarter when they do.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not really a thing in this one. Okay, No,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: it has way more to do. I mean, this is
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: revealed very early on, so I don't feel too badly
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: about saying it. Plus, I think it's it's more it's
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: actually set up in the WAF episodes, but it's really
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: got more to do with the Scarlet Witch Wanda. It's
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: that that's really what this all hinges on. And also
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: in the series, it also hinges on Kamala Khan. And
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: one of the things I found unsatisfying about the series
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: is that, as far as I can tell, they never
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: really explain why Kamala khn that's important, like beyond just
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: her being, you know, a plucky hero they don't like.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I just don't get it. So I don't know if
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I missed something or if they just haven't revealed it yet.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: And maybe that'll come in another season, if they ever
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: make another one. I don't know. I found it more
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: disappointing overall than entertaining. I don't think it's bad. I
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: just personally did not vibe with it.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Gotcha, Well, that is we watched a lot of stuff
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: this week.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so now let's talk about a lot of stuff.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Let's zoom through these thirty seconds or less story, shall we?
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Su sure?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Okay? Nearly thirty years ago, a little company called TiVo
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: popularized the product known as the Digital Video Recorder, which
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: is a lot like a VCRX, uses zeros and ones
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: instead of cassette tapes. Now, Tvo has announced it is
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: no longer manufacturing hardware. It has sold out of the
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: remaining inventory, though it will continue to offer support for
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: existing products. The company will focus more on partnerships with
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: smart TV manufacturers moving forward.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Apple Plus, speaking of smart TVs, Apple makes them just
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: a bad segue. Apple Plus is getting a minor re brand.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: They're dropping the plus and just doing Apple TV. I
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: don't really see the point, but if it makes.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Them happy, great Sony is going back to Jumanji, specifically
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: the video game version of Jumanji. The new film will
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: reunite stars like Dwayne Johnson, Kevin Hart, Jack Black, and
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Karen Gillen, but also add Brittany O'Grady and Burne Gorman
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: to the film. We don't have any real details beyond
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: that at this point, other than the fact that The
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Journey into This Dangerous Video Game World will release on
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: December eleventh, twenty twenty six.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I am okay, I've liked the other Jimunji movies. Bridgid
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: in season four did their season announcement. It's just the
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: current Bridgerton child whose romance it is walking up some
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: steps while his potential love interest is walking down some steps. Honestly,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: it kind of turns his story thus far a little
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: bit milk toasty. But if you're excited about it. The
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: new season of Bridgerton will come out in two parts
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: January twenty ninth and February twenty six.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Recently, at New York Comic Con, actor Sigourney Weaver revealed
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: that she had read the first fifty pages or so
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: of a new Alien screenplay that would see her character
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Ripley return to the franchise. She says she is entertaining
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: the thought of coming back if Disney cares enough to
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: pursue the project, and has said that the news story
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: is quote very much about the society that would incarcerate
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: someone who has tried to help mankind end quote interesting.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: A few years back, there was talk about a Magic
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: eight Ball TV show. Well, it looks like it is happening.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: M Night. Shyamalan is directing, along with Brad Falchuk, who
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: worked on things like Glee and American Horror Story and
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Scream Queens.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: How do you make an old Alexander Dumas story new again? Well,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: how about some gender flipping. Audrey Flreau is going to
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: do that with the Countess of Monte Cristo, which reimagines
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: the classic tale of swashbuckling revenge by killing off the
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: original hero of Edmond Dante and tasking character Mercedes Herrera
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: with avenging his death. Oo La La.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Jim Carrey is in talks to play George Jetson in
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Or to take Yeah to take lead in the Jetson's
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: from Warner Brother Pictures. So I'm guessing that's George, it
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: could be another character. It's being directed by Colin Trevora,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: who worked on Jurassic World, Domination and Dominion Non Domination
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: different movies, and right now they're talking to Joe Epstein
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: to write the screenplay. Other credits Joe has done is
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: something called Space Opera and an untitled artificial Intelligence Courtroom something,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: so seems like he's all fit to write some sci fi.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Tim Burton's ed Wood is a great film, and one
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: of the many entertaining and tragic components in that film
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: is Bella Legosi at the end of his life. Now,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: the two screenwriters behind Edwood have a full Bella Legosi
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: biopic that would focus on his early career and his
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: rise to stardom. Atti end Way Productions has agreed to
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: develop the project. So here's hoping it goes all the
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: way and we see it further down the line.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: That would be very interesting. Jeremy Renner is lending his voice. Sorry,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I'm just reading this straight off the page to Star Dust,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Future Stars and Scars, which is an AI created film
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: by filmmaker Y Jao. They work together on documentary for
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Disney called Chronicles of Disney. The filmmaker says that using
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: AI is a way to help add tools to artistic
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: vision and not to replace people. But when you replace
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: all your animators with AI, I get.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: A little prickly. Yeah, and all your writers with AI too.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I am not happy about that story. But then again,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: no big surprise. Anyone listening to this, I think is
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: pretty aware of our stance on generative AI.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Well, yuh no, that's fine, Okay, I didn't want to
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: cut you off. Sorry, let's move on to stuff. What
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: is isn't really a fit for our show, but we
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: leave it in here any way.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Section Yeah, and the first is a trailer for a
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: film called Young Washington. I was about to say when
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: it comes out, but I don't want to steal your thunder, Jonathan. I.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: If you asked me, do you want to watch a
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: movie about Young Washington, I'd tell you no. But then
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: when I look at the cast involved in it, I'm like,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: that's quite the like talent in it.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got folks like Ben Kingsley, Andy Serkis, Mary
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Louise Parker, Kelsey Grammer, William Franklin Miller is playing young
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: George Washington and then Will Joseph plays even younger George Washington. Yeah,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: this is this looks like a like a revolution well
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: pre revolutionary war movie, because this is about his very
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: young career as a military officer, which would eventually lead
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: to him becoming a general in the Continental Army. And
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: the release date is fittingly enough, fourth of July twenty
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: twenty six.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, let's make it the biggest movie of
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: the month or week or whatever.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but it's okay, like they'll they'll they'll release
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: on fourth of July twenty twenty six, and then George
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Washington will teach them how to say goodbye. So it's
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: a Hamilton reference.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: It is, it is. See, my brain went to Marvel Zombies.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I was like, he's going to rise up from the
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: dead and attack.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: No, if he did, then Abraham Lincoln would have to
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: eventually take him out because he's you know, he's got
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: the the undead killer reputation with Abraham Lincoln vampire killer.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Oh so, I say he normally does vampires, but I'm
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: sure he could take out a zombie.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Or yeah, I mean, really zombie. What are zombies but
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: second rate vampires.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: With a bigger appetite. Okay, vampires are just zombies juice diets. No,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I please nobody get mad at me for that.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: We also got a trailer for the Artist, which might
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: belong in our regular stuff, but it's also got quite
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: the cast. It stars Mandy Patinkin, and it's a murder mystery.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, set in the Gilded Age, and it will incorporate
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: a few actual historical figures as part of the story.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: This reminds me of the I can't remember what the
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: title of it was, but remember we were talking about
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: the murder Mystery with all the different painters, the surrealist painters. Yes, yes,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: this reminds me a little bit of that. I'm like, oh,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering if we're just gonna go through like a
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: phase of these kinds of things. But yeah, like Hank
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Azaria is playing Thomas Edison, but other historical figures include
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: like Edgar Degas and Evelyn Nesbitt. Patty Lapone is in
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: this and at least in the trailer, she is at
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: her signare Caddy Patty looponessus, She's extremely Caddy in the trailer.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: So it looks interesting, it looks quirky, It also looks
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: like it probably has taken some inspiration from the Knives
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Out series in the sense of, you know that kind
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: of sense of humor where it's like a sharp tongued
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: sense of humor. The basic premise is a bunch of
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: people are at the estate of quote, an eccentric tycoon
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: who promptly dies end quote, and that would be the
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: inciting incident of the mystery. It's gonna come out in
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: two batches. The first three episodes well premiere on November
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: twenty seventh, and the second three will come out on Christmas,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: and those will stream on the service called The Network,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: which somehow I didn't know was a thing until we
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: did this.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I also did not know it's a thing. Is it?
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Is it available in the US?
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe? I'm sure it is. Like all the actors are American.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: It would be weird to maybe not all of them,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: but a lot of the actors are American. It would
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: be very weird to have this not be available in America.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: You know, I think the Network. Again, I don't subscribe
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: to the network because there are other more recognizable streaming
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: services out there that I haven't yet subscribed to. So
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: goodness knows, I haven't made my way down the list
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: to the network yet.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I might just for this. You also
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: put on a trailer for a show called Stumble, and
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, I'm not gonna like this,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: and then the trailer made me laugh so so hard.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: It's about competing like football, cheerleading, gymnastic teams. Correct.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so think of something like bring it On and
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: mix that with the office or parks in rec because
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: it's done in that mockumentary style and it's following a
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: disgraced cheerleader coach. She lost her previous job because she
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: was videotaped drinking with members of the team and making
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: inappropriate comments as well, and so she gets fired from
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: her cheerleader job just as she was about to break
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: the record for most championships coached. And then she ends
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: up taking the job of cheerleader coach at like a
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: community college in a nowhere town and is attempting to
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: replicate her success but with a very very different talent pool.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks very funny. There were some jokes that
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: made me very much laugh. I sent it to one
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: of my friends who has similar humor humor style, and
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm a little bit ashamed that this
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: looks so good to me and.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: It comes out. This one comes out on NBC and
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Peacock and it starts on November seventh.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe I can watch it when I briefly get NBC
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: for the Thanksgiving Day parade. Amadeus, Rock Me Amadeus. Yes,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: we're getting a new series on Sky, which is a
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: British network for Amadeus. It's got Paul Bettany and it's
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: got Will Sharp and it looks really really good. However,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I'll let you go more into it in a second,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: but I have to say this before I forget it.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: At the end, they give the tagline believe in original Stories.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: And we had an Amadeus movie that was very good
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: and looked rather similar.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, not only that. Okay, so the movie
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: wasn't just a movie. The movie was an adaptation of
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: a stage play. So originally you've got the stage based
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: off the life of the real world Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Then you've got the movie adaptation of that stage play
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: that had folks like Tom Holson and f Murray Abraham
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: in it and is brilliant. It's a fantastic movie. Came
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: out in nineteen eighty four. It's really really good. This
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: also looks good, but as you say, it looks like
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: it's incredibly faithful, to the point where there are our
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: moments where you're like, yes, these are clearly different actors
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: and they're giving a different interpretation of the characters, but
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: they're still so close to what has already come before
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: that that particular line at the end where it says
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: believe in original stories, You're just like, oh, for come on, yeah,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: don't bs me.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, I mean, like, is it has had some adaptations,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: it hasn't had the most adaptations of properties that we've seen,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: and I still very much want to watch it. I yeah,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: there is any way too.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: In the US it looks good. I mean, like I
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: would argue, like, I know, there's some people who are saying,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: why even bother to do this? We already have the
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: nineteen to eighty four movie, and I get that, like
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: that's there's some merit to that. But I also think
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: about how it's different because movies, obviously they exist in
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: a format that you can revisit, you know, you can
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: keep going back and watch the same thing. But I
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: think about the theatrical world. If we treated the theatrical
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: world the same way, if you didn't get a chance
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: to see a play when it was first mounted, you
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: would never get to see it right unless someone were
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: to remount it, possibly with the new interpretation and a
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: new cast and all that kind of thing. Clearly, it's
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: different because again with plays for the most part, with
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: a notable exception, will end the show with you don't
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: have you don't have it in a fixed format where
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: you can go back and see it. So I understand
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: that's not apple to apples here, but you know, I
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: still think there is merit in revisiting something. But if
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: you're not going to make a big departure, if you're
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: not going to make really bold choices that differentiate it
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: from what came before, I do see the argument about, well,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: why did you invest in doing this when we already
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: have a really good representation.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: You know, the only thing I would say is if
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: there were like and this doesn't always hold true, but
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you've got a good movie that is
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: a really good story, and you're like, I want to
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: share this with my children or my grandkids or whatever,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: because it's a really good story. It holds up, but
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: visually it does not. I can understand trying to take
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: a movie into the new century to introduce it to
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: a new audience. It doesn't always work like Tron.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Or like or like half of the Disney live action adaptations.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I could understand that being a reason.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: To try, right, I can understand it from a we
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: need to guarantee that we're gonna make bucket loads of money,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: and let's depend upon ip we've already developed, as opposed
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: to taking a risk with something new, especially when like,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: especially when like some of the new stuff hasn't performed
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: well for various reasons, Like we talked about Strange Worlds
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: and how that didn't perform well for Disney. I would
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: argue that was largely due to two things. One the
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: marketing campaign was almost non existent for that movie, and
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: two it wasn't very good. But but but like you know, yeah,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: there's lots of different factors that come into play. I
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: will say I would be willing to watch this even
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: with all my complaints, because I think Paul Bettany is
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: a phenomenal actor, and I'm sure his saliary is incredible.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, I wasn't a huge fan of a night's Tale,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: but his shaucer was a chef's kiss.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah all right, So next up in our it don't
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: fit here, but we're putting it in anyway. We've got
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: a trailer for a romantic comedy heist movie called jingle
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Bell Heist.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's a Netflix movie. It falls
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: somewhere in between Hot Frosty and Red One. I would
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: say I.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Did so. I only just this week saw the title
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: of Hot Frosty and I was too scared to look
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: and see. What the I can't curse on this show,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: but what the heck that is? And I kind of
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I almost don't want to know because I like living
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: in a world where Hot Frosty exists, and yet I
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: don't really know what it is.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I have watched it. I watched it last year.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Are they making a sequel or something, because I know
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I saw the title this week and I thought it
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: was on like a maybe it was an old package
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: for Netflix's holiday stuff. It might have been like last year's.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: It was just one of those things on YouTube that I.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Don't think based on the ending, they could make a sequel.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Proper got it, but it was just melt because he's
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: hot Frosty.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Is it like he didn't want to know anything about that.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: I'm just wondering when I knowing it's called hot Frosty.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: I'm like, is this movie like a sec Are you
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: watching him melt in real time and it just takes
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: ninety minutes for it to happen?
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: No? No, no, So the premise is, sorry, now you've
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: opened this door. The premise is Dustin Milligan, who played
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: the veterinarian Alexis's boyfriend in Shit's Creek Okay, plays Jack Snowman,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: who is a there's like a snowman competition or display
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: in the center of town, and he is a very
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: handsome look like he he looks like the statue of
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: David in snowman form, right, And so a woman sees
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: that and kind of puts a scarf around him. And yep.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: So now Frosty is a real life, attractive, fit guy
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: who doesn't know how to be a person because he
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: was a snowman.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just now born into the world, but.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: You know, has that innocence that really touches people's lives
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: and and like is something aspirational but also can't do
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: well in hot weather and does like get heat stroke
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: slash start to melt, not grotesquely, but.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Like which is a shame because it could have been
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: really the most amazing comedy slash body horror movie of
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: all time.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I mean it has a happy ending.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: It has a happy ending at the end, but it
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: it's it is funny. It's possibly more cheesy than a
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: normal Hallmark movie.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I will say, getting back to jingle Bell Heist,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: which this is really about, not about Hot Frosty.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Trugrio is in Hot Frosty too.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: So you've also got like Olivia Holton, Connor Swindle, Swindle's
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: playing the leads, and Peter Sarah Fenowitz, who whom I love.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: I think Peter Sarah Fenowitz is He's such a great actor,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: fun fun, very funny guy too. I think he's playing
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: the owner of a department store. So the basic premise
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: of this is that Olivia Holt's character and Connor Connor
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Swindle's character, they're independently targeting this bougie department store to
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: rob it because, particularly around the holidays, there's just a
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: lot of money in that store, and they end up
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: kind of falling in with each other and combine their
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: efforts to target this store, and so it ultimately becomes,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: like I said, a romantic comedy heist movie with a
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: holiday flare. Like, there's a lot of sub genre labels
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: you have to apply to this movie. I will say this,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: I am not a romantic comedy guy in general, but
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: this looks cute.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: It does look cute. There's enough like moments in it
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: that are very funny, and some of them are cheesy,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: but they're delivered so well that they do make you chuckle.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: It also has Lucy Punch, who I first learned about
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: in Tenth Kingdom, which was also all Hollmark.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Oh she was one of the shepherdesses, wasn't she.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I think she was little bo Peep.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think of her from Hot Fuzz because she
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: was the really bad actress in the Romeo and Juliette
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: stage play and Hot Fuzz.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: So I love her too. And yeah, like it just
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: looks it looks fun cute. You know. I know so
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: many people who they like Hallmark movies, but they love
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Hallmark Christmas movies. This is obviously Netflix, but I feel
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: like this will It looks like it's a little bit
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: like a step above. It might be even more entertaining.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: So yeah, there's there's a local Atlanta writer and playwright
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: who has written several of the Hallmark Christmas movies. And
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: if you ever get a chance, Ariel, if they ever
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: if they do it again, there's a improvised Hallmark movie
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: stage show called y'all Mark, where he and then a
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: couple of improvisers will try to create a Hallmark style
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Christmas film on stage, live before you. And mostly it's
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: an excuse for him to have to rain in the
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: actors every time they do something that is not approved
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: on Hallmark's extremely long list of things that are not
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: allowed in the Hallmark Christmas movies.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a fun writer. I like him a lot.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen y'all Mark.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: You gotta give it a try if they do it
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: again this year. But anyway, so Jingle Bell Heist will
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: be coming out as you said on Netflix on November
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: twenty sixth Woo fun.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: I wonder how many people at Thanksgiving I can get
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: to watch it.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: So now we now move into John Boy's horror Hutch. Okay,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: so first off, as usual, I have to ask Gariel,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: did you watch any of these trailers before I launch
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: into this take a guess I'm gonna say no, you
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: totally could watch the trailer for Send Help that one
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: almost did. Yeah, that one's more of a psychological thriller
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: and less of a horror movie. And it's also, I
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: would argue, like a dark comedy slash satire kind of thing.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: The basic premise is, Oh, by the way, it's directed
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: by Sam Raimi, the guy from the you know, Evil
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Dead and Spider Man, the Toby McGuire's Spider.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Man, two completely similar properties.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you watch the camera work in some
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: of the Spider Man stuff, you're like, oh, yeah, this
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: is clearly the same guy who did Evil Dead, but
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: and there's also a little bit of physical comedy and
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: those that kind of is like a through line through
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: his work. Dark Man's another good one that he did. Anyway,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: So this one stars Rachel McAdams and Dylan O'Brien, and
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: the basic premise is Dylan O'Brien plays this really jerk
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: of a company like executive, and Rachel McAdams is an
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: employee at this company, and he treats her like dirt.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: He's dismissive toward her, he's patronizing, belittling, he's just essentially
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: he says she's worthless, but she is also picked to
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: go on a company trip where she and a bunch
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: of other people, including Dylan O'Brien's character, are on the
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: company plane when there's a disaster aboard the plane and
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: the plane crashes, and she and he are, as far
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: as they can tell, the only survivors. They've washed up
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: on an island and they are outside of the ability
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: to contact the greater, larger world. He is injured, and
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: so he's still kind of acting like a jerkface boss,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: and she then points out like, hey, you're hurt. You
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: are dependent upon me. I'm the boss now. So it's
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: kind of a powers dynamic shift sort of film where
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: she suddenly becomes the empowered one and he's sort of
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: at her mercy, and you know, she starts to think, Hey,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: maybe I like the way things are here, and I'm
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: not too worried about us getting rescued because I'm the
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: one who's capable, right, She's the one who's doing all
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: the hunting and everything. So it kind of reminds me
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: of another film called Triangle of Sadness, which has a
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: similar power shift between kind of an upper class and
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: a servant class. But anyway, this movie comes out January thirtieth,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: so it looks interesting and as I said, Ariel, you
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: could totally watch this trailer. I don't think there's anything
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: in it that would iq out.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Okay. I do have a quick question because you compared
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: it to Triangle of Sadness, which I've seen the trailer
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: for but I never watched because there's too much vomit
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: in the trailer.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Well, that's it reminds me of that in the sense
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: that there's power, dynamic shift.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Do volume. Okay, just making sure. Yeah. I like Rachel
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: McAdams a lot, so maybe I'll check it out.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, next up is Primate. This is when I
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: specifically told Ariel she can't watch, which she wouldn't have
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: done anyway. But it's an animal attack horror movie, and
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: the basic premise is a group of young folks are
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: going to Hawaii for a vacation and the place they're
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: staying at I guess it's one of their friends maybe
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: who is living on Hawaii, so they're going to go
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: hang out with her. Well, she happens to have a chimpanzee.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing this was an animal that was rescued and
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: is learning like to use a tablet in order to communicate, like,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of like those videos of dogs that
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: have those buttons that they can press to communicate simple ideas,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: something similar to that. Anyway, something happens to the chimp
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: that makes them go totally cray cray, and then the
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: chimp begins to go on a murder slash maiming spree
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: with all the young people being you know, the victims,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: and it starts ripping up folks pretty darn bad. It
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: actually kind of reminds me of a very cheesy and
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: not good movie called Shakma from years ago, although that
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: was a I think it was a baboon in that one,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: not a chimpanzee. But anyway, this film stars no one
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: I've ever heard of before, so I'm not gonna bother
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: listing them. And it comes out January ninth. I do
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: not think I'll see this one. It does not check
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: any of my boxes. So the last one is the
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: one I'm actually really excited about because it's a remake
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: of a super cheesy holiday horror movie called Silent Night
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Deadly Night. This is a not good slasher film from
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four, it's a cult classic. So this is
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: a remake, and this is the way I think remakes
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: should be, where you take movies that are not very
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: good and then try to make something new out of them.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: But it's based off the idea of the main character
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: is a when he was a young boy, witnesses his
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: family being murdered on Christmas. As you can imagine, this
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: leaves a bit of a trauma on him. So as
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: a grown up, he's a psychopath who likes to dress
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: up as sad to clause and kill people that he
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: deems to be quote unquote naughty. So it's kind of
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: like it's kind of like he's he sees himself as
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: dealing out justice in the guise of being Santa Claus.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: So in this new version that, by the way, is
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: basically the same plause the original nineteen eighty four film,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: But in this new version he seems to meet up
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: with a young woman who, after an initial uncertain reaction,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: appears to come to appreciate his methodology and be like, ah,
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: this is not a bad idea. I can only hope
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: that at some point within this film he says garbage day,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: because that's actually a line from Silent Night Deadly Night two.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Technically it was the younger brother who says it in
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: that movie, but it's such a great line that I
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: would love for it to be in this one. So
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping that it's it shows up in there somewhere anyway. Yeah,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: because Silent Night Deadly Knight, too, by the way, is
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: a sequel where like fifty percent of the sequel is
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: just footage from the first film. There's hardly any new
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: stuff in it, except for the garbage Day thing. But
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: this remake comes out December twelfth, and I will see
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: this because it's schlocky and silly, and I think everyone's
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: aware of it, Like it's not like one of those
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: horror movies where they meant for it to be serious
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: but it ends up being silly. I think there's an
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: element of silly just purpose built into this film in
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: such a way where it doesn't feel like disingenuous or insincere.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: So I'm I will go see this. It'll probably be
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: really bloody, and I'm okay with it.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, I won't see that one, but I'm glad you're
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: excited about it. Let's move on to I know people
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: have been waiting since we mentioned at the beginning talking
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: about New York Comic Con.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's lots of stuff. Mostly again, there's mostly
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: comic book news, and then there were some trailers and
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: stuff that we'll talk about in a second. But some
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: of the things I put in were that apparently one
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: of the executives with d C Comics just came out
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: and was like, yeah, we just want to make it
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: clear that our policy is we do not accept AI
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: generated stories or art in our comic books. So that
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: got a big that's awesome, Yeah, big thumbs up from me.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Apparently there's going to be a Mortal Kombat slash DC
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: character crossover in comic books in February. Obviously there's been
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing in the video games, but now
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: it's going to be like a comic book story. Did
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: you read about the the series called Sirens Love Hurts.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's the Catwoman Harley Quinn and Black
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Canary Meat Sex in the City.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Poison Ivy as well, although I don't I
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: think she's left out of the headline, but it's in
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: the story. Yeah, Poison Ivy is also included. So yeah,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like a Sex and the City inspired series,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: and it's under their Black label, which is for readers
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: who are over the age of seventeen, so you know,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: spicy stuff I am imagining in there.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: But yeah, they're doing a couple of adults only things.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's also out of canon, so it's not
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: within the continuity of the Greater DC storyline, which gives
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: them a lot more freedom when they're telling their story,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: doesn't have to conform to anything else. The big news
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: I saw from Marvel Comics was that they're shutting down
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: the Ultimate Universe in April of next year.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: So I promised for real es this time.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and those were like the big ones that I noted.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Was there anything else that you saw that you wanted
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: to shout out? Yes?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, first of all, we got a bunch of
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: stuff on the upcoming Mighty nine from Critical Role, the
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: cartoon that's coming out. It's going to be longer than
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Vox Machina episodes, which is delightful both in length of
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: each episode and then in length of the series are
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: a season. We also got information that they aren't following
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: the order of the storyline that happened in the actual play.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: They're they're changing it around some uh to be better narratively,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: which we'll keep it fresh for people who have watched
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: the actual play but also make it easier to follow
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: for people who haven't. I'm very excited about it. I
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: am very confused about the Swamp thing meets Jesus Christ
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: four parter that's coming out from DC. Apparently they tried
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: to do it in the past and it got canceled,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: but now it's happening. Also, I think is his name
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: is Jim Lee, the guy who's kind of in charge
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: of Yeah, Jim Lee, the chief creative officer of DC,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: had a really good take on Superman falling into the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: public domain that I thought was worth mentioning. Did you
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: read that?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: No? I didn't see that, So.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna read straight from the page on the
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: pop verse dot com because his quote is very cool
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: because in twenty thirty four, one of the Superman's, like
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: the first Superman, will fall into the public domain. And
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Lie said, yes, characters will fall into the public domain.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: It's already happening. We've seen all these unsettling knockoffs of
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse floating around online. But here's the truth. The
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: character isn't the magic the storytelling is, the world building
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: is Owning Superman isn't the same as understanding Superman, knowing
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: how he moves, how he speaks, and what he stands for.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: And I thought that that was really cool.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: He also said, anyone can draw a cap or write
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: a hero, but it's about the stories you tell.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I would. I would argue that my biggest
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: problems with some some of the Superman projects that have
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: come out over the last ten fift teen years have
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: been because I felt the people telling those stories had
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: a fundamental misunderstanding of what Superman is.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I I am. The new Superman movie made me.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Hopeful, Yes, So yeah, that was much more in line
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: with what I want Superman to be. And I can
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: also understand, like you can have different interpretations of the
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: same character, and it's not like one interpretation is more
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: valid than another, but I do think one interpretation might
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: be way more satisfying than another for sure.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: And then we got some cool trailers, So let's talk
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: about those, starting with the one that I was most
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: excited for.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Disney Plus's Marvel series. Are you know, they're a
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: pretty big mix of things that are good and exciting,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: and I'm looking forward to them. And things that just
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: don't resonate with me, this one is fortunately one that
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: I am looking forward to. It is the Disney Plus
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: series for wonder Man, which is long been in development
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: and then even been finalized. Like it they shot. They
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: finished shooting that like last year. But you know, they've
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: held onto it because, as it turns out, there's some
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: meta commentary about things like the entertainment industry in general
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: and superhero films in particular, and there were other projects
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: that came out that clearly were similar to that in concept,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: and Disney didn't want this to get lost in the shuffle,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: so they held onto it, so it won't be coming
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: out until late January.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm fine with that. I'm looking forward to this
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: because of the meta commentary. Also, it's got Ben Kingsley
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: in it again and his character. They took a problematic
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: character in the MCU and made him hilarious.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Trevor Slattery aka the Mandarin Mandarin. Yeah.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: And the interesting thing to me is that, so the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: character that we're following, the protagonist is a working actor
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: whose character name is Simon Williams, who wants to try
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: an audition for a big superhero project where it's a
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: remake of a movie called wonder Man. In the MCU.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: There was a previous wonder Man movie in fact, and
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: I think it was a deleted scene in Guardians of
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: the Galaxy Too, you find out it's supposed to be
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Nathan Fillion starring as wonder Man in the remake, but
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: that was never I think that was never canon because
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: I think it was deleted. But yeah, so this is
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: a totally different actor who's doing this. What I'm curious
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: about is whether or not the MCU's version of Simon
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Williams has superpowers, because in the comics he does he
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: is wonder Man, But in this it appears that he's
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: an actor who's just trying to play the part of
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: wonder Man in a movie.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if he has powers or if he
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: will gain them. Tony tried to explain because it's one
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: of the ones that I'm less familiar with, but the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: trailer really resonated with me. Tony tried to explain Wonderman
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: to me, and it's kind of it feels like he's
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: the piece you put in when you don't want nowhere else.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: To what else to put in to fill a hole?
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, change is what he is and what he.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Needs to be.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: It's a yeah, same here. I was not very familiar
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: with the character at all, so I read up on
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: it and it was one of those where I was like, Oh,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: this is gonna be one of those experiences where I'm
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: going to read this. I'm going to read it through,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: maybe more than once, and by the end of it
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: still have no idea what they're talking about.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but the trailer looks really great.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: Yep. We also got a new trailer for Star Trek
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Starfleet Academy. We previously got a teaser for it. This
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: time we got a full trailer that gave us a
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: little bit of a deeper look into things like the
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: villain for the first season, or at least some of
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: the episodes. So I'm curious what your reaction was.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: I really liked the teaser. This trailer made me less excited.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: I have exactly the same thing written down.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Because the teaser felt, I mean, it felt very like
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: there was gonna be a whole bunch of discovery in it,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: and like this new trailer makes it makes it feel like,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: albeit there are some great moments. I think Holly Hunter
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: is going to be an amazing character. She makes me
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: laugh in the trailer, but overall it kind of feels
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: more like c W teeny boppery.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: See in mine, I wrote that I like the original
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: teaser because I felt that it made the series seem
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: curiosity focused. Yes, right, and that this made it look
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: a little too action film ish for my tastes, which,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: considering who's behind it, I'm not surprised.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Se curiosity was the word I was searching for, so
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: that is correct. I mean, it's correct even if I
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: didn't agree with it, or if that wasn't my thought,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: but I agree with you there. Yeah, I just there
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: was like a line where one of the characters is like,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: I might hurt you and the guy's like, I'm not afraid.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this just dropped straight out of and c
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: W drama.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. That's a good observation. And who knows. This again,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: like the teaser gave us a totally different feel than
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: this trailer did. Who knows, maybe there'll be another trailer
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: where we're like, oh, this is actually more what we
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: were looking for. It's hard to say, but I guess
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: I won't say anything about it at all because it
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: comes out January fifteenth on Paramount Plus and I don't
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: have Paramount Plus, so I'm not gonna be watching it anyway, I.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: Do plan on watching it. Paramount Plus is one of
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: those networks that because I can't I can't afford all
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: networks at all times, is one of the ones that
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: I get for a season, Yeah at a time, Yeah,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: which is how I watched Strange New world season three
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: and how I plan on watching Strange New Worlds season four.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We got a first look like essentially a four
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: minute chunk of an episode from season four, and that
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: was shown off at New York Comic Con. It's essentially
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: a scene in which the Enterprise has encountered a kind
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: of like an energy cloud of some sort in space
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: and detects a distress signal coming from within it, and
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: while investigating it appears that they end up getting snagged
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: by it. And I wrote this, I mean this makes
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: me think of like classic Star Trek.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, it really does. I like the four
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: minute scene. I the more and more that I watched
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Strange New Worlds, the more and more I like it.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: The last season was super strong and super fun, and
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: like I have some friends who have issues with it,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like it good because, like I had one
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: friend who said that they didn't like that people questioned
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: authority in it, and I'm like, it's okay that they
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: question authority. It's how they deal with it, and I
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: think the show deals with it well. But it's a
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: good mix of like serious episodes and fun episodes, which
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: for me, I like that mix. I enjoyed that about
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: TNG right, So I just I find the characters likable.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: You know, why do something if it's going to be
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: exactly the same. So I think it it treads new
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: ground while really feeling like what I love about Star Trek.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: Right, it doesn't just it doesn't just use the name
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: and the aesthetic, but you know, ditch everything else, which
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: is the problem I have with a lot of the
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: other more recent Star Trek projects.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: But I think I do think you would like some
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: of Strange New World if you watched it. I don't
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: know how far in you'd have.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: To get to be hooked, though, yeah i'd have to Again,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: I'd have to get Paramount plus first. So I just
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: don't see it happening something else I don't see it
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: happening is me watching Adventuretime Fiona and Cake season two,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: because I never watched adventure Time, and I didn't even
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: know there was a season one of Fiona. I just
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: thought that show was done. I did not realize that
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: there had been a spinoff series that came out. But
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: I had never really watched adventure Time in the first place. However,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: I thought I should include it because we may have
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: listeners who are big Adventure Time fans and they might
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: want to know that season two is coming out October
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: twenty third on HBO Max. Yeah.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: I did watch not all of Adventure Time, but a
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: lot of it. It was one of those things that
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: people around me enjoyed watching, and so I kind of
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: got sucked in. I can't say I ever enjoyed it,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: And half the time it was like some weird Nike
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Will induced fever dream.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched one of those. It was an improvised
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: Shakespeare show.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: But I I knew there was a Fiona and Cake series.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a lot longer ago, and it
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: had also ended. Apparently it was August to September twenty
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: twenty three, so it's been a couple of years, which
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: feels like an eternity. Yeah, it looks, it looks fun.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: It does have it does have notes of the things
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: that I did enjoy about Adventure Time, But the show
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: was so all over the place, I can't say that
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: I overall liked it. It had some very clever stuff
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: in it.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: I I am only barely aware of Adventure Time, Like,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: of course, I've heard the title, and I've seen little
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: tiny bits, and I know about bacon pancakes, and that's
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: Pancakes, bacon.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, if it weren't for that stupid bird, I wouldn't
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: even know about bake in pancakes.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: As adorable bird. There's a bird on social media who
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: likes to sing that song and it's so cute. Okay,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: speaking of cute, the trailer for Invincible season.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: Four was cute, I guess for a given definition of cute. Yeah,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: it shows. It's similar to other teasers they've done before,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: like when they're doing season announcements in which they have
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: two characters meeting and it's kind of a fourth wall
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: breaking meta conversation about the show where it's not set
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: within the world. It's not like you're seeing a scene
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: from the season. It's rather two characters who are actually
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: having a conversation about there being another season, And in
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: this case, we see Invincible, complete with like robotic casts
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: over to his arms in one leg because he got
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: them so pulverized at the end of season three, talking
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: to Adam Eve and contemplating eating a seriously moldy burger
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: in what looks to be a bombed out burger joint.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: But it's all to promote the launch of season four,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: which will be coming out in March twenty twenty six.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: Did you ever watch season three?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: No? So I've actually been trying to get us to
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: go back and watch it because I did enjoy it.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: I feel like, unlike The Boys, it has a better
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: balance to the story it tells it does.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: It does, but there is a trope that's playing out,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: and I'm sure this is in the comic book too,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: So I don't want to lay all this on the show,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: but there's a trope that continues to play out that
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: I am absolutely sick of, which is, you know, ninety
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: nine times out of one hundred, character appears to be
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: beaten to death and then someone ends up grabbing that
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: character's body and putting it in a secret location and
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: bump up a bomb. It turns out they're not actually
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: dead there only, as Miracle Max would say, mostly missed dead. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: that that happens again and again, unless it's a character
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: you actually like, in which case that that sucker stays dead.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is invincible, so it doesn't surprise me
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: that a lot of the characters are invincible. I completely
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: missed the fact that he had cast on his arms
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: and leg.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, I mean they look like it looks
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: like his arms have been replaced by robot arms and
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: a robot leg as well, although that would be replacing
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: his leg, not his arms, But.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: I mean he could have a robot leg on his arm.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: You'd never know.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I had to go back and look at what happened,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: because it's been long enough since I've watched season three
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: that I couldn't exactly remember. And I was like, did
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: he get his arms and leg ripped off and now
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: he's got robot arms and a robot leg? Because that's
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: not that's not outside the realm of possibility of invincible.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: That could have been a thing that happened. But no,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: I think I think they're meant to be protecting him.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: While he heals is my guess, gotcha?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Like I do want to go back and watch it,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: because I did enjoy what I saw, but it's been
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: so long that like trying to figure out where we
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: left off and remembering what happened. It feels like a task.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: It's something that I want to do, and my husband
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: wants to do as well, because we watch it together.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: But it just we haven't gotten there yet totally. Well.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: Next up, we got a trailer for a prime Amazon
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: Prime video series called bat Fam, which looks very silly.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: It's a spin off of a twenty twenty three holiday
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: film that was titled Mary Little Batman. I have not
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: seen it, so I have. Oh okay, so this must
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: have made a little more sense to you than it
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: did to.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: Me a little bit. So Mary Little Batman was one
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: that I watched begrudgingly because my husband and some of
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: his friends like to watch a lot of the Batman
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: Batman cartoons and one off movies that come out. In fact,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: we have a poster in our day in our basement
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: bathroom that says bathroom and it's Batman sitting on a toilet.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: So that's my household. Tony Loves Batman. I didn't. I
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: don't like the art style and I thought it would
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: bother me, But the story was actually really cute for
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Mary Little Batman. I actually enjoyed it quite a bit,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: and I was very surprised this trailer, it also doesn't
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: super appeal to me, but I'm hoping that I enjoy
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: it like I enjoyed the first movie.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. When I watched this trailer, it was one of
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: those things. I think I've talked about this in recent
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: episodes about other comedies where I recognize that the thing
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: they're presenting is in the form of a joke, but
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: it seems to be missing that thing you know about
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: being funny. And that's the problem I have is I'm like,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: this sounds like a joke, like it sounds like it's
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: set up in Punchline, but I'm not finding any of
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: it even remotely funny. It just feels like they're they're
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: following the format but not actually putting anything really clever
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: in there. But I'm also a notorious sour puss. Yeah, I.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: We'll see it. Is it is goofy and dorky. Yeah,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: but gosh, who plays who plays Batman? I can't remember.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know the thing. The one thing I thought
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: was funny was that one of their housemates in this
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: series is man Bat and that's just that's just crazy.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: While you look up who's playing who, I will.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Say Wilson plays Bruce Wayne.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: Okay. The series comes out on November tenth on Amazon
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: Prime Video.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll watch it. I'll let you know how it is.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: Mary Latmus was cute, but from going from bats to
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: vampires because that is the logical evolution.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: Yep. I totally meant to do that when I rearranged
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: the lineup.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: We got a trailer for something called The Vampire Lestat,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: which looks like it's a spin off of Interview with
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: a Vampire.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: Technically it's season three of Interview with the Vampire series,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: but they, for reasons I don't fully understand, they have
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: subtitled or maybe just titled this season the Vampire Less
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: stat Lstat is one of the characters from an Interview
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: with a Vampire. If you saw the old film that
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: came out by Old it makes me shiver because I
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: saw that in the theater. But the one that had
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: like Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise in it. Tom Cruise
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: played lastat in that one. So that's this character. He's
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: a a vain, narcissistic vampire with he loves to be adored,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: So he has like a vampire rock band that he's
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: the front man for. He's kind of a hedonistic kind
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: of dude, and so it seems like this series is
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: going to follow him and his exploits while he is
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: completely alienating people who are totally fed up with his BS?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Does I don't you haven't watched the previous two seasons, right.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: No, But I mean I've seen so I've only ever
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: seen the film adaptation with Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: and those folks. I've only ever seen that thing. I've
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: never read the book, and I haven't seen the other series.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, because I was just wondering if the other series
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: went into present day like this one does.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Interview with the Vampire starts off. I mean
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: present day I think would be the nineteen seventies, because
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: I think that's when the original book came out. But
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: you could always just update that, right, So in Interview
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: with the Vampire, the actual titular interview that's happening is
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: happening in modern day. The idea is that Uh, this
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: vampire named Louis is granting an interview with a journalist
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: and revealing all these vampiic secrets, including the existence of
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: le stat Like that's that's all part of the plot
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: of that original novel, gotcha. And then and then you
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: you get flashbacks to the history where all the different,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: you know, vampiric events happened. Gotcha.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: I like, it's always looked the series look good to me.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: I watched the movie, but I don't remember anything about it,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: but it does look a little spicy for me, which
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: is why I haven't delved in. Uh.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm not a big fan of shows that
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: follow a character who is a narcissist, so so I
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: don't have I don't have, Like I'm not a big
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: fan of Anne Rice's vampire stories in general. Like when
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: I saw an Interview with the Vampire, like it was
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: already like that title was already a big, big deal
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: by the time that film came out, Like it was,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: you know, two decades after the novel had come out,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: I think, or around that amount of time, and I
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: watched it and thought, yeah, this isn't for me, and
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: that's kind of how I felt. Ever, since and I
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: also like, I don't like the variation on vampires that
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: Ann Rice worked with. Not that not that there's anything
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: wrong with being a fan of that, It's just not
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: my preferred manifestation of vampires, which is unfortunate because it
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: informed like portrayals of vampiorism for for essentially the following
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: three decades.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but you know, now we've got a wide
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: plethora of vampires.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, you can pick and choose your favorite flavor of vampire.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: Included musical vampires because Lost Boys is going to Broadways
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: We've mentioned.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: Before, but that's not what we're talking about here.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: No, but I was trying to segue poorly into our
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: final bits roadway along.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So what Ariel is mumbling about is that we're
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: getting Is it a pro shot? Is that what this is?
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: I think?
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: So it's hard to say because the the preview that
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: we get, uh was like I didn't hear any audience
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: at all in the in the trailer, but then it
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: was mostly like it sounded to me like it was
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: the soundtrack recording of the songs mostly playing underneath, but
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: it is a performance of Merrily We Roll Along. Jonathan
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: Groff and Daniel Radcliffe are in it. This is a
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: Stephen Sondheim musical. It's about a group of three friends
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: and how their friendship has deteriorated over you know, decades,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: and at least the stage play version, and I'm assuming
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: this version too, is told in reverse chronological order. So
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the play, you see when these friendships
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: are like absolutely falling apart, and then as the play
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: goes on, you're going further back in time when they
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: are less successful as creatives and professionals, but they're stronger
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: in their friendship with one another.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so the internet seems to be of the consensus
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: that this is a pro shot. You know, this is
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: the cast of the revival that happened recently, which, like,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you were off of social media
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: by that time, but watching them do like interviews and stuff,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: it looks like they really developed a really good friendship
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: during the run of the musical on Broadway. So for
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: that reason alone, it makes me a little bit to
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: watch it.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this comes out December fifth, so it's not that
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: long before it'll be around. Honestly, I'm always happy when
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: there is a pro shot, particularly of like a really
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: good adaptation of whatever the play is, or a good
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: rendition of that play, because obviously is incredibly challenging to
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: see shows, particularly with a specific cast, Like you've got
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: to be in the right place at the right time,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: with the right amount of money, and it is hard
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: to do. And I can honestly say that if it
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: weren't for this pro shot, I would wouldn't even have
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: had a chance to have seen this. So I'm still
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: not sure if I'm going to because I'm not the
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: biggest Sondheim fan. I realize that he has a reputation
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: of being incredibly important and Broadway, and I don't deny that,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't change the fact that I don't like
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: most of his shows.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: And that's okay. I you know, I'm glad we're getting
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: so many pro shots lately. I hope some of them
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: make it to the US, because like six just got
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: a pro shot with the original cast. I think they
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: also just did a pro shot with Hades Town.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah that also happened in England. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: was the original cast of Hadestown too, because that was
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: a big deal that they got everyone back together and
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: they I think they did like a month of performances
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: or something, and then over the course of two or
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: three nights they shot the pro shot.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I still want a pro shot of Beetlejuice.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: But the cast on Broadway now is the touring cast,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: which is awesome for them. I'm so happy. However, however,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: we are also getting a pro shot of the Shakespeare
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: in the Park Twelfth Night with Peter dinklic Oh nice. Yeah,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: PBS is going to broadcast it. Maybe they already have.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: I just found out about it. But uh, I, oh no,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: it'll it'll uh it'll come out. Oh gosh, when is
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: it coming out? I don't think we've missed it yet.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: But the you know, the the show was in Central Park.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: But I liked the last great performances Twelfth Night with
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: Paul Rudd and Olivia. I don't remember everybody all of
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: a sudden, everybody's the woman from that about you.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: It doesn't help me, ye, Helen Hunt.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: Helen Hunt, which is that what I said? Was in
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Starfleet Academy, because that's not who is in Starfleet Academy. Gosh,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: I'm losing my mind, y'all Starfleet Academy is Holly Hunter.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: Hell Hunt was in.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: Twelfth Night with Paul run, I think you. I think
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: you said Holly Hunter. The first time. It didn't it
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: didn't trigger my brain. But then, let's be fair, I
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: got a brain of Swiss cheese, so it's possible I
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: missed it at the time. But I promise that's who
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: she was thinking of, even if it's not who she said.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: But I think that's who you said.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: Yes. But back in nineteen ninety eight, PBS released a
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: version of Twelfth Night with Helen Hunt, Paul Rudd, Kevin
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: Daniels of Shoot, who played who played what's her face?
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: Cira Sedgwick. It was amazing, It was amazing.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: Well, in case you are curious, because I looked it
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: up while you were having.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: That episode having an episode?
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: Yet, is that is that twelfth Night? PBS is broadcasting
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: it on November fourteenth.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, good, I didn't think I missed it. I'm
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: looking forward to it very okay.
• 1:31:01
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• 1:31:04
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• 1:31:07
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• 1:31:09
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