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QHHT: Profound, Weird… or Completely Made Up? · The Unity Code - Where Science Meets Energy, Consciousness, and Spirit.

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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and there's power in reminding us that we actually do have all the answers ourselves.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, because that's what I was fighting against.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, kind of like Diane, like, take the goddamn cloth off of the statue.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, show me, tell me, take me into outer space and tell me all the answers.
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SPEAKER_02: Welcome to the Unity Code, where we explore what becomes possible when we stop keeping spirituality on the sidelines and start using our connection to spirit to actually change lives.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm Nicole Pope, a medium teacher in former transformation corporate executive.
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SPEAKER_02: I've spent more than 20 years obsessed with data, patterns, systems, and one question.
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SPEAKER_02: What actually creates change?
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SPEAKER_02: These days I'm asking that same question about energy, consciousness, the soul, and our connection to spirit.
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SPEAKER_02: And no, we're not keeping this theoretical.
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SPEAKER_02: On the podcast, we're going to teach it, test it, demonstrate it, play with it, and bring real people into the conversation.
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SPEAKER_02: We'll explore mediumship, energetic, intuition, ancestral patterns, human potential, and some things I'm not even sure we have language for yet.
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SPEAKER_02: Because the goal is bigger than becoming more spiritual.
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SPEAKER_02: It's about discovering what you're capable of, using it to transform yourself, expand your life, and step into possibilities you couldn't access before.
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SPEAKER_02: This is the Unity Code, where spirit meets experimentation, transformation, and a community curious enough to find out what else is possible.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm so glad you're here.
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SPEAKER_02: Danra.
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SPEAKER_02: Hello, Danra.
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SPEAKER_02: Thanks for being back on the show.
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SPEAKER_00: Hi, I love you.
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SPEAKER_00: Thanks for having me again.
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SPEAKER_02: And just as a reminder, Danra is, oh my gosh, you're all the things.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, number one, like light language channeler, medium, psychic, Reiki, all the things, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Very spiritually connected.
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SPEAKER_02: And then we also have Diane.
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SPEAKER_02: Welcome, Diane.
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SPEAKER_02: Hello.
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SPEAKER_02: And also all of the things.
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SPEAKER_02: Psychic, medium.
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SPEAKER_02: She channels like such high, high vibrational frequencies.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't even know where to begin with this.
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SPEAKER_02: And I know you started this work with yoga.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'm just so excited that you're here.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, goodness.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So I have brought Tamara and Diane on the podcast today to talk about their experiences with QHHT.
2:49
SPEAKER_02: And this is going to be so good because we actually just stumbled upon this in one of our weekly chats that we do.
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SPEAKER_02: And all of us have very interesting and very opinionated experiences with QHHT.
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SPEAKER_02: So I said, why don't we just all get together and talk about it?
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SPEAKER_02: And of course, as Spirit always does over the past week, I have been in contact with a few people regarding QHHT.
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SPEAKER_02: Diane, I believe that you had some very validating experiences from your session over the past week.
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SPEAKER_02: And then Danra has gone back to listen back into her QHT session.
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SPEAKER_02: And so, like, I just love that Spirit gave us all a little homework.
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SPEAKER_02: Conversation along the way.
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SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
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SPEAKER_02: It's so good.
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SPEAKER_02: And so for anyone that is listening that is unaware of what QHHT is, it is short for quantum healing hypnosis technique.
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SPEAKER_02: It was created by Dolores Cannon, and it's probably best known for past life regression.
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SPEAKER_02: So bringing somebody essentially into a very deep hypnotic state and moving through experiences that are visual or auditory or whatever experience of past lives.
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SPEAKER_02: And so what this is, I know from based on what I know about QHHC, it is a very kind of rigid methodology that people have to sign up for.
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SPEAKER_02: They have to train, they have to be certified.
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SPEAKER_02: I believe they have to go through some ridiculous number.
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SPEAKER_02: I can't remember, it's like 25 or 50 free sessions before they are allowed to be certified.
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SPEAKER_02: So it is a very rigorous certification experience, from what I understand.
4:26
SPEAKER_02: Would would you say, would both of you agree with that?
4:29
SPEAKER_03: That's my understanding as well.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
4:33
SPEAKER_02: Go ahead, Danra.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, there's like three tiers.
4:37
SPEAKER_00: You know, when I was trying to find my person, I'm like, I want to go straight to the top, you know, and get a three, three-star or whatever out of the one, two, three levels.
4:45
SPEAKER_00: And so I had to travel out of state to find mine.
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unknown: Oh, wow.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
4:49
SPEAKER_00: She had like 400 hours or something way higher.
4:52
SPEAKER_02: Oh, super interesting.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So obviously, well known in the metaphysical space.
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SPEAKER_02: I know there's also different versions of past life regression or hypnosis.
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SPEAKER_02: So, and I I guess it the asterisk I'm going to say is that for this conversation today, it really comes from the three of us having experiences undergoing a QHHT, but not necessarily that of a practitioner.
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SPEAKER_02: Although I did do a little bit of training with past life regression, just not in the QHHT modality.
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SPEAKER_02: So, so this is definitely more about our experiences with QHHT.
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SPEAKER_02: So, those of you that are listening to this podcast, you might share, you might have your own thoughts and opinions.
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SPEAKER_02: We'd love to hear it over on the lab if you want to share that.
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SPEAKER_02: But this is just kind of us talking about her experiences with it.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
5:41
SPEAKER_00: So does anyone hear your stories?
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SPEAKER_00: Because I haven't heard from either of you actually what happened for both of you.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's start with our own experiences with QHHT.
5:51
SPEAKER_02: If and I'm really feeling called, Diane, if you don't mind to start with you.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: So I've done two QHHT sessions now, in part because one of my friends is a QHHT practitioner.
6:05
SPEAKER_03: And so she's someone that I I trust and I'm like curious about all of these things.
6:11
SPEAKER_03: So I didn't I I wouldn't say that I necessarily went into either of those sessions with kind of an agenda or something I wanted to achieve.
6:20
SPEAKER_03: It's just more like, what is this experience?
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SPEAKER_03: And I, you know, it's it's interesting because when I was like in the state of hypnosis, if even now if you had if you were to ask me, I feel like I was fully conscious, I feel like I was having a conversation.
6:42
SPEAKER_03: I didn't feel like I was sort of like deep under.
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SPEAKER_03: But then after the fact, I had it does feel sort of like this dream, it has a dream like quality where you don't remember all of the details.
7:00
SPEAKER_03: It wasn't, it's not all super clear.
7:02
SPEAKER_03: So then when I have gone back and listened to the recordings, I'm like, oh right, that's interesting.
7:08
SPEAKER_03: So and in both of the experiences I had I had, I wouldn't say that I had that I saw past lives necessarily.
7:22
SPEAKER_03: I think that I went to, you know, like a place that was before this life, but it was sort of an energetic feeling.
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SPEAKER_03: So, you know, I and I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't, I mean, maybe that was because I didn't necessarily set the intention to explore a past life, but yeah.
7:44
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, I also felt like during the QHHT session and immediately afterwards, I was like, I feel like this is all stuff I already knew.
7:53
SPEAKER_03: I think I know this already.
7:55
SPEAKER_03: But then listening back to the recordings, there there are a few things that I picked up that I'm like, oh, okay, that's interesting.
8:02
SPEAKER_03: And for me, like as you alluded to, I I did this QHHT session, this was just like a week or so ago, and I came out of it and I'm like, you know, I feel like that was all stuff I already knew.
8:16
SPEAKER_03: But then I did, I was doing a practice reading with someone that I had never met before.
8:23
SPEAKER_03: And as one does, she provided all of this validation to things that were questions that had come up during the QH session or that are questions that I have had generally.
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SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, oh, that's so there is something there.
8:40
SPEAKER_03: I mean, there is something there.
8:42
SPEAKER_03: There was there was some level of connection, or it wasn't I wasn't operating in like the normal 3D sort of realm, but I don't know really how to describe it.
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SPEAKER_03: I it so it feels in a lot of ways similar to channeling, similar to the frequency that I get in when I'm channeling.
9:05
SPEAKER_03: So, but I so I don't I don't you know I don't I I don't know what else to say about that.
9:09
SPEAKER_03: It it there is uh maybe we can share our experiences and then we can have more of a conversation.
9:15
SPEAKER_02: I I actually love that.
9:16
SPEAKER_02: And I was gonna pause you anyway, Diane, because I think it's so interesting this idea of hypnosis, because I think a lot of people come into it expecting something else.
9:25
SPEAKER_02: Like I remember seeing many hypnosis shows.
9:28
SPEAKER_02: I think in high school, for like our senior night, they had a hypno hypnosis hypnosis person come in.
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SPEAKER_02: And so, like, I think you think that hypnosis is something different than it actually is, because you are actually very lucid in the hypnosis.
9:40
SPEAKER_02: And so, like, that was I think my number one misconception with being quote unquote hypnotized, because I would agree with you.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I don't even know if I was hypnotized because I know, and and you know, everyone is listening to powerhouses here, you know, between uh Diane Danra and myself that are able to connect to the spirit world very easily.
9:58
SPEAKER_02: And so, to to your point, like we can always get into this altered state to connect with spirit anyway, anyway.
10:05
SPEAKER_02: So I'm not I'm also not quite sure if I was fully hypnotized either, but it really feels like very lucid.
10:12
SPEAKER_02: It just feels like you're having you're still present, you're still remembering things, you're still fully pretty much conscious, but you're also having this somewhat spiritual experience, which is just like channeling anyway.
10:23
SPEAKER_02: So I would agree with you there for sure.
10:26
SPEAKER_02: And then Danra, would you agree with that?
10:28
SPEAKER_02: Or how did you take hypnosis?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, 100%.
10:31
SPEAKER_00: I thought, oh, I'm zero percent hypnotized right now, like zero, maybe even more awake than normal.
10:37
SPEAKER_00: Well, so mine was in June last year, so not this year, but so maybe just a few months after I'd even started talking to Spirit at all, before I met you, and before I had any kind of training whatsoever, and I was in this like void state that I thought that wasn't actually a void, and I put way too much importance on this QHHT session.
11:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, like I went out of state, I got an Airbnb, I stayed over two nights to make sure that I was like energetically ready before and after.
11:11
SPEAKER_00: I, you know, found the best person I can find in New England, you know, and all of that.
11:15
SPEAKER_00: And I think I just put way too many expectations on it, also not understanding the hypnotic part, hypno hypnosis part.
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SPEAKER_00: Yep.
11:24
SPEAKER_00: And mine was three hours of interview, then lunch, then two hours being under.
11:31
SPEAKER_00: And what was really distracting and hard for me was that like the super nicest person on planet earth, you know, was the person who I was working with, and just sweet and gentle.
11:43
SPEAKER_00: And then when it went into the hypnosis voice, it it sounded very demonic to me.
11:49
SPEAKER_00: And I know that we don't talk about demons or anything, but I was like, it suddenly went from very sweet to like you know, like it was like, oh, oh, oh, not relaxing to me.
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SPEAKER_00: And so that's where I was like, this is the time when I'm supposed to be going into hypnosis, and I'm like feeling myself resisting it from the start.
12:11
SPEAKER_00: And then when she started asking questions, I was already like, I'm am I supposed to be under, you know, like I am just not there.
12:18
SPEAKER_00: But I mean, I did go back to three past lives, I reread the transcript from today, and I was surprised at how many themes are still similar, but at the same time, it was like I could tell that it I was still in my mind because there were certain questions that she would ask me, like, oh, we were talking about starseed stuff, and she would be like, Oh, so which which starseed family are you from?
12:46
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, What?
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SPEAKER_00: You know, like I don't even know what those are yet, and she's like, Oh, Andromeda Arcturian, and I just said Arcturian, you know, like I didn't even know, I was just like repeating back, and I feel like if I was truly in a state of like answering from my subconscious or whatever, that I would know, like you wouldn't have to like prompt me because I didn't even know what those things were.
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SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, there was a lot in there that actually came out that the themes and the lessons of these past lives that they did bring up, even if like the details weren't accurate.
13:22
SPEAKER_00: You know, like I said, I was a 25-year-old man, but I had two children and they were 11 and 9.
13:27
SPEAKER_00: And you do the math, and you're like, I was having babies at 30, you know, like 13, you know, so so you know, I was I just making up things or not, I don't know.
13:38
SPEAKER_00: And is that really relevant if the lessons are still important, you know, and they are still meaningful.
13:44
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, but I I fell victim to my own hyper expectations about what that was, and I didn't realize I would have to answer all the questions that I gave her myself.
13:55
SPEAKER_00: I thought she was going to answer my questions, and then later, I don't know if you remember, Nicole, I was like, I had this QHHT session, and here's all my questions that I really want to know the answers to, and I answered them myself, so I have no idea if they're right, and then I asked you them, and some were validated and some were different, so interesting, you know, they were like Akashic questions, yes, we would go to the Akashic for.
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SPEAKER_00: So, anyway, that's my overview, but yeah, I the the demon voice really took me out of it.
14:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
14:31
SPEAKER_02: I can't, I just can't.
14:33
SPEAKER_02: So good, and it that actually is a really great point.
14:36
SPEAKER_02: So let me give let me what I'm most honing in on it is the discrepancies that you're talking about, where like this thing doesn't make sense, like logically, it doesn't make sense.
14:46
SPEAKER_02: And I actually really love the conversation because I didn't, I guess I didn't.
14:52
SPEAKER_02: I think most people walking into QHHT it probably expect the same that this practitioner is gonna give you information that's gonna that's going to allow you to understand your past life, but really it all comes from you.
15:05
SPEAKER_02: And this goes back to my first encounter with QHHT.
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SPEAKER_02: There was actually a very small group reading where one of the practitioners was going through the training and she needed to do some free sessions.
15:18
SPEAKER_02: So she came over and there was about five of us that were in the room with her, and she was doing a QHHT session on my friend.
15:25
SPEAKER_02: And so we all got to like sit there and watch it while she was going through it.
15:28
SPEAKER_02: And it was really intriguing to me to watch her go through it and what the process was externally, not being someone that was a part of it and watching to your point.
15:37
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of interview.
15:39
SPEAKER_02: There is an excessive amount of interview, and then I think to go into hypnosis is 30 to 45 minutes of just like talking in a consistent pace and talking, and you're in the clouds and you're in the clouds.
15:53
SPEAKER_02: So it was really interesting to be somebody that watched it, and it was really interesting to be somebody that watched somebody else go through the process live because the woman, you know, rightfully so, she was training to be certified, but she had the entire book in front of her with all of the questions to ask.
16:09
SPEAKER_02: And so it was really interesting to me to me that this very spiritual modality was so strictly guarded and also like under this certification process, and also like the questions were like all written in the book.
16:24
SPEAKER_02: So she essentially was just like reading a script that allowed this entire thing to unfold, which which blew my mind because I was like, What where's the intuitiveness of it?
16:37
SPEAKER_02: Just that I think that blew me away.
16:40
SPEAKER_00: So, are you talking about like besides just the hip hypnosis part, like the anchoring question of like, do you see your look down at your feet?
16:47
SPEAKER_00: Pattern, yes, looking at your feet, and then then look around you, and then look at your body, and then that's when you kind of flow right into your yes, your past lives.
16:56
SPEAKER_02: Okay, yes.
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SPEAKER_02: And so I watched it and I could see that this person that received this session was had such a meaningful experience, and the woman was asking for more volunteers to continue her certification process, so I volunteered for it, and so that's essentially how I got my QHT session, and it was so I knew what to expect walking into it, but I found myself again.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: I talked about how I don't think I was fully under hypnosis, and I actually found myself filtering the answers because I didn't want her to hear them.
17:34
SPEAKER_00: Oh, oh, Nicole, that's interesting.
17:37
SPEAKER_02: So there was a part, there were two parts of me where I could see everything that I wanted to see, but there was also a part of me that was like, I'm not sharing that with her.
17:45
SPEAKER_02: That's for me.
17:48
SPEAKER_03: So that's very interesting because the second session that I had like this is part of what I was kind of trying to do.
17:58
SPEAKER_03: Like I was deliberately separating out what I I don't know how you want to call it, like the left brain from the right brain or my own, you know, ego self.
18:09
SPEAKER_03: But I she asked me questions, and I even said in the recording, I mean, I remember very clearly saying at the time, I'm like, there's an internal debate going on here.
18:22
SPEAKER_03: Let me just ask the left side of my brain to like go take a nap here because I'm trying to stay in my right brain with the imagery and the creativity part of things.
18:32
SPEAKER_03: And so I mean, I could I could hear the conflicting answers.
18:38
SPEAKER_03: I could hear my left brain or I was aware of my left brain giving an answer at different times.
18:45
SPEAKER_03: And I also even said, I'm like, okay, hold on.
18:49
SPEAKER_03: I know that that's the answer that I just gave you, but I think it might be bullshit.
18:53
SPEAKER_03: So I think, you know, here's the the left, the like the right side of my brain is let me just like tune, like focus the intention there instead.
19:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I mean, I think that you know, if you were to ask my friend who's the QHHT practitioner, like there's there's no part of intuition that has ever been part of her conversation as a as a practitioner.
19:22
SPEAKER_03: Like I try to sort of ask her about this, but it's really more about like it is the modality, it's the script.
19:29
SPEAKER_03: And you know, they they have a formula that that they have to follow if they want to stay in the QHHT parameters and and maintain that certification.
19:41
SPEAKER_03: So so I think that this is an important point, right?
19:44
SPEAKER_03: Like I think that I mean, to me, we could have a lot of fun with it if we were all sort of like doing our thing.
19:54
SPEAKER_03: And you can use a QHHT modality because I do think that it does help you access some layer of or some level of connection, like silence or quieting the busy part of your brain.
20:07
SPEAKER_03: So I think that there's something to that.
20:09
SPEAKER_03: And I think like to me, what was kind of helpful and interesting was having somebody else ask questions to sort of you know turn my attention to different places, but I can do a lot of this sort of connection through meditation or channeling and this sort of thing.
20:31
SPEAKER_03: So what I found the most interesting, I guess, is that you know, my my friend was like like steering me in a certain direction in terms of asking the questions, which maybe might have provoked some exploration that wouldn't have happened with me just on my own.
20:49
SPEAKER_03: But I mean, I think that you know, I I I think that to your point, Dandra, there's a lot of things that you can get by channeling the Akashic Records or you know, other, you know, spirit guides, or you know, there's other ways to get this information as well.
21:07
SPEAKER_03: But I mean, I I think that there's I think QHHT yeah, I think I mean I don't know, I think that everybody probably has sort of a certain presumption about how that is gonna go.
21:20
SPEAKER_03: And I, you know, I have this idea that like you do hypnosis and then you come out of it and with these like revelations that you don't know, but I think that to some extent this is kind of I mean it's you know, like one can say the same thing about mediumship, like these are all just coming from you.
21:38
SPEAKER_03: These are all this is all just information that's coming from you.
21:41
SPEAKER_03: And so I don't think that QHHT is just my brain making things up.
21:48
SPEAKER_03: There is some kind of a connection there, but you know for me, I like the intentionality of either you know, intending to do mediumship or intending to do.
22:00
SPEAKER_03: Akashic records or intending to go exploring or whatever it is.
22:04
SPEAKER_03: So anyway, I just it it is kind of uh yeah, I I don't know, I didn't know what to expect, so I I'm not sure if I yeah, I mean I just was there for the for the experience of it, I guess.
22:19
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, well, and I think it's really lovely because I think we're all coming to an agreement on hypnosis, it feels weird, right?
22:29
SPEAKER_02: And so, like walk in feeling like hypnosis might be something else, and also I think I think we can probably all agree on it's probably a great modality for people who are not more formally trained to access and experience this past life connection for yourself.
22:46
SPEAKER_02: I think, but I would agree with you, Diane, is as you get more versed in the modalities and as you are able, if you are somebody who trains as a metaphysical practitioner, if you're somebody who knows how to connect in channel spirit, I think there's easier modalities and approaches to take because it all comes from within you and within spirit anyway.
23:05
SPEAKER_02: And so I think it's a it's a beautiful way for people who are not formally trained in other modalities of this work to access and experience what it looks like and feels like for a past life connection unto itself.
23:20
SPEAKER_02: So that feels that feels right for me.
23:22
SPEAKER_02: And it's and like obviously from all three of us as well, it feels like it's okay if your brain pops into because it's gonna happen.
23:31
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna happen, it's gonna happen, but but then there's this idea of the validity of the information that you're receiving in this, right?
23:40
SPEAKER_02: And I love that spirit came through Diane with validation for you through a completely independent person a few days later, and then Danrav, by you reflecting back on the information that you received and you know, years later, and and you're able to validate a lot of the messages that you receive.
23:58
SPEAKER_02: So it feels like even though it feels like this very surreal experience, you're both having experiences where you're like, no, it's true.
24:05
SPEAKER_02: Some of the information that came through might not have been 100% accurate in terms of some of the detail, but overall the themes were validated across the two of you.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, did you guys have a body scan healing portion to yours?
24:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was at the end, right?
24:25
SPEAKER_00: At the end, yes.
24:27
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, Diane.
24:28
SPEAKER_00: Did you?
24:29
SPEAKER_00: I don't think so.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: Because that was the other part where my brain just really stepped forward.
24:34
SPEAKER_00: I mean, because they they basically went, you know, through all of my body systems, and maybe this was the same for you, but like eyeballs, they're just fine, just leave them be.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: And then it was like ears.
24:45
SPEAKER_00: Well, she's got some earwax, and then the lady's like, Well, why don't you guys work on that?
24:50
SPEAKER_00: It's all done.
24:51
SPEAKER_00: Is it done?
24:52
SPEAKER_00: And she's asking me, is it done?
24:54
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, are you asking me if I still have earwax?
24:58
SPEAKER_00: Like, I just couldn't.
25:00
SPEAKER_00: Ah, and then there are migraines.
25:03
SPEAKER_00: You're like, well, there's still constriction there, you know.
25:05
SPEAKER_00: So I don't, even though now I do light language and healing and all of this stuff, there's something that my my my brain at that time just hit a roadblock.
25:15
SPEAKER_00: Or like, are you saying that my systems are now all just cleaned out like that?
25:20
SPEAKER_00: Because you just I just said it, and I think maybe my maybe that's possible, and my my restrictions on it didn't allow that because I still got earwax like a regular person.
25:36
SPEAKER_00: It's not like magically I don't have migraines anymore or something else, you know.
25:41
SPEAKER_00: So I was just curious, you know, did yours go to that extent, Nicole?
25:49
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I feel like it did, but like I said, my entire experience, I have to be honest with you, about 45 minutes in because it's a very long session.
25:58
SPEAKER_02: I think we all just agreed, like this is a this this is a multi-hour thing, right?
26:03
SPEAKER_02: I my at some point my energy tapped out.
26:06
SPEAKER_02: At some point, my brain was done.
26:09
SPEAKER_02: I was done.
26:10
SPEAKER_02: And what I didn't like about it personally was like, I if I were to do this again, I would have a safe word that says I'm done now.
26:17
SPEAKER_02: Because I didn't have that, and it felt really awkward to be in hypnosis, and my brain definitely came out of hypnosis about halfway through and was like, We're done here, but there was no way for me to be like, we're done, like I'm all set.
26:30
SPEAKER_02: And so, so yeah, I mean, I I would say I was still in my more spiritually connected space for the rest of it, but I was definitely not continuing like that more hypnotic state halfway through.
26:43
SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, I would agree with you.
26:44
SPEAKER_02: By the time we got to the healing part of it, I was like, everything's good.
26:50
SPEAKER_03: I'm healed.
26:51
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, I have a question for you, Nicole, though.
26:54
SPEAKER_03: Like, what what's an example of something?
26:56
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you don't have to say like the specific thing, but like what's an example of the thing that you were she was asking you, and you're like, I'm not gonna talk about that.
27:05
SPEAKER_02: Well, it was really interesting, and I think it goes back to what Danru was saying because there were a lot of Egyptian lives.
27:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh and to be honest with you, I don't remember a lot of it.
27:14
SPEAKER_02: So it would probably be value add for me to go find find this and go listen back to it again or read the transcript of it.
27:20
SPEAKER_02: The number one thing that kept standing out at me is I could see myself as this old fucking man in this lifetime, like old, like skin and bones.
27:29
SPEAKER_02: I must am, and this was somewhere in the Middle East, it was definitely the desert, and I was the skin and bones man.
27:36
SPEAKER_02: And when I walked into this house that I provided for my family, there was like this woman in her the prime of her life in her like 20s, and she like loved me and adored me.
27:49
SPEAKER_02: And and it was really interesting because this is the part that felt very real for me was that I could feel that that was actually my daughter in my current life.
27:57
SPEAKER_02: And I could feel that it was my daughter, and I'm like, I know that's my daughter, but you have me as this like elderly decrepit man married to this hot young thing that's my daughter in this lifetime, and I'm just like, this does not make any fucking sense, right?
28:12
SPEAKER_02: And like she had a young daughter as well, who is probably two in this vision, and so like I can see it all, but my brain is just like, this makes no sense.
28:22
SPEAKER_02: Like, could there be a lifetime where you know, because it exists, where like the old men marry the women, the young women because of you know, arranged marriages and stuff?
28:32
SPEAKER_02: Sure, but like the amount of love that I felt from this woman as my wife in this lifetime, like it just didn't fit the picture.
28:41
SPEAKER_02: It was the weirdest thing in the entire world.
28:44
SPEAKER_02: And so there was like, I think there were bits and pieces of the story that was real because I could see myself, I could see her.
28:51
SPEAKER_02: Maybe the two were disconnected, maybe the two weren't part of the same lifetime together.
28:55
SPEAKER_02: So, like, do I feel like the individual components were real?
28:58
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
28:58
SPEAKER_02: Do I think that the full picture was real?
29:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm not sure.
29:03
SPEAKER_02: It just didn't make like it didn't make sense.
29:05
SPEAKER_02: And even now, like in my energy today, it still doesn't feel right.
29:10
SPEAKER_02: And so, and I think this is this is something that I think makes me a little bit more concerned from a QHHT practitioner session perspective because I've actually walked people through their own Akashic records before.
29:22
SPEAKER_02: So people that are not formally trained in Akashic Records but are very spiritually adept.
29:28
SPEAKER_02: I had them connect into their own Akashic records and I guided them through their own Akashic Records experience just like it was the QHHT session.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, oh, okay, so you're finding out this.
29:38
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna go to this lifetime.
29:39
SPEAKER_02: And what is so cool through that experience is I could see what they could see, I could experience what they were experiencing, and I could walk them through pointing out all the things that were so important to them.
29:49
SPEAKER_02: And so, like, I think this is the part that makes me a little nervous about QHHT practitioners, is they're following a script.
29:56
SPEAKER_02: They're not energetically tapped into their clients, and so they don't know where to dig in and they don't know where there's important messages, and and they're probably trained in in grief and all these different things that are going to bubble up through this process.
30:11
SPEAKER_02: But I think there's so much more that's available when you can tap in and when you can walk through that experience with your clients, and it can be such more, such a more transformative experience because the client that I kind of did this like kind of QHHT session through the Akashic Records, she still talks about it to everybody.
30:31
SPEAKER_02: And so, like, there's other modalities that you can use to connect to past life regressions, but this, but the QHHT, it just I'm like, and again, I'm not knocking it for people that do this, for people that love this, for practitioners out there, but for someone like me, it just it was not vibrationally aligned.
30:48
SPEAKER_02: Like for me, it kind of gave me the ick, and I was like, I'm never doing that again.
30:53
SPEAKER_02: But that's because I can access it all myself, you know.
30:56
SPEAKER_02: So that might be a very different story for the two of you or anyone else that's listening to this.
31:05
SPEAKER_00: So now I'm curious about what other past lives came up for you, Nicole.
31:09
SPEAKER_00: Because Diane, it sounded like you said you didn't, and and then Nicole.
31:15
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I feel like that I connected to I don't know what you would call it.
31:21
SPEAKER_03: I guess you could describe it maybe as my soul family.
31:25
SPEAKER_00: Oh you're a soul family?
31:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
31:31
SPEAKER_03: So I yeah, so I I felt like I definitely felt that connection.
31:36
SPEAKER_03: It's interesting because I also had a part of my session that was in Egypt, but I couldn't, it wasn't like I I don't feel like that I was in another life.
31:55
SPEAKER_03: I I don't know.
31:56
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I was just reviewing the recording and I was describing what I saw when I was looking at from the inside of these pyramids, and I was saying, I think there's light language encoded in the walls.
32:08
SPEAKER_03: And she asked me, like, how do you know this?
32:12
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, Well, I think I was in on this, I think I helped build this.
32:16
SPEAKER_03: But that was the extent of of what I you know picked up.
32:22
SPEAKER_03: I didn't, you know, see another family.
32:24
SPEAKER_03: I didn't see, you know, I didn't see that lifetime.
32:28
SPEAKER_03: I it was just like an awareness that I had.
32:30
SPEAKER_03: So I'm I feel like that you had a past life about a past life.
32:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, kind of, yeah.
32:36
SPEAKER_03: It was like there wasn't a time frame attached to it.
32:38
SPEAKER_03: It was just like there was there was something that I it was something that I became aware of in a wow, I have no point of reference for like yeah, like how I or like how you knew that was about.
32:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that that is intriguing to me that you were like consciously having a past life regression while also remembering that you were there before in another past life.
33:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:02
SPEAKER_02: See, like to me, that feels like a more natural experience.
33:05
SPEAKER_02: And I don't know why I want to say it that way.
33:08
SPEAKER_02: Because if you're connected, like to I think to Dean Ray, your point, like if you're connected subconsciously, wouldn't you be able to open up all of the entire web of your history in a matter of like just like that?
33:21
SPEAKER_03: Yes, right.
33:23
SPEAKER_03: And I think that this is the thing because I know that we can do that through the Akashic Records.
33:30
SPEAKER_03: And so, and because the person I'm working with is a friend of mine.
33:37
SPEAKER_03: So we it was there was a little bit of an experimental quality to this.
33:42
SPEAKER_03: So I think that she, and I mean, I told her in advance, like that I'm all about experimenting.
33:48
SPEAKER_03: So I think that she probably was asking questions uh more intuitively.
33:56
SPEAKER_03: And I mean, I'm sure a lot of QHHT practitioners are also like uh, you know, doing other modalities and and this kind of stuff too.
34:06
SPEAKER_03: So it's it's interesting because I think that if you're following something that is very formulaic and you're just following a script, which is what I think that QHHT sort of trains people to do, I I don't know.
34:25
SPEAKER_03: I I think that that's gonna really limit you.
34:28
SPEAKER_03: And so I think that those limitations are part of the framework of what you have going into this situation.
34:34
SPEAKER_03: Whereas I feel like that the, you know, when we do these experimentations in with you, and we're like, okay, let's like let's throw off all of the like you know, the the structures and the the presuppositions that we have about how things should be.
34:52
SPEAKER_03: And let's just like try this, let's just try to channel galactic guides or whatever it is that we're doing, you know.
34:57
SPEAKER_03: It's like I think that yeah, I don't know.
35:01
SPEAKER_03: It I I think there's there's a lot of ways to get at the same kind of information.
35:06
SPEAKER_03: This is yeah.
35:09
SPEAKER_03: I mean, so I think QHHC is is like an an avenue in, but I feel like that because I have done all of these other modalities, I had a lot more ability to sort of play around with this than you would if you were just going into this with no other metaphysical sort of frame of reference.
35:31
SPEAKER_02: It's a really good perspective because mine was definitely more at the beginning of my journey.
35:36
SPEAKER_02: And Dan Ray, yours was the same.
35:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:39
SPEAKER_02: That's interesting.
35:40
SPEAKER_02: And so because you are again more open to those experiments, you were able to see a lot more in it.
35:47
SPEAKER_02: And it's and it's really interesting as well, just to kind of close the loop on that, too, Diane, because you did have crazy experiences where your brain was like, I'm making this up.
35:55
SPEAKER_02: And then spirit came through afterwards to be like, you didn't.
35:58
SPEAKER_02: Here's the proof through another person.
36:01
unknown: Yeah.
36:02
SPEAKER_03: So you know what's interesting is the the stuff that I got validation on was not the stuff that I thought I was making up.
36:10
SPEAKER_03: Like the stuff that I thought I was making up, I definitely am pretty sure I still was making it up.
36:14
SPEAKER_03: And I think that and I think it is okay.
36:19
SPEAKER_03: Let me give you an example of she asked me something when I was talking about the Egypt thing, and she's like, who was it that was helping you build these pyramids or whatever?
36:33
SPEAKER_03: I think that's what it was.
36:34
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, oh, I think it was the Anunnaki.
36:37
SPEAKER_03: And then I'm having a conversation in the session, and I'm like, hold on.
36:43
SPEAKER_03: I think that I don't think that that answer is valid because I think that that's something that I heard someplace, right?
36:51
SPEAKER_03: Like I think that that is sort of like something I've heard in the 3D.
36:54
SPEAKER_03: It did, I didn't feel it.
36:56
SPEAKER_03: I was like, here's this is me being like a good student, and I had the teacher asked me a question.
37:02
SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to answer the question with whatever like information I have in the back of my head, but I didn't feel it.
37:08
SPEAKER_03: The stuff that I got validation from, I 100% felt at the time.
37:14
SPEAKER_03: And so it was things which you guys, you know, because you know me.
37:20
SPEAKER_03: One of the things that I was talking about in my session and that then came back in the validation from this practice session I did was all about planting seeds, right?
37:33
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, you know, for me, this is on a very literal 3D level, but it's also like metaphorical.
37:40
SPEAKER_03: That were that particular metaphor works on a lot of levels for me.
37:45
SPEAKER_03: And maybe you could say that yeah, that's metaphor that everybody uses to describe metaphysical work or what light workers are doing in this world or whatever.
37:56
SPEAKER_03: But I'm like, it you know, there's a lot of ways that that could have come up, and that was a very specific it has come up in a very specific context to me that I'm like, oh, okay, this is really a validation.
38:09
SPEAKER_03: The other thing that came up both in my session and in this sort of like validation that I had was about like the sort of the direction that we're heading.
38:23
SPEAKER_03: And it's it's basically about cu communicating telepathically and that essentially verbal language I think is is archaic and I think that it's limiting us.
38:35
SPEAKER_03: And so there was like that was something that came up in both sessions.
38:40
SPEAKER_03: And when I even when I'm relaying this, I feel that I'm like, oh, that's this is true.
38:46
SPEAKER_03: This is not, I'm not making that up.
38:49
SPEAKER_03: That wasn't some some bullshit answer that I have heard in the past.
38:53
SPEAKER_03: Like I've heard a lot of people talking about this stuff, but I also feel it, you know.
38:57
SPEAKER_03: So so anyway, I'm this is all part of this discernment journey that I'm on too.
39:02
SPEAKER_03: It's like knowing when I hear that things in my head, I'm hearing, oh, this is bullshit.
39:09
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, okay, let me just tune into this.
39:11
SPEAKER_03: Is this bullshit?
39:12
SPEAKER_03: And for sure, like sometimes, yep, I made this up because I heard somebody talking about this on the podcast or whatever.
39:18
SPEAKER_03: But then there's other things that I'm like, oh no, uh-uh, I can I know it's not bullshit because I can feel it.
39:24
SPEAKER_02: And I think that's a great way to discern it because you're I think you're clearly saying it, and I was saying it too.
39:30
SPEAKER_02: And Danra, you were too.
39:32
SPEAKER_02: Like, I think that when our mind is in there, we're going to hear it versus when the truth is told, we feel it.
39:41
SPEAKER_02: And so, like for me, that is absolutely true with my sessions as well, is I feel the truth because the body doesn't lie.
39:48
SPEAKER_02: And I love that you like you're having those moments of clarity in the feeling of it, even now reflecting back on it.
39:53
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, the brain can always create a story.
39:56
SPEAKER_02: So I guess maybe that's point number five.
39:59
SPEAKER_02: I think it goes with the brain making it up, is like notice where you feel it in your truth versus hear it in your head, which can always be a little bit harder to discern for sure.
40:11
SPEAKER_02: Danra, what were you gonna add?
40:14
SPEAKER_00: No, just that I had three past lives, and one that was really emotional was me being like a colonial woman next to the hearth or whatever, where I'm cooking in a big cauldron.
40:28
SPEAKER_00: And all of this is like what you would see on a movie or something, but that I was holding, and this is a trigger warning, I was holding my baby who had just died, and like literally attached by the umbilical cord still, and you know, traumatizing to the max.
40:46
SPEAKER_00: And I'm crying and calling for my husband, who then, as part of the QHT, I learned was my now brother, and then my son ran in, who is my now nephew, and the baby that I was holding is my now niece, so there was like that one was particularly emotional, and so I don't know how much of that was because I wanted that to be true, you know.
41:07
SPEAKER_00: Like I, but I did, I had I had a sense before that that my niece was my daughter at some point, and so to see it like play out very emotionally, and she did have to tell me because I don't remember crying, but it was on the you know, actually holding the baby and looking at it so vividly was very upsetting, of course.
41:30
SPEAKER_00: And I it's almost like my system needed to process through that information or something like that, because the other two were just more benign.
41:38
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I was killed as a Maori warrior in another one, and I was a pediatrician, a polio, I was giving a lot of polio vaccines to kids, so it was like three very different past lives, but each one of them had a lesson attached to it that was very distinct.
41:57
SPEAKER_00: So the more emotional one was more relationship-based, you know, like these are the people that are still with you, so that even though you had that sadness at that time, you were resilient, you went through a lot, and here everybody's still in your soul family kind of thing.
42:12
SPEAKER_00: And the polio guy was just an uptight guy who was really stuffy and picky around the house and controlling, and has he had a long marriage that was like not very fun, and so they're trying to encourage them to be playful and work hard, which I feel like is still a message for me.
42:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, checks out, yeah.
42:34
SPEAKER_00: And they said the first one they showed me a Maori warrior.
42:38
SPEAKER_00: I was killed defending our land, basically.
42:42
SPEAKER_00: And I they said, Why?
42:43
SPEAKER_00: Why did you show this to her?
42:45
SPEAKER_00: It's like, well, she wanted to know if she was a protector, and yes, she was.
42:48
SPEAKER_00: So I so I don't know, you know how much of that was drawn by my own.
42:55
SPEAKER_00: I guess that is you're talking to your subconscious, right?
42:57
SPEAKER_00: You are subconscious, wanted to know, you know.
43:00
SPEAKER_00: I hope I wasn't a dick in every old life.
43:03
SPEAKER_00: I hope that I actually help people, you know, and that if I did lose children or whatever, they they come back around and are still around, you know, and that's why I deeply love them now.
43:15
SPEAKER_00: So there's like there's a little bit of that that's kind of like harmless processing, I would call it, or something.
43:22
SPEAKER_00: Like my subconscious did it's like holding these unknown variables, and it gave it like a movie screen to play out on in a way.
43:32
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, yeah, so I love that.
43:37
SPEAKER_00: It's more like what Diane was talking about with the emotional piece, like though that was probably the true the most true was when I got actually upset because it was my brain wasn't working then, it was just in the heart.
43:53
SPEAKER_02: Yes, and I experienced a lot of that too.
43:55
SPEAKER_02: The big emotions were definitely the points that I think were anchored and stuck with me after.
44:00
SPEAKER_02: the session for sure.
44:01
SPEAKER_02: So the the feeling of seeing my wife and feeling the unconditional love like wrecked me.
44:09
SPEAKER_02: I was sobbing absolutely yes in the middle of my session.
44:12
SPEAKER_02: And as you're talking I'm being made aware of one of the other ones that I that I uncovered as well, which which was also very emotional.
44:20
SPEAKER_02: I I was like some nobility in Central Europe.
44:23
SPEAKER_02: I want to say it was like in Prussia and I was in a dark blue dress in this massive house and I was all alone and and I I was young I was married young I had I had no kids all I had were my two dogs and like in that vision I could see that my soul dog was one of my dogs in that lifetime too.
44:45
SPEAKER_02: And so like so I think for me it was less about I don't know I think you're right though Danra because I came with a whole bunch of questions that I wanted to uncover and that was part of the interview process.
44:58
SPEAKER_02: But I think in the experience of it what anchored me through the entire session was these feelings to your point of connection across lifetimes and immediately knowing because you you know Danra and I'm sure you do Diane as well when you are having this past life recollection of the people that you love that are in your soul family like my daughter like my soul dog like you recognize them immediately in these past life visions and you're and there's no way you would know that no way you would expect to see them there.
45:30
SPEAKER_02: And yet there they are and that's when the the giant emotion the wave of emotions come through and to me that's the indicator that this was a real experience.
45:45
SPEAKER_02: Look at you you're flipping over Nicole you sound skeptical and now yeah well I think but I think any modality that gives people a peek into their connections like their their history part of their journey and and maybe what had led them to the lifetime they're in now I think there's always going to be value in that and just like mediumship maybe QHHT is like the gateway drug that allows people to have that experience to see that there's something bigger than this lifetime and then if they choose to pursue it they can have somebody else read it and to your point Diane like have somebody else that has a broader experience and knowledge set and brought abilities within their subconscious that allows them to see or experience more in their past lives than maybe their human brain could possibly comprehend this lifetime.
46:39
SPEAKER_02: So I do think there's value to it.
46:43
SPEAKER_03: Well and I think you know I would be so interested to hear what other people say because I didn't really have like the past like I didn't go to past lives but you know I have also heard about people who have you know I think a lot of people come to QHHT for a variety of reasons but probably in part to deal with some you know 3D problem that they're having.
47:09
SPEAKER_03: And this so QHHT may I think especially for people who are not steeped in all of the woo that that we're all doing all the time I mean this may be just an awareness that other people just don't have this is maybe the only way to access that awareness awareness because maybe QHHT bridges the the woo and the non-woo world a little bit.
47:40
SPEAKER_03: So maybe that's the thing I would I this would be so interesting to talk to like you know do normal people who do HA QHT have more sort of revelatory experiences?
47:51
SPEAKER_03: Because I feel like I've had a lot more like mind blowing experiences channeling with Dan and with you than I have than in QH HT, but I think that that just and and to me so this is interesting you know because as you both know like I I get very frustrated with like doing mediumship sometimes because I'm like it just feels so like constricted to me.
48:19
SPEAKER_03: So for me it is much better to go without constrictions and go where I need to go to get the information and then come back around to you know oh you're coming at at mediumship through the spirit guide level right so and I this is maybe part of the thing with QHHG to me because it's such a very strict framework like that isn't like that doesn't really work that well with my sort of way of operating anyway but other people might find a lot of comfort operating within that framework.
48:56
SPEAKER_03: So that especially if you're not out here doing the woo stuff all of the time but you have some question in your 3D world that you want an answer to this may be that may feel a lot safer to some people right to have this very strict sort of framework.
49:15
SPEAKER_03: Whereas for me I'm like yeah no this is too I I want to like don't stop here let's go this way you know I agree with that.
49:27
SPEAKER_00: I have a vibrational question you just something about what you just said Diane like hit me.
49:32
SPEAKER_00: Because I know when we do our practice and we talked about this before like I kind of see it as psychic mediumship spirit guides akashic galactic and light language all up there.
49:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah where would QH T feels like almost at the psychic level or even because it's like subconscious maybe that's a factor for different people I mean whether you can get down there or I for some reason I'm seeing it down lower.
50:01
SPEAKER_02: It is down yes this is beautiful because the subconscious is part of so if we move it away from the more metaphysical modalities it's actually in the shamanic sense there's the upper the middle and the lower world so when you're accessing your subconscious you're actually in the lower world so it is going down yes so depending on who you are and we're all people who tend to like now that we know how to access those higher places it's actually hard to come like it's part of the practice is to like stay grounded and like and so maybe it's just not a vibrational match for certain people and maybe we are those people I don't know yeah people it's like oh I that actually is right at the vibrational level that I that is accessible.
50:57
SPEAKER_02: It's interesting because I think through hypnosis they do bring they do try to bring you to a higher vibration to connect so I I do want to I do want to say what you're saying makes sense and I think the biggest thing that I want to call out is when you are or like when the three of us are channeling together it's not just like Diane's one I'm one and you're one Danra right it we we are all one individually but when we work together it goes exponential right because my vibration multiplies your vibration multiplies Diane's vibration so all of our so our vibrations go sky high so fast which allows us these mind-blowing channeling experiences that we've all had together but if you're in a QHHT session no one's doing that for you because the practitioner is reading a script the practitioner is not connected to spirit and so it is essentially you and only you that are going to be accessing this information which of course is going to be a little bit harder for people that are newer to this work to be able to tap into and connect with which is why again they have to rely on hypnosis as the modality to do it because they have to find a way to get you out of your human brain and more into your energetic subconscious space.
52:15
SPEAKER_02: So yeah so I would agree with you I think depending on how easily someone can access that hypnotic state which is you know your your theta waves essentially is what they're trying to access your like the state of being asleep while also maybe it's more of the like alpha waves because it's kind of in between because you are conscious as well yeah I mean that's it's tough.
52:41
SPEAKER_00: It's tough well it may be Dolores you know go ahead.
52:46
SPEAKER_03: Like so energetically how does this differ then from the energy of when we're channeling because I I I mean because we're also I mean I'm not a trans channel I'm a conscious channel I for the most part remember the stuff that I channel but it often has a similar liminal quality to it.
53:10
SPEAKER_02: So what's the to me as I'm tapping into it and you all might experience it a little bit differently it definitely feels like it's within my own energetic body.
53:20
SPEAKER_02: So it feels like I'm kind of going in my energetic bottle body and like bringing into resonance certain stories and kind of bringing those up to the surface into the conscious level.
53:30
SPEAKER_02: So for me it it's less of an external energy that I'm connecting to it's more of an internal soul level connection and allowing that so so I guess when we're connecting with the spirit communication modalities we tend to connect outward to all of these different souls being energies and it tends to go outward and I feel like this is a version of it that goes inward but it feels at or slightly above your normal vibrational frequency for me at least in this current moment.
53:58
SPEAKER_03: But I mean I think that this is all still energy that's in our field for sure if we're connecting with even if we're connecting with galactic guides like this is all still yes in our field.
54:10
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
54:13
SPEAKER_03: So in in essence what you're saying is this is just a different sort of direction on the compass.
54:23
SPEAKER_03: We're heading in the QHT subconscious direction we're heading in the galactic guides direction.
54:28
SPEAKER_00: We're heading in the it's just an intention essentially right it is it absolutely is but you're definitely connecting with yourself instead of something externally like you would with psychic or mediumship or something else you know so it it is more connecting inward with your own frequencies and soul yeah I was sneaking in the back door kind of thing yes sneaking in the back door so somehow it's like yeah I see the energetic field and it's like coming right in here as opposed to I don't know if that's what you were describing Nicole or not but well it just really brings me back to again more of the shamanic experiences that I've had because it's tapping into the vibrational frequencies because I don't like I don't know if anyone has had maybe people have had this would be interesting a QHH session where they uncover any galactic lifetimes did either of you have that no but I have Dolores Cannon's book right next to my I read it every night and there's super galactic stuff in there.
55:41
SPEAKER_00: For sure and I mean it came up in mine and then they asked me and then they explicitly said we are not going to discuss this more because she's not ready.
55:51
SPEAKER_00: She needs to have upgrades to even believe what we we would be saying.
55:55
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
55:56
SPEAKER_03: So this I mean that part was also a big theme in the last session that I just did.
56:05
SPEAKER_03: Oh there was this whole thing where I'm like I want to know the answers answer by you know and it was like you know when there's like a a cloth over a statue and they're getting ready for the big reveal kind of thing that was what I felt but the like all I could see was like this much.
56:22
SPEAKER_03: And so even in the session I was like I'm having this argument with myself I'm like well what and the what whoever I was talking to was like you need to just be patient the answer is you need to just be patient.
56:37
SPEAKER_03: And I was I even vocalized in the session I'm like but I'm arguing with them because I just want to I want this information to be revealed and there was this whole like be patient chop wood carry water theme and I'm like well that I'm not happy with that and it was like too too bad.
56:57
SPEAKER_02: That's too bad.
56:58
SPEAKER_03: That doesn't scream mind and ego I don't know what does I mean this is the whole like this is my you know this is how it is for me anyway.
57:08
SPEAKER_03: I'm like no I want to know like so yes yes but it's a really good question.
57:14
SPEAKER_02: And sorry I got sidetracked but when I do meditations and when I've had meditations done with my subconscious it looks exactly the same as when I go into the lower world for shamanism.
57:25
SPEAKER_00: And so this is obviously a place that we can access into our subconscious I am going to have to think about how that frequency is brought in kind of compared to everything else that I know bringing in that context but it is more to me it's more of an earth-based frequency and so it has a different vibrational quality than for example like connecting to galactic or connecting to angelic frequencies yes I mean it definitely had a different frequency than yeah for sure and when you work in the shamanic world healing is at a different type of frequency it comes from below instead of from above so so that makes sense to me I know it's mind blowing so Diane you were talking about you know different people's or maybe it was you Nicole I'm sorry about the energetics that are brought to it because it's scripted right and I was wondering I mean Dolores Cannon there's thousands and thousands of people that she did this with such high I I wonder if she in particular is of a vibration that you know was that was part of her mission and that she was particularly tapped in and then that allowed the people that she did her readings with there was actually more of an energetic exchange and because it was so successful with her they want to have fidelity in a way and carry that forward and allow it to but then if you don't have that energy same energetics does it is it is effective so I guess I just maybe I'm putting in the factor that each practitioner is different and like Diane you had your a you know a great relationship with yours that's a friend and there's like a trust there already and um like I didn't know my lady when she started talking weird I just was like out you know like I so there's a lot of human factors too about the energetics.
59:26
SPEAKER_00: Um anyway I'm just putting out there because I mean there's no doubt about Dolores Cannon and like her the information that she has gathered over time is like revolutionary.
59:37
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know what just keep keeping on the energetics path here.
59:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah and what Spirit's kind of showing me as we're talking is the combination of the the channel the using the methodology as Dolores Cannon has outlined it because obviously that is a channeled methodology which is very interesting for me to say out loud because again my brain is just like there's other people that do past life aggression too she just has a very specific way of doing it.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_02: And the combination of that methodology the practitioner that's hosting the session as well as the person that is receiving the QHHT like it really feels like you're accessing they keep showing me about 10% of the potential of what could be connected to in that space.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_02: And so again I just continue to see this as the doorway for people who want to dip the toe in who maybe are a little bit more skeptical.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_02: And actually I really love it as a modality for people to experience it for themselves because I think there's such power to that.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_02: But again I don't know what the success rate is I don't like we you're hearing all three of us having issues connecting and we are very connected powerhouse individuals.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_02: So it's just it's really interesting to me this whole dynamic of QHH but again I'm really glad it is the doorway for some people to start doing this work and start having their own spiritual experiences for sure.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_00: I think it is so valuable for that yeah and there's power in reminding us that we actually do have all the answers ourselves yes I mean because that's what I was fighting against like kind of like Diane like take the goddamn cloth off of the statue like show me tell me take me into outer space and tell me all the answers you know like and we get impatient and all those things come in but maybe the biggest lesson is like you guys need to relax and remember that you do actually have it all inside you.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_00: So the questions are more most appropriately asked of you you know but we if you don't have that baseline of trust yet then that's that wouldn't work.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_03: Well and this is the thing I think you know I mean I think that I assume part of Dolores Canon's mission and Julia Cannon's mission is to introduce this work to a huge number of people and I think that if you're going to to do that you probably actually really do have to have a very tight structure because you know who knows who is in here learning this stuff.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_03: And it I mean it's just like a lot of this these other modalities this could be a very powerful tool.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_03: So keeping people in these very tight parameters you know it's just like how the ethics that you have to bring into any readings that you do, right?
1:02:38
SPEAKER_03: Like I I think it's probably the same thing.
1:02:40
SPEAKER_03: You have to have because you don't know who's who's who's taking this tool and who's learned who's doing what with it.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_03: So I think having some some tighter parameters on there probably makes sense at least initially and I suspect that the level three QHT practitioners the more times they do this I I mean I don't know I mean I would assume that they are coming across a lot of things that don't fit the script and so they are probably having to come up with new guidelines based on that.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_03: But you know it's just like if you're brand new to this it's probably good to have a relatively more limited approach.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_00: Nicole you're gonna make it more accessible.
1:03:31
SPEAKER_00: What's that?
1:03:31
SPEAKER_00: I'm just and then part two of this podcast will be the QHT practitioners saying what you guys said was a bunch of crap.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_03: I it's it'll be so interesting to hear if you have if you have QHHT practitioners commenting on this.
1:03:46
SPEAKER_02: So if anyone wants to be interviewed come on just send me a message wherever you're at I'd love to well and what was going through my mind while you were chatting Diane is I don't have the same I want to use the word ick because it's a little bit of an ick I don't have the same ick factor when it comes to practitioners like Brian Weiss and Michael Newton and Linda Backman who all do hypnotherapy and past life regression as well.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like I wonder and so as you're talking like this download came in and I think this this is might be some of the magic that is lost through QHHT because it has been disseminated and it has been taught through these different modalities.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_02: And so you have so many practitioners that are doing these very isolated sessions with clients and we're not able to pull together the common themes that humanity needs to hear and learn because I learned so much and I have zero doubt from the psychotherapists and the books that they have right and I just I love their work because they're able to have proof have evidence notice the common themes notice that there's similar things coming through in similar ways from very different people with very different backgrounds.
1:04:58
SPEAKER_02: And for me, I think that's what I am more so interested in.
1:05:02
SPEAKER_02: So I think like as a whole I would love to see I don't know I I think I would love to see more outcomes at a summarized level a pattern level that allows us to see the bigger lesson and the bigger picture than for these which I think is lost in this QHH modality.
1:05:21
SPEAKER_00: And it's probably lost in every modality when you start to separate out the individual session sessions versus the greater good of the whole who's receiving those sessions I don't know I look forward to hearing what practitioners have to say because I mean we haven't been through the training maybe there's more attention to this than the people who receive it might pick up on but yeah does Julia Cannon listen to your podcast that'd be interesting.
1:05:55
SPEAKER_02: Let me know she's probably very angry about this
1:06:00
SPEAKER_00: One well, but it's if you're putting a public out for or putting out something that is being consumed by many, many people, by many practitioners, I think it's to be expected that the people receiving that will have a range of experiences.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_00: And the three of us had a range of experiences, and some of it was due to us factors, and other to do external factors, and then others to spirit factors.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_00: So it's like there's many variables going on here.
1:06:29
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know, maybe this is informative for to get real feedback.
1:06:37
SPEAKER_02: Maybe I don't know if they have uh the I loved I loved our shared because we all you I think we all had some very similar shared experiences, and and I think I know there's gonna be listeners that listen to this that are also feeling like the hypnosis felt really weird.
1:06:57
SPEAKER_02: I felt my brain come in.
1:06:58
SPEAKER_02: Like, and so I think the more that we can share this and say in the session, know that your brain's gonna get in the way, know that hypnosis is gonna feel really weird, know that there's gonna be times where your brain might want to filter the information, but pay attention to the emotional components, pay attention to those things that really stand out with you after the session and journal it and write on it because what you're gonna find is that spirit will find a way to validate your experiences after the fact, whether it is, you know, like Diane, through a reading or through a conversation a few days later, or even Dan ran through yours of years later going back and listening to it and being like, oh my gosh, it was completely valid that in the moment it felt fake and and uh and incomplete, right?
1:07:43
SPEAKER_02: And like, doesn't every freaking spiritual connection at some level feel like this for us?
1:07:51
SPEAKER_02: Yes, it does.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just sign your sign.
1:07:58
SPEAKER_00: I need more evidence.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_00: Like we are we were kind of skeptical about the thing even now, like even though we know and trust and all that stuff.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:08:08
SPEAKER_02: So any last closing thoughts or words, ladies, before we wrap up this episode.
1:08:17
SPEAKER_02: I'm looking at you, Diane.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_02: Diane.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_03: No, I'm good.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_03: I'm good.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_03: Okay, I don't have any, I don't have any words of wisdom.
1:08:23
SPEAKER_03: It's an experience.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_03: Try it out.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_02: Try it out, try anything once.
1:08:27
SPEAKER_02: I agree.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_00: Well, and it totally tracks that you would have built the pyramids, Diane.
1:08:32
SPEAKER_00: So can can we just validate that separate from the fact?
1:08:35
SPEAKER_00: I mean, hello.
1:08:36
SPEAKER_00: Yes, you would and encoded them with light language and of course you did.
1:08:42
SPEAKER_00: Anchored it into the grid lines.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_00: That could be, yeah.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_00: I think that yeah, that does kind of make sense.
1:08:49
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:08:53
SPEAKER_00: No, thanks for letting us share, Nicole.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_00: I know it's a unique kind of thing, and maybe this helps somebody.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that would be fun if other people decided to do it after this, but then they know and they have clearer expectations because honestly, I really feel it was my own expectations that kind of wrecked it.
1:09:08
SPEAKER_00: So if people go in with a different mindset, there could be a lot of real benefit, you know, keeping it balanced instead of one-sided.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_02: And and to add on to that, I didn't at the beginning of my spiritual journey, I felt like I was crazy to relay all this stuff.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_02: And I didn't feel safe voicing everything that I experienced in my QHT session.
1:09:31
SPEAKER_02: You know, who like lost out on that?
1:09:33
SPEAKER_02: Me, because now those words are not in the recording.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_02: And this is probably why I don't feel called back to go look at it, because like it was I literally scrubbed what I said because I didn't feel safe with the practitioner.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_02: But the practitioner isn't, she doesn't care, she ain't going back to listen to this.
1:09:49
SPEAKER_02: So make sure you're using your words and saying what you experience, even if you're not comfortable, even if this person is a stranger, because you might look back, and the words that you maybe didn't want to say are gonna be really valuable for you later on.
1:10:02
SPEAKER_03: Well, that is funny because I I don't know that I I probably had some version of that also in my first session.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_03: So then in my second session, I'm like, I'm gonna when I'm having these internal debates, I'm gonna vocalize it because I want it to be recorded.
1:10:19
SPEAKER_03: So I had that intention going in because I knew that that was gonna happen because it happened the first time, but I didn't understand that that was happening.
1:10:29
SPEAKER_03: So I just quiet for part of it and then vocalized.
1:10:34
SPEAKER_03: But this time I'm like, oh, hold on.
1:10:36
SPEAKER_03: I'm having an internal debate here.
1:10:38
SPEAKER_03: This is this part of me is saying this, this part of me is saying this.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I mean, I do think that that is it's just, I mean, in that way, it's just like mediumship.
1:10:48
SPEAKER_03: Like stop filtering what you see and just it and don't worry that it doesn't make any sense, or don't worry that you think you're making it up, or whatever.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_03: So I think that there's there's something to be said for that.
1:10:59
SPEAKER_03: The the way that it's going to be most valuable to you if you're doing if you're the sitter for this QHHT session is by vocalizing what what you're experiencing so that you can go go back and listen to it again.
1:11:15
SPEAKER_03: But I mean, I think there is a huge aspect too.
1:11:18
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's really, you know, it's so personal.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_03: Like if you don't have full trust with the practitioner, you know, which you're not going to if it's just somebody that you're you're going to.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_03: But I mean yeah, I don't know.
1:11:34
SPEAKER_03: I I think in that regard, it there's it, it's the it's not, it's not different than going to, you know, a medium or a channeler because you you also you just have to trust them, right?
1:11:44
SPEAKER_03: Like so you that's where this discernment is really important, you know.
1:11:49
SPEAKER_03: And for me, it's very helpful because my friend is somebody that I completely trust.
1:11:54
SPEAKER_03: And so it's easier to be able to be open and about sharing.
1:11:58
SPEAKER_03: But I think it's the same thing.
1:11:59
SPEAKER_03: If you're gonna go to a medium, like you have to be able to discern that this person has ethics and they're not they're not gonna tell you something that is harmful, you know.
1:12:10
SPEAKER_03: I mean, and so it's it's it's similar in that regard.
1:12:14
SPEAKER_03: Like you have to be be clear to yourself that you feel safe enough to to do this experience.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_03: And that's on the practitioner to some extent to uh provide some assurance that that's the case and to be a person of integrity and authenticity and all of that stuff.
1:12:31
SPEAKER_03: And it's on you to have enough level of discernment that you know that this is in fact somebody that you can trust.
1:12:38
SPEAKER_02: I love that.
1:12:40
SPEAKER_02: So good and so right.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_02: All right, before we sign off today, I'd love to ask you if there's anything that you're working on that you want to share with the audience and where can folks find you?
1:12:51
SPEAKER_02: So, Daniel, do you mind if I start with you?
1:12:54
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
1:12:54
SPEAKER_00: I'm in Waterbury, Vermont.
1:12:55
SPEAKER_00: I mostly do light language.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_00: I did a light language group here in town, and it's the last group before I'm gonna have my business out of my house.
1:13:04
SPEAKER_00: So I've been working hard, making the basement into something nice and healing so people can come over and light language mediumship.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_00: I've been channeling the Council of Seven.
1:13:14
SPEAKER_00: I got this fancy new biomat, and I made an infrared sauna so people can come put themselves in the sauna, and I'll help you connect with the people that you have lost or talk to aliens and dragons for you.
1:13:28
SPEAKER_02: Whatever you I love it, and she does a lot of readings virtually as well, and a lot of TikTok lives and social media lives.
1:13:36
SPEAKER_02: So give Danra a follow.
1:13:37
SPEAKER_02: Her info will be in the show notes, and then Diane, where can folks find you?
1:13:42
SPEAKER_03: My website is groundeddivinity.com and I do virtual readings.
1:13:47
SPEAKER_03: And you know, like Danra, I I have decided I'm not confining myself to just mediumship, just spirit guides, it's whatever comes through and however it comes through.
1:13:57
SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
1:14:00
SPEAKER_02: Well, thank you both for being here.
1:14:02
SPEAKER_02: I'm so grateful to the both of you for sharing your experiences with QHHT.
1:14:06
SPEAKER_02: And as they mentioned, if you also have your experience added to the community, if you are a QHHT practitioner and you want to lay the smack down, let me know.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_02: We can have you on the podcast.
1:14:16
SPEAKER_02: Totally open to that.
1:14:19
SPEAKER_02: Uh but thank you both for being here.
1:14:21
SPEAKER_02: I appreciate you both so much.
1:14:23
SPEAKER_00: Love you, Nicole.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_00: Send all the hate notes.
1:14:26
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'll handle it.
1:14:27
SPEAKER_00: All right, so that's good.
1:14:29
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:14:32
SPEAKER_00: Bye.
1:14:33
SPEAKER_00: Bye.
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