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Road Warriors: The Lilienthals' Epic Electric Expedition · In Wheel Time Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Welcome to another In Wheel Time podcast.
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: This is the world's favorite place to go to for fun and informative car talk.
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: It's the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show.
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Just ahead, the Lilienthals join us for another road trip story, this time Europe.
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, my Special feature also on how much the tech in your car costs you time and costs you money.
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: Later, Jeff has the racing calendar, mars has this week in auto history and I'll get you caught up on the stories making automotive news headlines.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: Howdy, along with Mike, out of this world, mars.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: We always need more.
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: Jeff Zekin, our chief engineer, david Ainsley, sleeping in as usual.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: I'm Don Armstrong, glad you could join us today.
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: And look who's joining us now.
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, are you back home?
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: Are you guys back home In Indiana?
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: Are you back home in the Pacific Northwest?
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: We can't hear you.
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: I've got to unmute on your end.
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: You have to unmute.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's a broadcast.
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: Is this your first time?
• 1:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the first time using a computer.
• 1:05
  Speaker 5: You guys just let us in about 20 seconds ago, so I was trying to get in for 10 minutes, so you know.
• 1:12
  Speaker 5: No, I just landed back home.
• 1:15
  Speaker 5: What was it?
• 1:16
  Speaker 5: Six o'clock last night, so I had a tandem trip.
• 1:19
  Speaker 5: Andy got back 10 days ago.
• 1:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, about 10 days ago.
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: So you know, Are you a little bit jet-lagged.
• 1:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was only from Wisconsin, but it was very hot, very muggy, lots of thunderstorms, severe weather, you know, half of the course around this time of year.
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: So that was Wisconsin, but I thought we were going to talk.
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: Well, wait a minute, Wisconsin Baltic.
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: Sea Road Trip.
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: That's where she was Baltic Sea Road Trip.
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: I can't keep up with them.
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: No, you can't.
• 1:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, via Pennsylvania and Subway Fest on tour with Subaru of America and Subaru Motorsports.
• 1:48
  Speaker 5: That was right before.
• 1:49
  Speaker 5: So that was the first part of the tandem.
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: So wait a minute, you've been to see the people with Subaru.
• 1:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: I just did a review.
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: I just did a review of the Subaru WRX, but we couldn't figure out that it is the TR trim level.
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: But what is a RUH?
• 2:09
  Speaker 1: R-u-h?
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: That's what it says on the window sticker, but we don't know what R-U-H stands for and we can't find it anywhere.
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: It's T-R slash R-U-H.
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: So, with your connections with Subaru, there's the question to ask from the In Wheel Time folks down in the south of the world.
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 2:31
  Speaker 4: We will find out, See we tried to Google it too.
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: It didn't work yeah.
• 2:35
  Speaker 5: No, Andy's literally texting our PR contact right now, so maybe we'll have an answer before the end of our session.
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: So tell me about the trips.
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: I want to know.
• 2:45
  Speaker 5: Well, have an answer before the end of our?
• 2:46
  Speaker 5: Okay, cool.
• 2:47
  Speaker 5: So tell me about the trips.
• 2:47
  Speaker 5: I want to know.
• 2:48
  Speaker 5: Well, andy is the driver.
• 2:49
  Speaker 5: Uh, well, maybe I should start talking before, as he's texting, but so yeah, it was.
• 2:51
  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: We did the baltic sea circle rally, which is a 16 uh day, nine country rally uh, and we did uh 7 500 kilometers, which in freedom units is 4,660 miles.
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: Oh my.
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  Speaker 5: And we ended up doing.
• 3:09
  Speaker 5: We clocked ourselves.
• 3:10
  Speaker 5: Our own team was 4,771 miles and we were the only EV team, so the only all-electric team this year, and we learned that we were the first ever non-European team to ever attempt this rally in an all-electric car.
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: Wow, talk about range anxiety, no kidding.
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: So did you have to tow a generator behind you, or how did that work?
• 3:37
  Speaker 5: No, we were very careful and there was a lot of challenges, but it was all about how to pay for it.
• 3:43
  Speaker 4: So the whole thing was is it's a bit of a choose your own adventure scenario, right, so you start it, you start outside of hamburg, germany, and then you have 16 days to do, uh, this route.
• 3:56
  Speaker 4: But the route is very loosey-goosey.
• 3:59
  Speaker 4: You it's basically they tell you, you know, they give you suggestions like on on night one you could stay here, or night two you could stay here, or night two you could camp here.
• 4:07
  Speaker 4: Right, but honestly it's kind of like all right, we'll see you back in Hamburg in 16 days.
• 4:13
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's way different than what we've ever done.
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: Not as structured.
• 4:18
  Speaker 5: Be perfectly on time on route, on everything.
• 4:20
  Speaker 5: So this is way opposite.
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  Speaker 4: So we were able to choose the route we needed based on uh availability of chargers.
• 4:27
  Speaker 4: So the other, the other thing, two other aspects is you're not supposed to use gps, right, and then you're also supposed to stick to back roads to stay off the motorways, right?
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: so, so, so.
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: So you're not using the gps, how are you finding the charging stations?
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, is your car allowed to tell you where the charger is?
• 4:50
  Speaker 4: So there's a bit of a leeway with the EVs.
• 4:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, all of the rules are pretty self-enforced.
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: So they're kind of like guidelines.
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: Do they even have electricity at the Baltic Sea?
• 5:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like really.
• 5:10
  Speaker 4: You would be surprised.
• 5:11
  Speaker 4: It's pretty.
• 5:13
  Speaker 4: The charging infrastructure in Europe is very good, especially in like Scandinavia, in Estonia, latvia, lithuania.
• 5:23
  Speaker 4: Not as good, but still easily doable I shouldn't say easily, but still doable.
• 5:29
  Speaker 5: Right, and I mean, you know, andy was a driver, I was a navigator and so I was the statistical queen, shall we say and the book that I held up beforehand this is the root book.
• 5:39
  Speaker 5: You can see how thick it is it's about half an inch thick, and so each day, they tell you where you can go and where you can camp and basically help you along with where you should be around those areas each day.
• 5:54
  Speaker 5: Well, we had to use a GPS to find where we were charging and, while we paid for the whole rally ourselves, this was our 20th wedding anniversary gift to ourselves.
• 6:05
  Speaker 5: We talked to Volkswagen of Germany, because there's a very high-profile vehicle coming out into North America fourth quarter of this year, and it's a Volkswagen IDBuzz van.
• 6:16
  Speaker 5: And that's the electric van and we drove the European spec short wheelbase version of it, the early generation, slower horsepower version of it, for the rally.
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: How cool is that that's very cool.
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: As a side note here, y'all ever fight in the car.
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like.
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: No, I told you not to turn there, don't turn there.
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah it happens.
• 6:44
  Speaker 4: We always start out by saying we have a little bit of a pinky swear.
• 6:48
  Speaker 4: A pinky swear where we say, okay, good communication, flexibility, don't hit any animals, be kind to each other, keep it shiny side up, wheel side down.
• 6:59
  Speaker 4: That kind of thing.
• 7:01
  Speaker 4: We know competition and this kind of stuff can get heated and yeah, we do have arguments every now and then, but we come out the other side.
• 7:12
  Speaker 3: Right, you said you were in nine countries.
• 7:15
  Speaker 5: Yes, nine countries.
• 7:16
  Speaker 3: So you have to learn the swear words in nine different languages.
• 7:19
  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Well, the other thing is another thing that we might have not said yet is we camped along the way and most of the times we wild camped, so they don't tell you where to camp or hotel or stay with your friends or do whatever.
• 7:33
  Speaker 5: You have to figure all of this out on your own.
• 7:36
  Speaker 5: So, for instance, we've talked with you all about the Alcan 5000 rally that has established motels you stay at every night.
• 7:43
  Speaker 5: You have to figure all of this out on your own.
• 7:45
  Speaker 5: So here's little old me, andy's, driving on a gravel road heading into Poland, going holy crap, is that the sign for Poland?
• 7:51
  Speaker 5: And I'm looking at my paper maps.
• 7:53
  Speaker 5: Because you have to A supply your own maps, by the way.
• 7:56
  Speaker 5: Because you have to A supply your own maps, by the way, try to think of little old me in Oregon trying to order the latest and greatest paper maps from Estonia, lithuania, latvia and Poland while living in the US.
• 8:05
  Speaker 5: That's kind of feeding itself because you know dear Amazon or dear Google, that's not very friendly at all.
• 8:11
  Speaker 5: But do that, you know, on the fly.
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: I think one of the things that has to be in your favor.
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: You've established these roles.
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: He's the driver.
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: You're going to tell him where to go.
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: No arguments about it here go, here, go here.
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: It's not like normal he tells me where to go.
• 8:31
  Speaker 4: I'm a friendly level.
• 8:33
  Speaker 4: There are times where she'll have her head down trying to find the next uh, kind of like the next turn or whatnot, and I remember her saying I'll take a left on on this street so and she's like, where are you going?
• 8:46
  Speaker 4: I'm like you told me to turn here.
• 8:47
  Speaker 4: She's like, okay, thank you, I had my head down.
• 8:48
  Speaker 4: I didn't remember that right.
• 8:50
  Speaker 4: So you know we definitely have a.
• 8:52
  Speaker 4: There has to be good communication on this, especially when you're on these, like some of these roads, especially like in Norway, were absolutely narrow and lots of tractors and very slow and it.
• 9:08
  Speaker 4: It was very slow going.
• 9:09
  Speaker 4: The funny thing about it was is the Alcan 5000 is 5,000 miles over 10 days, so you're averaging five thousand five hundred miles a day.
• 9:16
  Speaker 4: So when we heard about this rally, they're like, oh, you left're averaging 500 miles a day.
• 9:18
  Speaker 4: So when we heard about this rally, they're like, oh, you only have to do about 300 miles a day.
• 9:21
  Speaker 4: I'm like, well, that's easy.
• 9:22
  Speaker 4: Except what we didn't realize is that the speeds that we were going on these back roads were usually about half as fast 40 to 50 miles an hour oh my gosh long time to to get anywhere and they were.
• 9:35
  Speaker 5: You know, when there was traffic it was pretty much our, like a US version of a one-lane road was their highways, their highway way, and a lot of it was back roads, right, so it's even much slower and a lot of it was, you know, you had to use paper maps, so that slowed you down.
• 9:51
  Speaker 5: You had to stop a lot, we had to charge a lot, so we woke up on average 4.30 to 5 am when everybody else was sleeping.
• 9:59
  Speaker 5: If we stayed while camping, most of the time we were on our own and we realized that.
• 10:03
  Speaker 5: But sometimes we had an organized camp spot to try to shower, if there was hot water or whatnot.
• 10:08
  Speaker 5: Twice we had an Airbnb over the 16-day average, but most of the time if there was anybody else, they were still fast asleep by the time we left.
• 10:16
  Speaker 5: There was anybody else.
• 10:19
  Speaker 5: They were still fast asleep by the time we left because every time we stopped we knew it was going to be at least half an hour, most likely more than 50 minutes an hour, while they ran in, petrilled up and then left in maybe 15 minutes.
• 10:27
  Speaker 4: So we'd start out, go past everybody and, as we charged, they passed us.
• 10:30
  Speaker 4: So we we kept up with the pace of the rally, which is the most important part, and and we finished that.
• 10:35
  Speaker 4: The uh, the id buzz was actually a great camper van, super comfortable, uh, it handled great, handled really well.
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: Did it have the westfalia label on the back of it this one?
• 10:46
  Speaker 4: did not.
• 10:47
  Speaker 4: We had a system in the back.
• 10:49
  Speaker 4: It came with this aftermarket system called a kook kook and it's a german made camping module and it's got a two-burner stove, a little refrigerator water and then it also had a quite comfortable bed that pulled it out so we were able to sleep in it.
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: So no buckies, no buckies, no buckies you wish.
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: No, but I'll tell you what One of our things that we do it's sort of this unofficial, unspoken rule is when we travel through different countries we've got to stop at the gas station and try what they've got at the gas station.
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, we tried, like the surprisingly good.
• 11:29
  Speaker 4: I'm not a black licorice fan, but I found black licorice that I like.
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: We found, you know, chocolate bars that were really good, interesting.
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: And then here's the other one that kind of was a big surprise to me Circle K, like the convenience store, is really a big deal in Scandinavia and the Nordic nations, and so good hot dogs at the Circle K.
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: I heard Scandinavia's got some good gas station sushi.
• 11:55
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 11:56
  Speaker 4: I definitely did not do that.
• 11:58
  Speaker 4: But we did have amazing salmon sandwich at 7-Eleven in Norway.
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: It was unbelievable.
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: It was beautiful.
• 12:05
  Speaker 5: One of the best things.
• 12:05
  Speaker 5: We ate the whole trip.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, it makes my stomach hurt just hearing things like that.
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: I'll leave it to the bears.
• 12:13
  Speaker 5: Right, yeah, versus the inedible stuff that you get served here, there were no taquitos that had been on the rollers for eight hours, oh man.
• 12:21
  Speaker 5: One thing that we might want to add, though.
• 12:23
  Speaker 5: When we were stopping at these convenience stores to charge up or finding these charge stations, the biggest hurdle was not how to charge, because we found the chargers easy enough most of the times easy enough and we did a ton of research before we got to Germany to start the rally, and we had, you know, andy created a huge, extensive document with all the different charging apps, what the companies were, how we downloaded them, you know, and of these companies, which countries they would all charge or have chargers in.
• 12:56
  Speaker 5: With that being said, it was, I think, may the rally started in June.
• 13:00
  Speaker 5: We said, okay, let's start downloading them on our US phones, all right, after two or three tries not gonna happen.
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: Not gonna happen.
• 13:08
  Speaker 4: I'm saying we were out of the region and we couldn't download the apps and and go ahead no, and to his um Testament.
• 13:15
  Speaker 5: We were like dead in the water.
• 13:16
  Speaker 5: So luckily I'm I'm a dual citizen.
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: My sister lives over in Germany and her nephew had an old iPhone Our nephew.
• 13:23
  Speaker 5: Well her son, yeah, her son.
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: No arguing, no arguing, you two.
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they've got a lot of practice in the car all the time.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: We've got 20 years worth of practice here.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of pent-up anger here.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: I can tell.
• 13:38
  Speaker 5: But my nephew, our nephew, her son, had an old iPhone that he was able to loan us.
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: They wiped it, loaded up a new SIM card, we got it all figured out, gave him the document and he spent days downloading the program, got it all set up with my information, a new free German email address with you know, under my name, their German address, because I had to have a German base, a German phone, but my information and my credit card to make it work.
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: That's how I paid for it.
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: So basically you can't just pull up to a charger and swipe your credit card like you can in the United States.
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: You have to have the app or like tap credit card thing from each one of the charging companies.
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: So and there are some cards and some apps that will work with multiple charging companies.
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: So the bottom line is this the charging infrastructure in europe right now is better than it is in the united states.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: The downside is you have to have 16 apps.
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: We literally downloaded 16 apps.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Here's the in-wheel time tip of the morning.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: You guys will become bajillionaires by putting all of that together and then selling that information to those people that are going to go on the Baltic Sea tour.
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, right, in an evening, Among other things, yeah.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody's going to go to Poland.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: They want to go look around in.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: Poland.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: I bet you your passport's probably fully loaded up.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, you know.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: So the areas we were in, they all have open borders.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: So there was only one passport stamp, which was Germany, which is where we flew in and out of.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: So all those countries have open borders.
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: Before 2022, they did go into Russia, of course, with borders.
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: Uh, before 2022 they did go into russia, of course, with the invasion of ukraine, they stopped doing that.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: So you take a ferry from helsinki, finland, to talon estonia instead right, what was?
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: what was your favorite country?
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: oh, that's hard to answer.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: Um, I think for me as a whole, norway, norway, was one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: I I have very rarely been somewhere where around.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: You know you're driving down and you see we went, for instance, through Lillehammer, which was the 1994 Winter Olympics, and you know it's just this beautiful area, and you know you come around the bend and there's more beautiful areas, and then you go around another bend and you're like it just doesn't stop.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: It was absolutely spectacular from tip to tail.
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: I would have to second that.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: I would think the more the further north you went for me in Norway, the more I want to go back and visit that whole area.
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: So the northern half for me.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's all go.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: We'll all go together, the five of us.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I got to be we need six.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: We probably need to bring David.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: We can just give you like 20 of us.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah probably 20 of us.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably 20 of us.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and tour bus Well, it'd be a tour trailer.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: A tour trailer, yeah, except on those skinny roads that you're talking about.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I love this stuff.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: So are you guys got a book and plans for all of this stuff?
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: How are we going to learn all this stuff from you guys?
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: plans for all this stuff.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: How are we going to learn all this stuff from you guys?
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: There's so many people that are asking us and have asked us over the last several years to write a book and I think, with both of us being automotive journalists, we have so many articles about all of our rallies and all of our adventures out there For me with the Baltic Sea Circle Rally.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: We're writing many different articles.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: There are some that have already been published.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: I've got one via Autoblog out there.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: Andy's got a couple.
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: Do you want to talk about your articles?
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got an article on GearJunkiecom about it and then I have an article in the print edition of OVR Magazine coming out.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: I'll also have a review of the IDBuzz European the Road Rally review on the truth about cars as well.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Well, look, I mean, we all know about Rick Steves, so I'm thinking Lilienthal's Adventures.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: And a great TV show and audio and all of that.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like it.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I love that Executive producer.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: Don Armstrong and then the movie.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: I like it, I love that.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Executive producer Don Armstrong, and then the movie.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: We'll give you a holler.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: We'll give you a holler.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Give me a holler.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: And then the movie.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: We love you guys.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for joining us today.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Stay in touch with us.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Where's the next adventure going to be?
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Ooh.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: Well, we, that's it but we can talk about some things.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: We have some really cool things um coming up for next year that we cannot talk about yet.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: Um, but for me I've got a view of launch uh coming up in early um, let's see early september that I'm going to be doing.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: That's embargoed right now, but I'll be on that, and then we're both attending sema this year, so we'll be uh doing that in november, lcan 5000 coming up next year, as well as a couple other things we can't call.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Hey, call us from SEMA, will you?
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, sure.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, we'd love to hear from you.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Thank you all again.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: We love you both.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Thank you Y'all, take care.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you, okay, I'm so jealous I know, hey, you're on the In Wheel Time Car.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Talk Show.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I got to load it, shoot fire.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I thought I did load it, what did?
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: you do.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know, jeff didn't Boogered up, boogered up?
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Huh, it's having one of those moments.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Are you ready now?
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir, okay.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not ready.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: That's the wrong one.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: We're getting there, are you Okay?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Well, we're waiting for Jeff.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's wait for me Talk amongst yourselves.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Well, no, because you're next anyway, because you've got to do the racing calendar.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, this thing is messed up.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Here we go and auto history.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: We've got that going on.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: We've got a lot going on here.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Something's happening with that computer.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what, Mr Morris, let's do this.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Why don't Just do the auto history?
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Because we're running a little short of time.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: All right, so we'll go through it.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: So Michael Schumacher, very famous name, was born in 1969 in Germany.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: He came up through the go-kart community like a lot of people do.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: His first official entry into the world of Formula One racing came on August the 25th 1991 at the Belgian Grand Prix.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: He was actually driving for the Jordan Ford team as a stand-in for the regular driver and because he really did well in that, so that kind of pushed him on up into the world of Formula One and he won Motorsports His records, including seven Drivers' Championships and 91 Grand Prix victories.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: That was Michael Schumacher.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Introduced in 1927, august of 26, the original LaSalle 303 was designed by Harley Earl, renowned GM designer.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: It was a shorter and more agile version than the larger Cadillac of the era but it was a luxurious option to it.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: But a Cadillac V8 actually powered the LaSalle to keep it running.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: The LaSalle, lasalle Is that what I said?
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Lasalle, lasalle, to keep it running, the LaSalle.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: LaSalle.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Is that what I said LaSalle, lasalle, lasalle, lasalle, lasalle was priced between the Cadillac and the Buick.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: It's really close to San Leon.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: San Leon, it's the same place.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Lasalle was priced between the Cadillac and the Buick, with the idea being that at the time General Motors, a person working their way in their first car would be the Chevrolet.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Then they would work their way up through the Pontiacs, oldsmobiles, buicks and everything up to the Cadillac.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: So, as Cadillac's companion brand, lasalle set second from the top tier for 13 years until they began taking sales from the Cadillac.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: After World War I the economy kind of went bad and they figured out that Cadillac buyers were stepping down to save a little bit of money to the LaSalle.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: So they discontinued the LaSalle in 1942.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: The last one came off the assembly line.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: August 27, 1950, the Hudson Hornet was introduced, an iconic American car renowned for its performance and innovative design.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: The Hudson Motor Company created the Hornet.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: The thing that made it great was it had a step-down floor.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: The floor was actually below the frame.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Lowering the center of gravity, which is what made it so popular in NASCAR, got it so ugly.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Under the hood it was equipped with a 308 inline-six engine.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: It was the twin H-Power.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: It had dual carburetors on the performance option, delivered 170 horsepower.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Along with the lower stability it dominated in nascar during the early 50s won a lot of races beyond its races.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: The hudson became stylish and it was the pixar's character, doc Doc Hudson, in the movie Cars Formation.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Lincoln Motor Company was August the 28th, 1970.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Henry Leland, the guy from Cadillac, jeff, and his son.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: They went together, created this company and it was actually building motors for the war effort 6,500 Liberty V12, high-quality Liberty aircraft engines for the war effort.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: After that they started building the luxury cars Until again the economy after World War I kind of got to them and Ford Motor Company bought Lincoln for $8 million and that's how Ford got into the luxury car market and Lincoln became very famous as their luxury line.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: That's this week in auto history in a nutshell.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much.
• 22:41
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• 22:44
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• 22:45
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• 22:58
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• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Let's look at the racing calendar.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Jeff's got that Okay and it's sponsored by.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, texas Muscle Car Club Challenge Perfect.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Nascar is at Darlington Raceway.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Tickets are still available.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Michael, it's going to be on September 1st, which is just coming up around the corner tomorrow.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: NHRA Get a flight out of town right away.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: NHRA is at Indianapolis.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Actually, they go on September 1st and September 2nd, which is Monday.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: It's the Indianapolis, it's the big go.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Of course, don just talked about that a minute ago.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: You've got IMSA is over at Indianapolis, well, actually at the end of the month.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: And then you've got Gateway for Indy.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Formula One is actually at the Pirelli Italian Grand Prix.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: You ever been there?
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: No, I haven't, but the trophy is a giant meatball, yep that's what it is.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Is it colored like a meatball it could be or is it more like a?
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: basketball.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I think it's a giant meatball, Big as your head, like Lupe.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Anyways, Le Mans is going to Lone Star.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Le Mans Circus of America is coming up at the end of.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: November.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Ceo of computer chip maker NVIDIA received the highest compensation among top executives at US-based automotive and industry-adjacent companies in 2023,.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: According to this year's Automotive News Equilar CEO Compensation Survey, nvidia CEO Jensen Wang Got a little Wang in it Yep Pay and benefits worth $288 million.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Nice yeah, john Plant at Howmet Aerospace, a supplier of forged aluminum wheels and other engineered metal products Highest paid CEO in 2023, $117 million in total compensation Six times what he got in 2022.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Wow, that includes a $1.6 million salary, $5.6 million in bonus and incentive plan compensation and nearly $110 million in stock award gains Plan compensation.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: In nearly $110 million in stock award gains.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Plant led the separation of Arconic Incorporated into two publicly traded companies Howmet Aerospace and Arconic Corporation.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Joseph Ferraro, ceo of rental car agency Avis Budget Group, was the top earner at automotive services companies.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: His compensation rode 44% to $31.9 million.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah Well, he must be the one that's building that car over there in the River Oaks area, I think, so we're going to take a quick break now and we'll be back right after this.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Stay with us.
• 27:18
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• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Well, time flies, I know as they say Good show, a lot of good guests.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: We did.
• 28:55
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• 28:56
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