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Chuck & Buck 11-10 Hour 3: MMQB with Hugh Millen · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Grin and Hugh Millin.
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Speaker 2: Here's Chuck and Buck.
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Speaker 3: So you're telling me you Millen might have a thing
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Speaker 3: or three to say about this Seahawks football team.
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Speaker 2: Why they're playing right now? Is that what I'm to gather?
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Speaker 4: Yep, yep, I've figured this out and out took me,
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Speaker 4: I don't know, almost nine years. But this guy definitely
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Speaker 4: has some things to say about football.
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Speaker 2: He's got some opinions, though I hope he backs them up.
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Speaker 3: Mike Holmberan will be joining the conversation at nine o'clock.
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Speaker 3: But joining us now is our QB one the best
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Speaker 3: analyst in the business.
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Speaker 2: Hugh Millan is with us. How are you, sir? What's happening? Gang?
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Speaker 2: Doing great? All right, doing good?
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Speaker 3: Another blowout victory to discuss, forty four to twenty two
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Speaker 3: over the Arizona Cardinals. They were up thirty five to
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Speaker 3: nothing with half of the second quarter remaining. Where does
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Speaker 3: the conversation start with Hugh Millan today?
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Speaker 2: Well, I just think, as you said, domination. I think
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Speaker 2: for a lot of people they look at the score
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Speaker 2: forty four to twenty two, you say, oh, well, the
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Speaker 2: Seahawks offense was lights out defense, and you know that's
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Speaker 2: they had only had one game prior to yesterday where
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Speaker 2: the opponent had scored twenty points or more. That was
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Speaker 2: of course Tampa Bay. But you know, when you look
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Speaker 2: at first of all, the offense they score thirty, right,
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Speaker 2: not forty four, the defense and the defense they gave
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Speaker 2: up three touchdowns, one of them was at their own
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Speaker 2: three yard line after a turnover. Another one was at
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Speaker 2: their own nineteen following a turnover. They were able to
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Speaker 2: get out of another turnover at their own twenty four
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Speaker 2: from downs, Yes, there was an eighty four yarder. Okay,
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Speaker 2: we'll hang that on the defense. One touchdown in the
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Speaker 2: fourth quarter of a blowout. Sorry, maybe they weren't you know,
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Speaker 2: you know, the did some backups in and obviously they
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Speaker 2: weren't emotionally charged about that. So I think that the
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Speaker 2: score just doesn't indicate the level of dominance. But I think,
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Speaker 2: you know, just all phases, including the special teams. I
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Speaker 2: just think two straight weeks and it sets up just
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Speaker 2: an unbelievably compelling game for next week. But we won't
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Speaker 2: quite get to that, but yeah, that would. My thought
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Speaker 2: is how the score doesn't really reflect what the game showed.
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Speaker 4: You, right, and yet the game showed you a couple different,
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Speaker 4: like different sides of it. Obviously, you got whatever a
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Speaker 4: quarter and a half into it and you're up thirty
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Speaker 4: five to zero, and then like the third quarter was
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Speaker 4: very ugly, and so when you're deciphering it, is it
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Speaker 4: just more of all, right, I understand, you know, when
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Speaker 4: you're up like that, the idea of being super ultra focused,
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Speaker 4: maybe with ball security or.
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Speaker 2: Something like that. Then it can kind of wane.
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Speaker 4: Simply because you're looking at the scoreboard and really what
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Speaker 4: you're hoping for at that point is just getting to
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Speaker 4: the end of the game healthy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was an exercise in getting the
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Speaker 2: clock to double zero. I mean, I think it's you know,
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Speaker 2: if you're a quality football team, and certainly the defense.
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Speaker 2: I mean when Seattle went up twenty one and nothing,
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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk out of both sides of
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Speaker 2: my mouth. I said last week at the Commander game
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Speaker 2: that I thought, at twenty one nothing, the game's over.
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Speaker 2: You know, the same thing here a minute and twenty
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Speaker 2: three to go in the first quarter, you're up twenty
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Speaker 2: one and nothing. How's a good team going to lose
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Speaker 2: to a backup quarterback in that situation. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 2: you're talking less than a one percent chance that you're
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Speaker 2: gonna lose that game. But certainly, when you went up
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Speaker 2: thirty five to nothing with eight thirty three to go
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Speaker 2: in the second quarter, at that point, you had played
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Speaker 2: exactly thirty five point seven percent of a football game.
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Speaker 2: So so you you know, you still had sixty four
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Speaker 2: point three percent of a football game to play, and
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Speaker 2: so I think defensively, you you kind of lost some
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Speaker 2: of the intense. You know, intensity is the best ally
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Speaker 2: of a defender. Uh, so you don't have that clearly
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Speaker 2: from a scheme standpoint, Mike McDonald said, I'm not showing
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Speaker 2: anything more to the Rams. There's no point. You know,
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Speaker 2: all our gucci stuff, we we shot that in the
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Speaker 2: first quarter. We got our turnovers. Let's just play vanilla.
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Speaker 2: Let's stay healthy. Uh. You know you had twelve pass
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Speaker 2: attempts by by Sam Darnold yesterday in in Uh let
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Speaker 2: me let me find it. On October eighteenth, nineteen seventy eight,
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Speaker 2: the Jets beat the Bills forty five to fourteen, and
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Speaker 2: they had ten pass attempts. Remember that, nineteen seventy eight.
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Speaker 2: Since then, nineteen seventy nine, there have been eleven two
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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy six games. That's double that because there's
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Speaker 2: two teams in it. So two point three percent of
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Speaker 2: all games since nineteen seventy nine a team scores forty
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Speaker 2: four or more points. Okay, two point three percent of
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Speaker 2: the time there have been because there's five hundred and
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Speaker 2: eleven times where you got forty four points in none
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Speaker 2: of those games did you have as few as twelve
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Speaker 2: pass attempts. The last five hundred and eleven times going
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Speaker 2: back to nineteen seventy nine, that the NFL has had
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Speaker 2: forty four points or more by an offense, there have
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Speaker 2: always been more than twelve pass attempts. So it was
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Speaker 2: just it was just kind of a wonky wonky game.
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Speaker 2: You know, from an offensive standpoint, you you let off
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Speaker 2: the gas. You know, you're not you're not in a flow,
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Speaker 2: in a rhythm, you know, I think, I don't know,
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Speaker 2: maybe Jayden daniels injury was of top of mind, but
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Speaker 2: they just felt like, Okay, we're gonna turn this into
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Speaker 2: a nine on seven game. What does that mean? In practice?
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Speaker 2: When you go to the NFL, nine and seven is
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Speaker 2: the run period. It's the opposite of seven on seven.
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Speaker 2: It's it's nine players on one side, seven on the other.
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Speaker 2: You don't have the secondary just against the front seven
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Speaker 2: and it's an all running period, all runs. And so
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Speaker 2: you just watched a nine on seven period for sixty
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Speaker 2: four point three percent of the game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna skew the past run ratio numbers for
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Speaker 3: the rest of the year.
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Speaker 2: Hugh Mellan is with us ur QB one. We are
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Speaker 2: Monday morning quarterbacking.
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Speaker 3: Well, let's highlight that defense then, since that's where it started.
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Speaker 3: And man number one, have you ever seen twin plays
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Speaker 3: like that from a defense and a game? I mean
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Speaker 3: to have basically the exact same players creating the exact
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Speaker 3: same result two different times on the defensive side of
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Speaker 3: the ball, and then go first they're into telling me
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Speaker 3: why that happened, what took place that made that those
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Speaker 3: fantastic results occur.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me give it to you from the perspective
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Speaker 2: of of I'm a quarterback preparing for the Seahawks. Like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford's gonna be now, Matthew Stafford's a veteran for
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Speaker 2: the most better to Hannah. But the complexity of that
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Speaker 2: first one is just off the chain. Okay, So so
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Speaker 2: the Cardinals and the second one had some complexity, not
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Speaker 2: quite as much as the first, but I'll spend some
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Speaker 2: time on that first one. So the Cardinals they had
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Speaker 2: they were in a what I call queen right off,
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Speaker 2: said I. But the fullback in that situation was alignment. Okay,
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Speaker 2: so they were built to protect. But too, if I'm
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get, say, from Joe Jacobe Prissette's perspective, outside
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Speaker 2: my left tackle, I've got three defenders. I've got DeMarcus Lawrence.
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Speaker 2: Then outside of him, I have Nick Aman Warry up
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Speaker 2: on the line of scrapers. And now side of him,
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Speaker 2: I got Kobe Bryant. So now to my right, I've
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Speaker 2: got I've got Chennan Nuoso. He's gonna drop off. He's
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Speaker 2: not gonna rush, he's gonna block off. Uh uh go
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Speaker 2: off into the flat. But the blitz off to my left,
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Speaker 2: you're gonna have Kobe Bryant's gonna eat up the left tackle.
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Speaker 2: Then you're gonna have Emon Worry. Then he's gonna come
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Speaker 2: in the B gap, and you have DeMarcus Lawrence. He
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Speaker 2: lines up on the five tech that's outside the tackle.
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Speaker 2: He's gonna loop all the way into the A gap
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Speaker 2: and then for oh, by the way, while they're doing this,
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Speaker 2: the Seahawks they're playing they're not they're playing a zone blitz,
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Speaker 2: but they're clouding to one side, meaning they're they're putting
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Speaker 2: uh there to the side of the blizz. They're having
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Speaker 2: Witherspoon just play in the flat. He's got a safety
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Speaker 2: over the top, so he can jump anything that's in
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Speaker 2: the flat. He doesn't have deep responsibility, so that that's
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Speaker 2: unusual and that fact, and then now you've got on
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Speaker 2: top of that, Tyree Knight is what's called key dogging
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Speaker 2: or green dogging. So when he sees the running back
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Speaker 2: block on that side, this total overload to the left,
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Speaker 2: then now Tyree Knight, he's gonna blitz. He's gonna come in.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, in the process of this, they're
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Speaker 2: gonna take that lineman who was he's got a sixty number.
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Speaker 2: He's in the backfield. He's gonna go over to the right,
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Speaker 2: and there's a point where you can stop the tape,
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Speaker 2: and the right guard, the right tackle, and that offensive
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Speaker 2: lineman who has started at the full back position. He
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Speaker 2: goes to the right. There's a point you can stop
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Speaker 2: the tape and three guys, three offensive linemen are blocking
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Speaker 2: Leonard Williams over to Jacoby Brissett's right, Nuoso is dropping
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Speaker 2: off on that side. All the havoc is happening on
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Speaker 2: my left side. If I'm Jacoby Brissett, and you know,
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Speaker 2: Tyreese Knight comes unblocked. That is a lot of stuff
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Speaker 2: for an offense to to process. And then you know
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Speaker 2: you talk about playmaking. Uh, Tyra Knight has the presence
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Speaker 2: to just say, hey, I'm gonna get up my hand
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Speaker 2: up at exactly the right time, at exactly the right
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Speaker 2: spot and hit the ball. And you know that's just
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Speaker 2: you just be a playmaker. I mean you see guys,
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Speaker 2: when boxers, you know, and when when boxers are practicing boxing,
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Speaker 2: they have their trainer, they put those big mits on
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Speaker 2: and they say, hit my hand, hit my hand right.
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Speaker 2: You know obviously it's to you know, hand eye coordination. Well,
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Speaker 2: Tyree's Knight right in that right in that moment with
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Speaker 2: all that thing happened, he he has to be able
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Speaker 2: to have that that sense of playmaking. Uh. And so
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Speaker 2: he creates the the the uh, the turnover and the
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Speaker 2: Marcus Lawrence just happens to be in the right spot.
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Speaker 2: Nice bounce, uh the other one the second touchdown. Seven
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Speaker 2: guys line up to uh, Jacobe Brissett, I'm gonna I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna go first person. Okay, I got I got, I
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Speaker 2: got seven seahawks up on my line of screamage. To
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Speaker 2: my left, I got four guys to my to my right,
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Speaker 2: I got three. So now I'm gonna I'm gonna send
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Speaker 2: my center to the left to get the four. Oh crap.
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Speaker 2: The two of those guys just backed off. That was
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Speaker 2: was it Ocada and Drake Thomas. So two of those
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Speaker 2: guys who are online scream Jay back off to play
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Speaker 2: a zone three D three hunder zone. But now it's
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Speaker 2: an overload to the side, uh, to the right side.
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Speaker 2: And you have Tyreese Knight. He's he's his job is
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Speaker 2: to slam the my right guard and then allow for
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Speaker 2: Lawrence to loop back in. But by in the process
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Speaker 2: of slamming the right guard, he gets inside leverage on
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Speaker 2: the right guard, which the right guard doesn't want to
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Speaker 2: give up. And now Knight is able to accelerate. Now
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to third person. So now Knight
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Speaker 2: is able to accelerate and again the exact timing to
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Speaker 2: get his hand up. And playmakers, I mean you hear
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Speaker 2: coaches talk all the time, Hey, we need playmakers. And
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Speaker 2: and Knight was able to make a plane play. But
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Speaker 2: the star of the show is Mike McDonald. Yeah. Period,
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Speaker 2: just designing these plays and the and how he teaches
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Speaker 2: the disguise and knowing it's It's like these guys got
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Speaker 2: why Mike McDonald spends ninety work hours a week working okay,
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Speaker 2: and the part of his passion is is like, I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna each week, I'm gonna break down your protection and
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Speaker 2: if you're in this format, personel group, I'm betting you're
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Speaker 2: going to be in this protection and I'm going to
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Speaker 2: attack that weakness. And so the nuance of him being
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Speaker 2: able to do it, that's where I think the showdown
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Speaker 2: is next Sunday. By the way, it's it's Mike McDonald
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Speaker 2: against Sean McVay. That's the freaking chess. That's where the
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Speaker 2: game not not only is it the chess matched in
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Speaker 2: my opinion, that's where the game lies. But but get
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Speaker 2: back to yesterday. I just think just well designed schemes
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Speaker 2: and and when you and you watch and you say,
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Speaker 2: you know what, Mike McDonald, you called up the right
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Speaker 2: blitz for that protection and happens over and over again,
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Speaker 2: and and that's a lot of the reasons why you
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Speaker 2: see uh this, uh this kind of pressure. I mean
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Speaker 2: the Seahawks, depending on what cyber metrics you look at,
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Speaker 2: now one of them has has boy moth in the
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Speaker 2: top twelve and pass rust win rate. Another one PFF
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Speaker 2: hasn't no Seahawk in the top fifty two in terms
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Speaker 2: of I'm talking about edge presser guys. So depending on
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Speaker 2: who you want to trust, you know, there's put it
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Speaker 2: this way, there's no Miles Garrett right right on the team.
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Speaker 2: We can agree on that they're creating this all this
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Speaker 2: havoc by the scheme.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean, okay, then going into that a
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Speaker 4: little bit, I mean, you, having played as long as
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Speaker 4: you did and prepared and watched the video, when somebody
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Speaker 4: like Mike McDonald comes up with something that's different than
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Speaker 4: you hadn't seen before, how rattled does that get you?
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Speaker 4: On the other side, Because I have to imagine that
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Speaker 4: you prepare for what you've seen and then obviously maybe
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Speaker 4: you're doing something wrinkles that they haven't seen offensively. And
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Speaker 4: yet when they end up doing something that just completely
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Speaker 4: out of their norm, right, not usually rushing up the
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Speaker 4: middle or or bringing a blitzer up the middle, but
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Speaker 4: just all of that, how how much is that like,
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Speaker 4: oh my gosh, what the heck was that? Not just
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Speaker 4: how I was disguised, but just the simplicity of they
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Speaker 4: just don't do that.
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Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting that at all. Yeah, I think on
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Speaker 2: Monday when you watch the tape, you kind of like,
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Speaker 2: I would be like, well, f me. And then you know,
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Speaker 2: more appropriately, I think, well, you know that's always problem,
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Speaker 2: or that's Apeman's problem, because I was going to be
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Speaker 2: wearing a ball cap. But for the most part, you know,
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Speaker 2: you kind of know you're gonna have to do. Now
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Speaker 2: I started a game against Buddy Ryan, and you know,
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Speaker 2: you watch the tape on Monday and you're like, are
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Speaker 2: you kidding me? This is gonna be a long damn week,
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Speaker 2: you know, because I'm gonna have to do extra time
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Speaker 2: to prepare for all this stuff. And you know, as
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Speaker 2: I said, I hope I was able to convey to
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Speaker 2: you the complexity of I mean, the second one, the
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Speaker 2: second toutdown was was you know, moderately high complex you know,
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Speaker 2: more than the average for sure. But the first one
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Speaker 2: was just like that, that was a masterpiece. And uh
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Speaker 2: and and you know the Cardinals couldn't deal with it.
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Speaker 2: I mean you had a veteran quarterback, Uh you know
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Speaker 2: that that that he couldn't deal with it, and and
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Speaker 2: so uh yeah, I think that it's it's just something
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Speaker 2: where you say, okay, it's not just well that was
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Speaker 2: that was tough. You know that McDonald does that different
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Speaker 2: each week, right, Like he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna
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Speaker 2: analyze your protection and he's gonna find your tendency, and
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Speaker 2: he's gonna find your weaknesses, and he's gonna know like
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Speaker 2: number thirty one for whoever thirty one is for for
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Speaker 2: h Cardinals camp pass block. So now you say, okay,
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Speaker 2: we're gonna overload him, make him go coast to coast.
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Speaker 2: It's almost he's gonna be a traffic home. I don't
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Speaker 2: know who's thirty one for. Yeah, so I should know that, right,
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Speaker 2: he's their number one back. But that's a relic of
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Speaker 2: my my playing days. You don't. You just see numbers.
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Speaker 2: You don't worry about names, right, you know who's fifty
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Speaker 2: six for the Giants? I don't know he's fifty six.
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Speaker 2: You know you better know that guy. I know he's
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Speaker 2: fifty six, and I know he's really fast and he's
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Speaker 2: really nasty. Like we don't we don't. We don't use
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Speaker 2: first and last name. We just use numbers, right, So,
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Speaker 2: so apologies to anybody in that regard, but but you know,
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, uh, you know, I see see how
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Speaker 2: McDonald he he he, he finds where the weakness is
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Speaker 2: and it's really it's it's beautiful to watch. And you know,
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Speaker 2: so Mike McDonald he steps up in the post game,
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Speaker 2: and you know he's a humble guy and and and
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Speaker 2: he's you know, thinking about his players. He's got this
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Speaker 2: beautiful countenance about him. But you know he could be
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Speaker 2: if he if he was just by nature and irrogant
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Speaker 2: human being, he could just get up there with a
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Speaker 2: cigar and go do you realize how badass I am?
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Speaker 2: That could be his his press conference? Okay? You know,
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Speaker 2: like like do you people do I need to do?
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Speaker 2: I need to give a lesson up here for you,
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Speaker 2: just like how freaking awesome I am? You know, but John, John, John,
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Speaker 2: get up here, tell them how awesome I am. Exactly right.
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Speaker 2: It's fun, man, It's it's fun. I mean, you took
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Speaker 2: a team that Arizona. Think about this, and and and
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Speaker 2: you mentioned John Snader. I want to mention this. I
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Speaker 2: think for years I did these Monday shows and I
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Speaker 2: and I said, I lauded Pete Carroll for you know
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Speaker 2: what that team is just they're they're never an emotional
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Speaker 2: no show. Think of what Seattle and and Arizona had.
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Speaker 2: They both had dominant wins on National TV. Seattle on Sunday,
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Speaker 2: they had to fly the coast, you know, Arizona at
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Speaker 2: Dallas and you know, Dak Prescott say what you want
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Speaker 2: that guy? That guy's lights out in that stadium. So
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Speaker 2: they both had incredible victories. And it's just we said,
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Speaker 2: who can't handle success? Well, the Cardinals were flat as
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Speaker 2: hell and the Seahawks were just absolutely just super charged
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Speaker 2: and so emotionally. You know, for years, I frequently credit
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Speaker 2: Pete Carroll, you know, and and Carol deserves credit. But
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Speaker 2: I think that there's something about Schnyder and how he
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Speaker 2: identifies guys that have a chip on the show only
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Speaker 2: digs deep. Oh you were a high school wrestling champion. Hm,
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Speaker 2: that secks a box for me, you know, like he's
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Speaker 2: always looking, Oh you got you know you're you came
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Speaker 2: from a broken family at four stepdads and the third
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Speaker 2: of your stepdads used to beat the hell out of him. Okay,
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Speaker 2: all right, you know, like he's he's always looking for
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Speaker 2: somebody who's got a chip. And and so I think
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Speaker 2: that well, I don't retract any of the statements I
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Speaker 2: made about Carol. I think I think now we see
18:47
Speaker 2: it with McDonald and that was a beautiful performance of
18:50
Speaker 2: freaking all gas, no breaks. That was a team that
18:53
Speaker 2: was just way more ready to play emotionally. Now you
18:57
Speaker 2: can say they had more to play for it, but yeah, Arizona,
19:01
Speaker 2: you know, like they're still in the playoff contention going
19:03
Speaker 2: to that game at three and five, and maybe they
19:05
Speaker 2: think they've got their quarterback blah blah blah, and they're
19:08
Speaker 2: just it was. It was a no contest from an
19:10
Speaker 2: emotional standpoint. Yeah, no doubt about it.
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Speaker 5: The fake to walker who offers a block, they won't go.
19:59
Speaker 6: And do all looking inside the parts, stuffing shit by
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Speaker 6: what's a track? What a touch forty three on touchdowns track?
20:09
Speaker 6: Working on Tompson.
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Speaker 3: Kevin Arlan CBS on the call the first touchdown of
20:16
Speaker 3: the game right there, the long pass from Sam Darnold,
20:20
Speaker 3: the JS and the most magical pass catch combination all
20:23
Speaker 3: of the National Football League right now. It started the
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Speaker 3: day a route Seattle forty four, Arizona twenty two.
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Speaker 2: We're here to.
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Speaker 3: Analyze it for you on Monday morning. Quarterback Mike Homern
20:34
Speaker 3: will join us at nine o'clock. Hugh Millan is with
20:36
Speaker 3: us right now, and you know here we talked about
20:39
Speaker 3: the defense in our first segment. But the only negative
20:42
Speaker 3: that I saw from yesterday I'm not worried about like careless,
20:46
Speaker 3: sloppy play when you're up thirty five so much and
20:49
Speaker 3: I'm not, And it then sound like the injuries are
20:52
Speaker 3: going to be all that debilitating. What crossed my mind
20:55
Speaker 3: was Clint Kubiak head coaching rumors are going to start.
20:59
Speaker 3: Because if I'm the Buffalo Low Bills and I got
21:01
Speaker 3: shut out by the Miami Dolphins for three quarters and
21:04
Speaker 3: I'm watching what's happening here in Seattle, the guy that's
21:08
Speaker 3: turned Sam Darnald into Joe Montana in nine weeks, Yeah,
21:12
Speaker 3: that's somebody I'm going to be interested in. And I
21:14
Speaker 3: want to start with just specifically like play action with you,
21:18
Speaker 3: because I don't keep like perfect notes, but I have
21:24
Speaker 3: on play action passes of his twelve five for six
21:27
Speaker 3: eighty seven yards, four first downs and a touchdown.
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Speaker 2: It's like magical.
21:31
Speaker 3: It feels like it's automatic whenever this team goes play
21:34
Speaker 3: action Donald to JS in particular.
21:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's hard because when he's under center. That
21:41
Speaker 2: touchdown that we just played, that was under center, So
21:45
Speaker 2: you have to turn your back to the defense, so
21:47
Speaker 2: you get a picture of what you think the secondary
21:49
Speaker 2: is going to be, and then you have to turn
21:52
Speaker 2: and process and say, Okay, is it what I thought
21:55
Speaker 2: it was going to be or is it something different?
21:58
Speaker 2: And so in that case that you mentioned, Clint Kubiak,
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Speaker 2: all the d to see the precisions in the details
22:06
Speaker 2: you can say, hang a left at the buick when
22:09
Speaker 2: you're out. You know, when you're in like third grade,
22:11
Speaker 2: playing touch football in the street right, But where where
22:16
Speaker 2: you really distinguish yourself is in the little nuances and
22:19
Speaker 2: on that play balls on the right, Halse, you're gonna
22:21
Speaker 2: go with the right handed quarterback and you're gonna go
22:23
Speaker 2: play action. As you said, we're gonna fake this stretch
22:26
Speaker 2: to the right. Now, right handed quarterback going to his left.
22:30
Speaker 2: You got to get a great block from us what's
22:32
Speaker 2: called a slice bock coming from the tight end on
22:35
Speaker 2: the backside. But that the alignment, you had a relative
22:40
Speaker 2: cut split by the receiver. So Jsen is to the left,
22:44
Speaker 2: but he's well inside the numbers, three four yards inside
22:47
Speaker 2: the numbers. Agetting balls on the right half. So the corner,
22:50
Speaker 2: that's what's called inside the divider, and so that means
22:53
Speaker 2: the corner is gonna play outside technique based on the split.
22:57
Speaker 2: And then you've got Rashi Shahid. He's in a tighter
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Speaker 2: split and he's inside the divider. So you got both
23:03
Speaker 2: corners playing to the outside. Now what Jasn does is
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Speaker 2: he's gonna he's gonna do do a slight seam release,
23:10
Speaker 2: he's gonna come inside to give him enough space. Now
23:13
Speaker 2: the corner's thinking, well, you're trying to buy space to
23:16
Speaker 2: run what's called the sail route, the intermediate out route.
23:20
Speaker 2: And and so Jaysn does that, and he sells. He
23:23
Speaker 2: sells the sail route. But because of the divider and
23:27
Speaker 2: the splits, as I just described, jays On is on
23:30
Speaker 2: his out and up. He's not gonna go outside of
23:32
Speaker 2: the defender. He's gonna start to break outside, but he's
23:36
Speaker 2: he's so inside leveraged that he can break inside of
23:39
Speaker 2: the corner. Now he goes up the sideline, and let's
23:43
Speaker 2: go back to Darnald. Darnald never sets his feet. His
23:46
Speaker 2: momentum is taking to the sideline. That that that degree
23:49
Speaker 2: of difficulty, the accuracy that he had was just insane.
23:54
Speaker 2: Now if you're if you're like nitpicking down to the inch,
23:58
Speaker 2: it was a few inches under under thrown, underthrown. So
24:02
Speaker 2: here's the part about JSN. He has got so many
24:06
Speaker 2: elite traits. And one of his elite traits is ball tracking.
24:10
Speaker 2: And you guys know from baseball, you know how outfielder's
24:14
Speaker 2: a big part of who can get run down a ball.
24:17
Speaker 2: It's the angle you take and how quick do you
24:19
Speaker 2: pick up the flight of the ball. I know where
24:21
Speaker 2: that ball is gonna be way at its apex. And
24:24
Speaker 2: some receivers don't have that gift. Some receivers it's like
24:28
Speaker 2: the ball's gotta be four feet from him before they
24:30
Speaker 2: know where it's gonna land. They just don't ball. And
24:33
Speaker 2: so JSN knows it's slightly underthrown. So what does he do.
24:37
Speaker 2: He continues to widen on the corner who had outside leverage,
24:41
Speaker 2: and he starts to slow down, and he's acting he's
24:44
Speaker 2: looking back to the ball, but he's acting like his
24:48
Speaker 2: arms he's gonna go to but he puts his arms
24:50
Speaker 2: out like like a spread your arms out as willy
24:52
Speaker 2: as you can. He's literally shielding the defender, having a
24:57
Speaker 2: sense that the ball is gonna be slightly underthrown. But
24:59
Speaker 2: he's taking his body and he's widening, widening, widening to
25:03
Speaker 2: make the defender go through his body. And and so
25:06
Speaker 2: then he's and then he's able to close and buy
25:09
Speaker 2: uh that that ball placement. Uh, you're just being able
25:13
Speaker 2: to beat the free safety. He's coming over. He's got
25:15
Speaker 2: the concentration and he is a freaking closer closer. I mean,
25:20
Speaker 2: think of a guy on a fast break. You know,
25:23
Speaker 2: it's all well and good if you can jump in sky,
25:25
Speaker 2: but you got to get the ball in the hoop right, Like,
25:28
Speaker 2: all these things don't matter unless you can close with
25:31
Speaker 2: guys draped all around you and grabbing at you and
25:34
Speaker 2: coming to hear his closing. Oh my god, if he
25:37
Speaker 2: was a salesman, he would, he would, he'd He's sell
25:41
Speaker 2: like four hundred and fifty Mercedes every month.
25:44
Speaker 3: This guy has always always he's closing.
25:50
Speaker 2: And and and so uh and and then you know,
25:53
Speaker 2: received heat from his split cut. He sprints over to
25:58
Speaker 2: occupy Buddha Bakers. So just to clarify Buddha Baker, he
26:02
Speaker 2: you know, he he sees him. So Sam Donald knows
26:05
Speaker 2: in that coverage that quarters look that the safety could
26:08
Speaker 2: turn and double to that side. But but but by
26:13
Speaker 2: having that formation as you have it, and you say, well,
26:16
Speaker 2: she hates sprint over to Buddha Baker and stop in
26:19
Speaker 2: front of him, Well, that allows the defense to declare itself.
26:22
Speaker 2: For Sam Donald, who as we said, has turn his
26:25
Speaker 2: back to the defense. All of this stuff has to mesh.
26:28
Speaker 2: All of these details are important. There's not one thing
26:31
Speaker 2: that I said in this description that is not important
26:34
Speaker 2: to the touchdown. And so it's that the precision is
26:39
Speaker 2: in the details. So it's not just like, hey, let's
26:42
Speaker 2: just just you know, put a guy up. We don't care,
26:44
Speaker 2: you know. Does he take an inside stem? That doesn't matter.
26:48
Speaker 2: Where does he line up? Is he three yards inside
26:50
Speaker 2: the numbers? Or are one yard inside the number? That
26:53
Speaker 2: doesn't matter, But the lineup where you want? Like nothing,
26:55
Speaker 2: All of this stuff is precisely calcul related to get
27:01
Speaker 2: a beautiful touchdown like that.
27:04
Speaker 4: I wanted to dive into the run game. We don't
27:06
Speaker 4: have enough time to get all of that. So I'm
27:08
Speaker 4: just ask this real quick, Sundell. The center went down,
27:12
Speaker 4: Timmy came in, big drop off, similar saying, good, what's
27:16
Speaker 4: your great on him?
27:17
Speaker 2: All right, Sindell, let's very quick. Sindell is a a
27:21
Speaker 2: great athlete, now, not great athlete by you know, NBA
27:25
Speaker 2: two guard standpoint, great athlete by centers. If there was
27:29
Speaker 2: a like a super you guys remember you guys old
27:31
Speaker 2: enough to remember superstars competition, you know, made for TV deals.
27:35
Speaker 2: Mark Okay, Jason Sandel against all the NFL centers, He's
27:39
Speaker 2: gonna win the obstacle course. If if it if it's
27:43
Speaker 2: like part speed and part agility. Jason Sandel is gonna
27:46
Speaker 2: win the obstacle course, but the keg toss over the
27:49
Speaker 2: top of the the pule vault ball, he's gonna lose that.
27:53
Speaker 2: He's he is, he is the he's got great like
27:57
Speaker 2: like like that first sweep in the the like the
27:59
Speaker 2: fourth play of the game when they did the toss
28:01
Speaker 2: sweep to Rashichi heat. Watch Jason Sindell pull outside. There's
28:05
Speaker 2: a poor part where he bursts out by the left sideline.
28:08
Speaker 2: This is a center out. It looks like a freaking
28:10
Speaker 2: tight end. There's a burst to his There's another screenplay
28:14
Speaker 2: over to the right side on a on a smoke screen.
28:17
Speaker 2: He's trying to get up on a safety his burst
28:19
Speaker 2: like it looks like a tight end. He has got
28:22
Speaker 2: some feet. Now power power is a problem for him,
28:26
Speaker 2: but uh uh, you know, but he's smart. He's playing
28:30
Speaker 2: alongside his buddy from South Dakota State. They work well
28:33
Speaker 2: in tandem. So yeah, it's a problem. He's he's turned
28:36
Speaker 2: into a pretty damn good center. Uh if you just
28:40
Speaker 2: ignore that, he's got some power deficiencies.
28:42
Speaker 3: So he's more like Tom Selleck than Alex Carris. Taking
28:45
Speaker 3: it back to your Battle of the Network stars, Kamaris.
28:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can remember. Yeah, he was obstacle court.
28:53
Speaker 2: The Detroit Tigers baseball cap was flying off his hand. Yeah,
28:56
Speaker 2: I remember that vividly.
28:58
Speaker 3: Remember how Jamal Adams played lot like Heather Thomas. All right,
29:03
Speaker 3: just for one minute, because I want to get this
29:06
Speaker 3: in in this segment, sha Heed his use, give me
29:08
Speaker 3: a one minute breakdown on what you got to see
29:10
Speaker 3: from the newcomer.
29:13
Speaker 2: Well, they got him the balls and running back. It's fine.
29:17
Speaker 2: I put this way. His speed definitely showed and and
29:20
Speaker 2: you see defenders turned out of their back pedal and
29:23
Speaker 2: having declared now rasia. Now I'm going to be a
29:26
Speaker 2: lot more serious than I'm gonna sound. Those those highlighter
29:30
Speaker 2: green shoes you wore, keep keep wearing those. It's from
29:35
Speaker 2: a style standpoint, it looks good on you, okay. But
29:39
Speaker 2: also you look fast, dude, You look fast, and you
29:42
Speaker 2: are influencing guys to get the hell out of their
29:45
Speaker 2: back pedal, which declares the the coverage better for the quarterback.
29:50
Speaker 2: So his speed is a jolt. Now his feet are
29:53
Speaker 2: moving so damn fast. Uh And and even looks faster
29:57
Speaker 2: with those shoes. He's shorter, so you know, I have
30:01
Speaker 2: to you know, have to caution. But his feet are
30:04
Speaker 2: just like a road runner. And so yeah, yeah, there's
30:08
Speaker 2: times he runs a shallow cross early on boom he
30:10
Speaker 2: just gets like, whoa that dude? Who is that guy?
30:12
Speaker 2: He got there really fast. He's running clearouts. And as
30:16
Speaker 2: I said, as a quarterback, you when you see a
30:19
Speaker 2: defensive back in the backpedal, you're kind of like, well,
30:22
Speaker 2: is any position to drive top down on an intermediate cut?
30:26
Speaker 2: But if we can get him out of his back
30:28
Speaker 2: pedal and turning and running for the deep, now I
30:31
Speaker 2: know I can throw that intermediate cut and that little
30:34
Speaker 2: bit of extra speed can cause that. And you can
30:38
Speaker 2: literally see it on a tape from yesterday. All right,
30:41
Speaker 2: Hugh Mellan is with us QB one.
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Speaker 3: We are Monday morning quarterbacking here on this day forty
30:47
Speaker 3: four to twenty two when over the Arizona Cardinals yesterday.
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Speaker 3: More from Hugh next on Sports Radio ninety three point
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Speaker 5: This will be a thirty four yard drive thirty two
30:58
Speaker 5: for two today and that is the record.
31:02
Speaker 2: Center.
31:03
Speaker 5: There's your all time field goal mat kicker. And Seahawk history.
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Speaker 3: Kevin Harland on the call yesterday, I wanted to bring
31:13
Speaker 3: that up a part of these special teams day. Meyers
31:16
Speaker 3: three for three field goals, five for five extra points
31:19
Speaker 3: to a perfect day. He also made history by becoming
31:22
Speaker 3: the all time field goal kicking leader in Seahawks history.
31:25
Speaker 3: And that's a pretty good list of kickers over time.
31:30
Speaker 3: Hugh Millan is with us. Mike Homer join us at
31:32
Speaker 3: nine o'clock. I also like that Rashid sha heat his
31:35
Speaker 3: first game as a Seahawk, he returns to kick, he
31:37
Speaker 3: touches the ball. The first guy to touch a ball
31:40
Speaker 3: in his first game is a Seahawk. But Hewet, I
31:42
Speaker 3: wanted to ask you about special teams. Wise man, you
31:46
Speaker 3: know you're clicking when you get a big hit on
31:48
Speaker 3: special teams every single every single time, and coverage, and
31:53
Speaker 3: so I wanted to just ask you about the special
31:56
Speaker 3: teams overall and what your take on it was.
31:59
Speaker 2: Well, I think this is going to be interesting for
32:02
Speaker 2: Seahawk fans. I found it interesting. It was in my
32:06
Speaker 2: notes to talk about on a round table. I didn't
32:08
Speaker 2: get to it. It was on my notes to talk to
32:09
Speaker 2: you on Friday. Didn't get to it. Softy didn't get
32:12
Speaker 2: to it. So in my studies, there's a new statistic
32:18
Speaker 2: coming out, expected points Added. And basically what it does
32:23
Speaker 2: it takes a big database of all the NFL plays
32:26
Speaker 2: and it says, based on the down and distance, field position,
32:30
Speaker 2: et cetera, opponent, what are your expected points on that possession?
32:35
Speaker 2: For example? And I've I've ran the correlation stats on
32:39
Speaker 2: Microsoft Excel. They they play out very favorably, so it's
32:47
Speaker 2: a legit deal. Like for example, remember the Cooper cup
32:51
Speaker 2: Cats in sixty seven yards that was like five point
32:55
Speaker 2: six expected points added because it was third down, which
32:58
Speaker 2: had it been on first down, would have been less.
33:01
Speaker 2: It would have been less because I'm third down, You're
33:03
Speaker 2: more likely to have to punt, right, So all of
33:05
Speaker 2: those factors play in and and so expected points average added.
33:11
Speaker 2: I look at it more on offense and defense. But
33:14
Speaker 2: what I stumbled on in my preparation was the that
33:18
Speaker 2: the team that is number one in the NFL in
33:21
Speaker 2: what the NFL has in their stat portal Special Teams
33:24
Speaker 2: EPA per game Seattle Seahawks number one in the NFL,
33:30
Speaker 2: So EPA. I study it more from offense and defense.
33:34
Speaker 2: I don't reference it often because a lot of fans
33:37
Speaker 2: are like, it seems like a hard stat to grasp.
33:40
Speaker 2: But again, if all you got was this number one,
33:44
Speaker 2: it's a new stat. Number two it correlates to winning.
33:48
Speaker 2: I've run the numbers. And number three, the Seattle Seahawks
33:51
Speaker 2: special teams are number one in that stat. That's all
33:54
Speaker 2: you need to know.
33:56
Speaker 4: Wright Man, Well, I mean we don't. I'm I was
34:00
Speaker 4: going to get into the run game. I mean, I
34:01
Speaker 4: just I am curious. They end up running the ball
34:04
Speaker 4: for two hundred yards before the kneel downs, and and
34:07
Speaker 4: yet that also they ran it fifty times because of
34:10
Speaker 4: the score. Did you like what you saw out of
34:12
Speaker 4: the run game?
34:14
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's so hard to gauge when when
34:17
Speaker 2: your opponent knows you're running. So whether it was good
34:21
Speaker 2: or whether it was bad, it just it's not normal football,
34:24
Speaker 2: you know. Again, Yeah, sixty four percent of that game
34:28
Speaker 2: was not a football game. It was just an exercise
34:31
Speaker 2: in getting the clock to double zero. So so, but
34:33
Speaker 2: I will say schematically, one thing that I did notice
34:36
Speaker 2: is is there was more. Now, the NFL doesn't play
34:40
Speaker 2: a lot of man schemes. Okay, you're you're trying to
34:43
Speaker 2: get double teams at the defensive line layer, whether it's
34:46
Speaker 2: zone blocking or two guys are coming off, you're hitting
34:49
Speaker 2: the defensive tackle. The center and the guard are hitting
34:52
Speaker 2: the defensive tackle. They're trying to get movement, and then
34:55
Speaker 2: one of them is going to go off to the
34:56
Speaker 2: linebacker at the second level, and that's determined by the run,
35:00
Speaker 2: which way the defense flows, and what have you. And
35:03
Speaker 2: and and it's kind of dynamic in that sense of
35:05
Speaker 2: how now it's read uh gap scheme where you're blocking
35:09
Speaker 2: down at the point of attack, you're trying to get
35:11
Speaker 2: double teams, and then you're pulling backside and then the
35:14
Speaker 2: double teams at the at the defensive line level. Now
35:17
Speaker 2: somebody is going to go off to another linebacker, and
35:21
Speaker 2: and and so man and man, where you just see
35:24
Speaker 2: an offensive lineman not try and uh double. That was
35:29
Speaker 2: happening a lot. I mean, I'm like, well, that's inside
35:33
Speaker 2: zone and then I'd watch it the second time. But
35:35
Speaker 2: they're not zone blocking. The center's going straight to the
35:38
Speaker 2: middle linebacker, so I think that they are barely even touching.
35:41
Speaker 2: So I think that they they kind of said, hey,
35:43
Speaker 2: we're not doing a good enough job blocking the second level.
35:47
Speaker 2: Let's and and and that may be a comment that
35:49
Speaker 2: we think that their defensive line is just not special
35:53
Speaker 2: from an athletic standpoint, so we don't need to have
35:55
Speaker 2: great defense. Uh, there's reasons why that you do this,
35:59
Speaker 2: but it's something for me to keep my eye on.
36:02
Speaker 2: I'll report have a better, more detailed report by Thursday
36:05
Speaker 2: on our round table. But that that that's a little
36:08
Speaker 2: bit of an adjustment that I need to delve into
36:11
Speaker 2: on the tape study. But that definitely showed up on
36:13
Speaker 2: numerous plays yesterday, more man blocking, which is very rare.
36:16
Speaker 2: All right.
36:17
Speaker 3: In our last minute, I did want to ask you,
36:19
Speaker 3: I mean, you athlete here, you dub and have been
36:23
Speaker 3: part of this radio station for better than a quarter century.
36:26
Speaker 3: So I'm sure that you've had some encounters with Lenny Wilkins,
36:30
Speaker 3: and I wanted to see if you had a minute
36:33
Speaker 3: on Lenny for us here today.
36:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think better, there's other people that'll be
36:38
Speaker 2: better than normal. I've I've interviewed him. I went to
36:41
Speaker 2: his Lenny Wilkins football camp when I was in middle
36:46
Speaker 2: school ball camp. Yeah, like a five day like he
36:50
Speaker 2: had a college dorm, like like it was legit over
36:53
Speaker 2: five to six day overnight deal. So so Lenny Wilkins
36:55
Speaker 2: had his basketball camp for kids, but this is a
36:58
Speaker 2: testament to who he is. He wants to have a
37:01
Speaker 2: broader outreach to impact more uh youngsters. And and so
37:06
Speaker 2: so yeah, I went, I went. And you know, there
37:08
Speaker 2: was part of us we mixed, you know, you know,
37:10
Speaker 2: at night we'd all get together, you know, eat ice
37:12
Speaker 2: cream sandwiches and listen to you know, watch skits or
37:15
Speaker 2: listen to motivational speakers. But but other than that, we
37:18
Speaker 2: were kind of separated. And and as an ask of that,
37:21
Speaker 2: Dick Bard may have been the one who was running it.
37:23
Speaker 2: We have to piece together the year. But but uh,
37:26
Speaker 2: I digress. So I think that speaks to his commitment
37:29
Speaker 2: to the community. And then and then secondly, I was
37:32
Speaker 2: the biggest Sonic fan. Slept on the street to get
37:35
Speaker 2: tickets during the NBA Championships, uh uh. And and you
37:40
Speaker 2: know would go on the bus as a twelve year old,
37:43
Speaker 2: I'd go on the bus, take you know, two or
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Speaker 2: three transfers to get downtown to watch the games because
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Speaker 2: they had a program with the Seattle Public schools to
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Speaker 2: give kids tickets for next to nothing. And and and
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Speaker 2: I will just say this, I saw one of the
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Speaker 2: younger calumnists to the top five most painful losses. Call
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Speaker 2: him great columnist. I'm not gonna call him out. You
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Speaker 2: know he's great, but he just hasn't been around long enough.
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Speaker 2: The very first Seattle professional playoff team a game was
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Speaker 2: the Sonics against the I think it was the Pistons,
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Speaker 2: but it was nineteen seventy five, so I was eleven
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Speaker 2: going on twelve. I have vivid memories of every single
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Speaker 2: playoff game in this history of Seattle sports, professional sports.
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Speaker 2: There is no kind of pain like losing Game seven
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Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy eight in that building. In nineteen and
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Speaker 2: that's the year that Lenny took over. They started five
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Speaker 2: and seventeen with Bob Hopkins. They went to the NBA Finals,
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Speaker 2: lost Game seven. I still remember. I didn't even have
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Speaker 2: to look it up on the internet. I know the
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Speaker 2: score was one on five ninety nine against the Bullets
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Speaker 2: in seventy eight. And here's the thing. They had Marvin Webster,
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Speaker 2: the human eraser. I think he went either traded or
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Speaker 2: free agency. He went to the Knicks, and we're thinking,
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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, what's Lenny gonna do. He just lost
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Speaker 2: the human. All anybody could talk about was the human eraser,
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Speaker 2: So he did, excuse me. He takes Jack Sigma, a
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Speaker 2: second year power forward, puts him at center for the
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Speaker 2: seventy nine team, runs an offense with Johnny Johnson as
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Speaker 2: like a point forward at the top of the key,
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Speaker 2: and had this beautiful offense that he was able to
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Speaker 2: adapt with the loss of Marvin Webster and win the
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Speaker 2: title in seventy nine, given Seattle its first title. Very
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Speaker 2: vivid memories and so hell of a coach, hell of
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Speaker 2: a gentleman, and you know, a citizen of the community.
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Speaker 2: So a lot of other people is going to give
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Speaker 2: better testimonials on a personal level. I didn't know him personally,
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Speaker 2: but I certainly saw the impact that he had on
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Speaker 2: us and sports fans and me as a as a
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Speaker 2: middle school football player.
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Speaker 3: Excellent, excellent stuff. All right, Hum Millan is with us.
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Speaker 3: We'll continue the conversation with Mike Holmger next. Sports Radio
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