Latest / The SmallBizChat with Melinda Emerson / Business Success Mindset with Kirsten Franklin
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- 0:00Thanks to today's podcast sponsor, Amazon.
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- 0:18Because when small businesses thrive, customers benefit from the products and services they
- 0:23offer.
- 0:25You're bringing it.
- 0:26You're responsible for it.
- 0:27You're either responsible for attracting it, keeping it, or consistently getting that
- 0:30result.
- 0:31People wanna think that there's this happy end result, this destination, this place that
- 0:34they're gonna achieve, and they're gonna have this amazing mindset.
- 0:36No.
- 0:37I mean, you know, we're always working on it.
- 0:39There's always the next level.
- 0:40It's never done.
- 0:41But if you look around, again, at your reality, you don't like something.
- 0:44Something's pissing you off.
- 0:45You don't have great relationships.
- 0:46Your business isn't going where you want it to.
- 0:49Mindset, you, thoughts.
- 0:51Done.
- 0:52Left off.
- 0:54Ending small business failure.
- 0:56Welcome to the Small Biz Chat podcast with a number 1 small business expert, Melinda
- 1:02Emerson.
- 1:03Melinda's goal is to and small business failure, and she'll give you the information
- 1:07you need to succeed and live the life you dream of.
- 1:11Now, here's the small biz lady herself.
- 1:15Melinda Emerson.
- 1:17Hi, everybody.
- 1:17I'm Melinda Emerson's small bus lady.
- 1:20America's number one small business expert And I'm excited to welcome you to the small biz
- 1:25chat podcast I'm very excited about today's show.
- 1:30The mission of the smallbiz chat podcast is to end small business failure.
- 1:35We are
- 1:35a peer to peer interview show
- 1:35that gives small business owners a way to get invaluable business advice.
- 1:43So let me introduce my guest.
- 1:44She is what we call
- 1:44a recovering attorney, turned entrepreneur.
- 1:50Her name is Kirsten Franklin, and she's a life and business coach and founder.
- 1:55And she's also a coach who works with everyone from to professional athletes and small
- 2:01business owners.
- 2:01She's helped over 1000 individuals to Appbit's success.
- 2:09To learn more, log on to kirstenfranklin.com.
- 2:13Kirsten, welcome to the small business chat podcast.
- 2:16Hey, Melinda.
- 2:16Nice to be here.
- 2:17Thank you for having me.
- 2:18Oh, gosh.
- 2:19I'm excited to have this conversation, but first, I wanna know How does one go from being
- 2:24a recovering attorney to deciding to become a business coach?
- 2:27I I gotta hear this story.
- 2:29You know, it was one of those things where passion just met opportunity.
- 2:32So I have been all about psychology listening to Tony Robbins since, like, the nineties, and
- 2:38it was just my passion and, to, you know, really understand self development, psychology,
- 2:42behavioral science.
- 2:44And I took that into my practice as a lawyer, right, really kinda understanding what are
- 2:47people saying when they're not really saying it.
- 2:49How can I understand where they're coming from so I can understand what they're trying to
- 2:53convey, right, in depositions and trials?
- 2:56And when I left the of law and opened up a legal recruiting company where I was working
- 3:00with law partners, it just merged.
- 3:02Whatever our personal conversations ended up in, it resulted in better marriages.
- 3:07Kids loving their parents again, better business.
- 3:09And I realized, like, wait a second.
- 3:12There's a business opportunity I like it so much more than legal recruiting.
- 3:17I hear that.
- 3:18Well, you know, it's like, you gotta be careful what you wish for.
- 3:21Right?
- 3:21Because you just might get it.
- 3:22Like, you get your dream job and you're like, this ain't it.
- 3:25You know, that's what happened to me.
- 3:27So I get it.
- 3:28Tell me, how can our mindset affect our business success?
- 3:33Well, I'm gonna tell you that your mindset affects everything.
- 3:36If everyone listening just takes a look around at your reality, if there's something you don't
- 3:41like, I guarantee it's because you have a certain mindset that is producing that result.
- 3:47So if you are looking for business success, it's really about the language in your head,
- 3:52your definitions, how you're perceiving the world.
- 3:55It's all of that.
- 3:57So what is the difference between sort of like a growth mindset versus a fixed mindset?
- 4:04Yeah.
- 4:04So great question.
- 4:05You know, Carol DeWec really defined that.
- 4:07And just in simple terms, you know, if you wanna think of fixed mindset is, like, almost
- 4:11like you're genetically coded and say you're only gonna learn up to algebra, but you're
- 4:16never gonna learn trigonomics because it's just not possible.
- 4:19It's fixed.
- 4:20The most you'll ever gonna learn is algebra.
- 4:22That's a fixed mindset.
- 4:23You're never gonna be the business person even if you want to because it's not genetically
- 4:27coded into you.
- 4:28Right?
- 4:29Where growth mindset, it's just anything as as possible full.
- 4:32There's a limitlessness and and you can do whatever you want, and it's just a matter of
- 4:36having your mindset back you up and actually achieving that with your driving consistency.
- 4:41How important though is our skill of being able to reflect in terms of keeping a healthy
- 4:48mindset?
- 4:50It's extremely important.
- 4:51So I, you know, really go through a a 3 step process when it comes to mindset.
- 4:55And the very first thing is awareness.
- 4:58And for in order for you to really develop that awareness in order to effectuate change that
- 5:02you're looking to make, there's a lot of reflection why did I do that?
- 5:07Why did I think that what's going on here?
- 5:09Where was I coming from?
- 5:10And a lot of stepping back, you know, I I hate to sound like I'm sure a lot of people here
- 5:15have heard But a large majority of this is put into you before the age of seven.
- 5:21You know, they say how you're a little stunned, well, you're actually in a semih hypnotic
- 5:25state.
- 5:26What's not fair about that is you have no frame of reference.
- 5:29Right?
- 5:29How do you know if this is good or bad or, you know, a perfect example.
- 5:33Kids of divorced parents they felt that their infiniteness wasn't good enough because they
- 5:37couldn't fix a relationship, but that's a perception based at an age where they think
- 5:41they can fix everything that they're all powerful beings.
- 5:44Right?
- 5:44They don't know yet that these 2 adults have their own issues.
- 5:48Right?
- 5:49But that goes with them for the rest of their lives.
- 5:51And that affects how they see the world and interpret the data from that point forward.
- 5:55Well, how do
- 5:55we know if we have mindset is Right?
- 6:01Is it just like is it like I look at my bank account?
- 6:04And I see my bank account.
- 6:05Is that what I want it to be?
- 6:06So I must have a mindset issue about money.
- 6:08Like, like, literally, is it that or, like, how do I know if I'm the problem?
- 6:12How do I know?
- 6:14We're always the problem.
- 6:15You are the only common denominator in your reality.
- 6:18So if there is something that you don't like, Girl, you're bringing it.
- 6:22You're bringing it.
- 6:22You're responsible for it.
- 6:23You're either responsible for attracting it, keeping it, or consistently getting that
- 6:26result.
- 6:27Period.
- 6:27Done.
- 6:28People wanna think that there's this happy end result, this destination, this place that
- 6:31they're gonna achieve, and they're gonna have this amazing mindset.
- 6:34No.
- 6:34I mean, you know, we're always working on it.
- 6:36There's always the level.
- 6:37It's never done.
- 6:38But if you look around, again, at your reality, you don't like something.
- 6:41Something's pissing you off.
- 6:42You don't have great relationships.
- 6:44Your business isn't going where you want it to.
- 6:46Mindset.
- 6:47You, thoughts.
- 6:48Done.
- 6:49Okay.
- 6:49So all these ding back weirdos and manboys that I keep dating, you're saying that is me.
- 6:53Like, it's not, like, like, hot
- 6:55Yes.
- 6:56Okay, girl.
- 6:56Let's break that down.
- 6:58Let's break that down.
- 7:00Yes.
- 7:01No.
- 7:01Let's not.
- 7:02I just I just wanted to say, like, Yes.
- 7:08It's me.
- 7:09Okay.
- 7:09Alright.
- 7:10But let let's get this back to business.
- 7:11I wanna So how do you say, like, is it important to integrate the word yet when you're
- 7:17trying to change your own mindset?
- 7:22Or, like, how does your vocabulary affect?
- 7:26Because I I know, like, for years, I've heard, you know, we have to watch our self talk.
- 7:30You know, because we are so hard on ourselves.
- 7:33Right?
- 7:33You're so stupid.
- 7:34How could you make that decision?
- 7:35You know, we do all this bad stuff to ourselves.
- 7:38But there how do we make that shift?
- 7:41And and is there words are there power words we need to start using to fix some of that.
- 7:48Yeah.
- 7:48So I love love love this question.
- 7:50So 1st and foremost, your words are absolutely important.
- 7:54Your self talk is everything.
- 7:56And in fact, that's reflective of your mindset, which comes into the being aware.
- 8:00The best part about mindset is I get this all the time.
- 8:04I know what I think.
- 8:05I'm amazing.
- 8:06I like, I'm gonna totally rock this business.
- 8:08And, really, that's funny.
- 8:08You failed fifteen times while you're paying me $50,000 to talk to me.
- 8:12You you obviously know something's up.
- 8:14The reality is is we don't always know what we're saying.
- 8:17And here's the truth.
- 8:19You cannot have an emotion without first having a thought.
- 8:22It's so automated that sometimes we don't know what that thought is.
- 8:25You ever just go through your day at the end of the day.
- 8:27You're like, oh, yeah.
- 8:28Whatever.
- 8:28I'm alright.
- 8:29Kinda don't know why you're feeling law.
- 8:31Well, because the language in your head is causing you to feel that way.
- 8:34So that is why awareness is key, and that is why language is important.
- 8:39And first of all, what you say is an indicative of what you're truly thinking, even if you're
- 8:44saying it in just, okay, just just be aware of that because a lot of times, especially for
- 8:48women, we'll say in that kind of negativity, jokey kind of way, like, I'm such an idiot.
- 8:53I made that left turn again.
- 8:55But what you're really saying is, damn, I made that left turn again.
- 8:58Like, what's wrong with me?
- 8:59But you think you're saying it in this light funny way, but, no, it's indicative of what
- 9:02you're really thinking.
- 9:03So your language matters.
- 9:05And really, basically, you know, if anybody hasn't heard of this, there's the thing called
- 9:09reframing.
- 9:10So if you are aware, of what you're saying, you can write that down and then really think about
- 9:16how you would like to restate that in the positive.
- 9:19Right?
- 9:20And you just can drill that in.
- 9:22I've done this when I was, you know, walking my daughter to school.
- 9:25All you ever wanted to do, be that mom, walk her to school, drop her off, pick her up.
- 9:29Got super, super, like, aggravated at one point.
- 9:32Like, oh my god.
- 9:32I can't believe I have to do this.
- 9:34If I didn't have to walk you to school, I'd be at this meeting.
- 9:36I'd be, like, at the half $1,000,000 deal.
- 9:37Like, what am I doing?
- 9:38Right?
- 9:39All because of the language in my head, but I changed it to, I get to.
- 9:42And I had to shove that down my throat every second.
- 9:42At the a second of crap event.
- 9:47Oh my god.
- 9:47I get to.
- 9:48I get to.
- 9:48And what I really do is feel it.
- 9:49Like, actually, I get to.
- 9:51I'm alive.
- 9:52I have the ability, the money, the time, That deal doesn't really matter in the bigger
- 9:57picture.
- 9:57And I I get to.
- 9:58I get to.
- 9:58All of a sudden, even to this day, that was when my daughter was four years old.
- 10:02My daughter's now thirteen.
- 10:04Morning walks, morning trips to school and back, best time ever.
- 10:07Love it.
- 10:08Love it.
- 10:08I I think that's really, that's really important.
- 10:11So when we think about this, you know, how can we embrace our failures to boost our mindset?
- 10:22Because I do think we have to own failures.
- 10:24Right?
- 10:24We can't pretend like failures didn't happen.
- 10:28Yeah.
- 10:29Yeah.
- 10:29Yeah.
- 10:29So first of all, failure.
- 10:32It's like language.
- 10:33How are you defining that?
- 10:34Why is it so impactful?
- 10:36Why is it so painful?
- 10:37If you're trying to avoid the word failure or feel like a quote failure.
- 10:40Right?
- 10:40It's again a reframing of the mindset that definition, the story that you tell yourself
- 10:48around the word failure.
- 10:50Right?
- 10:50When you reframe that and you're like, no.
- 10:52I failed again.
- 10:53This is awesome.
- 10:54Look what I learned.
- 10:56Right?
- 10:56It's a reframing.
- 10:58You know?
- 10:58And and when you can reframe that, you can really see it for what it is.
- 11:03It's an action that got a result.
- 11:05Did it get the result that you were hoping you would get?
- 11:07No.
- 11:08But what did you learn from it?
- 11:10And move on.
- 11:12Love it.
- 11:12Love it.
- 11:13This is so interesting and impactful.
- 11:17Tell me something What is the best business advice you've ever been given?
- 11:23Oh, man.
- 11:24Don't take things so seriously.
- 11:26Can you imagine Here I am this competitive cheerleader equestrian athlete, you know,
- 11:32building businesses, and I was determine that it was gonna go down this way.
- 11:37It's gonna look this way.
- 11:38It's gonna have this result.
- 11:39I know for a fact if I engage in X Y Z consistently, persistently, I'm gonna get this
- 11:43result.
- 11:44And when it didn't happen, the failure, I had a mentor that was like, no, dude.
- 11:49Let go.
- 11:49Like, it's it's always a SHIT show.
- 11:53It's never gonna be what you think it is.
- 11:55Let go of it.
- 11:56Relax.
- 11:56You know, yes, you still have to be consistent.
- 11:58Yes, you still have to be driven, but don't hold so tight on the result you have to get,
- 12:04right, be a little bit more fluid, let go.
- 12:06Well, and I think that's indicative of entrepreneurship anyway.
- 12:09Like, you gotta be flexible.
- 12:11You can't come up with your idea for your customers because both of those things can
- 12:15lead.
- 12:15Right?
- 12:15So you gotta make sure that Data.
- 12:18Grow with the punches, and you're supposed to grow.
- 12:21Right?
- 12:21You have to grow yourself to grow your business.
- 12:24Kirsten, thank you so much for being here.
- 12:26That is so, so helpful.
- 12:28Alright, Kirsten.
- 12:29What's your favorite podcast?
- 12:31Life on Fire podcast.
- 12:35That's a good one.
- 12:35That's a very good one.
- 12:38Alright.
- 12:39Kirsten, what's your favorite business at?
- 12:41Alright.
- 12:41I'm gonna it's a CRM and it's an app.
- 12:43I'm gonna say HubSpot.
- 12:44HubSpot, the whole suite marketing and everything.
- 12:47Alright.
- 12:48Alright.
- 12:48Favorite old school marketing tip.
- 12:51I don't even know.
- 12:52Okay.
- 12:53Old school marketing tip.
- 12:55Subject lines.
- 12:56How important subject lines are?
- 12:57Subject lines.
- 12:57Very important email marketing.
- 12:57Subject lines.
- 12:57Very
- 13:02important.
- 13:03Kirsten, what's your favorite business book?
- 13:05Alright.
- 13:05You guys are gonna hate me since I play in a little bit of a more founder space, but this
- 13:09book called deal terms.
- 13:11By Alex something.
- 13:12You got I don't know if you know how willdormig willd or something like that, but, if you need
- 13:16to know the basics of notes, negotiations, venture Capital Angel, you know, all that, deal
- 13:22terms is a is a good one.
- 13:25Alright, everybody.
- 13:26Thank you so much for joining me.
- 13:28The mission of the Small Bishop podcast is to end small business failure.
- 13:33And I wanna leave you with this.
- 13:34You never lose in business.
- 13:36Either you win or you learn.
- 13:39Happy holidays, everybody.
- 13:41Thank you for listening to the Small Biz Chat podcast with Melinda Emerson.
- 13:46For more resources and small business success strategies, visit succeed as your own boss.com.
- 13:53Subscribe to this podcast wherever you listen to podcasts and join us next Wednesday.