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No Dribble EXTRA: A Conversation with Anika Wells · No Dribble

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to a DM podcast.
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  Speaker 2: We'll try to keep it as nice as we can,
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  Speaker 2: but you might hear the occasional swear word in No
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  Speaker 2: Dribble Don't tell Mom Hello, and welcome to No Dribble Extra.
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  Speaker 2: This is the exciting series where Liz and I, because
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  Speaker 2: Cox is busy, get to talk to these amazing women
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  Speaker 2: from around the country who are in positions of influence
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  Speaker 2: for our sport. Now today we are, in fact talking
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  Speaker 2: to the woman in the highest position of influence for
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  Speaker 2: our sport, Anika Wells, who is the current Federal Minister
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  Speaker 2: for Sport. Also age care, but we don't talk so
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  Speaker 2: much about that. But yes, welcome to No Drible Extra,
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  Speaker 2: Minister Anika Wells.
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  Speaker 1: Much a pleasure to be with you.
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  Speaker 2: And another Queenslander too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you two are going to start off
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  Speaker 3: on this whole thing about how good it is to
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  Speaker 3: be Queensland under six foot on this podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Oh hang on, how tall are you on five eight?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's still tall. I'm five to two,
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  Speaker 2: Oh god, Liz, and you I'm six foot freakish. Oh
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  Speaker 2: sorry six.
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  Speaker 3: Fo Yeah, the we'd tall lady, and Oka is so
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  Speaker 3: good to have you here. Particularly given your position as
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  Speaker 3: the Minister for Sport, and I want to sort of
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  Speaker 3: explore the background, your sporting background, because if you're going
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  Speaker 3: to have this massive job, you've got to have a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of background of it. So I know that
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  Speaker 3: you played netball for years as a kid. I've seen
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  Speaker 3: you at sun Corps Super Netball games with your daughter,
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  Speaker 3: so no, you're a netball fan. But I want to
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  Speaker 3: talk about you playing the game. And the first thing
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  Speaker 3: we need to do is to try and guess what
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  Speaker 3: position you played. So I'm going to ask you a
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  Speaker 3: couple of questions and we'll see how we go with
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  Speaker 3: this one. I'm a bit nervous.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited to reveal by secrets.
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  Speaker 3: That's it, ladies and gentlemen. You've heard it here first
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  Speaker 3: on No Dribble, all the secrets about AKA Wels. Okay, So, Minister,
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  Speaker 3: when you have when you're out for dinner with friends
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  Speaker 3: or catch up with friends, do you do the organizing
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  Speaker 3: or do you get organized?
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  Speaker 1: I don't go after dinner with friends because my job
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  Speaker 1: it's twenty four cents, but when I do get to now,
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  Speaker 1: my best friend does it for me. But in before
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  Speaker 1: I got elected, I.
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  Speaker 3: Did it oh, okay, there's a little bit of like
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  Speaker 3: each way. Bet there isn't it. Okay, So you get
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  Speaker 3: led and you used to be the leader in that regard. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: before you became a politician. What job did you do?
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  Speaker 1: I was a lawyer.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, this is giving heavy defense vibes here. Okay. And
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  Speaker 3: finally this could be a bit controversial, but lip gloss
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  Speaker 3: or lipstick stick?
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  Speaker 1: Lipstick?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, this is heavy defensive vibe. I reckon, you played
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  Speaker 3: in the back end of the court, but you're sort
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  Speaker 3: of throwing me off a little bit with the fact
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  Speaker 3: that you used to organize social get togethers and now
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  Speaker 3: you be all the eye. So that sort of says
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  Speaker 3: to me that you I think you're heavily defense, but
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  Speaker 3: you can adapt. How does that sound on my close?
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  Speaker 1: You are very close, You're very close. I played all
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  Speaker 1: the positions. Ah eight years of Nettie. But in the
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  Speaker 1: two grand finals that we played as Bluebirds and mgreg
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  Speaker 1: I played bluebirds.
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  Speaker 2: What I'm knows this is amazing. I went to McGregor
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  Speaker 2: Primary school and I played bluebirds.
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  Speaker 1: Snack, I played bluebirds too.
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  Speaker 2: Coming home amazing. Anyway, I've just cut across the great
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  Speaker 2: reveal of this That's what I do. Also is turn
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  Speaker 2: every conversation. I'm sorry, no, I know that. Wow, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just I'm just in shock. But let's go, let's hear it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. So the two Grand finals.
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  Speaker 1: So at McGregor Nepel Association, I was with the Bluebirds
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  Speaker 1: both Grand Finals, up against Aces, who were our nemeses.
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  Speaker 1: They had black skirts, they had aces like in carts
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  Speaker 1: on their apollos. Bluebirds we had a beautiful metallic blue
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  Speaker 1: skirt that was the envy of the courts, and we
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  Speaker 1: had like a lovely sky blue collared sort of holographic
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  Speaker 1: blue top bluebird on it. Obviously, I played for a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years and then now Halcion years. Two Grand Finals,
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  Speaker 1: runner up the first year, premiers the next. And one
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  Speaker 1: of those core memories for me was I was up
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  Speaker 1: against a girl named Sophie from Aces. Sophie had it all,
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  Speaker 1: she had beautiful, straight blonde hair. Sophie went to a
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  Speaker 1: rival school, so it was very nice and at a
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  Speaker 1: critical moment we were both running out for the past
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  Speaker 1: and we had a perfectly legal tussle for which I
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  Speaker 1: suffered no recrimination, but we fell and when we stood up,
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  Speaker 1: Sophie's peaky was bent at a nineteen degree angle, and
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  Speaker 1: I'll never forget looking at it because at the same
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  Speaker 1: time she looked at it, and then she looked at
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  Speaker 1: it and there was this beat and then she screamed
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  Speaker 1: and Dan ran onto court and Sophie's bundled off for
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  Speaker 1: the ice fan and we went, yay, I have a
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  Speaker 1: more position where you're playing when you want to GD yay.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, that's outing.
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  Speaker 1: Although I do love shooting.
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  Speaker 3: Goals, okay, hence the fat goal, and.
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  Speaker 1: I love to get an intercept, and I think it's
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  Speaker 1: the same same glory seeking vibe, isn't it Love an intercept.
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  Speaker 3: Yea, love a goal? Yeah, and GD. You do a
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  Speaker 3: lot of attacking, you know, so you're still you're still
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  Speaker 3: you're getting the beginner set. You can totally love yourself
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  Speaker 3: for your defense, your parents and then you're bringing the
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  Speaker 3: ball down court and piffing it into the shooters.
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  Speaker 1: You're the hardware department through the middle.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's excellent. Very defense.
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  Speaker 1: I have observed that now Liza's Chair of Netball Australia,
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  Speaker 1: there is bit of a defense stitch up going on
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  Speaker 1: in key leadership positions across Netball Australia. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: the shooters should be on alert that there is stuck
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  Speaker 1: out happening.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, they would be on alert, but they're too busy
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  Speaker 3: doing their goal their lip gloss, so you know that's
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  Speaker 3: okay while they're doing this class and looking out standing. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: Stacy West is a goalkeeper. She's the CEO in Kath
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  Speaker 3: Harvey Williams. Of course, the see our Vampa. She's a
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  Speaker 3: defender myself. Yeah, I think you're correct.
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  Speaker 2: I honestly don't know how you get anything done without
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  Speaker 2: any mid quarters.
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  Speaker 3: Though of course you'd say that, I would say that.
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  Speaker 2: So I will tell you that when I was at Bluebirds,
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  Speaker 2: we did not have an attractive uniform. It was a
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  Speaker 2: very heavy cotton, pale blue, just that very standard netball dress.
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  Speaker 2: There was nothing. There was no holograms, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: think the holograms had even been invented then. Perhaps they had.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so you were there in the glory days.
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  Speaker 2: Clearly from a fashion perspective, I should era. I've got
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  Speaker 2: the one photo I have of me playing for Bluebirds.
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  Speaker 2: I was playing I think it was shooter, which is absurd,
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  Speaker 2: but and that whole area behind I think what it
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  Speaker 2: was what's now Sunnybank Plaza was just red dirt hills
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  Speaker 2: and we used to go and ride our bikes there,
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  Speaker 2: which is probably not safe, but it was the early eighties.
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  Speaker 2: Things were different. Okay, So we have a I'm not
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  Speaker 2: clear we've got another gold offense on her hands here.
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  Speaker 3: That's sweet.
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  Speaker 2: And let me lift the veil a little bit on
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  Speaker 2: no dribble extra and Liz Ellis's magical gift for picking
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  Speaker 2: positions here this one she had no idea what she
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  Speaker 2: was getting herself in for. Sometimes in the past when
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  Speaker 2: she guesses she might have had early warning. And I
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  Speaker 2: think it's important that we reveal that when we have
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  Speaker 2: the person responsible for sports integrity in this the discussion.
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  Speaker 2: So we're quite half aasked, but we do like to
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  Speaker 2: operate with some integrity here, minister up me under.
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  Speaker 1: The bright lights that I gave nothing away.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah no, And even though like we weren't even recording
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  Speaker 3: and you still had integrity. That's impressive.
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  Speaker 2: That is very good.
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  Speaker 1: Values are what you do when no one else is
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  Speaker 1: looking nice.
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  Speaker 2: Try to tell my children that it's a work in progress.
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  Speaker 2: So Sun Support.
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  Speaker 1: Five beds, I mean, that won't surprise you given where
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  Speaker 1: we're from. And I'm pretty excited about the year ahead
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  Speaker 1: after it. Yeah, year, but look how we've started so
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  Speaker 1: very exciting, exciting days. So I think, Liz, last time
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  Speaker 1: we saw each other at the Firebirds game, it was
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  Speaker 1: a brilliant game, wasn't It wasn't that the Fever game?
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  Speaker 1: It was my memory.
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  Speaker 3: Now, No, you've done well and five Beds beat Fevere
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  Speaker 3: again on the weekend, So it must be the only
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  Speaker 3: time for us to get together at a Netple game again.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be great. And the other thing is when I
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  Speaker 1: bring Celeste, my daughter. She's obsessed with Phoenix, the Firebird mascot,
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  Speaker 1: so we always lose half the game because we've got
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  Speaker 1: to go find the bird, commune commune with the bird.
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  Speaker 1: But whenever I think maybe I won't bring her this time,
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  Speaker 1: I think, oh, it's just so good for her to
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  Speaker 1: see it, and it's just such a good crowd. It's
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  Speaker 1: just women supporting women. So I always bring her anyway,
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  Speaker 1: even if she gets hopped up on those Purple Last
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  Speaker 1: Sladies that they sell.
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  Speaker 3: It actually is it is great for them. And that's
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  Speaker 3: one of the things that I wanted to ask you.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you've got such a passionate love for the sport,
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  Speaker 3: you've got great memories of playing it. You go into
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  Speaker 3: the bare pit of politics after a career as a lawyer,
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  Speaker 3: what are the things that you learned through your netball
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  Speaker 3: career that have held you in good stead? You know
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  Speaker 3: in this you were very young when you were first
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  Speaker 3: appointed Minister for Sport. I'm sure there must have been
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  Speaker 3: some testing time. So what about playing netball has really
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  Speaker 3: helped you along here?
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  Speaker 1: If you need which I say a lot, I think
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  Speaker 1: I always I always try and think about how am
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  Speaker 1: I adding value to any situation. It's not just enough
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  Speaker 1: that you turn up. How are you adding value? And
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  Speaker 1: I think netbul teaches you that. You know, like you say,
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  Speaker 1: even if you're GD, you're running it through the middle third,
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  Speaker 1: even if you're on the wings on the circle, you're
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  Speaker 1: still the one that they're passing in and out to
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  Speaker 1: to better position. You always think about, harry to add value.
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  Speaker 1: You're thinking about how you're contributing to a team outcome.
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  Speaker 1: These are good things and I think also yeah, being
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  Speaker 1: a young woman's sport minister, I mean there's been young
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  Speaker 1: women's foot ministers before. I'm no trailblazer there, but you
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  Speaker 1: do have to establish yourself and gain the respect of
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  Speaker 1: the sporting ecosystem that you are suddenly in charge of.
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  Speaker 1: And there has been along the way what I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: you have both encountered in your times navigating the various
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  Speaker 1: personalities of Australian sport. But a few times I have
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  Speaker 1: been with my husband and they have mistaken my husband
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  Speaker 1: for the minister rather than me, particularly if we have
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  Speaker 1: our kids around. And a particular particular time I can
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  Speaker 1: remember turning up to a sport event. It was a
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  Speaker 1: great sport event. This person was a very well meaning person,
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  Speaker 1: but just the most relentless man's plainer, and at one
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  Speaker 1: point was giving me a bit of a tour and said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: here are the testing rooms for water. Sorry. Water is
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  Speaker 1: the World antiop agency. They look after the doping in
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  Speaker 1: the Australian sport and I sit on the executive committee
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  Speaker 1: for Water. Oh that's David Worse.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's great. You must have loved that moment though,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's a gift.
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  Speaker 1: It was quite early on and I nodded and smiled.
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  Speaker 1: At another point he tried to explain to me who
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  Speaker 1: John Coates was. He dropped John Coates's name and was like, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: John Coates is an Australian sporting identity. He runs the AOC.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry the ACS again, I'm advice to the President on
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  Speaker 1: the Brisbane twenty thirty two Organizing Committee a lot.
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  Speaker 3: So you've heard of THEO and you've heard of John Coates.
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  Speaker 3: That's great. You're doing so well.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, thanks, list appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, are you did very well to hold you?
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  Speaker 3: To hold you down?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you pick your battles, don't you. But usually
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  Speaker 1: my approach is if it's harmless, yeah, or if I
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  Speaker 1: think it's, if I think it there's, if I think
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  Speaker 1: there's it's about intent. You're right, Carolyn's about intent.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's great. So Liz Liz as, the chair of
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  Speaker 2: Netball Australia, believes that she has to be slightly more
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  Speaker 2: neutral in terms of which Super Netball team she supports.
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  Speaker 2: So she says she's Switzerland, but it's really swift Zerland.
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  Speaker 2: Did you feel any pressure when you became the Minister
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  Speaker 2: of Sport to say, well, I now I'm no longer
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  Speaker 2: a Broncos fan, I'm an NRL fan, I'm no longer
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  Speaker 2: a Firebirds fan, I'm a son called super netball fan.
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  Speaker 2: Or are you still are you so far above the
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  Speaker 2: fray that you're able to maintain those colors without any problem.
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  Speaker 1: None whatsoever? I felt, whatsoever? I think I am. I'm
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  Speaker 1: an open book, you know, I'm very direct as a person.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a Queenslander. It would be completely inauthentic for me
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  Speaker 1: to suddenly least summons opaque, enigmatic energy and act like
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  Speaker 1: I don't have a team where I do. There are
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  Speaker 1: sports where I don't have a team, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: so in those, in those scenarios, I guess I can
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  Speaker 1: feign neutrality, but I think it would be inauthentic for
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  Speaker 1: me to pretend otherwise. And I think for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: while I'm sure rival sporting teams probably wish that they
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  Speaker 1: had the sports Minister in their camp, they at least
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  Speaker 1: are grateful that I am passionate about this.
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  Speaker 3: There at you can take the girl out of Brisbane,
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  Speaker 3: but you can't take the Brisbane out of the girl exactly.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly right, hey, Atika, Going back to Parliament, obviously
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  Speaker 3: you're on different sides to people, you know when you
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  Speaker 3: obviously you go down there and I go down there
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  Speaker 3: and I visit people, and you know, there's labor and
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  Speaker 3: there's Liberals, there's independents, there's the Greens. Is there is
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  Speaker 3: netball or sports something that brings you together. I know
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  Speaker 3: they're a passionate group of netball loving women within Parliament.
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  Speaker 3: Is it something that brings you together?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we love our morning sport in canber It's one
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  Speaker 1: of the things where sort of a strange building everyone
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  Speaker 1: it's like school camp. You know, everyone's sleeping away from home.
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  Speaker 1: So for me, you wake up and you don't have
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  Speaker 1: three small children that you have to have to get
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  Speaker 1: off to school and early learning, so you have the
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  Speaker 1: ability to go and play sport in the morning. I
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  Speaker 1: often have media commitments and stuff. Now I'm a minister,
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  Speaker 1: and I think one of the good things about it
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  Speaker 1: is that early morning sport at Parliament does stay very collegiate.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not just people of all strikes who are elected.
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  Speaker 1: It's also the gallery. It's also the support staff that
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  Speaker 1: Work's not two thousand people that work in the stay
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  Speaker 1: in Parliament House, and everyone's welcome at different sports and
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  Speaker 1: for the most part, people put politics aside completely or
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  Speaker 1: people joke about it. You know, it's lighthearted and I
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  Speaker 1: think probably friendships and a quaint stans and warmth is
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  Speaker 1: built in these early morning sports that help, you know,
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  Speaker 1: keep things healthy when we all put suits on and
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  Speaker 1: go inside. And Netbule is definitely that the people that
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  Speaker 1: love netball look out for each other in the building.
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  Speaker 1: Joe Ryan is the government whip and the heart and
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  Speaker 1: soul of netball for us in Parliament. And I remember
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  Speaker 1: Joe Ryan, who's the government whip. We had a press
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  Speaker 1: gallery journo who was a regular netball player, but she
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  Speaker 1: was reticent to continue playing in the first months of
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  Speaker 1: her pregnancy. She also didn't want the rest of us
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  Speaker 1: to know that she was nearly pregnant. Joe said, you
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  Speaker 1: just stick by me. I will look after you. So
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  Speaker 1: for a few months she unexpectedly plays gs next to Joe,
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  Speaker 1: and Joe was GK and Joe physically defended her against
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  Speaker 1: the rest of us. None of us were any the
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  Speaker 1: wiser and beautiful, healthy baby was born, and we found
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  Speaker 1: out after the fact, And I just think that's one
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  Speaker 1: gesture to demonstrate the way that we do look out
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  Speaker 1: for each other. And you probably don't hear about that
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  Speaker 1: if you're os pol nerd and you're watching seven thirty.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. And Joe's amazing, isn't she? Like I
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  Speaker 3: do call her the Minister for netball. Behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 3: she's always advocating for netball, and.
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  Speaker 1: He is relentless.
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  Speaker 3: Relentless. Yeah, you would get it all the time. And
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  Speaker 3: sometimes I ask her to ask you for things, Anaka,
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  Speaker 3: So that's probably partly my fault. But I sat in
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  Speaker 3: front of her at the Grand Final last year against
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  Speaker 3: in Adelaide Vixen's be Thunderbirds. She commentated the whole game,
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  Speaker 3: the whole game, every pass like rode the balls, like
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  Speaker 3: rode the balls with Vixen's rode every play. She's so passionate,
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  Speaker 3: isn't she. So Yeah, she would be relentless in advocating
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  Speaker 3: for our sport.
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  Speaker 1: She is every division. Don't you worry. She's got your
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  Speaker 1: coven a.
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  Speaker 3: That's fantastic. Now, speaking of our sport, should the government
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  Speaker 3: be returned, and that's obviously looking increasingly likely at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just knocking on woods here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's an easy job. And I always I
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  Speaker 3: feel like I should be a political journalist and ask
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  Speaker 3: the hard questions. But I feel like, oh my goodness,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to ask the hard questions anyway. Can Anika
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  Speaker 3: what's in the next parliament for netball? What would you
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  Speaker 3: like to see with Joe Ryan at your back.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we've got our six million dollars for the Netball
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  Speaker 1: World Cup that we've got to deliver now, don't we, Liz.
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  Speaker 1: So I really want to see the kind of fervor
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: and magic that the materials experienced during their home World
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Cup for the Diamonds, I think they deserve that. And
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: that'll be our hundredth anniversary of netball in Australia and
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: we now have the opportunity to get the settings right
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: at our end to try and give them that opportunity
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: for their own chillies moment. So I think that's probably
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: a top priority for us. And then I also think
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Netbull should get credit for the really good work you
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: do in the first nation space. I think you guys
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: are very forward leaning on that and obviously the World
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Cup offers another opportunity to do things in that space.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: But is credit to the people that work in that
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: space in netball because I see a lot of people
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: through my office and you guys do it really well.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Ah, thank you. Yeah, And the World Cup's super exciting
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: and we're grateful for the support we've got from the
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: federal government for that.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: It would remiss of me to pass up the opportunity
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: to to just advocate on behalf of the meadow Bank
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Netball courts. I know that your own Masale is advocating
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: hard for the people have been along, but it's we're
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: built on an old tip and we've got a lot
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: of ankle breaker courts that can't be used at the moment.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: So just you know, if meadow Bank Netball Courts ever
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: comes across your desk. I know it's a multi level
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: of government issue this one, but if you ever have
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to help us there, we'd be most grateful.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Helen, your pitch is noted.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that I feel heard.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: And how do you go when people come in and
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: like they're asking for things?
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: So what I didn't say to send to Carolyn because
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Carolyn doesn't care, is that I don't look after sport infrastructure.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: The minis different. Infrastructure looks after infrastructure or essentially buildings
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: in sport. So when it comes to courts, new change rooms,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: centers of excellence for the most part, that is Catherine
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: King's preemit as the Minister for infrastructure. But what I
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: know is Carolyn doesn't care which woman in charge of
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: making that decision in federal government. Carolyn just wants her
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: new network courts. So I made a mental note to
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: add that to my mental list to cross reference with
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Catherine when I next see it.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Hopefully we much appreciate it. Yeah, I do care very
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: much though, and in fact, that's part of the reason
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: we're having these conversations is that our dribblers are interested
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: and we are interested, and we have a unique opportunity
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: with you in this chair and caring about netball so
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: much and giving us the time of day. So thank you.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Well for your sorry if you're politically switched on list.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: As I would say, very broadly than in the federal space.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: As the Minister for Sport, very broadly and bluntly, I
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: look after people in sports, So participation programs, high performance programs,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: how we get someone who expresses an interest in grassroots
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: through to where they want to go. Coaches, support staff,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: that's all. And then very bluntly, buildings in sport like stadium,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: centers of excellence, club headquarters, change rooms. That's infrastructure and
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: sits with the Minister for instructure.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: And then I can't believe that you've got the mental
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: space with everything going on in your life and your
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: work to go right. I'm going to just mention that
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: to Catherine King, so that in itself is impressive. Minister,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Yes it is.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Indeed, it's a service job, isn't it Like it's all
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: about giving your job as a local representative and as
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: a minister.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I think one of the privileges of being the Sport
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Minister is it's very rare that you are pitched an
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: unworthy project. I mean, everybody loves sport. Everybody's trying to
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: do good things in sport. Everybody needs more resources to
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: do more good things for their patch of sport, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: we love that. It's just a question of where we
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: spend federal tax payer money and whether at the end
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: of the day, federal taxpayers will consider that value against
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: all the competing priorities.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Fantastic. Now, look, I think we've gone softball long enough
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: in this discussion and it is time for things to
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: get a bit a bit hairy for you. I'm afraid.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: I know you can handle it, but we are now
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: going to enter Coxy's hot box.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I gave birth to twins in parliament. So give
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: me your best. I'm battle hardened.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I'm ready thinker's wait, sorry, what did not in parliament?
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Not in the parliament?
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: But I was elected.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I was elected. They're actually the first twins born to
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: a federal parliamentary in the Southern Hemisphere.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Wow. That's great fun. Wow. And so you you were
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: a sitting member of Parliament with twin babies. That's insane.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I could barely get myself dressed after having one baby.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Show you what time tandem breastfeeding twin boys with the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: time crunch of a division bell. That'll battle harden you.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I'm ready for the hot box.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: This is not scary at all.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Are you allowed to take Australian Parliamentarians allowed to take
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: breastfeeding babies into the chamber?
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes we are. And I also once took the
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: entire twin pram onto the floor of the House for
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: reps because I got caught in a lift during a
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: division so by the time I got out of the lyft,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't have time to offload them anywhere, and one
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: of the twins was asleep in the pram and I thought,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: no way am I ruining this snap schedule for a
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: division bell. So I just took the whole pram in
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and then one of my colleagues helped me lift the
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: twin pram down the stairs to my seat.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Fantastic, verd standing. That's a right they're fighting for in
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: the US at the moment, isn't it. Us parliamentarians don't
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: or members of Congress or the Senate are not allowed
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: to bring their babies onto the floor of the chamber.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I think, in the same circumstances. So that's rhaps thurd. Hey, guys,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, I guess I've got a list of
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: problems to deal with over there at the month. All right,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: enough of that, it is now time for you to
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: enter Coxy's Hot Box. Cox. You would do this herself,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: but she has anointed me with the privilege and the
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: immense responsibility of running through this exercise. So good luck.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: We're on your side. But we're also hoping that there
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: might be some funny epic fails in here, so you know,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: consider that whether we are here, if you need or not.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Coxy's Hot Box. What's your coffee order?
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Long black dash and milk. If I'm feeling emotionally stable,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: ask latte. If I need a lift.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Summer or winter winter I alither still lived in Brisbane,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I would say winter too.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Oh is that because you get the nice hate but
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: you don't get the humidity in winter in Brisbane.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Brisbane winters are perfect. Brisbane winters are the best
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: time of the year.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: And your breakfast go to.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I do a bacon or ham and egg muffin that
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I make ahead of time. I make twelve in a row,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: and then I freeze them and then I airfry. I
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: pull one out of the freezer and air fright for
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: seven minutes so I can take with me as I go.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: That's if I'm home nice.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: And if you were out and it was not an
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: election campaign and you were on holidays and you had
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: oh you didn't have small children at a cafe.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: But this is sort of an unrealistic premise that you
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: imagine a world where you could go to a cafe
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and have one hour to yourself. I'd be on the
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: breakfast mimosas I think if I was, I had an
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: out in myself.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Standing. We haven't had anyone go to the breakfast moments.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: No children are wonderful, but jeez, they ruined cafes don't they.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Also, I know that your listeners can't see us, but
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I want you to know. I had a scrunch on
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: my wrist netball Umpire style because I wasn't at ball
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Umpire and I've just tied myself my hair up because
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I am taking this very seriously.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, ipreciate, Yeah, when you go back into a ponytail,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: she's ready, folks, a couple of cracking answers. Can she
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: bring it home? In the second half?
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: This question is funniest teammates, So I'm going to say
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: team here, as your parliamentary colleagues, who's the funniest.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, there are some very funny hecklers in question time,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: and I guess you guys can't hear that on television,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: but you would hear where suddenly there's an outbreak of laughter.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Graham Perrott, who actually was the federal member for Morton
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: that overlooks McGregor and Nepple Association home of the Bluebirds.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: He was a very good heckler. Julian Hill member for Bruce,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: is very funny. Rob Mitchell and McEwan is very funny.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Jason Clare is very funny. I think that there's an
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: element your listeners may choose to disagree with this, but
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I think you to be a retail politician, there has
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: to be an element of charisma. So there's a lot
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: of humor that probably you don't see again when you're
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: watching oz Pol in whatever way you choose to digest it.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: But even on the other side, there's people that are
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: very funny, and we appreciate the levity. I think when
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: you're trying to do important things in a very combative way.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Nice I like that. Okay, we're getting back to something
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: very serious now. Tomato sauce in the fridge or the cupboard.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: We have it in both because we have three small children,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: so we have the bottle in the fridge and we
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: have the pantry bottle that's ready to go.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's basically a food staple. It's the bottom of
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: their food pyramid with small children, isn't it? Tomato sauce
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: on everything? Okay? Favorite sport not netball?
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Oh? I hate this question, which I do get a lot.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I think it's like, actually, children, you don't have to
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: answer this one.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's like children. You're not supposed to
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: have a favorite child, but you do have a favorite child.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: You do have a favorite child, often that changes hour
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: to hour depending on what they're doing. So I think
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: that's the same with sports. Sometimes they're putting on a
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: brilliant tournament and everybody loves it, and that's your favorite. Sports.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they're handing you a complete scandal to manage an
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: administer and you've got to get in there and mop
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: it up.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: So it's like children, I'm going to accept that.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's except well, I do tell my
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: children the fact that I do have a favorite, and
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: it does change, and if they're asking me something, then
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: they at this moment they may not be my favorite.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: And they would be jeopardizing that.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, our children, we have four. I've given birth to
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: only two of them, but at any stage, all four
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: of them know where they sit in the rank. So
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: my sixteen year old son knows that he's usually sitting
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: at number four. Okay. Favorite holiday destination ah Yamber.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: We grew up from Brisbane driving to Yamber and for
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: me that is still one of the few places where
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I actually feel like I can switch off from work.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Very nice plane activity. What do you do on a plane?
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: So I am currently this is a Notredless exclusive. I
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: am currently cross stitching my best friend her fortieth birthday present,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: and she doesn't know it, and I'm going to trust
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: that she's not going to listen to this, and I'm
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: now going to have to manage things in a way
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that she doesn't listen to. Their She's a Lewis Hamilton
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: knute and I'm stitching the iconic photo of Lewis Hamilton
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: front of the Ferrari masts. But it is going very badly,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: very badly, and I'm well behind. And I've started calling
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: it my dead pigeon because I'm this exhausted, proud cat
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: that is going to drop this dead pigeon on her
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: at her birthday and expect her to say nice things
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: about it. So I am feverishly at every minute cross
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: stitching my dead pigeon to try and get it done.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: I love it. That's so much better than binging stuff.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I agree. It's an interesting mashup. Isn't a formula one?
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: And cross stitch? Who knew this? Is wonderful?
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: A crossover we didn't know you needed.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck with that. How much time have you
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: got to finish it?
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Twenty sixth of April, so ten days? It's not.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Quick. Let's finish the hot box again and let you go.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Absolutely So I was going to ask you what you're
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: binging right now, but probably nothing in an election campaign.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I sort of find it very hard
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: to I'm sort of doing comfort like thirty rock instead
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: of your mainstays. I actually just said to my friends,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: we just spent all of yesterday driving around suburban Melbourne.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I said, I am going to put Kath and Kim
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: back on and switch off with Kathy Kim. So that's
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: what I'll be doing at my next screening opportunity.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Fantastic, We're nearly there. Do you have a tattoo? No,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I am also a clean skinned. Liz and Katha are
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: marked favorite music genre.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Indie rock of the two thousand and five to twenty
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: fifteen decade.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, very specific, that is specific.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: It's very powder finger.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my sort of when I was young
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: and unincumbered and going out Friday Saturday nights, which I
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: apparently apparently everyone stools at that particular time, and then
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: that's your genre for the rest of your life and
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: that's fine.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: That's why eighties pop is mine exactly.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: No music that is any good has been released since
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: the footage soundtrack in nineteen eighty three. Just by the way,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: no correspondence will be entered into. Okay, finally, very important,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: how do you have your steak cooked?
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Medium? But I'm not fussy in this. I'm just happy
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: to have a hot meal in this job. If I'm
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: not in the protein mar running between meetings, it's a
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: great day. But that medium, if possible.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: That's correct.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Well, minister Annaka, Wells, you've done it. You've made it
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: through Coxy's hot Box successfully with dignity intact, I believe,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: and we're all rooting for you on the crosstitch. That's
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I didn't expect. There was an unexpectedly moving moment in
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Coxy's hot box. I was luck and the whole country
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: is behind you. But I think that we have to
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: let you go and get back to your crossitch. But
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: what an enormous privilege it is for us to have
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: you on No Dribble Extra. Thank you so much for
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: making time for us, particularly two and a half weeks
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: out from an election, to give us this time to
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: talk about netball and yeah, to hear your your thoughts
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: and it's been great.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Thank you, such a pleasure.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I hope to see you all on the other side.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, stay safe hanging there in the next couple of weeks. Okay,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: I'm Carolyn Swindell and by the way, I'm in Paris
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: for this one. Liz, where are you?
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: I'm in Melbourne today, so it's been lovely and I
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: think we'll find that the minister.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Is in Sydney.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastics technology, fantastic. Well, thanks again for your time.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: This has been no dribble extra bye.