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Biolabs, biowarfare, and the making of the next pandemic · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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Hard-hitting medical truth, cutting through conflict and confusion to the understanding you're searching for.
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Join Dr.
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Peter McCullough, world-renowned medical expert and practicing physician for this edition of the McCullough Report.
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Your life may depend on it.
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Let's get real.
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Let's get loud on America Loud Talk Radio.
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This is a McCullough Report.
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And I'm Dr.
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Peter McCullough.
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I'm going to give you a summary of U.S.
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biolabs working on pathogens of dual pandemic potential.
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This is a big deal.
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And I can tell you that our next big pandemic could occur from a lab right here in the United States.
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Coming into power, they have done little or nothing to protect Americans against these threats.
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Now, dual pandemic potential refers to biological agents and research programs that involve pathogens capable of causing a pandemic and preventing one, depending on how the knowledge or technology is used.
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These programs sit at the intersection of pandemic preparedness and biosecurity risk.
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The same research that can produce vaccines or antiviral measures can also inadvertently or deliberately create more virulent or transmissible versions of existing pathogens.
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In the United States, such work falls under a web of research categories called gain of function research, pathogen enhancement, research of concern, PERC, and dual use research of concern DERC, DURC, all of which have drawn heavy scrutiny due to their possible overlap with bioweapons capabilities.
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Here's some information about the structure of U.S.
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biodefense and pathogen research.
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These are the major institutions that are involved.
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The U.S.
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Biodefense Network spans dozens of federal military and laboratory and private laboratories.
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The most relevant players include the National Institutes of Health, particularly the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, previously run by Anthony Fauci.
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This body funds major dual use pathogen research under the banner of pandemic preparedness.
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The U.S.
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Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, USA, MRIID, located at Fort Dietrich, Maryland, responsible for high-level containment biosecurity level 4 experiments on Ebola, Marburg, Anthrax, and other potential bioweapon class pathogens.
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The Department of Homeland Security operates biolabs such as the National Bio and Agro Defense Facility, NBAF in Kansas, placing replacing the Plum Island Animal Disease Center.
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These labs handle zoonotic pathogens, animal to human transmission, like common origin for pandemics.
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And then the Centers for Disease Control operates BSL 4 labs in Atlanta that handles smallpox and highly infectious viruses.
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Private contractors and universities, including Eco Health Alliance, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, Boston University, University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, numerous pharmaceutical partners, these institutions often carry out federally funded research, but with far less transparency than governmental labs.
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So here are the categories of dual pathogen research.
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So gain of function studies, gain and function research involves modifying pathogens to increase transmissibility, virulence, or host range to study how pandemics might evolve naturally.
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Critics argue that such experiments create the very conditions for accidental pandemics.
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Example, modifying the avian influenza, H5N1 to become an airborne transmissible in humans.
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That was done at the USDA research center in Athens, Georgia.
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And to be uh clear, this is transmissible among uh among male or ducks and then on to mammals.
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Uh another example is engineering coronaviruses with modified spike proteins to increase infectivity done in Wuhan, China.
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Supporters claim these methods allow creation of preemptive vaccines.
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Detractors note that a single lab breach could unleash a pathogen far more dangerous than nature would ever produce.
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And that's exactly what happened with both uh bird flu and with COVID-19.
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Now, there's reverse vaccinology and synthetic pathogens.
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Advances in genetic engineering now allows scientists to create synthetic viruses, reconstructing extinct strains like smallpox relatives or designing completely new ones to test vaccine platforms.
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COVID-19 accelerated this field as messenger RNA technology allowed rapid prototyping, but it also demonstrated how dual use uh gene synthesis could be leveraged for malicious or unsafe gain of function work under the private or academic cover.
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Now, the biodefense simulations and challenge studies, human challenge trials where healthy volunteers are exposed to pathogens, often blur ethical boundaries, especially when strains are enhanced.
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The lesson from past biodefense simulations, such as the 2001 dark winter anthrax exercise is that preparedness often doubles as live lab work in the creation, testing, and containment of potential pandemic agents.
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Meaning we never really know if a pathogen is capable of creating a pathogen uh a pandemic until it gets out of the lab.
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Uh now there's some major research examples of dual pandemic potential.
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So clearly coronaviruses.
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Between 2014 and 2019, U.S.
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funded researchers conducted experiments combining bad coronaviruses with humanized cell receptors.
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The stated goal, explore pandemic potential and test vaccine design.
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This research was controversial, not only because of its biosafety mismatches, um, some done in BSL2 or BSL3 conditions where containment was insufficient, but also uh it went on during a federal moratorium on gain of function research.
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The problem wasn't simply location, several projects conducted through nonprofit intermediaries, outsourced parts of research to foreign labs, notably Wuhan Institute of Virology under the Eco Health Alliance, um, under underlining both uh globalization of biotech and weak oversight that could have been a national security risk.
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The other labs involved in the creation of the COVID-19 virus include Nursing North Carolina, Chapel Hill, Dr.
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Ralph Barrick, and the Rocky Mounted uh the Rocky Mountain uh NIH research laboratory in Hamilton in Montana under the direction of Anthony Fauci and his division.
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Another major example is Boston University's hybrid SARS-CoV-2 experiment in 2022.
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Researchers confined ancestral Omicron strains to create a chimeric virus, resulting in 80% lethality in infected rodents.
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NIH later stated it hadn't authorized such work.
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The university insisted it was routine, illustrating ongoing lack of clarity between definitions of gain of function and then P3CO, which is potential pandemic pathogen care and oversight and other bureaucratic categories.
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And lastly, there's unreported BSL 3 and 4 lab incidents there.
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Free of Information Act requests revealed over 200 documented lab accidents involving infectious materials across federally funded institutions, 2004 to 2019.
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Vast majority are underreported or sanitized in official summaries reflecting the chronic transparency uh uh deficit in biosecurity research.
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And just to give you uh an idea, the Pandora report, which uh came out recently on December uh 15th, 2025 by Kellogg and colleagues uh uh highlighted uh basically a uh biosecurity breach at the URC of Texas medical branch in Galveston, uh, and this was really uh a complete disaster.
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And so this happened through 2024 reported in 2025.
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Now, there are economic institutional motives.
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The structure of dual use research incentives is problematic.
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The funding dependency, the labs compete for NIH and DOD grants, the pandemic potential becomes an attractive pitch, big pharma partnerships, companies gain early access to experimental strains that later justify vaccine development contracts, regulatory capture, the committee's overseeing biosafety are often staffed by representatives of the very institutions that regulate a revolving door that mirrors the pharmaceutical and defense industries.
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Uh patent economics, engineering new strains creates new intellectual property for vaccine platforms, incentivizing a cycle of problem creation solution sale.
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By their nature, these dynamics mean that dual use research cannot be properly disentangled from profit interests.
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The public faces the risk, private actors secure the patents and payouts.
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Now, what are the oversights and mechanisms here and their weaknesses?
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This P3CO framework established in 2017 to regulate enhanced potential pandemic pathogens, EPPP.
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However, the implementation remains murky.
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There's no public database of approved proposals, decisions are made behind closed doors, exemptions easily granted under biodefense or vaccine testing just justifications.
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There's a select agent program.
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This program nominally monitors possession of regulatory pathogens like anthrax Ebola.
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However, enforcement relies on self reporting and rarely imposes penalty for lab breaches.
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And number three, Freedom of Information Act evasion.
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Many projects are classified under national security.
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Security exemptions, even when conducted by universities.
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This shields funding sources, biosafety incident reports, and publication data.
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So the global ramifications are that dual-use pathogen research isn't just a U.S.
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issue, but because the U.S.
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dominance in biotech funding and globalization of research partners, U.S.
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oversight or lack thereof directly shapes the world's biosafety environment.
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Outsourcing the partner nations amplifies risks through uh uh jurisdictional escape.
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Research that would be illegal in the United States is quietly executed abroad, like in China with creation of SARS-CoV-2.
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The cycle of create contain cure entrenches a dependency on central vaccine production and surveillance systems for the consolidated institutional power over global health.
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Let me tell you, the next uh vaccine will probably be a government-issued vaccine with rich profits to the manufacturer.
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This model effectively transforms pandemics into a recurrent business opportunities with vaccines and diagnostics as profitable endpoints, not as preventive measures.
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There are ethical and strategic implications.
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The moral dilemma emerges here.
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How do we justify research that could save lives if its mere existence could end billions?
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The argument for preemptive study relies on a utilitarian logic that collapses under real world incentive structures.
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No laboratories 100% secure.
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Even the BSL 4 facilities experienced leaks, smallpox escape in the UK 1978, uh or anthrax mishandling at the CDC Center in 2014.
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Those are just examples.
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The URC Texas Medical Branch uh lab leak recently.
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The the uh energy devoted to hypothetical vaccine prototypes diverse funding from low-risk, high-yield measures like sanitation, air quality improvement, nutritional inventions, and early treatment protocols.
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Centralizing pandemic science center secrecy perpetuates an arms race of viral enhancement, reminiscing reminiscent of nuclear proliferation, cloaked as biodefense.
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So, in conclusion, rethinking this pandemic preparedness, the U.S.
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approach to dual pandemic potential pathogens is a paradox wrapped in bureaucracy.
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On paper, it serves uh health security.
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In reality, it creates on an ongoing feedback loop to number one engineer dangerous pathogens.
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Number two, model crisis and procure funding.
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Number three, develop vaccine or or uh for the pathogen that's created.
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Number four, repeat increasingly under secrecy.
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This perpetual self-licking ice cream cone of biosurveillance and vaccine development endangers the the public under the guise of protecting it.
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It amplifies why transparency, not secrety is a secrecy is a first principle of biosecurity until an independent oversight uh system is in place.
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Uh uh you know, we this is really beyond uh self-policing federal committees.
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Uh the U.S.
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bios uh safety landscape will continue to operate as a gray zone of moral hazard, blending scientific ambition, economic incentive, and military influence into one volatile mixture.
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So, in summary, U.S.
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biolabs working on pathogens of dual pandemic potential embody a dangerously blurred line between health defense and biohazardous offense.
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While their stated mission is to prevent the next global outbreak, the secrecy, funding incentives, and deficiencies and oversight mean that much more of the research itself may constitute the next outbreak's root cause.
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The convergence of biotechnology, military defense interest, and pharmaceutical profits have produced an ecosystem where pandemic prevention laboratories, ironically, represent humanity's most consistent pandemic risk.
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Meaning the next pandemic almost certainly is going to come out of a biosecurity lab and not come out of nature.
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Now, this week's show is uh a featured uh interview that I had, Dr.
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Peter McCullough with Lance Walnow.
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And Lance Walnow is very interesting.
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He's a televangelist, he's part of the Flash Point Army, uh, this real movement across the United States, organized by Gene Bailey and the Flashpoint staff and and really the entire um uh televangelist movement.
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Walnow is uh clearly grounded in common sense, uh, understands and respects science.
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Uh those uh in his circles, many uh did not take the COVID-19.
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Sadly, many did take the vaccine and they regret it.
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But uh Lance and I go through this.
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We think a future pandemic combined with China having a grip over the U.S.
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drug supply could put us under a tremendous constraint.
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Vaccines are not the solution to pandemics because in a widely prevalent infection, giving a vaccine is just going to promote resistant strains.
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That's exactly what's happened with the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
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It happens with antigenic drift every year in the influenza vaccine, which gets progressively less effective.
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And it's happened recently now with the uh ever-increasing multivalency of the bacterial pneumococcal vaccine, where it doesn't work anymore.
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And so people who take the vaccine actually have an increased risk of a death, and so it clearly backfires.
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So let's get on to the main show.
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All right.
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People have hundreds of questions.
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I was just asking you about this.
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A new study that skewers the jabs.
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This is from Coffee and COVID, that author.
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MRNA lingers in awkward places.
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And uh and the in Germany, they did something rather courageous.
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They came up with a discussion of the pandemic, and uh and they have a sudden surge of excessive mortality that keeps on climbing post-COVID, but they're not relating it back to the vaccine, but the they don't have an explanation as to the mortality that came after the uh the jabs, and so the suspicion is based on the data, what's causing this excessive mortality?
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Do you have any thoughts on this?
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Well, ever since 2021, mortality has been going up.
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It's been going up in all different age groups, but prominently young people.
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Uh 2021, by the way, was a terrible year for maternal deaths, women delivering babies, uh, middle-aged individuals, and um, most everybody's been through COVID.
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And COVID became progressively milder, it mutated to milder strains.
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We developed more and more sophisticated treatments for COVID.
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So COVID should not be an explanation.
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In fact, is not an explanation for the increased mortality seen worldwide.
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It really coincides with rollout of the COVID 19 vaccines, which have peer reviewed, published.
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Fatal side effects can be the only answer.
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Can be the only answer.
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So you were the first one that freaked me out.
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With my son, for instance, wasn't vaxxed and went to the doctor and came up with some evidence of spike protein in his system.
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And that then that was when I started listening more closely on shedding.
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Is that is that a real thing?
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I mean, uh, for those of us that weren't, didn't take that jab, but then we're realizing, hey, it doesn't mean you're out of the out of the zone there.
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Mm-hmm.
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Well, Lance, about 19% of us did not take the vaccine.
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I didn't take the vaccine.
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I'm a doctor.
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It's my judgment they weren't safe.
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And boy, was I right.
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Do you know CDC former director Robert Redfield was out this week on an EPAC Times?
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He also said the vaccines weren't safe and they should be removed from the market.
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He was one of the biggest promoters of the vaccines five years ago.
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So my gosh.
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People are starting to come around with the conclusion that they're not safe.
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Now, um, the vaccine superloads the body with spike protein.
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And there's a paper by Barham and colleagues showing the average antibody level against the spike protein in someone who took the shots is about 11,000.
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I see patients 15,000, 20,000 uh binding units per ml on this blood test.
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It's available through Lab Corp, by the way.
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Anybody can have it.
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Your son probably had it.
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Now, if you've had the infection alone, it should be less than a thousand.
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Now, people who start to be over a thousand and have had the infection, we wonder about shedding.
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That is either recurrent SARS-CoV-2 infection exposure or exposure from spike protein from those who've taken the vaccine.
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They're loaded with it.
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We know it comes out in exosomes, exhaled breath, sweat, body fluids.
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Um whatever the source of the spike protein, some of us have more of it than others.
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It is related to side effects if the spike protein value in the bloodstream is greater than a thousand.
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Does it just go away by itself, or do you have to do something to really deal with that?
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You have to.
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That's the problem.
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Uh I just saw a patient today who's got a terrible neurologic problem and a heart problem due to uh the vaccines, Moderna vaccines, and the spike protein is loaded in her body.
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Uh you know, modern medical centers don't even measure the spike protein in the bloodstream, nor do they address it with uh products like this.
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Now, this is copyrighted in my name because I was the first to publish the protocol, but it's not patented intentionally, because the individual ingredients anybody can find on the internet and come up with their own protocol just to match the McCullough protocol is fine.
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But you have to do this, Lance, and your son should do it.
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Uh almost everybody we know who's had the infection or taking the vaccine should do it.
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It's dangerous to leave the spike protein in the body because it can end up leading to blood clots or heart problems later on.
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Well, you were the first one that had postulated that uh the iodine, i iodine uh solution, uh appropriately dissolved and sprayed in the nasal path.
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I mean, when I brought this up, I mean, even AI is goofy.
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I bring it up and it goes, oh no, that's not a solution.
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I go, you're not even educated.
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Come on.
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Elon, get Grok up to date here.
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But I mean, but I mean, uh I was trying to figure out how could you be around all these patients and you yourself were doing so well, then you said you would do this nasal uh spray with iodine, right?
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Right.
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I did it this morning.
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So any type of nasal spray with uh, you know, saline nasal spray, dilute iodine, xylitol, chloidal silver, they all work.
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I like the ones that are a combination.
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So like today, I had a xylitol-based one.
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I put a few drops of iodine and some salt in it, but a couple sprays up the nose, sniff it back, spit it out, and then gargle.
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Scope blisterine, spry, a gargle, and do this twice a day because the virus lands in your nose.
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It's in there for a week, getting stronger and stronger, and you don't feel it.
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It actually needs a stable environment.
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Then you get a sore throat, then the nasal congestion.
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So you've actually had a week to knock it out if you just do it twice a day, Lance.
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You're gonna be one of our key speakers at our health summit.
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I want everybody to make sure you know it's gonna be in January.
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Now I know you're thinking Christmas and shopping and this and nothing's more important than this kind of intelligence that you get because you're in you're in the season anyway with all the flu craziness we're gonna be talking about.
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These are people that are that are the ones that get banned everywhere else but are actually speaking the truth.
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And uh by the way, it's flu season now, so I got a question for you.
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I feel like I'm with my doctor here taking advantage of you for a broadcast.
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Um with flu shots widely published, what alternatives do you recommend or or with the this flu season ramping up?
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What are the um treatments everyday Americans should be using?
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You know, every day the flu shots get weaker and weaker, Lance.
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They don't provide really any meaningful protection.
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So make sure you get immune defense.
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You wait to day five and get really sick.
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Different story.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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This is why people need to come to this summit.
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And by the way, you need to be paying attention paying attention to this before the summit.
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Now, um you also, the kid includes ivermectin, right?
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Boy, did that get a brand re re uh revisit after it was proven to be so after it was horse, you know, poor Joe Rogan got smacked around for a horse medicine or something like that.
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But ivermectin is is proven to be a really uh a big deal still, right?
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Yeah.
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Ivermectin turned out to be one of the most useful drugs in a study done in Florida, the icon study published in chest, you know, it reduced mortality from COVID for impatients by 50 percent.
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It should have been used in every hospitalized patient.
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Sadly, hospitals denied patients, pharmacy shut down distribution of it.
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It's a very useful drug.
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Uh, it's used to treat uh a whole array of viral infections now.
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Uh it's used to treat parasitic infections.
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Uh Cedar Cyanai, UCLA actually has a cancer treatment protocol featuring ivermectin.
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So with any human crisis uh as big as the pandemic, there should be positive spin-offs, and ivermectin is one of them.
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Okay, so um here's a big question for you.
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You were named the top health care freedom advocate for 2025.
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What is Robert Kennedy Jr.
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doing right now that we should be getting behind?
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What changes are happening?
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I don't think the Maha movement is getting it doesn't have its own channel like war room with Bannon where everybody gets informed.
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What's happening there that we should know about?
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Well, you know, I I think Robert F.
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Kennedy and others in HHS have figured out that there is a biomedical deep state, just like there's a geopolitical deep state within government.
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There's a deep state of uh entrenched employees by the thousands who don't want change.
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And when Kennedy has done through his skillful uh redesign of the immunization committee, is that they're shaking up vaccines.
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They will be um I think almost certainly lessening the burden of vaccines on children, starting with a hepatitis B shot and the rest of the schedule.
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Uh we're looking to into radical transparency on government decision making as it happened with COVID.
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Now the FDA, somebody ethical inside the FDA Lance leaked out a report where they knew 10 children who died after the vaccine.
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They had 96 total.
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The CDC reporting system has 200.
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Now they're starting to meant the vaccine actually cost people their lives.
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And Americans are welcoming this transparency, and they want to know what's next, because the next steps obviously involve justice.
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You know, they they sure do.
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And you know, I only got 40, 40 seconds left in this segment.
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Do you mind if I hold you over?
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Because I want to I just want to do part two of this interview.
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We got 15 minutes, 12 minutes left.
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And I've got a couple of questions from uh the audience here I want to give them.
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We'll be right back.
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All right, we're back with Dr.
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Peter McCullough right now.
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And uh, you know, I'm I'm interested in this deep state uh pharmaceutical medical situation.
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My my concern is that Donald Trump, and I don't think people fully appreciate this.
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What he's got is he's got the top layer with a Pam Bondi and uh, you know, he's got uh cash patel, Dan Bon Gino.
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People don't realize that we're even hard on.
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Them because they don't move fast enough.
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But they're on top of a leviathan of deep state infrastructure that is probably just waiting for this summer storm of Donald Trump to pass so they can get back to business as usual.
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Do you use do you does it concern you at all that there's that much entrenched bureaucracy, particularly in the medical field that is that is interfering with real solutions?
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Lance, it's astounding to think that the Centers for Disease Control, the CDC, has 12,000 employees, MDs, PhDs.
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These are highly educated people.
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They have a $9 billion budget.
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They don't treat a single patient.
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They don't operate any clinics.
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They don't develop any new medicines.
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I mean, this is a giant sinkhole of American dollars.
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You know, I think for what the CDC does, which is some uh you know, tracking and surveillance of infections and the recommendations they put out, I would say no more than a thousand are needed.
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Wow.
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But not 12,000.
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Not 9 billion dollars of money.
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And you know, since the pandemic lands, they've been working from home.
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They're on Zoom.
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These people don't want to give up their jobs.
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They don't want to make a single change.
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I bet the leaders in HHS, Kennedy and others, I bet it's hard for them to get a meeting because these people don't show up.
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And I would imagine they actually don't follow orders.
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So there, so therefore, what the is there anything that all the viewers that are watching this are nodding their heads and going, yeah, you know, and it's frustrating.
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Is there anything that people can do to support the efforts that are being made by Kennedy, by folks like you?
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I mean, what's the what's the way that we deal with this?
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The way we deal with it, I think, is supporting outside very influential forces.
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So, you know, we lead one here in Dallas, the McCullough Foundation.
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We issued a report on autism, October 27th, 2025, that clearly show giving kids big bundles of vaccines.
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It's probably a risk factor for autism based on the evidence.
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Do you know within three weeks the CDC changed their statements on the website?
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And then, you know, a few weeks after that, Trump is saying the whole vaccine schedule should be overhauled.
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It's actually external forces like the McCullough Foundation.
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Like Flashpoint is very important.
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Uh, your efforts uh in the media, we're actually having a bigger influence than insiders are in Washington.
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Wow.
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Well, that's kind of encouraging.
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Is the supply chain still an issue in your opinion?
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Uh, because we stopped talking about it, but uh no nobody who understands the global complexity of China.
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We're really dependent on China a lot, aren't we?
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We're far too dependent on China.
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And Trump made some constructive steps on bringing pharmaceutical manufacturing back to the United States, and I hope there's a complete pull through on this from HHS and the Department of Commerce.
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Do you know if if things got sideways with China, they could constrict us on things like critical blood pressure, diabetes, cholesterol, heart medications, cancer medications.
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So virtually all the generic drugs come from China or India.
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And so I think everybody should be again talking about this to make sure that we do begin to bring pharmaceutical manufacturing and supply chain back to the United States.
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Well, my big concern is when I when I think apocalyptically, I think about how our country regulates to some degree, obviously what we do, or we wouldn't have been over in the Wuhan lab trying to get around the American system, which nobody talks about.
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But the uh I'm concerned about ghastly experiments that are being done with uh with uh you know the human body and and where there's no regulation on this.
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I mean, I heard this weird comment that Putin and she made, and it was, I believe it was made intentionally so that it could be overheard, where uh she was talking about how it's possible to live to a hundred or 110, 120 because you can harvest organs and they what they're talking about, literally replacing parts of your body that don't work.
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And I'm thinking, what in the world are they doing in China where they have no regulatory um restraints on what they do?
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If there was something that concerned you about unmanaged experimentation in this area of of science, uh it it very well could be that there could be terrible new things released that are the unintentional consequence of meddling like that.
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Look how fast it can start in one country and spread to another.
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Do you ever think about that in your Stephen King nightmare uh mode?
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Or we've addressed this on focal points, uh, you know, our substacking at the McCullough Foundation.
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You know, Trump stopped federal funding for biolabs for these pathogens of dual purpose potential, that is creating a pandemic and then creating vaccines to you know address the pandemic.
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But he didn't shut down the labs.
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Now, these labs could be richly funded by the Gates Foundation, these other government, nongovernmental agencies that are in the business of creating pandemic viruses.
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I think we should shut down the labs altogether, Lance.
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They can't be regulated in the United States.
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Do you know we have uh 14 of them in the United States?
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One of them is in Galveston, Texas.
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You know, that's pretty close to where we are in Dallas.
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And um, I gotta tell you there are leaks.
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These labs are not uh well uh you know inspected, or they're certainly not free of risk, and they're just uh in a sense inviting trouble.
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Remember Peter Dasick who helped uh Ralph Barrick and Fauci create the SARS-CoV-2 virus in Wuhan, he testified and said, I've got dozens of more samples over in Wuhan.
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So he's got like COVID-20 locked and loaded and the Chinese have it.
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My God.
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That's that's just so shocking.
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So, and of course, uh if if they could come up with a vaccine and and they have it, you know how this bio bioterror works, folks.
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This is a weapon.
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It's like nuclear weapons.
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So if you can experiment in your lab and come up with the um the vaccine, then you've got it, and other countries don't have it, and they've got to figure out how to get it, and you launch a bioweapon.
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Isn't that the isn't that the scenario uh of how that thing works?
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Precisely.
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It it's a power grab.
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If you hold a threat and you hold the answer, it's like holding a nuclear missile and and holding a nuclear defense system at the same time.
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It's just now transferred into this new era of biowarfare.
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That's the reason why Ukraine is of uh interest to many degrees, all the biolabs there.
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It was biolabs all over the world.
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And I hope somebody at the new administration is looking at this carefully and mapping it out because there will be a next pandemic, but it's gonna come out of a lab, not out of nature.
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Which which makes it even more sinister because it's engineered so that it uh there's no real biological way of uh of resolving it.
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So uh what you know, one of my one of my fears is that we are so anti vax now because we don't trust the government, we don't trust the CDC, that uh what happens if something breaks out that you actually need to be vaccinated for?
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Most people that are coming from uh this education process are saying the heck with that, I won't do it.
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And it's created a tremendous distrust, hasn't it?
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It's so true.
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People don't trust the government at all.
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Now, the wellness company is a trusted source of information, and we have a whole array of home medical kits for the common things, but you know, we also have a radiation kit.
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We have uh the the uh the very large home base kit and people out there, especially in your audience, Lance who are preppers.
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They're people who want to prepare for disasters.
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Uh, you know, they do work with companies like the wellness company, get things pre-prescribed, and so they're prepared.
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Well, okay, here's here's a here's a plug for you folks out there, Lancewallmot.com forward slash medical.
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And you know, we've got people that are all prepping with food and stuff in the event that there's a disruption of the food train chain.
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But man, uh you want to be able to definitely be preparing yourself for for the medical uh arena as well.
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Uh what is on the horizon for you, Peter?
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I mean, when you look at when you look at the next thing you're putting your energy into, what are you focused on at this point?
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We're looking at ways of clearing out the spike protein.
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We have ultimate spike detox.
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We believe a second product of a uh supercharged Nacetal system will help.
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And then we want to find ways of getting the messenger RNA out of the body.
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Right now, when you rely on hyperbaric oxygen and uh, you know, saunas and sweating, it does come out in sweat.
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There may be ways of actually, in a sense, uh what's called robotecking or simply neutralizing the messenger RNA out of the body.
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And you know, many are looking towards the microbiome, how to favorably affect the bacteria, fungi, and viruses that are in our body.
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So go to the wellness company, check out our array of products.
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We're really on the leading edge of bringing people to optimal health.
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Uh all right, we got two minutes for you to explain.
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There's only a professor can messenger RNA.
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My audience is familiar with the term.
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They haven't got a clue to describe it, you know, on a on a napkin.
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What are we talking about?
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Well, we have DNA, and the DNA produces natural messenger RNA, which is a signal that goes to the ribosomes and the ribosomes produce a protein from that code.
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That the messenger RNA is dissolved within a matter of a few minutes or hours.
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What Pfizer and Moderna did is they made their messenger RNA synthetic for the spike protein.
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The spike protein is the spine on the surface of the virus.
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Lands.
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This is the dangerous part of the virus that causes blood clots and heart damage and kills people.
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Well, Pfizer and Moderna, messenger RNA is indestructible, synthetic messenger RNA that codes for the spike protein.
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That's the reason why it's so dangerous.
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We clear out the spike protein, and we want to eliminate Pfizer and Moderna from the body.
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Everybody should get a spike protein blood test, and then you know, see doctors who are forward thinking on this because you know we don't want to see further harm.
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And so and there's a way that you can clean out the messenger RNA from your system.
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And uh and there again, uh, this stuff could actually be picked up by people that didn't necessarily get a vaccine, right?
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Right.
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There's that's called shedding.
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Helene Benoon in France has been the best to show this.
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Um hopefully it's low level at this uh stage.
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Fewer than one percent of people are taking these shot slants.
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So we've just got to get them off the market and begin the full recovery.
40:56
Well, we appreciate your labors and and at some point we'll have to talk about your experience when you were trying to get preventative steps taken up at the White House.
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I watched you then with great frustration saying all this attention going into vaccines.
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There's preventative things you could do.
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And they just weren't interested in that because somebody was marketing for the pharmaceuticals, and that's I reading that right pretty much.
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That's exactly right.
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Early treatment was suppressed in order to essentially railroad the country into mass vaccination.
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Well, Dr.
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Peter McCullough, thank you very much.
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I know you got a hard exit, so we enjoy being with you.
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We'll have you back again.
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Look forward to seeing you at the summit for sure in Florida.
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See you soon, Lance.
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All right, God bless you.
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I'm Dr.
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Peter McCullough.
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I want to give you a critical update from the wellness company.
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Many of you know that I'm the chief scientific officer of the wellness company, which is a rapidly growing vertically integrated health care company in the United States.
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It's had uh a tremendous meteoric rise in terms of success out of the pandemic.
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And now this fall, wellness care was announced.
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This is the wellness company's care management program for Texas Medicare recipients, and it will spread nationwide.
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But this is specifically for my followers in Texas.
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The wellness company's wellness care program for Texas Medicare recipients is a comprehensive patient-centered care management model designed to improve health outcomes, enhance quality of life, and reduce hospitalizations through proactive individualized support.
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This program emphasizes prevention, chronic disease management, and coordination across all health care providers to ensure that every participant receives consistent holistic care.
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Now, at its core, wellness care integrates the principles of functional primary and preventive medicine into a streamlined system accessible to Medicare beneficiaries.
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The program begins with a detailed assessment of each enrollee's health profile, including medical history, medication review, social determinants of health and lifestyle factors.
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From this assessment, a personalized care plan is developed by a multidisciplinary team composed of nurses, care coordinators, and wellness specialists with oversight from the wellness company physicians familiar with both conventional and integrative approaches.
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Now, the key features of the program are number one, chronic condition management.
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Many Medicare recipients live with conditions such as diabetes, heart disease, emphysema or hypertension.
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Wellness care provides continuous monitoring, education, and medication support to help participants maintain stability and avoid complications.
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Regular follow-up ensures adherence to treatment goals and prompts identification of risk changes.
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Number two, preventive and holistic focus.
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The program proactively targets health risks before they escalate into crisis, emphasizing emphasis is on uh placed on nutrition, physical activity, mental health, and environmental wellness.
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Medicare recipients are supported in developing sustainable lifestyle changes, not just receiving prescriptions.
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This reflects the wellness company's philosophy that prevention and education are more powerful than intervention after decline.
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Number three, care coordination and navigation.
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Each member is assigned a dedicated care manager who serves as the central point of contact between the patients, health care providers, specialists, and family members.
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This reduced, uh this reduces fragmentation of care, minimizes medication conflicts, and ensures uh all aspects of a patient's medical and social needs are managed collaboratively.
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Number four, telehealth and remote monitoring.
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The program leverages uh technology to make health care accessible for rural and homeboys.
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Remote check-ins and digital monitoring tools allow real-time health data collection, blood pressure, glucose, activity tracking, which are analyzed to adjust care plans promptly.
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This integration helps reduce unnecessary ER visits and hospital readmissions.
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Number five, education and empowerment.
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Participants are encouraged to take an active role in their health management.
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Wellness coaches provide education about medication safety, nutrition supplements, and non-pharmacological therapies when appropriate.
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Like particularly the nutraceuticals and supplements from the wellness company, including McCullough Protocol based spike protein detoxification.
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So many Medicare recipients unfortunately took the COVID-19 vaccines, and now they need the McCullough Protocol, ultimate spike detox in order to return to normal health.
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Now we're empowering patients with knowledge cultivates independence, confidence, and better decision making.
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Number six, community and support services.
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Beyond clinical care, uh the wellness care program connects members with community-based resources for food, housing, transportation, and mental health needs, addressing the social determinants that directly influence medical outcomes.
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You know, it's a big deal just for a senior citizen to get to a doctor's appointment.
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That's where wellness care comes in.
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We can make that happen.
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So the impact and philosophy here is that the wellness company believes in transparent preventive and compassionate care, a departure from fragmented reactive medical models.
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The Texas Medicare program embodies a commitment to measurable improvement in quality of life indicators such as energy, mobility, and emotional health, not just laboratory biomarkers.
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Through consistent engagement and integration of medical behavioral and lifestyle changes, wellness care ensures that aging adults in Texas can live independently, supported and well-informed within a system that values human health over bureaucracy.
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So this summary uh it captures what we're trying to do with the wellness company now with wellness care.
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My mother is a Medicare recipient in Texas.
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She has no care management.
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And then my mother-in-law lives with us most of the time.
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She's also on Medicare, and she has no care management.
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So here are two enrollees.
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Uh there's no cost for us to get them enrolled in wellness care.
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Get a care coordinator assigned, and then start having some basic coordination of things.
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You know, people are not reminded regarding their doctor's appointments.
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Nobody's looking after their laboratories, and when last laboratories were done, and there's so many labs that need to be done on some type of regular basis.
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So for instance, I
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Would suggest that every senior citizen at the bare minimum once a year get a CBC ferritin level to check on iron stores, a complete metabolic profile, including glycohemoglobin for diabetes screening and management, as well as well as a lipid profile.
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Now, over 90% of Medicare recipients are on prescription medications, and so additional drug monitoring is needed.
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For instance, I have a Medicare patient of mine right now who has severe hyponatremia, a very low sodium level, and she's in the hospital.
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She's been hospitalized multiple times, and now we're putting her on an advanced drug called Tovaptum or SAMSCA.
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Well, listen, if we didn't have routine labs, we could have never solved this case as she was crashing into the hospital with changes in mental status and worsening of her overall condition, which includes having a prior bypass surgery, hypertension, chronic kidney disease, and a metabolic syndrome.
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So that's just one aspect of care.
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The other thing is that care management has not been well integrated.
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It's uh work previously based on faxed systems and nobody checks fax machines and faxes are lost at the wellness company.
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We want to get everything fully electronic, no more fax machines.
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Uh we will help large medical groups actually do better because patients will be more compliant in keeping their appointments and more compliant in terms of getting labs and necessary medication changes.
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Now, I've neglected to mention an important laboratory to be measured as the TSH or the thyroid stimulating hormone, because 15% of women, the thyroid becomes underactive over time, and it's 8% of men.
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It becomes underactive.
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And so we need screening for thyroid disease.
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Many of you listening are on thyroid hormones from primarily levothyroxin.
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So you should have a blood TSH measure to probably every six months.
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I know that my wife, my mother-in-law, and my mother are on uh levothyroxin, and so they need blood test monitoring because we may need to adjust the the amount of levi thyroxin given in replacement.
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An average human thyroid makes 150 micrograms of levothyroxin per day.
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Now it takes many, many years for the thyroid to completely burn out in a process called Heshimoto's thyroiditis.
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And so you'll see patients on anywhere from 25 to 50 to 75 to 100, 125 micrograms of leviroxin.
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But if you had 150, you're at full replacement.
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Rarely would someone need to go beyond that.
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But care management is a lot more than just management of labs and prescription medications, staying on the ball, helping people avoid drug interactions.
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What we do at the wellness company is go well beyond that.
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And I can tell you, nutraceuticals and supplements play a huge role.
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We have products that help people avoid development of diabetes, including the products appetite drop, and peak metabolism.
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We have products that improve sexual health, including MARS for men and Venus for women.
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We have products that the prescription pharmaceutical aspects of health care can't handle, including hair loss, and that's the root system, both capsules and the topical lotion that's rubbed in.
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And uh importantly, all these available through the wellness company.
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And of course, those who've had long COVID or received COVID-19 vaccination for sure will need the ultimate spike detox.
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The dose out of the bottle on the back of the bottle is two capsules twice a day in between meals on an empty stomach, probably for a year or more.
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Many seniors also have heart disease, so we recommend heart support.
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Others will have cognitive decline.
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There we recommend mind lift.
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And then for general health, many complain of fatigue.
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That's where elevated energy comes into play.
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The other thing we can do is address uh bothersome issues that simply many times are not brought up in the clinic, including sleeplessness and insomnia.
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There at the wellness company, we have a non-addictive, non-melatonin-based, natural botanical blend called restful sleep.
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So you can see at the wellness company, we have so many products that will help seniors who sign up for Medicare care management.
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Only 15% of Medicare patients actually enroll in care management.
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It's a wonderful benefit offered by the U.S.
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Medicare system.
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And at the wellness company, we're going to fill that gap with our innovation and with our wonderful product line that will enable so many more seniors to have healthy and productive and long lives on Medicare.
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Now, my birthday is coming up in the month of December, and I am growing close to being a Medicare recipient myself.
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Most of my friends are Medicare recipients, and many of my followers are Medicare recipients.
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So if you're in Texas and you want to take care, take advantage of a program, it's not going to cost you any more money.
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Look at the wellness care from the wellness company, sign up for care management, and then enroll in the program and give me feedback personally through the America Outloud platform, reach out through the platform, let me know how the process goes through enrollment, and uh we make our promise to you at the wellness company that we're going to do everything we can to improve all aspects of your health as a Medicare recipient.
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And very importantly, avoid too bad outcomes.
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Hospitalization and death.
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And if you can stay out of the hospital and stay alive and stay in good shape, you're winning the game as a senior citizen, and you deserve that as a Medicare recipient.
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So please check out wellness care and sign up for wellness care management.
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And you can do this at the end of the year here in 2025 or early into 2026.
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I'm Dr.
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Peter McCullough, your host of American Loud Talk Radio McCullough Report and Chief Scientific Officer of the Wellness Company.
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