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Black Men Are The Cancers of The Blk Community?? Feat @ImaniBlair · So Shameless

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  Speaker 1: If you know what I'm saying, so so shameless, If
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying due, so shameless, If you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying so shamous, so shameless, so so
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  Speaker 1: so shameless.
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  Speaker 2: If you know what I'm saying, so.
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  Speaker 1: Shameless, If you know what I'm saying, so shameless, Say
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  Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, so shameous it is.
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  Speaker 3: Hmmm, where do I start? We are back with part
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  Speaker 3: two of this week's episode. Emione forced me to ah,
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  Speaker 3: so I have some forty two and pineapple juice. Here
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  Speaker 3: Tromp again the voice of reason in the room. And yesterday, yes, sir,
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  Speaker 3: my pill for ring cousin.
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  Speaker 4: Can you tell them what pilfer ring means? And tell
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  Speaker 4: me Trump was.
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  Speaker 2: Pill for me?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know the definition, but I think it's to
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  Speaker 5: take with just a little regard for the entire situation,
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  Speaker 5: with some selfishness and entitlement.
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  Speaker 2: Damn, that sounds about right. That sounds about right. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: you know what pilfer means. I don't like the way
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  Speaker 2: you used it, so I don't share what it means.
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  Speaker 4: I like that you said I was that period.
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  Speaker 2: Let me see pill for pilfer, I said, stealing in
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  Speaker 2: small quantities, that's what it is.
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  Speaker 6: Oh hello, cleft up took me often repeatedly or surrepetitiously.
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  Speaker 3: Right, she's going down there and taking one, then you
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  Speaker 3: go taking another one?
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  Speaker 2: Like what are you doing? So?
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  Speaker 7: So wait, I can't have a that's all right, So
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  Speaker 7: you already told me I can't eat in here, So
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  Speaker 7: I can't eat real meals in here, and I can't
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  Speaker 7: drink pineapple juice hair what else?
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  Speaker 2: Like you can drink? That's did you bring it? That's crazy?
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  Speaker 3: Did you bring it? Or did you go get one
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  Speaker 3: can one day? And then it was like, oh he
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  Speaker 3: didn't notice that, and me go get another one or two.
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  Speaker 7: And then it was like bring the cans up here
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  Speaker 7: and drink them. Would how would you not know for him?
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  Speaker 7: Because you know where the stashes. You go to the stash.
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  Speaker 2: It's not stash, you know what I mean? What do
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  Speaker 2: you mean? It's nice?
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't in the fridge, wasn't even in the kitchen,
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't even on this floor.
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  Speaker 2: And he never asked, He never asked. He just did it.
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  Speaker 2: And then one day it was left one and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, yo, Yo, where are these cats coming from?
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  Speaker 2: He's like, I got it from downstairs.
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't say it's stealing because you put it in
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  Speaker 5: his pocket and took a hole, but it's kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of robber abuse, abusing.
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  Speaker 2: His family equity. It's like, what are you gonna do?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: But you strict about the pine apple juice too, because
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  Speaker 6: you got mad at me about the pine apple.
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  Speaker 3: No, I got mad at you because I took it
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  Speaker 3: out refrigerator.
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  Speaker 2: Can I get some? And you took a look at
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  Speaker 2: your little how much enough to do.
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  Speaker 4: A little half half? Had I told you we could
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  Speaker 4: have did that?
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  Speaker 2: You brought it up? All right, we're back. We're in
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  Speaker 2: a good mood. The money is fun.
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  Speaker 3: You have to her next episode of Lick the Rapper.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait because I'm beyond that whole.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she has to say.
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  Speaker 4: I'll be having a lot to say. Hmmm.
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  Speaker 2: So you're talking about sex on that show?
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  Speaker 6: Do I do? I?
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  Speaker 4: And you know what gets the people go? I mean
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  Speaker 4: I can talk about this on here right? What gets
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  Speaker 4: the people going?
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  Speaker 6: I've had this show since twenty twenty talking about eating ass.
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  Speaker 6: It gets to people going like men for some reason,
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  Speaker 6: they have such like serious responses to it.
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  Speaker 4: Still I don't.
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  Speaker 6: Know they be so like, either I can't believe that
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  Speaker 6: I would ask him that, or I can't believe that,
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  Speaker 6: you know, in eating ass in twenty twenty six, it's
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  Speaker 6: still a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy, Like they don't want to do it, or they.
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  Speaker 4: Just it's just a big deal. It's the Congress, Like
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  Speaker 4: to me, that's normal either way.
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  Speaker 6: Either way, one of the most popular rappers from my
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  Speaker 6: city shout out to him. His name is Waddy Guappo,
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  Speaker 6: and that clip like went viral for us. It was
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  Speaker 6: him talking about how he don't eat ass and it's
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  Speaker 6: such a big deal to people, like it's so crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Reason he didn't give a yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't give a He didn't really give a reason.
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  Speaker 6: He was just saying, shout out to the niggas who
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  Speaker 6: barely eat ass, and I don't understand that.
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  Speaker 2: Why is any thing for you?
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  Speaker 4: You like, I love my ass?
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  Speaker 2: All right, So we're gonna talk about this on the party.
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  Speaker 3: I know y'all are like, oh, hold please, but y'all
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  Speaker 3: know I'd like to ask questions. So any of y'all
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  Speaker 3: who want to hear subscribe to her page right now
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  Speaker 3: so that when I'm on there, you'll see the episode
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  Speaker 3: pop up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of aintal stuff, is a gay dude.
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  Speaker 4: That'll do it, that'll do it.
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  Speaker 2: Name Funkydneva.
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  Speaker 3: I think his name is Funky Daneva and he had
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  Speaker 3: this to say about.
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  Speaker 2: Men and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 8: It has now come to the time that we have
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  Speaker 8: a conversation. I've been saying for years on this show
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  Speaker 8: that black men need to have a conversation black men alone.
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  Speaker 8: We have got to figure out what is going on
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  Speaker 8: with us. This is not something that black women can
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  Speaker 8: help us with. This conversation does not include black women.
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  Speaker 8: Black women stand down and stand to the side.
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  Speaker 9: Black men need to have a coom by y'all amongst themselves.
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  Speaker 9: And I'm gonna niche this out a little more. And
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  Speaker 9: it's heterosexual black men. I'm gonna catch a lot of
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  Speaker 9: flat for this, but I'm gonna say it out loud
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  Speaker 9: with my whole chest straight.
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  Speaker 8: Black men are the cancer of the black community.
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  Speaker 9: That's where it starts and that's where it stops. Ladies.
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  Speaker 9: I'm here to tell y'all something. All this shit that
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  Speaker 9: y'all got going on, some of y'all not all of
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  Speaker 9: y'all with the gays and with the trans Let it go.
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  Speaker 9: Your issue is not a trans woman.
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  Speaker 8: Your issue is not a punk or not a sissy.
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  Speaker 8: Your issue is all of our issue. Straight black men,
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  Speaker 8: straight black men are the enemy to the gays. Straight
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  Speaker 8: black men are the enemy to the trans straight black
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  Speaker 8: men or who are causing harm to the girls and
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  Speaker 8: the women. That's where it's at now. Y'all can shoot
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  Speaker 8: the messenger. Y'all can call me.
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  Speaker 9: All types of faggots on the Shade Room and all
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  Speaker 9: the other blog sites. That's gonna pick this up and
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  Speaker 9: I'll eat it.
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  Speaker 8: But you'll never see a situation where girls and women
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  Speaker 8: walking around saying they scared of the gay boys.
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  Speaker 9: They scared of their life for the gay boys. They
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  Speaker 9: don't want to be around the gay boys.
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  Speaker 8: It ain't us going around with these fragile ass egos
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  Speaker 8: can't take rejection.
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  Speaker 9: We've got to ask ourselves.
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  Speaker 8: And I don't even know if the black straight male
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  Speaker 8: collectives can even answer this question because their egos tend
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  Speaker 8: to be so fragile.
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  Speaker 9: How is it we are.
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  Speaker 8: Raising boys with these fragile ass egos that feel it
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  Speaker 8: is okay to slam girls on their head for saying no,
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  Speaker 8: why is it that we have to make the females
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  Speaker 8: of the community make all the adjustments.
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  Speaker 9: It's not fair. Straight black men the cancer of the
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  Speaker 9: black community.
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  Speaker 2: Argue with your man, know you're tight, No, you're tight,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not tight.
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  Speaker 5: I understand the sentiments, but terribly irresponsible thing to say,
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  Speaker 5: especially if you are not a straight black man. The
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  Speaker 5: first thing that I would do being a responsible person
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  Speaker 5: is you always have to take accountability with your within
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  Speaker 5: your own community. And to just say, okay, if you,
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  Speaker 5: if you, if you would have said black men and
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  Speaker 5: he's a black man, I could understand that. But to
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  Speaker 5: eliminate his his his self and his group and be like,
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  Speaker 5: all right, not us, but straight black man, y'all are
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  Speaker 5: the cancer. And to use the word cancer is irresponsible.
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  Speaker 5: Why because do you know cancer?
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  Speaker 3: What would you define cancer as you did the terrorist
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  Speaker 3: thing when what's the name was here? What would you
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  Speaker 3: define cancer as?
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  Speaker 5: Cancer is like the disease disease, It is like it
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  Speaker 5: eats away at the core of you know, the host,
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  Speaker 5: the black the host exactly, and it attacks from within.
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  Speaker 3: So if you would it attacks from within, that's a
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  Speaker 3: good statement.
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  Speaker 2: I like that. So here's the community.
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  Speaker 3: If that is the host, who is what would be
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  Speaker 3: the general entity that would be attacking the members of
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  Speaker 3: that community. It's if we went by genre, if we
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  Speaker 3: went by gender, if we went by sexuality, which which
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  Speaker 3: when would you consider it.
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  Speaker 5: To be pointing? Pointing the finger at communities outside of yourself?
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  Speaker 5: Is irresponsible, especially within the Black community, to be that divisive,
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  Speaker 5: to use.
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  Speaker 2: That, pointing it as communities outside.
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  Speaker 5: I said to listen, I'm concerned with the Black community
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  Speaker 5: as a whole, right, So I'm not going to stand
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  Speaker 5: up and be like black women are the cancer. Black
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  Speaker 5: gay men are the cancer. Like take accountability for where
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  Speaker 5: you are, Like black men do have to step up.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that we could do better.
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  Speaker 5: And as a black man, heterosexual conversation, and if you
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  Speaker 5: want to have the conversation and you're not a heterosexual
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  Speaker 5: black man, be respectful. Don't label it as a cancer
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  Speaker 5: because is that helping the situation? Are you talking to?
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  Speaker 2: So?
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  Speaker 5: Now, part of the problem of part of the issues
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  Speaker 5: that black men have and black boys have is that
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  Speaker 5: they are raised with the finger pointed at them, that
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  Speaker 5: they are the cancer, that they are the worst, that
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  Speaker 5: they are the most violent, that they are the most dangerous.
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  Speaker 5: This is a label that black boys grow up with,
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  Speaker 5: so putting that label on them is not helping the
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  Speaker 5: conversation at all. It's actually irresponsible. It's a better way
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  Speaker 5: to have this conversation. And if you're not within the community,
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  Speaker 5: if you're not a heterosexual black man, to say that
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  Speaker 5: heterosexual black men specifically are the cancer of the black community,
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  Speaker 5: it's just it's problematic.
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  Speaker 6: I have big problems with what he said. My dad
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  Speaker 6: is my favorite person in the whole world. That my dad,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, raised me. He was home with me until
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  Speaker 6: I was about four years old. To this day, if
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  Speaker 6: I call him, my dad.
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  Speaker 4: Would pull up.
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  Speaker 6: He's a heaterosexual black man, you know, and so when
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  Speaker 6: it comes to him and my brothers, they would do
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  Speaker 6: anything for me. So I could never sit here and
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  Speaker 6: say straight black men are cancerous. Last night, I was
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  Speaker 6: outside smoking a blunt mind you, I'm not from here,
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  Speaker 6: and it was a black man out there, and I
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  Speaker 6: felt safe, you know, with him being right. I felt
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  Speaker 6: like he's not gonna let nothing happen to me. And
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  Speaker 6: that's how I feel around straight black men, like they
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  Speaker 6: protect me, you know. And I'm sorry for other people
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  Speaker 6: who don't have that experience. But I think that's very
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  Speaker 6: fucked up. I wanted to say, really, and then I
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  Speaker 6: said very it's very fucked up.
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  Speaker 3: I think that both of y'all have good sentiments, but
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  Speaker 3: I have a lot of my own. To Emani's point,
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  Speaker 3: just because he said straight black men, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: that means all. I think there's obvious certain things you
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  Speaker 3: don't have to claim because you know that's not you.
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  Speaker 2: Right me.
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  Speaker 3: I don't believe I'm a cancer to my community. That
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  Speaker 3: doesn't mean I can't look at the entire ecosystem and say, yes,
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  Speaker 3: this particular it's fucked up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that yet.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going there yet, but I'm just gonna be
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  Speaker 3: able to say that I can understand your point by saying, yo,
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  Speaker 3: I have good straight black men men. I have that,
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  Speaker 3: and I am blessed to have that. And by you
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  Speaker 3: being able to say you're blessed to have that, you
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  Speaker 3: would have to be able to realize everybody.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I was saying.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sorry for y'all who don't, but I can't sit
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  Speaker 6: here and say anything.
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  Speaker 3: I would say that you know that you've been blessed
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  Speaker 3: with a good community or you know, equal your own
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  Speaker 3: nuclear family, and then in your experiences, you don't look
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  Speaker 3: at it like that, and that's cool. Yeah, Trump, I
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  Speaker 3: think you're looking at this this message versus message for one,
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  Speaker 3: because if I was to say it, I think you
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  Speaker 3: would still say it was irresponsible for me to say.
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  Speaker 3: But I think you would be more open and hearing it.
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  Speaker 3: Because I'm not.
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  Speaker 5: Gay, I would be more still disagree with you.
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  Speaker 2: You would disagree, but you but you made a large
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  Speaker 2: point that he is that because he's I agree.
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  Speaker 3: That that was irresponsible for him, because nigga, deal with
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  Speaker 3: your own ship.
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  Speaker 5: My thing is this, you can deal with your own
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  Speaker 5: but it's a it's a it's a character flow.
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  Speaker 2: In my opinion, my thing is And you said you
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  Speaker 2: agree why.
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  Speaker 4: I was reading that, I'm sorry, I agree.
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  Speaker 3: If I am a victim, or if I feel victimized,
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  Speaker 3: or if I feel oppressed, or if I feel any
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  Speaker 3: of the things by a particular group, I am able
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  Speaker 3: to talk on that group.
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  Speaker 2: You can't tell me.
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  Speaker 3: I can't say what I feel or of my experiences,
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  Speaker 3: my friends experiences, the people around me experiences. I'm black,
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  Speaker 3: I can speak on white people, oppression from white people
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  Speaker 3: right from racist white people.
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  Speaker 2: I'm black, I can say, Yo, white people.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all are colonizers, y'all have done these things to my community.
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  Speaker 2: Right. It doesn't make it less valid because I'm not white.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big.
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  Speaker 5: Difference, though, why because we are not in the white
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  Speaker 5: community at large. So in me exposing white people for
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  Speaker 5: their evils, I don't feel no ways about it. But
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  Speaker 5: if I'm trying to pull the black community together and
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  Speaker 5: I want black folks to do better in general, for
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  Speaker 5: me to say that black men, heterosexual men are cancer,
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  Speaker 5: that approach is divisive and it's pointing a finger and
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  Speaker 5: it's not helpful. Again, black boys are raised and they
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  Speaker 5: will live up to people's expectations. If you have expectations
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  Speaker 5: said on them already that they are cancer and they
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  Speaker 5: are a problem, they're gonna live up to those expectations.
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  Speaker 5: So you gotta be careful with the words you put
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  Speaker 5: out there.
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  Speaker 2: I think that how you feel about.
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  Speaker 6: This, Yeah no, When I was saying I agree about that,
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  Speaker 6: you should be a part of the community. Yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 6: It's like if a white girl was talking about black women.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to hear none of that shit.
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  Speaker 6: You feel me, But if a black woman is talking,
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna listen so in that, you know example, That's
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  Speaker 6: why I said I agree with I don't like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm not saying that you don't have a
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  Speaker 3: valid point either, one of y'all. Right, But it's kind
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  Speaker 3: of like when I talk about women and I tell women,
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  Speaker 3: you're like, yo, this, They don't but if you were
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  Speaker 3: to say it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they might not want to hear it from me.
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  Speaker 2: But now I have my experience with women.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you how I feel based off my experience,
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  Speaker 3: and you invalidate it because I'm not one of y'all.
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  Speaker 3: That's not fair and it's not helpful.
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  Speaker 4: That's not I'm not a parent. People don't want to
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  Speaker 4: hear me talking about kids.
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  Speaker 2: People.
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  Speaker 6: Anytime I talk about somebody kids, somebody saying you ain't
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  Speaker 6: got none, shut.
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  Speaker 4: Up, you do the same shit.
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  Speaker 2: I understand your sentiments to.
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  Speaker 4: But I've been a daughter.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a completely different conversation and I'm willing
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  Speaker 3: to do that. Let's table that. I'll get back to it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'm open to constructive criticism. The keyword constructive.
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  Speaker 5: There's nothing constructive about the way he framed it, and
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  Speaker 5: saying that black heterosexual men are cancer to the black community.
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  Speaker 5: That's not constructive criticism. We can openly talk and critique
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  Speaker 5: black women, be like, hey, you know, maybe y'all could
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  Speaker 5: do better with this and we could do better with this.
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  Speaker 5: That's that's helpful. That's constructive to say we are the
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  Speaker 5: cancer of the black community. That word choice, I don't
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  Speaker 5: see it as constructive.
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  Speaker 2: I think I.
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  Speaker 5: Agree whether you agree or not, whether it's something to it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So what you're saying that it hurts your feelings,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't feel good to hear that.
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  Speaker 2: It's not about feelings.
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  Speaker 3: But you're saying, like, yo, it isn't about whether it's
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  Speaker 3: true or not, but it's just it's not good to
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  Speaker 3: say it.
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  Speaker 5: It's not about whether it's good to say it. It's
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  Speaker 5: about words are important, the way that you say things
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  Speaker 5: are important.
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  Speaker 4: It's true. I don't think it's true. Hello, I don't
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  Speaker 4: think it's true.
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  Speaker 2: That's another conversation. Hold on, let's let me get that.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Come on, come on.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: I would say, like, listen, words are important, and constructive
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: criticism means the way that you choose to put those
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: words together are important, and that is not constructive, it's
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: not helpful, it's not.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I don't think that he was speaking to uh care
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: about straight black men's feelings. I think he was more
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: so speaking to women and gave people fighting amongst each
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: other when they have a common person or common group
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: that they feel oppressed by. When I think that's I
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: think that's what his message was. It wasn't really about us.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: It was more like, yo, y'all, we need to stop
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: fighting amongst ourselves because these niggas out here is the
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: people that's fucking with us.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I think that's the message that does sound constructively. That
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: sounds divisive. I understand that, and money, I'm ready to
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: hear what you have to say.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: I think that sounds completely divisive. It's just not true,
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: Like all right, do you know right, we'll see a
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: racist white man right and they think he's the worst person,
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: not knowing that his wife at home.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Is way more where he's racist than he is. You
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: So I feel like it's easy to be like, oh,
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: black men on the cancer not knowing his mama toxic
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: and shit, and that's the reason he acts like that
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: because mama abused them. It's yeah, our community needs help, period,
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: and I think it's very hurtful when we say black
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: men is black women.
• 19:08
  Speaker 10: You and you.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: We really need each other, you know what I'm saying
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: real bad because nobody's worse than anybody. We are feeding
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: each other all this toxic bullshit.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh period, I'm still gonna hop over it.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Go ahead, hop to the whole fuck it just hop.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: No, I think I know.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: I think you did a great job with that, and
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: it basically nailed the coffin with it. But I still
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: want to say, like, yo, to the point of the cancer.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: I want to get to that that conversation, right, not
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: raising your children, the violence in our communities amongst each other,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: the way we speak to women, the way we regard women,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: the disregard of women, the lack of protection for our women,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: the abuse on our women, the way we regard ourselves. Now,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: I think there's room to say this was done to
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: us in certain some of those ways, but I need
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: to be able to point out the actual thing and then.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Figure out the causes. Right.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: So it's like, Yo, you smoke cigarettes, yeah, but you
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: still have cancer. You have cancer?
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: When I see the effect of us on the community.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I can understand where he's coming from. I want to
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: be clear, I don't want to agree with this at all.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: There's no part of me that wants to pander all
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: wants to like. But when I look at what they
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: go through, when I look at what our sisters and
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: women go through, and then I hear the yo being
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: on Facebook sucks. I try to expand my brand by
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: going over to Facebook, and it sucks because on Twitter,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I know people are tweeting. I know people are just
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: saying the worst shit to get shipped off right on
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: the threads. I know, just like the woke population, and
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: you know they're doing whatever they do, whatever it may be.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: But Facebook is real, That's a real world, and it's
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: horrible to hear the real thoughts of people that are
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: not putting on.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: They're real, They're real, that's they're real shit. You understand
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: And when I see the niggas talking the nigga shit
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: and they don't know how to spell and they just
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: she's like yo, it's just like yo.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I cannot believe you pressing like the rest of us is.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: In twenty twenty six, we're looking towards twenty twenty seven,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: where we just started May and we're already thinking about
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: right these nigga, is this seven.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying? No, I get it here? YO? Did hell?
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Just Yo? What the fuck is? That was nuts? That
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: was nuts?
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: What was that technology?
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Dude? Video? Fire crackling?
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: That was weird video.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: But on this topic, I would I don't want to
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: say this, but I do feel like it's more so
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: not black men are the cancer, and it's just men
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: are the cancer, honestly, because if we think about other races.
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: My siblings are white, and I grew up with white people,
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: so I know what they I know what white people
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: going on. But Mexican people, white people, and race, it's
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: the same shit going on, you know. Maybe I don't know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: maybe because we're in this culture so we see it
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: all the time. But other races are going through the
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: same ship. So I don't know if it's a black
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: man problem. I think we're not talking about the world,
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: our culture, our community, yeah, okay, yeah, our community.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: White people got their own problems, women got their own problems,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Gay people have their own problems, all of us here.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm sorry the country.
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: I think that I think he was speaking to a
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: specific issue that I think has been I want to say,
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: on the rise, but I think just been drawing more light, right,
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: because when I at first, when I listened to him,
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: I'm like, this is obviously not true. But then when
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: he's speaking at the end of it, he says that
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: basically his point is about I guess black men attacking
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: women after being rejected, right, because he was like, you know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: there should be no reason why a man and slamming
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: a girl on her head because she rejected him. So
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: to Tom's point, I think into to you trying, I
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: think I think that's where the case is coming from, right,
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: And I think that's where the sentiment is coming from.
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: And I do think, like I said, initially, I was
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: with you was at but when I'm listening and I'm
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: absorbing the whole thing, I'm like, where do we have
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: that conversation?
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: How do you broach that? Right?
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: Because that's something to talk about, right, like just staying
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: here in our community, the amount of women that are
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: violently assaulted and attacked and beaten and killed and because
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: of the rejection, like a guy trying to talk to
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: them and she not wanting to. Like, I think that
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: like somebody like some you gotta do something, like you
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, and I don't know. I don't
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: like how he did it, you know what I'm saying,
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: And to your point, like I don't like how he
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: did it.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Agreed, but agreed, But we can't be like, yeah, we gotta.
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: I think we have to do it somewhere in some fashion.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: And we always and we always are willing to hear that.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: We always talk about white people. We always talk about
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: the cops were talking about that we really need to
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: start being on our shit in our community. I believe
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: this to my core. This is not Pandel, this is
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: not a Devil's advocate. It is time for us to
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: start focusing on our communities and literally getting rid of
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: the cancer, the ones. How many times I told you
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: some of these little niggas need to die, some of
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: them need to put it. Some of you put in
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: prison forever, kill them off, whatever, because we have to
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: get rid of the of the weeds.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: We have to.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, some of these motherfuckers is never gonna change.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: And then they're pro creating and teaching their children this shit.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: You're not these motherfuckers off for real? That There's a.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Guy on Instagram that answered this video and he was like, oh,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: well who raised them?
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: You're talking about the black man. The woman raised him.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: His mother was over there making excuses for his behavior, this,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: that and the other.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, and he needed his fucking dad.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: We need positive black role models in this community in
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: the house showing these little boys and girls, you know,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: a positive figure, black male figure, and without that, we
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: see what's happening. You can't blame the woman for doing
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: her best with what she had. I don't give if
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: she didn't have the education, and she did. She did
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: the best with what she had. Where the fuck was
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: the dad at?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Right? Right?
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: And we think that it's okay because we was raised
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: by single moms, so we think, well, the mother should
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Look at me, I'm all right, my mom did it. Niggas,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: she wasn't supposed to have to do that. This is
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: a result of the crack ero and you and you're
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: not all right. A lot of us ain't all right.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't want to be about a bunch of straight
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: black niggas that ain't on our timing.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck about the gate niggas that
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: ain't on our timing. They're not. They don't scare me.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: It's just like these niggas loud, they flairboyant, they keeping
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: dropping on the floor backwards. But it's not but it's yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: the women, it doesn't right. But the niggas that drank
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: too much, they start taking their shirts off and they
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: pulling on shout and they're all grinding on.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Talking, all crazy.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: And she don't really know what to do because her
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: friends is over there, her male friends is over there,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: but she can't call on them because this nigga gonna
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: want to fight them, right, So she's trying to, you know,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: with herself. When we talk about the shit. Of course,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: it hurts because it's coming from somewhere else. It hurts
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: message versus message. It hurts because it's coming from somewhere else.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: And the wording semantics.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: It's not semantics, it is it's words mean things. Words
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: are powerful. It's bigger than semantics. And you got to
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: understand that I agree with the sentiments I said that
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: when I first started. I understand what he's trying to say.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: I understand that we have to have these conversations, so
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: it's important that we.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Talk about it.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: We could talk about the shortcomings that heterosexual black men
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: have all day. I'm all for it because we need
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: to do better, and us as the ogs, we need
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: to lead these conversations. I'm all for it. It's just again,
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: I can't stress this enough. The way you start the
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: conversation is very important. And somebody in the comments said, well,
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: what would be considered constructive? You have to acknowledge, like
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: you made a point that men are the problem in general.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: That's because I agree to an extent. We are living
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: in a patriarchal society. So what men do and men
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: shortcome are on much higher display and are going to
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: be way more problematic to the entire world. It's going
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: to affect the world and the ecosystem in a much
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: more impactful way. The same thing with black men. I
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: would lead with that black men are important to the
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: black community. Black men are important to the core family.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: Black men need to be leaders in the family. What
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: can we do to get back to that feeling? Where
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: are we falling short? How can we uplift the black man?
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: That is the same conversation, but you have to lead
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: with how important black men are instead of being like
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: black men are the cancer. You lead with that, it's
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: almost like, yow, we heterosecial black man. We'd be better
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: off without them. That's the sentiments I got from that statement.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: If you leave it alone, you know what I mean?
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: You cannot leave it at that. Words are very important.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: The cancer cancer is something you want to get rid
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: of and leave it there right, not help, you know
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: what I mean? Not bring back to a better place.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: That's not the right word.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: Need black men, We need straight black men like that
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: cannot be Uh, that's crazy.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: I've seen them meme where it was like, yo, gay people,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: straight black gay people need straight black men to give
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: birth to more gay people.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Hilarious, that's hilarious.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, that's man funny. But it's some
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: The one thing that I said, and I had a
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: little video because now I got to release my own
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: videos on Instagram so they don't just stop recommending my pages.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: But I did a little video about.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: This, right, and I was like, I don't really enjoy
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: weaponize gayness.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I don't like it when.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Like they did the thing where they're trying to recruit
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: black women to their side, like, oh yo, sisters, don't
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: worry about us. You need to worry about them, Yo,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: this ain't even your issue. Why are you over here
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: trying to do that with our family?
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Why are you over here trying to do that like.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: You've got your own issues, you ain't. I never hear
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: y'all talking about the lesbians beating each other up.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I never hear y'all talking about that. Don't y'all worry
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: about the shit and y'all shit. That's how I felt, But.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: I had to be honest with myself that the reason
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: why this is happening is because they.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Have always felt threatened by us.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: They have always We don't feel threatened by them, they
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: feel threatened by us. It's a lot of the white men,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: the black men being the white man in our community conversation.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I get that.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: It's a lot of that where you have to you
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: see the white dudes that sit there and listen when
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: we talk about white people and all that, because their allies,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: and they go.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: We got to get the balls to be able to
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Sometimes right by the people who have felt depressed been
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: killed in all of this dragon that gay people, trans people,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: gay and trans those are the ones that really be dying.
• 31:57
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Lesbians don't never get killed I'm serious. The only people
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: that killed lesbians is the lesbians.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Does that make it okay?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, likekes.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: Me sad when like gay couples fight. Something about that
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: is really sad and dark to me.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really like fun. You don't know what to say,
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: you don't know what this said.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: It can't be safe anywhere my own gender and type
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: and everything.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: I think that, honestly, the division that he said, in
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: my opinion, that division is the cancer to the community.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: The division is the fucking cancer. Us pointing fingers and
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: being mad at each other. Instead of sitting down trying
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: to figure out how we can love each other better
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: and be the best versions. We just mad at each other.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: That ain't gonna get us nowhere each other.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Yes, we literally can.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: No want to make sure that you hear that I
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: said this in my video home.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I didn't enjoy this conversation because, for one, I feel
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: like it hit home one two, I feel like conversations
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: like this are really the cancer that he's talking about.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Right when you ignore all of.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: The positive things straight black men are doing, generalize all
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: straight black men straight black men are cancer. That's that's
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: it' that's a very nuanced conversation that I don't think
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: was addressed in this particular clip that mixed with what
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I like to call weaponized gayness where.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Gay people and like I said, like, okay, I get it.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: A lot of people raised by single moms, right cool.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: I was raised. I had a dad.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: So it's like, y'all not about to like diminish my father,
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: you know, and say that a straight black men are
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: cancer and diminish the amazing black grandfather father brothers that
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: I have fucked that, you know.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: That's crazy?
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: That where do I go from here? I have more.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I just hate.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: When I have such an a dope sister, like in
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: money in the building. I don't even want to put
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: women under the microscope, but I have.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: To get it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: What what they do? What the girls do?
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Damn?
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Apparently the ladies were on some type of platform calling
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: for I don't know, I don't even understand.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I'll play the video and y'all make sense of this.
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: Is there is there any women here who don't want
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: to deal with men period?
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Or is it just black men?
• 34:55
  Speaker 9: Or is it to make sure it's just.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Black men and we actually want no man non black
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: men is helping this corrections that you speak of, So what.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Are the what are the corrections that you're looking for specifically.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Of course because that's the only thing that's gonna work.
• 35:11
  Speaker 11: But I mean, where what are you looking for Black
• 35:14
  Speaker 11: men to arrive at a place of.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Understanding of like what do you?
• 35:17
  Speaker 9: What do you want to do?
• 35:18
  Speaker 12: Well?
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: Maybe we believe that there is no help for hope
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: for them that we don't believe they change in their minds.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: We don't.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: But I'm trying not to say what I really want
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: to say because you're on stage. But if they could
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: not exist hurry, we wouldn't.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Be mad at black white men.
• 35:37
  Speaker 11: I think for me, I think I want the caudaling
• 35:39
  Speaker 11: culture to kind of stop. I think they get validated a.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Little bit too much and they're not held accountable as
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: much as.
• 35:46
  Speaker 11: White men, Hispanic men, Asian men, like the legal system
• 35:50
  Speaker 11: works in.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Their benefit a little bit more than they think it does.
• 35:54
  Speaker 11: They're seen as the ultimate like most oppressed, and I
• 35:57
  Speaker 11: think that that cardaling culture needs to.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Stop, but they need to be held accountable other options.
• 36:01
  Speaker 11: Because we live and white male patriarchy, white men set
• 36:06
  Speaker 11: what's socially acceptable. So with you all setting what's socially acceptable.
• 36:13
  Speaker 11: The general behavior of black male culture needs to be checked,
• 36:19
  Speaker 11: and there needs to be more because we're no longer
• 36:22
  Speaker 11: looking for accountability from them, because they've proven that they
• 36:26
  Speaker 11: will not take accountability. We need the men who set
• 36:30
  Speaker 11: the culture to make them take accountability by exacting some
• 36:35
  Speaker 11: sort of consequence or perpetrating behaviors that are not socially acceptable,
• 36:42
  Speaker 11: because you all create the socially acceptable behavior.
• 36:47
  Speaker 12: Y'all really set up in a room talking about black
• 36:49
  Speaker 12: men need to be put in their place, and you're
• 36:52
  Speaker 12: looking to the clue clubs clan to do it that much.
• 36:55
  Speaker 12: Just say that, stop disguising it as accountability. Theselack women
• 37:00
  Speaker 12: here do not represent all black women, the small group
• 37:04
  Speaker 12: of better lonely, self hating black women who hate themselves,
• 37:11
  Speaker 12: hate where they come from, hate what they look like like.
• 37:14
  Speaker 12: Y'all do know that if black men don't exist, neither
• 37:18
  Speaker 12: well black women. They're so dumb and bitter that they
• 37:20
  Speaker 12: can't even realize that the claims that they're making don't
• 37:24
  Speaker 12: even make sense. You can tell this's just come from
• 37:27
  Speaker 12: a place of bitterness and ignorance because one of them
• 37:31
  Speaker 12: had the audiacity to say that the legal system benefits
• 37:35
  Speaker 12: black men more. The kul Klusk claim has always been
• 37:37
  Speaker 12: tied to violence against black men and black women. So
• 37:41
  Speaker 12: y'all going out solicit them.
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: To help y'all get rid of black men? Is?
• 37:46
  Speaker 12: I promise you it's not going to work out the way.
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: You think it is.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: I can't even believe what. I can't even believe this
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: video was a panel like it's big. It's like trying
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: to trick me.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: This had to be a prince that was clubhouse, right.
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: It's something about clubhouse that makes people just talk crazy.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I think they don't.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: It's something about that app it's cursed.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I believe it.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: Because this rhetoric online that supports that type of thinking.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: That was extreme, like or can we do to get
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: rid of all black men?
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: Off of the I'm sad for them, like how I
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: was joking with you in the beginning, Like imagine how
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: hurt they must be to get online and say some
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: shit like I'm sad for them, you know?
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: And that sucks.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: I agree, like like whatever you experience at the hands
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: of black men, I feel for you. And there is
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: some bitterness there, there's there's healing that has to be done,
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: and all of that ship but at the end of
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: the day, you gotta understand that what you're saying is wild,
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: and it's like it's you're projecting based off of your experiences.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: And when when people start talking like that, it makes
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: me want to like, what type of niggas are you around?
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Exactly?
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: I'm around black men all the time that I admire,
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: and even people that I don't know. My algorithm is
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: full of intelligent black men. You get to choose and
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: pick who you around and who you associate with, who
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: you're friends with, And I got nothing but black men
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: around me that are amazing and that I admire. Does
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: that mean that there aren't some niggas out there doing
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: the wrong thing?
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: But where are you spending your time and energy with?
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: What type of black men? Where are you?
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Like? Who are you said?
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: Right? Don't y'all think that the energy you give out
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: is what you get back?
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: You want to go there?
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: But I mean I do.
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: If you go out in the world thinking that black
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: men are bad, black men are scary, They're gonna get me,
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: You're probably gonna run into some scary ass niggas, you know,
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, knock on wood. But I go into the
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: world thinking that these black men are going to protect me,
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: and that's what I run into.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: I literally feel protected give that give.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Off really good and I don't think a person, you know,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I don't want to circle it back to like, oh,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: y'all are giving off the energy to make y'all you
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: do give off a very welcoming energy that a god
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: would probably be disarmed by. I just think that when
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: I think about in cells, I think there are some
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: in batches out there, and m batches to me, would
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: be involuntary bachelorettes, women.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: That don't don't want you, right, they.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Don't get the positive attention that they want from men
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: that don't have positive I don't want to say positive experiences,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: but a lot of this seems to be really social,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: social media coded, like you don't have the circle, the
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: social circle, you're not getting dates, you're not having great
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: experiences with men period. And that doesn't mean that you
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: have a bunch of negative experiences, but you just not
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: in a great dating space, social space, and voluntarily and
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: you get negative and fucking bitter.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's the same thing that happens within cells, right,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: and so you kind of congregate with people who feel
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: like you, who identify with what you what you know,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: how you feel, and you'll fee each other. He remembers
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: like higher learning. Remember when the white dude he was
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: mad cool and then he had a couple of bad
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: experiences or whatever, and the next thing you know, he
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: was a skinhead.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: But he really wasn't a skinhead.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: He was just really fucking misunderstood and this he just
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: was around that bash. That's what a lot of these
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: women online are and niggas, I will, let's not even
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: gender that up.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Let me clean that up.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: These in cel niggas is doing the same ship and
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: they're on their call of duty talking about these the
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: lack of word bitches, the bitches while they playing call
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: of duty with each other off the PlayStation. Yeah, because
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: they don't have no other attention.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: The conversation is so dangerous because you're all sitting around
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: saying black men's up, and then me and my girlfriends
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: we getting on the bone sand.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: These niggas ain't ship, you know.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: So now there's no good energy involved with straight man,
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: and it's like, damn.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: Y'all don't even get a chance to be good.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: But y'all went to the ku klutch clan. Oh, that's
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: the part that was sending.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: That's fucking insane. You hate yourself, you hate yourself.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: No, it's her, it's her pondering.
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: Like, yo, if if there was only some system where
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: these people could just take these people up.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Since you set up society, you know, since y'all do,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: what the fuck this has to be?
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: This had to be a prince.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: We need fathers.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: We need fathers seriously.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: And active communication with these people with these fathers, not
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: just you know, birth and he's around, but literally like
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: real dad, real dad, read that actually like work and
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: contribute to it, like on the community boards, and actually
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: like understand the way of the world. Are a lot
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: of people out there that you can say is a father,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: but doesn't mean a good influence.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: M hm, damn, you need education. Wherever am I going
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: with this now?
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Trump Department of I'm just bouncing around right to your time.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: You're good.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: He's around, bouncing around.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Bounce about that you really was thinking about me bouncing around.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Said, thinking about how whole bouncing around.
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: Really was really was thinking about me naked bouncing say
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: nothing about.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: Na Why you had to say naked.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Nakedly? But he thought sucking somebody you bounceing about bouncing.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: You shouldn't be bouncing evening. You shouldn't be bounced.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Bro, it's so much nine o'clock.
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: You don't say bouncing to me, bro, Bro, cancerous.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Black men over there.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: Where you're getting naked from somebody?
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I said, Oh, I was talking about cancers in the community.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Except the Stallion.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they love the mag Stallion. They love mag the
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: Stallion and no music. They love mag Stallion.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Love her so much. We will not support her.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: Bad sixty thousand cells.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: You see water Road and the women earn more than
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: men now, like yare Oh.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Y'all, don't play about Meg. That's amazing, that's amazing.
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: I talked about it on here, right, But like on
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: my show on social I never talk about Meg because
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: it's just not worth the It's not worth it, especially
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: being a girl.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: But I can't on here or whatever. I was cool.
• 45:28
  Speaker 9: I was cool.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't say nothing. We're gonna grab that. Don't worry.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: We'll have seen that. You editing right.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Trump DJ moves to reinstate the firing squad for federal executions.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: The Justice Department announced Friday that is reinstating the firing
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: squad as a method of federal execution, expanding lethal injection protocols,
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: and fast tracking death penalty cases under the Trump administration.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: I'm not with this shit.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: I just wonder what Trump privately floated bringing back firing squads, hangings.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: And even not hangings.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: And even guillatines, and discussed creating a video campaign to
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: celebrate the return of more brutal methods.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: What's guillatine?
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: We put the head in that wooden thing?
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: And oh my god, wow wow.
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: I feel like he said this on his first term
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: though about the Yeah, like that. I feel like he
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: just be saying ship and they just be like.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Yo, no, But he's doing it now.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: So I got a question.
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: So before it is it was only lethal injection, and
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: now he bought all this old.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Stuff thrones types.
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: Wow, he said about like people in this first administration, right,
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: he was like, Yo, they need to be on the
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: firing squad or something like that.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Like what was that? It's not in them?
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: Right, that first batch of people he said, He said
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: that they need to be hung and all that.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: What good does it do?
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: What what good do we get out?
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: If I were to answer, and.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: In his brain thought process, it.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: Would be a deterrent to crime. So you know he's
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: running on the law and order, you know, type of
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: type of platform, so it's a deterrent.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I would think.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: That's sick. Well, I don't believe in a death penalty
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Neither.
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think America should have the right to
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: kill somebody, and especially most people who are on death
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: road didn't even do it.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: That's fucked up.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Are you a capitalist?
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: Am I a capitalist? Don't you have to be? Living
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: in America? I don't know.
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: That's such a scary conversation capitalism.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know. People get mad at Beyonce and jay
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: Z like every day for that ship.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: I need.
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: I need money. I like to do ship and I
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: love to make money. So does that make me a capitalist?
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: Even if you don't, Even if you just have a
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: regular whatever you consider regular job and you make money
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: your extreme your work for some capital, you are a capitalist.
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: Like you said, if you live in a capitalist society,
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: you are a capitalist. The only people that are not
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: capitalists are if you completely off the grid, if you
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: chose the other pill on the matrix you like, I'm
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: not with the shit. I'm a Rastafarian. I'm living off
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: the land. I got my tent set up and I'm
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: living off of both juices and berries.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Mouth said that you are surviving capitalism because you are
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: a product. You were born into it, and now you
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: have to do these things to survive. You are not
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: taking advantage of it and taking advantage of people. So
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: that doesn't make you an active capitalist until you have
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: gotten to the point where you are unethically moving.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: In order to be part of the one percent.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Right, once you get to a certain point, you're supposed
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: to per mouse and democratic socialism. You're supposed to be
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: giving back into the community and not hoarding resources.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I want to hoard resources.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm I'm a landlord. I'm a landlord right now.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: So some people will say, I'm that's capitalism, right.
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: If you are participating in the capitalist structure, you are
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: a part of it. You are capitalist. You can always
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: check yourself out and if you want, if you really
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: want to live off the grid and not participate, it's
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: like that you labeled it purpose.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: It's semantics. I want to be a capitalist.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: I aspire to know, but you know, but I want
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: to capitalize over other people.
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: But you don't want them to not be paid.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: I will pay you as little as I can to
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: get what I need.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Done, as little as you legally can.
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: But there's like kids in different countries making like one cent,
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: or like slaves in different countries.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: There's you know what I'm saying, make an these phones
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: and things.
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: But what people say is that that's the issue with capitalism,
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: is that there are some people down at the bottom
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: who are slaves and not making nothing for you to
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: have billions.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: It's the issue. I agreed.
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you can be a capitalist and it's still be fair.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: I can pay you a fair wage and I can
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: make a fair profit and.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: We could both be and everybody's happy.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: I don't have to take advantage of you to be successful.
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: Or to be a millionaire, or you're taking advantage of
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: people who is if you are, if you have a product,
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: right yeah, and you make a million dollars a day
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: off of it, right, somebody below you that's actually making
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: this shit, it's not making a good percentage of that
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: million dollars.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: They're getting paid a fair wage, but you're making a million.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of like nigga, you know that you
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: could be paying them more so that they can live
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: a good life, and you still making a good profit.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: So that like, once it gets to a point where
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: like they're making like one percent and you're making ninety
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: nine percent, that you're being a capitalist.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: That's about value. You have to bring a certain amount
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: of value to the table. If you're just somebody on
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: an assembly line adding something to a widget, you can't
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: be like, oh, but you made a billion dollars, so
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: I need a higher pay. You're not doing anything that
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: requires me to pay you more than what a fair
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: wages for what you are doing. It's not about you
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: can't pocket watch.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Why are you able to label that a fair wage.
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: Because I mean, there are certain things that can be
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: considered a standard.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: With standard within is not a good standard. That's what
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: they're saying. The standard is not a good saying it.
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think that I think in your head
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: you're thinking of like working in a Nike factory for
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: a dollar an hour. I'm thinking more along the lines
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: of just most normal jobs, and even minimum wage is
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: set at a rate that keeps rising to keep up
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: with inflation and the cost of living. If you're paying
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: well above that, and there's usually a range of income
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: that you would make for any given service that you
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: provide when you're in that that's a fair wage, you know.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: What I mean.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: It's like, it's not it's not intention on how much
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: money I'm making because as an entrepreneur, if I'm taking
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: a loss, are you taking a loss with me? Are
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: we having that conversation?
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: That's real?
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's real as fun businesses fan, have a nice
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: shirt on today.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Beyonce.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Is it Jack if you knew that there were slaves somewhere?
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: It's just the way it is. It's just the way
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I know for a fact making right now, we know,
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: yeah you were.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: Still we do. We're fucked up. We're fucked We're in it.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: We're too deep in it.
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: So what you're saying is which I agree with you,
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: Like I said, I'm a landlord. That people act like
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: landlords are the worst people in the world, you know
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Like, I'm a landlord at the end
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: of the day, So I can't say that I'm not
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: a capitalist.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: Like capitalism is capitalism. Dlords on bad. Slumlords are bad,
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Right every level? Right, Well, that's not right level.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: What they say is why are you charging for a
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: basic human need because I'm being charged for.
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: Me because I'm providing something of use for you, and
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: we're going to agree on the price. It works for you,
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: it works for me. It's the standard. I'm not priced gouging.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: It's fair.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Mhm.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm good with that part. I could argue with,
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: but I don't agree with it, so I don't want
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: to argue. I don't want to go that far into
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: my devil's advocate, right, it's like that, fuck y'all. You
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: don't have nothing, period, y'all mad at everybody that hash.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about that.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: And a lot of y'all motherfuckers. The people that are
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: representing your cause are hypocrites.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: Come on and lie to you.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: The doctor Umar is charging everybody to talk.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: He's not trying to just educate people for free because
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: he believes in that. He's charging everybody to talk. This
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: is a business.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: He's capitalizing off of your need to see him talk.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Damn, I don't want to do this. I skipped something.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: I saw a video of a guy and a girl
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: arguing on the train. It got pretty brutal.
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: Was the girl standing up?
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know her phone was recording. Okay, okay, I
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: like to see it.
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: I've seen a video of a girl standing up talking
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: to this man sitting on the train. I didn't know
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: if that's what you was talking about.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Look at this video.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: Who's sir?
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: He actually like he has a brother. Shuck shuck whir
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: I dig I did, But he does not have a
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: bun a lot of steak like that.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: I can't suthing to right from the trade. Hey, bro,
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: shut on, y'all, last, shut up up, home, shut hi
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: your dad, fire fire dads?
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: What you want to do?
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: What he's looking to a female?
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: Right now?
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: You're a pooz on? Look at you like you're a mom.
• 55:36
  Speaker 9: What's a little the can's a pray?
• 55:37
  Speaker 12: What?
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: Then you go away? You're ready. You're ugly. You're ugly.
• 55:42
  Speaker 9: Look at you.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: You must be a faggot. Fucking you must be a
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: fag of You must be a fagging. Right, you must
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: be a faggot. I'm jake fagg a suck like day fagging,
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: something like dang fagging, something like.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: The girl your mom stand to your pitch?
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: Oh, hold on, before I get this, did she beat
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: him up?
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: I just want you to notice this guy right here,
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: right You see that guy right there, right, You see
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: him right there right, he's just chilling, right. I don't
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: know why he's wearing a mask with no sleeves on
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: the train.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: He built his ship, right.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: He built like a mother for all that shirt is
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: making him look that way one or the other.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: But we will see him sooner than later. They're fighting now,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: they're fighting him and the the girl in there. Then
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: funk out of here.
• 56:59
  Speaker 13: Somebody picked the performed. I will put this video in
• 57:08
  Speaker 13: the pat.
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: YEA good, That's what I'm saying.
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm Those are the black man I be around.
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: That's exactly what I'm talking about.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: What you thought?
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: What do y'all think about this video?
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, I hated that that happened, but I loved it.
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: The guy came and saved today.
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: You know, videos like that make me very happy to
• 57:50
  Speaker 7: be from New York. I know y'all say whatever y'all say,
• 57:52
  Speaker 7: but I love that our city has the ability for that,
• 57:57
  Speaker 7: right because you know, it's crazy people. There's always those
• 57:59
  Speaker 7: types of people. But you just can't do shit like
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: that because somebody, the right person is gonna see and
• 58:06
  Speaker 7: have something to say about that. So I do appreciate
• 58:09
  Speaker 7: that we do have people it no matter what they
• 58:10
  Speaker 7: could been. They could have been white, Spanish, anybody. Certain
• 58:13
  Speaker 7: people are just not gonna let certain shit like that happen,
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: and I appreciate that.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this video is problematic, precurly, they just walk that down.
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: Just walk it down for one. I mean, let's start
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: at the very end. A man should never he spit
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: on her. No, she spit on him, or she spit
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: on him. I thought he spent on her.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: She started and then he spit back on home. Was like,
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: wait a minute, but that's not enough. You just spit
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: on me. Wow, and then he stole on it.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: So it should have never got to that point. He
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: should not.
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: First of all, you shouldn't be talking to no woman aggressively,
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: acting like you got a weapon on you or not.
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: Just there's no reason to talk to aggressively at that point,
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: like you trying to imply that this could get physical.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: We also don't know what happened prior to her recording.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: She could be dead wrong because she doesn't sound innocent
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: in this at all. She's instigating, she's agitating, she's dropping
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: f bombs. She's clearly not letting cooler heads prevail. And
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: at some point, if you listen, if you're in a
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: potential confrontation with somebody that could get the best the
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: better of you, if they're like a man and you're
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: a woman, or somebody that's physically bigger than you, like
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: at some point walk away while you agitate him, talk
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: about how ugly he is, and this, that and the
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: third like it's just not safe to do that, you
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: know what I mean?
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: She told the nigga fire.
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: I would say that she didn't she didn't deserve any
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: of this, but she did not diffuse the situation, and
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: she definitely could have.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: She probably she ass deserves she he asked for it.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: Again, we didn't see what happened before the camera started over.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: I we didn't see who instigated the the the initial nigga.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: If a nigga's acting like he has a gun, why
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: do women? Why are woman so lawless? Why can't they?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Nobody can't check this, nigga. If I got a gun,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: you're gonna tell me to shoot you. I'm obviously not
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: in my right mind. I'm obviously an abuser. I'm obviously
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: a nigga that don't give a fuck about nothing.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: And you don't care, don't play with people, especially on
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: the train, and I don't know what people going through.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: But also he didn't know what she was going through though,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: But again.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: She appears to be their aggressor in this situation.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: I think so I was thinking the man grabbing his
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: fake gun.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: But again when missing part.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: The only reason why I say that is because of
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: the way that she unnecessarily started agitating this man and
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: started pointing out his how he looks, and this that
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: and the third like it just seemed like and then
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: dropping the F bombs. It just seemed like you were
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: not the responsible person in this exchange. Not that he
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: was either, but if I had to put some money
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: on it, I would say that she might have started.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: I think the video started too late.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: And then and then now you tell me that she
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: spit on him, So now you're the one.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: That made Yeah, that's crazy.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean he is like, he's acting like he
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 7: has a gun, Like, what could she happen?
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: As soon as started she was Yeah, he was threatening her.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: Now I do I agree with that, but I do
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 7: think it says it says something about where our women
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 7: are in this city. To feel like the fact that
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 7: she told him to fire. That should tell us everything
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: that we need to know about the environment that we
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: and then spin on him, and then spin on him.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 7: She said, Nigga fired the ship and thankfully for her,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 7: she called his bluff.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 7: And it's like, that's kind of how you you know,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 7: you have to do something in the city, right, You
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 7: can't just cower and you know, let it happen. You
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 7: kind of you kind of have to go off offensive,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: even though you know I agree with.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: That, Like you could talk back, you could you could
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: stand your ground, you could talk your shit and all
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: of that, but at some point now you're escalating it.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: You're not talking back, you're not being defensive. You're on
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: the offense. The way that she was approaching it and
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: the way that she was saying things to him that
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: was completely unnecessary, antagonizing him, completely unnecessary. You're escalating the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: situation at this point, Like, Okay, you could defend yourself,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: you can stand your ground, like yo, I ain't no punk.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: You ain't gonna just do or say whatever you want
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: to me while I'm on this train. It's all right
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: to stand your ground, talk back, but at some point
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: now you are the aggressor, and you are agitating, and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: you are making the situation escalate further than the need do.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: I'm also glad that the dudees there, because right or wrong,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: I'm not you put hands on a woman, you gotta
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: get yoked up?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Why you laugh?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: Because what is wrong with you? You want to see
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: the lady get her asy?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: No, the phone was down, We didn't see any of that.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: But I don't like women that do that and put
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: other niggas into this because it's different. If dude right,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: the dude is obviously out of his fucking mind, and
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: obviously the other nigga was waiting for him, right.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: But you still kept it going. You went up like
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: the argument was enough.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: You could have walked the way down the as, you
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: could have got off the next stop, changed cars. And
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: obviously that doesn't make her the problem because she's at
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: this place, but you kept going up. You call the faggot,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: you ugly, you are bum. Then you spent on a
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: nigga that's telling you I got a gun and I'll
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: shoot you and kill you. So now somebody else has
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: to come in and risk their life.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: To help you.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Because I've seen situations like this where the nigga don't
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: back out this ship because he knows if I back out,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: So he don't do it.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: But he's still going crazy with you y' and y'all
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: get into a physical confrontation and now the nigga backs
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: it out and hammers everybody down around right, this.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Could have happened.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't like that a nigga out there
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: this probably has this kind of nigga probably taking care
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: of his kids. I don't know what type of dad
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: you are. If you're walking around with a hoodie with
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: no sleeves on.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Stop, he could have been working.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 6: He looked like he got just once in the gym,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: like that's the only place you could.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: Wear a hoodie. Like yoke up too, like that he
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: can tell, you can tell that it works.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: He's talking to him in his ear, you're going to sleep,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: You're going to sleep. And we told him, I'm telling
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: you in the video you hear him. You hear him
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: before they show it that he's telling them you're going
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: to sleep now. So yeah, you might sound right, but
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: I just feel like women shouldn't be putting men in.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: I agree, but it's like we don't know how Like
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: as soon as you started the video, all I saw
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 6: was this man threatening her with a gun.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: We don't know what happened.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: We do know that.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 6: We do know that instead of her de escalating, I
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: always try to de escalate, you know, Yeah, we do
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 6: know that. But then I think about like my mom,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: Like my mom is as a fighter. She's a black
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, a black woman. Like So,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 6: if but God tried her like that, I know my
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 6: mama would have turned up to you know, yeah, for sure,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: she walking around.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: Wanting to fight people.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you begin to fight.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: Not me. I'm a lady, I'm a friend.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: Side a lady. She is.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 6: She's aggressive, a princess, she's the queen, you know, the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 6: queen gotta be a little more aggressive.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: We have thirty minutes left, y'all. Do y'all have the
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: energy for it?
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm cool if y'all are.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: The forty two is beating me down a little bit,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: I'm good. That one shot yesterday was like that's a lot,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: big dog?
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Time?
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: Nine?
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: Okay? Yesterday?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know. He never wants to be here, that's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: not true.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: So why do you have a problem recording so.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 7: Much, you forget that I'm still at work. I've been
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 7: out the crib since six am yesterday.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: I left here at four o'clock. I'm not trying to
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: hear that.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 7: You've been back here when I came and he was
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 7: laying down on your bed, your bed.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, setting up the show. Hello, I was only
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: doing research for.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 7: The show, laying on your bed, took a dump in
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 7: your toilet.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I'm just saying, why are you even
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: thinking about that? He already had me bouncing now, I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: was thinking about my asshole opening. I had him what's up?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: Bouncing around around?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: He couldn't say anything. He couldn't said anything.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 10: Ship.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: He didn't imagined it.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: It was in his fairy tale.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Man in the fairy tale? So crazy, yo?
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: What the fairy tale is a crazy dream?
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: That is crazy crazy?
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: Hm?
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: Hmmm, Hey, I found out me and the nigga was
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: hitting the same female.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: And we like we wasn't it.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: Wasn't no beef, ship or nothing, were chopping up and
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: ship and we both came to.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: Agreement, like we're not gonna tell th man.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: Why don't call me.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 9: Crying talking about some Did you tell him let me
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 9: do like a through I'm.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 10: Still no, no, no, no, no, I'm doing I'm doing man,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 10: straight up, They'll I ain't shipping play up rock.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 6: Only come to me as a woman if we're gonna
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: leave him together as a team.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 12: Don't come to me as a woman to scare me away.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 9: So you can stay at half and watch yourself. That's
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 9: going it pits me up.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: You're gonna end up having to share him either we're
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: gonna come up on him together, bitch.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 12: Or where sister wives.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: That's interesting, sounds like it sounds interesting, the niggas and
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: the chicks going through it. It's not a man or
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: That's why I'm funny that I came up calling both
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: of these videos at the same time. First of all,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: the nigga was crazy because that other nigga loves Shorty
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: or maybe he did it.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: Maybe it's just it was it was his ego maybe yeah, right,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 6: territory or somebody.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds to.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: Just be an ego. You have a fight for somebody
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: that you don't really care about. Yes, you just don't
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: want them to play you.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, I don't like you that much.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: I just want you to like me, like you like
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 6: that that is sick, Like, how dare you playing me?
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: You not even like you wasn't even on the list
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: like that, but you're playing you.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: Nah, that's ego.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Though I felt that way before.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: I don't know if it's prid of Ego ego, but yeah,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: this is shorty. Clearly were just fucking around. But I
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: found out she was working with somebody that I know,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: and I felt the ways. I'm like, you met him
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: at my party, like you know what I mean, And
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, I just felt the way. I
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: don't know if it's Pride of Eagle. We clearly not
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: have a monogamous situation. I had a lot going on
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: and she called me. She was like, I put up
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: with all of your ship this that. I'm like, right,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: I got a point there, but still still.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: You said you got a point there?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: You did, you said that, but like you really you
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: understood that play?
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Yes a bit. Sorry I'm weaving that. I'm weaving that
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: you knew.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: So what It's still a personal decision. And I was like,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 5: you know, I have to keep that arm blunt from
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: there just for me. It's like, in mind, how'd you
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: deal with that?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: How what I deal with I'm making sure we're on
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: the same page.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 6: It's just a friend of mine or no, just somebody
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 6: you know or whatever situation. Yeah, just somebody I know,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 6: like this fucking me and another or what? Like, what's
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 6: the scenario, So you have a dude that you fucking with?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: You just entertaining. You ain't taking that serious?
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: Okay? Are we having sex?
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Absolutely? Okay, consistently.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: If I'm having sex consistently, I'm taking it serious.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: But go ahead. Yeah, how are you not my husband? Like,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: what are we talking about?
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah? But okay, you haven't said.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: But then you find out he's messing with somebody else,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: You and the person talk and you come to her
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: as a woman.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, talk, yes, and she keeps talking with you, nigga.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's nothing I can do about it.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: That's out of my hands. Yeah, with your husband.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 6: But that's what I'm That's what I'm saying. I would
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: never be in that position. And that's to say never.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be in that position because he.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: Comes to you as a woman.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: What do you say, Okay, another girl comes to me
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: as a woman.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: It depends.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: I mean, if he's if he's lying and cheating, is
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 6: that what he's doing.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if he's lying and.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Cheating, cheating, you just sucking him together.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: But that's what that's what I'm saying.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: Okay, So if I'm single, which yeah, I'm single, we
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 6: having casual sex. He's fucking somebody else and she comes
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: to me as a woman.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: I think that's a messy. I think that's messy. I
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 6: think that would turn me off if I wasn't necessary.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 6: But if you really like this, dick, I don't like
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 6: any dig more than I like myself.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: I never have. I really like myself.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: So yeah, what if it was schedule?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: But you thought that y'all were monogamous? That was a
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: conversation that.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: That's stupid at that point, Why y'all not girlfriend and boyfriend?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing, that's what I'm in the monogamous place.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: Remember she said monogamy means relationship exclusively dating. To me,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: it doesn't even make sense. What is that?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: That was my last situation?
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: You was doing that?
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 6: Well, he that's what he was, you know, That's what
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 6: he was saying, like, oh, well, we're not fucking other people?
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: Like okay, so what are we though? So right right, like,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: stop playing with me? What the fuck. So what your
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 6: What he's really saying is you don't want me to
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 6: fuck nobody else, but you don't want to give me
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: a title so you can fuck other people. But you
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 6: want to keep me in this box so that I don't.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: Fuck with other people. How about you get to funk
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: out my face? Yeah. I stopped talking to him, No way.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: I swear to God, I'm not talking to that man
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: no more. We talked for six months. That was my
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: last situation and.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Him saying, I want to be exclusively exclusive in.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: Dating because it doesn't make that's stupid.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 6: You want me to not fuck other people, but you
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 6: don't want to be my man.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: Did you like him a lot? I really like you
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: let him go? Yes? What's I'm a gemini?
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: Did you say, al.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 6: I like myself, you ain't gonna play with me.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: You ain't gonna play with me? That's you don't think
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: that's manipulative?
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, it doesn't have to be. So here's the thing.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: I've never done this, but I've heard this before with
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: people We're not in a relationship, but they wanted to
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: be exclusive with a sexual partner. Because once you take
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: the rubber off, it's like, yo, I don't want you
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: to have multiple sexual partners if we are having unprotected sex.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 5: So I can understand that, and we want to be free.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 5: You want to know that you're and your partner safe,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: but you may not want all the other ship that
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: comes with a relationships. The other ship that comes with
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: relationship is responsibilities.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: Are we got that if we have? If we fucking wrong,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: you have that, you still have?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: I hate that, Like, we still have responsibilities, we still
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: have expectations, we still have boundary responsibilities. We might as
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 6: well be a have all the relationships, but we still
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 6: got to deal with my emotions.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: What if you are fresh out of a situation, You're like, yo,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: I just don't have the mental capacity to.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: Give be single for real? Leave me alone, go be single.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that. Yesterday I hear you over there
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: moaning what happened, and I'm.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 7: Like, because I think what you're saying is right, but
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 7: just think in real life. I just don't think that
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 7: happens as much in real life.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: Mean to be it doesn't neither. That don't make it
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: right for that?
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: So you letting him go? After that?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 6: I stopped talking to him. What are we talking about? Yes,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 6: I really do like.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: Sex, all right, because you talk about sex.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: I enjoy having sex.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: But a lot of people that talk about sex is
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: like that's the thing they platform but in the personal
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: like because it sounds you have a lot of discipline,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: you have a lot of you let somebody go that
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: you was talking.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: To for six months. Yeah, that he said I want
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: to exclusively date you, and you felt.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: Like he didn't say that. Let's be clear.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 6: Remember we were talking about man and communication and that
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 6: emotional conversation. That was not a he didn't say that
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 6: because we nothing. He just was moving funny And when
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: I hit you with the you know what I'm saying?
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: What are we?
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Like you you know what
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: I want? So what's t what?
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: You try to force him into a relationship?
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: Fuck him?
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: What are we?
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 9: Is?
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: Forcing me into relationship?
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: Well now now I'm forcing you with me?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: No more forcing a conversation.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: Thank you?
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: Going different ways after that? Do you agree with what
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: are we? I mean it has it's a conversation. We
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: adults here. We got to ask something, what do you.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: Want me to do?
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: Where?
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: What do you want me to do?
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: I think I would date somebody else and let him
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: ask like, oh, what you're doing and I'm on a date.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: That's what I would probably expect. I would tell my
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: daughter to do that. I wouldn't tell him to say
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: what are we It sounds very weak from from a
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: women's side, I would probably be like, I'm on a
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: date and then let him get mad and be like, well,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: we never discussed and we're dating for six months, so
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: you know we're doing a lot, but there's no commitment.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: So I didn't know that I was beholding to that.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: I need a man to want to be with me.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: It's a priority for him. Other than that we can chill.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: I'm cool with her, can be cool. I'm not messing
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: with anybody that's there.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: Now you're lying, that's there's game plan.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: So if you if you don't don't have any intentions, desires,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: or wants to date other people, and you're just gonna
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: respond to say that I'm on the date, that's being manipulative.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: Like manipulative, yes, but.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: I really wasn't. That's not determined. I was, But I'm
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: dating somebody.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: I want to be exclusive for somebody. Why do you
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: want to date with?
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: Because women don't dictate relationships, right, that's why they don't.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: No matter, I don't care how you put it. A
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: dude is going to treat a person his special one.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: He's gonna treat her that way. If he doesn't, he doesn't.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: And sometimes this is going to sound sucked up.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: Sometimes she can manipulate him into realizing that she's like,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: way more important than he's been treating her. He needs
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you you want, you want to give us a
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: pussy and all that.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: Niggas start treating them regular, and she needs to look.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Oh you think I'm regular? Oh?
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: I because I thought you were special. That's why I
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: gave you some pussy. But you're treating me like I'm regular?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: All right, no problem, I thank you.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: I'm humble. That's cool. You got me. I'm gonna go
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: over here, you said, I call her and be like
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: where you at? Oh, somebody's treating me special? Why? And
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: let him deal with that?
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: So you promoting game playing and posturing and positioning.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, the niggas don't like that. His niggas don't like that.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: When the niggas don't like it, because niggas.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: But I'm like, yo, no, I don't have time for that.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: I'm very emotional. I'm a gemini. I say what it is.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: I don't have time for that. Nigga. I like you.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Adults were doing. What the is we doing?
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: What the fuck is we doing?
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 6: No, exactly, I'm single because I add this niggas, what
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 6: the fuck is we doing? I would rather be single
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: and fuck around with a nigga who does not appreciate me,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 6: who doesn't you know what I'm saying, appreciate what I want?
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: That stupid.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: So when I say what I say real quick, I'm
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: gonna let you. I just don't want you to think
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to insult you. I don't think what I'm
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: saying is that approach doesn't work. Niggas egos when they
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: once you, you feed the ego that's already winning. They
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: don't give you back. There's no give back. There's no
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: like qu pon to the nigga's heart. No, that doesn't work.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: You have to show the nigga who he is in
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: the mirror, like nigga, I see you, please, well just.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: Leave, don't do all that back and forth. I feel
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: like that was the biggest mistake I made, was asking how.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: About you just dump them?
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: I agree, you should ask me Yeah, what.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: If she asked the question and the dude just happened
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: to be on the same page as her and he
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: wants to be exclusive and being a relationship. He's at
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: that point, it's been six months, we vibing. I'm ready
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: to make that next step. You just happen to bring
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: it up before I bought it up. What's wrong with that?
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: At least she knows, all right, I got somebody I'm
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: on the same wavelength with. If you don't ask the question,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: you just it's just up in the air.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: I think men are too boyish for the most part,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: and I don't think that we lead as much as
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: we say we do.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: We would.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: I think that if she was to say that, because
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: he doesn't want to lose his situation. He don't want
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: another nigga fucking her. You don't see her fuck faces.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: He don't want another nigga to see those fuck faces.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: He will fall into a relationship that he's not serious about.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: He will just do it to keep her.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: Because I said this earlier, a lot of times niggas
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: wind up in a relationship because they don't know how
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: to tell the truth about how they feel. And so
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: what I would do personally, Yes, I would play games
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: if I was women. If I'm not telling women to
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: play games and that nationally, but I'm saying, if I
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: wish y'all, that's what I would do.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: But are we going to get the desired results? So
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: you played a game, I'm always gonna get the desiras
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 5: you act like you're on a date with somebody, as
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 5: you know if you were the woman, that's what you're
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: advising your daughter. And then it kicks a emotion and
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: emotional response from the man, and now he steps his
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 5: game up.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: That don't mean he's ready to be in a relationship.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: He's just have an emotional response to to your manipulation. Agree,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: at some.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: Point you want to have somebody that has the discernment
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: to decide whether they are ready for this or not.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: And that's a conversation. We got to be adults here.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to trick you into it. It's you
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: think men are adults. At what point are you an
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: adult as a man?
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: For real?
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: My mom said sixty. She said, don't take a man
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 6: serious until hey, sixty years old.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: At what point are you seriously?
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: Come on, let's talk about that, away from away from
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: just losing her away from just losing her and letting
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: her fuck on. Another nigga down the block with more money,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: got the Rolex, and you still wear an Apple Watch.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: At what point are you really ready to have a
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: real conversation with her about your feelings and your intentions.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: What age?
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: There's no specific age. I know some young men that
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: have to head on straight and handle things responsibly. I
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: would say, for the most part, you gotta be five
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: and for most men before they really start to be
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: mature and move with discernment.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: For the most thirty five and up is crazy.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: Obviously, there's outlieres to that, you know what I mean?
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: I stay closer to forty in the same ballpark, same ballpark.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: You're good, youngster.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 6: Well, I'm definitely always going to speak up and speak
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 6: my mind and say what I want for you.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm happy. I'm not in a miserable relationship.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 6: I'm not dealing with somebody who, you know what I'm saying,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 6: I don't want to be with.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I respect that it has worked for you. Yeah,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: thanks so for you.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: Because trauma is right, manipulating a person into.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: A situation, I mean, that's not doing good for nobody's
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: that's not.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: That's that's that's horrible. So trauma is actually right on
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: this one.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: I tried.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: He's so like, he's just so like there. Yeah, he's
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: he's there. That church really did. Yeah, No, you're definitely
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: locked in for sure.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, I think we've had a great day
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: today again in money. Your brain is amazing and we
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: can't wait to see you on Broadway.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: Thank you for saying, thank you for saying.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: I think that you really I think I can see it.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: And so what have you been in?
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: Thank you? I've been in Waitress? Have you ever heard
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: of a Broadway show called Waitress?
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 6: I played Nurse Norma and a show I've been in
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 6: Harrispray Little, I've.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: Done Wizard of Oz. I've been Dorothy before. Yeah.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 6: One of my favorite roles ever was a show called
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 6: Don't Let the Pigeon Drive the Bus.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: It's a kids show. I was the bus driver.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 6: But that was one of my favorite shows I've ever done.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I got a couple of dream roles that
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: are on Broadway right now.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: So thank y'all so much.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: Do you talk for your if ray?
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah? From my pussy, all right, yeah, this is gonna
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: be funny. I hope. So I can I do Heart
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: a song? When do you do Heart? Leave Tuesday?
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: I think we do it Monday this week to check.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, okay, so quick funny story.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 6: When I was seventeen, my vocal chords got sucked up
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 6: and so like I almost had to get surgery on
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 6: my vocal cords, and so I had to learn how
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 6: to talk pretty much how the health and they say,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 6: like literally talk through your vajona. So I was being
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: serious when I said that I never heard that singing
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: you like.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: I want to cancel. Marke said, guy need that. I
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: don't even know who.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: Make sure y'all listen to Lick the Wrapper podcasts.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: This episode has finally come to it, and I know
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: you're gonna.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: Be like your toil who was on bullshit the whole time.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: I planned that, but I think we did a great
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: job today.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: It's been a month this niggas going for I see
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: what's happening. And now listen. You know that Queen Black
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: Parties is coming back.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: Queen. No, yeah, you could tell. You could say so shameless, shame, grounded.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: Why did you do that I'm not my lady talked
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: bad about that alone,