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Yoreh Deah 134:3-11. Wine: Mixtures of Non-Kosher Wine · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  OK, we're starting Koflama Dalid, see if Gilmo again, yayin
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  NASA. OK, Mayim Shinidaru Bhayin or
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  yayin bin Mayim, see if you're going to mix water, I believe
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  any liquid, but let's let's read it inside.
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  You're going to mix water with wine or wine with water.
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  OK, For the laws of bits, it doesn't matter if it's water
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  that we'll get to you later, but the general issue of mixtures.
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  So then it either way, it's been notain Tam.
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  It goes by notain Tam. If it's batal bishim, it's
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  mutter batal binotain Tam, batal batam, then it's mutter.
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  Why bipnay shaheim mean bishay no mino?
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  Because wine with water is mean bishay no mino.
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  It's two different, two different foods.
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  OK, Bahmed varim doesn't have any gaming flavor.
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  It's only OK, let's let's keep lying.
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  Bahmed varim, Shenafa lamashke hamuter latak hamashke haaser.
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  Now, first of all, we're talking about if what a liquid, a mutter
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  liquid falls into a liquid. That's iser aval.
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  It's going to be even more make when we keep reading Aval Inafa
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  hamash ke asar little hamash ke ham mutter.
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  If you're going to have isser being poured into right, you're
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  going to have isser wine Stam, you know isser that's being
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  poured into a mutter drink. So then even though it's not
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  butter but bashishim, if even if it's not batal batam, it's still
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  mutter why we say rishon rishon batal as it pours in, it
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  initially gets batal right away, right?
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  It's not exactly Tata Gavar. It's more by heating.
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  But it's a similar concept. You first falls in and it
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  becomes batal as it enters the who's Shiuri Kabitsiritsurkata.
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  And we learned this already. It's when you pouring out from a
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  a small pitcher, a pitcher, a small, a normal bottle.
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  Shahaya mehrik vieret mehat to mehat because it pours out
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  slowly, a small flow, right? It's a small flow.
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  Is that right? It's not an issue of speed.
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  It's not an issue of speed. It's an issue of it's not a huge
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  waterfall. It's a small flow.
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  OK, now the next line we're going to read the IM Nisrabe
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  Hamashke Haasa starting from here, VIM nisrabe.
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  Now, if you're pouring isser into heter and after you keep
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  pouring the bottle and now it's going to you add enough that
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  it's not going to be Batal bashishim anymore.
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  It's not going to be Batal Atam. You ended up you ended up
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  pouring a whole bottle and now you taste it.
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  Aachiyeshbuk daily Tain Tam OSA and now it's going to add flavor
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  it OSARS it. OK, so at first glance, I have
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  to tell you now, but you're going to see this in in the
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  Rama, in the nosecalium. He's being sold to himself.
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  It's a complete Stira. We'll have to answer it.
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  So it's not necessarily a Stira at all.
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  But at first glance, this he sold to himself first he said
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  it's Rishon, Rishon batal. Even if you taste it, it doesn't
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  matter. It's still mutter.
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  And then he says, but wait, then if you taste it, it's us.
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  So what is it? So the it's clearly that the
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  Shokhanar holds Rishon Rishon is batal and it's not kozer veneer.
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  It's doesn't as you start pouring the whole bottle, now
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  all of a sudden you realize, whoa, I taste it.
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  Now it becomes aser. The Shokanar doesn't hold of
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  that and he holds well, it depends.
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  So the the the Shah and the Gras basically are saying the same
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  thing that the Shokanar holds that the Imnis rabe.
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  It's a new opinion. The Shah says you should add the
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  words VA shomri 'cause it's a new opinion that the Sholkhanar
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  does not hold of and the Sholkhanar and the Gras, both
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  Pascal and the Halafa, that it's mother and the room.
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  We're going to see the Rama and the Shah Paskhan like this.
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  Yeh shomrim. That's kozer veneer and it's
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  asser. OK, the the bear Haitiev quoting
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  the Bach says this extra line. It sounds like it's a Stira.
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  So he they explain why how the shalkhanarks is not sold to
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  himself. Either he should have put the a
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  Shalmarim that we saw or they say it's referring to when you
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  pour out of a large barrel and you have a huge like we saw
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  already yesterday. OK, let's keep reading the Hehu
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  Hamayam assuriyam. How in the world do you get
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  water? That's user.
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  So the shalkhanar tells you could go on Shahaya Nevadium or
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  Takravasa Varezara because it's could be there.
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  It's it was served for a what is or is brought as or for a vada
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  Zara. OK, fine, let's go on Ruma haga
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  dovar of Ubikan soltrem Zed Zed, this is Astira.
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  We've just explained the kata of the Ibn Nafala Mashkas, the
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  Hatter rishon rishon batal. You just told me it's mutter
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  even if you could taste it, and then it becomes aser.
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  So which one is it? So who?
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  Mahloka has been a post game. That's a Mahloka.
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  Vishonim Ulein Dina. The Rama holds the halacha is
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  Vara akrona ikara that we say khoser Vinayor.
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  What are you saying by the shock?
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  The Yeah, the shock is saying correct.
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  Correct. Correct.
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  Dalit. OK, let's receive Dalit Borschel
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  yin shenafala toko ketone shalmayim tequila.
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  So now there's a reisha nessafa. There's two parts to deceive.
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  So the first case is we're dealing with Yin nessa, which is
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  asar de araisa, and the second-half he's dealing with
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  Stam yainam, which is an Issa darabanan.
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  So we're going to see the halacha in the first half is a
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  little bit different than the halacha in the second-half.
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  This one is so one's Derabannon. This is actually really one case
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  in the Gemara with two Lochonos, Hadapaskan, and it's a Mahoka
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  Rishonim. But the the Shokhanarat
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  basically is Mahalik between the two Lochonos and the Rishonim.
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  And he goes a little bit more machmur when it's Derisa, a
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  little more Mako when it's Derabannon.
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  Because the first half is yenessa, the second-half is Stam
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  yenon. OK, let's read it again.
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  So you have a pit of that, of wine, kosher wine, and then you
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  pour in some water. Let's say a gallon of water
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  pours in. It's going to help you a little
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  bit for better reasons. We'll see.
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  And then comes Yeh Nessa and falls in.
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  So you first have the water, then you have the Yeh Nessa.
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  If the water's afterwards, you're going to see it's a
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  different halacha. So rowing at Yaya Nahete kilo
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  Eno, if you first started out with kosher wine and then water.
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  So then you can conceptually remove, eliminate the kosher
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  wine for our purposes of bittle. And then we have Mayim shenaflo
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  misharin amesh bahenke de Lovato Tam Otto Ye Nessa.
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  So you only need enough water to be Mavato, the flavour of the Ye
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  Nessa. You don't have to.
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  You don't need enough water to be Mavato, the Yeh Nessa plus
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  the Yeh Mutter together. You only you need less.
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  You only need enough water to be Mavato Yeh Nessa.
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  You conceptually pretend there's no Yeh Yain over there for
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  flavouring Huraya maim Rabbi Mallabu Mavakli motto.
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  So you can just have enough water to mavato the Yeh Nessa,
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  the Yacol Mutter and every you'll have to drink the whole
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  thing. The IMS tamyenam.
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  This is the second. But if it's tamyenam.
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  But here in the first case, if the water came after the Yeh
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  Nessa poured in, then you need enough water to mvatal the
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  mixture of all the wine together.
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  But here the IMS tamyenam MIT Arabia in Shahatar.
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  But if it's stamyenam that mixes with yayin Shahatar again
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  stamyenam is asar behanah, but it's only midrabanam.
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  I feel alone if I'll talk a quiton shamayim a little of a
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  self and then the water gets added at the end doesn't matter
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  before at the beginning or at the end.
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  It makes no difference. Then you need all you need is
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  enough water to be mavato the US or wine and you don't have to.
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  You don't You don't calculate in the mutter wine and then if it's
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  Mavato it, then the whole thing is mutter.
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  OK, Next let's go to hey comma yeheyba mayim.
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  How much water do you need for yeheybahim?
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  Khedela vatal TA amhayim. So you don't need shishim if
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  you're going to need the vatal water to wine.
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  So the shock points out it's only a din by water, not by by
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  by other things. You need shishim by water.
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  It works to have what we're about to say, but not wine and
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  not any tafshil shamashpiko. Any good flavors?
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  Good then. Then you'd for sure need shishi.
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  OK so let's keep reading. How much do you need?
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  It's shisha Khalakin Kenegdo you need 6 parts connected?
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  The one part wine, the koshisha, mamaya and kashira.
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  Is that as long as you have enough water, that's that's six
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  parts water. So then mutter everything
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  becomes mutter because the water the wine is is completely.
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  But though it's not like it's not wine anymore.
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  I feel a bishtiya. You can even drink it.
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  The ENE Avamain Kashir Hazeh. Now, if you don't have enough
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  water, enough water to be Mavato, the yayin.
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  So then what do you do if you have a little bit of of yayin?
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  That's aser. So we're going to see generally
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  we're talking about Stam yenam over here.
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  We'll keep it simple. This halacha, you can see the
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  Shah, but let's keep it simple. This halacha refers to Stam
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  yenam because if it's mamash yeh nessakh and it's not batal, then
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  it could be that it's aser bakosuhu and you can't do this
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  trick. This we learned just recently,
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  one or two days ago again. So you may remind Kashir as
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  mokhar hakola goemkhutzmidime yayin.
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  I have yayin nessak shabo, but I think it's supposed to be Stam
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  yayinam shabo, see the Shah. OK, so then what do you do?
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  So then even though the whole thing is aser Bahana, it's only
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  the part that's yayin Stam, that's aser Bahana.
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  So you can sell the whole thing minus the amount of of value of
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  that yin Stam, and then you either throw that away or don't
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  collect it. We learned that before meow loim
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  cor lagui Harbiya. But right the the shock just
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  points out again, he always points this out that we're only
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  allowing you to sell this the case when it's Malcolm or
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  vehicle to call to call it Mutter Behana.
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  If it's the Makkom have said so that's why he says you're
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  supposed to sell part of it like Athila, because really nowadays
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  the the Rama holds you never have wine.
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  That's asar Behana. OK, but that's the Makkom have
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  said. If you can easily recoup your
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  losses and sell it, then that's what you're supposed to do.
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  Meal loyum korla goyum harbe biajat.
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  You shouldn't sell want kit. Really what he's about to just
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  say is never sell an item to a non Jew.
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  That that non Jew will now sell to a Jew and the Jew will think
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  it's kosher. So if you nowadays it's not so
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  relevant because we we're trained never to buy something
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  with a hashkatha. Yeah, for anything.
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  For anything so here let's read it inside meal William Kurla
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  Guayam Harebiachad don't sell a lot of this wine together that
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  has some mixed in isser. So therefore it's aser without,
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  you know, removing part of it. The humkora mainly sell because
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  then the Jew, the non Jew is going to sell it to a Jew and
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  the Jew won't know that there's a mixture of isser in here who
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  Hadin Bakoda varhadasar Bamashu. Anytime you have something
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  that's aser Bamashu because of the mashu, the nikah Mina goem
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  dinahaki, and then it's it's then you want to sell it to a
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  goy. It's the same Allah because the
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  Jew won't know that there's a little mixture in there and you
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  won't know to take that out. So I am not an yayin vekalium
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  asurim mahmat yein nessa quetzen macharia Mavado.
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  OK, sorry. Let's just let's we're going to
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  get there soon. OK, Let's go to Vav.
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  OK, the comets, Shalgoim shanafalotoc yayin shalhatter.
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  So wine vinegar is a problem because before it became vinegar
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  it was wine and stamyenam is aser.
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  OK? So generally speaking, all wine
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  vinegar from Magoy is going to be aser without a proper ashkafa
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  because that it was made without going around because it be it's.
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  So let's read. So now if you add hommets of
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  goyim into kosher wine, oh yain shal goyim shinafal with hommets
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  shalhad there either 1 was kosher, one was not vinegar with
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  wine. So then the Allaha is benotein
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  ta'am because it's mean bisheno mino and therefore it's about al
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  beshishi, OK? If it's a time leaf gum, so then
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  you don't need Shi Shi, but we're going to get to we're
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  going to see that again with some a few examples as we go on
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  cut yeah, no Zion right now. The the shock just points out.
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  Also, we go after the shame. So even it has it, even if it
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  were to have the same flavour, comets is called comets and
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  yayin is called yayin. So therefore it has a different
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  name. And that's also if it's even if
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  it has the same flavour, we're still say it's it's batal
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  bashishim. You go by the the name and then
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  there are mas as nowadays we always go by shishim.
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  OK, I mean, that was the Shah. OK, let's go on to yayin shil
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  goem Ben Yashan Ben Khadash. OK, so now you have wine,
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  freshly made wine. If you want to call it wine,
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  it's or grape juice. Basically.
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  Yashan is it now it has tastes like wine.
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  It's been fermented and fresh. It's fresh wine or fresh grape
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  juice that's just been squeezed out of the grapes, Shenafa al
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  anavim. So now they spill on grapes.
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  So basically the question is what do you do with the grapes?
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  OK, we're talking about Stam yenam, can you drink the grapes?
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  So we're going to see that has a din of it's two separate items,
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  Mimbish E domino. So therefore how does that play
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  out? IM Hashem schlemot if the grapes
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  are whole. So no problem, you just, you
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  just rinse them out. There's schlemem on the vine.
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  You just rinse them out, the hemutarot Bahila and then it's
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  all you do is rinse it under the sink. 100% what Bhim hem
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  muvukhod or shanitaal uksan. But what if they're split?
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  They're cracked, they're slit or you pluck them off the not, I
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  don't know if the word is correct or the stem, you pluck
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  it off the stem and therefore you have that little hole on the
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  top, a little bit of an opening. So then the where are we?
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  Neither English, but noting Tam, Asurot Bahila.
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  If it's then it can enter the grape a little bit the flavor.
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  So if it's noting Tam, it's asur, Vyatzaram, Vyinkaram,
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  Lagoya, Hutzman, de Meyen, Nasser, Shabahim.
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  Now most of the grape was mutter, but you have a Tam in
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  there, that's asur. So if the Tam goes in there and
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  you can't get it out, So what do you do?
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  You sell the whole grape and then from your profit or from
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  the the sell that whatever you get for it, the you remove.
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  It's obviously going to be insignificant, but it's
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  something a very small amount. That amount you throw away the
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  the value of the wine that how much wine got poured in there.
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  Aval Loyim Karim Komoshen don't sell the grapes the way they are
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  to a non Jew. Shamma yaksa reem kremli sell
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  because the non Jew might sell them to a Jew and then the Jew
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  won't know that he has to, he can't eat it.
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  The Eames. It's not saying Tam, but if
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  there's going to be no flavour, OK.
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  I don't know exactly the maisa how this plays out, if there is
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  a flavour or not. But if there is no flavour in
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  there, then I'll then it's not a problem.
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  You rinsed it out. There's no flavor in there.
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  And it's mutter B Aquila, Right. So if you want to sell it, you
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  have to turn them, turn all the grapes into wine.
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  In the case of selling it without having an issue again, I
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  don't know if usually, well, it can end up in the marketplace.
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  Yeah. So you would have to take these
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  grapes and turn it into wine and then sell the wine.
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  That's the that's the way to solve the problem.
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  OK, let's go to tet. Yayin shogoim should not fall
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  algabe to enyum mutarian. If wine fall of Stam yayinam
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  falls onto your your figs, it's mutter even if it's not chichi,
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  even if it's theoretically noting Tam mutanesia yayin
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  pogemut tamatanium. Because wine objectively gives
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  bad flavor to the figs. It's not the flavor you're
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  looking for when you when you surf figs when you said stuns,
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  yeah, NASA or stuns, but a ship that came in with thousands of
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  times thousands, right, right. So the right, so the stuns.
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  OK, so you'd. Nafal al adashim usaorium what
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  if wine of goyim they fall on lentils or barley?
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  Koyoche Behem, all you have to do, they're closed.
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  All you have to do is rinse them off Behem mutarium and then you
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  can eat them. You can make your bread out of
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  them, cook them. But if they were soaking on them
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  for a long time, vandai Bala oh, for sure, it got absorbed and
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  the taz holds. It's almost this Zaman raav is
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  almost immediate and the Shah doesn't understand where he gets
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  it from because that's not Zaman raav and he holds.
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  It's 8 to 8. It has to be for it to be called
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  Zaman raav. It has to be 24 hours, OK, the
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  ayn hector. And there's no way to rinse it
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  out because once it goes in, it doesn't come out.
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  Well, Meshari mutam benote intam So it needs to be batal
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  bashishim and then it's mutter otherwise it's not OK.
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  You'd olive now fall Gabe Kitim. What if they fall on weak
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  kernels? Ella Ham header so they never
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  have a header when you rinse them off.
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  Of course, unless it's battle bashishi.
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  Why Mutanisha Mutoxia Ishbaham said that they naturally
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  automatically, they all come with little crack in them.
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  And the wine, if it got poured on them will go in through
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  inside and you can't get it out. So if it's not Tain Tam, it's
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  Asur villain Karam Lagoy and don't sell you have this bag of
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  kernels that wine spilled on it. You can't sell these these wheat
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  kernels to the goy because it's asur and he's going to sell it
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  to a Jew. Show me yaks or Rheem Karami
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  Israel. You might sell it to jewel
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  allocates at OSA. What do you do?
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  We had this by the wine Tokhe no Tam OSA mehem pat grind them
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  down, turn it into flour, bake it into bread.
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  Mokra lagoi Shalobifeni Israel. And then you sell the bread to A
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  to a goi and you're going to he's going to say and you
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  diminish. You take away the profit, the
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  money that you make from the from the little bit of wine that
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  goes in there. In other words, you can get, you
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  can sell it for almost full price or you sell it for full
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  price and almost keep all the money, but not in front of not
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  in front of the Jew. But IME Hubei Malcolm, because
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  then the Jew will think it's kosher and buy it from him.
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  The IM Hubei Malcolm Shinagu laho pad goyim ainlo takana.
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  And if you live, and if you live in a place where everyone buys
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  from the non kosher bakery or non kosher juice, sorry, non non
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  juice or non Jewish bakery. So then you have no takana
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  because a Jew is going to buy from him.
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  And nowadays we don't, we don't do that.
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  So it's not a problem. Hagar mokram lagoim, queim de
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  pruso chaos. And So what do you do?
• 23:19
  You sell them as slices because no Jew is going to buy even if
• 23:23
  you buy whole bread from the from a non Jew, you're not going
• 23:26
  to buy slices from a non Jew. OK, whatever.
• 23:28
  It depends on the let's see us. OK, maybe stop here and then.