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- 0:14Speaker 1: Hello, friends, got your Tim Jordan here, And if you've
- 0:18Speaker 1: clicked onto this podcast and aren't sure whether or not
- 0:21Speaker 1: it might be a value to you, well, let me
- 0:24Speaker 1: tell you why that may be true. If you have
- 0:28Speaker 1: a daughter who's in grade school, middle school, high school,
- 0:32Speaker 1: or college, and you've ever been frustrated because sometimes they're
- 0:36Speaker 1: not motivated in school, you're going to leave this podcast,
- 0:40Speaker 1: but a couple of really important tools to help you
- 0:43Speaker 1: better support your kids in getting back on track with
- 0:46Speaker 1: school and getting back on track with their motivation. Let
- 0:51Speaker 1: me ask you a very important question. Have you ever
- 0:54Speaker 1: asked yourself this question? Why is my daughter not motivated
- 0:59Speaker 1: in school? I bet most of you are raising your
- 1:02Speaker 1: hands right now. Another question I hear a lot from
- 1:06Speaker 1: parents is how can I motivate my daughter with their schoolwork?
- 1:11Speaker 1: And if you've ever asked yourself those questions, let's start
- 1:14Speaker 1: with you're asking the wrong question, because a better, healthier
- 1:19Speaker 1: question would be how can I support my daughter to
- 1:23Speaker 1: find her own intrinsic motivation in school? Kids, teens, adults,
- 1:29Speaker 1: all of us tend to put more into anything that
- 1:31Speaker 1: we're doing, and we're much more willing to stick with
- 1:34Speaker 1: it when they're going gets tough if we're the ones
- 1:37Speaker 1: who choose to do it. When I work with girls
- 1:40Speaker 1: who say their parents are making them do something or
- 1:43Speaker 1: that thing that they're doing, and schoolwork is one of
- 1:46Speaker 1: them has become a half to I try and help
- 1:49Speaker 1: them shift their attitude to make it a quote unquote
- 1:53Speaker 1: one two I eat why might be in their best
- 1:56Speaker 1: interest to do okay in school? I asked them questions
- 2:00Speaker 1: like what parts of school do you like and why
- 2:04Speaker 1: what do you like about it? Having autonomy and the
- 2:07Speaker 1: choice to do things instead of being made can make
- 2:10Speaker 1: all the difference in the world when it comes to
- 2:13Speaker 1: motivation in anything, much less schoolwork. Here's the deal. If
- 2:18Speaker 1: we're allowed to choose to do something, we're allowed to
- 2:22Speaker 1: choose our own course for school, are having a job,
- 2:30Speaker 1: or playing soccer or whatever it might be. When we
- 2:32Speaker 1: have autonomy to do those things, we have a choice.
- 2:36Speaker 1: We naturally become more engaged in those things because we
- 2:39Speaker 1: chose it. And when we become more engaged, we're more
- 2:43Speaker 1: likely to put more energy into it, We're more likely
- 2:46Speaker 1: to experience those flow moments we're really into it, We're
- 2:49Speaker 1: much more likely to achieve mastery and that thing, and
- 2:53Speaker 1: also importantly, to derive more fulfillment from it. I read
- 2:59Speaker 1: a story long time ago about a young girl in college,
- 3:04Speaker 1: and she was playing soccer in college, and the coach
- 3:09Speaker 1: had a meeting every year with each of his players
- 3:12Speaker 1: one on one before the season. So before her sophomore
- 3:16Speaker 1: season at the University of North Carolina, this this young
- 3:19Speaker 1: woman was sitting across from her coach and he asked
- 3:22Speaker 1: her a question. He said, what do you want with
- 3:25Speaker 1: your soccer now? This girl was taken aback and she
- 3:28Speaker 1: struggled to find an answer, and her coach very wisely
- 3:33Speaker 1: walked over to the light switch in the room. He
- 3:35Speaker 1: turned it off and then back on and off and on,
- 3:39Speaker 1: and he said to this young woman, it's just a decision,
- 3:43Speaker 1: but you have to make it each and every day,
- 3:46Speaker 1: and then he wisely left her to grapple with the truth.
- 3:49Speaker 1: He walked out of the room. Like most young adults,
- 3:53Speaker 1: this woman had never really taken the time to go
- 3:55Speaker 1: inside and figure out what she wanted, what was important
- 3:59Speaker 1: to her, what was right for her? Why did she
- 4:02Speaker 1: love soccer? And she realized that she had to choose
- 4:07Speaker 1: between mediocrity and excellence, and that it was the decision
- 4:11Speaker 1: she would have to make each and every day just
- 4:13Speaker 1: like the coach's light switch metaphor. So this young woman
- 4:17Speaker 1: rededicated herself to put in the work to attain her goal.
- 4:20Speaker 1: She wanted to be the best in the world, and
- 4:23Speaker 1: she got amazing results. When she retired, she was considered
- 4:27Speaker 1: the best female soccer player in history. She was the
- 4:31Speaker 1: youngest soccer player at age fifteen to play for the
- 4:33Speaker 1: national team. She won four consecutive NCAA Women's Soccer Championships.
- 4:39Speaker 1: She finished as a hersord team's all time leading scorer.
- 4:42Speaker 1: She's the youngest team member aged nineteen in history to
- 4:45Speaker 1: win the World Cup. She won the Women's World Cup
- 4:48Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one, nineteen ninety nine, Olympic gold medals
- 4:52Speaker 1: in ninety six, in two thousand and four, and she
- 4:56Speaker 1: held the record for most international goals scored until June
- 4:59Speaker 1: of two thous the thirteen. This young woman in college
- 5:04Speaker 1: was Mia Ham considered probably the one of the great
- 5:08Speaker 1: one of the if not the greatest women's soccer player
- 5:10Speaker 1: in history. And it only happened because she found her
- 5:14Speaker 1: own motivation. So I think it's important to have us
- 5:19Speaker 1: have some sit down with your daughter or take them
- 5:21Speaker 1: for a walk and ask them what kind of grades
- 5:24Speaker 1: that they want to achieve in school, and maybe more
- 5:29Speaker 1: importantly why. A lot of kids to please you may
- 5:32Speaker 1: say well, I want to get a's, because that's what
- 5:34Speaker 1: they're supposed to say, right, But then ask them why
- 5:37Speaker 1: do you want as now, don't do it for me?
- 5:39Speaker 1: If it was for you for your reasons, why might
- 5:42Speaker 1: you want that? Why might you want to do well
- 5:46Speaker 1: in school? You can also ask them things about everything
- 5:50Speaker 1: they do. Why do they love playing soccer, why they
- 5:52Speaker 1: love to draw or paint? Why is it important excuse
- 5:57Speaker 1: me to them? And when they tell you why they
- 6:04Speaker 1: want to do what they want to do and why
- 6:06Speaker 1: they want to do well in school, then just mirror
- 6:09Speaker 1: that back so they internalize it. Sometimes they haven't even
- 6:13Speaker 1: heard themselves say what their motivation is. Even if you
- 6:19Speaker 1: have a younger kid, say you have a six year
- 6:21Speaker 1: old who loves to draw, and they come up to
- 6:23Speaker 1: them to say, daddy, daddy, or mommy, mommy, do you
- 6:25Speaker 1: like my drawing? It's so easy for us to quickly
- 6:29Speaker 1: revert to, oh my gosh, honey, I love your drawing,
- 6:32Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so beautiful. Instead, what you can
- 6:36Speaker 1: learn to do starting when they're very young is to
- 6:38Speaker 1: say what do you like about your drawing, and then
- 6:42Speaker 1: zip your mouth closed and just listen, because they will
- 6:46Speaker 1: tell you why they love their artwork, and it's what
- 6:50Speaker 1: they'll probably say is a lot different than what you
- 6:52Speaker 1: would have said, because what you would have probably answered was, oh,
- 6:55Speaker 1: I love that you stay within the lines better, or
- 6:57Speaker 1: you're learning how to do that really well. And your
- 7:01Speaker 1: six year old will probably say something to the effect of,
- 7:04Speaker 1: I like it because I used all the colors, and look,
- 7:07Speaker 1: I made her hair purple and I made her smile orange.
- 7:09Speaker 1: And she will tell you why she loves art, and
- 7:14Speaker 1: then you listen, you mirrore it back, and she internalizes
- 7:17Speaker 1: why she loves art. She internaliznes her intrinsic motivation. My
- 7:22Speaker 1: belief is that learning is intensely exciting. It is an
- 7:27Speaker 1: intensely enjoyable activity in and of itself. Learning is its
- 7:32Speaker 1: own reward in the sense, especially if you're allowed to
- 7:36Speaker 1: do it for your reasons. Not doing it for their
- 7:41Speaker 1: reasons is one of the most common reasons I find
- 7:44Speaker 1: for kids lacking motivation in school or anything. I used
- 7:49Speaker 1: to a long time ago teach a master's level class
- 7:52Speaker 1: for teachers at a local university, and I always every
- 7:56Speaker 1: every semester, I would bring in some of my campers
- 8:00Speaker 1: who were outspoken, so the teachers could ask some questions
- 8:03Speaker 1: that they normally wouldn't get a chance to answer or
- 8:05Speaker 1: excuse me, ask their students. And they were talking about
- 8:11Speaker 1: grades and motivation stuff. And one of the girls told
- 8:14Speaker 1: them that she was a straight A student, and she
- 8:17Speaker 1: says she hated school. I'll never forget the looks on
- 8:21Speaker 1: the teachers faces, like, why do you hate school? You're
- 8:24Speaker 1: a straight A student. And she wanted to tell them
- 8:27Speaker 1: that she hated school because it was just a game.
- 8:31Speaker 1: She said, all I do is give the teacher is
- 8:33Speaker 1: what they want. I jump through all these hoops that
- 8:35Speaker 1: are set out for me. I take the right classes
- 8:38Speaker 1: that will look good at my college transcripts. And she
- 8:40Speaker 1: said to them, I've lost my love of learning. She
- 8:44Speaker 1: actually used those words. And that's one of the reasons
- 8:48Speaker 1: why some of your daughters may not be motivated in school,
- 8:50Speaker 1: because they've lost their love of learning. Because it's a game.
- 8:53Speaker 1: It is a game, and it's starting earlier and earlier.
- 8:57Speaker 1: I have grade school students already pressured about having the
- 9:00Speaker 1: right classes in middle school so they can get the
- 9:03Speaker 1: right classes in high school so they can pad their resumes.
- 9:06Speaker 1: It looks good in their college transcript blah blah blah
- 9:08Speaker 1: blah blah, and they're not doing it for the love
- 9:11Speaker 1: of learning. We distract them from that with all these
- 9:16Speaker 1: externals like college scholarships and a's rewards being paid for grades,
- 9:23Speaker 1: all those things, All those externals will distract your daughters
- 9:27Speaker 1: from their intrinsic motivation. I remember one time my wife
- 9:33Speaker 1: and I gave a talk in California. It was an
- 9:37Speaker 1: event at Stanford University, and one of the dads came
- 9:42Speaker 1: up to us. We were talking about motivation and the talk,
- 9:43Speaker 1: and one of the dads came up to us afterwards.
- 9:45Speaker 1: He said, I've got a story for it. He said.
- 9:49Speaker 1: He said he took his sixteen year old son to
- 9:53Speaker 1: an event at Stanford a couple months previous, and he said,
- 9:58Speaker 1: my son was so to day in school, he wouldn't
- 10:01Speaker 1: do it or power struggles. He was doing terrible. He's
- 10:04Speaker 1: a really bright kid. But he decided to take him
- 10:07Speaker 1: to this talk by a twelve twenty four year old
- 10:12Speaker 1: alumni from Stanford, and this twenty four year old started
- 10:16Speaker 1: talking about how he used his education in school to
- 10:20Speaker 1: make his first million dollars by the age of twenty one.
- 10:23Speaker 1: And this guy's son's sixteen year old son's ears perked up,
- 10:28Speaker 1: and in that moment he decided that he wanted to
- 10:31Speaker 1: go to college there at Stanford and do what that
- 10:34Speaker 1: guy did, And he immediately shifted from being a sixteen
- 10:38Speaker 1: year old BC occasional d student to all a's because
- 10:44Speaker 1: he chose it for his reasons. That's an important step
- 10:49Speaker 1: for each and every one of you. Help your kids
- 10:52Speaker 1: find their reasons for going to school. If they want
- 10:56Speaker 1: to do well, were there their reasons. They may have
- 10:59Speaker 1: to hope those over some time, but have conversations along
- 11:03Speaker 1: the way. The other thing you can do, kind of
- 11:06Speaker 1: like that the dad of the sixteen year old, is
- 11:09Speaker 1: maybe connect your kids. Connect your daughter with any adults
- 11:13Speaker 1: that you know who are doing interesting jobs or maybe
- 11:17Speaker 1: have a career that their daughter might have an interest in.
- 11:20Speaker 1: Let them shadow that person at their job, because that's
- 11:25Speaker 1: oftentimes what can light a fire under a kid who
- 11:28Speaker 1: all of a sudden moansts to become an ul ultrascenographer,
- 11:33Speaker 1: or they might want to become a dentist, or they
- 11:35Speaker 1: might want to become a clothes buyer for a clothing
- 11:38Speaker 1: store because they walk around all day and they have
- 11:42Speaker 1: a chance to talk to someone who's out in the
- 11:44Speaker 1: real world doing a real job, and they get excited
- 11:48Speaker 1: by that, and that becomes their motivation. I want that,
- 11:54Speaker 1: And the e thing is the most important part of
- 11:56Speaker 1: that sentence, I want it. It's not you making me.
- 11:59Speaker 1: It's not because I should, It's because I want to. So,
- 12:06Speaker 1: if you've ever wondered, you know, why is my daughter
- 12:10Speaker 1: not motivating in school? How can I motivate my daughter
- 12:13Speaker 1: in school again? Start asking a better question, which is
- 12:17Speaker 1: how can I support my daughter in finding their own
- 12:20Speaker 1: internal intrinsic motivation so they're doing it for their reasons.
- 12:27Speaker 1: How can I help my daughter to find things that
- 12:30Speaker 1: they like to do? So if they choose it themselves,
- 12:34Speaker 1: they pour themselves into it, They become fully engaged, They
- 12:37Speaker 1: go into those flow moments which are so fulfilling, and
- 12:40Speaker 1: that's what we'll keep them doing that thing. You can
- 12:45Speaker 1: do that starting when they're young. Keep asking questions all
- 12:49Speaker 1: along the way, why they want to do what they're doing,
- 12:52Speaker 1: What kind of grades do they want? Why do they
- 12:56Speaker 1: want to be on the swim team? Why they love
- 12:59Speaker 1: to do art, because if they can start connecting with
- 13:01Speaker 1: their reasons for liking what they do, that's the motivation
- 13:05Speaker 1: that they're going to want to cling on to. That's
- 13:07Speaker 1: their own internal intrinsic motivation, and that will see them
- 13:12Speaker 1: through all kinds of obstacles in their life. So ask
- 13:17Speaker 1: a different question and help them find their own motivation,
- 13:21Speaker 1: just like Mia Ham did and that sixteen year old
- 13:25Speaker 1: boy at Stanford. I hope this helps because I know
- 13:29Speaker 1: a lot of parents get frustrated with their kids not
- 13:32Speaker 1: being motivated and the things that they feel like they
- 13:34Speaker 1: should be motivated in school obviously is one of them.
- 13:39Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning into these podcasts, and
- 13:43Speaker 1: also go to my website at www dot Dr tim
- 13:46Speaker 1: Jordan dot com, where you will find a list of
- 13:49Speaker 1: all my old podcasts. I've got three hundred and sixty
- 13:51Speaker 1: or three hundred and seventy something podcasts. Now you'll find
- 13:55Speaker 1: some good ones. I'll locate a good one to do
- 13:59Speaker 1: a schoolwork and motivation and put that in my show notes.
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- 14:07Speaker 1: someone who has a daughter who might be in grade school,
- 14:09Speaker 1: middle school, high school, college who may be lacking in
- 14:12Speaker 1: motivation and I appreciate that always. I'll be back here
- 14:16Speaker 1: with a brand new podcast in a week. By the way,
- 14:19Speaker 1: I'm gonna start adding some extra podcasts and lit bonus
- 14:22Speaker 1: ones in between these weekly ones, and just because I
- 14:27Speaker 1: hold this of topics I want to talk about, and
- 14:29Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna add some new ones. So I
- 14:32Speaker 1: appreciate you listening to these, I appreciate you passing them on,
- 14:35Speaker 1: and as always, thank you so much. I'll be back
- 14:38Speaker 1: in a week with a brand new podcast. Thanks so
- 14:40Speaker 1: much for stopping by.