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NFL Week 3 Leverage Lane | September 19, 2025 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear to the left. What's up everyone,
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo and back with
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  Speaker 1: a new show here on the ship at Nation YouTube Station.
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  Speaker 1: We're calling this one Leverage Lane. We all know about
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  Speaker 1: Narrative Street, but we are going to be taking a
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: little stroll down Leverage Lane. And I'm excited for this one.
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  Speaker 1: It's a new show. We didn't want to just rush
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  Speaker 1: it for week one. We had some stuff week two,
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  Speaker 1: but we're debuting it this week Friday night, seven pm Eastern.
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  Speaker 1: It will normally be Saturday's at ten am Eastern, but
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  Speaker 1: we're starting off on a Friday night, and it's with
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  Speaker 1: my man, Alex Blickel. Alex, what's going on, man? How
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  Speaker 1: you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing very well. I can't wait for this show.
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  Speaker 1: And it's funny.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're gonna like immediately see why we chose
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: Saturday morning to do the show in Center Briday Knights
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  Speaker 2: because there was a lot of information that came out today,
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of movement in ownership and it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: really nice to actually, as soon as we get up
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  Speaker 2: this like, I'm gonna go study ownership for the next
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  Speaker 2: three hours. And I'll have a much better idea of
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  Speaker 2: where I think the field is going, where I want
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  Speaker 2: to go tomorrow morning. But there's still an awful lot
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  Speaker 2: that we can talk through right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun, Yeah, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of good support in the chat, a lot of hype
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  Speaker 1: behind the show. I think one of the things that
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: struck a chord with people was there's not much content
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  Speaker 1: out there surrounding single entry three max twenty max. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna explain how you can still extrapolate that out
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  Speaker 1: and use it as part of your portfolio, and how
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  Speaker 1: you might go about that, But I know a lot
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  Speaker 1: more people want to know how can you rein it
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  Speaker 1: in and what are some of those things you look at.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about three things. The show is gonna
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  Speaker 1: be segmented. We're gonna break it all down for you
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  Speaker 1: guys each week, Like you said, usually on a saty,
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  Speaker 1: we'll have even more information how the field's reacting. Got
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  Speaker 1: the Mariota stuff. Today, you go from Mason being the
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  Speaker 1: most popular running back and then expensive running backs to
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  Speaker 1: now Kenneth Walker probably the most most owned, sorry running
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  Speaker 1: back on the slate. So there's that but here's the
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  Speaker 1: three segments. Ownership is the first one, in a way
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  Speaker 1: you've never heard it broken down. Number two, how to
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  Speaker 1: leverage the common build, including player combinations and game stacks
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  Speaker 1: to target or maybe fade. And then three is the
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  Speaker 1: light at the end of the lane, putting it all together.
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  Speaker 1: But the thing is, what's really important about that is
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  Speaker 1: you can't put it all together until you get through
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  Speaker 1: the first two stops. So this will be at the
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  Speaker 1: end where Alex and I both choose our lane based
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  Speaker 1: on everything that we're going with, and we really hope
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  Speaker 1: after this you guys can help choose your lane because
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  Speaker 1: when you're playing single Entry, you're playing less entries, Alex,
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  Speaker 1: it really does come down to you got to pick
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  Speaker 1: something and roll with it, and that's kind of what
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  Speaker 1: this sets up for. So that's the three segments. Anything
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  Speaker 1: else you want to add when it comes to that,
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  Speaker 1: we do want to keep this interactive. You guys have questions,
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  Speaker 1: you can throw them in the chat, but we want
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  Speaker 1: to try and keep it all wrapped up into one bundle.
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  Speaker 1: Anything else you want to add.
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  Speaker 2: I like where you finished there where you talked about
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  Speaker 2: how like in single Entry you got to take a
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  Speaker 2: stand of some kind. And I think one of the
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  Speaker 2: things that hopefully we can really do and help people
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  Speaker 2: accomplish is being more comfortable making like really risky decisions
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  Speaker 2: in single entries. But that also extends to any contest
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  Speaker 2: stren Even if you're building twenty lineups, maybe that set
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  Speaker 2: of twenty like you should take some stands and then
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  Speaker 2: diversify elsewhere. But DFSES so much about making these like
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  Speaker 2: really smart, calculated risks, and a lot of the time
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  Speaker 2: I think people even like if they're building twenty lines,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, well, I really feel good about these ten,
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  Speaker 2: but now I'm going to hedge might bet against that.
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  Speaker 2: We don't need the hedge, right, Like, we want to
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  Speaker 2: take really strong confidence stands knowing that we might lose
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  Speaker 2: our money, knowing that it might not work out. But
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  Speaker 2: as long as we're making really good decisions and putting
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  Speaker 2: ourselves in position win, that's the name of the game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. What's so funny is we did this. We did
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  Speaker 1: the Takedown breakdown week one. You joined me. You literally
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  Speaker 1: had just come seventh in the Milli Maker. You won
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  Speaker 1: like fifty grand. It was an awesome start to the
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  Speaker 1: season for you and a Megamilli and that was different, right,
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  Speaker 1: That was I was, you know, talk about this in
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  Speaker 1: the Mastermind project. You and I have talked about this.
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  Speaker 1: Many of the people I'm seeing in the chat have
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  Speaker 1: definitely heard me rant on this. But they're one lineup
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  Speaker 1: in a field of a bunch of whales. With sixty
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  Speaker 1: plus lineups is not the same as single entry necessarily,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, for example, I think this is a
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  Speaker 1: great week to talk about it. We'll get there in
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  Speaker 1: a bit. But like with Chicago Dallas, it's the standout game,
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  Speaker 1: the big total, it's in the afternoon, it's one of
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  Speaker 1: the last games of the slate. There's two at that
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  Speaker 1: time slot. So the thing is, like, I think a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people win a five fifty five ticket this week.
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  Speaker 1: They won it in whatever way they won it, which
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  Speaker 1: was something aggressive probably to be able to get it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say, you know, you usually take something like that,
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  Speaker 1: and then what ends up happening is they get to
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  Speaker 1: this week and they go, Okay, I've only got this
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  Speaker 1: one lineup. I think I'm just gonna say, screw it,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna overstack that game. Everybody's doing that, and you're, oh,
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  Speaker 1: but they're not all overstacking it. Yeah, But they have
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  Speaker 1: sixty lineups, so there's at least twenty of them that
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: are surrounding that game. Some are overstat You just are
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  Speaker 1: putting yourself into a corner that you can't really you're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna be able to budge your way out of right,
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  Speaker 1: You're not gonna you get super lucky to just have
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  Speaker 1: the absolute not to two percent on guys that you
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  Speaker 1: need that make yours much much better than there is.
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  Speaker 1: It's just so unlikely. So what is your first take
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  Speaker 1: here that we're hopping into this and you we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get in the first segment on ownership in a minute,
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  Speaker 1: but just on single entry three max, five max something
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  Speaker 1: with smaller entry you know in that range. What's your
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  Speaker 1: overall take on that? How do you see it for
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  Speaker 1: somebody out there looking for advice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the very first thing I'll say is you have
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  Speaker 2: to let go of the idea that single entry is
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  Speaker 2: some like hybrid between cash and tournament play. Single entry
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  Speaker 2: you still need to play extremely aggressively. It's not about
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  Speaker 2: the size of the contest. It's not about the number
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  Speaker 2: of entries that you have. It's about the payout structure.
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  Speaker 2: And in most of these single entries they're still really
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  Speaker 2: top heavy, so you still need to be building lineups
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  Speaker 2: for like the only thing in your mind is how
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  Speaker 2: do I mac my probability of getting a top one
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  Speaker 2: percent finish or a top point one percent finish and
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  Speaker 2: not oh I want to catch get rid of that idea,
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  Speaker 2: get ri to the idea that's some kind of hybrid.
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  Speaker 2: We want a lot of correlation. We want to shoot
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  Speaker 2: for the moon. And when I say shoot for the moon,
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  Speaker 2: I don't just mean like we want to have a
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  Speaker 2: ton of ceiling it. Sometimes shooting for the moon is
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  Speaker 2: less about who you're playing and more about who you're
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  Speaker 2: fading and what games you hope fail. So taking stands
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  Speaker 2: like we talked about, but most importantly, you have to
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  Speaker 2: play these single entries aggressively and M here.
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  Speaker 1: To help you do that. Yeah, when we were planning
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  Speaker 1: this show, I mean we spent a ton of time
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  Speaker 1: just going through a back and forth. We were hopping
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  Speaker 1: on calls back and forth and setting things up. And
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  Speaker 1: there was something you said, and it was you know,
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  Speaker 1: the goal isn't to build a good single entry lineup,
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  Speaker 1: which sounds crazy to some people, like get it, but
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  Speaker 1: we'll get there. But it's it's we can. We said, look,
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  Speaker 1: you can build a lot of good lineups with sound
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  Speaker 1: process and they may just not come through right. But
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  Speaker 1: the goal is to build the winning single entry lineup.
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  Speaker 1: And some of the best things that we'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: are ways to find yourself into that spot or that
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  Speaker 1: pocket where if what you're doing is right and your
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  Speaker 1: process is good and you put together a solid lineup,
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  Speaker 1: it can be the winner. Because that's the difference, right something, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I got a pretty good single entry lineup. It's you know,
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  Speaker 1: pulls a couple of levers, it's got some loan plays
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  Speaker 1: in it, but it's all over a similar spot that
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  Speaker 1: everyone else is on. You're you're probably not actually putting
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  Speaker 1: yourself into a winning single entry lineup very often. And
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: again you can now check those numbers with sims and
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: things like that. Going into that all changes too with variants,
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's important to remember. And then the
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  Speaker 1: other thing you said there that was just so clutch,
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  Speaker 1: because I know a lot of our twenty max players
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  Speaker 1: out there thinking about this stuff is like, oh, twenty max,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna just do this instead, or I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna tighten this up and do all this stuff. I
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  Speaker 1: think if you play lighter, play tighter. I do talk
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  Speaker 1: about that, But just because it's only twenty max entry
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's not another lottery with a top heavy prize.
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  Speaker 1: Like there's still there's there's a three dollars twenty max
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  Speaker 1: as what like sometimes eighty thousand or one hundred thousand
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  Speaker 1: something people in it. Like you need to play to
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  Speaker 1: win still, and that's what everyone thinks they're doing or
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: says they're doing. But hopefully some of the stuff we
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  Speaker 1: show them today and then the week's upcoming, we can
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  Speaker 1: put them in a better spot to be able to
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  Speaker 1: find their own lane and get there that way. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm really excited for this one man, Where do you
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  Speaker 1: want to start with segment one? Like we talked about ownership,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be more ownership driven when we talk
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  Speaker 1: about this, not just who is high owned, but why
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  Speaker 1: are they high owned? How is the ownership connected? So
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  Speaker 1: I'll let you kick things off with the ownership segment.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get right to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think the place to start you kind
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  Speaker 2: of alluded to it already is how this Seattle News
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  Speaker 2: the in fact that Charbonne is doubtful hasn't been ruled out,
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  Speaker 2: it's just doubtful. But how that is likely to affect
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  Speaker 2: the slave because what we were initially seeing was, okay,
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  Speaker 2: we've got this Jordan Mason chop and at the top
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  Speaker 2: it looked like both McCaffrey and Jon Robinson were going
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  Speaker 2: to be really popular. But obviously that's three running backs.
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  Speaker 2: So now if you throw a fourth in the fold,
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  Speaker 2: if Kenneth Walker certainly suddenly going to be really popular,
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  Speaker 2: maybe even more popular than Mason, well now something has
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  Speaker 2: to give. And so that could mean that either Jon
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  Speaker 2: or cmclis the cracks that goes from twenty five percent
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  Speaker 2: to fifteen percent single entries and becomes like the best
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  Speaker 2: player in the slate. It could also mean that those
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  Speaker 2: secondary studs like Jonathan Taylor, like Sakuon Barkley, guys who
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  Speaker 2: of course they have that home run ability, they can
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  Speaker 2: give you thirty five or forty on any slate, They're
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  Speaker 2: just not going to get you twenty to twenty five
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  Speaker 2: is often as CMC and Jon are. They could slip
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  Speaker 2: through the cracks. They could certainly go from fifteen percent
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  Speaker 2: to eight percent and be great plays, or ownership can
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  Speaker 2: really go to wide receivers. So I think the story
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  Speaker 2: that we're going to see is people end up paying
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more down for running backs because now
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  Speaker 2: they have Mason and Walker, which means, okay, that runership
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  Speaker 2: has the funnel to wide receivers or tight ends somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: We already have McBride being pretty chalky. I think where
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: it goes to Cede Lamb. I think Ceede lamp could
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  Speaker 2: go from fifteen percent to like twenty five to thirty
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  Speaker 2: percent because people already really like the Chicago passing stack
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: basically like all those pieces, but especially Roma duns. The
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  Speaker 2: Kala Williams looks like one of the most pop quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 2: and then they're also like suddenly a bunch of really
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  Speaker 2: super cheap quarterbacks that could be played like Marcus Mariot.
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  Speaker 2: So if that happens, there's even more reason for people
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  Speaker 2: to pay up for wide receivers. So I think that's
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  Speaker 2: what we're seeing right now is maybe there's not going
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  Speaker 2: to be as much salard spent on running backs because
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  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker shows up, But that means someone those expensive
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  Speaker 2: wide receivers have to go crazy, and I think see
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  Speaker 2: Lamb's going to be that guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I think that's going to be
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  Speaker 1: you know, the game that we spend some time on
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  Speaker 1: anyway here throughout because obviously it's popular for good reason.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you get one of those slates where you
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  Speaker 1: have that, it's the total that really stands out. You
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  Speaker 1: can easily get there based on pricing. Even if you're
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: going with one of the cheaper quarterback stacks, you can
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  Speaker 1: still end up on pieces within that game. To your
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  Speaker 1: point on the CD LAMB stuff. But I think that's
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  Speaker 1: another thing is just you know, you talk about who
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  Speaker 1: is connected, what build is connected, like Caleb Williams Romo doons,
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  Speaker 1: and then you run it back on the other side
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  Speaker 1: with let's say LAMB. That's already a starting point where
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to be at. And
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  Speaker 1: and for those out there thinking like, oh if I
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: just add DJ Moore, I'm good, it's like you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've talked about this a ton the past. You can
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  Speaker 1: use up all three of your wide receiver spots on
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  Speaker 1: three wide receivers from one game, but then guess where
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  Speaker 1: you end up on the running back positions. Like you said,
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  Speaker 1: not just who's the chalk, but how is it all connected?
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  Speaker 1: There isn't much leverage in that spot. And then also
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  Speaker 1: don't forget. I had this conversation with Mayo this morning,
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  Speaker 1: is like, we can look at these lineups all we
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  Speaker 1: want going in and building them in single entry, et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: But or three max. However, you've got it set up.
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  Speaker 1: But if some of your morning stuff fails, then it
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: could be a spot in the afternoon or whatever you
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: had is no good anymore anyway, because you now had
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: misses in the morning. You can't just end up in
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  Speaker 1: the same spot in the afternoon. So I think that's
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: another interesting thing just to think about. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: a couple things come to mind and we'll get there.
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  Speaker 1: But your ways to leverage the builds. But the Kenneth
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  Speaker 1: Walker jumping up is super important. Like that that just
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: changed from what we were thinking even just this morning. Right,
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: you get this news and you find that stuff out.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: What do you think of this? Richard's an awesome supporter
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: always in here. You and I have had some back
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: and forth on this offline. But single entry should be
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: a glimpse into what you want to do in tournaments.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: I think, first off, I would say single entry are
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  Speaker 1: still tournaments. Again the GPP focus where you're playing a
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  Speaker 1: single entry tournament. But I think what you mean is
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  Speaker 1: with MME stuff and your fifty max, how do you
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  Speaker 1: relate single entry versus portfolio besides the obvious of you
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  Speaker 1: get one hundred and fifty over here, you get one
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  Speaker 1: over here. What's your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's hard. I mean I haven't played a
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  Speaker 2: ton of MME. When I've played mm ME, I'm basically
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  Speaker 2: always also playing single entry, And personally I would say
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: that I think Temple you may have said that you
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: do it the same way, but I like to build
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: out my full MME stuff first, Yeah, because I feel
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: like doing that gives me a better sense of the
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: slate that I can then attack single entry with, Whereas
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: when I'm building single entry first, like that's that's the focus, right,
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  Speaker 2: So I think I become more informed for my single
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  Speaker 2: entry by doing mm first, whereas I don't think doing
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  Speaker 2: single entry really informs me form me in that direction.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you guys can do us a favor, give
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: this show, Like, make sure you're subscribe to the channel
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: if you haven't already, if you like content like this,
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: if you play single entry three max, twenty max, I
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: think this is really gonna come in handy. Put any
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: questions that you have comments in the chat, we'll try
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: and look at them throughout. But to your point, Alex,
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  Speaker 1: that's my thing on this and why it's always you know,
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  Speaker 1: I talk about this twenty four to seven. It's like
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: my major one that I always harp on is the optimizer.
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  Speaker 1: The myth behind the optimizer, like, oh, you only need
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  Speaker 1: it if you play one fifty. I really think it's
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: important to be what that looks like, even if you
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: are only going to play one. It gives you the
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: most ideas of like the top lineups people are gonna
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: be sifting through to then work your way back to
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  Speaker 1: a strong single entry. Now on the flip side, if
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: you do play like I do a full portfolio of lineups,
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  Speaker 1: then what it does for me is it's like a
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: forty thousand feet above the ground, like, okay, this this, this,
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: here's how I can do things differently. Let's see what
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  Speaker 1: those versions give me. Now I've got portfolio, like if
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: I have a you know, Sabersim portfolio diversification, it's going
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: to do that some of that for me. I can
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: start to see where my landing spots are and then say, okay,
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: some of these lineups there might be a bit aggressive
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  Speaker 1: for a three hundred person fifteen hundred dollars single entry,
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  Speaker 1: and people can extrapolate that down. I'm just saying like that,
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: I may, I may not need to go this aggressive,
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  Speaker 1: But this other lineup still has one, two three like
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  Speaker 1: high leverage spots. The build is different. It's not all
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: the high priced wide receivers. It's got more of the
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: high priced running backs. On a week like this where
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: people want Walker and Mason, it still gets a stack
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: that I like. That's not the top most popular, but
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: it's up there still. I'll look through it that way
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: and work my way backwards. But I do think that
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of people that are used to playing single
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: entry through twenty max do think about it this way,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: like Richard, and so it's totally okay. There's no right
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: or wrong I'm saying, but they think, like I get
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: so honed in on I need to get the best
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: version of this that I would start there and build out.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with that. But I think for
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: anybody who plays a ton of lineups, you should always
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: be working on your game for single entry, for playing
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: one lineup in a tournament where people have many entries,
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: for three, et cetera. And those are all things that
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: I connect to it. So where do you want to
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: go next with the ownership stuff anything else that you
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: had as far as just like how the ownership's connected
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: or who's connected the other builds, you're seeing things like that.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Not a ton in that regard, But I do think
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: it's worth talking about Chicago and Dallas because this is
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: kind of the only game that seems like is drawing
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: a ton of interest on both sides of the game.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: We might see some others kind of creep up that
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: way as the week goes on, but if you remember,
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: like in week one, we had massive, massive ownership on
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: a Mecca Buka and Drake London from that Tampa Atlanta game.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: We don't really have that sort of thing this week,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: but it's still we're talking about like one of the
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: biggest things that I have found so far this year
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: in my own research. And if anyone wants the data,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: you can't find the data in my discord. Follow me
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: at alex Plicka one on Twitter. You can find the
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: link to my discord there. But I say that to
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: basically say, like trust me when I'm when I'm when
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: I I say what I'm not to say I don't
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: say it lightly and don't say it's like a gut feeling.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I have the data to say this very definitively. We've
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: gotten to the point where people are over using mini stacks,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: and it's not necessarily that mini stacks are bad. It's
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: that when you really think about the purpose of a
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: mini stack, it's to add correlation to your lineup. Well.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Way too often people are just clicking two players from
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: the same game and assuming that that means that they're
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: positively correlated. It's not how it works. Positive correlation comes
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: from really knowing like the player's roles, the game scripts
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: that they that they excel in, whether a player can
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: hit his ceiling through efficiency and explosive plays that also
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: then boost the play volume for the other team, or
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: if that player himself needs that type of play volume boost.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: So when you think, like back to week one, when
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: you think of Drake London and Meca Buka, neither of
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: those guys are massive, like huge big play threats, especially
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Drake London. Drake London needs the big volume type game.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: So either you get the correlation because the game as
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: a hole goes off, in which case, guess what you
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: are definitely going to wish that you had the game
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: stack if you get like that thirty six thirty type
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: game that they played on an Island game last year
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: when I think it was Kirk Cousins, like Through for
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: five hundred dollars or something like that game wins overtime.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: If you don't have that stack, you're gonna get hurt
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: by it. So you're threading a very thin needle there.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: So all of that is basically to say, if you're
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: playing Dallas in Chicago this week, I think you either
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: want to embrace that game, go all in on it,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: or be very careful about how you play it, because
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: if you do something like Roma Dunes and cdee Lamb
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: and you're not stacking that game and that combo goes off,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: chances are you're getting beat by all of the people
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: who game stacked it. If you're playing it, you better
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: maybe pick one guy from that game and hope the
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: other side just fails and then the game doesn't go off.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: But I think that's like one of my big takeaways
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: for the Slave and how I really want to think
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: through it.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's a key component, right, Like,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: for example, like you know, a lot of the Rome
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: stuff from last week is he's still too cheap. We
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: just saw it happen, et cetera, et cetera. But like,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: what type of game was that last week? Yes, if
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the Chicago Dallas game goes like the Detroit Chicago game
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: from last week, you probably want that too. And it's
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: no surprise or secret everybody wants that game. I get it.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's more components to it because it
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: is a late swap position. It is a what did
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: your morning guys do for you? If they all failed,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: then it's gonna be a problem to just land on
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the same chock everybody else has. It's not gonna be
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: that many ways to get different within And I know
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: people think all Loveland and you know now Swift came
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: up on the injury report actually too, we got more
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: news today, but things like that, like there is other
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: ways to shake it out. But if you have a
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: bunch of spots there like that, it's probably a lot
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: better to hope that game fails if you've already had
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: failures in your line up in the morning, and just
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: figure it out whether you're going to Arizona Stacks, whether
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: you're going to chargers stacks, whatever that might be. And
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: we're gonna get to some of that stuff here shortly,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: of course, but I definitely think that's important to bring up.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: The other thing is in which is coming up soon
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: shortly here. But I mean, like Sean mentioning stuff like this,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: These are the types of things that I'm looking at.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: But I think many people look at this and they
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: don't fully look at this, and it doesn't mean this
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: will always be right. But I'll give you an example.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: And again, I know, Alex, we're kind of going through
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the segments our first show together doing it this way
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: with the segments, but just to note something like this,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of people just go pivot right and what
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: they mean. But that's quite simple. It's obviously you take
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: out the chalk Walker, you take out Kenneth Chalker, the
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: third that's gonna be the nickname for this week, and
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: then you bust in Javonte and say, okay, makes sense.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: It does, Like I get that that's how you're gonna
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: play that game differently, et cetera, et cetera. But what
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: you said earlier is there was a line you said
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: and I was trying to think about not just who
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: is chock, But why they're chalk and what ends up
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: happening with it? How's it connected? Well, what happens now?
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Like what happened that Walker did not come through that game?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: You know it's Seattle's favorited. I know the survivor people
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: are going nuts for it. By the way, I'll note
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: real quick, this is not like a you know, anything special,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Just to note it again. All the injury stuff just
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: came out. But the Seattle defense is banged up. Everybody's doubtful,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: like two corner or two safety is a corner somebody
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: else that was like, man, they're actually pretty banged up.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: So like I'm just giving an example. It's not my
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: favorite spot, and we'll have our stuff at the end
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: when we get to the last spot. But just another
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: spot I'm gonna mention is if you're not playing Kenneth
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Walker and you're gonna pivot off Walker to Javonte, I
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: actually wouldn't hate going to And here's the secondary part
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: to it. Them people say, well, I'll go to JSN,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: great possible. What about Donald, JSN and Cup in a
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Javonte lineup? What they're not even connected? Well they are
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: because I'm not going to the Chicago Detroit game. We
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: just talked about not wanting that mini stack because of that.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: If I'm playing Javonte over Walker, why is that just
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: to pivot to pivot or is it because I think
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: something else sets up within that game? And now maybe
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: you've got Donald JSN Cup with Javonte and Camara or
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson or something like that. It doesn't mean that
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: game goes off. I just that's a different way to
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: build it out. But you're building it thoughtful and with
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: everything else in Do you have anything to add on
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: that type of stuff? Because I think that's important when
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you're looking at not just moving off someone, but why
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: are you moving off them? And what does that mean
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: for the rest of the slate or the potential build?
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just what does it mean for the
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: rest of your lanup, it's what does it mean for
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: the this Like, it's not just who you're playing, it's
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: who you're making the choice to not play. And so
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: that's I think what you're nailing there. And and it
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: also reinforces why you wouldn't then want to go to
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: you know, Roman ced Land, because if you're if you're saying,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: all right, well, I'm playing Donald, like Donald Stacks get
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: hurt if Dak or Kayleb Williams Stacks go off. So
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: you're already saying I'm building for a slate where that
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: does not happen. And if that does not happen, then
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: CD and in Rome are less likely to smash then
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: some of the other guys that you can pivot off
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: of in that range or pivot to in that range,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: like a JSN. So I think that's that sort of
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: thing is exactly the way we want it kind of
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: think about these slates.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so as well. And it's all so
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: you know, just the way it all sets up is
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of the times people do that right, And
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: this relates fully to single and we're still sticking with
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: like the you know, twenty lines or less type thoughts
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: of like really getting down to a thought here, and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: and my take on that is where somebody will say,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: well I didn't get this, I didn't get this. I
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: better just throw in Lamb and o'doonsday and just to
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: have a piece of that. It's fine, but it's again
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: you need you need a lot more things to go
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: your way on all the other stuff. So hopefully if
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: you're doing that, you've got the you know, the the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: stuff nobody else has on your stack. Your run back
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: a running back, like, yeah, if you got five pieces
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: somewhere else and you do just want to link up
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: to that game, fine, but if they actually get seas,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: it's more that you'll need the ceiling from that side
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: probably then from those guys, and it's just like that
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: game kind of failed. That's why the rest of my
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: five guys that I have and some others came through
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and now a defense at the bottom and whatever, But
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I don't really need these guys. Can't ceiling or that
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: will overcome my stack and everything that went with it
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: versus now, I just needed a couple pieces in that game.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of like you said, it's
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: not like just who you're playing, but also who you're fading,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: and if you're fading them, what does that mean and why?
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: And does it really matter? In some spots it doesn't
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: matter at all. But another example would be you see
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: tons of weeks. You know, I do the review show
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: every week for years now. You talk about like you said,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: you got the data. We got the data for sure.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: You see tons of weeks where the chalk wide receiver
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that everybody was on like a Rome this week or
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: something like that. The winning Millionmaker lineup just basically has
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: the defense against that team, like the Dallas D this week.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: If you're not on that game at all and you're
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: not on either side, you can't really fit anything else
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and you just happen to land on the Dallas D.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't hate that because it's not really about the
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Dallas D. That would be just same as the variants.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: It all falls in at defense, like who cares, But
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you're not on the game anyway, And we know this
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: even in Showdown we see people avoid it like crazy
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: where you should actually play it more, but you know,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the defense versus somebody else. But in classics late pretty
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: much no one's doing that. So if you're on Dallas D,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: it just means you likely have none of the Caleb Williams.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: If Swift is out and that picks up steam there
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: or anything like that. The Dallas D just would be
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: a natural leverage in like the highest variant spot, So
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: who cares, you just landed there, But that can just
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: be a way to finish out your lineup. Was another
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: way to get different by not even forcing it if
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: you want to call it that.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The last thing I'll say here is in week
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: one the MILLI was one with like one hundred and
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: sixty one points. The four thousand dollars million was one
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: with one hundred and sixty one points. I think I
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: was at like one forty nine or something like that.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Last week I had a Russell Wilson neighbors THEO Johnson
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: sack of a Pickens bring back that scored one hundred
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: and sixty and it barely mincashed. And I bring this
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: up to say, like, this is why it's so important
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: to think about what you need from the players that
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: you're not playing. That's it's as important as who you're
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: playing that you get those guys right, because this the
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: scoring environment can just be so so so much lower
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: if you're right about who you don't play. And so
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: when I think, like sometimes people have trouble on understanding
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: why is it important if I can write about all
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: my guys, all my guys of ceiling performances, why do
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I care what anyone else does, Because they're having any
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: ceiling performance, they're not gonna get caught. Well, we're very
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: rarely writing on everyone we play and so giving yourself
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: an environment where you don't need to hit on every
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: single guy, you don't need ceilings from every single guy
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: that you pick just is so much easier to then
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: get the takedown than when you're actually trying to chase. Like, oh,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: in this lineup, I need to score two hundred and
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: forty points and have every single wide receiver that scores
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: forty on this Like, that's just so much harder to
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: get right.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll see it randomly, but like last week could
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: be a prime example. Somebody who got to Russell Wilson
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: with neighbors with Robinson and then all of a sudden,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: they you know, instead of having Pickens or someone that
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: would be like an obvious run back in that stack.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: You saw they have Puka and then they've.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Got Chase and I'm on Ross Saint Brown, yeah, and I'm.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: On the flag like or something. I was like, what
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the heck? Like you if you get beat by that,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: that's just part of the game. But it's like, yeah,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be much trickier to just get all those
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: things right and nail them exactly. But yeah, if you
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: were a you know, a fortune teller or something, you
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: got that then by all means like build those lineups,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: but it's much tougher, uh to get to. So before
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: we go to segment number two, which is where we're
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: gonna sort of go through and break down how to
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: leverage the common build, including the player combinations and game
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: stacks and whatnot, Richard says, would you shrink twelve gamer
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: since you have limited? I think it's like a third.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Is this a thirteen gam or a twelve game? I
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: can't remember, but sure, I think? But go ahead?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Are you asking like if I would prefer to play
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: early only or afternoon only because.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I like it? Yeah? Say, I think he's saying that
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: when you have a big slate because we're early and that,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: you know, whens the season goes on, someone's get smaller
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: slates things like that, would you sort of shrink down
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: to the spots you were landing on to say, Okay,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I need to just hit on these games to make
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: it easier on myself to build this single entry or
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: would you build multiple single entries to help compensate for
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: different options? Oh?
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Interesting, No, I I when I even if I mean
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: like ten to in single entry contests, I'm playing one line.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: It's to me it's not just about being in a
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: single entry contest versus three entry contests. It's about I
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: feel so much more confident in my ability to build
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: one excellent lineup than ten excellent lineups. If I'm only
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: building one, I know I can do that really well,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: and I'll just throw that in every contest that I play,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: and I will only choose contests where it makes sense
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: to play that lineup, So satellites, single entries, things of
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: that nature. But even like the satellites I'm playing, it's
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: usually like I'm trying to beat seventy people and I'm
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: trying to beat one hundred and nineteen people something like that,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: and not three people, because I shouldn't play my contrarian
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: aggressive style lineup in a three person contest, even if
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: it's for a ticket instead of a large cash prize.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's the way I approach.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: That's good too, because that's a very common question that
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: comes up. And so I say, like a lot of
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: people were really excited for the show, because there's not
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of people that break this stuff down or
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: give you their insight on their single entry play or
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: the three max or whatever. But a lot of the
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: players in the world, and you know me and you
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: spend a ton of time talking about it. I dissect
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: it with DFS Mastermind. We break it down all the shows.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: But when you look back at what these players are doing,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: if they they usually have their single entry and do
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: exactly what Alex does, it's gonna be played out to
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I'm in the set, I'm in the saddies, I'm in
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the live final qualifiers, whatever that might be. But then
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: if they want another lineup, they just do the same
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: thing and may and they'll say, Okay, then I'm gonna
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: play five max or six max, whatever it is, and
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: then it'll be in like the four hundred and ninety
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: dollars f FWC that has six or this week and
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: has seven entries, they'll have seven main lineups and one
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: of them is their single untry, which goes all the
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: way up to the fifteen hundred dollars single entry, which
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: they've clearly chosen for that, and it's everywhere else. But
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: that's why you see when somebody wins the whole slate,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: it's like they have it there. They have it in
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the five fifty five, they have it in the queues,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: they have it everywhere, and it just happens. So yeah,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good answer to that. One new
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: one says, do you recommend always picking your single entry
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: from your MME set twenty fifty or do you handbuild
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: a complete new one? Personally, I want four control of
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: mine up to about twenty. We had that conversation a
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: little bit earlier. I think the key is, you know,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: it's all what's your what your preference is. I think
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: what I've found in just my time going through a
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff and my experience is I've always been
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: an MM player, so I did have to work my
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: way back. I remember telling people who follow me for
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: a long time, we'll know from the gall streets, even
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: saying like I'm working on my three max game. I'm
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: working on taking all these lineups and figuring out how
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I can get down to my one best, Whereas I
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: think most people are uncomfortable playing up to one point
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: fifty and therefore they've always worked well on like, let
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: me build my best lineup. So I think that's right
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and it's good. I don't think there's the right answer anyway,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: but I think that makes a ton of sense from
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: your experience level and where you're at, because it's just
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: how you've always played, So for you, that would make
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: a ton of sense. Geordan, I think that. I think
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: that's right.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Well, And to your point there, Tamba, like I've worked
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: on my three remax game this year and last year
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: too because of satellites. You know, the only time I
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: ever do more than one lineup is well, if I
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: just won three tickets into this hunt, so I'm obviously
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: gonna use all three tickets and use them on three
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: different lineups. So yeah, Like there were a couple of
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: baseball slits this year where I had won three tickets
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: into a contest, and so for the week prior, I
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: played three entry every time just to get in that
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: rhythm to kind of, you know, feel out what kind
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: of strategies I liked in that first switch ones I didn't,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I agree. And to that point, like I
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: always want to handbuild a single entry. If I had
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: twenty max, I would still hand build that single I
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: might use one of the twenty maxes. I might like
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: look at it and say, hey, you know what, I
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: can't hand build a lineup better than this. This has
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: every single thing that I'm looking for in a lineup.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: This is the best I can do, but I would
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: still come to that conclusion because I'm also handbuilding to
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: that and just saying, yeah, it matches up. I don't
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: care that I'm using the same one. This is the
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: best I can do.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: And that's a sign of a true process, right, not
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: saying that everyone. It's just you know, my biggest thing
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: has always been when people say I'll just trust the
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: process and they don't help you get one, or they
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: don't teach you one or nothing like that, and then
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: you're like, well, what is the problem. That's what we're
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: trying to help people with. And I think that's kind
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: of the key component there. You have that process down
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: where it's like that's what you do and there's nothing
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: stopping you, Like there's no way around it. That's just
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: what you're gonna do each week. So makes a ton
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: of sense. And then obviously as you can get better
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: at it, just keep honing that skill for different sports
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: that you're playing different That's how people do it. You
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: see people winning. You won a ton in the golf streets,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: you just want a ton in the NFL streets, And
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: in the past, you win the satellites. You do all
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: this stuff where you just have that down and so
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: that's your proven process being able to do it that way.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Let's go to section two here, segment two and talk
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: about this stuff because you brought onto the takedown breakdown
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: that we did for week one. You brought on and
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: you brought up earlier the London Egbuka like the combination
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: of those two and how often they were showing up.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Do you have other stuff like that for this week
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: or sort of what's coming to mind when you're talking about,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: first off, some of the specific options like that and
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: if the chat, if you guys got any that you're
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: seeing this week, by all means let us know. But
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I can promise you if you've been playing DFS for
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: a long time, so you can just go back and
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: look at your lineups real quick before you submit or
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: before lock, and you're like, holy smokes, I got this
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: guy and this guy in a mini stack and like
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: every lineup and it may or may not even make
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: sense besides the fact that they're in the same game.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: So what are you seeing like that for this week? Yeah?
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I already alluded to it a little bit, but Roman
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb I think is the combination to avoid this
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: week and one of the cool things. And so going
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: back to Week one, what I did specific was I
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: thought of Buka was just a fantastic play. I thought
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: he was a really high probability play for his price,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: and importantly, I didn't think there was anyone that I
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: could pivot to around his price that was anywhere near
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: his high probability to actually have a good game. So
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I wanted to play at BUCA, but I knew then, Okay,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I don't want to play London. And so if I'm
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: making the conscious decision to not play London, if I'm
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: hoping that he fails, well then I can pivot to
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: somebody else. So what I ended up going with did
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: not work out because instead of London, I went to
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior, and when I were talking about it
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: on Twitter, like he had opportunities for big plays where
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: maybe I would have won the whole thing if Brian
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Thomas or if Trevor Lawrence hits him on an open
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: slant and he takes it to the house. Didn't work out,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: but the idea was there and the proop was in
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: the pudding. They're like, how easy it would have been
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: for me to really benefit from that, and it didn't
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: hurt me because again a pooka in London were not
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: that correlated. So I think that sort of thing. So
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: if you're let's say you really like Rome this week,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: you can play Rome, just then don't play Cede Lamb
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: and try and find a pivot off of Lamb, whether
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: that's Chase, whether it's Puka, whether it's Justin Jefferson. If
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: one of those guys smashes and Cedee Lamb doesn't, you
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: can end up with a Roman Dunsay. Let's say Roman
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Dunsa is twenty five percent, Well if if he's twenty
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: five percent overall, he might only be like ten percent
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: owned in lineups that don't include Cde Lamb that don't
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: have that game stacked in some way, So you're you're
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: actually getting a very chalky piece in any contrarian way.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: It's a really good way to play into chalk without
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: feeling like, oh, I'm just doing what everyone else is doing. No,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: you're doing something very unique. You're playing it really sharply,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: and you get the benefit of having this like really
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: good value at fifty four hundred dollars.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is for week three. But I will say
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: just something I saw last night that I thought was
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: interesting in the showdown slate because a lot of what
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: you just said really can apply in that as well.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: A lot of people were playing Malik Washington super popular
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: value play thirty two hundred, but a lot of people
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: were playing Malik Washington in a expensive Captain lineup, so
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: it's more like a Star of Scrubs if you will.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Of that. Also, a lot of people were playing Malik
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Washington instead of Waddle, even though Wattle was ruled in.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: They were saying, I'm gonna play him instead of Waddle
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: because you know, I'm gonna trust in him. What ended
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: up happening is the build that won, and forget the
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Ali Gordon, the second stuff, et cetera, et cetera. Like
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: that's important, it matters in the result. But I just
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: want to explain the concept because it goes to what
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: you just said is if you had Malik Washington with Waddle,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: where most were going one or the other and not all,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: but like enough that was kind of a thought process.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: And then secondly, you had Kinkaid at captain, which still
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: allowed you to get the other studs, you had to
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: leave out a Chan and one of one of a Chan.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: James Cook or Josh Allen in the ende of Josh
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Allen James Cook, but you might not have got a
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Chan and Tyreek in that lineup, and that's kind of
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: how that played out. So it's using a chalky value play,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: but in a balanced build versus eight stars and scrubs
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: if you will, and with someone that he may or
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: may not be with, where a lot of people are
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: trying to leverage it. I always talking with this. You're
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: allowed to play them both together, like you could just
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: play them both. We do it in golf all the time.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, this guy or that guy, you have
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: to put six in your lineup, and they're both like
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: seventy three hundred. So you can actually just play both.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: But that just doesn't happen right. You don't see it enough.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: So I think that's just an interesting concept. Another interesting
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: concept because when you and I first talked about this
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: second segment was two main you can leverage the overall build.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: You can pivot off the chalk, or you can flip
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: the build. Well, another thing I'm thinking about when it
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: comes to that with the combinations. I know we talked earlier.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I mentioned that Darnald one will go there with some others.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: But another thing about the combinations this week is most
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: weeks you could literally just sort my ownership projections and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: you'll be able to start to put them together. This
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: week is different. Like, there's okay, Kenneth Walker is gonna
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: get steamed up and be chalk fine, But does anyone
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: really want anyone on New Orleans? Not really? Like Juwan
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Johnson's getting a light mention at tight end, so you
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: could see that become one like Walker and Juwan, but
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: they're both so cheap. They're both technically in pretty good
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: spots like that that could be at least something that
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: makes sense if depending on the type of lineup that
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: you've got. But like, I don't see a ton of
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: people with Jordan Mason just naturally putting in Jamar Chase.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: It's again, he gets expensive. They've already got Lamb in
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: there probably or something like that. So there's that. I
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: don't see a ton of people playing Christian McCaffrey with
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Trey McBride because they will both have pretty good ownership,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: but together they become expensive and really change the overall
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: build that you have there. So I don't I just
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: look at it and I don't see many this week
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: outside of Rome and CD or Roman could be Pickens
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: comes in close behind that as well. People go more balanced.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: But like even Bijon, if he picks up steam Ted
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: doesn't look like he's gonna be as popular as he
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: has been, even though it's been fine Puka, I don't
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: see Philly guys being super popular. So I just don't
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: see a lot of the guys that are getting ownership
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: having a secondary piece that's as common. And I think
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of it just stems from that Chicago Dallas
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: spot that we spend time on already.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree completely. In fact, I really don't have
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: anything else to add to it. I think you nailed
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: and importantly with with like the Roman Pickens idea, people
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: should know that will also be a lot higher on.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Like one of the ways you can just think about
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: it is I think part of it is because of
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: contest sims. Because contest sims have become so prevalent in
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: our industry now, it's like that sort of thing is
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: going to sim super well because sites around the industry
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: are not doing a good enough job of putting that
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: kind of thing in their field lineups that they're then
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: simming against and so they're going to say, like, okay,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Rome and Pickens lineups are simming really well, well, now
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: everyone's going to have Rome Pickens line So Rome Pickens
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: lineups are going to be more popular than are actually
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: in the field lineups that are being used in the
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: contest sims, and so they're going to be overrated. That's
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: kind of like the story of why this has become
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: the case. I think contestims explains why many stats are
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: now actually being overused. But you can't just solve this
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: by saying, Okay, well instead of going to the most
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: popular one, I'll just go to something else. No, people
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: are already doing that. That's already something that enough people
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: are trying to do to get different that you're not
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: getting that conditional ownership discount on somebody that you get
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: by playing Rome with a Jamar Chase instead of Ceedee Lamb.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: You don't get that same discount by going Rome and
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Pickens instead of Roman Lamb. It's also going to be
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: more popular because they're in the same game and because
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: people are using that as a big step.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when we talked about the combinations of these ownerships
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: and guys playing together on that week one show where
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: we broke it down and you know, sort of bring
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: it to this. We talked about it too. You don't
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: really get the answer sheet until Monday, right, or really
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: until Sunday when it locks and it's fully done. You
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: kind of see, okay, this is what ended up happening.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: But we do have a good idea of it going in.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: And I think another thing just is, like you said,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: we talked in the first segment about how ownership is moving.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: So here's another example, right why it matters. And like
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: everyone trying to build lineups on Thursdays, like I get it.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Like you want to spend time with your family on
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: the weekend, we do too, like everybody. We love family.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: That's important. But at the end of the day, this
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: stuff is so important. Here's a prime example. If Tyler
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Warren is ruled out because I know he's banged up,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: and who knows what ends up happening, but just to
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: say it, if he was ruled out, he's forty four hundred,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I Juwan is like not that far behind him right now.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: And that's like a prime example. When people are already
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: playing Kenneth Walker's not going to go away from anytime soon.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: That's where you become Okay, now that becomes a common
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: one that goes together. And while people are like, oh,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I don't need Ferguson for four K, I'm already playing
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker with Chicago and Dallas stacks. Why don't I
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: just play Jawan in here and get a secondary stack
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: with Jawan and Kenneth Walker. And then the game goes
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: that it's all through the air and it's not needed
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: or ends up being Kamara on the ground and it's
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: the Seattle pass attack coming back and it's not Jowan
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: as heavy at all.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Well, this is also a perfect example because there's no
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: like added correlation there, and I think some people will
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: point to the idea of, oh, well, what if the
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: game script goes Kenneth Walker and the Seahawks lead and
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: New Orleans forced to pass. Okay, that's already the expectation
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: for the game, that's already baked into their projections. If
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: if that happens, if Kenneth Walker scores a bunch of touchdowns,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: John Johnson is not suddenly in a much better environment
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: than what was expected than is expected, So that doesn't
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: change anything in the condition probabilities of each of those
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: players going off doesn't improve when the other one does,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: which is basically how we should think through correlation. So
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: that's a perfect example of people will feel really good
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: about having this secondary stack and adding a bunch of
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: correlation to the lineup, but the correlation doesn't actually exist,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: and therefore that duo that Mini sack is going to
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: be really overwhelmed.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love what you said there, because again, does
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: a correlation exist because they're in the same game in
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: that game script, yes, but does it really improve? I
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: mean yet, like you said, does it improve? Is the
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: bigger point that you made to me that matters more.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's what you thought was going to happen.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Is why Kenneth Walker is so we talked earlier. Why
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: are they chalk not just who is chock? Why are
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: they chalk Kenneth Walker's chock because they're bigger favorites at
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: home touchdown or more favorites against the Saints, who are
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: two weeks in. They suck right Who knows what they
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: do this week, but they definitely suck right now at
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: least everybody, and so they're gonna score a bunch the
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Charbonnat's out, He's just gonna run, run, run, he's gonna
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: scrore all the points and then it doesn't auto equal
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Jawan Johnson getting you a touchdown or two or whatever.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: That is like everything you thought, like you said, was
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: already baked in. So what a good example of something
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: like that where I think that just makes people feel
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: warm and fuzzy and excited about it, and it's like
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: you didn't really get some crazy increase there, You just
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: got what was already thought about. And again it could
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: steam up as a combo even more already, and then
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: on top of it you could get other things that
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: happen where like I said, if Warren is out or
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: banged up, or people are unsure, or if people just
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: don't get to Ferguson because they're like, you know what, listen,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going with Lamb, I'm going with Pickens, I'm going
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: with Turpin, I'm going with you know whatever. They know
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Javonte is leverage like all these different things, and they
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: just say, I don't need Ferguson here. I can just
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: save one hundred and get my little secondary stack in
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: with Walker and him. That stuff happens all the time,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: and that's how we see stuff move and why the
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Saturday slot will be good as we get closer to
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the starting next week and beyond. But just to note,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I think that's that's the type of things that we're
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: looking at right.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so just to like fully connect the dots there,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: that means if you really really like Kenneth Walker, we're
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: not saying don't play him, but if you play him,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: don't play Jawan. And when you don't play Juwan, it
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: could make some even more sense to say, all right,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not playing Juwan at thirty nine hundred because I
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: don't want to use this over owned pairing. So if
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I'm therefore hoping that Juwan fails, I'll play Kyle Pitts
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: instead at the same price, I'll play Jake Ferguson or TJ. Hockinson.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: And now if that guy does really well, even if
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: he gets me fifteen, if Juwan fails it gets seven,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: that's a really good advantage that I'm getting over a
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: lot of the other Kenneth Walker lineups, which I think
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: is the key there.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's other little things that you can do,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: like you know, an example of beeks for getting some
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: of these now, but like what if you play Shahed,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: what if it's not check down city and then eventually
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: a touchdown for Jawan Johnson, but it's like a bomb
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: to Shaheed and another couple catches to get him the bonus,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: and now he becomes the guy in that spot and
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: it is still a secondary stack and it is still
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker on the ground like you expect and why
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: he was chalk, et cetera. But it ends up being
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: something like that. So there's definitely ways that can make
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: those moves, and it's what we started with here. Pivot
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: off the chalk or flip the build. That's a way
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: to kind of mix them together because you're you're not
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: gonna play the again the chalk in our case talking
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: here now is if that became a combination that becomes popular,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: how are ways you can get different and then flipping
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: the build like we talked about too, or sort of
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: leveraging it like what this is all about would be
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: like if you went to what I mentioned earlier, If
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: you want to go Sam Donald JSN Cup say that
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: it's through the air well, that would be better with
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson to me than like that combo pack that
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: just we just talked about being so popular. It doesn't
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: change much either, but it's noted where it's just a
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: much different way of playing it. And even then, what
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: if you go Shahed do the same thing we talked
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: about earlier. Everybody else has Caleb Williams, Rome, DJ Moore
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: and Pickens or Lamb, and we look after it and
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: we say we're going with Donald JSN, Cooper Cup and
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Shahed or o Lave or whatever, and now you can
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: just fill it in and what oh wait there's but wait,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: there's more introversial for you. That leaves a lot of
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: money on the table because there is no Lamb in
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: that version. Those are all cheap wide receivers. So what
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: ends up happening now is, oh, I got all this money.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Guess who doesn't have all this money? The LAMB lineups
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: that we talked about with the Daks or they're Caleb Williams,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: they have to go Mason and Walker. You're able to
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: go Bijon, Jonathan Taylor or Bucky and something that you
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: just end up in a totally different build. And we
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: talk about flipping the build. You're you're making a move
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: to leverage it up, but you're also moving to a
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: build that makes more that still makes a ton of sense,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: but still makes more sense than what we were just
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: talking about, probably still projects well and is a completely
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: different style of build that puts you way ahead of
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: others completely.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this idea of kind of flipping the build,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: and I think we might talk about it a little
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: bit more when we get to our favorite leverage lane
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: at the very end.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what else do you want to talk about with here?
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Because the other thing we had mentioned that we definitely
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: wanted to spend time on, and we spent a ton
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: on Again. I think like people will think it's a
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: cop out, probably, but like this is the thing about
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: this week right now, you get some these weeks where
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: there is the one standout game, I think it still
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: brings in a ton Like Mark says, you know, Mark says,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: love this content, amazing information. That's kind of the thought
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: process in a week like this is it's way more
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: about thinking outside the box, thinking about some of these
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: other angles of attack and how to do it. But
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: what other game stacks are you thinking of? Maybe? You know, again,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: fading would be the obvious. If you're gonna fade one,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: you could fade that one and try and make up
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: for it elsewhere via the running backs that are stronger
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: they can't get to, or a high priced tight end
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: that they can't get to. But I think something that's
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: interesting is is there any game stacks Alex where you
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: would want to sort of set it up for a
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: more balanced build, but with guys that can can find
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the ceiling still that could really just break this this
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: slate that way.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'll serve with some context here. In week one,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I played Daniel jonestacks. I didn't really come up with
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: the idea to play Daniel Jones stack until Friday afternoon
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Saturday morning, and I didn't make up my mind until
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Saturday night that I was gonna play a Daniel Jones stack.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Last week, I didn't really come up with the idea
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: to play Russell Wilson stacks until again, like Friday evening,
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: and it wasn't until Saturday night that I was giving
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: them real consideration to actually play that stack. So I'm
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: actually quite comfortable here on a Friday night not knowing
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: what stack I'm gonna go to. There are a lot
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: that I'm still thinking through. Part of this, of course,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: is that we we got some news today. For example,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: if if Jayden Daniels was playing, I am pretty confident
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: that I would be playing at Jana and Daniels, Deebo,
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Samuel Terry, McLaurin, brock Bauer Stack. Pretty sure that would
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: be my go to. I think we can still play
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: this game stack because Mariota has been just fine when
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: forced to play for Jane and Daniels in the last year.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: But I don't necessarily know that I want to go there.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: And I actually, like, weirdly think that because Mariota is
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: four thousand dollars, it might make McLaurin more popular. It
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: might make Deebo more popular because all of a sudden
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: people want to play this four thousand dollars quarterback and
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: they want to stack him, whereas they weren't going to
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: stack Jayda and Daniels previously. So I have a lot
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: to think through in that regard. But Washington is on
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: my list, Tyron Taylor is on my list. Look, if
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: I get on Daniel Jones and Russell Wilson weeks one
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: and two, my confidence in picking a bad quarterback is
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: pretty high right now. So we'll have to excuse me
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: if I'm naming just bad quarterbacks right now. But I
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: will throw out Lad McConkie and Justin Herbert. I think
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: this is a really really good spot for Ladd this Dever,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: secondary hasn't been as good as we've seem to think
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: coming into the season. Even last year when they were
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: a great defense, they had games think of the Island
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: game where Jameis Winston and Jerry Judy lit them up.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: They had games really gave up ceiling performances. So I
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: am not afraid of the ceiling at all. And I
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: absolutely love the pass rate that we're seeing from the Chargers,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: So I think that game has an underrated likelihood of
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: becoming one of those like thirty five to twenty eight
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: style of shootouts. And so Herbert with Ladd and I
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: always double stack and I always use a bringback. I
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: don't know who those pieces of the stack would be in,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: but Herbert and Ladd are very intriguing to me.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Keenan's popping a little bit too, So again,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: it all depends on where you end up.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: But I think a second one, yeah, I think it
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: would be Herbert, Ladd, Caanan and then probably something And
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: to your point, like that is a very balanced build.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not using a stud anywhere, but I'm also not
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: paying down.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: I think the other thing too, like the show we
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: did earlier today, myself Mayo own scuore up patrol, Troy
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Troy Flank, Troy Franklin. Sorry, was popping in the optimal there.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: So it's like that's interesting. I mean, that's just an
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: early build and whatnot. But just to note it just
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: shows you that's what's always interesting too. I think a
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: couple of notes there. One and by the way, did
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: you just give away your lane? Is that your light
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: at the No?
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: No, I've thrown you a curve ball because I thought
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: of the lane while you said something early on in
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: the show. So I've got my leverage lane locked.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: In now, stay tuned, Stay tuned. That's coming up in
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: the final se segment, the light at the end of
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: the lane, where Alex and I will give what our
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: thoughts are putting it all together. You know, I got
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: to mention a couple more so we can get there.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: But just quickly on that is there's pieces popping, but
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: people aren't getting to that. Like this is actually prime
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: right here, Jordan says, Keenan four point seven probably gets it, maybe,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: but again, where is that all connecting? That's just a
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: it's fine as a one off because he's not the
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: popular one off anyway, and so that's fine. But to
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Alex and My's point right here, if he already likes
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Lad and he's comfortable with him with Herbert, and he
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: can find that runback, it's Sutton Franklin who knows where
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: he goes. But the note being, well, that's how you
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: just strip that clean where even if Keenan does get
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: pumped a little bit or steamed up, you'd be fine anyway.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I just don't see that happening any other way.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: James hold it moonwalking. I just call it reverse team.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: But I think Keenan Aden could actually be a reverse
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: team guy. Because we're getting more paydown options at running back.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: They're going to allow people to pay up at wide receiver,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: so fewer people might have to find value at the
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: wide receiver position, which means fewer people might go to
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Keenan Allen to save money. So there is a chance
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: that he could actually go the opposite direction and end
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: up like a ten percent play something like that. And
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: if you had Keenan go back a little bit to
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: ten percent and you could play Ladd and Herbert both
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: under ten percent, that to me is a phenomenal double stack.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: It's also a phenomenal late swap spot, Like I think
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: that's a that's one. I also think another one again
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: whether or not it works out. But just to notice,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: if you like Marvin Harrison McBride, Kyler, we will get
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: more San Francisco news, whether it's with the purty stuff
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: we saw today, the Jennings stuff that's coming, there's gonna
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: be again. People are just so lazy to swap. It's nuts,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: like people, Oh, I'm so dialed into NFL. How many
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: lineups did you late swap out of your X amount?
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I just didn't even get I checked a couple, I
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: hit these ones and I moved on. It's like it's
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: just a natural thing. So things like that that you
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: can find out. I want to shout out to my
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: boy Jake, first time seeing them all season here. Love
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: to see that. And then this one was brought up
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: as well. I thought was I had two more things
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about. One was this our guy
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Richard's many super active tonight. We love that stuff. We
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: always bring you guys up, so appreciate you chucking some
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: stuff in the chat for us. But you know, Wentz,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I think Mariota's gonna be popular and Wentz that's an
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: important piece to talk about. So if you're you know,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: we're looking at that to flip the Mason stuff though,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: there's that's another thing. So where I was going with
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: it earlier, Justin Jefferson is still right there with Pooka,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: with CD just above him. If people get to Chase,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can play both those guys. But if
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Mason is super popular still and Wentz is not going
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: to be as popular as Mariota, then like Wentz, Justin
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Jefferson and Hawkinson, you could do whatever. And if you're
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: already saving that much money with Wentzon Hawkinson, you could
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: play Jamar Chase on the other side and hope there's
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: just a back and forth between those two. And again
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: that's not on the Chicago Detroit game, but man, talk
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: about a spot that could break the slate. If those
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: guys had their ceiling games. We know what they're capable of.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Will they with backup quarterbacks? Who knows? But wouldn't it
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: be funny when they do finally have Because Justin Jefferson
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: been very quiet sometime now, Chase really good week last week.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Still obviously I think you know you would expect it
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: hurts him with no Burrow, but we know what he
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: can do with Jake Brown and can come through. So
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the thought process of if
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: you saw those guys break the slate, you would kind
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: of have to chuckle to yourself and be like, of
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: course when they both have their backup quarterback, but couldn't
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: you see something like that happening? And just I don't
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: see enough people landing there even though it seems like
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: they should be.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tamba, you brought it up on the screen, but
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: I don't remember who mentioned the fact that the Chargers
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: game is like a perfect late swap opportunity off the
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Chicago Dallas game if you don't start well. Herbert lad
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Keenan and Franklin, you guys talked about. And Franklin, by
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: the way, I think like really benefits from now Evan
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Ingram and gets a lot of those quick short targets
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: that otherwise Ingram could get. Is almost the exact same
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: price as Caleb DJ Moore, Rome and a Pickens bring back.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: So I always say, like, when you are using late swap,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: it shouldn't be it's three forty five on Sunday you're
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: not doing well and you're clicking around trying to figure
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: out what you can pivot to. You should go ahead
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: of time. If I'm doing well, if I'm in position,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: I'm going with this block of players. If I'm out
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: of position, I'm going with this block of players. And
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: that's a perfect one that you can use right there.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Herbert Ladd Canan Franklin versus Caleb Rome, DJ.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: And pickets and prime example of two. Again going back
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: to what this is all about and the single entry
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: stuff in the smaller field, and again you have less
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: lineups to handle, but you can also know that going
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: in like if everything fails for you, if whatever fails
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: for you in the morning, and that's your stack, you've
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: got the natural pivot. That's where people struggle so hard, like,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: oh should I pivot? Should I do this? Well, if
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: you were thinking ahead of it, and I've talked about
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: this a ton, I have a video in the Mastermind
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Project which shows me breaking down my five lineups in
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: that big main event last year. They're running a mid season.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: By the way, I saw DraftKings put up the eleven eleven.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: It's the one thousand and eleven dollars. It's going to
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: be a month from now with a million bucks to
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: first in the smaller field. But when I was breaking
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: that down, a lot of people were like, man, I
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: had no idea you would be that far ahead of
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: like thinking about your moves. But I had all my
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: stuff sort of planned out, so it's like, if this happens,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: then I moved to this. I've got this covered over
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: like I had everything covered. That's the levels that people
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: are playing at to make sure that they're putting themselves
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: in the best position possible. And that's a prime example
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: that you mentioned that And I was gonna say that
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: earlier about your I lost it here now, but anyway,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I know what it was. It was the when you
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: were talking about the Washington Stack. That's another thing that's
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: actually kind of similar. Like McLaurin is right below Pickens,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: just above Odoons. Yes, it's a bit more expensive for debo,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: but it's a different build, especially talking about someone like
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Bowers or whatever being in it. But you also have
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: the cheap quarterback. So again you're not going to get
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: to it from morning versus afternoon, per se. But I'm
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: just saying, like, from the thought process of how you're
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: building and what you're doing on this slate, that's definitely
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: a spot that you could see building a similar lineup
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: where you're just saying, if this beats that, I mean,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: pretty good position, and then what does the rest of
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: that lineup look like? So I think that's good. That's
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: all we were saying. He's been planning for week six.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I was saying, within that's just noting the eleven eleven's
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: coming up. I was saying, I had five lineups in
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: the thirty three it was, I think it was thirty
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: three thirty three Mega Main event last year, and I
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: was giving away a percentage to the community, all this
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: different stuff. In my five lineups. I had already planned
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: ahead for what the late swaps would look like and
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: sort of what the possibilities at least so that I
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be scrambling going into that afternoon, because even if
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: like two or three min cash is, they're all one
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: off tickets, So two or three min cashes is still
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: big money to be able to move forward. So I
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: think I think that's kind of stuff that people don't
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: fully focus on. We didn't spend a lot of time
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: at running back besides the main ones that we talked
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: about but I think the biggest thing for me is
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: just that the build has flipped overnight with the I
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: mean within from this morning to to tonight, I should say,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: from like the Kenneth Walker stuff, because before you mentioned it,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: but it was going to be Mason with Jonathan Taylor,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Bijon and Christian McCaffrey and then whoever else you fit
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: in there. Now you're seeing Mason and Walker, and if
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: they get to a third, you know, is it Viijan,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: is it Taylor? Is it McCaffrey. I think it's interesting.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey was looking like he would be a lot more popular,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: and I think he's one that we could see come
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: back a little bit, just because people the uncertainty. Now
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: there's a late swap that could also boost him back up.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying when people say, like, eh, will I
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: really need him for that price tag, he's a similar
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: price point at a different position. But you can use
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: him in flex because he's afternoon and he's a similar
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: price point to Cede Lamb. So if you did have
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: like Lamb in the flex and you found out that
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: this worked in your favor, you could move to that.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: But I wanted to get your take on Jonathan Taylor
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: for spoiler alert reasons, But what is your take. I
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: didn't want to leave him out for sure. I think the.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Best thing I can say about him, Number one, is
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: that he's the kind of player who's viable no matter what,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: because when he hits, he's hitting with a six yard touchdown,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: and it is so hard to not do well on
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: a sleigh when you have a sixty yard touchdown, right, So,
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: even when the Colts have been bad, even when he
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: hasn't been one of the best fantasy producers for like
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: the whole course of a season, he still gives you
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: GPP winning upside in any given week. And what I
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: really like that we're seeing this year is a much
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: more valuable receiving role. It's nothing he's never been targeted
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: before in the passing game, but his targets have been
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: you know, it's a second and eight and it's just
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: a dump off. He released out of protection and it
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: was a four yard perception. That doesn't really help you.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: What he's getting now is well designed swing passes in
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: space with room to run. We saw a forty three
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: yard reception in the last game. That type of thing
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: adds so much value to him. It's like, imagine if
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Derrick Henry suddenly was going to get three to six
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: more receiving points per game from a fantasy perspective compared
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: to what he'd done in the past. I think we're
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: going to see that from Jonathan Taylor. I don't love
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: them matchup, but just from a pure like DFS theory perspective,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: he is the type of play that I love because
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: he's got the week to week upside, and he's a
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: little bit undervalued right now, I think because I'm not
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: sure people have caught up to how much more valuable
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: his receiving role should be this year with Daniel.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Jones a quarterback. Yeah, And I think that's the other thing.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: So the receiving role is huge, and I'm gonna throw
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: you a curve ball in a minute too. So the
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: t fine. But the other thing is the setup of
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: if McCaffrey and Bijon do come down a little bit
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: based on all this news there, it is a possibility,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: being that he's seven hundred or even a thousand with
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey less, to just pop down to him if people
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: need that money. I saw a lot of builds today
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: talking about combinations that could land on Jonathan Taylor and
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: that Colts defense. So I think they see that stuff
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: and they just want to pick on Tennessee and et cetera,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: et cetera. So I definitely think there's a chance we
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: see him being used a little bit more. And I
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: know a lot of people saw that that catch and
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: run last week that you alluded to there, that forty
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: three yard run and say, even some of the posts
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: on X were like, man, imagine if he could get
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: more of these that key and you said, and imagine
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: with Derek Henry, you don't want that guy from a
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: dead stop, let alone in motion coming at you already
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: with speed. So that's the type of stuff that we're
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: always begging more and be like, oh, if we could
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: just get this, and even as a Ravens fan, like, oh,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: we can just see this stuff happen, it'd be so
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: much better. But yeah, that's interesting. So I think that's
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: gonna do it for segment number two. I love all
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: the the you know, interaction people in the chat. Let
• 1:00:23
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• 1:00:24
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• 1:00:26
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• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: and let's talk about segment number three, the light at
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: the end of the lane, putting it all together. We
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: talked about playing in your own lane, staying in your
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: own lane. What sort of thought this this for future
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: reference for everybody. This could be a stack, It could
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: be a secondary stack. It can be a type of
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: roster construction. Today. We gave you a bunch because we
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: we hit it on a bunch early too. Like I
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: love your call there with the Herbert stuff. That's a
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: great one, especially for the late swap. You gave him
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: the tidbit on you know, this equals this as far
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: as prices are concerned, Like you can really do a
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: lot with stuff like that, going in early and having
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: that ammunition up top before the slave even starts. But
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: give us yours. You said you were gonna throw me
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: a curveball. What's your lane this week? Where are you going?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: So we're all start? Is actually like there's a lot
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: that we haven't talked about on the show, Like we
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: haven't gone through the tight ends that we like, for example,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: things of that nature. And I think that that's actually
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: kind of a good thing because anyone watching like, chances
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: are you guys have strong opinions yourselves, and you have
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: players that you have conviction on this week. It's not
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: valuable for us to only tell you who we like
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: to play, and if that's all we're giving you, you're
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: not getting much out of that because you're probably gonna
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: play the guys that you have strong conviction on anyway.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: So what we're trying to do here is we're trying
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: to give you ways to think about the slate so
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: that you can build really, really good lineups, the best
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: possible lineup that you can build, while also playing the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: guys that you have conviction on. So whether that's you know,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Brock Bauer, so Trey McBride, or any receiver. For me,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: some of the guys that I like this week are
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: mid tier wide receivers. I love Lad McConkie. I mentioned
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: I love DK metcalf this week. I love Terry McLaurin.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: This week. I know there's somebody I'm forgetting right now.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: I love let's see, oh man, who was it? There
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: was one another? But regardless, I want to flip the build,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: as you have alluded to a lot. So my leverage
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: lane is going against the grain and saying as people
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: move off of these stud running backs and they go
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: to Jordan Mason, they go to Kenneth Walker.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: Something that you have talked about for years. I've watched
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: you and Pat for years, and one of the things
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: you say all the time is sometimes it's not play
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: the guy or play the pivot, it's play both. Well,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: in this case, I'm going to play both. Christian McCaffrey
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: and Bjeon Robinson have a very very unique structured lineup
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: where I'm getting almost all of my salary savings from
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: my pass catchers, primarily my wide receivers, because I think
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of upside in that range for a
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: lot of these receivers. I just remember the other guy,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Darnel Mooney is the other one that I really like.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: I think that j. C. Horn has been phenomenal this year,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: and so production and passing game against Carolina has had
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: to come elsewhere other than wide receiver ones. Also, I
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: think Atlanta's going to run the ball really well. If
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: I have Bjeon Robinson and Darnell Mooney, I know it's
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: a combination of other people aren't going to have. I
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: think they're both phenomenal McCaffrey, Bjeon Robinson save money at
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: wide receivers. That's my levers one.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get too because I'm sticking to my original,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: but I'm going to add a curve ball to it.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: But you know, again, you can play them both together.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: It's just how you mix them up. That's kind of
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: the key, and I love what you said there. The
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: other thing is people get That's why we want to
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: focus on this type of stuff, is people do get
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: paralysis by analysis, information overload. It's extremely popular because what
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: ends up happening is every show is game by game,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: every show is positioned by position. We take part in
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: those two we're involved in that. But it's saying that
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: this is a way we can do something that's our
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: passion and we can still step outside and be able
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: to talk about this stuff. It's everything you talk about
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: in your discord, it's everything you talk about at FTN,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: It's all the stuff we talk about at Ship a Nation.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: We want to teach you how to play, not just
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: who to play, and that's what this comes down to.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: So the one that I started with that I'm gonna
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: stick to it because we didn't get enough to him,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: and I know that the slightest changed a little bit,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: But I think one of the biggest things that anybody
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: who watched me this morning probably heard this already, but
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with this is you see so many
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: people that say this guy sucks because he didn't do
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: anything for two weeks and then they won't play him
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: in week three. But it's hilarious to me that you
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: also hear it the other way. This guy played so
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: good in week one and two. He's horrible. There's no
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: way he can do it again. And we just talked
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: about Jonathan Taylor and I'm going back, as my boy
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Hoop coined him, Danny Dollars. I'm gonna go back to
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Danny Dollars and I'm gonna wait on listen. The warrant
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: information is important, but guess what that might tighten the
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: tree even more, or it might be able to make
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: it even more unique. Pittman downs, I'm gonna be stacking
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: it up and looking at it from that perspective. I'm
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: not again for single entry. It's who am I gonna
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: end up in there? I don't know, but Daniel Jones
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: and then putting something in with it. But I will
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: say this, don't count this part of it out. The curveball.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: You talked about the receiving role. Sometimes it's doing the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: combination and I can play Daniel Jones Jonathan Taylor, and
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: I could just stop there right or add in one
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: of Pittman or downs or whatever I end up on
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: depending on the war news. That's why the injury stuff matters.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Were gonna wait till we get closer sometimes. But my
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: takeaway is if you got Danny Jones and Jonathan Taylor together,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: that's the curveball. You end up with what the whole
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: end zone, red zone everything, Like, yes, you can pass
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: the ball, but that's two guys that could just be
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: running in. They can each get a touchdown on the ground.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones can throw for more. You know, you can
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: see rushing one hundred yard bonus for Jonathan Taylor. So
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick in that spot. You don't need to
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: run it back. I like that little combo pack. And
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: then one thing that I just can't get out of
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: my head. You can add these pieces because it actually
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: goes with mixing some of our stuff is you could
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: have Bijon in there with somebody from Carolina I do
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: think there's a possibility that the First Division game between
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: Atlanta Carolina. I know a lot of people like Atlanta
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: for Survivors and things like that, but Bryce Young has
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: shown signs at times right now, of course, but we've
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: seen him win Millionmaker lineups or be involved in the
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: satellite winning lineups. I know Mayo want a trip to
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: the King of the Desert or King of the Beach
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: one time with them back in the day our rip
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: to King of the Beach, but yeah, we've seen this.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: I think the Atlanta Carolina game is another angle where
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be really right or really wrong. But I
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: think that's something I would consider as well. You could
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: certainly squeeze it into your single entry lineup with your
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: bijon my Jonathan Taylor could be Daniel Jones with that.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: So I'm sticking with the Daniel Jones stacks some if
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: you if it involves Jonathan Taylor, so be it. But
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: I think Atlanta Carolina is another really interesting lane to
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: travel down for this late.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: Ajterrell is also out for Atlanta. Really good cornerback, so
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: tat McMillan. Atlanta was one of the worst defenses, are
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: one of the best matchups for wide receiver ones last year.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite things that we do at FTN.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: We have dvaway adjusted fantasy points against and it's not
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: just by position. In terms of wide receiver. We have
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: wide receiver one, wide receiver two, and all the other
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: wide receivers.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Split that way.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Atlanta was one of the best matchups last year for
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: wide receiver ones. Now no Tarell for Atlanta, so this
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: could be a really really good spot for Ted McMillan.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: I like that call a lot, and I want to
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: add one more thing to that. This is where it
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: came from. And you know we're going on a lot today.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: It's a first one. I want to spend some time,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: has some fun with it, and you know, make sure
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: we're giving some really good concepts out. This is a
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: bit of a flip as well, Alex. It's different because
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: it's running back wide receiver versus wide receiver running back people.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: That's the same. No, the price wise I'm talking about.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: But TET is fifty nine hundred. We already talked that
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: this is probably already baked in. You got Bijon and tent,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: but Bijon is seventy nine Tet is fifty nine. If
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: you think about Lamb is eighty one, and then you
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: look at it from the other side of like, whoever
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: that other spot is if you're using around fifty nine hundred, like,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: look at it from this Rome is fifty three. Yeah,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: but I was gonna say this, Actually, if you've got
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Mason and we know he's that's another one. So another cup.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: Don't people forget just Roman Lamb. That is the combo
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: of the week. We've talked about that, but Mason ends
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: up in a lot of those. Mason is fifty nine
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: at running back, Lamb is eighty one or eight, I
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: can't remember, at wide receiver. If you instead have Bijeon
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: at seventy nine and running back and TET at fifty
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: nine and do something like that, again, you can still
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: mix other pieces in, but I'm always looking at it
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: from different perspectives, and I think that would be another
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: popular way that people are going that you could flip
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: the build on and do something like that. It's a
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: secondary that TET was super popular at similar price tags
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: as much Cheat a little bit cheaper, but fifty two
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: verse fifty nine that much different, not that much different Bijeon.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: We already talked about he could be the guy that
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: moon walks back a little bit. Shout up to our
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: guy James, our big guy in the sky. If you
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: think about it from that perspective, there is a possibility
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: that becomes a good secondary stack as well. So lots
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: of different ways that you can go. But I hope
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: we gave some good ideas on how you can put
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: it all together. And like Alex said, you guys have
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: your own lane, you've got your own lineups, you've got
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: your own everything that you can sort of roll through
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: and tie all this together. But don't just play what
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: we say or what we land on. Play what you
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: want to play. But now hopefully you can play it
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: in a way that makes more sense, and hopefully play
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: it in a way to have yourself a day, find
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: your way at the top of the leaderboards and make
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: some money. So Alex final thoughts, man, let the people
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: know where they can find you. Everything else you've got
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: going on, and you've got a ton of cool stuff
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: that you're working on right now. But let's do it. Man.
• 1:09:32
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• 1:10:30
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  Speaker 1: on x Alex. Awesome time man, fun breaking this down.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great show moving forward. Thank you
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: guys for watching for Alex. For myself, Totagg and tambo
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: led ship it