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- 0:04Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here, welcome back to Killers amongst Us,
- 0:08Speaker 1: a production of iHeartMedia and Crime Online. You know, when
- 0:13Speaker 1: you see people on TV or you hear them on
- 0:16Speaker 1: the radio, you wonder who are these people, what's going
- 0:19Speaker 1: on in their real life? Who are they really? Especially
- 0:24Speaker 1: with big stars and politicians. Politicians taking very strong opinions
- 0:31Speaker 1: to get elected, but then they're stuck with those strong opinions,
- 0:35Speaker 1: and opinions make enemies. You're either loved or you're hated,
- 0:41Speaker 1: And sadly a lot of politicians are hated, even though
- 0:45Speaker 1: many of them are trying to do the right thing.
- 0:49Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Killers amongst Us. The fifty
- 0:56Speaker 1: seven year old mother was elected to the States Senate
- 0:59Speaker 1: as a Republican in twenty fourteen. I need your vote,
- 1:02Speaker 1: Lendas one of those people that couldn't it be bought, uncorruptible,
- 1:06Speaker 1: that wanted to tell people that badge stuff was happening
- 1:10Speaker 1: at the capitol. Ken Yang was Collins's communication director. He
- 1:13Speaker 1: says O'Donnell worked on Collins's reelection campaign. They were good friends.
- 1:18Speaker 1: They traveled together then did grassroots stuff. You were hearing
- 1:22Speaker 1: our friends at CBS this morning talking about this ball
- 1:27Speaker 1: of fire Senator Linda Collins Smith, who really takes politics
- 1:34Speaker 1: by storm, and what a story from ranks to riches.
- 1:38Speaker 1: This young girl who grew up on a gravel road
- 1:42Speaker 1: with no running water until she was in high school,
- 1:46Speaker 1: somehow manages to claw her way up, get an education,
- 1:51Speaker 1: make a living, and then take on politics. And she succeeded.
- 1:58Speaker 1: She was at success in so many ways, but unlucky
- 2:02Speaker 1: in love. As you heard. Her first marriage ended when
- 2:06Speaker 1: her husband claimed disability and wanted her to quit work
- 2:09Speaker 1: and stay home and live off the government. Well, that
- 2:11Speaker 1: did not sit well with Linda Collins Smith. That marriage
- 2:16Speaker 1: ended in divorce. But then along comes Prince Charming. Philip
- 2:21Speaker 1: Smith's background was similar to Linda Collins. His father was
- 2:24Speaker 1: the manager of a dime store and a Baptist minister
- 2:26Speaker 1: in Pocahona's, Arkansas. Smith served in the army from nineteen
- 2:29Speaker 1: seventy two to nineteen seventy five. After leaving the army,
- 2:32Speaker 1: he entered college and worked as a journalist for the
- 2:34Speaker 1: jonesborough Son and the Arkansas Democrat. Smith earned his law
- 2:38Speaker 1: degree from the University of Arkansas Little Rock in nineteen
- 2:41Speaker 1: seventy nine and for the next twenty two years put
- 2:43Speaker 1: his degree to use. Smith was a municipal judge in
- 2:46Speaker 1: the city of Pocahonnas and Randolph County for nine years.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Then in two thousand and one, Governor Mike Huckabee appointed
- 2:52Speaker 1: Smith as the Division two Judge of the Third Circuit
- 2:55Speaker 1: Court of Arkansas. He retired from the bench in December
- 2:58Speaker 1: of twenty seventeen. Likes Phil Smith was also a businessman,
- 3:02Speaker 1: owning several properties, including the hotel that he and Lynda operated,
- 3:06Speaker 1: The Day's Inn and Suites in Bocahannas. So along comes
- 3:09Speaker 1: Prince Charming, a lawyer, a judge, a businessperson to help
- 3:13Speaker 1: her pick up the pieces of her love life and
- 3:16Speaker 1: accepting her two children. With Me an all star panel
- 3:21Speaker 1: to break it down and put it back together and again.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Welcome to Killers amongst Us with Me Crime online dot
- 3:27Speaker 1: com investigative reporter Levi Page, expert in online activity, private
- 3:33Speaker 1: investigator Derek Ellington and Ellington dot Net Professor Forensics, Jacksonville
- 3:38Speaker 1: State University. Author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon
- 3:42Speaker 1: and start of a brand new series on the True
- 3:44Speaker 1: Crime Network Poisonous. Liaison's Joseph Scott Morgan, renowned psychiatrists joining
- 3:50Speaker 1: us out of the Atlanta jurisdiction. Doctor Angela Arnold at
- 3:53Speaker 1: Angela Arnold MD dot com, judge, trial lawyer, court TV
- 3:58Speaker 1: anchor Ashley will Wilcott at Ashley Wilcot dot com. Special
- 4:03Speaker 1: guests joining us former Press Secretary for Linda Collins, Smith
- 4:08Speaker 1: Ken Yang, and Senator Missy Irvin, Arkansas State senator, longtime
- 4:16Speaker 1: friend of Linda Collins. Senator ken Yang, other guests, thank
- 4:22Speaker 1: you for being with us, you know, Senator Irvin, it
- 4:25Speaker 1: just strikes me how this woman, this beautiful blonde with
- 4:29Speaker 1: the big blue eyes, managed to storm up in the
- 4:33Speaker 1: State Assembly and take on a lot of very tough topics.
- 4:37Speaker 1: And you know what, when you do that, you make enemies. Yes,
- 4:39Speaker 1: you're exactly right, you do, and you're going to fight
- 4:43Speaker 1: for what you believe in. And there's nobody else that
- 4:46Speaker 1: really fought for what she believed in like Linda did
- 4:49Speaker 1: in her own way. Linda and I knew each other
- 4:53Speaker 1: and met in two thousand and ten. We were both
- 4:56Speaker 1: running for I was running for state Senate and she
- 4:59Speaker 1: was running for state representative at that time. And she
- 5:03Speaker 1: was big, she was bold. She's little and petite, but
- 5:06Speaker 1: her ideas and her expressions were big and bold, and
- 5:12Speaker 1: she was a qual of fier and you didn't forget her.
- 5:24Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask you to comment, Senator Missy
- 5:26Speaker 1: IRV and our special guest today, Arkansas State Senator. On
- 5:29Speaker 1: men in general, I will sorry to all you men
- 5:32Speaker 1: on the panel, but to you, doctor Angela Arnold. You
- 5:35Speaker 1: know you're an MD and that is still to this
- 5:39Speaker 1: day mell dominated, although it's changing so rapidly. As a
- 5:44Speaker 1: criminal prosecutor, I can tell you there were many times
- 5:46Speaker 1: I looked around the court room and I was the
- 5:48Speaker 1: only woman in there. Of course, to me, that was
- 5:50Speaker 1: like shooting a fish in a barrel. But that said,
- 5:54Speaker 1: why do men gets so powed when women succeed? What's
- 5:58Speaker 1: the problem. I think that the men who do get
- 6:01Speaker 1: poed when women succeed have a very low self esteem typically,
- 6:07Speaker 1: and you'll find people that have a very low self
- 6:10Speaker 1: esteem have narcissistic personality disorder, and it's all tied up together. Okay,
- 6:16Speaker 1: So there are very few men in the past that
- 6:19Speaker 1: were I think that men are coming around a little
- 6:22Speaker 1: bit more, but there is a little I said a
- 6:24Speaker 1: little bit more, okay, but there are but very few
- 6:27Speaker 1: men can tolerate being around a successful woman and complaint
- 6:32Speaker 1: with that. You know, I had, Ashley Wilcott. I had
- 6:36Speaker 1: the best example. I'm my dad Mac work for the railroad,
- 6:42Speaker 1: and my mom when he met her. I mean, she
- 6:45Speaker 1: was a bank teller and worked her way up to
- 6:50Speaker 1: working in a payroll for one company and the ultimately
- 6:53Speaker 1: being the CFO of a plant of a fortune five
- 6:57Speaker 1: hundred company. She is no ity it at all. In fact,
- 7:02Speaker 1: she was the only woman in the country that held
- 7:04Speaker 1: that position. Long story short, my dad never complained. I mean,
- 7:11Speaker 1: he pitched in and housework, took care of us when
- 7:14Speaker 1: he wasn't working crazy night shifts. Never a word. I mean,
- 7:18Speaker 1: he just always seemed proud and he always cheered my
- 7:21Speaker 1: sister and my brother and I on to just do
- 7:24Speaker 1: the best we could. And so I was really shocked.
- 7:28Speaker 1: I had never been around men like that, and frankly,
- 7:30Speaker 1: until I got in law school, Ashley Boy law school.
- 7:35Speaker 1: That says it all right, when you get in the
- 7:36Speaker 1: type a competitive that we've all encountered when we went
- 7:39Speaker 1: to law school. So you know, that's the way it
- 7:42Speaker 1: should be. In a perfect world. You should end up
- 7:44Speaker 1: with a person you should be with a person that's
- 7:46Speaker 1: going to support you in your endeavors, whether you're a
- 7:50Speaker 1: type a go after it like she was, or whether
- 7:54Speaker 1: you're going to choose to instead support the husband or
- 7:59Speaker 1: your other spouse while they go out and do those things.
- 8:02Speaker 1: And so in a perfect world, that's exactly what you want,
- 8:05Speaker 1: but we all know we don't live in a perfect
- 8:07Speaker 1: world and a lot of spouses are not that way.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Nancy jump in, I just want to thank you. I
- 8:14Speaker 1: really appreciate the concept question because and the Senate as
- 8:18Speaker 1: a majority is male in the Arkansas State Senate, and
- 8:21Speaker 1: the and the and the legislature, and it is very
- 8:24Speaker 1: difficult at times when you're the only woman and you're
- 8:27Speaker 1: the chair of the committee and you have to lead
- 8:30Speaker 1: it and people are challenging you because you know, quite frankly,
- 8:34Speaker 1: there's you know they I have been the victim of
- 8:37Speaker 1: being bullied many many times in that circumstance or questioned
- 8:41Speaker 1: or my integrity is in question, or you know, what
- 8:45Speaker 1: is her intentions or what are her motives? You know,
- 8:48Speaker 1: and quite frankly, you know, at one point the Arkansas
- 8:51Speaker 1: Democrat is that every single time they would list me
- 8:54Speaker 1: in the newspaper about anything that I would do or
- 8:57Speaker 1: anything I would say. They would say, Senate or miss
- 9:00Speaker 1: the Irvin Comma, whose husband is a doctor? Or who
- 9:05Speaker 1: is the wife of a physician? Every single time. Not
- 9:09Speaker 1: one time did they would they ever say, Senator, you
- 9:14Speaker 1: know bart Hester, who's married to a doctor or an attorney,
- 9:20Speaker 1: or who is the husband of the attorney? Not one time.
- 9:23Speaker 1: And I had one whole entire page the Arkansas Democrat.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Is that where I circled that and pointed that out,
- 9:30Speaker 1: And it was just the legislative briefs from the day
- 9:33Speaker 1: from the session. And I sent it to the editor
- 9:36Speaker 1: and I said, this is wrong that I got here
- 9:39Speaker 1: on my own two feet. I love my husband and
- 9:42Speaker 1: he's been incredibly supportive of me. But I got here
- 9:45Speaker 1: with my own two feet, with the brain that I
- 9:47Speaker 1: have in my head. And I am not identified as
- 9:50Speaker 1: the wife of or I am married too. That does
- 9:54Speaker 1: not define me. I am defined by what I have
- 9:56Speaker 1: achieved on my own and under my title that I
- 9:59Speaker 1: earned earned because I'm the one that worked and I'm
- 10:02Speaker 1: the one that went out there, and I'm the one
- 10:04Speaker 1: that fought for that seat in the Arkansas State Senate,
- 10:07Speaker 1: not my husband, and he supported me, and I love
- 10:10Speaker 1: him greatly, but you know he was offended by it
- 10:13Speaker 1: as well, because he knows me and he's married to me.
- 10:16Speaker 1: But you know, I just say that because there is
- 10:20Speaker 1: it is a difficult world out there, and I just
- 10:22Speaker 1: so much appreciate the fact that you brought that up
- 10:25Speaker 1: and that you are saying that boldly and proudly, and
- 10:28Speaker 1: I had to deal with it. I'm going to be
- 10:30Speaker 1: dealing with that today. In fact, I'm chair of the
- 10:32Speaker 1: Senate Ethics Committee and we have an issue, and I
- 10:35Speaker 1: am the chair of it, and I have to follow
- 10:37Speaker 1: the rules, no matter what I have to do that,
- 10:40Speaker 1: no matter how unpopular that might be. I have to
- 10:44Speaker 1: follow the law, the Constitution, and the rules. And Linda
- 10:48Speaker 1: was that person. She saw things very clearly, and she
- 10:52Speaker 1: was not going to be bullied, and she was not
- 10:54Speaker 1: going to be pushed around, and she was going to
- 10:57Speaker 1: say and she said what she thought and that might
- 11:00Speaker 1: rub people wrong and people might disagree with that, but
- 11:03Speaker 1: I can tell you, you know, you get down here
- 11:06Speaker 1: and you don't just get to do what you want
- 11:08Speaker 1: to do. You have to follow the rules. And sometimes
- 11:12Speaker 1: you've talked about the narcissistic behavior and the type of
- 11:14Speaker 1: personality that's even magnified in a politician. Politicians are narcissistic
- 11:20Speaker 1: in itself, and so you know that and nobody, very
- 11:24Speaker 1: few people say no to them. And so you you
- 11:28Speaker 1: combine that with you know, as they come in, and
- 11:31Speaker 1: then it's even more complicated if they come from the military. Sometimes,
- 11:34Speaker 1: you know, nobody outranks anybody else in that Senate. You know,
- 11:39Speaker 1: just because you're a colonel or a Green Beret, or
- 11:42Speaker 1: an Army ranger or a Navy seal or whatever. That's great, wonderful,
- 11:46Speaker 1: we love you for your service, but when you are
- 11:48Speaker 1: elected into that body, you do not outrank anybody else.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Senator Irvan Well said, thank you. I'm voting for you absolutely.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Senator Missy Irvin, You've just given me a glimpse into
- 12:04Speaker 1: the character of Linda Collins Smith, because you know, the
- 12:08Speaker 1: old anage birds of a feather flock together. Well, Kenny Yang,
- 12:11Speaker 1: jos Got Morgan and Derek Ellington and Levi Page. I
- 12:14Speaker 1: guess you're watching your piece and Q's on this program
- 12:17Speaker 1: because between us, ladies, you know, I think we've got
- 12:22Speaker 1: you out numbered. We're talking about Linda Collins Smith and
- 12:26Speaker 1: what she faced there and the Arkansas Assembly you're hearing
- 12:32Speaker 1: her long time from Missy Irvin, Arkansas State senator speaking out,
- 12:37Speaker 1: and you know she had been unlucky in love. And
- 12:40Speaker 1: then she finally finds this judge, a lawyer. Seemingly everything
- 12:46Speaker 1: checked out just perfectly on his resume. Take a listen
- 12:49Speaker 1: to Dave Matt Crime online. Linda Collins was successful in
- 12:53Speaker 1: real estate and Philip Smith was a successful lawyer and judge.
- 12:56Speaker 1: When they got married, they invested in real estate, and
- 12:58Speaker 1: Philip Smith said Linda was a good businesswoman and very smart.
- 13:02Speaker 1: It was during their marriage that Lynda Collins Smith ran
- 13:05Speaker 1: for political office and one she served in the State
- 13:08Speaker 1: House of Representatives, changed parties from Democrat to Republican, then
- 13:12Speaker 1: ran for the State Senate and one again. Linda Collins
- 13:15Speaker 1: Smith was a conservative politician, a strong voice who didn't
- 13:18Speaker 1: back away from a fight. That was her trademark. Now,
- 13:21Speaker 1: when that's your trademark, translation, you have enemies. But the
- 13:26Speaker 1: new husband stood by her side, not just in politics,
- 13:31Speaker 1: but business too. Listen. During their marriage, Linda Collins Smith
- 13:34Speaker 1: and Philip Smith were also the owner operators of the
- 13:37Speaker 1: days in and Suites of Pocahonas. So, besides Philip Smith
- 13:41Speaker 1: being a circuit judge and Linda Colin Smith serving in
- 13:44Speaker 1: the State House of Representatives. They were busy with businesses
- 13:47Speaker 1: at their home in Pocahonas. Then they decided to open
- 13:51Speaker 1: up a new hotel. They bought a thirty unit unsuccessful motel,
- 13:54Speaker 1: remodeled it with the core from the fifties and sixties,
- 13:57Speaker 1: and reopened it as the Rock and Roll Highway sixty
- 14:00Speaker 1: seven in in Pocahonas. Wow. So these two were building
- 14:03Speaker 1: financial empire as well. And from what we understand, he
- 14:07Speaker 1: also took the two children under his wing, the children
- 14:11Speaker 1: from the previous marriage, and they seemed like one big,
- 14:15Speaker 1: happy family, kind of like the Brady Bunch. Take a
- 14:26Speaker 1: listen to our new Friends Center, Missy Irvin speaking the
- 14:30Speaker 1: first time I met Linda. It was a stormy night
- 14:32Speaker 1: and it was in Pocohonas, and that was at the
- 14:35Speaker 1: Eddie Mahern Center. We were at a pass upper and
- 14:41Speaker 1: Dais rest in her red suits, was her red book
- 14:44Speaker 1: stick on. She was animated, she was passionate. I was
- 14:48Speaker 1: there with my four children, who were very gay at
- 14:51Speaker 1: the time, but who were quickly becoming my little political consultants.
- 14:57Speaker 1: Linda gave this thousand speech about this second aliments about
- 15:01Speaker 1: protecting the life of unboard children, about the need to
- 15:04Speaker 1: support small businesses, and she ended the vote for me
- 15:09Speaker 1: and the Democrat primary and my two that alternas and
- 15:13Speaker 1: looked at me in astonishment, and they said, well, she
- 15:17Speaker 1: just gave your seat. They didn't understand why she was
- 15:21Speaker 1: bothering the Democrat primary, and I was a Republican of wow, wow,
- 15:25Speaker 1: I could just imagine her giving that space. Joining you
- 15:28Speaker 1: right now, Foreign Press Secretary ken Yang, Ken, I'm trying
- 15:33Speaker 1: to get an understanding of who Linda Collins is, what
- 15:39Speaker 1: she stands for, what she's like as a mom. And
- 15:42Speaker 1: I know she's right for a single mom for a
- 15:45Speaker 1: long long time and raising the two children, working the business,
- 15:50Speaker 1: scrapping her way to the top she gets elected. But
- 15:54Speaker 1: tell me about the real Linda Collins. Well, I think
- 15:57Speaker 1: you know, Senator Urban gave some great insight of who
- 16:02Speaker 1: who she is. But you know, the first thing that
- 16:05Speaker 1: comes to my mind is a Christian. She was a
- 16:10Speaker 1: She was a god fearing Christian woman. Hold on, ken Yang,
- 16:14Speaker 1: I just got to tell you something right now. You know,
- 16:19Speaker 1: especially in politics and in media, when you announce you're
- 16:25Speaker 1: a Christian, everybody starts making fun of you. It's like
- 16:31Speaker 1: you're one of the last targets that it's okay to
- 16:35Speaker 1: make fun of and mock. And for some reason it
- 16:39Speaker 1: engenders so much animosity. I don't get it, but it does.
- 16:45Speaker 1: And I'm just thinking about her being a strong Christian
- 16:50Speaker 1: or as I like to say, I'm trying to be
- 16:52Speaker 1: absurdly tried, and that and itself makes enemies. This the
- 16:57Speaker 1: strangest thing, ken Well. I think, you know, people tend
- 17:02Speaker 1: to focus on the bad. You know, there's always a
- 17:04Speaker 1: bad student in every class. There's always you know that
- 17:07Speaker 1: you know, someone that breaks the rules, and people want
- 17:09Speaker 1: to focus on the on the on that minority and uh,
- 17:13Speaker 1: but you know, when you get to Linda, you know
- 17:15Speaker 1: she's one of the She was one of the good ones.
- 17:18Speaker 1: And even though when she would just go full steam
- 17:22Speaker 1: ahead and you could you would disagree with her, you
- 17:25Speaker 1: would you know, fight her and committee or Priavalia or whatever,
- 17:30Speaker 1: but she loved you afterwards. If you ended up not
- 17:33Speaker 1: talking to her, if you ended up not wanting to
- 17:36Speaker 1: be friends with her, that was on you. It was
- 17:39Speaker 1: never on Linda, because Linda wanted to continue to hug
- 17:43Speaker 1: on you, be there for you, and uh, and just
- 17:47Speaker 1: be just live that good Christian life, the embodiment wherever
- 17:52Speaker 1: she went. Do you agree to urban you're hearing Kenyane?
- 17:57Speaker 1: Do you agree? Oh? Absolutely? She I think she got
- 18:01Speaker 1: that from her parents. I mean, they raised her to be,
- 18:04Speaker 1: you know, a very strong Christian, scripturally based woman, and
- 18:08Speaker 1: I think she took that through her life and all
- 18:11Speaker 1: that she did and the way she treated people I
- 18:14Speaker 1: think was in that vein. But also it molded the
- 18:17Speaker 1: way she believed, and that came out very clearly in
- 18:20Speaker 1: the way she delivered her comments, the way that she
- 18:23Speaker 1: would reference scripture, and that really formed her opinions, and
- 18:28Speaker 1: it formed her beliefs, and it formed her outlook on
- 18:33Speaker 1: different situations, whether that be in society or whether it
- 18:36Speaker 1: be as a matter of law, and you know, and
- 18:39Speaker 1: she really she applied that filter. And I appreciate that.
- 18:44Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I am a Christian person. I'm with you, Nancy.
- 18:48Speaker 1: I mean, we work every day and that's what we're
- 18:50Speaker 1: supposed to do. But it is important, I think for people.
- 18:55Speaker 1: And I think people are threatened to buy it because
- 18:57Speaker 1: it does set a standard immediately, and that's the standard
- 19:01Speaker 1: that person's going to go by. And I think people
- 19:02Speaker 1: are threatened by that and if they perhaps maybe not
- 19:06Speaker 1: understand it completely or not understand how it guides people
- 19:10Speaker 1: because they just won't take the time to engage in
- 19:12Speaker 1: the conversation about it with them. So I'm really impressed
- 19:16Speaker 1: that she was upfront about that. Guys, who is this woman?
- 19:22Speaker 1: Linda Collins Smith? So another thing that factors into this
- 19:28Speaker 1: is being the single mom were a king. And then
- 19:32Speaker 1: she finally meets mister Wright. Well, I've got news on that.
- 19:37Speaker 1: Take a listen. Judge Philip Smith and Linda Collins were
- 19:40Speaker 1: separated for eighteen months before Linda Collins filed for divorce.
- 19:43Speaker 1: While Smith did not contest the divorce, the divorce was
- 19:46Speaker 1: anything but amiable. They argued bitterly over property and money.
- 19:50Speaker 1: Even after the decree was granted, Collins filed a one
- 19:53Speaker 1: thousand page notice of appeal. She claimed the trial courts
- 19:56Speaker 1: ruling as to the division of property was erroneous. At
- 19:59Speaker 1: the heart of the matter a tax refund check and
- 20:02Speaker 1: gold coins. Smiths repeatedly asked for their coins to be
- 20:05Speaker 1: turned over to him. Collins denied knowing where they were.
- 20:07Speaker 1: What happened, you know, I mean to you, ken Yang,
- 20:13Speaker 1: what happened? What went wrong? I mean, this guy looks
- 20:16Speaker 1: so good on paper, right, Yes, Um, you know I think, um,
- 20:23Speaker 1: you know, when when people are are in power, or
- 20:27Speaker 1: you know, as y'all were alluding to it, when females
- 20:32Speaker 1: are out there and being successful and uh letting letting
- 20:37Speaker 1: their name be known, letting you know, themselves be known.
- 20:41Speaker 1: You know, sometimes it causes uh friction uh in in relationships.
- 20:47Speaker 1: H causes friction, friction at home and you know, being
- 20:51Speaker 1: a state senator, being a legislators taxing, especially when you
- 20:56Speaker 1: live far away from Little Rock, you're always in Little Rong,
- 21:00Speaker 1: You're always away, so there's not as much time to
- 21:03Speaker 1: address the issues that you probably would if you, you know,
- 21:07Speaker 1: worked at eight to five job and went home every nut.
- 21:10Speaker 1: You know what, Kenyan, and they could use you at
- 21:12Speaker 1: the un because you are certainly diplomatic to leave my page.
- 21:18Speaker 1: Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter. What the hey? He
- 21:20Speaker 1: went wrong? The man gets the catch of a lifetime.
- 21:23Speaker 1: He falls into a pot of honey with this woman.
- 21:25Speaker 1: What happened, Nancy? We don't know exactly what led to
- 21:29Speaker 1: the divorce. All we know is when they were divorcing,
- 21:32Speaker 1: it was extremely bitter. He even wanted her locked up
- 21:35Speaker 1: and held in contempt, and that never happened. In the
- 21:41Speaker 1: middle of a divorce, he tries to get the state
- 21:44Speaker 1: senator locked up and held in contempt. Okay, well that's
- 21:47Speaker 1: telling me a lot about him right there. Yes, he
- 21:50Speaker 1: did that, Keep going, LEVI never happened, she was never
- 21:54Speaker 1: locked up, and they had a bitter divorce that was appealed.
- 21:58Speaker 1: She appealed the divorce ruling, and they were continuing to
- 22:04Speaker 1: fight this very bitter divorce that dragged on from years,
- 22:08Speaker 1: from twenty sixteen to two nineteen. Can you imagine having
- 22:12Speaker 1: that stress in your life. Oh, let me just throw
- 22:16Speaker 1: a question out there. Has anybody ever been threatened on
- 22:18Speaker 1: this panel and being sent to jail? Because I have
- 22:21Speaker 1: anybody anybody want to admit it, I'll tell you what happened.
- 22:24Speaker 1: I was prosecuting a child molester, I mean a long
- 22:28Speaker 1: time child molester too, and the defense attorney put his
- 22:34Speaker 1: law partner up on the stand to talk about why
- 22:38Speaker 1: one of these little girls when was aged three, how
- 22:43Speaker 1: they recanted their story that mommy's boyfriend, very very rich
- 22:47Speaker 1: millionaire by the way, had been molesting him full on
- 22:50Speaker 1: sex with a three year old. So Anyway, I started
- 22:55Speaker 1: a cross examining him as I should under about his
- 22:58Speaker 1: pecuniary interest in the outcome of the as to you know,
- 23:02Speaker 1: a possible ball slant to his testimony, and the judge
- 23:06Speaker 1: held me in contempt. Well, let me tell you that
- 23:09Speaker 1: courtroom filled up with public defenders faster than you could
- 23:11Speaker 1: blink an eye to see me get fingerprinted and hauled away. Well,
- 23:15Speaker 1: there was another judge in the courthouse who once kissed
- 23:18Speaker 1: me on the knee. He was aiming from my ear,
- 23:21Speaker 1: but he didn't see very well. He's about ninety five
- 23:24Speaker 1: years old and he landed on my knee. Anyway, he
- 23:28Speaker 1: begged the judge just to wait till the end of
- 23:30Speaker 1: the trial before I was taken to jail. And by
- 23:33Speaker 1: the end of the trial, the judge cooled down and
- 23:36Speaker 1: did not send me to jail. Now that's a story
- 23:39Speaker 1: for the books right there. But you know, I just
- 23:42Speaker 1: don't think any lawyers worth their salt length they've been
- 23:44Speaker 1: threatened with contempt or going to jail at least once.
- 23:47Speaker 1: So I'm not impressed, leave my page. I'm not impressed
- 23:50Speaker 1: at all that this so called a husband one and
- 23:54Speaker 1: his wife thrown in jail needless to say he did
- 23:58Speaker 1: not turn out to be Prince Charming. Listen to Tyler
- 24:02Speaker 1: Thomas and at KA r K four four documents who
- 24:04Speaker 1: revealed the former senator was in the process of divorcing
- 24:07Speaker 1: her husband, retired Judge Philip Smith. Hearing in that case
- 24:12Speaker 1: was scheduled later this month, and according to documented testimony,
- 24:16Speaker 1: the couple were at odds over money after selling a
- 24:19Speaker 1: local hotel for more than a million dollars the X Lawmakers.
- 24:23Speaker 1: A former spokesperson tells us the divorce quote was not pleasant.
- 24:28Speaker 1: Trouble is brewing for well known politician A house on
- 24:34Speaker 1: fire Linda Collins Smith. What's really going on in the
- 24:42Speaker 1: inner circle of Linda Collins Smith? Turmoil killers amongst us.
- 24:50Speaker 1: Nancy Gray signing off goodbye for