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The Season 47 Draft Recap Spectacular · Making The Merge - Survivor Podcast

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  Speaker 1: She's like this mermaid dragon mermaid up until here, but
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: she's hiding under the rocks. She's like a very beautiful,
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: sweet kind mermaid, but when you look behind the rock,
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: it's a bad dragon tail.
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  Speaker 2: And the same could be said about Rachel.
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  Speaker 3: Man. I miss Banu.
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  Speaker 2: I miss him too. Welcome to making the merge where
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: this episode is dedicated to Bonu, just like every episode
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  Speaker 2: we do.
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  Speaker 3: If you would have told me when Bonus season was airing,
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  Speaker 3: was that last season?
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  Speaker 2: It was forty six.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, if you would have told me, I would have been, like,
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: really hoping that he comes back for season fifty. I
• 0:55
  Speaker 3: wouldn't believe you, but I really am.
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  Speaker 2: I hope he does too, and I want to play
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  Speaker 2: that just because I feel like Banu was a prophet. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: he's a prophet about ken Zi winning, and the same
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: exact thing could apply to Rachel. You know, up front mermaid,
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  Speaker 2: but you know she's hiding a big dragon tail.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, dude, what a season this has been. It's
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  Speaker 3: just me and pe d this week. Jonathan and Kristen
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  Speaker 3: aren't available, but we're gonna be going back to our
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  Speaker 3: draft episode where we drafted the players for this season
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  Speaker 3: and we're gonna be going through and seeing how if
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  Speaker 3: our takes held up or not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and spoiler alert, they don't, or at least a
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  Speaker 2: lot of them don't. But you know, Jonathan and Kristen
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  Speaker 2: aren't here, but we do have their baby joining in
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  Speaker 2: the stream. Now. She'd imagine the other recurring character of
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: making the merge and she has hot takes. She she
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: hates women, just like Jonathan and just like me. Apparently,
• 2:07
  Speaker 2: why don't we get into you know, we talked about
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  Speaker 2: the Rome scandal last week, Yeah, the PD scandal. So guys,
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  Speaker 2: I stepped in it apparently, I uh okay, So I
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  Speaker 2: said that Rachel, you know, after winning the last Immunity Challenge,
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  Speaker 2: she was gonna like skate through. What I meant was
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  Speaker 2: she had like clinched in my mind like she had
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  Speaker 2: just won the game right there and she didn't have
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  Speaker 2: to do anything else. But people took that as I
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  Speaker 2: was saying it was like easy for her. That's what
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  Speaker 2: they thought, that she just skated through the game and
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  Speaker 2: like didn't have to do anything, which is not at
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  Speaker 2: all what I meant.
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  Speaker 3: We gotta comment six minutes ago saying skate through, and
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  Speaker 3: then the eye roll Eboji you're getting tore man. Ever
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  Speaker 3: since we posted that clip, people have been upset. That's
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  Speaker 3: not what you meant. I understood what you meant. That's
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  Speaker 3: the That's the bad part about clips is they're often
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  Speaker 3: out of context.
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  Speaker 2: They missed the hour of Rachel glazing that happened on
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  Speaker 2: this podcast where we were talking about how like she's
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  Speaker 2: the most dominant player of the season and how I
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  Speaker 2: literally said that she could have said nothing at tribal
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  Speaker 2: council and still deserve the win. But you know, now,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a sexist because I used a term that I
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  Speaker 2: didn't realize how it sounded.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean to be fair, you are, No.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not, dude. I had the all women team in
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  Speaker 2: season forty five, and I took home the trophy.
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  Speaker 3: You should, uh. I tried to get you to make
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  Speaker 3: an apology video last night. You should make a video
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  Speaker 3: and we'll reply to one of the comments calling you sexist,
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  Speaker 3: and you'll be like, I had the all women team
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  Speaker 3: of season.
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  Speaker 2: I took Kelly, I took d I forgot the other
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  Speaker 2: two because they weren't as important to the season. I
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  Speaker 2: think I had Katura and yeah, so those are my credentials.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean you kind of put us in
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  Speaker 3: a rough spot because our only female co host doesn't
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  Speaker 3: show up most of the time, so it really just
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  Speaker 3: seems like three guys on a Survivor podcast.
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  Speaker 2: But and that's the only clip where I'm like, could
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  Speaker 2: it just stop getting views? That's the only time I
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  Speaker 2: felt that way, because it has like, what fifty thousand
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  Speaker 2: now and I'm just getting on. There was one person
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  Speaker 2: on Instagram who understood what I meant, and I, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I had to screenshot this because somebody said, how is
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  Speaker 2: winning a challenge skate through question mark? And someone responded,
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  Speaker 2: they are referring to what would happen after the challenge,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, thank you. One person out there
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  Speaker 2: understood me.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, that's great, dude. Now you know what it
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  Speaker 3: feels like to be canceled, Man, my team sponsorship, you know, devastated,
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  Speaker 3: and now you're having to deal with the skate through debacle.
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  Speaker 2: I know. So we we both got Survivor related gifts
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  Speaker 2: for Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you got a bunch of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: What you got a Jeff Probes mug fifty Jeff faces
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  Speaker 2: on it and it's fantastic. And then I got a
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  Speaker 2: T shirt that says like, if you have a hidden
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  Speaker 2: immunity idol, then play it now or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then you got.
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  Speaker 2: An actual hidden immunity idol.
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  Speaker 3: I got a hidden immunity idol, man, and I'm keeping
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  Speaker 3: it in my back pocket in case I need it,
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  Speaker 3: in case you guys try to vote me off this podcast.
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  Speaker 2: It so the next time you crash out, yeah, Chase,
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  Speaker 2: get out of here, you pull out the hidden immunity
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  Speaker 2: angle in it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Boy, you know you got those gifts from your dad.
• 5:38
  Speaker 3: Your dad roasted Jonathan and Christen pretty hard. He said
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  Speaker 3: they could never do gen X versus Millennials again because
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  Speaker 3: the millennials would leave every few minutes to go check
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  Speaker 3: on their baby.
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  Speaker 2: Man, my dad dunked on them so hard.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, I love this show.
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  Speaker 2: He's been saying stuff like that to me all season.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, Man, what's up with these helicopter parents? Gotta
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  Speaker 2: go check on their baby every five minutes? Why want
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  Speaker 2: you just leave them in a room.
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  Speaker 3: It's like when you were a baby. He just like
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  Speaker 3: put you in the garage.
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  Speaker 2: He's fine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Probably someone put on a Survivor season one it
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  Speaker 3: was airing.
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  Speaker 2: I think they were watching season one through like season eight,
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  Speaker 2: and my dad and then my mom, and then eventually
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  Speaker 2: I joined in. I think I joined in on the
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  Speaker 2: yow Man season.
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  Speaker 3: Oh hecky, great season. But I think the Sea the
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  Speaker 3: year we were born was season one airing nine or
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  Speaker 3: maybe it was two thousand that the first season aired.
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  Speaker 2: So I was in the same situation that Lizzie is
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  Speaker 2: in now, where she's like trying to sleep and then
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  Speaker 2: challenge Yeah going on in the background.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe even fifteen years if we're still doing this show,
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  Speaker 3: their their daughter can be one of the fifth co host.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we could, you know, kick out Jonathan and then
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  Speaker 2: replace him Lizzy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, even better. All right, man, let's get into
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  Speaker 3: the Survivor draft and talking about this season. What's super
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  Speaker 3: cool about this episode is we get to like look
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  Speaker 3: at our takes from before the season and now we
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  Speaker 3: get to talk about them in hindsight after the season,
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  Speaker 3: and I can't wait to see how wrong we were.
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  Speaker 2: All we have to go off of is like there's
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of preseason press and like advertisements and stuff,
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  Speaker 2: and then we have two episodes, and then we have
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  Speaker 2: to take those two episodes and then decide what we
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  Speaker 2: think is gonna happen for the rest of the season,
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  Speaker 2: which yeah, no, it's really just like having a blindfold
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  Speaker 2: on and throwing darts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but hey, I got a bulls line.
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  Speaker 2: You did, all right, let's get into it. So pick
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  Speaker 2: one and round one went to Jonathan. Yeah, he got
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  Speaker 2: the lucky spin of the wheel or not so lucky,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because of how his draft went. But he
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  Speaker 2: took Genevieve first overall, and this caused immediate chaos, yes,
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  Speaker 2: to which I responded, what, I don't even know what
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  Speaker 2: she looks like, And Chase said, no way, dude, no way.
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  Speaker 2: You said no way like five times.
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  Speaker 3: That was such a wild first because I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: think we were also shocked because literally we hadn't seen
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  Speaker 3: much of her at all in those first two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: When you start in a season and you're trying to
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  Speaker 2: learn the names of everybody and who's on what tribe,
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  Speaker 2: and just like you're trying to learn all the players,
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  Speaker 2: if there's no confessional time in those first two episodes,
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  Speaker 2: I always think they're they're not important to the story.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, their pre merged boot for sure.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what we had. Genevieve Pegg Daz, which is why.
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  Speaker 2: Later in the episode, Chase went on to make a
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  Speaker 2: bet that almost destroyed his life.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, could have, could have, should have.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you said that you would get a tattoo of
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  Speaker 2: our choice if Geneviev made the final three, because to
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  Speaker 2: us it wasn't possible that she would be making the merge.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I because I doubled down. I at first, I
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  Speaker 3: think I said if she wins, but then I was like,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, I'm so confident if she won't even
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  Speaker 3: make the final three. And you know what, knowing me,
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  Speaker 3: I probably would have doubled down a second time if
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  Speaker 3: you guys kept egging me on, and I would have
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  Speaker 3: said merge because I was so confident Genevieve was not
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  Speaker 3: making it past merge.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a huge missed opportunity. Now, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: really wish we had pushed for merch.
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  Speaker 3: Well that's the thing about me, man Ish, I'll do
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  Speaker 3: anything to put on a show.
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  Speaker 2: The showman himself, Chase Bridges showman man.
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  Speaker 3: Here's I have a hot take, because I mean, now,
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  Speaker 3: in hindsight, we know what Genevieve did in this season.
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  Speaker 3: Geneviev made it. Would she made it final six? Right?
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  Speaker 3: She made it.
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  Speaker 2: Final five, I believe because in that episode before the finale,
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  Speaker 2: it was Andy who went. He went at sixth, and
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  Speaker 2: then Genevieve went the next five.
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  Speaker 3: So, in hindsight, wild of us to be like so
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  Speaker 3: confident that she wasn't gonna make it very far. But
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  Speaker 3: I do have something, probably a little controversial to say
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  Speaker 3: about old Genevieve. Okay, next season, next season, once we're
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  Speaker 3: in the middle of that season, if someone was like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: do you remember Genevieve from last season, I probably wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: even remember her.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's a crazy take.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think if it wasn't I think if it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't for the bonu bet, I would have already forgotten
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  Speaker 3: about Genevieve.
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  Speaker 2: She was like, she was one of the major characters
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  Speaker 2: of this season. I feel like if Rachel wasn't there,
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  Speaker 2: Genevieve would have won at the end.
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  Speaker 3: Like yeah, but I mean, here's the thing is, like,
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  Speaker 3: there's so many contestants and we've seen so many seasons.
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: Two seasons from now, I guarantee you I won't remember
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: Genevieve's name, you know what I mean. It's like if
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: you're not if you're not, like, like I remember Q
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  Speaker 3: because Q was such a big personality. I remember Bonu.
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: I remember even if we go way back in Survivor
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  Speaker 3: seasons to like pre All Stars, you talk about someone
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: like Amber, right, someone like Amber who won All Stars,
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  Speaker 3: Like I remember Amber, but Genevieve, you know, she played
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  Speaker 3: a strong game in the middle of a season and
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  Speaker 3: then was eliminated before the Final four. So I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if I'll remember her.
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  Speaker 2: And well, I guess I have a hot take. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like Genevieve it was more entertaining than Amber.
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  Speaker 3: Really.
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  Speaker 2: I mean because Boston rob was the star of that show.
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: Well that's true, but Amble was right there the whole shoe.
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: She was Amble.
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  Speaker 2: Amber did win the game, so there is that. I mean,
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: there are lots of things that make Amber very memorable,
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  Speaker 2: but I just think, like, I mean, compare the confessionals.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like Genevieve was really good in confessionals throughout
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  Speaker 2: the season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and that's the thing is like, even if
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: you look at someone like Parvity or Jenna Morasco, do
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  Speaker 3: you remember her, like yeah, I mean like Kim the
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: Beast Challenge, Kim, Like there's some like really dominating Survivor
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: players and I'm gonna go ahead and say this for
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  Speaker 3: Rachel too. Is Rachel I think is a is one
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: of the better winners we've had, because, like D, I
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: don't really consider D to be that great of a winner.
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: And I think that's ridiculous too. This is the p
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: D and Chase fight episode. Yeah, dude, D was Like,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like D's like right behind Rachel is like
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  Speaker 2: one of the most dominant games. She's played Austin like
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  Speaker 2: a fiddle to get to the end and then dunked
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  Speaker 2: on him at the I've been saying dunked on a
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  Speaker 2: lot in this. Yeah, but she I feel like she
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  Speaker 2: had the best case of forty five and I don't
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  Speaker 2: think but I don't think forty five was nearly as
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  Speaker 2: good as forty six and four forty seven.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's what I mean by like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if she was that cool of a
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  Speaker 3: winner because I don't really remember much of the season
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  Speaker 3: except for Austin Sandwich.
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  Speaker 2: Debacle and Austin just being in love.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then backstabbing, which you know what that changes
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  Speaker 3: my opinion. I forgot about that, the fact that she
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: had a show man's the whole season and then backstabbed
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  Speaker 3: him to win the game.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty baller backstabbed him, and then in the exit press,
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  Speaker 2: she was saying, you know, we're just keeping it private
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  Speaker 2: for now. Yeah, and then it turned out they weren't together.
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's move on to the next.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: Uh so next up, I said that, you know, after
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan took Genevieve, I was like, you know what, thank
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  Speaker 2: you Jonathan for giving me my pick of whoever I wanted.
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  Speaker 2: And then I proceeded to pick Aisha, which.
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna blame you. That was a good pick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm still salty about it to this day.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: I'm still salty at Teeny and Kashan. I mean, this
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: is like talking about things we're gonna forget in a
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  Speaker 2: couple of seasons. I'm definitely gonna forget about all this,
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  Speaker 2: But as of right now, I'm very upset that Teeny
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: and Kashawan decided to side with Rome over Asia. Yeah.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: Asia was a good pick because I was I think
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: I was gonna pick Asia two. I think I even
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: made a statement during the draft where I was like,
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: this is gonna be a woman dominating season. Yeah, And
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: I was like, and I think we made a callback
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: to you doing the all female draft a couple of
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: seasons ago, and I'm like, this is another season where
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: you should probably do an all female draft, and I
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: think I was kind of right.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're definitely right about the Asia picks. Chase
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: said she knows the game, she'll go far, and then
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Kristen said she probably is gonna make Final five, but
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  Speaker 2: she won't win, and then she was voted out the
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: next episode.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, crazy crazy. That's probably one of the most shocking eliminations.
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  Speaker 3: Which there's another, probably the most shocking elimination. We'll get
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  Speaker 3: to it a little bit, but I think this is
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: up there as one of the most shocking eliminations.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was so upset. It's just the circumstances
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: around me watching Asha get voted out because there was
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: a hurricane first of all. Yeah, and then my favorite
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: baseball team gets knocked out of the playoffs. And then
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: I think, all right, time to watch Survivor, and then
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: I lose my number one pick. Yeah, so it was
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: speaking of getting dunked on life was dunking on me
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  Speaker 2: on that tick. Kristen had the next pick and she
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: took Sam, which, yeah, very good pick for that for
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: the third spot to get the runner up.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: I think it was even a good pick then because
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: he was pretty much at top the top of his
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: tribe at this point of the draft too, so it
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: was a good pick. Then it ended up staying a
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: good pick. But in the middle of the season there
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: it was a very, very bad pick.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: He started off on top, and then it was the
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Sierra vote that really put him on the bottom, and
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: then he stayed there until the end of the game.
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  Speaker 2: At the time, I thought it was a great pick,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: but I didn't want him because I feel like you
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: have to pick and choose your threats. Yeah, and I
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: was like, you know, Sam, he feels like too much
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  Speaker 2: of a threat, you know, sports reporter, good looking, athletic,
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  Speaker 2: I mean everything that Teeny hates him for exactly. We've
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: gotten into all that, but Teeny, I feel like I
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: think I might have had the same realcit teen he did, like, ah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this guy, look at him. He's like golden boy. Sam,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: got to get him out of here.
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  Speaker 3: And I just didn't like his attitude towards Andy, even
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: though all of our attitudes towards towards Andy was kind
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: of the same. I didn't like how he was like
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: the puppet master of his tribe, and he was like
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: stringing Andy along. I was like, this is gonna backfire
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: for him, and it did.
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  Speaker 2: And then there was the moment where he found the
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: idle clue and then he like took a different person
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  Speaker 2: on each step of finding the idol, which was a
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: fascinating decision. Yeah, I don't think it ended up affecting
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: much because didn't he use that idol pretty quick?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, everyone except for Rachel pretty much. Any advantage
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: they got, they kind of got rid of it immediately,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: except for a sue as well. But talking about Sam's game,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: since we're talking about Sam for a second, one of
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: the things that I thought was very interesting about Sam
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: is how like almost immediately when he met Sierra, he
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: was like I want to work with you. Oh God,
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: I wanted to work with you so bad. And then
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: they kind of have like the beginning of a showmance
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: and then it gets pointed out and then he's like, dude, dude, no,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: like I have a fiancee back home or whatever, or
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: did she have a fiancee back home? One of them
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: they had.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I think they both did, like, but one of them
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: had a relationship and one of my fiance.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: And so I was like, this is weird, because why
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: were you so excited to work with her? You know
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: what I mean?
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Because like I didn't flirt with each other.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: No, but it was just like a weird like way
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: of going about things.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Sam. Yeah, he started off strong, then it was awful,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: and then he ended on a good note, you know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: playing this. Yeah, the scrappy underdog.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I still don't think that he was the scrappy underdog.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I know I went hard on him last episode.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I do not think he was this scrappy underdog. I
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: think he got drug along to the finals.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: So the next pick was your pick Chase, and you
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: took the fan favorite of the season, Soul Soul.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I I didn't learn my lesson from last season.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you had the fourth pick and you took Q
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: and Hunter.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and in really bad, really bad decision, I took
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: two major threats. But that's the thing is, I can't
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: help it. And I've had this problem ever since I've
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: started watching Survivor. This is my first time I've ever
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: like got and the winner, And even then I didn't
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: think Rachel was gonna win. I'm really, really bad at
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: picking who's gonna win the season, because I just picked
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: the person I like the most, and that was Saul
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: for me this year, this season.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: And it wasn't just who you liked the most, like
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: after a I'd say maybe episode three or four, when
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: the Rome bullying started, I felt like, yeah, Saul was
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: like the new era Rupert kind.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Of Oh, that's a great comparison. And this is you know,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: we're talking about just this season being a great season.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I think this was the first season where we had
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: a really big survivor villain and a really big a
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: few survivor heroes. You know.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had Johnny Fairplay and Rupert all over again.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Dude, Yeah, we had Rome and Saul.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I mean I think Rome and Saul really carried the
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: first like up until the merch. Yeah, they were carrying
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: If he hadn't destroyed his chances of ever being invited
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: act by spoiling the season, I could definitely see those
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: two being the ones that get brought back for season fifty.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: And you might not like this, but I think Genevieve
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: probably has a great shot of being brought back, like
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: in a second chances type of thing.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, here because it was really just like
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: it was either gonna be her or Rachel. And if
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be one of those things where,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe I don't think they're gonna invite that
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: many players back from this season, but if they, if they,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: it could be the kind of thing where they invite Rachel, hey,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: you want to come back, and she goes man, not really,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: and they're like, right, we'll get Genevieve.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Rachel's like I want to go out on top baby.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which a lot of winners have refused
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: to come back for other seasons, and I don't blame them.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: You made your million dollars. You don't got to do
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: that again.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not everybody. It's Tom Brady where they're willing to
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: like ruin their marriage for another shot at the trophy.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Coming back, I've got no one. Not everyone's Boston Rob,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: who was like I'm coming back until I win. Uh.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Saul, he was just a great survivor player.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't remember him. I don't regret it
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: at all. I would pick him first again in hindsight.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously I would, you know, try to get
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Rachel again because she won. But I don't regret it.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, he was the last. I was shocked that
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: he was the last pick of round one because I
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: really thought someone was gonna snatch him up. And I
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: think I might have even mentioned this when I drafted him.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: You know, he seems physically capable, but he just seemed
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: like a really good social player. He just seem like
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: a good social player too. And that's where like players
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: like qu failed, where they were very dominating, but their
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: personality was very in your face, which doesn't make for
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: you know, making friends in the merge. And yeah, I
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: just thought I thought so could go a long way.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I don't regret that draft pick at all. Man. He
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: gave me someone to rally for SAW nation all.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: And he acknowledged us on the internet, the only player
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: this season to do that.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: So we're gonna send him a making the merch hat
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: dude as our boy.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Not only is he super sexy, but he was super chill.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Super sexy and super chill dude.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: So the next pick was Tiana. It was another Chase
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: pick because the person who picks last gets to have
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: two picks. Last year, you said, I was in the
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: same position, and I'm not gonna make the same mistake
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: of picking two big threats. But and what did you do?
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: You kind of picked two big threats.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I don't, can I be honest with you? Who is Tiana?
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Tiana was someone who hated Gabe.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, what did she look like? I need to
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: look up a picture.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Literally don't remember.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm not making a joke.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: That's crazy that you drafted her and you don't even
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: know if she and you made the graft of our
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: teams on Instagram and you have somehow erased the memory
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: of Tiana.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: It was a long time ago, dude. She went quick,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: She went really quick.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: It was a pre merge. Yeah, but I feel like
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: it wasn't that quick. Like I don't think she left
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: until episode uh five, But I couldn't tell you what
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: episode she got eliminated on either.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I remember her now. I looked her up. Yeah,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: she was a threat. I liked how she hated Gabe,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: and I really like, I think at that stage of
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: the game, I think I thought that it was gonna
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: be like a Gabe Tiana Rome final like in the
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: in the Merge, like these it was gonna be these
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: these big players kind of fighting it out and and
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: someone like Soul was gonna be there, but he was
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: gonna be like the nice guy and he was like
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: not a part of the drama kind of thing. Very wrong.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: I thought I was completely off.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: But it couldn't be more wrong.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't don't know what I was thinking, dude.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: This season, which we should have known, because the first
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: two episodes of this season really set up the whole season,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: and we talked about this several times throughout the season,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: is immediately they were taking out big threats, and it
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: got to the point where, you know, after the merge,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: it was all players that would usually never make the merge.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Even the winner was Rachel, and that was someone who,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: you know, her game didn't kickstart until towards the end
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: of the game, about halfway through, when she had to
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: like kick it into another gear. She you know, I
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: think she's a pre merge elimination in any other season,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: but in this season, when they're eliminating these huge threats immediately,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: anyone who does anything impressive is gone. Anyone who finds
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: an advantage is getting rid of it immediately so that
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: they don't look like a threat.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: After Chase takes Soul and Tiana it swings back to Kristin,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: who picks Teeny in the sixth spot, and Kristin she
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: did really good. Kristin picked two of the final four
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: with her first two picks. Teeny was somebody that I thought,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: like the first half of the season, I thought Teeny
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: could win this game. Teeny could end up just like
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Kinsey where she gets to the end and it's like
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: you take the plotting strategist and put them up against
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: the social player who everyone loves. It just it didn't
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: work out that way because of the fire and because
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: of Rachel playing such a dominant game.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I think I even said when Kristen drafted Teeny,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: I was like, hey, that's a great pick. I think
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: she could win it. She she was kind of like,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: you know, people talk about the winners edit. I thought
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: that she kind of had a winner's edit pre merge.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: I think where Teeny went wrong is she started kind
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: of coasting in the middle there. If she would have
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: kept playing that kind of like the game that she
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: was playing in the beginning, her and Keishan and and
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: you know they, she would have kept playing that very
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: strong game all throughout, it could have backfired and sent
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: her home, but I think she would have had a
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: better resume if she would have made it the final three.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: But you know, the fire took her out anyway, which
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I didn't agree with that either.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: But she had the moment later in the season where
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: her bag burns and then she has this well, well,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: first it was the confessional about just like her struggles
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: in life, and then it cuts to her bag burning
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: and she's like, you know what, this is gonna fuel
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: my fire for the rest of the game. And I
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, she could very well win. And then
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: all that happened was she was fooled by Genevieve multiple times,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Genevieve and Andy, and then the Sam crashouts. Yes, yeah,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: it's like when you start receiving that kind of an
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: at it, then it's pretty much a guarantee that you're.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Not gonna win. Yeah, that's yeah. She's a great player
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: and very fun person to watch all season. I really
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: liked her all season, even after the crash outs against Sam,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: because to be fair, I crashed out against Sam too. Yeah.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a great draft pick. I don't
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: think I don't think she was gonna win even if
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: she made it the final three.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: But but maybe if he was on last season, Yeah,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: well it would have been better. But the next pick,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: it goes back to me, and with the seventh pick
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: in the making the merged draft, I selected Gabe.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Great pick.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a great pick. Yeah, but he
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: really I don't think he did enough during the season.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: He was kind of just like he's trying to stay
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Touku strong, and then they they got him out.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I think he was like one of the best Survivor
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: players on this season, Like he really understands Survivor, he
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: really understands strategy in the game. Like I think he's
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: just one of those players that you know, hey, they
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: voted him out because he was really good at playing
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Survivor and that's just nothing you can do about that.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I think he was a great Survivor player.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he might have been like too overt with his
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: threat level, and he sounded super cocky every single confessional
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: about like his past to the end and running the
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: game and all that. I found this out later, and
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I might not have drafted him if I knew this.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: He hosts a Baltimore Ravens podcast called flock Talk, which
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: is repulsive to me as a Steelers fan. I knew
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: when he broke out the ray Lewis dance, and ray
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Lewis was a linebacker that terrorized the Pittsburgh Steelers and
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: everybody that he played for like fifteen plus years. He
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: also allegedly shot somebody in a nightclub, but that's that's
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: a different story. When he broke that out, I was like, Okay,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I may have made a mistake here.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Remember when he when he pulled out the dance there
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: after he won? He want a challenge, right, Yeah.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Because the necklace dropped in the middle of the dance
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and he kind of had to pick it up and
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: it Yeah, it could have been smoother, Gabe.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he kind of lost me there. He kind of
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: lost me there. He strikes me as the kind of
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: guy that was like, how do I say this without
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: being rude? He's going to start a guy. He's like,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: you know, he likes attention and he's very confident in
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: his abilities. Like I said, great Survivor player, Probably not
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: the smartest to be doing ray Lewis nightclub shooting dances
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: and Survivor when you're winning.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: So Gabe doing the Baltimore Ravens dance ray Lewis dance,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: it reminded me. It's not as bad, but it reminded
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: me of Danny. This is testing your memory a little bit.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Danny from season forty four doing the Robert de Niro
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: face to Jeff when he was voted out.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: I don't remember that on that was it was.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I think it was forty four because it was the
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: season with Franny and jam Jam and oh yeah, Carson
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: and Carolyn.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: I vaguely remember it. I vaguely remember it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he got voted out and then he goes, Jeff,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I told everybody back home I would do this. He's like, oh,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: so you're snuffing my torch. I can't.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was cringey, dude. Yeah, it was cringey.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: And so was Gabe doing the Ray Lewis dance.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Gabe not on the same level as the de Niro thing.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: And Jeff It actually spoken on the de Niro incident.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: After Oh oh yeah, what did he say about it?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: He said, he's like, he didn't like it. Oh, I
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: could tell it was it was rehearsed. It wasn't or
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: game in the moment. Yeah, And he's like, I just
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I don't like, like, I don't appreciate that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Dang dude. That must suck for that guy. Everybody was
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: making fun of him, and then Jeff himself was like, yeah,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: it was lame.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: You did have one take about the gay pick. He said,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: that's a good pick, but it's a scary pick. And
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I think that holds up yep, I cause, like I
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: said earlier, you pick like one or two threats, and
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Gabe was my threat pick. The next pick was Jonathan
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: taking Sierra.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Dude, I don't know what he would Jonathan listen all
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: jokes aside. I know, I like, you know, me and
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Johnathan like to pick on each other on the show.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Jonathan sucks at drafting players, dude.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: He has had two zero vote finalists his first two
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: years drafting with US, and then the third year his
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: whole team is eliminated before the final four.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Dude, what was he thinking? Like, I mean, Genevieve worked
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: out kind of a lot longer, But like Genevieve, Sierra
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: his first two picks, not like in hindsight and in
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: what did I say last week for Lude, I mean both,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I mean Sierra less of a crazy pick because she
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: was kind of in that dominating tribe with Sam at first.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: But still, dude, weird picks.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, judging from the first two episodes, when Sierra
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: was in a good spot and you just kind of
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: look at Sierra and you're like, Okay, you look like
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: somebody who could go far in the game of Survivor.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: And I feel like to this point, Sierra was a
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: good pick. But Sierra kind of just didn't make any
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: real moves. Her whole story was just being there with
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Sam and that people accusing them of being a couple
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: and running the game.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, weird pick. Weird pick.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I also remember that she's a big fan of Easter
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Egg hunts. That's about one of the only things I
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: can pull.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: She retired at like twenty six from.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Sorry, guys, we're getting too old for this. I gotta
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: let the young blood, you know, take over the Easter
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Egg game.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Just a twenty five year old zero were just dominating
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: over a toddler.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Sierra.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Not ultimately very memorable, even though she did make it
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: to the merge and was in the jury.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: She did she did the first jury pick first jury. Yep.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: She made the mistake of underestimating Andy and then he
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: flipped on her.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: That's right, And he'll go on to do that several
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: more times.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: So this is the Jonathan snake pick. He took Sierra
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: with the first one, and then his second pick was Kyle.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I remember thinking he was stupid for this. I remember
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: calling him now.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: You said, bad pick, dude, bad pick.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Because Kyle was on the bottom hard.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: At that point. He was on the bottom. And Jonathan's
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: reasoning for picking Kyle was he's got that Foster kid energy.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: This is what he said, which he nailed. You gotta
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: give it to Jonathan, he nailed it. Kyle went on
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: to make it really, really far.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we did say Jonathan did terrible and that's true,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: and that the rest of us had someone in the
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: finale and he didn't. But he did pick two of
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: the most memorable people, at least to me in the season,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Genevieve and Kyle. And one thing that Chase said was like, man,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: if Kyle makes the merge, he could go on to
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: be a challenge beast.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: And he did.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that might have been the best take of the season.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I don't remember saying that, but gotty.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I that was That was pretty much it for Kyle though.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: He was a Challenge beast, and he he talked about
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: his family a lot, and he yes he did. He
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: gave incredible quotes to the point where I decided to
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: make a Kyle Quote of the Week segment on.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Those great numbers on TikTok. Kyle also had that one
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: sided beef with Sue. He gave us the tweetl d
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: tweetled dumb that Sue would go on to say, tweetal ly.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: D tweetly dumb. Okay, that's funny because I had forgotten
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: the original, like tweetl d and tweedtled dumb. I had
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: heard Sue say it for so long because Kyle had
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: been out of the game that all I remember was
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: tweet ly d and tweetedly dumb, Which is really funny
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: because it's.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Like that's like an Alice in Wonderland reference, and it's
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: like she's definitely old enough to know Alice in Wonderland
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: tweetally dumb.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Kyle provided a lot of entertainment in this season, even
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: though there's like the Sue Army out there that says
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Kyle was the most boring contestant of all time.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: No, Sue Army, you kiss my ass.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, take that, Sue Army, Take that su Nami the
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Mother Quake and look, we can go right into Sue.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Because after Jonathan took Sierra and Kyle, I was up
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: next and I picked Sue. And this is the biggest
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: regret of my life. Yeah, not just the biggest regret
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: of the Survivor draft. I think it goes beyond that.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: I think this is the biggest regret. This is the
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: worst decision I've ever made. Because Rachel was on the board.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: I think we even point this out. We're like, you
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: took Sue before.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: That's what Kristen said. She's like, yeah, you chose Sue.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Are you serious?
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah? And then I remember you were kind of joking
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: around like this was kind of your your kind of
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: you're gonna it's gonna be your funny pick.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: But I didn't think of it as the funny pick though, really,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: because Sue was not a comedy.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Character at that point.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the I'm forty five thing had not happened yet,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: the dirty face thing had not happened yet when I
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: took Sue, and then she was in this strong tribe
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: that had the numbers, and I'm thinking, like, okay, you
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: know what, she could make it really far because of that,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: And then I was like Rachel's on the bottom.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: If it wasn't wait, you know, hey, at the time,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: it was true at the time. Yeah, if it wasn't
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: for Sue, though, you wouldn't have had anyone in the
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: final three.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: But I mean she did go far for you. Yeah.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I was looking at like a confessional accounts and everything too,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: which is why I said I was going to reevaluate
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: my draft process next season because I was going heavily
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: off of who's gotten the most screen time and like
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: who's been hyped up in the off season.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which came back to bite you.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Sue. You know, I feel like she gaslit
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: me because I was listening to Rob has a podcast
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: and she said I never hated I was like, Sue,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: it's documented. We have proof of you hating Kyle, and
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I want to play it right now. So this is
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: this is the woman who has never hated Kyle.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I want to kill him and wrote my name down.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: That's why I don't even listen when he Thomas, I'm like,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I want to kill you. Kyle. He is a lot.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: He does the poor me, the woe is me? How
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: many times do we have to hear that he's poor?
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I'm a good guy.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: I'm a dad, I'm.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: A des The sooner Kyle's cut, the happier I'll be.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I will give him back his name on a parchment.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: He he didn't feel bad, Like I.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Can't even look at Kyle.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Because he wrote my name down. He wrote my name down.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: You wrote my name down? Do you wrote my name down?
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: He was on my name now, he wrote my name down.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: So I hate him.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she hated Kyle.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: I wish he had just wanted to kill him.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she didn't hate him. She just hated him, wanted
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: to kill him, according to her. But I do, I
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: do want to give Sue some props, even though she
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: gas lit me and she her game tanked after episode two. Well,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I mean she made it to the end, but you know,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: she was really just like a meme, yeah, the whole season.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: But I want to give her some props for how
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: she has handled everything on social media, because she could
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: have just been upset going after people about the dirty
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: face comments, which we were a part of. We made
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: a video about her face being dirty and all that,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: but instead she made a tutorial on how to get
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Sue's s may snatched cheeks.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, she Uh, she's a really good sport. I
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: think she's a great player, not of like strategy wise
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: or anything, just like a great person to have on Survivor.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: She was, you know, someone that we got to kind
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: of laugh at make jokes about, and she was totally
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: cool with it. She was fine with playing kind of
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: a villain role during the season because you know, she
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: probably didn't think that she was going to get that
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: kind of edit with the hate compilation. But she was
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: a really good sport.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: About it, So I mean she probably like truly did
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: not hate Kyle. It was probably more of just a
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: game thing where it's like, you know, this guy tried
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: to get me out, so I gotta get him out.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: And post game, I bet they're fine with each other.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I bet she's met his kids.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: She's their grandmother now yeah yeah yeah, yeah, Like he
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: called her. That was how we got the whole forty
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: five things when he's like, you're like a badass grandma.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Oh man.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: There's one more thing about Sue. I saw where this
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: little girl was crying, just like bawling her eyes out
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: because Sue did not win. Yeah, she was just wrecked,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: and Sue made her a video saying like, thank you
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: so much for supporting me. I don't think anybody's ever
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: been so emotional about like my game and the just
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: you know, being super nice to this little girl. And
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: I was like, all right, you know, Sue probably a
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: good person. I'm gonna put probably because I don't want
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: to say definitively Sue's a good person, because you never
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: know with survivor contestants, but yeah, Sue probably a good person.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: That's That's how I'll end on Sue.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: The next pick, I believe is Kristen's pick. Right, the
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: next pick eleventh overall, Kristen picks Caroline.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Which do you do? You do you remember? What did
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: we say about that? Was that did we think that
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: was a good pick?
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: I compared her to Emily Flippin' Yeah. I think it's
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: because she's, you know, like skinny, nerdy white girl. It
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: just kind of I don't think she actually played like
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Emily because Emily started off as a villain and people
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: were accusing her of being racist towards Bruce and she
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: did a total turnaround. But Caroline was kind of consistent.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: I think that she was more like just observing everybody
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: else's game. And Rachel or Genevieve would have a great
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: idea for a move and she'd be like, oh, man,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I thought of that, but they said it first. I
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: remember that happening one time in the season, and it
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: just felt like she was just kind of there.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she really latched onto Sue. They went pretty far.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: But I think here's what here's like the encompassing of
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: my feelings towards Caroline. I think she was not the
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: best player strategically. I think she was probably not even
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: the most entertaining player. But I think she seems like
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: a very nice person. I appreciate how in the final tribal,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: even though she was really close with Sue, she still
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: voted for Rachel because she knew that Rachel had played
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: the better game. And I appreciated that.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: A couple episodes ago where I was like, you know what,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: like Sue could get one vote, she's on the Caroline's
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: on that jury. But then it's like, you know what,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: I think Caroline is actually really smart and she'll make
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: the right decision, and then she ended up doing that.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I felt like Caroline was good strategically, she just didn't
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: want to become a threat, and so she didn't like
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: put her stamp on the moves, and then she got
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: duped by Andy.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Which happened to a lot of people this season.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was the she was the fall in Operation Italy.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: She took the hit on that one.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Dang dude, she got hit by the mafia.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: And what was like what we called a heist, Like
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: no one could have foreseen those three even though like
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: they are really smart players coming up with a plan
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: that detailed and executing it perfectly, to the point where
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Teeny the next episode is like, I think Caroline went
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: by accident.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, Teeny man, she got really she got really
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: thrown for a for a loop on these last few weeks.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: That was another great Rachel moment where she's like, hey, Jeff,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: can I just like call out the BS. No, I
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: don't think last night's vote was an accident, geez, Like, dude.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: I think she went home on it. Yeah.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I feel like she just slipped on a banana pel
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: and she's out of the game. I think that's what happened.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: Was crazy. They a lot.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Fourteen after I took Sue and Kristen took Caroline, Chase
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: picks the winner of the season. Rachel at number thirteen.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Dude, I remember being really shocked that you took Sue
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: before Rachel. I didn't. I wasn't as shocked over as
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: like the Caroline over Rachel. Do you do you have
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: anything written down from what we said when we drafted.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I So here's what I said after Chase picked Rachel.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: H Chase said, pet, I'm surprised that you took Sue
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: over Rachel, And I said, it's something about the cut
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: of her jib. You know, she doesn't have the intangibles.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: What does that even mean?
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I was just going into like NFL draft speak, because
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: that's the kind of stuff the NFL analysts say, because
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: I didn't have a real reason why other than I
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: felt like Sue was positioned better in the game at
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: that point, and we just like all we saw from
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Rachel was that she was on the bottom.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, to be fair, I didn't think Rachel
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: was a great pick at the time. I just outed
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: the people that were left. I knew I didn't want Rome,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: I didn't want Andy, I didn't want Anika or Anica,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: so I took Rachel.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: That was another thing about this season, is you said
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Anica's name wrong. Probably as many times as I said
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Asha's name wrong, but I just butchered Asia's name. I
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: don't even want to talk about that. That was embarrassing.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: That was like in the first episode of our show too,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: So that's like the yeah, first thing people hear. But yeah,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: so I mean you took Rachel And we've been singing
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Rachel's praises for about four or five weeks.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but at the beginning, like I mean, like we
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: said earlier, like she's typically a pre merged.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Boot, Rachel played what I think we all consider to
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: be the most dominant game of the New Era, especially
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: because it's like she was on the bottom or like
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the pack for so long and
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: then she just like crushed it as hard as you
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: can possibly crush and survive.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: It was I think what made it even more exciting
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: because like Kyle dominated, but it wasn't as exciting because
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: it was like we got to see someone be saved
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: from elimination, guaranteed to be eliminated, saved, and they like
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: took it as like this is my second chance at life.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna make the most of it, and she just
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: really did.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I'm probably like gonna have night terrors, like I'm gonna
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: wake up sweating because I'm like, oh, I could have
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: taken Rachel when I took Sue.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: But man, Rachel went in the third round last.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. But she was picked number thirteen. Is that right?
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so yeah.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I might have the numbers wrong on that, but yeah,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: it was. She was taken very late, and I think
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: you had said that in the draft. I'm surprised she
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: went this late. But really her only moment, because we're
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: just going off two episodes, was the Rice stealing, which
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I thought was awesome. In the first episode, she wanted
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Andy out right, I.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Think so yeah, because uh, Rachel and Andy is the
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: had that relationship where Andy wanted to work with Rachel
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: really bad and Rachel was like, Hey, you're gonna ruin
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: this for both of us.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Hey, maybe don't wake me up in the middle of
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: the night to discuss your anxiety because it's kind of
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: sus to everybody else.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: And she was right. She went on to win the game.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I was pretty sure Rachel was going home. I wouldn't
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: have thought Rachel was the winner until that episode where
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Saw saved her, and then I was like.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Whoa, Yeah, I think that that was around when I
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: realized it too, because that her and Andy talking, it
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: was like the will they won't they alliance? You know,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: we've been We've been orbiting each other's games for so long.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: I feel like we should finally work together. And then
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: you see how it turned out. Ultimately they both went
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: far yep. And then the next person we're going to
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: talk about did not. It was somebody who we continued
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: to reference throughout the season because it related to Genevieve's
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: game chase with His next pick took Kashawn.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my last draft pick. I didn't feel great about it,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: but I knew I wanted him over who was left,
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: and so I think I think Kishan was a good
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: last pick. He didn't make it very far, but you know.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Now, his thing was that he wanted to flip on Rome,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: and he waited one episode too long to do it,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I think, or a couple episodes too long, because if
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: he had just you know, him and Asha and Teeny
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: could have been of force in the game. Yeah, if
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: they had stayed together, I think, I mean, I don't
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: obviously we'll never know, but Kishawan was definitely the most
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: normal person out of what was left. I think like
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: what was left was Anka, Kashawan, Andy, and Rome. And
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: it's like, well, okay, the two obvious picks there. You
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: take one of the sane people, right or Kishawn, yes,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: which ends up being not the right move on Survivor
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: or in a Survivor draft. So next up is Kristen
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: and she takes Rome. And to this point, this was
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: the biggest surprise in the draft because it's like, Okay, Andy,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Anka and Rome, like Anica obviously is what you would.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Think, right right, Yeah, And I think we really shocked.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: We're like, you took Rome over on again. And here's
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: what I'll say about Kristin. She really she's really good
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: at drafting players. This is the second season that she's
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: drafted right and or third, third, yeah, third, and god dude,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: like she has a great track record every season.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, So, since we brought off Kristen, since Kristen's been
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: part of making the merge or making the Mercon exist,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: since she's been part of our draft. The first season
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: she had the runner up Austin yep. And then flash
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: forward to the next one she picks the winner, Kinzie.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: And then we go to this season and she picks
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: the runner up again. So like Kristin has been number
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: one or number two in every single draft she's been in.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: She she's really good at drafting players. The only mistake
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: she's ever made is drafting Rome. I am so glad
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: that I do not have to say that I drafted Rome.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: I I mean, I'm so glad that we had a
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: Survivor super villain this season because I've missed that. But God, despicable, dude, obnoxious.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: It turns out he faked his own death to get
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: out of a freestyle rap battle.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: I'm let me let me pull this up. This this
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: is something that I had heard. I didn't like verify it,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: but enough people said it that I was like, Okay,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: maybe this is a real thing that happened. Rome allegedly
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: faked his death and when Because he's an esports commentator, right,
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: there's gotta be a news article about this. All I'm
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: finding is a Reddit thread. This is an r slash
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: rap battles, it said Rome DMV. Okay, I guess that
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: was his rap name. Rome DMV is on the current
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: season of Survivor. I saw his first confessional. I was like,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: why does the dude sound so familiar and yeah, all
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: these people are being like, yeah, he did fake his
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: own death.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the same thread.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: This is crazy, But like, where is the proof of
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: the Like, there's just no article about him faking his death.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: I see a thing where he was a blogger and
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: a manager and he faked his death to event to
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: avoid coming to an event after he was talking a
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: lot of trash. He used to be, he used to
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: be on Champion. I don't know, I I believe it.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Maybe this is just something in the rat battle community.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Imagine you're in a community where somebody fakes their death
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: and then you're watching one day and you're like, whoa,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: there's the there's a death.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: I found one of his rat battles.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Oh no, does he spoil a season of Survivor.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: He has a battle Rapper profile. He has five battles cataloged.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, Yeah, I just googled Rome DMV. Dude, we're
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: really unsurfacing something here, and here's a here's a YouTube
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: channel called battle rap Trap with the title is Wow
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Rome DMV faked his own death for attention parentheses proof Uh,
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: someone in may the same channel. Rome DMV resurfaces on
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: Survivor so he's been apparently dead for a while and
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: then just popped up on Survival. Okay, that's awesome. He's
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: wearing a do rag and he like, I mean, he's
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: he looks like a battle rap. I'm trying to skip
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: to his part. He's getting destroyed for six minutes and
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: forty five seconds. He's like sipping out of a syrophoam
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: cup as he's listening. This dude's still going. It's been
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: eight minutes. All right, here we go. Oh no, alrighty
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Rome verse apte. Let's get him out of the way.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I hope you're ready to go to war because I
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: got some ship to say.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: You gonna die a slow death. This could go on
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: for days because the fans know that Rome wasn't built
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: in one day from you. He's not very good.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: No, he's not very good. I guess we should have
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: expected that.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'll send you that video. He looks very different.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: I feel like he's a guy we would have remembered
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: so much differently had he not spoiled the season. Yeah,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: we might be calling for him to come back. Yeah,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: I've probably been praising him for being a villain, you know,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, he said I have my own lists, so
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: it had to a bit deliberate.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Right, I don't know that much about it. I went
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: and watched the clip. I didn't quite understand because it
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: wasn't framed as like the way people were saying it
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: and talking about it. I thought that he went on
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: some show and he was like, oh, yeah, well here's
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: the rest of the season's elimination list. But it was
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: like he was talking about.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Like he's doing word association. No, he in the word association.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: He went Rachel Sam, Sue Teeny, Genevieve Andy, and it's
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: like that's how people got the whole boot order thing.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I want him in a row.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. It's weird. Kind of strikes me as
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: a as a guy who think a little arrogant, you know,
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: a little cocky.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: How did the fake his own death guy make it
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: through New Era Survivor casting.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: I guess they just knew that he was gonna be
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: a problem and they thought it would be made for
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: funny TV and they were right.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Man, he should have been on last season. He might
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: have won the whole thing. He really could have him
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Rome Q Alliance.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Cancel Christmas.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Kristin crazy pick. It ended up working out
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: because her only other options, well, she could have picked Andy,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: but she was never gonna do that, and she could
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: have picked Anka, and that you know, she would have
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: been gone the next episode. So Rome was the second
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: best choice out of what was left. And that brings
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: me to the most controversial pick. I feel like when
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: the only thing left on the table is Andy and Anka,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: and Jonathan said, hey, PD, are you getting bonu fever?
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: And and I said, yeah, lock it in, I'm taking Andy,
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: and you guys reacted as if I just like set
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: my house on fire.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Well when you did that, I was like, I don't
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: even know if PD wants to win.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I was just I was thinking I was thinking way
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: ahead of y'all. You know, I was streets ahead.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Be honest, though, Be honest, though, were you just trying
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: to be funny And since it was the last pick
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: it didn't really matter? Or do you actually think Andy
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: was going to turn it around? No?
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: I legitimately thought what I was picking between Andy and
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Anica that Andy has a chance to turn it around
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: or at least like be dragged to the end as
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: where Anica was just like she hadn't gotten much of
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: an edit at all, I thought Anica was going to
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: go soon, and then I was right about that. I
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: want to credit Tevin because I listened to Tevin do
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: an interview and he said, I think Andy could have
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: an Emily flipping transformation, and that was in my head too,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: where I was like, you know what Andy, Like, if
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: I take Andy, everyone's gonna make fun of me. But
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: then if there is like some world in where it
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: works out, and that is what happened. Yeah, I can
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: say like you all laughed at me and you thought
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: this is a horrible pick, and look at him. He
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: made it all the way to the final six.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which is crazy because I mean we drafted right
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: after he had his meltdown where he was just like,
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: they didn't cheer for me when I opened a coconut,
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: and so to draft that guy was wild.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Well it was. That was the first episode, and then
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: in the second episode you could see Sam throwing him
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: a bone, and that's where I thought, maybe Sam can
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: actually coach up Andy in a way that Q was
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: unable to do with Bonu. Because this is a very
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: similar thing to what I did last season, where I
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: just the Bonu pick was purely for entertainment, and because
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: I thought that the last two people didn't have a
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: chance this time, I was like, you know, Andy is
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: a sleeper. He looks like he's but if he does
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: turn it around, then then I look like a genius.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, ultimately, I don't look like a genius because
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: my last person left in the game was Sue. But
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: at least I had a good like for the for
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: the draft value, taking somebody at fifteen who goes all
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: the way to number six is very good value.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, I mean he ended up being a
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: great player. That's the thing. Andy did have that transformation.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: He ended up being a great player, and he he
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: wasn't afraid to make big moves, He wasn't afraid to
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: do crazy stuff and flip on alliances, and he made
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: for a great entertaining survivor player. And you know what,
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: he probably could have won the whole game if a
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: few other little things happened, you know.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like if Rachel doesn't have an idol then yeah,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: it most likely would have been Andy or Genevieve winning.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. If Saul doesn't save Rachel. Yeah.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: So those those are two major events that led to
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Andy's exit. But Andy is definitely a per that I
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: would want to see back.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want the bon Neu Andy alliance in season fifty.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bonu Andy and Q.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah you can cancel Christmas. What did he have? The Q,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: the Q pack, the Q bag, QU skirt, the Q skirt.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, heck yeah, dude, Andy, I feel like when they
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: did the flashbacks, he just looks like a different person,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Like he really did have the he's all that transformation,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: because he looked he looked like he was pale and
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: out of shape in the beginning of the game, and
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: then he cut to around when he had the whole
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: transformation and started really positioning himself as a player in
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: the game. He just he looked like a different person.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: Confidence does wonders, you know.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Taking the glass off, flipping your hair.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well here's the thing about Andy, and you know,
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: it's fun to joke around about it, but I think
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: really he just like, I mean, they got dropped on
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: an island. This is the biggest thing that's probably ever
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: happened in his life. I know it would be the
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: biggest thing that ever happened in my life. It's a
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: shocking change, Dude. Is probably just like having a full
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: on panic attack for those first few days. It's not
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: something that is crazy to think would happen to a
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: lot of people, you.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, getting overwhelmed, losing control of your breathing. Yeah,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: and just being in an anxiety spiral when you're dropped
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: into a for an environment and yeah, you're playing a
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: game for a million dollars, it's a pressure cooker.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: It's a ton of pressure, and it's like, Hey, this
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: is just the biggest You're on TV in front of
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: millions of people, this is the biggest opportunity, and it's like,
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: oh God. And you know, he thought he was at
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: the bottom of his tribe. He thought he was gonna
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: be the first one eliminated from his tribe, and he
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: just panicked. I don't blame him at all. And I
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: think he's a great player. I think he was great
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: for this season. You know, big fan of Andy.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everyone is a big fan of Andy
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: except John Lovett.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I totally forgot he was on this season, dude. Cool.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a shame because I feel like John would
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: have been such an entertaining character. But you know what,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Andy got to stay because of that, and Andy was
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: one of the more memorable players of the last five
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: seven however many years.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, him banu Q, Emily what is Applebee's girl?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Liz Wilcox, Yeah, Liz email marketing Liz.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Man, I wish we had a podcast during the Liz meltdown.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: And when I found her website, oh.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: God, we were having a blast, dude, and we used
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: all of her tips and tricks to make this very
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: successful podcast.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Yes. So, I mean, we Liz a lot of money
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: as soon as we start making it ourselves, right, right, right.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: Right, so all right, which brings us to our final
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: draft pick of the.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Draft, that's right. So, I mean it wasn't really a
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: pick because after me and after Kristen took and I
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: took Andy, there's only one player left on the board,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: and that was Onnica. And Jonathan was laughing and just
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: like so giddy with excitement that me and Kristen took
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: the crazy people and that he got left with Anica.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: Who did not last very long.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: No, she lasted maybe three or four more episodes and
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: then she was gone.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: I will say, you know, we talk about Jonathan not
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: being great at picking players a majority of his for
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: a little bit there, like I was losing players very quickly.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: Same for you as well. But Jonathan had a majority
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: of his tribe for a good while. I mean he
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: had Genevieve, Sierra, and Kyle for several several weeks.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Genevieve and Kyle were the two like
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: juggernauts in the middle of the game, like when sam
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Stock was falling, that's when Kyle and jenev we're at
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: the top at that portion. And we had talked about
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: that where we were like, you know, it's they're crushing,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: but they're crushing in a time where it's not good
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: to be crushing.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: You want to crush when Rachel crushed, not when Kyle
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: and Genevieve did it.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think why everybody is so excited about
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: Rachel's win, me me especially, is it's just like the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: textbook example of what a Survivor winner should do. And
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: I won't say that she did it on accident, but
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: it was, like, you know, Saul saving her was a big,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: like unexpected thing. She got the advantage in her the auction.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: She just like it's the it's the perfect survivor story, right.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: She laid low in the beginning. She managed to survive.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: She found advantages, she got advantages, she used them properly.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: She used her loyalty and alliances to get to the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: final three. You know, she she used the the vision
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: of loyalty and alliances to stack the final three with
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: players that she could probably beat, like Sue and Teeny.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: She just it was. It was a textbook example of
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: what a survivor player should be in the new era.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Like you were pointing out, it took a little bit
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: of luck, but you cannot explain away Rachel's game as luck,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: because no, yes, it was lucky to get an advantage
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: in your French fries, but it's not luck when you
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: have to then go cut the idol out of the tarp.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: With a machete front of everyone.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like right behind their backs while they're all talking
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: about stuff and you're just hoping you don't make enough noise.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: And I mean that was the one of the first
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: moments where you're like, whoa, Rachel has started to take
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: over this game.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Well, and also it's like, you know, then you have
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: to use it at the perfect time. Mm hmm. You
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: have to use these advantages at the right time. You
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: have to be careful who you tell the reason that
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: she got the reason that Saul saved her and she
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: was going to be eliminated, was because of the social
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: game that she was playing, you know, so like that's
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: not to be discounted either. He didn't just pick someone
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: at random. He liked Rachel and he knew that Rachel
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: was going home, so he was like, let me mess
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: up the game a little bit.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she had created a bond with Saul and then, Yeah,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: so it's not entirely luck that that he saved her either,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: because she was a relationship that she worked.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: On, yeah quickly, because that had like they had just merged.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: So I think, like previously I had called her one
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: of the luckier players. I think we kind of just
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: dismantled that.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she didn't just skate through piece.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: You already dropped an f bomb on the podcast side.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: I feel like you got the one per year, but man,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: I wanted to just now, do.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: We each get one per season or is there just one?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: I think I think you got the one?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah I used it.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I think yeah, whoever he uses the one next
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: year has to do it at the most opportune time
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: like you did it.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: It'll be me and you one of us, unless Kristen
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: comes out of left field with one or the baby. Yeah,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: that'd be wild.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: It's like, I gotta go check on this baby. That's
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: what Krystinal'll say. Oh, so the draft, that's the draft.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: We did it. We recapped everything, had to live through
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: everyone's pain, except for Chase, because Chase one, Yeah, I.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Need my trophy, dude, and I need I need to
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: get the Letterman jacket.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Which is funny that you have to work on that
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: because it's your prize. But yeah, you're the embroidery person,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: so you're gonna have to make it for yourself.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: I'm excited. I'm I'm gonna work really hard on it.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna design it myself and everything and hopefully, and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: you know, in a perfect world will go in order
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: and all of us will win the next you know,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: each of us will get a win in the next
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: three seasons and so everybody can get their their Letamon jacket.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: But maybe I'll just sweep from now on.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we have very different definitions of a
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: perfect world, because in a perfect world, to me, I
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: win the next three.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: And you get a jacket with like three different season numbers.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: On it.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, plus the other two that I had from the
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: previous drafts. So that's my perfect worlds. But the other
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: thing is we have to fund this. The losers have
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: to help fund your jacket. So it's like another's another
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: punch in the gut to us.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll figure it out. We'll work it out. Well,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: we'll see. I might just buy it myself with this
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: this YouTube money. But I want my Jody Newell trophy,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: that's for sure.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So send me your address or I probably already
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: have it somewhere, and then I will have a trophy
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: mail to you, and hopefully it's the wrong thing again
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: because it's very funny last time.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hysterical. Dude. I'm gonna uh this might be
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: two inside baseball. Hopefully I'll have a studio in my
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: backyard this year, and I'm gonna deck it out with
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff, and I want my Jody Newall
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Survivor Draft trophy displayed prominently.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: Next to a Jeff appropsed cardboard cutout.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: Oh dude, heck yeah, my wife almost got me a
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Jeff Probes cardboard cutout for Christmas, but then it didn't.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: Oh man, that would have been hilarious.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Should have pulled the trigger, Elizabeth.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: Man. All right, send us home, all right.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: We'll be back next week. We have something really fun.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: We are gonna do the nominations for the first ever
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: Mergeye Awards, the Making the Merge Fan Vote Awards. It's
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: gonna be a great time. So next weekend, next Monday,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: whenever that comes out. Yeah, all right, this has been
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: Making the Merge and pd out p d out