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AFP - Get out and vote! · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Talk Station. 729 on a Wednesday. Getting used to this
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  Speaker 1: time of the week because we get to hear from
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  Speaker 1: Donovan O'Neill, Americans for Prosperity, AFP Action State Director. You
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  Speaker 1: can find the Buckeye Blueprint over at BuckeyeBlueprint.com. Building a bolder,
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  Speaker 1: better Buckeye State. And you can get involved. Get in
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  Speaker 1: touch with BuckeyeBlueprint.com. Let AFP help you help all of
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  Speaker 1: us here in the state of Ohio. Right, Donovan? Welcome back,
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  Speaker 1: my friend. It's always a pleasure to have you on
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  Speaker 1: the morning show.
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  Speaker 2: Brian, great way to start my day.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Early voting, that's next week, right, Donovan?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It is. We're within seven days. You've got, what, about six.
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  Speaker 3: Days left to get yourself registered to vote if you're
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  Speaker 3: not registered. And then first ballots will be cast in
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  Speaker 3: this election on Tuesday, as crazy as that is.
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  Speaker 1: You see the headlines like I see the headlines, and
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  Speaker 1: every day yet another group of polls or poll that
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  Speaker 1: comes out talking about the Democrats are going to win,
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  Speaker 1: and we have three new polls out. We have the
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  Speaker 1: Marist poll, the quote-unquote big data poll, I've never heard
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  Speaker 1: of that one before, plus the Suffolk University slash USA
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  Speaker 1: Today Network Ohio poll, all of which have Amy Acton
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  Speaker 1: far ahead of, or at least multiple points ahead of
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  Speaker 1: Vivek Ramaswamy. And then, of course, the Sherrod Brown-John Husted race.
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  Speaker 1: They have Brown leading Husted by several points in that
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  Speaker 1: one as well. Gloom and doom out there, but I
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  Speaker 1: keep going back to the 2016 election. Everybody had every
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  Speaker 1: single poll with a couple of minor exceptions. Hillary Clinton
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  Speaker 1: was going to beat Donald Trump by at least three points,
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  Speaker 1: more like five or even eight. And then lo and behold,
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump won.
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Because everybody got up and went out and voted, much
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  Speaker 1: to the surprise of pollsters and the Democrat Party.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I look at politics. It's not exactly similar, right, Brian?
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  Speaker 3: But it's like sports betting lines in.
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  Speaker 2: College football, right? There's a reason you.
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  Speaker 3: Play the game even when Vegas has folks– folks up 30,
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  Speaker 3: 40 points, right?
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  Speaker 2: There are upsets.
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  Speaker 3: The good news here is these polls don't have a
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  Speaker 3: separation like that. It's one, within margin of error. Two,
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  Speaker 3: the kind of people who do polls, right, something that's
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  Speaker 3: been increasingly discussed in recent years because of the change
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  Speaker 3: in landline phones and just voter behavior and habits, these
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  Speaker 3: polls aren't always spot on with where folks are.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a good pulse.
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  Speaker 3: I do think the election is neck and neck and close,
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  Speaker 3: but There's a reason we have the elections and don't
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  Speaker 3: just decide our leaders off of polls, Brian. It's because
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  Speaker 3: voters actually decide and have to get out and do
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  Speaker 3: the work. It really comes down to who's campaigning the
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  Speaker 3: best and has the strongest grassroots ground game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had Tom Zawistowski on yesterday from wethepeopleconvention.org, and
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  Speaker 1: he's on every Tuesday. And he had mentioned that he
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  Speaker 1: had the most accurate poll, I believe, for the 2016 election.
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  Speaker 1: That was back in a time before we had the
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  Speaker 1: do not call list. And he literally was able to
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  Speaker 1: reach out with anybody in the state of Ohio with
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  Speaker 1: a phone. So he ended up with a very accurate
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  Speaker 1: poll because it wasn't, you know, limited to those people
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  Speaker 1: who just bothered to respond. He actually, you know, rang
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  Speaker 1: them up and engaged in a communication with them, much
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  Speaker 1: like AFP does, knocking doors. But he had a very
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  Speaker 1: accurate poll, and everybody's like, how in the hell did
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  Speaker 1: you do that? How come you haven't done it since?
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  Speaker 1: He said, well, I can't do it because it's against
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  Speaker 1: the law to contact people who are on the do
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  Speaker 1: not call list. So the one mechanism to bring about
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  Speaker 1: some at least semblance of reality is is no longer
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  Speaker 1: available to us here. So we're left with what these guys,
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  Speaker 1: who they reach out to. And quite often, the numbers
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  Speaker 1: are skewed. I mean, they reach out to a certain
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  Speaker 1: percentage of a defined group of people, like we're going
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  Speaker 1: to call X number of Democrats. It's weighted, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that's one of the reasons you end up with
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  Speaker 1: poor polling results.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you've got that.
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, again, the type of folks who
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  Speaker 3: are engaged... in these polls. And then what it really
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  Speaker 3: comes down to are the people who are going to
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  Speaker 3: go out to vote. And while ballots will be cast
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  Speaker 3: next week, people who already know where they're going to
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  Speaker 3: be will get those in. There are a number of
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  Speaker 3: folks through the weeks leading up to it, 30 days
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  Speaker 3: of voting in this state. It's an election season, not
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  Speaker 3: an election day. And those are folks who are also
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  Speaker 3: up for grabs. And again, I think that's maybe biased
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  Speaker 3: as a grassroots organization, but that's where um you know
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  Speaker 3: good ground games can make up a huge difference in
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  Speaker 3: in what polling numbers might be showing right now those
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  Speaker 3: undecided voters who you know we can get in our
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  Speaker 3: column and turn out to vote on or before election
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  Speaker 3: day well.
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  Speaker 1: We'll i just have to ask you this we'll take
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  Speaker 1: a break and bring it back to talk about john
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  Speaker 1: husted ray specifically because what an amazing accomplishment you guys
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  Speaker 1: at afp did in door knocking but i was since
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  Speaker 1: we at representative bird uh from uh New Richmond phoned
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  Speaker 1: in earlier and said he was on his way to
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  Speaker 1: Columbus to vote on the gasoline relief tax bill, provide
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  Speaker 1: a temporary relief from the gas tax, which I guess
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  Speaker 1: has bipartisan support. I thought it rather comical. The Iranians
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  Speaker 1: issued a letter to the American people saying that we
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  Speaker 1: all need to collectively take back control from evil orange man.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're all in the same. We're all we
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  Speaker 1: all share the same pain. So the Iranians are trying
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  Speaker 1: to tap into the voter disgust over the high gasoline prices.
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  Speaker 1: Is that an issue when you're talking with folks going
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  Speaker 1: door to door? Do they bring up the high price
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  Speaker 1: of gasoline?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's one of.
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  Speaker 3: The dynamics that have been at play this election that
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  Speaker 3: was there two years ago, right? High fuel prices, people
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  Speaker 3: feel like they're paying more, getting less. It's absolutely prevalent. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, nothing's more in people's faces as sort of
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  Speaker 3: the feel for the economy than gas prices. We've talked
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  Speaker 3: about as an organization many, many years. So getting those
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  Speaker 3: under control, doing what you can, right, to hey, the government,
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  Speaker 3: state of Ohio is running a surplus right now and
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  Speaker 3: has those excess funds, and we don't have to tap
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  Speaker 3: into a rainy day fund to access them.
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  Speaker 2: Using that to.
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  Speaker 3: Help provide Americans, Ohioans, some relief.
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  Speaker 2: Is a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, fuel prices are top of the ticket for folks,
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  Speaker 3: that and just the overall cost of living.
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  Speaker 2: It's why we need to be.
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  Speaker 3: Looking forward on who we're electing and not going backwards
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  Speaker 3: and reelecting folks who've proven who they are over the
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  Speaker 3: last several decades.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Sherrod Brown versus John Houston. We're going to talk
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  Speaker 1: with Donovan Neal from Americans for Prosperity about this amazing
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  Speaker 1: feat that they accomplished in canvassing neighborhoods and going door
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  Speaker 1: to door. We'll also get the reaction from people when
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  Speaker 1: they talk about that particular race. Donovan Neal, Americans for Prosperity, again. Next,
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  Speaker 1: don't go away. It's 735. I have Donovan Neal from
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  Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity on the phone talking about, well, door-knocking campaigns,
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  Speaker 1: which Donovan speaks of regularly, and for us to get involved.
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  Speaker 1: And in order, well, in order to canvas all 99
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  Speaker 1: Ohio House districts in one single day reflects what help
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  Speaker 1: you provide can do. I mean, that's an amazing thing,
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  Speaker 1: Donald and Neil. I mean, how many people did you
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  Speaker 1: have out knocking doors that day?
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  Speaker 2: A couple hundred.
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  Speaker 3: A couple hundred is all it takes, Brian.
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  Speaker 2: Volunteers, staff, get around the state pretty easily that way.
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  Speaker 1: Man, that's a lot of doors.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and it's a testament.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was one of the things that we
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  Speaker 3: sort of, our team was looking at, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: reach that we've had, the way that, you know, thanks
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  Speaker 3: to our Buckeye Blueprint campaign and the work that so
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  Speaker 3: many folks do to show up and be involved with
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  Speaker 3: our 24-7, 365 operation. I wonder if we were to
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  Speaker 3: put a little effort into this and say, hey, can
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  Speaker 3: we organize some folks in different areas, try to get,
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  Speaker 3: you know, everybody we know around the state out? You know,
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  Speaker 3: on the same day, could we achieve that type of reach?
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  Speaker 3: Could we get to every corner of the state and
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  Speaker 3: have a presence and spread that message, right, of getting
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  Speaker 3: folks out to vote, getting folks out to vote for
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  Speaker 3: John Husted?
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  Speaker 2: Could we do that?
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  Speaker 3: And just kudos to our team for the infrastructure they've built,
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  Speaker 3: the work they've done, and especially the volunteers, the people
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  Speaker 3: who came out and showed up, put a little of
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  Speaker 3: their Saturday aside, right? came out, knocked doors for an hour,
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  Speaker 3: a couple hours with us, just to help make a
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  Speaker 3: difference and protect this.
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  Speaker 2: Country that's so great.
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  Speaker 1: Now, does AFP provide the addresses for the volunteers? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: do they know which specific addresses based upon some determination
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  Speaker 1: you've reached? Or is it just like, we're just going
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  Speaker 1: to go into the district and you just pick a
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  Speaker 1: neighborhood and start knocking doors? How does that work in practice?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all data-driven anymore, right? And so, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we're out there, as I mentioned, 24-7, 365 knocking. So
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  Speaker 3: we have good idea about a lot of voters. We've
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  Speaker 3: got our data gurus, right, which help us sort of
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  Speaker 3: identify people's voting trends, because all that information is public record.
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  Speaker 3: Not who you vote for, right, but the party, your
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  Speaker 3: party affiliation, how frequently you turn out to vote.
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  Speaker 2: And so... You know, we've got a targeted list.
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  Speaker 3: Of voters, about 1.2 million that we've identified in the
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  Speaker 3: state that we've been working since the spring to talk to,
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  Speaker 3: to engage with. And yeah, we equip our volunteers, our
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  Speaker 3: staff with those That list, it's all.
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  Speaker 2: In an app. Everything's an app now, right, Brian?
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  Speaker 3: And they go out and have those conversations. Each person
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  Speaker 3: has a script or some things we want to talk
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  Speaker 3: to them about, a message we believe is going to move.
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  Speaker 2: Them to go vote, motivate them to go vote.
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  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it really comes
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  Speaker 3: down to the simple principle of neighbors talking to neighbors
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  Speaker 3: and their community about the issues they care about and
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  Speaker 3: why this election, just like every election, is so important
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  Speaker 3: to make sure you turn out to vote for.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Let me just ask you this, because I saw this
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous quote from someone who was asked why they are
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  Speaker 1: angry and they're going to vote for Democrats. This person
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  Speaker 1: was quoted as saying, whoever the Democrat is, they'll get
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  Speaker 1: my vote.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Well, and it's not because they're Democrats. It's because this
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  Speaker 1: administration is crooked and something's really wrong with the president.
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  Speaker 1: He's a crook. OK, there's an evil orange man person
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  Speaker 1: who's going to have their ideas, thoughts and decision making
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  Speaker 1: twisted because of one guy saying, who is president of
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  Speaker 1: the United States of America, as opposed to considering the
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  Speaker 1: state in which they sit, like a gubernatorial race where, well,
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  Speaker 1: Ramaswamy or Acton aren't going to have that same level
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  Speaker 1: of impact across this nation. But evil orange man, bad ergo,
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  Speaker 1: Amy Acton gets my vote. You have to run into
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  Speaker 1: people like that when you're knocking doors. What is the
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  Speaker 1: response from AFP when you obviously are dealing with someone
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  Speaker 1: who is not going to have that same level of impact?
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  Speaker 1: who is so shallow and lacking in critical thinking skills
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  Speaker 1: as to go down this path when it is definitely
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  Speaker 1: going to be in their best or their their uh
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  Speaker 1: not in their best interest.
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  Speaker 3: Donovan One of the things I'll typically ask when that
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  Speaker 3: comes up is, and I'm voting Democrat this year, and
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  Speaker 3: I've said this, have you voted Republican before, or are
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  Speaker 3: you a straight-line party voter? And they'll say, no, I'm
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  Speaker 3: an independent.
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  Speaker 2: I like to vet my candidates based.
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  Speaker 3: On the issues. And I say, all right, well, what
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  Speaker 3: issues matter? And you just sort of work through that. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say– people don't like to admit.
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  Speaker 2: When they're wrong, Brian, right? I'm guilty of that. Just
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  Speaker 2: ask my wife, right? Right.
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  Speaker 3: The part of the goal, right, is that we don't
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  Speaker 3: just go to one person's house one time. We try
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  Speaker 3: to have two, and if we can, three interactions with
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  Speaker 3: a voter throughout the full election cycle. And so part
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  Speaker 3: of it, when we get that, what I look at
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  Speaker 3: it as, at least for me personally, is beginning to
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  Speaker 3: plant those seeds of, hey, if you really are an
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  Speaker 3: independent voter, if you really are concerned about the direction
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  Speaker 3: of our country … Why would you vote for a
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  Speaker 3: candidate like Sherrod Brown, who has spent 20 years in Washington, D.C.
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  Speaker 3: as a senator, 50-year political career.
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  Speaker 2: When what you've said, Mr. and Mrs.
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  Speaker 3: Voter, is that you are frustrated with the direction the
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  Speaker 3: country has been going for the last several years, and
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  Speaker 3: you want to chart a new course? So beginning to
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  Speaker 3: plant those seeds, connect those dots, we may not win
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  Speaker 3: somebody off one conversation, right?
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  Speaker 2: But it's that consistent engagement and having those conversations.
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  Speaker 3: I was just in a neighborhood I was in two
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  Speaker 3: years ago in Lexington, Ohio, Richland County, Ohio, going back
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  Speaker 3: to similar houses I remember walking and knocking and talking
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  Speaker 3: to two years ago. So I think it's that consistent
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  Speaker 3: pressure and engagement that helps ultimately move those folks, even
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  Speaker 3: if we can't get a human to be non-human and
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  Speaker 3: actually change. I admit they're wrong right there on their
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  Speaker 3: front porch with us over a 10, 15-minute conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I suspect that those who are planning on a
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  Speaker 1: protest vote because of, you know, Donald Trump or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: they seem to me to be a group of people
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  Speaker 1: that might be less inclined to go vote. They're not
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  Speaker 1: motivated by a particular platform. They're not motivated by the
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  Speaker 1: brilliance of a particular candidate and a faith that that
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  Speaker 1: candidate is actually so much better. It's just this anger.
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  Speaker 1: And I just get the sense that I don't see
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  Speaker 1: that translating into, you know, a desire to actually go
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  Speaker 1: out and do it. Maybe less of a desire anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Your reaction?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's right too.
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  Speaker 3: And the other thing that I think has begun to
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  Speaker 3: neutralize those folks who are just anti-Trump for whatever reasons
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  Speaker 3: it might be or anti-Republican at the moment is socialism,
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  Speaker 3: reminding them, hey, there's this rise of socialism in the
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  Speaker 3: Democrat Party. And while you may not like– for whatever
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  Speaker 3: reasons Republicans are doing right now, do you really want
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  Speaker 3: to hand the reins of socialism?
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  Speaker 2: Power over to a group of folks who have.
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  Speaker 3: A radical agenda that will dramatically transform our country, not
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  Speaker 3: in a good way, right?
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  Speaker 2: That also, Brian, is.
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  Speaker 3: A message that's permeating, and it's something that we clued
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  Speaker 3: in on in August and have been driving home. And again,
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  Speaker 3: you can see, again, someone may not admit that they're
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  Speaker 3: changing their vote that moment, and they're all in on
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  Speaker 3: the GOP, right?
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  Speaker 2: But what we.
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  Speaker 3: See that do, I've seen it in people's eyes, they're
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  Speaker 3: thinking about that.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, well, wait a minute. I don't like that either.
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  Speaker 3: And I think, you know, that socialism message that's taken
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  Speaker 3: over the Democrat Party is one of the things that's
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  Speaker 3: having a tangible impact in this race as well.
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  Speaker 1: All right, real quick here. Some suggested, you know, let's
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  Speaker 1: say the polling is all skewed and wrong, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's done intentionally to give the Democrats the appearance of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, having an overwhelming victory anticipated in November for
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  Speaker 1: the purposes of taking the wind out of the sails
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  Speaker 1: of otherwise, you know, devout Republican voters, or maybe slightly
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  Speaker 1: disgruntled Republican voters, listen, you guys don't even bother because
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  Speaker 1: it's not worth your effort. We're going to take this thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be a deluge, according to James Carville
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  Speaker 1: the other day. And I guess I want to, do
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  Speaker 1: you get a sense from Republican voters, people who are
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  Speaker 1: clearly Republican, not wavering ones, that the wind has been
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  Speaker 1: knocked out of their sails, that they're not motivated to vote,
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  Speaker 1: otherwise they would be? Any sense of that as you
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  Speaker 1: knock doors?
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  Speaker 3: I think we see a little bit of that, and
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  Speaker 3: it's just with the cycle. We saw it even after–
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  Speaker 3: shortly after Trump– no, the 2024 victory where Republicans took over.
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  Speaker 3: There's this sense among voters of like, well, no, I
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  Speaker 3: did my civic duty.
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  Speaker 2: I voted.
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  Speaker 3: I put the right people in power, and now I
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  Speaker 3: can sit back and I don't need to do anything
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  Speaker 3: else for another four years until the next presidential election.
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  Speaker 3: To me, that's one of the biggest– apathy factors that
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  Speaker 3: we have to overcome is no, no, no, no. You
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  Speaker 3: still have to go vote midterm elections. The legislature, right?
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  Speaker 3: Congress are the actual people who pass laws. If we
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  Speaker 3: don't send the right people to Washington to represent us,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter who the president is because those are
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  Speaker 3: the folks who pass the laws and make the rules
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  Speaker 3: that run this country. And so I think that's, to me,
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  Speaker 3: has been the biggest apathy factor is there's just folks
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  Speaker 3: who say, I only vote for the president. Well, we
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  Speaker 3: got to get those folks out to vote in the
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  Speaker 3: midterms as well.
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  Speaker 1: And each and every one of my listeners can help
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  Speaker 1: in that process by talking to your neighbors, encouraging them
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  Speaker 1: to vote, picking up your friends and neighbors, take them
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: to the poll, maybe go out and have lunch and
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: vote at the same time. A reason to get up
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: off the couch and, well, save us from the far left.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a disaster if they take over, Donovan,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: and I just hope that message gets out loud and
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: clear before November or by next week when you can
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: start voting. Right, Donovan?
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: Make a plan. You've got 30 days to do it, folks.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: Put it on the calendar. Like Brian said, get a
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: cup of coffee, go out and have a lunch, stay
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: with a friend or something, cast your ballot, get it done,
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: bank the vote, and do your part in.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: The civic process.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: And take action. Get over to BuckeyeBlueprint.com, learn how you
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: can do that, and be part of the solution. Thanks
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: again to AFP and you, Donovan Neal, for all that
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: you're doing. We'll talk again next week.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Talk soon, Brian. Thanks, man.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: It's 749 right now, 55K or CBD.