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Rich Lowry | Editor-In-Chief of National Review | 07-16-26 · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: You have seen this very discreete extremely well funded campaign
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  Speaker 1: to try to derail the negotiation and try to derail
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  Speaker 1: the deal. And you know there was again there's this
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  Speaker 1: time article that came out yesterday. A friend send it
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  Speaker 1: to me. It's like worth reading because it lists a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of people who have quite literally been paid by
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  Speaker 1: a former Trump campaign person who was himself paid by
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  Speaker 1: certain elements within the Israeli government. And those people are
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  Speaker 1: attacking me viciously for quite literally trying to accomplish the
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  Speaker 1: negotiation objective that the President's set for the country.
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  Speaker 2: So what is their position, like, are they're attacking you how.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's it's social media posts, it's you know, they're
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  Speaker 1: leaking to reporters. They're attacking me obsessively saying that we
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  Speaker 1: should not be negotiating with Iran, we should just keep
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  Speaker 1: the military campaign going indefinitely, and that is that is
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  Speaker 1: their explicit position, and coming after me saying that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: people have come after me and say that I'm influenced
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  Speaker 1: by Qatar, that I'm influenced by foreign governments, that you know,
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  Speaker 1: I take my marching orders from Tucker Carlson. And there's
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  Speaker 1: just so much bold ab out there when what I'm
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  Speaker 1: actually trying to do is accomplish what the President of
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  Speaker 1: the United States told me to accomplish, which is a
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  Speaker 1: settlement of this that accomplishes our objectives. Iran doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon, we have the free flow of.
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  Speaker 2: Oil and gas.
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  Speaker 1: And like I should be clear, you know, like I
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  Speaker 1: don't actually mind. I don't mind that the you know,
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  Speaker 1: let's say certain elements of the Israeli government want to
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  Speaker 1: criticize the deal or have disagreements about the deal. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even mind an effort to try to influence. You know,
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  Speaker 1: foreign governments try to influence the United States all the time.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Israel does it, Other countries do it. It's
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  Speaker 1: just sort of the nature of the beast. What bothers
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  Speaker 1: me is actually when Americans allow, meaning American leadership, allows
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  Speaker 1: that influence to affect their judgment and to affect what
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  Speaker 1: they are advocating for. That's what really bothers me. People
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  Speaker 1: were always going to try to influence the United States
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  Speaker 1: of America, whether they're allies of ours or whether they
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  Speaker 1: are enemies of ours. But again, when I open up
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  Speaker 1: the pages of Time magazine and I see that there's
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  Speaker 1: a literal foreign influence campaign being funded to tank the
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  Speaker 1: very deal that I was pursuing, and owe, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: many of the people who were receiving that money were
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  Speaker 1: actually attacking me in completely dishonest ways.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: My response to that is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, go to hell.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what I have to do for the
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  Speaker 1: American people. I represent Americans first.
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  Speaker 2: This is a guy that did not want this war
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  Speaker 2: in the first place. He was actually and I know
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  Speaker 2: this for a fact, Okay, some of you say he
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  Speaker 2: didn't want it, You don't even know. He was a
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  Speaker 2: real pain in the ess. There were screaming matches inside
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  Speaker 2: Trump's Oval office with jd Events and a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people that are very close to President Trump, the inner circle,
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  Speaker 2: which you guys don't even know of who those people are.
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  Speaker 2: I do. They don't like them. They don't like them,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't like them. Okay. So that little back
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  Speaker 2: and forth with Joe Rogan about Israeli influencers and money
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  Speaker 2: and they're trying to derail what he's trying to accomplish,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't buy any of it. This is a
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  Speaker 2: guy that did not want this war in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: That no matter what he says, publicly. He is not
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  Speaker 2: a big fan of Israel ornatanyao, which is fine. That
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  Speaker 2: seems to be the growing trend these days, but it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't work with me. So I'm interested to hear from
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  Speaker 2: which Lowry, the editor of the National Review, what he thinks.
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  Speaker 2: So with that said Richard, good morning, buddy.
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  Speaker 3: How are you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm great? What do you think of Jdvents?
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  Speaker 3: I think that Statement's what's really irksome about it is
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  Speaker 3: the deal fell apart because of Iran. Right the deal
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  Speaker 3: Auran was supposed.
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  Speaker 2: To wait stop start stop right there, stop right there,
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  Speaker 2: which Lowry just made all the sense in the world.
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  Speaker 2: While JD. Vance is trying to blame Israel and israel
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  Speaker 2: influencers and money. The reason why the deal bella part
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  Speaker 2: was because of Iran. You just said it, rich That's
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  Speaker 2: where you should be really annoyed with JD. Vance.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the agreement said it was ambiguous, and it clearly
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  Speaker 3: gave control implicit control a straight to Iran, which was
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  Speaker 3: a very bad thing. One of the reasons it was
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  Speaker 3: a terrible deal to begin with. But they're supposed to
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  Speaker 3: use their best efforts to assure safe passage in the
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  Speaker 3: Strait and it's just not consistent with that agreement if
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  Speaker 3: you're shooting at tankers and killing people, which they had been,
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  Speaker 3: you know, over the last week or so. So that's
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  Speaker 3: what tanked it. And it's true there is a pro
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  Speaker 3: Israel influence campaign run by a former Trump guy, Brad Parscal,
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  Speaker 3: But Parscal swears I don't know, swears that he didn't
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  Speaker 3: use these guys to try to undermine the MoU And
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  Speaker 3: certainly everyone I know I saw on X or I
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  Speaker 3: talked to, or I saw on TV, including you, were
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  Speaker 3: sincerely appalled by the deal and have been proved out.
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  Speaker 3: So why are you going out of your way to
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  Speaker 3: criticize all those people rather than the Iranians?
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  Speaker 2: Right? And the truth is, well, yes, Pascal exists, the
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  Speaker 2: pro Israel side does exist. There's also an anti Israel
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  Speaker 2: side of course. Why why are you just pointing out
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  Speaker 2: the pro Israel side. There's an anti Israel side, JD,
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  Speaker 2: which includes your good buddy Tucker calls, and which happened
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  Speaker 2: in Trump's years, the years, in the last couple of
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  Speaker 2: months not said don't do this from the very beginning.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so he would never in a million years, JD say,
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  Speaker 3: oh yeah, Tucker's been saying these insane things that Israel
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  Speaker 3: assassinated Charlie Kirk to astimidate the president of the United States
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  Speaker 3: into this war with Iran. No one should suggest my
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  Speaker 3: good friend Donald Trump is scared of anyone. He'll never
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  Speaker 3: do that. I'll never do that, right because he's still
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  Speaker 3: friends with Tucker. And what's that part of the coalition,
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  Speaker 3: of that part of the right to be part of
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  Speaker 3: this coalition?
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  Speaker 2: You know, you talk about the pro Israel stuff. The
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  Speaker 2: President is going to speak tonight at nine o'clock. What
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  Speaker 2: about which lowry bee hundred one hundred House Democrats that
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  Speaker 2: voted yesterday no shock here to cut aid to Israel?
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  Speaker 2: What about that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's the way the wind is blowing. And look,
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  Speaker 3: if you look at Rocana and what he did in Israel.
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  Speaker 3: This is the guy wanted to be a moderate two
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  Speaker 3: or three years ago, now wants to be a fervent
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  Speaker 3: anti Zionist and he's a hypocrite and cynic. But it
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  Speaker 3: shows you're winning the debate when the hypocrites and synics
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  Speaker 3: are coming your way and they're going the anti Israel way.
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  Speaker 3: So that's a very bad thing. And this is going
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  Speaker 3: to be It's always been a debate it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be even a hotter one between the left and the right,
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  Speaker 3: and within the right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because the problem is is the left is completely
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  Speaker 2: for the most party should say anti Israel, anti Zionists.
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  Speaker 2: They go together, despite what the people will try to
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  Speaker 2: convence you, they go together. But now you've got people
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  Speaker 2: on the right too, So it looks it looks like
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  Speaker 2: a very very tough fight for BB and Israel and
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  Speaker 2: all they're doing. And you know this switch this little country,
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  Speaker 2: all these other Arab countries want to wipe them out,
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  Speaker 2: All these European countries would love to see them wiped out.
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  Speaker 2: And now you've got a lot of Americans who wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: mind seeing the same thing. And all BB is trying
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  Speaker 2: to do is survive in a world where all these
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  Speaker 2: morons here in the United States because they want to,
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  Speaker 2: they're not even stupid, a lot of them, because they
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  Speaker 2: want to, are buying all the propaganda that started October
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  Speaker 2: the eighth.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you got to say, unfortunately, a key part
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  Speaker 3: of that monstrategy worked, right. They wanted Israel to lash back,
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  Speaker 3: which any society would have, and a lot of civilians
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  Speaker 3: to die in a war, in part because large part
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  Speaker 3: because some moss hides among civilians and to say, look,
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  Speaker 3: how terrible Israel is. And it's worked. You know, it
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  Speaker 3: didn't work in the initial couple of days. But we
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  Speaker 3: talked about this, how long would it take Biden to
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  Speaker 3: turn against Israel? Right, It wasn't very long, and he
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  Speaker 3: was being driven by the left right, which instantly turned
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  Speaker 3: against Israel. So no society was put up with What
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  Speaker 3: if you look at Hesbelah, you know a lot of people, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: they're invading Lemanon. There only invading in Lebanon because he
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  Speaker 3: blows rocketing them. Right, they're a terror force in Michigan,
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  Speaker 3: rocketing nice pleasant Canada. Canad would invade Michigan to stop it.
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  Speaker 3: No one else would put up with it. And there's
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  Speaker 3: this vast double standard where no other conflict in the
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  Speaker 3: world supposedly matters. It's all about Israel, and every time
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  Speaker 3: there's a shooting war with a terrorist group, Israel's to blame.
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  Speaker 3: It's perverse.
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  Speaker 2: They blame Israel for everything. I mean, I saw some
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  Speaker 2: guy do some funny bit, some video bit a couple
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  Speaker 2: of days ago where he just brought up a whole
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  Speaker 2: bunch of the world's problems and he's like Israel Israel,
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  Speaker 2: and he was being fun. But the truth is, at
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  Speaker 2: this point, people are so deranged and so sick, and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of them are so hateful, Tucker included. They
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  Speaker 2: find a way to blame Israel for everything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. And for the Left, it's because they
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  Speaker 3: now consider Israel a white society. Rokana went over there
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  Speaker 3: and said, I never felt brown before until I was
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  Speaker 3: on the West Bank. Whereas you know, more than the
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  Speaker 3: half of Israeli a Jewish population in Israel, they're from
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  Speaker 3: the Middle East or North Africa, not people that we
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  Speaker 3: would consider white.
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  Speaker 2: You know. And by the way, the majority of the
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  Speaker 2: West Bank, because people don't know this, I don't call
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  Speaker 2: it the West Bank. I call it Judea and Samaria.
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  Speaker 2: That's where you get the term jew from. Okay, it's
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  Speaker 2: Judaya and Samaria, not the West Bank. But most of
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  Speaker 2: those people, the overwhelming majority, are Palestinians, not Asraeli's. You
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  Speaker 2: know that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And then twenty percent of the Israeli population are Arabs,
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  Speaker 3: and they have the right to vote, they have justices
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  Speaker 3: on the Supreme Court. Twenty percent of the Israeli population,
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  Speaker 3: twenty percent of the Israeli doctors are Arab, half a pharmacist.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty percent of the college kids. They fully participate in
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  Speaker 3: Israeli society and arguably are the freest Arabs in the
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  Speaker 3: Middle East. The ones living in Israel and we're supposed
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  Speaker 3: to leave believe it's a part in apartheid society. Again,
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  Speaker 3: it's just perverse.
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  Speaker 2: Which Lowry the editor of the National Review. So, Richard,
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  Speaker 2: when you started on this show many years ago, it
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  Speaker 2: was widely known that you were really, really good friends
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  Speaker 2: with one John Balton. I don't want the FBI company house, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: But Bernie used to say to me, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: when Witch he's a big warhawk, big warhawk, I go,
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  Speaker 2: he is, I don't even know. I don't know. And
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  Speaker 2: we lost the guy last week that the Left again
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  Speaker 2: described as a war bonger. It's all he was not, because,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, what a horrible person. He stood up
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  Speaker 2: with the victims Israel are the victims, you dumb bastards.
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  Speaker 2: Ukraine are the victims, you dumb bastard studs. The Taiwanese
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  Speaker 2: are the victims, you dumb bastards. And that you, Lindsey
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  Speaker 2: Graham stood up for so smart people like me go,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, what a horrible loss. But the luck
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  Speaker 2: goes ha ha, thank god. Another warmonger is dead. Who's right?
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  Speaker 3: Well, he was an interventionist to a fault, I would say,
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  Speaker 3: even too interventionists for me at times, but very sincere
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  Speaker 3: in what he believed largely correct, stalwart friend of Israel
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  Speaker 3: and the Ukraine are on, battled allies and the help
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  Speaker 3: hated tyrants of all kinds. And he made the calculation
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  Speaker 3: which I think proved out and was the correct one.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a Donald Trump guy. You know, in twenty
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  Speaker 3: fifteen or twenty sixteen, he's the controls of Republican Party
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  Speaker 3: and was probably going to win the presidency. I need
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  Speaker 3: to be friends with that guy, and I need to
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  Speaker 3: influence them. And Lindsay did that, did it quite effectively.
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  Speaker 3: One more internal battles with you know, the Jdvans types
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  Speaker 3: in the Trump years than he was entitled to, and
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  Speaker 3: did a fantastic job. And this was a guy he
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  Speaker 3: loved the game, he loved being on TV, he loved
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  Speaker 3: making arguments, he loved maneuvering to try to advance the
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  Speaker 3: ball for his point of view, whether it's influencing Trump
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  Speaker 3: or as fellow senators behind closed doors. Just a tremendous senator,
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  Speaker 3: highly effective, and no other senators enjoyed the job more
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  Speaker 3: than Lindy Graham has last question.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Rogan also brought up Epstein with JD Vance yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: and Van said, listen Cia and Mo Sad. I think
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  Speaker 2: he could have been both becaus. Rogan thoughted by saying,
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  Speaker 2: you know, most people think he was Mosad. Why do
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  Speaker 2: you think, honestly, above and beyond the people out there
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  Speaker 2: that actually care, which I think are the minority everybody
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  Speaker 2: do that actually care about the victims? Why do you
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  Speaker 2: think as MS now discusses Epstein right now, why do
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  Speaker 2: you think that it's still brought up almost every day,
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  Speaker 2: especially on the liberal channels. Why is that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, they used to dismiss all this as right when
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  Speaker 3: conspiracy theories, until the light bulb went off sometime last year. No, actually,
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  Speaker 3: this is really a useful tool against Trump and to
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  Speaker 3: divide the right, so they've been obsessed with it ever since.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of ro Conna, he clearly made this turn just
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  Speaker 3: when he realized. He never talked about it before until
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  Speaker 3: he realized as a tool.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know, do you know who's sitting on MS
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  Speaker 2: now right now being interviewed about the Epstein files ro Conna. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Right there you go. So, look, if if there's evidence
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  Speaker 3: that he has a message agent jd Vance needs to
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  Speaker 3: go get it and release it right now. I do
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  Speaker 3: not think that's the case. It would make no sense
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  Speaker 3: to me that Israel will take the enormous risk of
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  Speaker 3: running a pedophile agent in the United States. That would
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  Speaker 3: totally blow Well, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, they go back I brought this up to Olmeworld here.
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  Speaker 2: What they go back to is his partner, Geelane Maxwell.
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  Speaker 2: Her father, Robert Maxwell, is buried in the very prestigious
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  Speaker 2: Mount of Olive Cemetery which overlooks the Western Wall, and
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  Speaker 2: nobody can figure out why Robert Maxwell is buried there.
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  Speaker 2: So they're making this sleep that if Glain Maxwell's father
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  Speaker 2: is buried in this very prestigious Israeli cemetery, then Epstein
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  Speaker 2: must have been Mosad.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but obviously that's a logical leap. There's no no
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  Speaker 3: connection there. And obviously her dad, whether a Massad agent
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  Speaker 3: or had a connection with Massad, you know, but no
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  Speaker 3: one who's testified about this. Glaine when she talked talked
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  Speaker 3: to what's his name Todd Blanche several months ago last year.
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  Speaker 3: No indications. Alan Dershowitz, you know who's pro Israel, but
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  Speaker 3: it's not a liar. No indication. So again, it would
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  Speaker 3: have been an enormous risk. And if Masad wants to
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  Speaker 3: to you know, if there's someone who has a problem
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  Speaker 3: with young women that Masad wants to influence or get
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  Speaker 3: after it, they can do it directly. You know, you
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  Speaker 3: send the young girl to a bar to pick the
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  Speaker 3: guy up, and then you have a camera in the
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  Speaker 3: hotel room or whatever. You don't need Epstein to do it.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just a fantasy. And part of it, not
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  Speaker 3: all of it, but part of it is people who
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  Speaker 3: just want to believe Jews control the world for their
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  Speaker 3: nefarious ants.
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  Speaker 2: It's true. It is so disgusting. Please witch Lowry on
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  Speaker 2: the way out, because I believe you more than anybody.
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  Speaker 2: I trust you. Please tell me that Marco Rubio is
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  Speaker 2: going to be my nominee. No.
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking when we came into the segment, said
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna end up voting for jd Vance.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna have a choice. I'm still going to
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  Speaker 2: vote for jd Vance over a Democrat. But I don't
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  Speaker 2: want J. D. Vance. I'll take Marco Rubio or Ted
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  Speaker 2: Cruz out of JD. Vance.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there'll be a race. People will run
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  Speaker 3: against him, and it always these races always get competitive
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  Speaker 3: at some point. But he's a prohibited favorite ass.
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  Speaker 2: You don't think Marco Rubio can beat him.
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  Speaker 3: I think he could. I don't think he's gonna run.
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  Speaker 2: Either the why but why don't you think he's gonna run.
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  Speaker 3: He's got a fantastic job. He's still young, and he
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  Speaker 3: has a better sense of the inside dynamic between Trump
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  Speaker 3: and Vance than we do. And if he, you know,
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  Speaker 3: sensing you know, a major rupture on the way, maybe
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  Speaker 3: he would run. But I don't think he's going to run.
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  Speaker 3: If he thinks Trump's going to be in Vance's camp, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think he nailed it, and I think jayd we'll get
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  Speaker 2: that from Trump. Which Lowry, as always, You're brilliant, You're great.
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  Speaker 2: I love you, Thank you so much, all right, rich
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  Speaker 2: which Lowry the editor right there of the National Review,
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  Speaker 2: one of our great weekly guests. Which Lowry does a
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  Speaker 2: fantastic job.
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