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Episode 26: Magical Inventions · Revelio: A Wizarding World Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to episode twenty six of Rebellio Whore
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  Speaker 1: August twenty first, twenty twenty five. I'm Amy, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Nicole, and I'm Tom.
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  Speaker 1: Here we are just a couple of weeks away from
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  Speaker 1: back to Hogwarts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that means the end of summer, which I'm okay.
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  Speaker 2: With but me too, Amy is not so okay with it.
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  Speaker 3: But because Amy literally has to go, like back to Hogbacker.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I wish it was Hogwarts the magical kind. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be complaining if I was going back to hogwartsorts.
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  Speaker 2: So in today's episode, we'll be discussing magical objects. But first.
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  Speaker 1: Listening to w W in the Wizarding Wireless Network. Now
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  Speaker 1: for the latest headlines.
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  Speaker 3: So this week we actually do have a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of news. It seemed like it was kind of going
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  Speaker 3: to be slower and then something's happened. I figured i'd
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  Speaker 3: start with, like, the biggest piece of news that we've
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  Speaker 3: gotten is that a full cast Harry Potter audiobook series
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  Speaker 3: is coming to Audible. I'm really excited about this. Full
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  Speaker 3: cast audio dramas are always really fun to listen to,
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  Speaker 3: and that's because they contain scores. You know, there's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be original music in this series, you know, different sound
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  Speaker 3: captures and sound effects that get integrated into the narration
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  Speaker 3: of the story, and of course various voice per and
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  Speaker 3: so this series is going to have an ensemble of
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  Speaker 3: over two hundred voices, and included in this are some
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  Speaker 3: very well known actors. So we're gonna have some more
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  Speaker 3: casting announcements to come, but for now we do know
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  Speaker 3: some of the casting. The Olivier nominated actor Cush Gumbo
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  Speaker 3: is going to be narrating the series, and then in
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  Speaker 3: the first three audiobooks, the young versions of Harry, Ron
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  Speaker 3: and Hermione will be voiced by Frankie Treadaway, Max Lester,
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  Speaker 3: and Arabella Stanton respectively. And you heard that right. Arabella
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  Speaker 3: will be voicing young Hermione in this project, in addition
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  Speaker 3: to obviously playing Hermione in the upcoming Harry Potter HBO series.
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  Speaker 1: She sounds so good the clips they posted, yes, so cute.
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  Speaker 3: I think, what did I say on our group chat,
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  Speaker 3: like she was so good? They like she's doing it twice,
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that was. Like in the clip
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  Speaker 3: that they posted, you have everyone kind of like giving
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  Speaker 3: their very first taste of what they're going to sound
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  Speaker 3: like as these characters. It was so exciting to see
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  Speaker 3: her because obviously we know we're going to be getting
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  Speaker 3: more of her, and I think it just in my opinion,
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  Speaker 3: shows again how perfect her casting was. But like as
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  Speaker 3: I mentioned, they're only going to be voicing them in
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  Speaker 3: the first three audiobooks and then starting with Goblet of Fire,
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  Speaker 3: through the rest of the series. The trio will then
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  Speaker 3: be voiced by Jackson Cannock probably saying that wrong, Rice
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  Speaker 3: Mulligan and Nina Barker Francis to kind of step in
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  Speaker 3: with the older voices of the characters. Hugh Laurie is
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  Speaker 3: coming in to voice Alvis Dumbledore, and he had the
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  Speaker 3: following to say about being cast as Dumbledore. So he said,
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  Speaker 3: I'm honored to have been trusted with the keys to
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  Speaker 3: Elvis Dumbledore and thrilled to be able to take him
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  Speaker 3: around the track of this beautiful incarnation by Potter More
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  Speaker 3: and Audible. I'm also deeply conscious of previous drivers Richard Harris,
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  Speaker 3: Go Gammon, Jude Law and the iconic narrations by Jim
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  Speaker 3: Dale and my colleague Sir Stephen Fry. Just below the horizon,
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  Speaker 3: but headed our way is the rough beast, John Lithgow
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  Speaker 3: his hour come round at last. This is great company
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  Speaker 3: and it's a privilege to be among their number. That
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  Speaker 3: was sweet. Riz Ahmed will be voicing Professor Snape. He
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  Speaker 3: also sounds great already from the clip. The casting that
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  Speaker 3: I am the most like, I don't know, excited about,
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  Speaker 3: but also perplexed by, is Matthew mcpadon as Lord Baldemore,
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  Speaker 3: because like, he's my mister Darcy and I love his voice,
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  Speaker 3: and he's gonna be voicing Lord Baldemore. So I again, well,
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  Speaker 3: you know with this when we have these like conflicting
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  Speaker 3: casting sometimes, but I was so excited to hear what
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  Speaker 3: he does with it. And Michelle Gomez, who I love
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  Speaker 3: term doctor who be voicing Professor McGonagall. It's really exciting announcements.
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  Speaker 3: In my opinion, I think so.
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  Speaker 2: Far I just realized he is the one. He's doing Voldemort.
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  Speaker 3: He is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I love Matthew mcfaden, so yeah, I feel like, how can.
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  Speaker 2: You not love that movie?
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  Speaker 3: Right, He's just he's just great. But in the clip too,
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  Speaker 3: we do get a little bit of like a teaser
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  Speaker 3: of his voice as Lord Valdemore, and he sounds they
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  Speaker 3: all sound so great, Like it's just I'm so excited
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  Speaker 3: for this project, and I have already pre ordered the
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  Speaker 3: first one, waiting for more Audible credits to get the others.
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  Speaker 3: But the first installment, which you know, of course, is
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  Speaker 3: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Slash Sorcerer's Stone is slated
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  Speaker 3: for release on Nomer November fourth of this year. Chamber
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  Speaker 3: of Secrets will be releasing December sixteenth of this year.
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  Speaker 3: Prisoner of Azkaban releases January thirteenth of twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 3: Dabblet of Fire will be releasing February tenth of twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty six. Order of the Phoenix on March tenth, twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty six. Halfwoot prints April fourteenth, twenty twenty six, and
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  Speaker 3: the series will be culminating obviously with Deathly Hallo's releasing
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  Speaker 3: on May twelfth, twenty twenty six. Yeah, but you can
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  Speaker 3: go and pre order the entire series through Audible right now,
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  Speaker 3: or you could be like me and wait for your
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  Speaker 3: monthly credit and then use it to pre order. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm really really very excited about this.
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  Speaker 2: This is really this is really really great opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: just give the stories in you and you light and
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  Speaker 2: see them under this new lens. And also I just
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  Speaker 2: really I recall back in like twenty thirteen something, I
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  Speaker 2: remember rereading some of the books and just I downloaded
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  Speaker 2: apps with sound effects just to immerse myself. So I
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  Speaker 2: remember being like, I'd be reading I don't know, a
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  Speaker 2: chapter at the Weasley's and there will be like this music,
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  Speaker 2: like very full Florian music going on, and then like
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  Speaker 2: rain sounds and you could just you know, you could
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  Speaker 2: just adjust the settings because you could have like music
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  Speaker 2: and then rain and then wind and everything, and you
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  Speaker 2: would just like and I would just play it with
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  Speaker 2: that and say, seeing that this is actually now coming
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  Speaker 2: to fruition is very exciting because it's like, wow, this
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  Speaker 2: is like I don't know, twenty year old me wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have thought that this was going to happen down the world.
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  Speaker 1: So good, great way to do a reread.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's overdue by now, like like seriously, they're
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  Speaker 2: just my books are just too dusty by now, so
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  Speaker 2: I really need to get back to reading them at
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  Speaker 2: some point, and this seems to be a good, good opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I actually was. I was really surprised by
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  Speaker 3: this announcement, Like I think obviously it just kind of
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  Speaker 3: can't like there was no like lead up. I don't
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  Speaker 3: there was no leaks of it happening. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: like it just one day I opened Instagram and there
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  Speaker 3: was Audible with their little video they put together. But
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  Speaker 3: at the same time, I'm like, wow, I can't believe
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  Speaker 3: it's actually taken this long for us to do like
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  Speaker 3: an on like an an audio drama of this, because
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  Speaker 3: that is really popular right now. A lot of other
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  Speaker 3: you know, popular book series do these full cast kind
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  Speaker 3: of audio dramas. But I think this one will be
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  Speaker 3: even a bigger production than some of those other stories.
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  Speaker 3: So and yeah, I'm really excited to get more casting
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  Speaker 3: announcements because I mean, clearly they've already been able to
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  Speaker 3: pull some pretty big hitters here.
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  Speaker 2: So did they say did they say anything that it
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  Speaker 2: will be available on dobby appmos or something like it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be surround sounder or.
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  Speaker 3: So, I don't know. I mean, it's it's an Audible exclusive,
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know if I've never seen in like
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  Speaker 3: the Audible app like that that they have that, But
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that they can't get that for this,
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  Speaker 3: but right now, I haven't seen anything about like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: if it'll be like lossless or a Dolly at Most
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  Speaker 3: or or anything like that, if that's even built into
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  Speaker 3: like the Audible app. I mean, I know, like Amazon
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  Speaker 3: Music does have good quality when it comes to me,
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  Speaker 3: it's more comparable to like Apple Music than like Spotify is.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe an Amazon or Audible is an Amazon company.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess we'll see. I think it'll I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure it'll sound great either, you know, either way. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's a good question. Mhm, Well, we'll see when a
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  Speaker 3: Sorcerer's Stone drops into my audible app on November fourth,
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  Speaker 3: we'll let you know how it sounds. So yeah. So
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  Speaker 3: then we also got news that Krispy Kreme Donut Company
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  Speaker 3: is also coming out with a back to Hogwarts collection.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody is just jumping on so that back to Hogwarts
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  Speaker 3: train literally did not mean to make that pun at all.
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  Speaker 3: So the collection is going to feature obviously donuts for
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  Speaker 3: each of the Hogwarts houses. There's also going to be
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  Speaker 3: a sorting hat donut that's going to be a fun,
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  Speaker 3: little you know, surprise. I'm assuming you bite into it
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  Speaker 3: and the cream on the inside will search in one
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  Speaker 3: of the houses. And there's also going to be a
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  Speaker 3: Golden Snitch latte, So if you had to Krispykreme dot com,
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  Speaker 3: you can see what all of these donuts are going
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  Speaker 3: to look like. It also includes all like the ingredients
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  Speaker 3: or like what the taste profile is going to be.
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  Speaker 3: I believe I remember right. The Golden Switch latte is
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  Speaker 3: like a cookie butter kind of themed. And yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 3: really jealous because there is not Krispy Kreme around me.
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  Speaker 3: The closest one is over one hundred and twenty miles away,
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  Speaker 3: and as much as I love Harry Potter and donuts,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm going to make the two
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  Speaker 3: hout to be able to try these.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely will.
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  Speaker 3: There's lots of Krispy Krave in the UK.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there's actually one in the middle of Dublin Centers,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm going to be heading out there. The collection
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  Speaker 2: is coming out August eighteenth, and I think it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be there for like two or three weeks, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm definitely gonna give it a try. And it even
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  Speaker 2: comes with his like collectible box. I'm very excited to. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So so we'll see we'll get We're gonna give a
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  Speaker 2: little review on that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you might have to do a little taste test
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  Speaker 3: maybe for our patreon. That's a supporter, that's.
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  Speaker 2: A good one. Yeah, yeah, I might. I might do it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, cheeky little promo here if you want to see
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  Speaker 3: ye possibly taste testing these and maybe also getting resorted.
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  Speaker 3: If he gets that sorting hat donnut head over to
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  Speaker 3: our patreon.
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  Speaker 1: He might. Yeah, he might lose his Griffin your identity here,
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  Speaker 1: No way.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 1: If the donut says, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, the sorting hat, you know he can be wrong,
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  Speaker 3: Like the donut is all knowing that's true.
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  Speaker 1: In donuts, we trust.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no more nervous because my fate is in the
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  Speaker 2: hands of a donut.
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  Speaker 3: I have to say, though, the sorting hat donut actually
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  Speaker 3: looks really good. And the irony two of all of
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  Speaker 3: this is that the donut that like calls my name
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  Speaker 3: the most is actually the Slytherin donut. And I'm not
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  Speaker 3: just saying that because I'm a Slytherin, like genuinely, like
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  Speaker 3: if I were to have all these donuts in a
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  Speaker 3: lineup and like reading their ingredients, I actually would probably
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  Speaker 3: go for that one. It is the most a plane
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  Speaker 3: I would say of the four, which is actually why Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I would probably go for it. But they all look
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  Speaker 3: really good, and the.
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  Speaker 1: Huffle and the Griffin doors sound the best thing they do.
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  Speaker 3: I just they sound super sweet to me, like they've
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  Speaker 3: got a lot of flavors going on, and I'm like
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  Speaker 3: a plane donut kind of gale, like a sour cream
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  Speaker 3: original blaze, So that's why. Yeah, but they look so good,
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  Speaker 3: and I yeah, the box is super cool. I would
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  Speaker 3: have trouble throwing that away, like after Yeah, this is
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  Speaker 3: definitely a collab that I never saw coming. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: I will say too though that if you don't have
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  Speaker 3: a Krispy Kream near you, They also, like on the
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  Speaker 3: website do say that the specialty six count assorted donuts
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  Speaker 3: will be available at select retailers, and they mentioned that
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  Speaker 3: that's including Walmart, Kroger, Public's, State or Brothers, and more stores.
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  Speaker 3: So and it also says that the donuts listed above
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  Speaker 3: will also be available as loose donuts and select convenience stores,
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  Speaker 3: so we might see these pop up in other places
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  Speaker 3: if you don't have an actual Krispy Kreme in your location,
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  Speaker 3: so I might have to like dig into that a
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  Speaker 3: little deeper to see if there's any places around me
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  Speaker 3: that I've seen like Krispy Kreme donuts in like convenience
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  Speaker 3: stores and stuff around me, but not even though I
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  Speaker 3: don't have a standalone location at yeah, so maybe maybe
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  Speaker 3: I will get to partake in the fun. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there is on the website you there's a participating I
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  Speaker 3: think I mentioned that's Krispy Kreme Locations where you can
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  Speaker 3: pop in your city, state or zip code if you're
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  Speaker 3: in the States, and it'll give you your closest donut shops.
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  Speaker 3: So if you like donuts, check that out. Actually, starting
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  Speaker 3: the day after we're recording tomorrow was the eighteenth yep. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: We've had really lots of really good Harry Potter food
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  Speaker 3: this year, like you know, with butter beer season and everything,
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  Speaker 3: so and then some you know, of course, we're always
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  Speaker 3: going to have some TV show news, I feel like.
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  Speaker 3: So the last couple of bits here are related to
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  Speaker 3: the TV show. So we have seen that the Hogwarts
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  Speaker 3: Express appears to be on its way to the WB
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  Speaker 3: studios for filming. Some photos have surfaced on social media
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  Speaker 3: of the sixty nine eighty nine White Wick Hall locomotive
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  Speaker 3: painted and red and looking very much like our iconic Hogwarts.
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  Speaker 3: Express very curious how you feel, Tom, because it looks
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  Speaker 3: like a spot On replica. I thought of you immediately.
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  Speaker 3: But it's on the back of a truck and it
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  Speaker 3: is being moved somewhere, so we can only assume it
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  Speaker 3: is on its way for filming.
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  Speaker 1: But again, the book specifies the color of the locomotive.
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  Speaker 3: True, this is so much.
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  Speaker 2: I'm interested in seeing the add ons to it because
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  Speaker 2: when you see the illustrated books and you see like
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  Speaker 2: the illustration has been potter more, the core of it
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  Speaker 2: is essentially the same, but it's the different elements that
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  Speaker 2: get you know, at it later that give it its
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  Speaker 2: unique touch among all of the depictions that we've seen
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  Speaker 2: so far. So, I mean, the locomotive was actually hasn't
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  Speaker 2: been changed from the first picture that we got. It
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  Speaker 2: was just from green to red from scarlet. So it's
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  Speaker 2: like there's there's not much like it's not like they're
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  Speaker 2: morphing it into something. It's rather than you know, the
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  Speaker 2: locomotives are all the same, especially from those from that
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  Speaker 2: time period, so I'm curious to see what they're going
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  Speaker 2: to add and the fact that they have, that they
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  Speaker 2: brought it into the studio, let's say naked in that
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  Speaker 2: regard makes me think that maybe they don't want to
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  Speaker 2: spoil it and they don't want to give it away
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  Speaker 2: what they're going to do with it. So again, what
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  Speaker 2: we've been discussing like same but different.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, and if you haven't, if you're listening to
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  Speaker 3: this and you haven't seen the picture yet, by like
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  Speaker 3: what Tom means by naked is that it's just red
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  Speaker 3: and black. There is no Hogwarts Express logos on it yet,
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  Speaker 3: there is no detailing on it yet, And so yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I agree that it makes perfect sense that they're bringing
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  Speaker 3: it and to do kind of that detail work behind
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  Speaker 3: behind closed doors.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine if it was like rolling down the
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  Speaker 1: highway in the back of the truck like full on,
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  Speaker 1: like how gourts Express side.
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  Speaker 3: And then I also stumbled upon like what appears to
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  Speaker 3: be another casting announcement that's buzzing around online with some outlets.
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  Speaker 3: But this has not been officially confirmed by any official
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  Speaker 3: outlets that I have seen, and a lot of the
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: outlets that are posting about it are not like your
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: big outlets. But there's some rumors around I'm gonna call
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: them rumors because until we get that official from like HBO,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: to my opinion, it's a rumor. But there's some reports
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  Speaker 3: that a young actor named Aaron Zao has been cast
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  Speaker 3: as Terry Boot, So I guess we'll see if it's true.
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  Speaker 3: It seems like a really random casting for us to
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  Speaker 3: get right now when we haven't gotten other castings, which
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  Speaker 3: also could be why, if this is true, why we
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  Speaker 3: haven't got officially yet, Because they seem to be like
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  Speaker 3: announcing them in batches, and I could see them saving
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  Speaker 3: to do another here's more hogwart students, like in.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: A batch, I could see them like not even announcing
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  Speaker 1: it because Terry bu is like such a non character.
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  Speaker 3: Like I feel like until we get to like Dumbledore's arm,
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  Speaker 3: Like I feel like until we get to that.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's even then like it's probably not gonna have lines.
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  Speaker 1: He's just gonna be there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But I think too, the one thing about this,
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  Speaker 3: like if this casting is true, and I think I
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: don't know if we've talked about this before, if I've
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: just seen it online, but kind of them them casting
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  Speaker 3: these hogwart students that don't really play a role or
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: don't show up until later. I really love that they're
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  Speaker 3: actually like casting them now and it seems like they're
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  Speaker 3: gonna still be a round owned now where I really
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  Speaker 3: like that, Like even if they're in the background, it
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  Speaker 3: just makes it seem like, well, yeah, like these are
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  Speaker 3: the same students that we've watched growing up and going
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  Speaker 3: through Hogwarts, Like why would we see different faces every season?
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  Speaker 3: It's all the same kids that are there, so.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: It's always going to be the same students sitting at
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: the desks in the class. And yeah, right, it just
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: makes sense.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if we fully have that like
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: in the films, it's like I'm cast as an extra
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: in this film and then you never see me again,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: and it's like, but where have you been for the
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: last of your Hogwarts career? And yes, yes, and she
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: loves to talk about being in first, that first film,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: but so yeah, I really like that. And actually that
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: reminds me too of something that I didn't pop in
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: the news that I just thought of that I had
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: shared with you guys in the group chat. So I'm
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: actually gonna pull up if I can find the screenshot
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: that I sent, is that the director has made some
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: comments about how they want this to be more what
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: was it like, more natural, realistic? Real Okay, yes, And
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: so the reason I thought of this is because, like,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I feel like having all your students there and having
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: them grow up and be the same students. I think
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: does and this might not be at all what the
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: director meant, but I think does play into that like realism.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: It seems more realistic. Right, So, the according to a source,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Mark Milloyd, the director of the series, wants this new
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: version to be more realistic and grounded. And so you
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: know they're saying, although it's still obviously going to be
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: a faithful adaptation of the books, it will focus on
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: naturalism as opposed to the stylized looks of the original films. Yeah,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: I totally forgot that. That also kind of was announced, which.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I still don't really understand.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: What that means, but I think, like, yeah, I mean
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: because I don't think that means that we won't get
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I you know what I think it means. I think
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: it means that they are going to be really focused
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: on like natural sets and practical pieces as much as possible.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. When I think naturalism, I think of like naturally
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: occurring on the earth, and like plants and animals.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking about growing against.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Uh, well what does this mean? Well in the woods?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Like they're so vague with some of these statements that
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: it's really hard to grasp what they are actually what
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: they mean with these.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Things sounds like I don't know, I mean, realistic sounds
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: better than like naturalism and all that, But at this I.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Feel like naturalism is not what they meant, like they
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: chose the wrong word.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Well, and I don't understand what is grounded mean.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: But then the films actually are well known to this
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: day to have used an to have made an extensive
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: use of both animatronics and practical sets as opposed to
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: green screen sets. So it's kind of contradictory if it's that,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: because most of the sets were either on location sets
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: or they were built within inside the studio. They the
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: only set that I remember that was fully green screen.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: What the Hall of Prophecies That was the only one
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: that was like three hundred and sixty degree green screen,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: But the rest of it has been mostly relied on
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: practical so I don't know. And even the model was
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: an actual model so of the castle, So I don't
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: know what they could actually mean by that, Like are
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: they gonna take away the whims you know, the whimsicle
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: element or I don't know what. It's very vague. I
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: think they need to expand a little bit of on that,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: like but without giving too much away obviously, but it's
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: a little confusing.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: M I think it's like it's got a lot of
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: people like talking online and like a lot of people worried,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: and like, I don't think we need to be worried.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: I think it's just I think, like you said, Amy,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: it's just like an interesting choice of words that maybe
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: don't fully capture, like what like is trying to be
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: portrayed here because too like at the end of the day,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: like how realistic can you make a wizarding school? We
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: don't have that in the real world. And I actually
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: think that the films did a really good job, Like
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: the films, in my opinion, don't look like super outlandish
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: or like this couldn't be something that's naturally occurring in
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: the real world. Like I think they did a good
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: job capturing that, whereas there are some you know, fantasy
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: or things you know that it really looks like this
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: would never occur like in our real world. This is
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: definitely a completely different world. And I think them filming
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: on location for the films helps make it real, Like
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: they're in the real train stations, they're on the real
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: streets of London like that, that's real.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: So yeah, probably what they mean. Yeah, but they did that.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: For the film, so I don't really I don't really
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: know what that means. I guess we'll see. I hope
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: that maybe like he elaborates that on some point, because
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: a lot of people have been confused.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: You know, as my students would say, he's just yeah,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: he's a yeah.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Forer, he's a yeaher.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: We should run it through chat BT and what what
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: it mean?
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I have to do that to do that? What do
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: you think is meant by this? I mean maybe a
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: good segue actually until our last bit of news is
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: that actually just this morning before recording, I stumbled upon
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: some new footage that is emerged from filming, which obviously,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: you know, we talked about very recently the stuff that
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: we had had. But this is more scenes of Harry
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: and Hagrid out filming in London, and there are so
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: many nineties styled cars in this scene and it looks
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: so great and to me, like, is that what they
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: mean by like realistic and grounded, like maybe, but the
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: films didn't make like whims like in the Muggle world.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: It was the regular cars in the Muggle world. So yeah,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, but like this footage
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: looks really good. We get a really good look at
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: like Hagrid next to Harry, they're full and them in
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: full costume. It gives us a really good look at
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Like I mentioned, there's a lot of nineties all the
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: cars driving around, our ninety styled cars that we would
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: not see today. So they're definitely committed to the time period,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: which I mean we already knew after you know, the
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: outfits that we saw. We also got a look in
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: some of the film or some of the clips at
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: neck Frost's body double for Hagrid. Yeah, it's still I mean,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: I think it still looks I'm still on the train
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: that so far I'm looking what I see.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just cool to see them out and
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: about filming. It just makes it exciting and that much
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: more real.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: So realistic and grounded.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: It's so grounded with their feet on the ground, just grounded.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, in all seriousness, though, I guess
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: we have to like really kind of like eat up
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: any of this footage that we can get because you know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: we don't get a lot of like soon we're not
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: going to get anything right because they're going to transition
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: fully to sets and everything like that. It's kind of
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: like we only really have if you think about that
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: first season, the only thing that we'd really get out
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: in the real world is you know, them filming at
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: the London Zoo, Harry taking Hagrid, Hagrid taking Harry to
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: you know, Diagonaley and to taking him to King's Cross Station.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: But other than that, we're at Hogwarts. We obviously won't
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: see any of that, so I'll take what we can
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: get while they're still filming the Muggle world scenes. M Yeah,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: that's it for the news over the last couple of
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: weeks since we recorded.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: All right, So now for our main discussion, we are
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: going to talk about some of the magical objects that
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: would get throughout the series, some of the more interesting ones.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: So first up, we've got the putouter, or the illuminator
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: as it later became known. So the use of this
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: object is obviously to remove or return light from a
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: light source. It looks like a lighter, And this one
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: was interesting to me for a few reasons. One it
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: was invented by Dumbledore. Two it has two uses, so
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: taking out and returning light to light sources, and that
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: weird magic that happened with Braun to return him to
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Harry and Hermione. So I don't know, whenever I see
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: like something that's like invented by somebody in the magical world,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: it always just gets me thinking about, like, how the
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: heck do you invent magical objects. It's just like a
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: bunch of trial and error with a bunch of spells.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I guess, I don't know.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Well, I think this one's interesting too, because you know
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: how like there's a lot of theories out there about
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Dumbledore and like how much he like knew about the future,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: And there's a lot, I mean, there's so many crazy
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: theories of him, like time traveling to see like what
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: has to happen and like all And the thing is
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: that a lot of these theories I don't know if
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: I buy into them because they seem like super outlandish.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, then things like this come
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: up in this magical object that comes up that just
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: seems to have the most perfect uses for very specific situations,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: and it's created by Dumbledore, who is like super mysterious
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: and just seems to know Like like, how does he
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: even know all that he knows? I think, especially like
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: talking about you know, yeah, that weird magic that happened
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: with Ron, Like how do you even I don't even
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: And it's like when if you're making this okay, so
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: you're gonna think about the actual like use of it,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the practical use of removing the light and putting it back.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: So probably Loomis and Knox cast somewhere on this object
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: with other spells to make it do this thing, But
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: how do you then jump to? Oh? But also I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: need this object to lead someone back to these other
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: people sometime in the future. That's That's why.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, like like, is there actually maybe some credibility
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: to these weird theories of Dumbledore? And he is just
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: way far more mysterious than we ever believe that he is.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: And like, right, because yeah, those uses almost seem like
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: you would need two separate objects for those, right.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Like is this an intentional second use or is this something.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: The like?
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: But he had to have known that it could do
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: this because he left it to Ron.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, it is intentional. I think everything is intentional with Dumbledore.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Well my thought thing my I guess my other thing
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: too is like does that whatever that that secondary? I
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: don't even know what to call it, right, I guess
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: the leading you back?
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it is still like technically, like
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: dealing with light, you're.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: You're leading, You're taking the light away and like putting
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: it back and lead. So it's still got that.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Light leading someone towards the light.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's just that light is like within some a person.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: I I think that. Like my question is like, does
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: that that particular aspect of the put outer only work
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: on Ron? Like was that specifically meant because Dumbledore knew
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: that in the future, Ron would be the one that
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: would I mean, it's it is there is a whole
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: other story there that we're missing.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Like mm, Like how did Dumbledore realize that his invention
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: could do this because he traveled in the future, But
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: did he like did he click the illuminator one day
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: and the light went into him and he followed it
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: to Grindelwald. I don't know, like.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: How we could know if we had more fantastic beafs films.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: That's right, give us film four.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, please, and give us how he invented the illuminator.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: But I think the Fantastic Beasts and the Little Ball
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: of Light.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it was obviously intentional and
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: the fact that he gave each of them a specific
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: object that only that they could unravel. So Hermione was
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: giving the tales of Beatle the Bard for that specific
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: reason that she could. You know, she was the the
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: smartest in the group, and she would obviously kind of
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: like see why he would give her those bedtime stories
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: and then then Harry this niche because he knew that
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: he would then you know, it was specifically for him.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: And so I think he's somehow you know, he could
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: foresee that Ron would need it eventually, and out of
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: the three, he would be the one that would be
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: most probably vulnerable, and uh and yeah, like it's uh,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: it's very interesting to think about why, why and how
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: did he know that that was actually going to be
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: needed by Ron? And but he was a very smart man,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Like whenever you you see him, or you you know
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: you're reading it, or you can tell that he knows
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: more than than what he's you know, saying and he
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: always has something up his sleeve and he's so wise,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: and it's it's not it's not surprising, you know, to
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: see that he that he even if he knew, like
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh yeah, like of course he knew why,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: you know, would give these objects to each of them,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: but yeah, like I think it's interesting to think and
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: if he knew about this second use, and I'm thinking
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: he probably experienced it for sure.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: He was like sneaking around and like seeing the dynamic
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: between Harry and Ron and Goblet of Fire and just knew,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: like this is the seeds Ron is going to eventually
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: like snap even more, which I mean, and that's true,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: like that was always I think the first like it
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: just was always set up that Ron was going to
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: be the one that would be kind of the most
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: affected and venture off. And but of course he was
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: always going to come back, right, Like he was always
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: going to come back. But I think, right, and that's
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: his that's his that's his best friend and you know Hermione,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: he says, his girl, and like, you know, it's it's
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: just you know, of course he was going to come back.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: But I think that those seeds were definitely planted and
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: goble a fire when we see Ron's reaction to you know,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Harry being chosen and all of that. And I think
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Dumbledore also, you know, saw too, and he always you know,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I think he saw a lot more than we know,
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: of course, And I also, yeah, I don't know. I
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: think I still think there's he's very intelligent, but it's
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: scary sometimes about what he seems to know about the
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: future or what needs to happen in the future. And
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I don't know. I think there's more
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: that i've Yeah, And I think the the invention of
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: this object just shows how mysteriously intelligent he is.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, which also begs the question why did he
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: feel the need to invent this object? Why was he
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: trying to take away light and hide?
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: I love how in the doc you have getting up
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: to shady business, you.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Know, Dumbledore shady guy.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Well, then it's like, when did he invent this too? Like,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I think that is a big question for what the
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: intention of it would be. Like, I mean, he he
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: literally had this back in his like you know, friendship
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: or more with grendelvald days situationship. Yeah, like when they
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: were kind of sneaking around about the deadly, you know,
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: like they had there were some dark like not.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Not them actually sneaking around around.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about them sneaking around, but like but
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: maybe like I love that pairing so much, but I
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: mean from like a like a like what they were
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: kind of getting up to, like magically.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Now I'm mad because I'm sure we would have gotten
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: something related to the Illuminator in the next Fantastic Fees film. Yeah,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I'm one of that.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will forever be upset about this because, like
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: I know, for a lot of people, like their favorite
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: part of the Fantastic Beast series was New and the Beasts,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: but for me, it was always the story of Dumbledore
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: and Grendel Fuld. Like, when I found that that was
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: where we were going with it, I was like, wow,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I am locked in, and I am so mad that
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: I am par now specifically deprived of that story.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel we're in the minority here because
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: most people were very much annoyed by the fact that
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: they got to introduce this other parallel story which kind
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: of like merged into mute story and they're like, no,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: they could have just left it at the Beast. But
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, no, I'm so happy that we're getting
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: like an actual prequel to Harry Potter and just have.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: To be more. You couldn't just stick with Newton the
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Beast film. Yeah, like every film his Beasts are going
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: to get out.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna hold David Yates accountable
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: for this and saying that it's parked for now, it's
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: not canceled, So let's see, let's see what happens. I'm
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: optimistic honestly, because there is time to come up with
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: these other movies. If there's something that's good about this
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: is that we're not dealing with these kids or you know,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: childcasts or you know, it's people who are growing up,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: and this story takes that has like a time span
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: of twenty plus years, so there's plenty of time to
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: maybe I think honestly, they're just waiting a little bit
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: more and then you know, bring it back to the
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: to the big screen. So yeah, and we'll have that
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: answer to the Illuminator.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think that that those films are like
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: the perfect because I could see, like, did Grindibald maybe
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: have a role in helping the creation of this right,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: That's why I said, I think the timing of when
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: he invented this is so key to knowing why he
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: felt so compelled to invent a device like this. Yeah,
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: very interesting.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: So next on our list is the time turner. Obviously
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: we use is time travel.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: It's a really good segue from us talking about Dumbledore
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: in these theories of how he knew so much about
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: the future.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: That's right, But can you use a time turner to
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: travel to the future.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Dumbledore can do whatever the heck he wants. I think
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: he's got He's.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Got time turner that he invented that can go either way.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't put I wouldn't. I wouldn't if someone told
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: me that, I'd be like, you know what, like you're
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: just like you could really be onto something there.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: So we do have quite a bit of writing from
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: JK Rolling about time turners from the old Plattermor site,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: and so from this writing, it seems that time turners
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: were invented quite a long time ago, since experiments were
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: being conducted as far back as eighteen ninety nine, when
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: a witch named Elouise min Tumble got stuck in the
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: year fourteen oh two to travel from eighteen ninety nine
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: to fourteen oh.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Two, we don't know how she traveled, right, because this
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: was before they had the official time turner. It's like
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: you're saying, like, essentially this that event of her somehow
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: traveling back and getting stuck is kind of what was
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: the impetus to start studying time travel, and.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: So studying it was going on actively or creating a
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: tool or creating like an instrument to help. So yeah,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: the ministry approved time turners have like, uh a charm
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: on them so that it like goes back by the hour,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: so like the turns correspond with the hour. So I
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: don't know what it was that Alwai's Mintumble used. Maybe
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: it didn't have that ability and she was just like, yeah,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: throw the dice, here we go.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Well, they were very very experimental back then, and you know,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: pretty reckless too, so would it be surprising.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously we know from the Harry Potter books that
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: they figured out it's not safe to travel back farther
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: than five hours into the past. That's quite a bit
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: more than five hours. So on her way back once
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: she got unstuck, min Tumble aged so rapidly upon her
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: return obviously that's hundreds of years and she died in
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: the hospital. So my question is, and Curse Child, why
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: didn't Scorpius and Elvis age at all when they traveled
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: back and forth several years, wouldn't they, like and all
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: the others who go to Godric's Hollow come back forty
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: years older.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: This is the case.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's Curse Child. So none of you
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: know it's you could just bring it down like say, no,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: it's not canon.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: So but it's like supposed to be or like you
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, it's Marcus, it is the eighth story.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's I feel like the intention is
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: for it to be, but there's just too many like
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: plot holes and research.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: No.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Well, and I mean I don't understand because of like obviously,
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: like like the author's involvement with it, like like did
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: she forget her own rules for time travel? Like I
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: don't know. I mean I think like with Cursechild, the
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: problem is is that it's like they had to do
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: it for the plot, But in my thing, it's like, Okay,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: why couldn't we have just come up with a different
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: plot that didn't break the cannon versus breaking the cannon
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: to fit the plot. Yeah, of course, when I watch
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Curse Child. I don't think of this. I just really
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: love Curse Child, and it's it's separate thing, but yeah,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: it's a major it's a major thing because I feel
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: like there's such a focus on you can't try, Yeah,
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: you can't travel more and yeah wow m hm.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: And if you're going to do it, and you're going
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: to break that rule, and that's the whole point is
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: like in Curse Child, we see how badly things can
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: get messed up by doing this and breaking the rule,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: then you got to stick to every aspect of that rule,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: right yeah, and you would have to age the amount
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: of time that then you move forward. I don't know, just.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: I think time to time travel is always like a
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: very tricky thing to introduce into your universe because it
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I mean I watch a lot of different or watch
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: or read or you know whatever, a lot of different
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: medias that involve time travel, and it's always different in
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: every universe, right, Like, you almost can write it however
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: you want, but I think you have to be like
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: so careful like when you introduce it, because it's so
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: easy to come up with these plot holes. And I
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: think JKR even said something. I think we've talked about
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: this in like a prior episode, and I think it's
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: in these writings where she talked about like ultimately that's
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: why she made the decision to have all the time
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Turners destroyed, because she needed to have time travel and
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: a way of I had to create the time Turner
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: in a way to time travel for a very specific plot,
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: but didn't need it to then be like, Okay, well
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: you could change everything because why didn't they just go
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: back and kill Baltimore? Why didn't they just do this?
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Why didn't they just do that? But I feel like
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: as much as you try to do something like destroy
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: the time Turners, you still can uncover plot holes or
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: what ifs.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Then you've got some playwrights who are like, oh, well
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: what if one survived well?
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: And not even that, like it's like well right, And
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: then it's like we've talked about how like at Epic Universe,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: like the whole basis of that park is time Turners.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Again, people are just fascinating that time travel.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, I am so I totally understand it, but yes.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: And it's my favorite prop. I always tell this, but
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I have like a collection of sixers having different time Turners.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Oh and they're like my favorite.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Ever, Tommy, you would love that I got. I was
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: really good and only got one pack. But at Epic
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Universe they have a mystery pin box that is time
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: turner and there's like I don't remember, I don't like
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: the it's like four or five like different variations of
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: time turners that you can get, which are the same
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: time turners you see like in the Battle of the
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Ministry ride when you're in the time room. And then
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: the Chaser pin is like our traditional timeturner that you
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: that were used to from the films, which was the
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: one I really wanted and I got on my first
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: box because there's little tricks that you can do to
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: like see which one of it, Like it shakes and
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: you can hear the chain and it's heavier than the others.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: But yeah, but it's a really cool pin set because
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: it's got all these different versions of time turner and.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I think you like it, Yes, yes, give it to me.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: If I remember, I will send you a picture. I
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: think I still have the box.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, I kept the box.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: I'll send it to you. But yeah, all right.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: So up next is the Penzi. It is used to
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: store and review memories. Dumbledore says it's easier to sort
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: through them and spot patterns when they're in this form.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: In the basin, we have some etymology here, so pensive
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: without any means thoughtful or reflective, and a sieve is
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: something used to drain something and sort or sift out things,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: so like sorting through the memories and the thoughts. So interestingly, though,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: onl like time travel, someone diving into a penzive is
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: not an active participant in the past, so the memory
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: plays out around them as if they're not there, which
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: is kind of cool.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: I think that this is one of the coolest magical
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: objects that we get in the series, like now that
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: I really think about it, and how like helpful and
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: that maybe that segue as well into this question that
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: you put here in the dock Amy.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so my question was are they rare? And if
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: they're not rare, why don't we see where people have them?
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Like Snape seems to be borrowing dumbledores instead of having
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: his own.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I wonder is the pensive maybe a Dumbledore invention.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe Yeah, we never really get a lot of background
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: on these, but it just seems like it would be
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: one of the most useful magical objects to have because
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: how often are you trying to recall something and like
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of the details are there, but like it's
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: hard when you're viewing it from one perspective. But if
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: you could just drop into it as a bystander and
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: watch it unfold, then you can get like a really good,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: like unbiased read of that memory.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Because you don't see it through first person. You see
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: it in third person, which is like completely unbiased.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Right, You're seeing things happening that maybe we're out of
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: your life of sight.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Even makes it even more I have never thought of
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: it that way. I mean, it is, it is pretty
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: evident when you see the films that they are there
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: in third person. But I was always wondering if it
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: was probably something that you would because again I don't
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: remember in the books, but it was if it was
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: something that you would be seeing through the lens of
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: the person. Uh. But the fact that you are actually
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: seeing it from that perspective just makes it even better
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: and you know, much more interesting. And I wouldn't be
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: surprised at all if this was something that Dumbledore created
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: and he's the sole owner of a pencive.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: I have something bad about that, actually, because I was
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: just doing some impromptu research. Well we were talking about that, yeah,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: and there there is some and now this is just
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: quick obviously like from the Harry Potter wikie, but the
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: sources on this article are the chapter thirty the Pencive
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: from Harry Potter is Noble a Fire, as well as
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: a writing by JK. Rowling called Pencive on Harry Potter
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: dot com so a Pottermore writing. So it describes the
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: pencive as being very rare, and also they're rare because
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: only the most advanced wizards ever use them and the
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: majority of wizards are afraid of using them. It also
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: talks about how, like the Hogwarts pencive, the owners are
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: listed as all of the headmasters and headmistresses of Hogwarts.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: So was it potentially Yes, the location is the headmaster's office,
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: so that makes me wonder if it's been there prior
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: to Dumbledore and he just kind of inherited it when
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: he was head master. But would make sense why you've
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: got your head master and headmistresses using it, or like
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: if it's like only the most advanced like witches and
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: wizards use it, it makes sense and it does haven
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: here in this wiki article. Again, like linking to these
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: two sources, and maybe I need to go back and
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: reread the penceive chapter and definitely need to reread this
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: writing by JK. Rowling about the pencive, but it.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Says that.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Pencis are were intensely personal, since memories often held recollections
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: of things one would wish to hide or forget unless
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: the witch or wizard in question requested otherwise. Their pence,
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: even all the memories it contained, was typically buried with
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: them when they die, same as their Wand however, the
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Hogwarts pencive did not belong to a particular person but
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: to the school, and it was used by the various
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: headmaster and headmistresses of the school over the years. Sorry,
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: I just saw that, and I was like, that's very interesting.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, not all memories are created equal, right,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: some are a little bit more unreliable than others. But
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: the mind and memory is like such an interesting thing
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: and that you can remember such little tiny details but
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: not really realize you remember it, and like different parts
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: of your memory can come up at different times. So
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: it was kind of interesting if you're to think of it,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: like in a PENSI would those memories ever change like
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: if you were to view it at one point, would
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: there be gaps and maybe like even like things in
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: the background that are missing. But then like the next
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: time you view it, your memory comes up and like
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: fills in the holes of like something on a shelf
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: in the background, or like other little details that like
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: it remembers later. Hmmm, because if you think about, like you,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: this happens a lot in like crime and stuff like that,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: where like somebody like a witness remembers a detail later
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: down the road that they didn't necessarily remember the first
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: time they tell the story.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Right, Like, in a way, your memory that you're reliving
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: in the pencive is really only as good as the
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: recollection was at the time of extraction. And so and
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: actually I just pulled up the writing by JK. Rowling
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: on Harry Potter dot Com with the pencive and it,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: you know, it does talk about how, you know, the
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: pencive is enchanted to recreate memories so that they become loveable,
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: taking every detail stored in the subconscious and recreating it faithfully.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: That is very interesting because if it's taking the memory
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: from the subconscious, can it pull In my opinion, that's
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: meaning it can pull details that you can't even recollect yourself. Yeah,
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: so it's actually a more so, I guess, reversing what
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: I just said, it's it could it could be an
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: even more accurate retelling than what you could say, because
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: you're going to forget those little details that are still there, right,
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: They're still in there. You just can't pull every detail.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: But whatever is in the magic that pulls the memory
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: from your brain and puts it in the pencil, that
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: can recreate those details that you can't subcon or that
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: you can't consciously pull.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is why Dubledore says it's the best way
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: to spot details and patterns.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: But I was also thinking, how its Slughorn, you know,
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: tamper with it, with it exactly If it's unbiased, how
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: did he manage to do that?
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if we can say it's
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: un biased. I mean, I know it's saying like I know,
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: I just said, it takes every detail and it recreates
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: it faithfully. However, I think, like I think Slughorn is
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: also a powerful advanced wizard, and I think with anything,
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: there's somebody out there that probably has the magic or
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: the magical ability to circumvent something like I don't think
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: anything is fool proof, And clearly slug Horn found a
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: way to manipulate this process and tamper this process. I
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: don't think just anybody could do that. I think that
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: obviously the memory that he was trying to cover up
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: was a very important memory to cover up, and that
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: could have also played a role in how he was
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: able to successfully do it. I don't know, there's definitely
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: some dark magic there that I don't think just anybody
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: could do. M hm, interesting mmm, I mean I don't
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: think that we could use the pencive as like another
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: form of like verit to serum like, you're not remembering
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: the detail, so I'm going to pull your memory and
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: it's going to tell me what I really want to know. Like,
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's ever going to be the purpose
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: of it. Maybe if you think really hard, you can
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: tamper with it. But that's yeah, that's a whole other story. Yeah,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: is how is he able to to tamper with that
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: memory because obviously the real memory was still there though, right,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: like we eventually see the real mamor it, Yes, like
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: after it was extracted, he'd somehow put some spell on it,
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, the real memory
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: of what really happened was still there. Like if we
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: think of how they portray it in the film, it's
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: like it's the full memory. It's just like the word
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: is just like, yeah, it's muffled, but the word is
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: still being said. So he didn't change the memory. He
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: just found a way to change this what you heard.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: But he did change the ending when he says I
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: know nothing about that sort of magic and getting right here.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: So he did change that little part.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: But then we ultimately see the real thing. So the
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: real thing was extracted.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: It's like he like put like a little like patch
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: over the part.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah he planted fake, fake.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Memories, but at the end of the day, what was
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: hold for what was pulled out was still the real.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: The real deal.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah he edited it post he did.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: He did a little splicing. Okay, all right. So then
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: we have the invisibility cloak, which obviously renders the wearer invisible.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: So we know that these are often either made out
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: of Dune Guy's hair or our regular cloaks with disillusionment
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: charms cast on them. And the only true invisibility cloak
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: is Harry's which has been passed down through generations, so
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: if the story is to be believed, it was created
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: by Death himself, or more likely the Peverils were just
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: really really good wizards and found a way to make
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: this invisibility cloak. There was better than the other conventional
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: methods out there, so we kind of know how the
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Scott passed down to Harry as well. JK. Rowling again
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: on Pottermore in the writing about the Pottermore family, says
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: quote Linfred's eldest son, Hardwin, married a beautiful young witch
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: by the name of Iolanthe Peverel, who came from the
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: village of Godrick's Hollow. She was the granddaughter of a
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: notice Peveril. In the absence of male heirs, she the
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: eldest of her generation, had inherited her grandfather's invisibility cloak.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: It was Iolant. It was iolanthe explained to hard when
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: a tradition in her family that the possession of this
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: cloak remained a secret, and her new husband respected her wishes.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: From this time on, the cloak was handed down to
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: the eldest in each new generation. James got it when
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: his parents passed away from Dragon pox and then obviously
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Harry got it. So another interesting invention. As we talked
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: about Dumbledore's inventing the illuminator, the pover rolls inventing this
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: is pretty interesting. I would love to know the magic
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: behind that.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: I think, and also like the intent. It's kind of
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: like what you were saying.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: With the.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: You know, what sparked Dumbledore wanting to create the illuminator?
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: Like what sparked them wanting to create an invisibility cloak?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: Were they trying to hide from something? Did they feel
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: that they needed to have something available in their family
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: to hide from something? And of course, like the story
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: that we get and beatle the Bard, right, like gives
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: a meaning to the cloak, right, We're trying to, you know,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: hide from death. The brother's trying to hide from death
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: and then passes it on to his son so that
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: his son can hide from death. And but it's like
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: you said, it's like, that's kind of like the story
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  Speaker 3: when in reality that was probably yeah, just a meaning
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  Speaker 3: given to it for the sake of the story. But
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: what was the real reason that somebody woke up one
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  Speaker 3: day and said, I mean, I guess someone could just
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: wake up one day and be like, I want to
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  Speaker 3: have an invisibility cloak, like because how cool would it
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: be to just, you know, have a cloak and be
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: invisible and do whatever you want. But it's like, if
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: the magic was there to do it, why has it
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: never been done before? And why is there really only
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: one true invisibility cloak?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's just like in the Muggle world,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: like a story comes up to explain something that's not understood,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: so which is in Wizards didn't understand how this cloak existed,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: so therefore it came up with a legend to kind
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: of go around it. What was interesting is that it
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: was supposed to remain a secret that each generation possessed this,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: So who found out about it and who wrote the
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: legend and who I guess who found out about the
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: other items invented by the family.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know that's a good question.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: But obviously though, like two, it's kind of interesting because
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: I guess inventing things runs in the family because you've
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: got the perils inventing things, then don't you have the
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: other Potter ancestor who like invented potions and snookysies, hair
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: tonic and all that stuff. So it's like a family
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: of inventors.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean, and that could also just
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: be at the end of the day, the motivation to
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: invent something like this, like there doesn't need to necessarily
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: be like a deeper meaning like they were trying to
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: hide from something. It could just be Yeah, like you said,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: they were a family of inventors. And I think the
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: thought of invisibility that's not like unique to the Wizarding World.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: I mean we see that across a lot of stories,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of tales, a lot of
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: other media. I mean we you know, like literally in
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: like Universal Monsters, you have the invisible Man. So like
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: it's not like it's a it's a I could see
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: it being a in a family of inventors and they're
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: trying to think what else can we invent. I can
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: absolutely see something like invisibility coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mm hmm.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, but also, if like there's any creatives to
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: the story of the eldest Peverell brother kind of like
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: getting all these enemies they're dueling as well, maybe there
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: was the very practical side of what our family's got
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: some enemies now, probably good to have a weight hide.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and ultimately like it did end up
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: being used for that purpose, mm hmm, especially with Harry.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: So I'm sure there was a deeper meaning to it,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: especially like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, we're gonna say
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: there was a deeper meaning to it. I think that
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: makes sense. Okay.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: So then we have the mirror of Ara said, which
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: shows a person's deepest desire, you know. The inscriptions and
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: mirror writing it says, I show not your face, but
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: your hearts. Just this one. The writing about this is
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: kind of short, so I'm just going to go ahead
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: and read it because it's kind of interesting. So again,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: this is from Harry Potter dot com. It says, the
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: mirror of Arasaid is a very old device. Nobody knows
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: who created it or how it came to be at
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Outwards School, a succession of teachers have brought back interesting
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: artifacts from their travels, so it might have arrived at
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: the castle in this casual manner, either because the teacher
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: knew how it worked and was intrigued by it, or
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: because they did not understand it and wished to ask
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: their colleagues' opinions. The mirror of Arasaid is one of
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: those magical artifacts that seems to have been created in
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: a spirit of fun. Whether innocent or I'm malevolent is
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: a matter of opinion, because while it is much more
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: revealing than a normal mirror, it is interesting rather than useful.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: Only after Professor Dumbledore makes key modifications to the mirror,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: which has been languishing in the Room of Requirement for
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: a century or so, before he brings it out and
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: puts it to work, does it become a superb hiding
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: place in the final test for the impure heart. The
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: mirror's inscription I'm not going to try and read it
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: must be read backwards to shows through purpose. And then
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: we've got an author's note here that says Elbos Dumbledore's
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: words of caution to Harry when discussing the Mirror of
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: Ara said, expressed my own views. The advice to hold
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: onto your dreams is all well and good, but there
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: comes a point when holding onto your dreams becomes unhelpful
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: and even unhealthy. Dumbledore knows that life can pass you
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: by while you are clinging onto a witch that can
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: never be or ought ever to be fulfilled. Harry's deepest
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: yearning is for something impossible, the return of his parents
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: desperately sad though it is that he has spent the
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: pride its family. Dumbledore knows that to sit easing on
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: a vision of what he can never have will only
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: damage Harry. The Mirror is bewitching and tantalizing, but it
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: does not necessarily bring happiness.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: I love this part and Dumbledore's you know when he
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: says it does not do well to dwell on dreams
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: if one forgets to live, it really resonates. And it's
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: also such like also an emotionally like very dark. It's
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: part of the story for this really really young Harry,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: who you know is starting to get a little bit
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: obsessed with the mirror, and it's very dark honestly, like
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: when you when you read about it, when you see it,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: like it's it's pretty like what it can do, even
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: to a child who's desperately wanting to clinge onto something.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: Uh just you know, tells you that the amount of
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: power this mirror has and how many people have gone
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: completely mental by just you know, becoming obsessed with it
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: and just trying to see that thing that they desire
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: so much, but you know, it's not real at the
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: end of the day.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and Obviously, Harry's greatest want is something he
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: can't have, can't reverse step. But even if you were
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: someone whose dream was something that could maybe slightly be possible,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: sitting in front of the mirror, you're not going to
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: get it because you're not out there actively pursuing it
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: at that point. You're just sitting in around staring at
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: the mirror. So then it just becomes unattainable in that
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: way too. It's I don't know, it's interesting that there
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: really is no use for this other than you know,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: because Dumbledore has to enchant it farther to actually get
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: a use at of it. So you've got to wonder, like,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: what was the point of whoever made this?
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: It seems to be sort of like a nod to addiction,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: to right, to some sort of drug, to some sort
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: of like something that really gets you in this state
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: of I don't know, happiness and just ecstasy or you know,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: like something that really pulls you into it.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: And I think it's meanwhile, life is passing.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, life is passing by. But you know, whoever invented
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: this did it for the sole purpose of maybe just
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: escaping from the reality they were in and just trying
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: to look for something that they could hold on to
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: dearly and just you know, want that wish to to
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: be as real as possible. How can I do that? Well,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: the mirror is there, you know, there at least their
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: immediate response to that. So it has it even has
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: a very sad, you know background if you think about it,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: like the whole idea of coming up, why would you
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: come up with this mirror which cannot even it cannot
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: even grant you wishes. It just shows you something that
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: is you know, like a utopian almost. It's very it's
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot that you can just dive
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: into this. But the whole like root for this seems
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: to be coming from a place of sorrow or a
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: place of sadness. And uh and yeah, interesting.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: I think that the whole reason for creating this is
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: very much in the same family of thoughts as the
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: whole reason for creating the Philosopher's Stone. And I think
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: the irony is right is that there these objects are
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: very much entwined in the in the telling of our
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: story and kind of like just what you were saying
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: tom as you were talking, I was thinking about that,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: like I feel like the driver behind is the same, right,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: like you're you're somebody whoever created this, like exactly what
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: you said, Tom, you know, and liking it to you know,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: the creation of Philosopher's Stone also trying to escape something, right,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: You're trying to escape death. You're trying to escape that
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: thing that unfortunately is coming for all of us eventually.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, life is still passing by
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: as you are continuing to live and be immortal, and
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: you're not able to escape. Just like with the mirror,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: You're not able to life is passing you by, Like yes,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: you're still living, but your family and all your relatives
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: are passing away, and things that you knew or loved
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: or what ever are also going away. And it's I
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: don't know, I think they're more intertwined with each other
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: than I have ever thought before this very moment, in
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: which makes a complete sense why ultimately the Mirror of
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: Aeroside is used for the plot of the Philosopher's Stone
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: and is obviously yeah, plays a big role in the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: end of the story.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: There. Hmm, look at all these deep jobs.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: You know, I have never for this moment, I have
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: never once ever thought that deeply about the mirror peroside
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: or thinking about, yeah, why somebody would feel so like
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: compelled to create it, and how similar yeah it is
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: to the creation of the Philosopher's Stone, and oh yeah, guys,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: we should write a book. Got some good thoughts.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's good because you see, yeah, you kind
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: of revisit this world from a different lens when you
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: grow up, so you obviously start having a lot more
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: questions why things come to be, and you know, you
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: just you're not just accepting things, oh because this happened,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: because because it is there, you know, and it's just no, it's.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: A wizarding world, of course.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. And now you start, you know, you kind
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: of like start thinking why, why does this exist in
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: this world? What was the purpose? What was the intent
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: behind it?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: Did this person succeed that they not? You know, so
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: it's very interesting to see this as an adult, Like
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: we started reading these books when we were children, and
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: now you know, we just want to dive deeper into
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: these things and just you know, kind of like dissect
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: it a little bit more. And uh, it's so it's
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: so interesting to come up with these things on the spot,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: really because we were just like speaking and talking to
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: each other and just being like, oh, in this means sense?
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: How about this and that? And so it's really really
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: interesting to see how we come up with all these theories.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and I think, like, you know, yeah, I
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: mean thinking about it as an adult, like you just said,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: like I would one hundred percent be tempted by the
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: mirror and you would catch me completely spiraling into an
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: obsessive void of myself sitting in front of him.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: I like I would read that and be like, oh, whatever, I.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: Don't even know. As a kid, I don't even know
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: what I I don't know. I don't even know if
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: i'd know what I'd see. I think, like even learning
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: about like the difference in like what Harry and Ron
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: see in the mirror is like very telling because obviously,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: like Harry is a kid, but he's had to go
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: through so much in his like eleven years of life
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: that most will not have to go through, and so
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: it makes sense that like what he sees is like
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: has such a deeper meaning and is more profound, right,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: whereas like with Ron, you just see a very like
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: you know, superficial kind of like you know, like.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: Like you know, be the quidditch champion, like, of course
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: that's something a kid would see, you know.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: Which also makes sense why he didn't become obsessed with it,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: you know, why it didn't really pull him in and
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: pull him in as much as it did Harry exactly exactly.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: And Harry just was this void that he had to
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: fill and it was impossible. The only connection he could
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: feel like he could have with his parents was through
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: that mirror. So it's very when I say dark, it's like,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: imagine what would have happened and Harry kept going into
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: that mirror. He probably could have, you know, ended up
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: in that loophole and just you know, never being able
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: to to escape from that. So it's very Yeah, it's
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: very telling of the backgrounds of these characters and where
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: they were at their at their lives, even though they
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: were the same age.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, So then we have another invention coming through.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: And remember earlier when I said the Potter family was
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: like a line of inventors. Well, here's James's turn. The
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Marauders Map, which the youth obviously we know. It's a
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: map of Hogwarts that shows each person within its walls
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: moving in real time, and it was created by James, Sirius, Remus,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: and Peter while they were all at Hogwarts. And I
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: pulled this quote from one of those potter More writings
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: and it says, quote, the magic used in the map's
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: creation is advanced and impressive. It includes the homunculus charm,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: enabling the possessor of the map to track the movements
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: of every person in the castle. And it was also
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: enchanted to forever repel as insultingly as possible the curiosity
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: of their nemesis. Sepharis Snape.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: I was thinking, like the like of the advance and
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: impressive and like what you mentioned before about just like
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: the things that this family is inventing, Like not only
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: are they like a family of inventors, but they're not
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: just inventing like these I don't know, like this, these
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: like basic things, Like they're inventing these seriously to use
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: these exact words, yeah, advanced and impressive things.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's so funny because like they came up
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: with this like as just mischief makers, right, and it
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: seems like such a trivial thing, but when you think
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: of the implications of being able to keep track of
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: where everyone is, and like later we see this too
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: because we see Peter Pettigrew up here in the map
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: and he's not supposed to. We see Bartie Crouch appear
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: in the map when he's not supposed to, when it's
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: supposed to be moody. So it's like such a like
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: they created it for kind of just silly reasons, but
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: it's something that used the right way, can be like
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: a really important tool.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: And knowing nobody knows of the existence of that arether
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: then a very few select group of people that not
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: even like nobody could have you know, kind of like
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: try to jinx it anywhere or kind of like find
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: a way around it because nobody knew of its existence.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: So it's Yeah, it definitely uncovers a lot of mysteries
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: and things that are like much more profound.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Imagine the potential for like Hogwarts, gossip Mill, like you
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: see Filch and Madam pinn sneaking off.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think, like you know, and I
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: think to them, I could see them seeing stuff like
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: that right and finding it completely funny. And I don't
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: think their intention was to ever make this thing that
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: was going to be like have these more serious implications,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: No pun intended to that either implications to it that
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: it eventually did you know? They were just yeah, these
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: four like mischief makers, And I want to know how
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: Fred and George like figured out this map. I feel
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: like that's a bit of a plot hole. That just
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: was like, well, of course they knew how to figure
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: it out because they're also mischief makers, but like, were
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: they just like putting all these different words together like
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: manage mischief, summoned mischief and then they just happened to
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: say mischief managed.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Or well, like you know, gets so specific and popitated,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Like did they just say this in conversation one day
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: and then looked down or like hey.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's Yeah, I think that's a little
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: bit of a plot hole. But of course makes sense
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: that they're the ones that kind of end up getting
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: your hands on it, you know, passed on from you know,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: one mischief maker to another.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: Who would have who would have deciphered the code you know,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: if it was it was if it wasn't exactly.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: Which also, like it's so interesting that they got this
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: because thinking about what their future helped. They also had
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: a knack for enchanting things and figuring out how to
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: make stuff work, and like, yeah, so so interesting.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: I wonder where the map is now, Harry just having
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: a random drawer.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: Keeps an eye on his kids excursions to the castle.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: Right, Like that would be a way for you for
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: him to kind of see what, you know, what they're
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: getting out of.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: You might want to go patrol the corridors. There's something
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: going on on the floor.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: Oh well, And I could actually see this end up
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: being ultimately a good possession for like your headmaster, headmistress
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: of the school to have. I can see it just
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: joining the ranks of the pencil even yeah, you know
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: everything else.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe he gives it to Neville so Neville can keep
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: track of the students.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe huh.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: All right? So then lastly, we have another Weasley item here,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: and that is the clock, the Weasley clock in the borough,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: because I just I love this clock so much. So
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: we know the clock tracks the members of the Weasley
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: family into their whereabouts with things on its clockface like home, work, school, traveling, lost, hospital, prison,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: and mortal peril. So I'm wondering, is the magic here,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: like similar to how the magic of the trace works,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: Like is there like a trace, a very specific trace
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: on all of the Weasley family members, Like how did
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: this happen.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: It almost seems like it's this mixture of magic from
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: like the trace and whatever magic was used to make
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: the Marauders map, because that's also kind of tracking whereabouts
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: of people. But of course, like with the map.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: You could have a monculus charm.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: Right, you couldn't put which is so cool because a
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: hum as obviously is this thing that is like the body,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: like where parts of your body are mapped on your
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: brain and everything. But obviously for that you couldn't. I
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: could see, like I just like pictured like when like
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: Arthur and Molly every time they birth a new baby,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: they put this charm on them that is like there
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: at that moment, you are now being traced by us
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: for this clock. But obviously for.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: The Marats the parental tracking.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like an air tack. It's like a wizarding
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: air tak.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's different than the Marauder's map right in
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: that way because obviously you can't go and put a
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: trace on everybody for that, but it's kind of got
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: similar similarities there.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: What if Arthur had certain because he worked at the Ministry,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: he got access to certain I wouldn't say of types
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: of magic, but maybe a way around it, and he
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: got like, you know, I'm not saying every Ministry of
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: Magic employee had one, but I wonder if that plays
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: role into this.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: I just like pictured like because obviously you know he's
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: super into like muggle things, so I pictured him yeah
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: when you said that. And obviously this was like the nineties, right,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: so there weren't actually AirTags and things around, but I
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: literally pictured like it literally being an air tag that
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: they insert into their children because he was so obsessed
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: with muggle things and had access to it, right, being
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: a ministry employee, just like.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: The arm trackers in the US.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: Maybe an earlier an early form of a tracking device. Yeah.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: Maybe there isn't even any magic or spells.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: It's literally they were walking around with ans on their heads.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: They attached stuff to their path.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: It's funny. But if it is, like, like, let's just
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: say though, that it actually is some spell, right that
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: they put on all their kids, like at birth or whatever.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: He like kind of going back to like, I guess
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: the theme of this episode, right, is like inventions, Like
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: if that is what it is, like, is this a
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: spell that was like invented by Mollie right because she
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: had such a fear of like her biggest fear right
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: as like what was happening to her kids? And she
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: came up with the spell. Because then it's like if
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: this was a common spell. Well, of course, we don't
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: really have view into other people's houses to see if
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: they have a similar clock, but this seems to be
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: We're presented that this is very much a Weasley thing.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: Yea.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: So it makes me believe that it's something that they
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: specifically created and it's it's unique to their family.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: It's so funny to me that she included prison there,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, her children and Bred and George.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: She knew she I could see them, but she's like, oh,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: I've got these twins, They're going to be mischief makers.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think like most of these probably apply
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: to them. Like I feel like the hospital No, I mean,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: that could definitely end up being like Charlie or something
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: as well, you know, or maybe either.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: Of the twins playing quidditch and being in the well.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: That's why I'm saying, I feel like all of these,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: like the ones at the end when we get to
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: the more like you know, lost Hospital, prison, Mortal Peril,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: those ones all seem to be very inspired by Fred
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: and George in particular. Yeah, so I wonder like, has
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: she always had this clock, like did she make did
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: they make this clock starting with like the first child?
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: Or did it come later yeah? Or did it come
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: later once?
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's so funny because the movie version has dentists
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: on it, whereas like wizards are completely unfamiliar with dentists.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's like what if they
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: did because Arthur was so familiar with everything, you know,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: muggle related, I.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: Could see Arthur like insisting on visiting the d once
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: a year.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: I just want my clockhand to say, dentist, we.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: Need something muggle there.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: Wow, you're gonna scrape the flag from my teeth with
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: that little fascinating.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: Whereas like in their world they probably just have a
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: little swish of the wand and like a little charm,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: you know. M Yeah, No, super interesting. I think that
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: This one's a very interesting one that again I think
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: you can really how many times can I say think
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: in the sentence, but think deeper about.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: These are inventions and you have to think. So it's
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: very appropriate.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and then I want to know as well,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: like what happened to like friend's hand on the clock,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: like after he died, Like does it.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: Just forever stay at mortal peril?
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: But at that point, he's not even in he's not
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: currently in mortal peril after death.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: You know, to switch back to home.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: Whoa, that's what I can't even I can't.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: Even think of that, or even worse, she has to
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: manually just.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no no, no, Oh my god,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: we don't want to go there, and we don't want
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: to go there, and it just stays at home, but
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: even it's staying Oh my god, oh my god, that's worst.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: What if he came back a ghost?
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: Oh mm hmm, it just haunts Hogwarts and so then
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: he's stat at school because he's like haunting Hogwarts him
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: and Peeves are up to you know, that.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: Would have been a great, a great ending. I mean,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: if they have to kill him off, like what better
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: thing that him coming back as a ghost and just.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so fitting. Yeah yeah, gosh, that would have
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: I think maybe helped like and obviously we didn't really
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: get to that, would I feel like, be something that
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: we'd see and like more like a you know, an
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: epilogue kind of thing, or like what's happening at Hogwarts now,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: But that if if that is what happened, that would
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: help like ease the blow a little bit of his
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: dad rather than yeah, just thinking of him as being like.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: M oh my god.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine if like George's hand is just always
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: in like lost because he's just so lost without Fred.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: This is gonna kill us.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: We are in We are in mortal peril right now.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: Oh what a tragic note to wrap up. I know.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: All of these objects, do you have like a little
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: tragic or very like, you know, sorrowy? Yeah?
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: H wow man, Okay, well I didn't think we were
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: going to go there.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, I brought that one up. Leave it to
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: the Lytherin always turning us to the darkness.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Nicole on that note, Yeah, it's about
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: to leave.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: Grab on to the pork key.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: For this week. For this rotating For the rotating segment
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: of this episode, we wanted to bring back the port key,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: which we hadn't done in a while. So, speaking of
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: magical inventions, wanted to talk about a magical place that
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: is in the Muggle world and I think it's a
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: place that's more pivotal than what people give it credit for,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: which is an iconic Harry Potter filming location, which is
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: Durham Cathedral. This is located in the pister Risque in
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: the picturesque city of Durham. And this massive architectural wonder
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: was built between ten ninety three and eleven thirty three,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: so a long time ago, and it was designated a
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: Unique World Heritage Site among Durham Castle, and it is
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: renowned for its immense stone faulted ceilings, the first of
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: its kind, so this was the earliest example of a
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: large scale stone ribbed vault in the world and it's
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: very beautiful. And however, to cut to the chase, most
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: Harry Potter fans will recognize it as a filming location.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: For the first two films, the closers of Durham Cathedral
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: appear in more than seven scenes across Searcher's Stone and
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: Chamber of Secrets, often showing the students moving between classes.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: And this is quite a lot considering the filmmakers were
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: working on location, so they really wanted to showcase this
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: this part and even Professor mcgonagall's trans Transfiguration classroom was
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: filmed here in the chapter House. It's what they called
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: the chapter House. These days, it's only missing the cages
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: and desks, but it still looks just as whimsical as
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: it did on screen. And the Chapter House is actually
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: open from ten am to four pm from Monday to Saturday,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: though as they say under site, some days are excluded
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: due to services and events, and this is worth noting.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: I pointed this out because if you arrivee by at
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: the cathedral after four pm, you won't be able to
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: access it. And also even coming before that time and
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: arriving before that time doesn't guarantee that you'll have access
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: to that, to that to the chapter House because of
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: probably an event that was already planned in advance, So
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: just be sure to take that into consideration if you're visiting.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: And then we have the Cloister Garth, which is and
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: I think this was funny because this was taken from
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: the website and they said the name of the square
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: of grass in the middle of the cloister is also
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: a key filming site. This is where Harry is seen
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: with Headwig and the snow and sorcers Stone and where
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: Ron slugspelled backfires, and Chamber of Secrets, among other scenes,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: and it's generally open to the public, though when I
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: visited a couple of years ago, access was restricted. So again,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: this might be open to the public, but there might
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: be instances where it's not, and you just have to
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: appreciate it from within the cloister. And when I say
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: that this side doesn't get enough credit, I don't mean
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: to dismiss the thousand fans who come here every year,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: nor to deny that it's already a must visit for
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: Harry Potter fans. But I don't think enough people realize
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: just how much of the Howartz model was directly inspired
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: by Durham Cathedral. The entire right wing of the castle
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: is essentially right there in full scale, and I think
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: when you see it in person, it makes it clear
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: that the filmmakers didn't just take inspiration from it. They
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: kind of like practically lifted the cathedral into the model,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: and they making, you know, they made a few adjustments
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: some spirals, some towers, and they remodel some other bits.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: But even the viadic entrance is right there, only that
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: it doesn't have the door to enter the castle. So
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: the Court is essentially there, and I think it's astonishing
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: to witness as it's one of the few places that
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: will truly make you feel closest to a real life
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: Hogwarts because if you go to Lister Cathedral or you
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: go to christ Church, which have like iconic locations too,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: the outside of it it's completely you know, it's not
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: at all related, but this is from the outside. The
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: exterior and the interior are both served as Harry Potter locations,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: and it really really does feel like you are half
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: of Hogwarts is there right in front of you. So,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: you know, I pulled up some pictures for you guys
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: to see and have a better understanding of what I'm saying.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: But when I went there in person, I was like,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: oh my god, Like I knew this was used, but
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: I just never really paid much attention to how how
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: much was really inspired and how much they took from this.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: It's even called in the blueprints, it's even called Durham,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: so that's how much they really how much they took
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: from these from this location. So I also wanted to,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: you know, mention a few behind the scenes fun facts
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: that are always fun, and one of them is that
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: filt is often seen with a heavy set of old
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: fashioned keys, and while filming at Durham Cathedral, an actual
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: set of the cathedral's keys were used as pops. So
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: that's something nice that I don't know. At the end
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: of the Chamber of Secrets, when Harry Freese Dobby, the
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: scene was filmed on a set designed as an almost
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: exact replica of the Durham's cloister, which is also interesting
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: because I didn't know that. I thought they had actually
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: filmed on location and they have put like a little
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: background to where Lucy's exits, but no, it's literally like
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: they built a replica of that little part of the cloister.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: And then for Harry's iconic snow we walk with Handwick
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: and SORCER's Stone, the cloister and close to Garth were
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: covered in layers of fake snow, creating the magical winter
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: to Spring transfer transfigure transition scene. I was going to
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: say transfiguration the winter to Spring transition scene, and I
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: also wanted to briefly mention two little tidbits that I
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: think are very interesting that I actually pulled up from
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: the companion book Magical Places from Harry Potter, and this
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: is exclusively from filming at Durham for the first two films.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: So one of them is that Stephanie McMillan, who was
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: the set designer for the films. Unfortunately she passed away,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: but she recalls that I had chosen a desk that
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: was much too small for the room. So I asked
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: the representative helping us at Durham if by any chance
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: they had a bigger desk that we could use, and
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: she offered this wonderful old table which had a very
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: interesting design and was absolutely perfectly aged with a letter
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: top worn down to the wood. So after the location through,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: McMillan realized that they would need to cover some additional
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: shots of the scene in the studio and asked if
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: the table could be brought back with them, and to
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: her delight, the representatives said that the table wasn't actually
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: being used anymore, so she could purchase it if she
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: wanted to. So the interesting thing is that she says,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: we used the table's design as the basis for various
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: pieces of furniture for other rooms and different sizes throughout
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: the films, and yeah, so it notes a worthy transfiguration. Indeed,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: And the last bit that I wanted to read is
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: that when they filmed in Chamber of Secrets, she recalls
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: that we needed to fill it up more. So we
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: added new light fittings and some very big, tall cages
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: that lined the walls. So the cages contained a variety
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  Speaker 2: of animals including birds, snakes, lizards, and even raccoons. So
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  Speaker 2: that's just a little bit that I could pull up
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  Speaker 2: from the arc. And it's always nice to read these
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  Speaker 2: little tidbits and just to see how much they all
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  Speaker 2: the repercussions they can have, and how much, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just a simple desk that inspired a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: designs that we see later on the films. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and okay, So beyond the Harry Potter connection, it's also
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  Speaker 2: a very inspiring place to visit for its stunning Romanesque architecture,
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  Speaker 2: historic treasures, stained glass and breath taking pieces. And as
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  Speaker 2: a fun extra detail, it even features a replica of
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  Speaker 2: the cathedral built built entirely out of lego. So this
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  Speaker 2: was in storage for a few years and now it
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  Speaker 2: has been added as a permanent display. So that was
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  Speaker 2: not there when I visited. So next time I go
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  Speaker 2: and pay a visit, I'm definitely going to check that
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  Speaker 2: out and yeah, the cathedral is open from eight am
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: to six pm from Monday to Saturday. However, normal visitor hours,
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  Speaker 2: when all areas of the castle site are accessible, are
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  Speaker 2: from nine to four thirty pm or four if you
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  Speaker 2: want to visit mcgonagall's classroom, and the entrance is free,
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  Speaker 2: although donations are always appreciated. And so yeah, if you're
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  Speaker 2: either you know, nearby, and you don't mind spending half
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  Speaker 2: of your day on a round trip to the cathedral.
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  Speaker 2: So let's say you're in Edinburgh and you just want
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  Speaker 2: to take a detour and spend half of your day
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  Speaker 2: day there. Like it was my case, this is a
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  Speaker 2: must place visit for any fan and I think it's
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  Speaker 2: architecturally astonishing too, so much worth the visit.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely go. Don't be like me who lived in Edinburgh
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  Speaker 3: for a whole year and never managed to make it
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  Speaker 3: over here when it was not that far from me.
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  Speaker 3: This is what I would see in the mirror of
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  Speaker 3: arisad me still living in Edinburgh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, cool, so nice, all right. So in the last episode,
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  Speaker 1: we asked the question what do you think of the
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  Speaker 1: first looks from the filming of the Harry Potter TV series?
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  Speaker 1: If we've got a lot of great responses this week,
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  Speaker 1: so from Jerry. Jerry says, I do like what I
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  Speaker 1: have seen of the images from the TV show, although
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: I couldn't find that video of the haggard figure on
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  Speaker 1: the stairs. But my concern slash interest is, as I
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  Speaker 1: describe it in the email below, keeping the whimsy, joy
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  Speaker 1: fun aspects of the books is so important to me
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  Speaker 1: and something that the TV series folks can struggle with also,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: as was pointed out in the episode, looks alone aren't definitive.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: It depends on the acting and directing and writing and
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: so much more to make it real. Another non hpxmple.
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  Speaker 1: Over the past two years or so, I have been
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: catching up on the Doctor Who series, having been familiar
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: with the first original series way back when the best
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  Speaker 1: of the various doctors in showrunners and scriptwriters have kept
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: the lighthearted, self mocking and whimsical nature that makes Doctor
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: Who himself no matter what face heeds she wears. But
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: occasionally it would go off the track for a story
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: arc or two and take itself too seriously and to
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: remove the fun, and we would find ourselves skipping ahead
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: to find episodes that regained the magic.
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  Speaker 3: Something I think that's really interesting about what Jerry mentioned
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: here kind of circles back to what we were talking
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  Speaker 3: about earlier, like about like, you know, this comment of
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: wanting the series to be more realistic and grounded. Not
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 3: to bring that up again, but I thought of that initially.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: When you know, Jerry says here, keeping the whimsy joy
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  Speaker 3: fun aspects of the books is so important to her,
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 3: and it something that TV series folks can struggle with.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: And yeah, there might be a direct connection there too.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe that is what we might miss out on a
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: little bit. Yeah, I don't know. I just as you
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: were reading that it I.
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  Speaker 2: Think, yeah, what we were talking to previously, I just
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: went back immediately to that part of our discussion well
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: while reading that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then over on Instagram at phoenix dot five
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: six eight zero says, I think it looks great. I
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: was optimistic anyway. I saw literally no point in being pessimistic.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: But it does look really good. I'm excited about the
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: possibility of seeing more younger Harry's stuff too. Yeah. I
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: think it's interesting, like not only all of these scenes
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: were getting in the Muggle world, but before we started recording,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: we were kind of like diving into some stuff. Posted
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: on Instagram from different accounts, and like there's been rumors
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: that like different elementary schools are going to be filming locations,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: so we might even be getting quite a bit more
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: of young Harry in the Muggle world than we originally thought. Like,
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that we could be seeing these
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: scenes at his Muggle elementary school as well. So, yeah,
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: very cool.
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  Speaker 2: Or toddler Harry just you know, unconsciously casting magic or
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: you know, just like making things happen around him that
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: he's not very aware of. I think it's something that
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: TV can really open up to and has the space
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: to devote that time to these little like, you know,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: details that probably the film format doesn't allow, even if.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a flashback, right, Like I could see like,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: you know, Hagrid saying to Harry like, you know, have
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: you ever like made anything happen? And then we see
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: these flashbacks of all these little things, yeah that we
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: hear about that Harry was doing all these years and
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: didn't realize Like, yeah, that seems very TV TV show.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: Ask yeah, love a good montage, yes, flashback montage?
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  Speaker 1: All right, And then we have an email from Vicky
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: who says, hi, Amy, Nicole and Tom New Listener here.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: I wanted to jump into the discussion for this week.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: I have to say I am so excited all caps
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: about the first looks. I have been really excited for
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: the series since it's announced beent, mainly because so much
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: of the books were left out of the movies, and
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to those being shown. Death Day, Party,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: Gaunt Memories, Spew, Snake's Potion, Riddle, Ludo Bagman, I could
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: go on. The first looks really stealed the deal for me.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: Sweet Dominic looks perfect as Harry, and as you've all discussed,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: I love the new scar. I'm eager and excited to
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: see the other house robes too. The dars look impeccable
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: and if that is peers my goodness that attitude serving
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: all of the late eighties slushy windbreaker looks. I also
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: think Hi Hagrid looks amazing, more of a lived in
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: beard look in my opinion, Although I know that some
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: people don't like it. I trust in TV magic, so
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: I know the looks will be really polished by the
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: time we see the final cut. Hopefully we will get
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: more photos leaked or official. Would love to see the
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: trio together in their robes. How precious. Thanks for keeping
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: the Potter magic alive. Ps. This one's for Nicole. I've
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: been catching up on old episodes and Nicole, you're so
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: valid about death Theater thirst Trap talk. Can't wait for
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: spooky season to fill my timeline again. Waky face.
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  Speaker 3: Well, hi Vicky, We're so glad to have you here.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: And yeah, we are right on the cusp of death
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: Theater thirst Trap talk see any day now. I've already
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: started to see some tiktoks of like, guys, this is
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: coming soon, like you know, alluding back to last year.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 3: So thank you so much for indulging Vicky in my
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 3: antics about death Theater thirst traps.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: We're gonna live every second of that.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, oh yes, So for this episode, we want to
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• 1:47:30
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• 1:47:34
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also just a really quick disclaimer, due to
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: the timing of Back to Hogwarts, we're going to take
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: a quick break from our regular release schedule so that
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: we can talk about any announcements that happened that day.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: So instead of releasing our next episode on Thursday, September fourth,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: look out for a new episode of Revellio on Monday,
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  Speaker 1: September eighth. After that, we'll be right back on our
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: regular schedule every other Thursday, but just for this time.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: You know, timing is never our friend here at Revellio,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: so we want to make sure we're able to discuss
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: anything that does happen to come out on September first.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that will be the next episode September eighth.
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  Speaker 3: And at that point we will have been a year
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: of rebellioh you need to make it special. Yeah, wild
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: time flies when you're having fun.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: When you're not sitting in front of the mirror, at.
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  Speaker 2: Arisaid, great, great outro sentence.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, al right, well until September eight. I'm Amy,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nicole, and I'm Tom.