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Isky: The Camfather’s Legacy Through Cheyanne Kane’s Lens · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Welcome to Women of the Autos Sphere.
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  On Break Fix, we dive into the stories of trailblazers, engineers,
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  racers, designers, and disruptors who are shaping the automotive
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  and motor sports industries.
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  From the pit lane to the boardroom, from concept sketches to championship
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  podiums, these women are driving change breaking barriers, and
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  inspiring the next generation.
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  Whether you're a lifelong gearhead, a curious newcomer, or someone
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  who simply loves a good story.
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  You are in the right place.
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  This is more than a podcast.
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  It's a movement.
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  Welcome to today's episode of Break Fix, where we dive into the heart of hot rod
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  history through the lens of director Cheyenne Kane's powerful documentary Isky.
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  This film tells the story of Ed Isky Arian, the legendary cam father whose
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  vision and innovation helped shape the golden age of American racing.
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  From his groundbreaking camshaft designs to the culture he inspired.
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  Iki isn't just a story about machines, it's about people, passion and
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  the drive to push beyond limits.
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  Join us as we explore the legacy of a man who turned a love for speed into a
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  movement, and the filmmaker who brings his journey to life on the screen.
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  And with that, let's welcome Cheyenne to break fix.
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  Hello.
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  Nice to be here.
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  Well, Cheyenne, like all good break fix stories.
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  There's a superhero origin story, but we're talking about a
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  superhero in the motorsports world.
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  Tell us what drew you into Ike's world in telling his story through a documentary.
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  I am a filmmaker, but I do have a lot of hot, rotting background.
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  I love cars.
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  I love driving.
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  I love driving alone.
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  I love driving with people.
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  I love learning about cars, and I think it was meant for
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  Iki and I to meet each other.
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  Uh, when I was younger, I used to work in a, uh, automotive demolition business,
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  which actually made me sad when I saw these hot rods, older cars come in, being
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  pulled apart, smashed, and then melted.
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  You know, I used to think, wow, what I could do with
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  these cars or figure them out.
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  I used to try to see how they worked or drive them.
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  I've been driving since I was 12 years old.
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  So uh, when I did meet Ed, I just immediately felt connected to him
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  and I was really surprised that there hadn't been a movie about him.
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  I thought, well, then I'm going to do it.
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  So how did you meet Ed?
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  Was it a series of events with your own car or something that
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  led you to end up in his shop?
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  Actually, I met him through a friend that has, my gosh, I've lost
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  track how many hot rods he has, you know, and it's in his blood.
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  And his father worked for Ed.
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  Ed used to go to his house.
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  I got to meet him.
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  I would hang out with them, heard all his stories, and just
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  naturally picked up my camera.
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  And watching the footage afterwards was just so inspiring.
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  I, I just could never keep my eyes off him.
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  And clearly the camera loved him as well.
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  So when you began researching.
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  Being there with your camera and capturing all these moments, what
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  aspect of his daily life or his routine or what he was doing in the
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  shop really surprised you the most?
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  You know, when I went to his shop for the first time, I was blown away.
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  The cam grinding machines, everybody working on different parts of the camshaft
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  to seeing how the camshaft comes together.
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  The lighting in the shop was just brilliant, and the
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  sounds were extraordinary.
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  In fact, even before I realized I had this story, that I was clear on a story that
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  I wanted to tell, but it wasn't until I got to the shop that I started to think,
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  wow, the sounds in this shop and what you could do with the different pieces.
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  You know, it was really an amazing experience to find a composer to do
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  the music and the types of things that we did with actual shop.
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  Sounds completely took me away.
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  So, hanging around the shop, did Isky ever let you in on the secret sauce?
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  What makes an isky cam better than anything else?
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  Filming him for many, many years, always trying to find out exactly what that is.
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  He did have a secret door, or does have the secret door.
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  I'm still, I'm sure he still does today.
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  A lot of people that are entrepreneurs are probably going into that business to
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  make money or that's a big part of it, at least for the people that I interact with.
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  Ike's journey started with pure love, pure curiosity, and that allowed his creativity
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  and his imagination to blossom and to not censor himself and to try things.
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  So this journey of following Iki, creating the business that he has and
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  the influence that he has had on this.
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  Entire automotive era.
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  It all started with doing what he loves and being curious.
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  You know, it was a surprise to him when, you know, he decided to make
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  his first camshaft and realized, wow, I can make money doing this too.
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  I don't feel ever in his mind it was about creating this huge impact on the
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  industry that really happened because of the interactions that he had with
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  the people pioneers of that time.
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  It was just the hands-on curiosity, how fast can I make this thing
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  go without killing myself?
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  But really.
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  What inspired me and, and captured me is Ike's curiosity to this day.
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  His curiosity, not just for the cars and how they work, the mechanics, but
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  the curiosity of each individual and who owns the cars, you know, and their story
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  and how they all got started with it.
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  You know, what I really started to see is this community of people.
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  That is so beautiful.
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  And when I was younger, I didn't really realize that that existed.
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  And having to meet Iki going into the world of drag racing, motor sports,
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  and just the connection in the.
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  The relationship with people was just really beautiful.
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  And if memory serves, ed is 104 years old this year.
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  You're there following him around the shop.
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  How old was he when you were recording this?
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  Well, I first met him in, uh, 2007 when I started recording him with
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  crew and different types of cameras.
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  That was around 2015.
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  That's when I was able to see another part of what he created and how he created it.
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  So you met him in his eighties and obviously started filming
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  him well into his nineties.
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  You ever wondered what was Iki like in his prime?
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  And so did that put you on a quest to find videos back when he was much younger
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  to incorporate into the documentary?
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  And if so, what did you discover by going on that quest?
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  Well, I definitely wondered what he was like when he was younger.
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  There is quite a bit of archival footage that you can find and
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  you see him as a young man.
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  I think what was really wonderful too is because there are so many
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  people in the community that I would go to and try to find.
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  Different types of archival footage that maybe wasn't in the,
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  in our world of the internet.
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  John Athens, who's his best friend, he had passed away already, but his wife let
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  me go through all his photos and videos.
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  And I found the coolest videos fishing, um, being at the drag races
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  and in the pit and with his wife.
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  And there's just this funny moment of where his wife takes a hot dog and.
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  Puts it right in his mouth and he's got his two sons next to him.
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  Seeing him as a young man, every time there's a smile on his face,
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  there's a cigar often in his hand or his pocket or his mouth working
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  on the cars during the races.
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  It was really incredible to find out about him.
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  You mentioned some of the funnier moments there, like the hotdog scene.
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  Is that in the documentary?
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  Did you incorporate that in?
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  It's actually not, it, it, it didn't fit into the story, but you know, I
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  have over 300 5400 hours of footage.
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  So of that content, maybe things that just got left on the cutting room
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  floor, are there some of those where you personally connected with them more
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  deeply and more emotionally that maybe we're not gonna get to see as viewers?
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  You know, so much of what Iki did is so impactful, and both of these moments
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  did make it into the film, which are so impactful in a way I can't even
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  begin to express what it really means.
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  To, uh, me and, and what I experienced personally.
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  The first moment would be early on when he is talking about building cars
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  and finding the pieces and going to an actual junkyard, which is not much
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  different than a recycling auto shop business, which is where I worked in,
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  and, you know, there's this image.
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  Of all the cars just piled up and that moment just took me back in time and
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  could only imagine what it was like for him and John and you know, these
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  guys building hot rods and just going out there and, and trying things.
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  That would be one.
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  Another moment that's very impactful is Iki talked about his mentor, ed Winfield.
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  Ed Winfield being a pioneer in, in the automotive world, ed had told me that he
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  would go visit him and record each other so he would have audio tape because it was
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  important of what he was talking about.
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  And Winfield really was brilliant.
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  I said, you recorded them so you have these recordings.
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  And so it was something he was looking for for quite a while.
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  So we went on this journey to find these cassette tapes.
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  Lo and behold, we did find them.
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  Finding them was just one moment of like, wait a minute, this
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  is from back in the seventies.
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  Once we got them and having him listen to them for the very first time, it
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  was as if he left this world and went completely traveled into time hearing
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  Ed Winfield's voice for the first time since he passed and that moment.
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  Was just so in incredible and I felt like I was traveling with him just
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  when we were filming it, and then when I saw it on the big screen, all I can
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  say is, wow, it's just so heartfelt.
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  I'm glad you went there because you've been talking about the impact that
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  Iki has had on various people, whether they're in the motor sports industry,
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  whether it's car culture, you know, beyond the world of camp shafts in general.
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  I'm wondering.
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  What have other people said or how have they reacted to
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  the film as they've seen it?
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  I am grateful for the, the people that have seen it and have had
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  just, I guess I would say maybe a shocking, a shocked response.
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  It was his grandchildren didn't realize who their grandfather was.
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  It's been very emotional responses.
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  A lot of people have thanked me that this is here.
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  'cause it's really surprising to me that nobody has done a film on him with
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  how much he's impacted the automotive world, not just with Cam chefs,
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  but his marketing sense to utilize whatever was happening in the moment
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  and taking that to another level.
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  As we know marketing is.
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  Is a huge part of the automotive world.
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  I look at him as a self-taught engineer.
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  There was no formal college or education in that way.
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  The audience, I think they really love seeing it so that he will be remembered
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  and that we know what history is about.
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  I think sometimes maybe people don't always remember.
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  For example, I'll give an example as a, a filmmaker, I was hiring a DOP
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  for a project and they went to school, I think it was UCLA and film school
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  and, and I was asking her questions and were talking about things, and
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  she had no idea who Jack Nicholson.
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  And I went, wait, what?
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  I was like, you don't know who Jack Nicholson is?
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  I was like, wait a minute.
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  You don't know the films, his whole beginning and how inspiring that is.
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  So I, I think long answer to your simple question is I got a reaction
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  from a lot of people of just thank you for telling this man's story this.
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  Portrait of this human being that artistically and creatively
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  influenced an automotive racing world of motor sports, but so much more.
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  So it's safe to assume that Isys seen his own film.
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  What has he said to you?
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  He has seen it and, uh, I, I actually showed him different versions of it, would
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  take his notes and actually he just saw it on a huge screen, a 70 foot screen,
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  which is how I would love everybody to see this film because how it is made.
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  His reaction was that he loves it and how much is in it.
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  The last thing he said to me as we were walking to the car is, I love it.
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  So that is the best response from anyone I could have.
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  So let's talk a little bit more about the making of the film.
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  You mentioned earlier about how you use the complex sounds of the shop.
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  Then added a musical score to it and created this whole ambiance
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  by infusing these two basically diametrically opposed things.
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  Let's say classical music with the sounds of a machine shop.
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  So what other challenges did you face in terms of balancing the
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  technical side of Ike's work and his life with the human side of the
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  story that you were trying to tell?
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  You know, in talking about the music, I. Want to uh, share.
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  You know, I did speak with several composers and musicians
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  that I might work with.
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  Marty Beller, who is the drummer for, they Will be Giants, but
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  he was the first one that didn't laugh and say, that's ridiculous.
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  I want to send you a camshaft.
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  He's a drummer, and I want you to play the camshaft.
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  So sending him parts, actual parts from the shop.
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  My key sound person that I worked with was fantastic.
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  We went to the shop for hours and just recorded the sounds of the shop
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  so that we could incorporate it.
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  That's ultimately what I sent Marty, and it's an original soundtrack.
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  That is just when you hear it and watch the film on something
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  like a 70 foot screen, it just takes you to another world.
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  And I bring all that in because that too is the technical and the artistic.
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  That's Isy.
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  He's a highly creative and artistic individual.
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  Medium happens to be engineering and mechanics, so they feel
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  like they go together very well.
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  The artistic and, and the technical and human story actually is
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  all part of who Isci is as this creative and curious individual.
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  As a motor sport enthusiast myself, you know, I recognize there's multiple
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  disciplines of motor sport and we can get excited about them in different ways.
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  And so we're talking specifically about, you know, straight line drag racing.
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  We're talking about some circle track, things like that where isky
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  was more prominent than let's say, you know, other forms of motor sport.
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  To an outsider, when you look at motorsport, ah, it's just cars
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  going around in a circle, or is cars going fast in a straight line?
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  You know, to simplify what I was just saying, but how do you convey
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  that to an audience that might be watching this that isn't necessarily
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  from the Motorsport community that would immediately identify and.
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  Understand what was happening.
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  So how were you able to do that in the film?
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  So it makes sense to the outsider?
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  I hope I did achieve my goal because from the beginning, Iki really spoke to me
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  and inspired me as not just a car guy.
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  But somebody that is interested in life in how things were and his
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  upbringing, very humble, you know, from a son of two Armenian immigrants.
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  He, at one point told me, people told him, you know, he'll never make much of
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  himself, especially using his name, Arian.
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  People shortened it, obviously, but.
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  I think it's a very universal story of this man that is so inspired
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  and curious about life and has not just done well financially, but has
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  inspired so many generations of racers.
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  But it's not just about the racing.
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  It really is that human story of perseverance.
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  Of interest.
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  And while that for us is in the automotive world and is obvious,
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  there really is this other story of a human being in this world caring about
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  other people, helping other people.
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  That's the other thing.
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  You know, the education that he put out, you know, they would've never called it
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  education, but the top tuner tip booklets the information in just one of those.
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  Books is probably an entire year of a mechanics course.
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  So helping people and hearing their story, you know, I really do hope it
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  reaches a larger audience than just our built-in automotive world and
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  just that straight line of racing.
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  When you think of those drag racers going from zero to
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  whether it's 180 or lt, who am.
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  Four, 112 I think it was, or you know, miles per hour.
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  I mean, I think of that and I'm still, I'm blown away.
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  I remember when I went to my first drag race and I was like, what?
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  Like it's just, wow.
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  Isky being 104 years old, he's seen a lot of change in this world.
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  He's been alongside shoulder to shoulder with other greats in the motorsport
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  and automotive world who have been innovators and agents of change and have.
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  Brought forth all sorts of revolution.
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  A lot of the folks that maybe people recognize or align with, a lot of their
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  invention came as a result of like World War II and being in the service and
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  what they learned from aerospace they brought to racing and things like that.
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  You talked about Isky being an immigrant, coming from Armenia.
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  What do you think sets him apart from those other innovators like
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  the Colin Chapmans and the Enzo Ferrari and all the other people
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  that are in the history books?
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  I would say what sets him apart is all the different avenues of his influence.
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  And again, I, I always go back to his curiosity.
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  I mean, to this day, and I just saw him the other day, his, his.
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  Curiosity surpasses many 20 year olds, 30 year olds that I've met today.
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  You know, going beyond just the camshaft, the marketing, the education,
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  the working together, the cam Wars.
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  But having fun joking with each other and having that competition there,
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  wanting to better each other, and he has spanned decades of his influence.
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  Each decade.
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  He, he nevers.
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  Stop.
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  I mean, even today, you know, the questions he'll ask people is
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  hopeful and encouraging to watch.
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  And what's interesting about his story is compared to a lot of other people,
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  you know, you talk about folks that made it big or became celebrities or
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  pro this and awardee of that, and they grew up maybe after an era began like,
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  oh, I was part of the hot rod era, but I wasn't there at the beginning.
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  Iki was there at the beginning of a lot of things.
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  And so I wonder.
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  His inventive spirit.
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  You keep referring to his curiosity, his innovation.
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  Does he recognize that he's at the epicenter of hot rod culture in America?
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  I don't think I can really answer what he thinks, but I can only tell
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  you what I feel from what I see.
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  And I would say he, he so humble.
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  He doesn't really realize to the degree.
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  Of the impact that he has had and continues to have on generations
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  of the motor sports and racers.
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  When I had the screening, I was lucky enough in, uh, one of the other screenings
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  to meet a young man, maybe in his twenties, and he brought as many friends
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  as he could in this last screening.
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  And just them shaking his hand.
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  It was the rock star.
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  He's a legend.
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  He is a legend.
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  He is the legend of speed.
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  His need for speed early on is what I was like, oh, he has to go.
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  There's a need for it.
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  Or as you say at the beginning, the love for speed.
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  You know, that is something that is in our DNA.
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  And so that too is why it was so important for me to make the film.
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  Knowing that there's no other films out there, so that this younger
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  generation can see where it came from.
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  And I hope inspire them to use their hands to not be afraid, of course,
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  of where our society is going with computers and cell phones, but to
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  step away from it once in a while and.
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  Working with our hands, maybe bringing shop classes back to our schools.
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  Welding, you go into a zone is what I feel at least like when I'm with
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  my car or motorcycle or I'm driving.
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  It's really I, I get to go into another world and.
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  Something happens that you just can't always experience in the
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  world trying to do everything the way you paint Ike's picture for us.
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  You know, listening to you recount the story and how this was all put together.
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  Not to get too metaphorical, but it reminds me sort of, you know, of the
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  Greek gods and so he doesn't realize he's the reincarnation of Festus, right?
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  And he's building the swords and the shields for the gods to go out and do
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  these wonderful things or you know, the wage war, whatever it is, and.
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  Same way he's building these cams and supplying it to pro drivers that went
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  on to become legends in their own right in the hall of fame and whatnot.
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  Yeah, so he's back there toiling away building these components for people.
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  It's absolutely incredible as I continue to think about this.
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  And you mentioned the younger generation, you know, coming to see the film.
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  What do you think is the big takeaway for them?
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  What's the lesson learned outside of the, you know, go learn how
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  to weld and use your hands?
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  What's that big point that you wanted to drive home, that they take with
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  them for the rest of their lives?
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  I think about it a lot.
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  I hope they will be inspired.
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  I hope that they won't be afraid to try things.
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  And experiment and make mistakes and fall down and get right back up, not give up.
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  I feel like for some reason with the internet and the technology and the
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  changes that's happened, I hope it brings them to come back together and learn from
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  each other and not to be afraid of that.
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  You don't have to hide your secrets, you know, you just work together and have fun.
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  The other.
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  Beautiful quality about Ed is he has fun.
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  The smile on him, on all of those years that I have filmed him, I just, I
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  cannot take my eyes off when he smiles.
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  So I, I hope the younger generation will just be inspired by him to
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  go for it, whatever that dream is.
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  So Cheyenne looking back.
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  What do you feel this project taught you personally about storytelling?
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  About innovation, or even about perseverance?
• 24:40
  Wow.
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  Sorry, that just so sorry.
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  I didn't expect this.
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  Um, you know, I'm so sorry.
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  I am so grateful to have been able to make this film to, um,
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  be with Ed to go to him and say.
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  Let's do this, let's do this together.
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  And, uh, it has shown me not to give up and when I have a vision to trust it, you
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  know, because along the way, in all of our lives, we're going to have naysayers or
• 25:18
  you can't do this or you can't do that.
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  And, uh.
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  It really took me to another level of not everybody is going to be
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  your cheerleader, and that is okay.
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  It's because you have to believe in yourself and what you're doing and have
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  the perseverance and have some faith.
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  For those at home that haven't seen the film yet, where's
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  the best place to see it?
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  Is it gonna be available on streaming?
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  Are there gonna be some live presentations where we can see
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  it on the big 70 foot screen?
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  Where can we get a look at Iki?
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  So right now we're still on the film festival circuit on our
• 25:59
  Instagram at Iki, the documentary.
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  We post everything there Whenever we have a film festival screening, right
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  now we're in talks and works with sales and distribution of the film and.
• 26:12
  There might be some other avenues that we're working on, which I'll definitely
• 26:17
  keep everyone abreast of at iki.
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  The documentary on the Instagram now that is C'S all done and wrapped up.
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  It's in the can, as they say in Hollywood Speak.
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  Right?
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  What's next for you, Cheyenne?
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  Any other automotive or related films in the works?
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  Any other spoilers you can give us?
• 26:34
  Well, there are other films in the works and some within the.
• 26:40
  The same genre.
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  And you know, there's so many stories in the automotive world.
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  I too, like Iki became captivated by each individual's story and how they had
• 26:52
  their road into the automotive world.
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  So there's a few, but nothing that I can really speak about as of.
• 26:59
  All right.
• 27:00
  Well we've reached that part of the conversation where I like to invite
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  our guests to share any shout outs, promotions, or anything else you'd like
• 27:07
  to share that we haven't covered thus far.
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  When Iskey found Ed Winfield's tapes, you know that, that on so many
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  levels, that was a brilliant moment.
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  And it inspired myself and my, uh, partner, Carrie Ann Enright,
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  who's the producer of the film.
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  We had a beautiful still photographer, Sean Murphy, who
• 27:27
  took really wonderful stills, and so we took photos of the present.
• 27:34
  He also took photos of the archival footage and photos that I found.
• 27:38
  And we made a table book because those cassette tapes have Ed
• 27:43
  Winfield and Iki speaking.
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  So that moment of Ed hearing Winfield's voice and what they're actually talking
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  about, we took some of their conversation and we put it and it has these beautiful,
• 27:57
  both archival and contemporary photos.
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  And then in between we have the, the dialogue between Ed Winfield and uh, Iki.
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  It's a really beautiful book and we have a website, www dot iki, the documentary.
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  There's a link to the book and other merchandise.
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  Thank you for joining us for this special conversation, Cheyenne,
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  about the documentary that you put together called Iki Ed.
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  Iki.
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  Derian story is more than just racing history.
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  It's a testament to innovation, resilience, and the passion
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  that drives us forward.
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  So folks, if you'd like to learn more about the film, follow updates, or
• 28:35
  connect with the team, you can visit www.ikithedocumentary.com and make
• 28:41
  sure to follow Iki on social media at Iki, the documentary on Instagram.
• 28:45
  You can also reach out directly by email@infoatvigilance.media
• 28:50
  for screenings media in inquiry.
• 28:52
  And collaborations.
• 28:54
  And with that, Cheyenne, I can't thank you enough for coming on Break Fix.
• 28:57
  This has been such a heartfelt retelling of Ike's life.
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  You've obviously made him a part of your life in a very deep and impactful
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  way, and we are thankful to you, like many, many others, for taking up his
• 29:09
  torch and really sharing the stories of a living legend on a global scale.
• 29:13
  Thank you.
• 29:14
  Thank you so much.
• 29:15
  It's been incredible to, to meet you and, and talk with you.
• 29:19
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• 29:25
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