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Best of Chuck & Buck 12-23 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: It's some time. Good morning class, ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, behold.
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  Speaker 3: In producing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former
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  Speaker 3: high school basketball stand what in the hell does that mean?
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  Speaker 4: Don't jumped any conclusions.
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  Speaker 1: Not a god, You've got to lower lower your expectations.
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  Speaker 3: Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting some Bucky Jacobson vibes and former will just
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  Speaker 1: openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped X athlete.
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  Speaker 3: Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
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  Speaker 3: A five seven guard and a former college water polo
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  Speaker 3: and national champion.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of useless crap up here.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
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  Speaker 3: Ashley Ryan. What to you buy to Lato Casino Resort
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  Speaker 3: and Quilsee to Greek Draft King sports book where the
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  Speaker 3: action never stopped?
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Well, good morning, uh and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the program. We have four hours of radio. But it
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  Speaker 1: is not Chuck. He again is taking another day off,
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  Speaker 1: and rightfully so and well deserved. He needs to get
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  Speaker 1: rested up so that he can deal with Ashley and.
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  Speaker 2: I ain't that the truth.
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  Speaker 5: I can barely see you in there by the way,
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  Speaker 5: Is it dark?
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  Speaker 2: It is dark.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, I think that's Bucky. I just have
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  Speaker 5: to dim my lights to match his lights.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna I'll turn him up because it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to not be able to see
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  Speaker 1: all of this and in all of its glory. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Or I'll just turn it all the way off. You
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  Speaker 1: can just stare into a dark room.
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  Speaker 5: Either way, just as song as we're not in this
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  Speaker 5: middle portion that we're in right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you just just my face with the glow of
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  Speaker 1: these computer screens. I'm sure that'd be wonderful. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was anders. I think Andrews was in here doing
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  Speaker 1: the hockey game, and he probably dims the lights, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for mood.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and whatnot.
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  Speaker 5: That makes sense, I guess, because yeah, where the lights
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  Speaker 5: are right now with the chis is probably really good radio.
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  Speaker 5: But all I can really see is the outline of
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  Speaker 5: my big white door behind me in my reflection of
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  Speaker 5: the glass, and then your face is just kind of
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  Speaker 5: faded behind that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, then it's probably you're probably better off for it.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna I don't want to see shoe. I'm
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  Speaker 1: un a shoe by turning the lights up after it,
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  Speaker 1: I'll appreciate it. Yeah, okay, all right, good, Well, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, we got four hours of radio, no Chuck,
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  Speaker 1: just Ashley and I today, no Hue. That's fine. Then
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  Speaker 1: we don't have to die. We don't have to talk
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  Speaker 1: about nothing but football, because there's other things to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know for sure if there's anything more important
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  Speaker 1: or well, I don't even know if you call this important.
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  Speaker 1: Probably bigger story that has some ties to the Seattle
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  Speaker 1: folks here other than the whole DK situation. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: a doozy what I mean. Obviously we discussed yesterday that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, somewhere towards the end of the game this
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  Speaker 1: weekend Steelers against the Lions in Detroit. Everybody's seen at
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  Speaker 1: this point unless you've been living under a rock, that
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  Speaker 1: he decided to go over to a fan and somebody
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  Speaker 1: had been obviously heckling him and saying some stuff. His
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  Speaker 1: side of the story is that he called him the
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  Speaker 1: N word and called his mother the sea word. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: both of which in a just regular setting I would
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  Speaker 1: say warrant getting slapped upside the face either or not
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  Speaker 1: to mention if you did both. Now, I ended up
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  Speaker 1: seeing a video yesterday of someone right there, I mean
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  Speaker 1: in the stands. I didn't hear any of that. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if he said it when he was right up close
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  Speaker 1: to him, when he was kind of bending down and
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  Speaker 1: and DK looked like kind of grabbed his shirt before
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  Speaker 1: he took a swipe at took a swipe at him
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  Speaker 1: trying to hit him or did hit him, Yeah, if
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  Speaker 1: he said it right there, yeah, you didn't catch that.
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  Speaker 1: But leading up to it, what cat on that video
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  Speaker 1: wasn't anything other than your typical heckling.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, just people yelling and they were like, don't sign it,
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  Speaker 5: like he wanted to sign his Lion's shirt.
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  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I don't. Yeah, who knows.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't understand the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know for sure if we will ever get
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  Speaker 1: the whole truth and nothing but the truth DK is
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  Speaker 1: for you know, he's coming out on his and saying
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  Speaker 1: I've had issues with this guy before. Apparently he had
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  Speaker 1: reported this this fan back when he was a Seahawk.
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  Speaker 1: He had reported him to the Seahawks security team because
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  Speaker 1: of him saying inappropriate things. Are just Dek not liking
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  Speaker 1: him saying anything, and then now this time he basically
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  Speaker 1: ends up having a physical confrontation with the guy that
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  Speaker 1: now he's going to be suspended for the rest of
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  Speaker 1: this regular season, which is going to cost him five
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  Speaker 1: hundred and forty four thousand dollars. And that's not even
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  Speaker 1: the worst of it. The worst is that that looks
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  Speaker 1: like pennies. Yeah, forty five million dollars of guaranteed money
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  Speaker 1: that was in his big one hundred plus million dollar
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  Speaker 1: contract is now at the risk of being it's not
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  Speaker 1: guaranteed now doesn't mean that he's not going to make
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  Speaker 1: it or can't still make it. It just gives the
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  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers an out if they want to get out.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's a doozy. Now he's putting up
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  Speaker 1: he's not having a great season, but that they are
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  Speaker 1: not having a great offensive season. He's starting to come
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  Speaker 1: on a little bit as of late. I think Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Rodgers is starting to recognize what it is that he
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  Speaker 1: how he does what he does, and their connection is
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  Speaker 1: getting a little better. But I don't know for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you just you basically feel like you're skating
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  Speaker 1: on thin ice. If I'm dk now with the idea
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  Speaker 1: of man, I do anything wrong, they can get rid
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  Speaker 1: of me and they don't owe me that guaranteed money
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  Speaker 1: that was in my contract because he's done something that
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  Speaker 1: Somewhere in the contract there was the verbiage of if
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  Speaker 1: you do something detrimental to the team, or you miss
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  Speaker 1: games because of something other than an injury, then you
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  Speaker 1: this stuff is not guaranteed anymore. So now all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, you're just playing on a contract that you
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  Speaker 1: don't have basically the guarantee, which is I think what
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  Speaker 1: most of these guys are going for when they're trying
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  Speaker 1: to get these new contracts. So I feel for them.
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  Speaker 1: At the same time, I don't. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say that it's that it's right for a
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  Speaker 1: fan to say anything, because I think fans are far
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  Speaker 1: too emboldened these days to just talk trash without the
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  Speaker 1: fear of consequences. But the consequences cannot ever be you
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  Speaker 1: taking a swipe at them, you trying to punch them.
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  Speaker 1: As an athlete, you just part of what goes into
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  Speaker 1: being a pro athlete is all of the extra stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It's not you know, you just get to play a
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  Speaker 1: game and you get to act a fool. If so,
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  Speaker 1: you don't like how somebody says something to you, or
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  Speaker 1: or how things are going you. Part of your job
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  Speaker 1: is acting professional, even in the light of somebody else
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  Speaker 1: acting like an a hole, you know, I mean, what's
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  Speaker 1: your thought. I mean, do you think the suspension for
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the regular season, and the stipulation of
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  Speaker 1: what it's possibly going to do to his contract moving forward,
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  Speaker 1: do you think that's fair?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's a lot more than I
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  Speaker 5: thought was going to happen to him. I thought maybe
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  Speaker 5: he'd get fined.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't.
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  Speaker 5: I would have he should be suspended for a game,
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  Speaker 5: but I didn't know that they would do that, so
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  Speaker 5: I was quite surprised to see the two game suspension.
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  Speaker 5: I think the biggest issue when I've watched all of
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  Speaker 5: these angles of the videos over and over and over,
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  Speaker 5: is that DK could have avoided this situation. He's on
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  Speaker 5: the sideline, the guy's yelling at him. All you have
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  Speaker 5: to do is walk the other direction. Instead, he stood there,
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  Speaker 5: listen to it for a bit, then chose to walk
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  Speaker 5: up to the fan and start this altercation. The guy
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  Speaker 5: is in the stands, He's not coming down on the field.
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  Speaker 5: He's not going to come attack you. So if you
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  Speaker 5: go the other direction, you avoid the whole thing. And
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  Speaker 5: in this situation, it's your livelihood and your name. No
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  Speaker 5: one knows who this guy is or knew who this
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  Speaker 5: guy was before this altercation happened. Everyone knows who you are,
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  Speaker 5: so you've got to protect the reputation that you have.
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  Speaker 2: And he didn't do that.
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  Speaker 5: He put himself in this, in this situation, and he said,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I feel for him. Yeah, I feel for
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  Speaker 5: him in the sense that if this guy has had
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  Speaker 5: if he's had issues with this guy over and over again,
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  Speaker 5: or if this guy did say what DK's saying he
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  Speaker 5: said and not what the fan is because the fans
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  Speaker 5: saying he just called him by his full name, and
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  Speaker 5: we're like, hired a lawyer already and has put out
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  Speaker 5: a statement and is probably now gonna sue Dkay oh yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and so in that But again, the reason I don't
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  Speaker 5: feel for him is because it never had to happen.
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  Speaker 5: All he had to do was go the other direction.
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  Speaker 5: You are down on the field, you were twenty feet
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  Speaker 5: away from him. You could have walked the other way
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  Speaker 5: instead of turning around and going over to the fan
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  Speaker 5: and Honestly, someone from the Steelers should have been on
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  Speaker 5: it to have pulled him away as he started walking
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  Speaker 5: to the guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well that teammate wise or coaching staff wise. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. I mean, but then again,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know for sure if DK is one that
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  Speaker 1: takes prodding or probing or anything. Hey dude, do this.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the direction you need to go, whether it's physically
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  Speaker 1: direction go to that direction or just taking direction. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that he's completely uncoachable, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to say that he's not the most coachable. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I just don't think that. I think that
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  Speaker 1: he has a little bit of the I'm kind of
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  Speaker 1: a one of one. Yeah you are physically, but you're
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  Speaker 1: not even close to one of one between the years
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to how to handle yourself. We watched
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  Speaker 1: it here and it was one of the more frustrating things.
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  Speaker 1: There was frustration, legitimate frustration about how he was used
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  Speaker 1: in the offense. And you know, I mean I buy
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  Speaker 1: into a lot of what Hugh says. I think Hughes
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  Speaker 1: football knowledge is off the charts. So when he's saying
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  Speaker 1: you gotta take a shot to this guy at least
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  Speaker 1: once a game or once a half or whatever it is,
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  Speaker 1: and you have to just try to pound the ball
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  Speaker 1: to this guy because of what he brings to the
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  Speaker 1: table physically and how he can change a game. I
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  Speaker 1: was on board with that and understood that, and the
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  Speaker 1: fact that that didn't happen for majority of the time
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  Speaker 1: that he was a Seahawk, I can understand where frustration
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  Speaker 1: would be on the flip side of it. There's other parts.
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  Speaker 1: I think that that maybe he doesn't do the same
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  Speaker 1: as Jackson Smith and Jigba, Like wouldn't a quarterback first
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  Speaker 1: and foremost want to be able to know you're going
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  Speaker 1: to be exactly where you're going to be. I mean
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  Speaker 1: to the half a yard, I mean exactly. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that he was that great at it. Otherwise, his
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  Speaker 1: physical attributes combined with his route running. If it was
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  Speaker 1: like Jackson Smith and Jigba, he's not going to be
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  Speaker 1: He's going to be the one setting all the records.
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  Speaker 1: But now Jackson Smith and Jigma's blowing that stuff, blowing
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  Speaker 1: that stuff out of the water, and good for Seahawks fans. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anybody is you know, sitting
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  Speaker 1: here wishing that they had him back at thirty million
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  Speaker 1: dollars a year so that he can get personal foul
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  Speaker 1: penalties and we can hope that at some point reaches
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  Speaker 1: his ceiling. But back to the kind of the idea
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  Speaker 1: or the situation at hand, I'm with you. There's a
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  Speaker 1: way in which you could handle it, which is very easy.
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  Speaker 1: You just ignore them, right, And it's hard.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't feel like I mean, you know, it doesn't
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  Speaker 5: feel good to let someone just get away with saying
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  Speaker 5: horrible things to you.
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  Speaker 2: No, doesn't feel good.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean for the sake of I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not one hundred percent sure the guy would have said
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  Speaker 1: it or did say it somebody. There is people that
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  Speaker 1: would say those things, and those people are not good people,
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  Speaker 1: and it would be nice if they get caught, if
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  Speaker 1: they're at a venue and they're saying things like that
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  Speaker 1: to the athlete and get it, you know, kicked out.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know how you keep somebody from ever
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  Speaker 1: coming back. Whenever they say somebody's banned forever. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: facial recognition when you walk into a stadium, But how
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  Speaker 1: do they keep you out? Right, You're gonna have somebody
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  Speaker 1: else buy the ticket. Your name never has to go
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  Speaker 1: near it. You can just go walking in with the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the herd. But the idea of you're out
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  Speaker 1: here for this game. We just heard you call him
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  Speaker 1: the N word, or we've heard what she called his mom.
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  Speaker 1: If we're going to take DK at his word that
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  Speaker 1: that was said, that's unfortunate. And yesterday I said, I
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  Speaker 1: how during my career I was an easy target for heckling. Right,
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  Speaker 1: It just with my name and what it rhymes with,
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  Speaker 1: and being kind of a bigger guy. And I had
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  Speaker 1: a you know, propensity to strike out, and so there'd
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  Speaker 1: be I'd be the beer batter of the game, right
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  Speaker 1: where if you strike out, beers are on sale for
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  Speaker 1: the next half inning or something. Well, they would do that,
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  Speaker 1: and I loved it. Like some I had teammates that
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  Speaker 1: hated it. It added pressure. They didn't like the fact
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  Speaker 1: that when they get two strikes the crowd really comes
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  Speaker 1: alive because they want cheaper beer. Yeah, I loved it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I ate it up. I had sometimes when
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  Speaker 1: people would maybe toe the line of going over the
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  Speaker 1: top right where I don't know if fat shaming is
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  Speaker 1: necessary now, that's completely different than a racial slur right
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  Speaker 1: like in today's well in no time should it have been. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: But I mean fifty years ago it was more common.
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  Speaker 1: It was all the time, right. I mean, if you
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  Speaker 1: when when African Americans got put in yet you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're allowed to play in sports, they got abused.
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  Speaker 2: When you say fifty years ago, I felt like that
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  Speaker 2: was a really long time ago. That was still the eighties. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's how old we are, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well seventy seventy seven, so it is even longer
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  Speaker 1: than fifty years ago.
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  Speaker 4: There years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but even fifty years ago, it wasn't good. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't fun. It was worse for a black
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  Speaker 1: athlete back then than it is now. That said, that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that, hey, since it's so much better, you
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  Speaker 1: rarely get called that that you should just let it
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  Speaker 1: roll off your back. No, it's not, it's not okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not okay. So, if DK was telling the truth
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  Speaker 1: that the guy said that, I can see why you'd
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  Speaker 1: want to punch him in the face, right, he deserves
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  Speaker 1: to be punched in the face. You just can't do it,
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  Speaker 1: right then, correct, you can't. I mean, you can not
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  Speaker 1: do it. It's unprofessional. And you're right, it's not even
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  Speaker 1: about the money. It's not about but it's not about
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  Speaker 1: the principle either. It's about you have you and your
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  Speaker 1: name that you need to stand on, right. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: as a kid, when I was growing up, there was
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  Speaker 1: one of the big rules was do not embarrass our family,
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  Speaker 1: meaning don't do things that you know would come back
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  Speaker 1: and shine a light as to my mom or dad
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  Speaker 1: being like, we didn't raise you like that, like that,
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  Speaker 1: like if I ever had that. I got caught stealing
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  Speaker 1: one time. I don't know why, I decided to steal
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  Speaker 1: some weightlifting gloves when I was twelve, and it was
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  Speaker 1: the butt whoop and I got and the grounding for
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  Speaker 1: the entire summer was not because necessarily that I tried
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  Speaker 1: to take something that was twelve dollars and I didn't
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  Speaker 1: pay for it. It was the principal behind we didn't
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  Speaker 1: raise you. You're not a thief. We didn't raise you
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  Speaker 1: that you can just take something even if you don't
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  Speaker 1: have the money for it. We didn't raise you in
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  Speaker 1: a way in which you're going to act like that.
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  Speaker 1: And so it was the embarrassment to the name right
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  Speaker 1: to my my family's name, that it was like, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to you're gonna pay for this one, gonna you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna feel this punishment. This is going to be more
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  Speaker 1: than your average go to your room and think about
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  Speaker 1: what you did type of thing. And and to me,
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  Speaker 1: so that sticks with me, and that's kind of part
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  Speaker 1: of the reason why when we talk about all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of different topics, I have a hard time with athletes
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  Speaker 1: more so today. Not to say it hasn't always been there,
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  Speaker 1: because you've had athletes that have have clap back at fans.
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  Speaker 1: You've had athletes that have have done something like this before,
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  Speaker 1: wanted to go into the stands, tried to go into
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  Speaker 1: the stands. You've had stuff like this happen. But it
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  Speaker 1: seems more now like there's the talk is more, for sure,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's the talk amongst competitors on the field is more,
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  Speaker 1: and then that the emboldened fan is more. They can't
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  Speaker 1: wait to say stuff and they will. The line has
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  Speaker 1: been pushed further to where they I think they can
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  Speaker 1: get away with doing more. And then the response to
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  Speaker 1: it or the players not having the ability to just
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  Speaker 1: turn around and ignore it and just take it as
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  Speaker 1: that's part of the game. You know part of the
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  Speaker 1: entertainment aspect of this. As I play in front of
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  Speaker 1: sixty seventy thousand people, and there's going to be a
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: nice little chunk them that are giant a holes. They're
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: going to say stuff that they shouldn't and MY job
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: is to just go out and continue to perform for
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: those that aren't a holes while that guy gets to watch.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I just have to ignore it and let it go.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: And yet he just doesn't have the ability to do that,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: which is a bit worrisome because the real world is
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: still out there, right, You're still living in the real world.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Even though you get to play a job and make
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: fantasy money while you just get to run around and
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: play football, you still are in the real world, and
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: majority of your life is going to be lived in
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: the real world. And I don't feel like this guy
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: has a temperament that allows him to really what's the
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: word like kind of gauge how am I supposed to act?
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Based on this situation at hand. I feel like he
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: really misses the boat on certain things. And it's unfortunate
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: because I don't know for sure if you can teach
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: this age dog a new trick of how dude you
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: got to get yourself under control, man, because you're I
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: just I fear it's the Antonio Brown effect kind of right,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: like you just for some reason, it feels like there's
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of athletes nowadays that because they live in
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: this world of I am pretty special, that it translates
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: outside of the game, and when you're not even playing
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the game, you're standing on the sidelines. I don't have rules.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: The rules of society don't necessarily pertain to me. And
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I just don't think that's the case. And I think
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: that you end up running into a bunch of hardships
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: if you do think that's the case. Yeah.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Well, and I think in just in this situation too,
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: it's you know, there's so many videos out there, and
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: you can't hear this guy say the words that DK
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: has said. He's said right, so unless he said it
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: up close and nobody can hear it.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: There's one thing there, right.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: The other thing is DK notoriously has put himself above
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: his teammates, and here's another situation of him doing it
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: to an extreme level where now he is actually detrimental
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: to his team. They have two games left, they're trying
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: to make the playoffs, and now he's pending an appeal,
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: gonna miss him both. And then on top of that,
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: he's detrimental to himself in his livelihood because of what
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: he's done. And it's like you saw these small glimpses
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: of it on a much smaller scale when he was here. Right,
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: gets whine, he whinds when he doesn't get the ball
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: thrown his way, he gets angry when defenders get under
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: his skin, and those are the things that really, for
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: how long he's been in the league, somebody should have
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: been working with him on that, because it's so easy
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: for people to get under his skin, and so's there's
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: really no excuse for why this happens. And then you
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: need to think too as as the professional athlete. You
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: know what, it's ridiculous that these fans think because they
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: bought a ticket, they can say whatever they want to
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: us and we have to take it. I agree, that
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: is ridiculous, and I have no place in my heart
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: for a fan who thinks that they are owed that
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: because they paid money for a ticket. Right, But you
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: don't win if you engage, Right. If you don't engage,
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: you walk away, and then you go score a touchdown.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Now you just won you shut that fan.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Up right, Yeah, that was where I was going with
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the idea of I used to enjoy the idea of
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: getting backled, and again you kind of wanted to real
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: quickly correct the idea of me getting made fun of
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: because I'm big or fat or bald or my name
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: rhymes with bad words. That's completely different than getting called
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: the N word. One hundred percent to understand that, right,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the idea. I mean, some people might say fat shaming
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: is just as bad. I don't necessarily I'm a big guy.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Wasn't he a fat when they were making fun of me?
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Not like I am Now, I would say that, yes,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: they're not the same, and yet it's the same concept.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: The concept is they're trying to get under my skin.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: You have a couple options. You can try to ignore
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: it even though it pisses you off.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: You can engage. You can never engage physically, but you
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: can engage. I actually because I saw it as an
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: opportunity to to kind of shut them up. Like when
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: people you hear me all the time, I don't like
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: when people are chirping, when they yapping and they talking
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: a bunch of trash. Why do I not like it
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: because it almost sets you up for when you go
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: fail that it makes it doubly bad. Right, you're talking
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: all this trash and then you go out and get burnt,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: or you're talking all this trash and then you go
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: out there and you fail. To me, it's like, oh man,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: that's got to sting twice as bad because you were
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: talking trash. Well, when a fan starts it would start
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: with me. I would end up immediately turn around, be like,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad you got to come and watch me
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: play today, right, And then there'd be a couple of
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: fans laughing around him. He'd be like, oh, he's engaging, okay,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: and he'd keep coming back. Well. Inevitably, it's like if
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I struck out and he's like, yeah, that's right, you
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: suck and this happened, I'd be like, yeah, but I
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: get to go back up there and try to go
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: yard next time, right, or next time it came on deck,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: he would start talking and I'm like, I'm gonna do this.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: This one's for you, kid, And then eventually when i'd
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: hit a bomb, I'd come back and wink at or
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: tip my cap to and be like, you want to
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: go get that it's probably like a five dollars cab,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: right to go get that ball? Right? Can you go
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: get that for me? Next thing? You know, that whole
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: section was like a fan of me, not because I engaged,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: but because I engaged in a way that was fun
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: right now, different than being called the N word, I understand.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: But I don't think DK is capable of what I
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: just said. I don't think that he is capable of
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: taking a Heckler and flipping the script on him and
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: turn it into I'm going to show you how much
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: control I have because I don't think.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, where it's like you could go catch a touchdown
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: and then run over and give him the ball, yeah,
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: and then go back to the bench.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I just unfortunately I don't think he has it.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: But no, it is what it is. We will probably
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: discuss this a little further. We're gonna have a bunch
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: of people and we got to find out what else
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: is on tap? What's on tap? What's on tap? All right?
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: We got a lot going on today. The Mariners did
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: make a move. We're gonna discuss that. Uh, Philip Rivers,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I did want to talk a little bit about, uh,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the old man going out there and dealing again. Last
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: night it was in a loss, but he's still dealt.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have Greg Bell. We're gonna have Mike k
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: He's a writer from Charlotte. He's gonna come on and
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: help us discuss the Panthers. We're gonna have the One
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: and Only Jean's Territory. We gotta get a little Gene
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: time in. We're gonna have FITZI on to discuss the
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Kraken and the fact they got off the schneid a
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: little bit with the win last night. Tricky Ricky new Heizel,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have him on discuss the college football playoffs.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I want to get Ashley's confidence meter. Where we're sitting
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: right now with something that comes to the Seahawks. And again,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: we're going to talk a little bit more about the
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Mariners free agency. But on the other side of this,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: we are going to get into the Mariners and their
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: most recent signing and free agency on the other side
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: here at Sports Radio ninety three point three KGRFM. Although
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: that's a pretty funny game.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is a funny game because people get really
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: annoyed by that song.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: So I had to play it at least once.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Le Chris, Okay, I had no idea.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Just like a PayPal commercial, you know, you mean twice
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: every break, every single time we're on, so.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: You'd have to play it like again right now, every.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Bumper in the middle of the segment.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Ago that commercial, I mean, PayPal must be paying a lot.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's it's really something. I'll say that,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: it's really something.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: That's why we make so much money.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Sure, it's always fun when you know every single word
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: of a commercial because you hear it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Twice about every single break.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so all the listeners out there that do text
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: in like really PayPal enough enough yea, we get it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: We're with you.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we hear it too. So yeah, that's uh, it
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: is what it is. But I guess that's what pays
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the bills around here, the bills, and I did paypals
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: of the bills, and I did turn the lights on it.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: You see about it your face now, look, you are
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: so welcome. I love it all right, Well, onto the
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: topic at hand. Mariners did make a move yesterday. Uh
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: it's not like Kyle Tucker, but I don't mind this deal.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: This this move. They ended up signing Rob Refschneider he's
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: a kind of a journeyman. I guess you'd say, I
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: think he's thirty four years old. Thirty four, Yeah, I
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: think he turns thirty five on opening Day. Okay, kind
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: of a career backup dude has not really ever had
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: a season that he goes out and puts up any
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: sort of crazy numbers. Not known for his defense, but
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: he is known to be able to play a lot
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: of different positions. He can place, you can play anywhere
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: in the outfield, not great birth catch most of the balls.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: He's played a little bit second, and he has he
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: can play some first base. And so I think this
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: is a move where you got yourself a bit of
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: you have a utility guy, but not for defense, just
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: because you can put him in anywhere. And he rakes
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: left handed pitching. I mean he's one of the better
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: right handed hitters against lefties as far as his hard
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: hit rate. I mean, he's up there. I think it
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: was Luke Arkins had wrote an article on it that
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I had read earlier this morning, I think, and he
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: was I don't remember the numbers exactly, and I don't
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: have in front of me. I should have pulled that up.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: If I'm going to reference it, but it was something
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: along the lines of there was three hundred hitters that
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: had this minia bats against lefties, and he was like,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: he was like twentieth or twenty fifth as far as
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: hard hit rate amongst all of them. I mean with
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: basically like Kyle Tucker, Kerry Carpenter, the guy that we
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: all hate because he's really good, really good and good looking. Yeah,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: like you need things, Yeah exactly. How about you be
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: as big strike out guy if you're gonna look.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, come on, man, look at my smile. It's
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: really great.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just hit game winners. How's that taste?
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, suck it.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So he's up there with him as far as
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: hard hit rate and whatnot, at least against left handed pitching.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of one of those you have check
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: a box. I mean, it's at a minimum, I think
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: it raises the bar of your bench, ok, right, Like
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: which matters over the course of one hundred and sixty
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: two games. You're gonna need to give Josh Naylor a breather.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: At some point in time. He can fill in there,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: He could play some second, He can play anywhere in
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: the outfield. I think He's probably a guy that you
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: could put just about anywhere. Not shortstop, obviously, not catcher,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: but I think you could put him just about anywhere.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: He's going to not be great there, but he's going
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: to do the job when he gets up to bat.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: So he's not gonna be like an everyday guy.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be in every day.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Okay, So he's just gonna be the person that they're
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: kind of putting in to give people rest or fill
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: a hole if somebody knock on it gets hurt.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I think he'll be your left handed I think he
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I think he'll be your DH going into spring training.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Right now, I think he's your DH. You pencil in
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: every time there's a lefty start, okay, and then he's
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: coming off the bench against a lefty reliever if he
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: isn't in the game, because he's that good. So your best.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: The best thing he's bringing to the table is his
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: offense against lefties.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: So it to me then brings up the idea of okay, well,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: then whose our DH against right handed pa?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, do we have to we have to have one
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: for both sides of the players.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Well that or I mean his splits are significantly different.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I had them pulled up his his against right handers,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: he's hitting two twenty nine. This is over the course
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: of you know, his entire career, which is it's been
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a decent career, but it's still limited amount of bats.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Eight hundred bats or so. He's got a two twenty
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: nine batting average against the righty's versus a two eighty
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: one against lefties. Okay, significantly more power production, everything that
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: he brings to the table. He's really good against lefties
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and not so much. And so to me, the first
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: name that popped into my.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Head, rights against righties you're talking about.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, against righty's, was Carlos Santana. Yes, I mean older.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: We like what he brings to the clubhouse. We know
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: he fits in there.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: We know they love him.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: He's still he still keeps like fighting father time. Like
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: everybody's like, well he's old, we can't.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: And then every year you see him at least have
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: a couple of highlights on Sports Center doing something.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Yeap. So I mean that's a way where this is
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: just a one year deal. By the way, the Mariners
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: sign Rob Refschneider for one year, six and a quarter
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: mill I mean, you go out there, maybe get I
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: don't know how much. Carlos Santana would be eight million
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: bucks or something like that. So you're paying fourteen million
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: bucks for a dh Okay, you get two of them,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: two for the price of.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Two for the price one. We put them up there
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: at the same time.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think that's against the rules. Okay,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: it's not a bad idea. I wouldn't want to go
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: up there. That would really suck it fouls one off.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: You're both swinging. Oh no, web gb Yeah, it makes
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: you shake, you know, isn't that? Isn't that what you
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: call those hebgb's usually Oh, heb gbs.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: I've never heard.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know Hermiston we say the web gbs. Maybe
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: we don't. I think he be GB's is right. I
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: just called it the web GB's, all right. Well, I
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: don't want to give anybody else the web gbs because
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I just got them and it made me. It made me,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: It gave me goosebumps, all right, way, No, not in
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: a good way at all. Well, we got to witness, uh,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the old Man Rivers experiment again last night, and I
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: saw some folks out there tweeted us saying, well, now
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I feel a lot better about our defense after watching
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: him dice that up. I got. I got a couple
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: of questions to ask Ashley about father time and old
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: man rivers if he could beat it stick around here
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  Speaker 2: Look called long lead feed broken up.
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  Speaker 1: Tobenen got what ahead everly with.
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  Speaker 7: The empty Nati Scars sword and every whipboards delivers a
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  Speaker 7: big blow and it could be the final one thirty
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: five seconds left in regulation as every breaking the time
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  Speaker 7: we're back to back goals and the crack and take
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: a three to one lead.
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• 30:50
  Speaker 1: A good game, good game. They won. Can't wait to
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: talk to FITZI and find out what that means if
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: that's if that means we're off the schneid. We're ready
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: to rock and roll. Really, a couple of goals there,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: an empty netter like that, a couple of injuries to
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: speak of. I'm sure, I Fitz, you'll have all the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: information that we need. We will get to that right now.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: We're going to get to some highlights besides the crack
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and win. They won three to one last night over
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: the Ducks. I don't mind saying the Ducks lose and
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: that when it comes to hockey.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I don't mind it either.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: That's that's it. That's it. No, that's that's the only
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: time I don't I don't like it. I did notice.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I listened to the MJ Show on the way home
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: yesterday because you were on, and you guys, that's one thing.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: You guys are right, two peas in a pod.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: When it comes to hating the Ducks, Apparently he hates
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: them just as much as I did, which is weird
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: because I did not think that, and I don't mean
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: it weird in a bad way. I just would be
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: surprised that people from the East Coast have the disdain
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: for the Ducks that he knows.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I think he just knows that people around here a
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: lot of them hate the Ducks. Maybe, so he's like,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I think I'll hate them too.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's a smart move if you want people to
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: like you.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not and it's not working. But anyways, anyways,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: we don't need to go there. We do other headlines.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: DK get suspended for the rest of the regular season
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: for kind of punching, trying to punch, somewhat punching, basically
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: having poor interaction with a fan, whether it's whether the
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: person said something or not. You can't do that, and
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the league came down on him with basically suspended him
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: in the last two games of the regular season. But
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: they're in the middle of a playoff race to win
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: their division. And the big kicker is that that kicks
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: in some detrimental conduct clause that basically does it makes
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: forty five million of his contract that was guaranteed no
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: longer guaranteed. So we will see if that comes back
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: to haunt him. I kind of hope it doesn't, but
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: at the same time, I hope that at least the
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: fear of it makes him pull his head out of
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: his button. Understand, there's just certain things you can and
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: can't do when you're a professional athlete. So we shall see. Basically,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: not yesterday, but I think the day before the Minnetaka
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Muracawi Murkami signed with the White Sox two years, not
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: coming no White Sox. I don't understand it really, to
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: be honest, because it's such a friendly deal compared to
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: what he was asking for or what he was expected
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: to make. I mean, he was talked about it's like
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: forty million dollars a year. Guy, he signed for two
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: years for seventeen million bucks.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, that a disappointment for him, I'm sure.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, disappointment for him, kind of disappointing for Mariner
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: fans that I mean, I know Chuck's gonna have something
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: to say about it when he's back on Friday, I'm sure,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: because that just seems like a really really good deal. Now,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: you could get him for two years a White Sox's
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: get him for his two years while he gets his
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: feet wet and figures out what big league pitching's all about,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and then he's gonna hit the free agent market and
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: be able to kind of do whatever. He's gonna get
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: whatever he earns. Basically in that on the heels of
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: that deal, to some degree, the Mariner's justually signed Rob
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Refschneider to a one year deal six and a quarter
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: million dollars. Basically, he's going to be your DH against
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: left handed pitching, and he can kind of fill in
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: to give other guy's days off. He can play outfield,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: and he can play second a little bit. And he's
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: not good anywhere defensively, like really good anywhere, but he
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: can he can rake against lefty, so that will be
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: a It's a nice piece. It's a piece. It's not
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: a big piece, but it's a piece. So yeah, we'll
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: go ahead and take that. But now it's time where
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: we get to talk to the one and only g Ragbell.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: With a bell tolls.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: It must be seven o'clock and time for twelfth Man
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: News with Greg Bell. Brought to you by Copola Diamond
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• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Now with twelfth Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: and Bud.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Greg. Good morning, how are you, sir?
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: Good morning Mary, Early Christmas.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: To all of you. Christmas to you as well. Have
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: you did you make your bed bounce quarter off this morning?
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I have yes, do you really? Do you really make it?
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Do you make it good enough like that?
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Or no?
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: No, not anymore?
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: But you still make it.
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: But yeah, let's throw the sheets back over it. I
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: wouldn't say it out a quarter.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Of that's all right, that's better than what most do.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: And I think that's a really good way to start
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: your day, is making your bed. I think that that's
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: something that a lot of people should do. I had
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: to do it as a child, and then I stopped
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: doing it as an adult, and now as an older person,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I do that again. Go ahead and throw the.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Sheets to make my husband's stole in it when I leave.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just throw the sheet. Actually, half the time
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I don't even do that, but my wife ends up
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: doing it so my bed is made. But yeah, I
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: still try to do it just a little bit, a
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: little bit up. Keep you right, you got to you
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: got to raise your kids to take care of their stuff. Anyway, Well, yeah,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: you're right. Merry Christmas, Early Christmas. This is our last
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: show before we get a couple of days off. And
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: and you don't necessarily get those days off.
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: I don't, but.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I guess that's good for everybody else because everybody's concerned
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: or turned on excited about the Seahawks. So coming into
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: this where you get a little bit of a mini buy,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: what'd you learn yesterday when they got back to work, Well, they.
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: Just went back to meetings. They didn't actually practice, and
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: because it's a Sunday game, they don't have to have
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: an injury report, and they didn't have any media access
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: for us, so we weren't out there. So it was
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: a pretty quiet day Seahawks considering. The biggest development was
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: the forty nine ers keep winning one last night over
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: the philip Rivers is so that's status quo the NFC West,
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: as great as the winner of the Rams was for
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: the Seahawks and how they did it. As Mike McDonald
• 36:43
  Speaker 8: gathered the team around him in the locker room after
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: the game Thursday night, he said, we've got more work
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: to do, and he's right. If they lose Sunday to
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: a Carolina team that's playing for the NFC West titled
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: NFC South title, excuse me, and just beat Tampa Bay
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: at home. If Carolina was game, the Seahawks are right
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: back to where they were before the Rams game, because
• 37:04
  Speaker 8: the Rams hold the tiebreakers and the forty nine Ers
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: hold the tie breakers in a three team tie in
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: the NFC West. It's the forty nine Ers have made
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: it so that the Seahawks can't coast, and they weren't
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: going to coast anyway, most likely under Mike McDonald, but
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: they can ill afford to lose. If the simplest way
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: to put it is that the Seahawks win these last
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: two games, they are the number one seed in the NFC,
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: they win the division for the first time since twenty twenty,
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: they get to buy and they get two potentially two
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: home playoff games to the Super Bowl. If they lose now,
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: because the forty Nineers keep winning, there's a possibility that
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: they could fall from the one seed to the sixth
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: seed in the second wild card, the next to last
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: seed in the NFC, and that's what the forty nine Ers, Rams,
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: and Seahawks are jockeying for the last two weeks. San
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: Francisco gets Chicago on Sunday night, while the Seahawks will
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: have already played Carolina and the Rams had the easiest
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: rode home with anybody. They play Arizona and Atlanta. They're
• 38:05
  Speaker 8: at Atlanta Monday night, and they host the Cardinals six
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: and nine team and A three and eleven, three and
• 38:10
  Speaker 8: thirteen teams.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: So it's suffice to say the Seahawks have.
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: To keep winning to get what they want, which is
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: a shorter direct home bound route to the super Bowl,
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: and that San Francisco games both teams win this weekend
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: forty nine ers in Seahawks, that San Francisco Seattle game
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: in Santa Clara Week eight, team will be for everything
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: for the number one seed for the NFC West. It
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: probably will be on Sunday Night Football in NBC to
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: end the NFL regular season.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Greg I wondered this after the Seahawks Colts game, if
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: there was any chance that even su you know, subconsciously,
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: the Hawks were possibly looking past the Colts because they'd
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: had that Rams game circled on their calendar since the
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: top first time they'd met up. I have to believe
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: they really want that first game against the forty nine
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: ers back if they could take it. Is there any
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: possibility I would assume not because of everything that's on
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: the line, But is there any possibility that this team
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: comes out flat because they're kind of looking past the
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: Panthers this weekend.
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: Well, I could see them starting slowly, Ashley, because of
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: the layoffs and the something kind of letdown from what
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: happened last week and the Christmas holiday, in the fact
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: they're not going to practice Thursday, they're practicing today, they're
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: practicing tomorrow, they're not practicing Thursday, They're practicing Friday and
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: traveling Friday. So it's an odd week in that regard.
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: It would not surprise me if then fly all the
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: way all the way to Charlotte and play at ten
• 39:33
  Speaker 8: am Pacific time start and look ragged to begin, and
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: I've won't surprised. They've done it many times without these
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: factors and going on, and it will not surprise me
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: if fans are throwing things at their TV set in
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: the first half of the game in Carolina. It wouldn't
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: surprise me if they're trailing or tied or in a
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: six to sixth tie like they were with I can't
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: remember the games anymore. It was six' six against somebody
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: going into The atlanta they excuse, me it was six
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: six at. Halftime it was zero zero in the second
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: quarter Against. Minnesota it would not surprise me if the
• 40:07
  Speaker 8: current number one seed in THE nfc has trouble getting
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: going Against, carolina but The panthers have gotten their attention
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: by what they've done recently and the fact that they
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: beat A Tampa bay team In charlotte last, weekend The
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: Tampa bay team that came out here and Beat. Seattle
• 40:23
  Speaker 8: So mike McDonald is so focused on the process over the.
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: Results his whole mantra to these guys, is let's keep
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: the process. Straight let's perfect our process so that the
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: results take care of. Themselves that comes in handy in
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: weeks like. This he's changed the process a little. Bit
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: he's given them all the weekend off, day Had, Friday
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: saturday And sunday off before they came back. Yesterday they're
• 40:45
  Speaker 8: going to Have thursday. Off the process is, changing but
• 40:48
  Speaker 8: in terms of the actual mechanics of the. Practicing but
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: the focus on doing themselves right and doing their way
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: right should come in handy when the game gets going On.
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: Sunday BUT i bet it's.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Going to be a. Struggle, yeah makes. SENSE i mean
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: they are human after. ALL i, mean, Right Derek hall
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: ends up he appealed that suspension for stepping on a
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: guy's leg that was upheld and so he'll be. Out
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: how big of a deal is, THAT i, MEAN i
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: know he's mixes, in, RIGHT i mean he's he mixes
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: in and he plays significant amount of. Time how big
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: of a loss is? That and who steps up in his?
• 41:21
  Speaker 8: Place, well it's not as big a factor because they
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: have a guy Named nicki Min orriy. Now and really
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: you could say if nick if the C r slews
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: an outside, linebacker a middle, linebacker a, safety a nickel
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: corner or even at times a defensive end Pluged nicki
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: Mon orry in the so of that. Role so they
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: have such a depth now With wooln playing well of
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: extra defensive backs that they can and often, do pull
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: one of their linebackers off the. Field, anyway part of
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: the Reason Derek college is one sack this year is
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: because of. That he's getting fewer pass rush opportunities because
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: they're using All Demon worry And Woolen witherspoon and the
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: Front ford has been as good as it's, Been SO
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: i hate to say For Derek, hall but not as
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: big a deal the way The seahawks are playing defense
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: and how effective they are with the strength of their
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: team being in the.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Secondary, Yeah, Okay, Well i'm with you on, that and
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: so that's good news because yesterday had said that nickimn
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: worry even after he bunked his, head he probably could
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: have came back in had they, needed had they not
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: went down there and touched down two point conversion and
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: walked it. Off but that, SAID i, mean the speculation
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: is That Kobe bryant could miss some, time and so
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: now you can't plug him into both those. PLACES i
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: don't think he can play well linebacker and strong safety
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: at the same. Time maybe maybe he's that, Talented BUT i,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: mean are we looking at something because of the injuries
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: slash now suspensions where you might be getting Thin.
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: Well, SURE i mean if you are down multiple, starters
• 42:56
  Speaker 8: everyone feels. That and The seahawks lost The Tampa bay
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: down four starters and the defense got shredded for thirty eight.
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: Points so, yeah it has, effect but there. Isn't we'll
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: know more in the next couple of days About Kobe bryant's.
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: Knee Rieke woolands seems okay with his knee. Issue he
• 43:14
  Speaker 8: left the game too at the end of the of
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: My pritchett was playing an extra. Corner sometimes at the
• 43:18
  Speaker 8: end of the game against The. Rams bryan's a big,
• 43:21
  Speaker 8: deal a bigger, DEAL i would say Than Derek. Hall
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: Kobe bryant is a mainstay now in the back of the.
• 43:28
  Speaker 8: Defense he's a very sure. Tackler he's been around the
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: ball off and getting more turnovers than he did in
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: his first couple of. Years McDonald loves. Him he's assignment.
• 43:38
  Speaker 8: Sound he held the four down in the back When
• 43:41
  Speaker 8: Julian love missed about a month and a half or
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: actually more nine. Games he did what nine of the
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: first twelve And Tyle katta had to play. Safety that
• 43:49
  Speaker 8: the rock through all that Was Kobe, bryant and that's
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: a bigger. Deal and he's an every down tackle against the,
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: run cover, guy tackler three yards to, catch stopping Those
• 44:02
  Speaker 8: he's a big piece to what they do in the back,
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: end and that to me is the biggest of the
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: injury concerns they have at the.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Moment, GREG i got to ask you a, question The
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Pro bowl votes Or Pro bowl.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: TEAM i guess this has come out this morning, already
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: and we've got a lot of people on the. Team
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: they've GOT. Jsn it looks Like Devin witherspoon made. It
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: Sam Darnold DeMarcus, Lawrence Leonard williams and Then Rashid shaheed as.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: Well does that just kind of show that, maybe you,
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: KNOW i think nationally The seahawks are just getting a
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: little bit more attention than they than they were expected
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: to get at the beginning of this, year and that
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: as quiet as it kind of has, been it's really
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: now more of a ground.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Swell, well, yeah.
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: Absolutely and the win the other night's another example that
• 44:51
  Speaker 8: on national. Television but, sure and they had a convincing
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: win on national television Against. Washington on The East, coast
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: there were a bunch Of East coast AND fi writers
• 45:01
  Speaker 8: and personalities that were at that game In washington and
• 45:05
  Speaker 8: saw first hand what they were. Doing and there's still
• 45:08
  Speaker 8: A Southeast alaska reputation to The, seahawks and they're so
• 45:12
  Speaker 8: far out here and they're not always on the big.
• 45:14
  Speaker 8: Stage well they've. Been you, Win you win twelve of
• 45:17
  Speaker 8: your first fifteen, games and this is what comes with.
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: It and there are years that the team isn't twelve
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: and three that a lot of guys that should make
• 45:25
  Speaker 8: The Pro bowl. Don't for those who don't, know it's
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: a combination of fan, voting player voot and coaching voting
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: and the fan voting is at least one third of.
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: It and when the team's not doing well and other
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: fans teams don't see The seahawks ON tv because they're
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: not on national, television don't get flexed to, it don't
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: get primetime. Game that has a cumultive effect of people
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: not knowing about the. Guys tough to Ignore Jackson smith
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: And jigga this, YEAR i would tell you that just
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: off the list you read, ME i don't know How
• 45:55
  Speaker 8: Jason myers doesn't make.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: It.
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: WELL i, was, yeah if they haven't put him out,
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: there SO i don't know if maybe, They BUT i
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: mean If shaheed's, out he was there on special, teams
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: SO i would, YEAH i don't.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Know.
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah Jason myers is close to having, these competing for
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: having the most field goals in a season IN nfl.
• 46:13
  Speaker 8: History he's twenty three of his last twenty, four entering
• 46:16
  Speaker 8: The rams game with the only miss sixty yards against The.
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: Rams at the end of the, game as soon as
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: The seahawks cross, midfield they're starting to get In Jason
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: myers's makeable field goal. Range he to me is as
• 46:29
  Speaker 8: big asset as anything The seahawks Have if they can
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: get three points out of crossing, midfield that's a. PLUS i,
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: mean that's a big. Asset it changes the way teams,
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: defend the changes the way the offense calls. Plays SO
• 46:41
  Speaker 8: i would say he deserves beyond. It but let's be.
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: Real The Pro bowl is at farce and there is
• 46:46
  Speaker 8: No Pro bowl, game and it's just a bunch of flag.
• 46:48
  Speaker 8: Football and the only reason is players can we talk
• 46:51
  Speaker 8: about it is because it has contract implications and all
• 46:54
  Speaker 8: the players have clauses in their deals that if you
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: get A Pro, bowl you get more.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: Money so that's the big deal.
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: Here and there'll be a bunch of guys who opt
• 47:03
  Speaker 8: out and don't want to go down and play flag
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: football for a couple of, days and then other dudes
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: will get put on, it And Jason myers might get
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: on it for, that and then he becomes A Pro
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: bowl and gets his. Contracts in the, end, however Many
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: Pro bowl slots there are thirty plus four team it
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: ends up being one hundred guys getting contract bonuses out
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: Of Pro bowl selections because of people who get put
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: in his alternates and.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Whatnot but the.
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: Recognition in the, LEAGUE i will say, This the recognition
• 47:32
  Speaker 8: in the league has because of how The Pro bowl
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: is so just a farce, now The All pro is
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: the designation that gets, everything all the, Attention it gets
• 47:41
  Speaker 8: the most, money contract, time negotiation, time free agency. Time
• 47:46
  Speaker 8: And i'm talking first Team All. PRO a lot of
• 47:47
  Speaker 8: people throw around second Team All. Pro there there's no
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: such thing as second Team All. Pro you're either a
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: first Team All, pro you're not An All. Pro and
• 47:55
  Speaker 8: it's The All pro designation that separates, guys and it's
• 47:58
  Speaker 8: The All pro designations that lead To hall Of fame
• 48:01
  Speaker 8: consideration the best of the. Best The Pro bowl has
• 48:06
  Speaker 8: kind of been, LIKE i don't, know the participational orange
• 48:09
  Speaker 8: slices OF nfl football. Lately the actual crux of awards
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: and elite is The All pro, voting and that'll come
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: in season after the.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Season at all, Right Gea ashley AND i are going
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: to do this exercise a little bit. Later we just
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: kind of confidence level in earning that number one, seed
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: getting the buy home field. THROUGHOUT i, mean you've already
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: kind of discussed. It the Idea seahawks Have panthers and Then,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Niners rams have The falcons this weekend and then The
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: cardinals probably the easiest path to to And ozero and
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers have The bears this weekend and
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: then the pivotal game against The hawks to finish it.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: UP i, mean how confident would you be if you
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: were not a writer but just a fan of The
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: seahawks that they're going to be able to get this
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: thing done and hold?
• 48:55
  Speaker 8: Serve If i'm A seahawks, Fan i'm worried as. Hell
• 48:58
  Speaker 8: it's about the forty nine ers. Game they've bought seven
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: of eight to them every time they played the forty nine,
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: ers and they allowed them a half dozen. Years they've
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: been absolutely butt kicked on the offensive and defensive. LINES i,
• 49:11
  Speaker 8: mean the line of scrimmage is they've been just run.
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: Over if you just sit back and watch the line
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: of scrimmage And seahawk forty nine, ers including the opener this,
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: season the forty nine ers have absolutely had their.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Way that has.
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  Speaker 8: Changed And i've said this a thousand. Times the reason
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: they Hired mike McDonald is to beat The rams and
• 49:31
  Speaker 8: the forty nine. Ers they finally beat The rams after
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: losing to him last. Month they haven't beaten the forty
• 49:37
  Speaker 8: nine ers, yet not when it, counts including in the
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: playoffs a few years ago With Gino smith as their.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: Quarterback it's WHAT.
• 49:45
  Speaker 8: I wrote this morning in The News. Tribune they're not.
• 49:47
  Speaker 8: Done as great as that win, was they are not
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: done because if they don't beat the forty nine, ers
• 49:52
  Speaker 8: they're a six, seed and it's a tough, road and
• 49:54
  Speaker 8: they can win all the games on the, road and
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: they can beat the three teams they'll probably have to,
• 49:58
  Speaker 8: face but the last team you'll have to beat to
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: get the Super bowl will be on the road At
• 50:02
  Speaker 8: San francisco Or Los. Angeles most likely THE Nfc west
• 50:05
  Speaker 8: winner is most likely going to be the number one.
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: Seed so The seahawks are going to play these guys.
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: Again they're gonna play The rams again most likely if
• 50:13
  Speaker 8: they keep winning to the, end AS i, said probably
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: the conference title. Game they have not yet proven to
• 50:20
  Speaker 8: themselves that they can beat the forty nine. Ers and
• 50:22
  Speaker 8: as many injuries As San francisco has, had Including Fred
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: warner And Nick bosa and defense Now nick or excuse,
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: me brock perty is back from his. Time Miss christian
• 50:33
  Speaker 8: McCaffrey hasn't, run and then they can't pass the way
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: they have. Now christian McCaffrey suddenly has all kinds of
• 50:39
  Speaker 8: all purpose. Yards that is a big problem For seattle
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: and it is A i'd be worried if not The
• 50:47
  Speaker 8: seahawks man.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: That for all they've.
• 50:49
  Speaker 8: Accomplished thus, far they have to still go Into Santa
• 50:52
  Speaker 8: clair next week and. Win, now The bears can do
• 50:54
  Speaker 8: The seahawks a, big big favor if The bears can
• 50:57
  Speaker 8: pull it off And Levi Jeans stadium on Some but
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: until proven, Otherwise, bucky they haven't won the division yet
• 51:04
  Speaker 8: until they beat both The rams and forty nine ers
• 51:06
  Speaker 8: and that last lot of jobs till they have to
• 51:09
  Speaker 8: do all.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Right, well suffice it to, say not overly confident about,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: that Then, okay that makes. Sense i'm probably right there with,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: you all, Right, Greg, well appreciate, it, Man appreciate it
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: what you do and showing up for us and giving
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  Speaker 1: us the info you do every single. Week go out,
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  Speaker 1: there have a Good christmas and enjoy your. Family thank, you.
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  Speaker 1: the other side of this, break we're going to get
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  Speaker 1: to dive a little bit deeper into The. Panthers we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get to talk To Mike Kay he's a writer
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  Speaker 1: out there for The Charlotte. Observer we're going to find
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: out exactly what The seahawks have in store coming up this.
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  Speaker 1: KGr ninety three point. Three K jar's a writer for
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: The Charlotte observer down obviously covering The Carolina. Panthers first of, All,
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  Speaker 1: mike nice to have you with. Us good morning and
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: have Merry.
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  Speaker 9: Christmas, yeah good, Morning Mary christmas six for having.
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  Speaker 1: Me, guys do you want to just break the tie?
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Here was That Huey lewis or? NOT i say that
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  Speaker 1: pretty much every song Is Huey lewis BECAUSE i don't
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  Speaker 1: know who writes. Anything, ashley on the other, hand is very?
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  Speaker 1: Knowledgeable AM i? Right or is she? Right H i got?
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  Speaker 9: NOTHING i got, Nothing, okay me to write about, football,
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  Speaker 9: unfortunately that's ALL i.
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  Speaker 1: Do all, Right well that's. Fine there you.
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  Speaker 2: Go so, Now, bucky you can think you're.
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  Speaker 4: RIGHT i.
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  Speaker 1: Can, YEAH i can stick with me being. Right that
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  Speaker 1: that's Definitely Huey. Lewis, Anyways, ANYWAYS i will get onto
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: the stuff the task at hand, Here. Mike The Carolina
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: panthers right now are playing good. Football obviously have a
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: lot to play. FOR i don't know for. Sure is
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: this something that you're surprised by? It to, me it
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: feels Like Bryce young is coming into his OWN a
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: lot of people had written him, off maybe after a
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: couple of subpar years to start his. Career is this
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: something that you expected to see right? Now them playing,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: good meaningful football this late in the. Season, WELL i think.
• 53:21
  Speaker 8: They're they're overachieving a little.
• 53:23
  Speaker 9: Bit their trajectory was always going to be twenty twenty,
• 53:26
  Speaker 9: six with the year that they felt like they could
• 53:28
  Speaker 9: make a legitimate playoff. Run BUT i think they've capitalized
• 53:32
  Speaker 9: on big wins over The packers and The rams and
• 53:35
  Speaker 9: then won their fair share of division. Games has put
• 53:38
  Speaker 9: them in position to being contention down the. Road you,
• 53:41
  Speaker 9: know this team hasn't been to the playoffs since twenty.
• 53:44
  Speaker 9: Seventeen they haven't won of division since twenty. Fifteen up
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: until yes or up Until, sunday they had lost ten
• 53:50
  Speaker 9: or nine of ten games to The, Buccaneers and so
• 53:54
  Speaker 9: this has kind of been the dragon they've been trying
• 53:56
  Speaker 9: to slay for quite some. Time AND i think there's
• 53:59
  Speaker 9: a lot of optimism Around charlotte right now because of
• 54:02
  Speaker 9: the when they just got this.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: Weekend is there a lot of optimism Around Bryce young
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: being the right choice for their future.
• 54:09
  Speaker 9: QUARTERBACK i think it's more of the right choice for right.
• 54:12
  Speaker 9: NOW i think they're definitely going to pick up his
• 54:14
  Speaker 9: fifth year. Option but the thing is that they don't
• 54:17
  Speaker 9: have to rush to pay. HIM i, mean when you
• 54:19
  Speaker 9: look at his fifth year, option it's about half of
• 54:21
  Speaker 9: What Rock purty is making per. Year so if you
• 54:24
  Speaker 9: told me you can get the production that he is
• 54:25
  Speaker 9: putting up right now in a year from now at
• 54:30
  Speaker 9: the rate of half Of Rock, PURTY i would tell
• 54:32
  Speaker 9: you that makes a really smart business. Sense that, said
• 54:36
  Speaker 9: he has been very up and down throughout his. Career
• 54:39
  Speaker 9: his shortcomings have been well, documented well, documented but over
• 54:43
  Speaker 9: the last five, games he's put up ten, touchdowns two,
• 54:47
  Speaker 9: Interceptions it's completing sixty six percent of his passes well
• 54:51
  Speaker 9: over one thousand. Yards he looks like the guy they
• 54:54
  Speaker 9: drafted in twenty twenty. Three he just has to keep it,
• 54:59
  Speaker 9: consistent which has been largely the main problem for him
• 55:03
  Speaker 9: over the last three.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Years, mike what is the calling?
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: Card if you?
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Will what is This panthers? TEAM i, mean, yeah you
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: got a young quarterback that's to some degree growing and
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: and and showing signs that he can lead the. Squad
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: yet you have a Regal dawdo has been a good pick.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: UP i, mean he's doing his. Thing you Got ted,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: McMillan that's you, know he's he's kind of your go to,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: guy even though you got a couple other guys that
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: have stepped up as far as your receiving corps. Goes
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: and then defensively, ADEQUATE i, mean what is the what around?
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Here it's it's In, Seattle it's the. Defense it's back
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: to the defense kind of leading the, charge and then the,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: offense while maybe not, consistent can be quite explosive at.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: TIMES i, mean what is the calling card or the
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: mo on this Year's panther.
• 55:46
  Speaker 9: Squad this team wants us to run the. Past they're
• 55:52
  Speaker 9: going to try to run the ball very early and
• 55:56
  Speaker 9: try to set up vertical downfield. Pros on, defense they're
• 56:00
  Speaker 9: pretty good in. Coverage they're not really going to get
• 56:03
  Speaker 9: a boatload of, sacks but if they can stop the
• 56:07
  Speaker 9: run early and force you to pass a, lot they
• 56:09
  Speaker 9: will get to the. Quarterback AND i think they're a
• 56:13
  Speaker 9: team that plays extremely. Hard to The seahawks former assistant
• 56:18
  Speaker 9: coach And Dave, canalis he has established a great culture
• 56:22
  Speaker 9: here and guys want to play for him and play
• 56:25
  Speaker 9: hard tild the.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: Whistle what do you think? That what do you?
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: THINK i Guess seahawks fans or The seahawks, themselves we need,
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: to you, know focus on need to be maybe worried
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: about as far as playing The, panthers Because i've, watched you,
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: know just looking at each game each, week there's a
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: lot there's, inconsistencies, right and So I'M i can't quite
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: figure this team.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: Out you and, me both.
• 56:48
  Speaker 9: My week two week picks have not been. Great they
• 56:51
  Speaker 9: are a team that one week will have like an
• 56:53
  Speaker 9: insane triumph and in the next week have like massive disaster.
• 56:59
  Speaker 9: Right if they go by their recent, pattern the game
• 57:03
  Speaker 9: against The seahawks will be really. Tough i'm interested to
• 57:06
  Speaker 9: see What Devin witherspoon's got For tetaroe McMillan And Jalen.
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: Coker you, know JS n is going to be a
• 57:16
  Speaker 9: tough go For Mike jackson and J. C. Horn BUT
• 57:21
  Speaker 9: i think He shaheed has a history of burning this
• 57:24
  Speaker 9: team deep from when he was With New, orleans and
• 57:27
  Speaker 9: that's going to be a. PROBLEM i think from from
• 57:30
  Speaker 9: the same point of The, Seahawks Sam darnold can't be
• 57:34
  Speaker 9: a gunslinger. Here Mike jackson and J. C horn have
• 57:39
  Speaker 9: eight interceptions between the two of, them that is tied
• 57:42
  Speaker 9: for the. Most they're the second most among eb's in the.
• 57:46
  Speaker 9: League if you put the ball in the air and
• 57:49
  Speaker 9: in the right, spot J. C horn will pick off the.
• 57:52
  Speaker 9: Ball Mike jackson has shown a really good ability to
• 57:55
  Speaker 9: return after making. Interceptions lake And ransom their Rookie state
• 58:00
  Speaker 9: had a pick to end the game last, week so
• 58:03
  Speaker 9: they're able to produce turnovers AND i think that's something
• 58:06
  Speaker 9: you have to always watch out for With Sam garnold
• 58:08
  Speaker 9: in my experience discovering, him but as well as just his.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: General M, Yeah i'm with you on. THAT i, mean
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: it does feel like maybe pass rush, wise it's not,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: crazy BUT i don't think the numbers always tell the whole.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Truth you can be getting to getting two quarterbacks or
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: disrupting them and forcing them to throw balls up where they,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: shouldn't and if your secondary's picking it, off it's just
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: as good as having a. Sack and So i'm with
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: you on. THAT i just did notice the inconsistency part of.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: IT i, MEAN i was mentioning that, yesterday how a
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: team that's doing as well as they are and yet
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: they got swept By New orleans this. Year that makes you, think,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: wow over. Confident maybe we should be going into this.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Thing and yet on the flip side of, it you've
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: beaten you, Know Green bay and The rams and you,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: know just a big one Against Tampa. Bay it's. Different
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: it's hard to tell who it, is and yet we
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: will find out Comes. SUNDAY i appreciate you coming on, On,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: mike AND i want you to have a very Merry.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Christmas all, right, man thanks you.
• 59:05
  Speaker 8: TOO i agree with.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Guys all, right That's Mike kay with The Charlotte observer.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Again he covers The panthers and gives us a little
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: bit of insight as to what we have to look
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: forward to on the other side of the. Break i'm
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: gonna find out What ashley has to look forward to
• 59:17
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  Speaker 1: Ah, well this is the, time and unfortunately or fortunately for,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: us we get this in Before christmas starts around. Here
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: so happy happy holidays And Merry. Christmas, jeane how you
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: doing In Happy?
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: Holidays? Bucky i'm doing pretty.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: Well, guys how are you? Doing i'm doing, Great, ASHLEY
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: i think is doing. Well we got a downhill stretch
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: here on This, tuesday and then we get the next
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: couple of days, off so pretty excited about. That i'm
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: real quick before we get into any of the, stuff
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: the stuff that we actually bring you on FOR i
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: did see on Your twitter page a Little kermit The
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: frog maybe looking in a. Mirror is this? Cryptic are?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: You are you pulling an old Man? Rivers are you
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: coming out of? Retirement is that What i'm reading? Into you?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: Know we had the four to twenty five game with
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: The steelers and The, lions And i'm Watching Aaron rodgers
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: and reminiscing a little to those, days and then getting
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: home last night with my lovely wife watching and explaining to,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: her you know that he's really not that, old you,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: Know and she was kind of agreeing with, me which
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: was really. Awesome AND i talked with my funnel hands
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: of social media portion of my business and we had
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: a nice talk and he, GOES i Think i've got
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: the right one to send out. Tonight so it was
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: really more of a, Joke. Bucky but you, know you never.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: KNOW i never.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: Know you never say, never.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: RIGHT i think you could pull it. OFF i think you.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: COULD i don't know if you want. To it's probably
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: nice sitting right about this time of, year sitting up
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: in a, booth you, know just having every one so a,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: while Like, geane what do you? Think and you can
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: just basically throw your buddies under the, bus or you
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: can you can enlighten us to something or you then
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: you just sit back down in your, chair maybe gabrir, hut,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: coco all that kind of. STUFF i think that sounds
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: a lot more. Comfy you've earned. It now you get
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: to ride off into the.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: Sunset you, know if if they create the segue that's
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: like you, know has a heater or something AND i
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: can zoom around without having to, run MAYBE i would consider,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: that you know WHAT i. Mean but at this, POINT
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: i think you're. RIGHT i do like the chair there
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: in the.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: STUDIO i can picture. THAT i, mean maybe it's something
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: like a souped up little, rascal you know WHAT i,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Mean like you, know you don't want to be in
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: the little tiny, thing but you know something that like
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: looks cool and, tough but you just like lean in
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: a direction and it just rolls you over that. Way
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: or maybe like you're hanging from that skycam right but
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: you control and you just like hovering over, everyone like The.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: OVERLORD i felt LIKE i was on.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: A high wire a lot of my. Career, actually you,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: know when you are, Reughing so maybe that is Opplicable,
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  Speaker 4: BUCK i THINK i like.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: That, yeah all, Right, gino what we got to get.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: To we got to get to some of these, topics and,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: obviously you, know we typically will find one or two
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: somewhere along the. Lines in The seahawks, Game, boy we
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: didn't have to look very. Far fourth down two point conversion.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Attempt uh not. That so this wasn't the final one
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: that ended up winning the, game but that one that
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: they end up throwing. It darnald throws it off the helmet,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: basically and then it bounces forward towards the end zone
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: And sharboney goes and picks it. UP i mean typically
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: the angles they showed, us it looked, like, yes it
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: probably was heading. Backwards if you think if he threw
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: it right to the, receiver which was sharbon he was
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: the intended, receiver then it was definitely. BACKWARDS i thought
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: it maybe was he was going to have to reach
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: towards the line of scrimmage or towards the goal line
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: to get that. Ball it wasn't a cut and dry
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: that it was a backwards. Pass did you think they
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: got that? Right how could they end up making that?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Call and then can you explain all of the weird
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: stuff that goes into, it considering there's a whistle blow
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: and how and the heck they come up with. That
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: did they get it?
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: Right? Well, yeah you, know at the end of the,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: day they did get this. Right and remember too that
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: a path AND i Think harry McCaulay did a great
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: job in real. Time those are an easy place to
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: try to break down and explain to the public and
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: a quick fashion HAD i really give him puters for.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: THAT a parallel pass is also considered a backward. Pass
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: so when we get into man that looks just like,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: right you, know dead down the line by, rule that
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: also is a backward. Pass so many layers to.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: This on fourth, down on tries.
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  Speaker 4: Inside of two, minutes if it's a fumble or rule to,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: fumble only the fumbler can. ADVANCE a backward pass is.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: Different so this is a backward, pass so anyone can
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: recover this or advance in front of where the backward passes.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: Initiated that was the one one element to. It the
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: other piece of this really and it's the officiating place
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: where you want to hope that as these technological additions
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: by replay or now can get involved and kind of
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: get it right and how does that affect the officials
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: on the field to reperea play like that in real
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: time in the best way they, can understanding that there
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: may be this other element that could take place after
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: the actual play is. Finalized those are really difficult things
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: to try to learn because these are new innovations that
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: have happened in the last few, years and they've countered
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: everything that, officials most, officials especially old ones like, me
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: that didn't a replay situations like. This it's the ability
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: in those types of plays where your reaction on the,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: field or your bet reaction is if you, think you
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: know that's a forward pass both or whist with Incomplete
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: back in the old, days that's what we, did and
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: our kind of quote on that, was you know, what
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: you've got to sell the call well in these situations
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: quick pass fumble on a. Quarterback is the runner down
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: by contact before the ball comes? Loose is it a
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: forward or backward pass in this. Scenario your gut may
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: tell you that feels a little. Forward but because of
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: what we have in addition to those, things, now you
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: want that whistle to stay out of the, play right
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: because players are coached to play through a whistle because
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: they can't see whether a play is down or. Not
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: they're playing through the. Whistle officials are trained to say
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: that whistles don't necessarily have to kill. Plays if you
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: think it's forward, progress give them another step or, two
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: then blow your. Whistle so there's a weird dynamic in
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: there where where officials don't want to blow the whistle too,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: quick but players are going to play through the. Whistle
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: and this kind of went in the other direction WHERE
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: i think the official reacted a little too quickly with
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: his or her, Whistle and then you have to go
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: into that other little space which is in the immediate
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: continuing action after the play has been ruled. Over if something,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: happens then immediately after that we can put that into the.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: Play even though the whistle blew or they ruled them,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: down or those situations took, Place all of those elements
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: took place at that. Moment And charbonneaud doesn't look like
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: he's diving on the football right like he thinks it's
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: a backward, Passer AND i mean he casually goes over
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: and he kind of picks the ball, up and quite,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: honestly really again in this nerdy referee, world had he
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: picked that football up at the half yard line and
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: walked into the end. Zone that would not have counted
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: because you don't get the advancement. There so the fact
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: that he literally was kind of just in the end
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: zone and the ball just was over the goal line
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: when he possessed. It in the immediate continuing, action after
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: all the reviewing and all of, that they get that
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: football where he possessed, it which happened to be in
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: the end zone in this. Case so, again a lot
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: AND i KNOW i probably was way longer Than Brad
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: allen was explaining it in real. Time is that many
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: layers to that. Play but at the end of the,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: day they got it.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: RIGHT i think the interesting thing That i've been seeing,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: though is not even that The rams fans are mad
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: that they got it right or that it, happened but
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: that the rule exists in the first. Place, like that's
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: What i've been seeing everyone complain about that that rule
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: is even there in the first.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Place, yeah and you're right to see.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: It and again some of this is my age and
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: being an old school. GUY i really enjoyed the fact
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: that we didn't have a lot of replay types of
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: scenarios back then because it was a way more uncomfortable
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: place to, be, where, look if your decision in real
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: time is your, decision and they're going to live with that.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: Decision as uncomfortable as that, was AS i grew in my,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: CAREER i realized that that was kind of WHAT i
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: was addicted, to is being put in that. Situation so
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: when we watch games and we, say, yeah there's a
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: human condition in all of, this but not in these,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: scenarios because now we can go away from the whole
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: action in the game and the human reactions and what
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: was the result of those, decisions and we can bring
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: technology in and reviews in and angles in and change.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: It it does feel a little, different, Right but, look
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: the stakeholders and every level of football and a lot
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: of other, sports basketball as, well know the decisions they've
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: made are that every play that we can get right
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: based on the technological advancements we, have we want to
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: put those in the game. Now because the standard for,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: officiating unfortunately is perfection and anything below that standard in
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: many cases for the general public is kind of like quite.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: Unacceptable so where do you. Go do you allow the
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: officials to be human and miss, things or do we
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: strive for this ultimate, perfection maybe at the expense of
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: the flow of the game or the game. Itself and
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: SO i can understand, it you, know from a lot
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: of different, avenues and you want to get it right
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: right at the end of the day as. Well so that's,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: why and that's above my pay GRADE a AND i
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: leave that up to those those that decide what they
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: want to do with the.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Game you, know, Well, gemie because of, YOU i expect,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: perfection and so if others can't follow a, suit that's on.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Them and you need to come out when.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: You Doubt, Bucky you're going to be dempathetic and. SYMPATHETIC
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: i appreciate.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: You you let me down, perfectly is what it. Did
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: you perfectly let me. Down so, yeah, exactly all, right. Man,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: well in that, game, obviously that goes down to the.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: WIRE i, mean a crazy comeback by The seahawks in
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: order to come back from down. SIX i, mean it's
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: the biggest comeback In seahawks. History multiple things had to
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: go their, way and yet the one we just talked
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: about was towards the end of the. Game there was
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: one early in the game that basically is a four
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: point swing where The rams get a touchdown and it
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: gets called back because of an ineligible man. Downfield the
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: the commentators were thinking that shouldn't necessarily have been the case.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: There did see it look like the defensive alignment just
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: kind of pulled him across like they're bumping in to each,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: other and then he kind of pulled him beyond one?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Yard is That should that have been an elgemblevan? Downfield
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: was it letter the?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: Law?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: Yes but shouldn't have? Been or did they get that
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: one right as? Well you know that this.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: Play's got a little more to. IT i hate to
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: sound Like i'm long winded on some of, these but
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: these plays do have a lot of elements to. Them
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: first and, foremost ineligible. Downfield if you are an interior
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: lineman and eligible by your, position and you go more
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage without engaging
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: directly with a defensive player that's in front of. You
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: you just move more than a yard down the field
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: at the time the ball is released from the quarterback's,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: hand then it's an in eligible player. Downfield with, technology
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: if officials throw a flag on that play, replay then
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: can review that play because there's a flag on the.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: Ground kind of an ineligible downfield penalty hanging and then
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: replay will relook at, it look at that player and, say,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: yes he was more than a yard, down they file
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: for an eligible downfield or, no he wasn't pick it.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: Up so we see that happen a little more with this.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: Penalty and because of RPOs and the way the game has,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: changed there's more of those scenarios happening now in the
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: last few years of the. GAME i think that's why
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: they probably implemented and assist there if they flags on the.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: Ground but then you have that other, element as you,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: said and this is where it becomes a little more.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: Gray if an offensive, lineman let's, say in this, CASE
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: i believe it was a right, guard has a defensive
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: player directly in front of, him and right at the,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: snap he blocks that player and drives him without disengaging
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: four yards down the field and never disengages in the
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: ball leaves the quarterback's, hands it is not an eligible
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: player downfield because he engaged him within a yard and
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: maintained that contact throughout the course of the player until
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: the quarterback released the. Ball this one was really unique
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: because there was, engagement as you, said like That now
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: there's this shedding kind of right of the defensive player
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: THAT i don't know if that's where the subjectivity, comes
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: AND i would assume more than likely from upstairs or
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: in collaboration with officials on the, field that was he
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: at a yard and thrown to two? Yards did they
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: not seek that? Engagement was enough to say that that's
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: the reason why he was Beyond did he disengage after a?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: Chip and the other's a little Shed but then the
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: offensive player took himself another yard down the field under
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: his own. Volition those are again some subjective elements in that. Piece,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: now they came out with that, play but because of
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: these little, windows that's why the talking heads that look
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: at this, SAY i can see this go one, WAY
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: i can see this go the other. Way so THEN i,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: think when we get into those, spaces do we go
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: back now to this other principle we, Have, well, okay
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: we can't really decide definitively one way or the. Other
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: what did they say on the, Field, well they said
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: he was downfield and. Eligible then let's go with the
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: ruling on the. Field so there's a little bit of
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: layer in. There that was a hard play and ONE
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: i think you could debate on either, End so it's
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: kind of difficult for me to say black and, white
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: yes or. No BUT i think that's the process that
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: took place. There it didn't seem like coach mctay AND
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: i think they did do a quick little shot of the,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: coaches which they usually do when there's a controversial play
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: because it's kind of good to see the. Reaction, right
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: it seemed as he kind of accepted it, right or
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: at least as moving to the next one for the.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: Moment he didn't see him AS i rate as you
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: may expect if he thought it was egregiously. Missed but
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of layers to that play as. Well
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: but So.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: Gene one of the games that are the GAME i
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: think that had the wildest ending obviously was That Detroit
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: steelers game and the touchdown that was negated by AN
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: opi and then when the ref came out and he
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: was like rolling on the field as a touchdown but
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: it doesn't.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Count there's a lot of people out there being, like,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: well that WASN'T.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: Opi it looked to me like it was DEFINITELY. OPI i,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: mean he pushed. Off, yes there was some, flopping but
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: get that whole thing.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: RIGHT i thought the LAST opi was a good. CALL
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: i Thought Sam brown did come. OUT i think this
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: at the top of his. Route. LISTEN i think that
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: the safety may have Been Jalen, ramsey IF i recall
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: names correctly in this. Scenario. Right the way THAT i
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: referee WHEN i was a downfield official early in my
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: career was defensive backstone inbellish those types of plays that
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: much in that, situation, Right, like it's Not they're not
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: going to do the soccer flop a second into the
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: play BECAUSE i can't guarantee that IF i try to
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: flop or embellish, this there's going to be a. FLAG
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: i got to make this. Play this is the football.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: Game these are people's seasons happening right. Now so the
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: fact That ramsey did go backward in that fashion that
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: he did at the contact on that that tells me
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: that there was enough displacement there to material effect that
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: defensive safety in any illegal fashion to create enough separation
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: and a quickly time ball to get. It SO i
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: agree with THE opi call there without a. OUT i
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: thought there was forward progress quite, HONESTLY i Thought Saint
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: brown was driven back a little further than you would
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: allow someone to be driven back before he lateraled To
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: goth who then took it into the end. Zone so
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: there was a lot of layers. There, now, look if
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: they called forward progress On Saint brown after the, catch
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: the irony of that play would have been That Carl
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: scheffers would have then had to, announce because this was fourth,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: down that their ruling on the field would have been
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: That Saint brown did not make the end zone and
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: progress was called and they would have declined the offensive
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: pass interference then because the result of the play would
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: have been a turnover on downs, Right so then you
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: would have had to put two seconds back on the
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: clock or three The steelers would have had to take
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: a knee and the game would have ended that. Way
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: but because they ruled that that wasn't progress in the
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: end of the play Was gough diving into the end
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: zone when the clock was at. Zero, now going to
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: use the offensive foul in that scenario when time expires
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: in a game and there is a foul by the,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: offense accepting that penalty basically ends the. Game And chef
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: kind of did do what we used to call back
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: in the, day slamming the, audience, Right like IF i
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: had a few of those where you roll touchdown on the,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: field then you come back and realize he fumbled the
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: ball at the half yard, line there wasn't a clear
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: recovery in the end. Zone the home team thinks it's you,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: know it is a, touchdown and you say after, review
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: you know the ruling on the field is or the
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: ruling on the field is. Touchdown the crowd, cheers and
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: then you bring in the dreaded word however and, say
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: but because of, this, this and, this it isn't a,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: touchdown which is kind of what chef did. There so
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: that'll be a, Discussion i'm sure with the leg, on
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: let's make sure we wear these things right so we
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: don't take people to one level of the motion and
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: then bring them way way down to another level of
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: emotion in a scenario like. That but, yeah, yeah there
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: were a lot of crazy plays this LAST weeknd for.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: Sure that's.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Funny you guys actually have the slam the crowd that
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: there was an actual term for. It, yeah that was
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: that was a crowd crowdlam fifteen years.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: Ago Buy, yeah it was update.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Myself, Yeah, Yeah i'm with you, THOUGH i think that
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: they got that right either way that they called. IT i,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: mean he catches the ball at the one and ends
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: up lateraling it at like the six or. SEVEN i was.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: SURPRISED i mean that The, steelers as he lateraled, it
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: were already celebrating that they had stopped him and won
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: the game Before goff even grabbed it and dove. In
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: So i'm with, YOU i think they got that right real, Quick,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: gino or as quick as you want to. BE i
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: don't really care about the time clock Because i'm filling in,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: here so what are they going to?
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 8: Do?
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: Uh but it just THAT dk metcalf. SITUATION i don't
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: think there's anything as an official that you're responsible for.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: There there was no, flag so you can't kick him
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: out of the.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 7: Game.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Uh but just overarching thoughts on that, SITUATION i feel
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: like fans are more in boldened now than they ever
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: have been of saying. Things and yet my personal stance
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: as a former professional athlete is you just got to
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: kind of wear, it you, know it's kind of part
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: of the. Gig you don't get to swing on people
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: regardless of what they say to.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: You i'm with, you, MAN i, mean look AT i
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: was Arrest, Okay SO i never really lived in that
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: world except when we came back after the negotiations and
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: people actually did care about the officials for that window
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: of time when we were locked, out and then came
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: back and appreciated. US i have lived a lot of
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: my career in those stages where there were tons of
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: things that you would hope you'd never have to, hear
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: and quite, honestly you never think people would say to
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: you that you just had to leave. Alone and you
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: know that's just as you, Said. Bucky you were on that,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: stage you realized, that and, TRUTHFULLY i think what happens too,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: is unfortunately in our climate and, culture it's this shock
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: me click bit kind of what CAN i say to
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: really get someone's attention, now whether it's a tweet or
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: whether it's a verbal. Thing people used to say things
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: WHEN i was really young in the stands that were not.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: Great but then you'd see a lot of people in
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: the stands kind of look at that person, like, Dude
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: i'm here to enjoy a, Game i've got my kids
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: with me or something. Right and NOW i think we've
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: got a little more aggressive in those, fashions or maybe
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: it's because of the toxic nature and certain things. COLLECTIVELY
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: i hope we don't become numb to, that right because
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: there is a human condition in this, CASE d, case
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: you've got to hope that you know, what, man you
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: just kind of let it, roll go back to where you,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: were get away from, it and don't let what your
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: gut is telling you that you know. What this is
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: what would happen IF i was anywhere but here right.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: Now but you are there right, now Right so that
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: window in that little reaction to human condition has to
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: still kind of win as far as trying to keep
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: in yourself composed or getting away from this toxicity which
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: exists way too much in my humble, opinion and from
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: an officiating, window it was difficult for me in real.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: Time we caught that on an off camera and now you,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: Know i'm naturally being asked when these situations come up rather,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: quickly like, keeing you get a weigh in on, This
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: AND i really. DID i, MEAN i talked to the
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: producers right. THEN i, said, LOOK i never saw. This
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: i've been around thirty. Years i've never seen this. Happen
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: so let me phone THE nfl office and get some.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: Clarity and then came in and at least tried to
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: do my best to give some clarity there in real.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: Time but they're unfortunate situations on everyone's behalf, Right like
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: you set it up, perfect, Bug we're in a professional.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: Situation we put ourselves on this. Stage the unfortunate part
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: of the stage is we're subjected to things that would
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: not be appropriate in my, home out on the, street
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: and me being a little younger might cause us to
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: have a little more of a distant disagreement than maybe
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: even in the house and me throwing it out of.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: Here but we're in these windows and we're on these.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: Stages this is hopefully those times where we elevate ourselves
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: as athletes or participants and can look at it and
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: let it go as the bs that it really. Is
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: AND i always my way was doing. IT i would
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: look to see whoever was standing next to the person
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: who was really being belligerent during a time out and
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: kind of look and hope it was maybe their significant
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: other next to, them, right and look at him like
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: he really came to the game with this guy and
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: he's acting like, this you, Know or maybe SOMETHING i
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: could do from a distance to make him feel small
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: for a second and hopefully stop. It but it was
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: a reaction from WHAT i, understand and we, see we
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: saw what the punishment is an extremely punitive condition here
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: for the. Team you've got a team that still ISN'T
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: i don't think a. Lock you've got two huge football
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: games that he will not participate. In i'm sure they're
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: getting in his pocket for a bit of. Change and
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: it's just these are parts of the games that we
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: all love. Intensity we actually almost love a little bit about.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: It reactions sometimes in some of our sports in a controlled,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: fashion but then we go over that one little edge
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: and then what is really entertaining to us kind of looks, like,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: MAN i don't want to see, that you. Know AND
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: i think that's kind of where we were with that
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: whole situation that they're. Unfortunate, Yeah i'm.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent with. You is emotional regulator doesn't work very,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: well and yet this financial com punitive damages from it
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: maybe will be the wake up call. Hopefully, Well, Jane
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: i've been telling everybody as they, Leave Merry, christmas But
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: i'm going to tell YOU i wish you a very Merry.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Christmas do you and your?
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  Speaker 4: Phone?
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Okay? Well?
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: Thanks my. FRIEND i appreciate. That And, ASTLEY i hope
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: you have a wonderful one with you and yours And
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: chucky wherever you are in the stratoscere right, now we
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: hope that you are going to enjoy another beautiful holiday.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: Season thank you guys so. MUCH i love being on the.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: Show and it's That tommy here the. HUG i loved
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  Speaker 4: ones and and appreciate this thing that we get to do,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: together which is called life.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: Fellas that's, right all, right Thanks, Jane Merry christmas. Brother all.
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  Speaker 1: other side of, this we're going to get to talk
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  Speaker 1: To Jolly saint fits you right here At Sports radio
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  Speaker 1: ninety three point THREE. Kjrfm Oh, man love that song Doing,
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  Speaker 1: well Going?
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  Speaker 6: Well you got me up and dancing at eight thirty
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: six in the morning on A Christmas eve.
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  Speaker 4: EVE i get that.
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  Speaker 1: UP i oftentimes WHEN i start to belt out a,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: SONG i get, man you sound a lot Like mariah Carry,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: yeah do you get that at?
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: All?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, Never i've never gotten.
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  Speaker 6: That but all, right WELL i will continue to sing
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  Speaker 6: that song very proudly UNTIL i.
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  Speaker 1: Do, okay, good good on. YOU i can. SEE i
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  Speaker 1: mean you got you got. Range i'll give you. THAT
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: i don't know if It's Mariah carey, range but you
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: do got. Range, well we got ever it fits you
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: on with this obviously voice of the, crack and we
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: get to find out what's going on over there At
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: Climate pledge and they're actually on the road right. Now
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: they did win again last, NIGHT. Fitzi that's two in a.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: Row maybe right at the ship to some, degree we
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: do have to write this bad boy before it gets
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: too terribly far off the. Rails and yet they're right
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: back at. It they got a back to backer tonight AT.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: La and so what you see last, night what'd you
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: see the last couple wins that is maybe giving you
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: the idea that they're turning a.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 6: Corner, WELL i think for, me the last two, games
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 6: this team got back to its. Identity you, KNOW i
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: go To San jose and they couldn't afford to get
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 6: into a track beat with that TEAM i, mean there's
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: a lot of fast players In San. Jose they've got
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: a lot of young, skill and you'll hear players se
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: all the. Time you, know we have to keep things.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 6: Simple you, know we're a defensive. Game we're a defensive.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 6: Team we need to work on shutting them. Down we
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 6: can't afford to try and skate with, them to try
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 6: and get into a track. MEET i felt like In
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 6: San jose they fell into that trap a little bit
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 6: early in the. Game they let in a goal thirty
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: some odd seconds into the third, Period but it was
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 6: all about the third period, comeback and they really the
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 6: response there to score two in the third in which
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 6: recently the third periods have been the downfall of The
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 6: Seattle kraken if you go back to that nine and one,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: stretch the cracking went. On they were outscored twenty to
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 6: five in the third. Period so they did a really
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 6: good job of calming things down In San, jose and
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: then the same thing last. NIGHT i thought last night In,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 6: anaheim you, know it might not have been the most exciting.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: Game that was a very physical, game especially towards the.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 6: End we still don't have a word On Vince, dunn
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 6: who got hit By Ross johnston and he was out
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 6: midway through the second. Period, so but it was a
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: very physical. Game but once again against An anaheim team
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 6: that has a lot of, young, skilled potential superstar, players
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: The kraken clogged up the, middle they clogged up the neutral.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: Zone they didn't allow the skill and speed Of anaheim
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 6: to showcase in that game last. Night so two very
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 6: good defensive, efforts two games in which The kraken played
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 6: back to their identity smothering some really young and talented.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 6: Teams and you're, RIGHT i mean they righted the, ship
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: so to. Speak it's a big hole to climb out
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 6: of when you're you, know seven points, Back but you
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 6: got to start. Somewhere and they've won two in a,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 6: row and if you can make it three here, tonight
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 6: you'll feel pretty good going into the.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: Break, Okay so three in a row would mean they
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: have to win back to back.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: Games it's been.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: Hard it's been hard the last couple of. Years coming into,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 6: SAID i don't even want to say the Stat, Yeah
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: i'm not gonna say. It it's been a, while it's
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 6: been a while since.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: The krack and have one game two of a back to.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: Back But the saving grace is that The La, kings
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 6: also last, night are on game two.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: Of a back to.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 6: Back they lost To columbus, yesterday and these games have
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 6: a funny way of playing, out you, know if you're
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: if you're the, Road if you're the road team and
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 6: in the game before The christmas break or before The
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 6: All Star breaker.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: Or, whatever right YOU i think are favored more than
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: the home.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 6: Team If i'm The La, KINGS i got family in,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 6: Town i've got people coming to. Visit it's the, holidays, YadA, YadA.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 6: YadA if you're The, Kracking i'm already on the, road
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 6: RIGHT i, MEAN i gotta be. Here i've got nowhere
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 6: else to. Be i'm gonna go back home And i'll
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: deal with all my stuff. Later SO i think tonight's
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 6: game from that, standpoint typically will favor the road. Team
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 6: The kraken And kings have played a pretty even series,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 6: historically Crack and winning last week at home uh in,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: Overtime SO I I i like The crackings chances to
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 6: staff that street. Tonight Joey, decord who's had a really
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 6: good couple of, games is going to start For seattle this,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 6: evening so there's gonna be an optional. Skate hopefully we'll
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: have an update On Vince. DUNN i did see him
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 6: after the game. Yesterday he wasn't wearing. Anything he wasn't uh.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: Cobbled.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: He was fully. Cloathed the bus was.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 6: Kind of, dark SO i can only he was fully.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 6: Clothed but, no he didn't have a cast or a
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 6: sling or you, know any type of bandage. On so, hopefully,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 6: uh you, know maybe he got the wind knocked out
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 6: of him and and he'll be ready to go.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: Tonight but we'll see here in about an hour and a.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: Half with a crack on the extra board, Escape i'm with.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: YOU i, MEAN i considering the temper tantrum that he threw,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: AFTERWARDS i didn't think he was very injured and he was. Mad,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah i'm. Glad i'm glad he didn't Hit decord with
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: this with the shrapnel or the back of his stick
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: or whatever else he threw down the. HALLWAY i, MEAN
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: i get. It you get to have a temper tantrum
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: here and, there and he obviously didn't feel good the
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: way that he got, Hit so hopefully he's good to.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: GO i got one more for. YOU i mean The
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: Mason marchmant. Trade is? THAT i MEAN i thought it
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: was like, WOW i thought that was a piece that,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: they you, know had added for a. Reason was it
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: just not? Working was there is there anything going on
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: behind closed? Doors because they've won a couple since he's.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: GONE i don't know if there's chance that it's an
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: addition by some traction clubhouse wise or locker room. WISE i,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: mean what do you think of that whole move is
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: or anything behind?
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 6: It, well first of, ALL i think we should normalize
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 6: using clubhouse for every locker room.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: Fan of.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: CLUBHOUSE i like, that all, right it does it?
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 6: Does you can't you can't sit with, us you can't
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 6: come in. Here BUT i think With Mason, marshmitt let's be,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 6: honest it didn't. Fit he didn't fit in the. Lineup
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 6: he didn't, fit you, know in the. ROOM i, mean
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 6: and there was no type of there was no there's no,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 6: animosity there was no, arguing there was no fighting in the.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 6: Background but you, know sometimes you have a guy just
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 6: didn't fit and and he has an opportunity to go somewhere,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 6: else and he's got three goals in two games since he's,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 6: left so you, know clearly for, him the trade was.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 6: Working but but For Mason, marshmot you, KNOW i don't
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 6: think he ever fully got traction uh in this lineup
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 6: and the crack and did all they. Could they moved
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 6: him up and down various places in the. Lineup he
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 6: was all in the first power. Play he was playing
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 6: With Matty veneers and And Jordan, everley and you, know
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 6: until the, injury he had some shifts With James howartz
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 6: And jared. Mccannon so it's not like he was he
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 6: was buried on the fourth. Line he was given opportunity
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 6: and you, know for whatever.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 8: Reason he just wasn't a.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: Fit and that, happens and that's.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 6: Okay The krakend were no worse for wear because when
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 6: you think about, it you gave up a third and
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 6: a fourth for, him and you get back a second
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 6: and a, Fourth SO i mean you get the fourth
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 6: round pick back and then you upgrade the third to a,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 6: second so you, know no, harm no. FOUL i would
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 6: have liked to have seen him a better run here In,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 6: seattle given the type of player that he's been known to,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 6: be but it wasn't a, fit and we wish.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: It, well, yeah it is what it. Is it's part
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: of the business of the, sport and so, yeah wish
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: him well and yet hopefully they can keep the winning ways.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: Going all, RIGHT, fitzi, well, HEY i want to wish
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: you a very Merry christmas as, well you the, wifey
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: the little. Man you go out there call win again
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: tonight and then you can enjoy a few days.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 6: Off thank you very, Much Bucky, ASHLEY a Mery christmas to, You,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 6: Chris christmas to everybody out, there and we'll talk to
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 6: you next.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: Week all.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: Right that's. Ever it fits, you the voice of The
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: crack and The Mariah carey of The Seattle. Crack and
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: if you, will ALL i want For christmas fits, you.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: Baby all. Right on the other, Side i'm gonna Get
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: ashley's confidence. Meet i'm gonna check in on some things
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: right here At Sports radio ninety three point THREE. Kjrfm Merry,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: christmas everybody out, There thanks for joining the. Show we
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: got a couple more segments, here but this is our
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: last one Before. Christmas to ask for what you? WANT
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: i MEAN i. MIGHT i used to circle everything in
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: the calendar or the. Catalog excuse me. That when my
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: mom would be, like all, right circle what you want
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: you go to the toy, section, obviously AND i circled.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: Everything and yet My mom's, like you know That sanna
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: can't give you, everything, Right and of COURSE i know,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: that and Yet santa typically did get me. Something and
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: So i'm, Wondering, ash if this is your final time
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: from your mouth The santa's ears that you get to
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: ask him for, something you can go ahead and ask
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: for something. Big maybe you ask for something, big maybe
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: ask for something in the, middle and maybe ask for
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: something that you feel is More mariner, esque, right and
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: more something That Santa Mariner santa would would be actually
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: willing to give. You what do you want right?
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: Now For?
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  Speaker 5: CHRISTMAS i THINK i Think i'm gonna have to ask
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  Speaker 5: For Gino. Suarez oh, Yeah i'd like to have him.
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  Speaker 5: BACK i don't want to be the team that keeps
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  Speaker 5: that has him and then lets him go and then
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  Speaker 5: he does, well and then brings him, back and then
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 5: lets him, go and then he does well and then
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  Speaker 5: wants to bring him back. Again SO i know he
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  Speaker 5: didn't do very well for us batting wise while he was,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 5: here but he obviously had a really good. Season it
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  Speaker 5: just didn't translate once he got. HERE i don't think
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  Speaker 5: that that would be the case next. Year SO i
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  Speaker 5: would like to give him another full season and see
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  Speaker 5: what he can. Do, PLUS i think his energy that
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: he brings is really valuable to this, team AND i
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: know that he is very well loved by everyone in the.
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  Speaker 1: Clubhouse, Yep i'm with. YOU i, MEAN i think that
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  Speaker 1: the power. Numbers you, know it's a couple of years
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: ago when they were getting when they moved on from,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: him where they were, Thinking, okay too many, strikeouts and
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  Speaker 1: it's just a matter of time until he kind of
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: falls off right where it's just even more of a
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  Speaker 1: strikeout or nothing. Guy and maybe the the home runs
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  Speaker 1: dip because you, know you hit fifty, homers you can
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  Speaker 1: strike out a. Bunch if you hit twenty two homers
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  Speaker 1: and hit two hundred and strike, out you, know two
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  Speaker 1: times a, game that's not as. Useful. Obviously, YEAH i
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't Mind gino at a you, KNOW i don't, know
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  Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen million dollars a year for a couple of.
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  Speaker 2: YEARS i, mean that's the Thing i'm not going to worry.
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  Speaker 5: About i'm not going to worry that The mariners are
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  Speaker 5: going to overpay him to keep, him because The mariners
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  Speaker 5: don't overpay, people that's, true so that WHEN i, yeah
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  Speaker 5: people are, like, oh we don't want to.
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  Speaker 2: OVERPAY i don't want anyone to overpay.
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  Speaker 1: Him how about this one for. You here's one's a
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: tug at your heart a little, Bit. Gino regardless of
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: what the money, Is, gino you love him and he
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: brings something to the table on the, field off the,
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  Speaker 1: field in the clubhouse Or. Bregman, now obviously you're spending
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: way More. Bregman but where's getting? More you're getting?
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  Speaker 2: More, yeah that is a tough.
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  Speaker 5: ONE i, MEAN i guess my heart would stop myself
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  Speaker 5: from allowing The bregman thing to even come into my
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  Speaker 5: mind BECAUSE i just don't think it would ever.
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  Speaker 2: HAPPEN i don't think we'd pay him that much or
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: what he WANTS i should.
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  Speaker 5: SAY i, mean if they decided to, say, yeah we
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 5: think he's worth, it we're gonna pay him by all,
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  Speaker 5: means bring him in like that's. GREAT i just think more,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: realistically they're gonna go with the one they, know and
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 5: the one they know Is.
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  Speaker 1: Gino, yeah and it would be half the. Price, yeah
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: probably half the price Is, bregman twice the. Player it's
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: hard to. Say he's not gonna get a hundred. HOMERS
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  Speaker 1: i know, that BUT i think that he just brings
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: more to the, table not a little bit more. Defensively
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: not That gino's bad by any, stretch BUT i don't
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: know if he's quite as. GOOD i think they both
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: would be good in the clubhouse different. Ways one's good,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: vibes one's, gritty, grind go play the game. Hard it's
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: all about winning and and and what not That gino.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: Isn't but you get my. POINT i, think, YEAH i
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: would Choose, bregman even though part of me is, like,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: yeah they're not going to do. That they're not going
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: to jump into those. WATERS i don't. THINK i think
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: another one That i've always kind of, liked and YET
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: i don't know necessarily why Is Harrison bader as a
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: guy that as A dh an INEXPENSIVE. DH i think
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  Speaker 1: you get him for less than ten million bucks a,
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  Speaker 1: year and you could do it on a short term
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: deal where if it's not working, out you move. ON
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: i think you get him less than what you paid
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: For Mitch garver, well and you're gonna get. More, okay
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get more out of him, offensively he's not great,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: defensively but that's. Fine you have a pretty set outfield
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: at this point in. Time But, bart if you have an,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: injury you want to be able to put somebody in
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  Speaker 1: there that you don't feel like you're going. Backwards and
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: then he could ALSO. DH i mean he, could he.
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  Speaker 1: Could he's not a guy that is just one side
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  Speaker 1: of the plate or the, other like you know The
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: Ben Refs schneider that we just signed. Yesterday he rakes
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: lefties and he's not good against right handed. Pitching and
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: SO i supposed what they're probably planning on doing is
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: figuring out a way to HAVE i don't, know maybe
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: the backup catcher when if there's a riety on the,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: mound maybe the backup that's when the backup catcher catches
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: and you you Put cal in THE dh spot being
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: a switch, hitter that's will you use HIS dh where
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: he's only half THE. Dh it's that or they find
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: ANOTHER dh to platoon with. HIM i think if you
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: do it the way THAT i express, first Or COW'S
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: dh and and you bring in your backup, catcher you're
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: going backwards offensively for.
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  Speaker 2: Sure yeah, No AND i get that FOR i don't
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  Speaker 2: think that that's the.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: Route it didn't work out very well last, year SO
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 5: i don't think that that's the situation you should.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: Have you're putting yourself in too risky of a position
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: in those.
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  Speaker 5: SITUATIONS i think what you were talking about earlier today
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  Speaker 5: with having Ref sneider Ref schneider, on you, know batting
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  Speaker 5: against lefties as YOUR dh and and bringing in someone
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 5: Like Carlos santana to face the, righties someone again who you,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 5: know and we know The garners love to have players
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: they are familiar.
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  Speaker 1: With, yeah, yeah, WELL i mean IT'S i think to some,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: degree for a, While jerry maybe discounted a little bit
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: too much the importance of the. CLUBHOUSE i think you
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: don't have to have it to. WIN i, mean you
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: can have a bunch of dudes that really don't like each,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: other but they're really good baseball players and they're going
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: to go out and win a bunch of. Games but
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: if you're going to be somewhere throughout the course of
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two, games those that don't get
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: along with, them maybe don't see eydie on a bunch of.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: Stuff they're gonna kind of grind together and they'll find
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: themselves in a sense of. Sympatica they'll find themselves in
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: a mode where they're doing what they need to do
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: for each other with one, another and so it ends
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: up playing where everything's kind of smooth sailing right, now
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: and then you're gonna run into those. Hiccups and that's
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: where a good manager comes in to get everybody rowing
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: in the same, direction even if you're not necessarily wanting
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: to kick it with each other outside of the field of. Play,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: SO i, MEAN i hope they add some. STUFF i,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: Mean i'm happy with the fact they Added Rob. RESCHNEIDER i,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: mean he's based on. War he was the best left
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: fielder on the, market all. RIGHT i mean he was
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: the highest rated left. Fielder now that's a guy that you,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: know puts the ball in play and hits a bunch
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: of line drives and understands how to handle the bat
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: when it's against a. Lefty, Yeah and so they definitely
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: upgraded with that. Move and YET i want them to
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: continue it upgrade because you did lose some Pieces polanco And.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: Gino you have not made up for all of that
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: yet with a backup catcher and a PLATOON dh slash utility,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: guys so we shall see what they. Do but from
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: our mouths To Santa's ears and the, marriners go ahead
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: and keep on getting us some presents we like. Presents
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: on the other, side, yep we're going to do our
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: one last thing and wish everybody to marry very, merry very,
• 1:40:25
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