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- 0:22Today, we're going to talk about concierge medicine. What is a concierge doctor?
- 0:27Now, the word concierge, of course, is going to make us think,
- 0:31oh, this is some fancy dude who's going to charge me a ton of money.
- 0:34But look, the reality is there's a whole spectrum of concierge doctors.
- 0:40But concierge medicine, this term came about because the mainstream current
- 0:48healthcare system that most of us are a part of is the health insurance system.
- 0:53We pay our money directly to an insurance company or sometimes our employer
- 0:58pays the money directly to an insurance company.
- 1:02That insurance company then gets to decide what healthcare access we have,
- 1:07what healthcare services that we're going to get.
- 1:10And we will do what we can. We end up calling many people. Hey,
- 1:15how can I get this appointment?
- 1:16You had to wait on the line just to be able to talk to a nurse who will then
- 1:20book you an appointment and you go to the doctor's office and you got to wait forever.
- 1:25It's frustrating. And once you get to the doctor's appointment,
- 1:28of course, you only have a few minutes.
- 1:31When you get the prescription, you go to the pharmacy and all of a sudden you
- 1:34realize this is a ridiculous amount of money to pay for this medication.
- 1:38And did I even really need this medicine?
- 1:39I didn't even get a chance to talk to the doctor as to whether I need this medicine or not.
- 1:45All of these things have led to quite a lot of frustration in the modern healthcare system.
- 1:51Now, fortunately, God forbid any one of us has a major health disaster.
- 1:56We get hit by a truck, we develop serious infections, we get cancer, we get a heart attack.
- 2:02Look, there is no better place than our current modern healthcare system,
- 2:06than what we have in the U.S.,
- 2:09to go in, get immediate care, and get us back on track.
- 2:13We've mastered that art. We've got that down. And fortunately,
- 2:18your insurance will always pay for those things.
- 2:22Concierge medicine came about because we needed to bridge this gap where somebody's
- 2:28just getting this intermittent care, nobody's really listening to them,
- 2:32and there's a lot of frustration, and overall their health is not really getting any better.
- 2:37They're essentially just waiting to get the heart attack. But nobody's really
- 2:40paying attention to that. Nobody's helping them with their habits.
- 2:43What to eat, how much exercise to do, how to manage stress, how to build good
- 2:48habits, how to get better sleep, right?
- 2:50How to do resistance training for better bone health.
- 2:53We don't want to all just wait until our bone is so osteoporotic that we end
- 2:58up having to be on bone medication, right? I mean, osteoporosis medications.
- 3:03So concierge medicine narrows that gap.
- 3:07It helps you get better access, better care, longer appointments, deeper discussions.
- 3:12And usually it goes without say that the kind of physicians who are going to
- 3:16go into concierge medicine are physicians who are just a little bit more patient.
- 3:22They're a little bit kinder. They have a little bit more empathy.
- 3:24If you don't have those skills, you would never make it in the concierge world,
- 3:28right? So what is the cost of concierge medicine and how does it work?
- 3:33Well, there is the insurance-based concierge care, and then there's the cash-based
- 3:38concierge care. That's the way I would divide it up.
- 3:41In the insurance-based concierge care, you still have your health insurance. Usually it's a PPO.
- 3:47You can't do an HMO because I, as a doctor, have to be able to accept your insurance.
- 3:52Most HMOs are very restrictive.
- 3:55Of course there's a ppo ipa hmo there's
- 3:59all medicare advantage there's all sorts but it's
- 4:03usually a ppo and the doctor says look i'll bill
- 4:06everything to your insurance so you're responsible for that but you're also
- 4:10going to pay me a certain amount every year to be part of my practice what this
- 4:16allows me to do because the insurance reimbursement is usually very low per
- 4:20patient so the doctor is often forced to see many, many patients per hour.
- 4:26The doctor can now charge each patient a certain amount every month or every
- 4:30year. Usually it's every year.
- 4:32And they'll still bill the insurance. You get your medications through the insurance,
- 4:35all of that. But now they can have a smaller panel.
- 4:39Now, the reality is the doctor is still probably going to only spend about 20,
- 4:44maybe 25 minutes with you. You're not going to get one-hour appointments.
- 4:48And this annual fee is somewhere around $500, and it can be, of course, a lot higher.
- 4:55There are certain concierge practices, these insurance-based concierge practices,
- 4:59that charge $100,000, $150,000 a year.
- 5:03Now, why is that? Is it because the doctor is that much better?
- 5:06Unlikely, but that doctor's practice probably has a lot of resources for the patient.
- 5:12They have an in-house cardiologist, they have an in-house nutritionist,
- 5:16they have an in-house rehabilitation expert, they have an in-house mental health
- 5:19expert, you name it, right?
- 5:21They can offer those extra things. Now, the question is, does that really move the needle that much?
- 5:27Probably not, right? Because health intervention is only effective up to a certain amount.
- 5:33You can have fiber. Once you go over 70 grams of fiber a day,
- 5:37you're probably just going to get diarrhea.
- 5:39You're not going to get any healthier, right? Once your cholesterol is below
- 5:4350, your LDL-C is below 50, you're not going to deposit any plaque in your arteries.
- 5:49But you're not going to be any healthier, right? So it's only a certain amount.
- 5:54Now, okay, so we got the insurance one, and we're going to talk about the cash-based concierge model.
- 6:00The cash-based concierge model is what I do.
- 6:04It's what direct care doctors do, direct care specialists or direct primary care doctors.
- 6:11And the whole point of this is I contract directly with a patient.
- 6:17My medical practice, that's online, takes patients from California where I'm licensed.
- 6:23Unfortunately, in the U.S., we can only practice in the states that we have a license in.
- 6:28And to obtain licenses in other states is very complicated. It's very expensive.
- 6:32And yeah, there's a lot of rules and hoops to jump through. So I have a state
- 6:36medical license in California.
- 6:38And if somebody wants to be part of my practice, I charge them around $150 a month.
- 6:43I don't take any insurance. And that's intentional because I don't want the
- 6:49insurance company telling me what I can and can't do with the patient because
- 6:52the concierge insurance doctor
- 6:54still can only prescribe the medicine that's in that insurance plan.
- 6:59They can only order the tests that that insurance company allows and,
- 7:03well, many other limitations.
- 7:06Me, on the other hand, somebody comes to me, whether they have or don't have
- 7:11health insurance is of no relevance.
- 7:13I will charge them 150 a month and they
- 7:16have unlimited access to me no matter where they
- 7:19go in the world no matter what happens no matter where they move in the world
- 7:23move to in the world they will always have their primary care doctor if they
- 7:27lose their job if they lose their health insurance if their health insurance
- 7:30changes if the whole laws of health insurance change I will always be this patient's
- 7:36primary care doctor I will get to know them.
- 7:39And for a very small fee, even though it's a concierge practice,
- 7:44this person gets access to me in a way that I don't think we just are accustomed to in the U.S.
- 7:50Healthcare system. My appointments are one hour long.
- 7:54We have unlimited conversations over text, over email.
- 7:58We share information with each other. If they get admitted to the hospital,
- 8:02even in a concierge practice, it's unlikely that that doctor is going to go
- 8:06visit that patient in the hospital.
- 8:08But guess what? if I'm local, if I'm nearby, I will do that.
- 8:11Now, my practice is online. And I think the advantage of an online medical practice
- 8:17is that it takes away the complexities and hurdles of getting care.
- 8:23You always have your doctor just a phone call and a text away, right?
- 8:28That to me is pretty important. That's how I have my own doctor is online.
- 8:33My own doctor is a direct primary care doctor is a concierge doctor,
- 8:37and she charges me $100 a month.
- 8:39And she even has a physical practice in Irvine, California, but I really never go in person.
- 8:46So I hope I gave you an idea of what concierge medicine is, how it's divided up.
- 8:52And yeah, if you have any comments, please email me hello at drrashori.com.
- 8:58You can find out more information in the show descriptions if you're interested
- 9:02in this model, if you are looking for a primary care doctor or if you have a
- 9:05friend or family member who's looking for their own concierge doctor,
- 9:10well, please reach out to me.