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From processed foods to real food: A 65-pound loss · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

• 0:10
  Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of the Maha Lowdown.
• 0:14
  I'm Jeff Lauder back.
• 0:17
  And today we had planned on uh having a show a little different because normally I have guests on the show, but uh I was excited and I am excited about talking about uh what really is the synopsis of Maha.
• 0:35
  If there's the Maha movement has several types of uh entities within it, um, obviously vaccine safety and efficacy and uh the capture uh of government agencies that removing the corporate capture government agencies, removing chemicals from food.
• 0:53
  It's it's wide ranging, but if there's anything that you could really like in elevator speech with uh the Maha movement, it would be eat real food.
• 1:04
  So my original plan was to get on here just me and talk about um eat real food and how it originated and incorporating my story and uh incorporating some interesting news stories that have been happening, but then as uh as it so happens at times uh my voice has been impacted by had a virus over the weekend, and my voice is hoarse, so uh I have someone coming in as a co-host, and actually what's interesting about this is and we have a personal interest because we are significant others, but uh also she is involved.
• 1:55
  Uh, she has an interest in sustainable living and is uh building a business uh related to that, related to permaculture, and uh and she'll be talking about that.
• 2:07
  I'd like to welcome RJ Webster.
• 2:10
  Hello, thank you for inviting me.
• 2:12
  I'm excited to be here.
• 2:14
  And you're serving not as a pinch hitter, but a uh uh co-host since uh I tried uh it's interesting because you know, my background is mostly riding, but I have a lot of broad broadcasting experience, but I have a newfound respect for people who do this full time for a living because I went to record uh a segment or tried to do the 52 minutes and made it through like eight minutes, and uh my voice started getting scratchy.
• 2:44
  So I thought to myself, well, there needs to be an alternative to this.
• 2:47
  So I'm glad uh glad you're hearing it.
• 2:50
  Glad glad it interrelates.
• 2:52
  And what's interesting is uh our RJ, if you saw the uh I think it was maybe the first or second segment of the Maha Low Down.
• 3:02
  I shared my personal story where and it's almost been a year.
• 3:07
  It's uh it was May of 2025 when I stepped on the scale and I was uh 278, and that was the most I've ever weighed.
• 3:16
  Most of my adult life I've been about what I am now, uh, between 215 and 220.
• 3:22
  I'm about six foot four.
• 3:25
  And over the last five years, I just uh got into uh bad habits, and it all centers around what's going on what this show is all about.
• 3:35
  The bad habits were processed foods and not really caring about what I ate and not really taking care of myself where I as I used to.
• 3:44
  But what's different now is the and I've talked about this about the faith.
• 3:49
  The uh I prayed to God.
• 3:51
  It was like last May, recognizing I needed to make a change to um prayed to God to restore the lost years when I fully wasn't who I needed to be.
• 4:03
  And a big part of that, or part of that was not taking care of the body, God's given me.
• 4:08
  And it interrelated with covering RFK Jr.'s presidential campaign from start to finish and learning about the Maha movement, because when you hear RFK Jr.
• 4:19
  all the time, he's talking about um, well, he was running for president at the time, so he's talking about a wide variety, but it all stemmed, you could tell his passion was chronic disease, uh, addressing the chronic disease issue, making food healthier, and part of that is the common theme eating real food, eating local, knowing where your food comes from and how it's raised.
• 4:44
  So um I just think now I look back and it's uh well, it's almost uh early April.
• 4:53
  So it's almost been a year, and that's that's hard to believe.
• 4:57
  But what I did was start start to eat real food where um where I cut out processed foods and started focusing on whole foods and herbs.
• 5:07
  And it's interesting because you the what I was alluding to the article which was in the Epic Times and the Maha report, including fo included some photos of me.
• 5:20
  I guess they would be the before photos, and RJ accompanied me to uh Western North Carolina when uh in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene, that was one of my beats covering covering that, covering the recovery.
• 5:35
  And um, those photos, I'm glad that you were there to uh chronicle those photos and then the uh the after photos, which uh um hiking at a nature preserve.
• 5:49
  So you've had a firsthand uh glimpse of of the changes.
• 5:54
  Yes, actually, I think I am in a kind of a unique uh position just because you know, people who do follow you, and I know you have quite a large following on on Facebook, and then just you know, friends in general, family, people in the community who know you uh well, and you know who see you um pretty often have been able to watch the transformation.
• 6:15
  But uh yes, I actually you know was with you then and you remembered you know how how um much weight that you had on you, and although you carried it well because you are larger, you know, a tall person and you and you carry your weight well, um how much healthier you do look now, um, since you have lost that weight too.
• 6:35
  So uh yeah, I I am in a unique position because I've been able to really watch through the whole transformation.
• 6:41
  That is a diplomatic uh significant other thing to say.
• 6:45
  You carry your weight well.
• 6:48
  Well, you do.
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  That's like the uh what is the uh what's often said is you don't answer a woman who says, Do I look fat in this?
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  But that's true too.
• 7:03
  But it goes back to um, I mean, again, the theme of this and really ongoing a lot of uh upcoming segments of the Maha Lowdown.
• 7:13
  We're gonna be tackling some of these topics here.
• 7:16
  And we uh last week we had on Kelly Ryerson, the glyphosate girl.
• 7:21
  And that what's interesting about that is uh that uh glyphosate, we're starting to learn that uh our food again, knowing knowing where our food comes from and how it's raised.
• 7:35
  Unfortunately, a lot of food has uh chemicals and glyphosate in it.
• 7:40
  That's why it's important to uh to source locally and to know grow your own food and develop networks with local farmers if possible.
• 7:53
  And when you go to the grocery store, understand um read labels, understand uh what you should be getting.
• 8:00
  And that uh I've shared my personal story, which I think interrelates to this.
• 8:06
  And what's fascinating now is this year, and it dates back, it's hard to believe it's already been uh January.
• 8:15
  I'm looking at a story I wrote in January about the unveiling of the food pyramid.
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  And uh RFK Jr.
• 8:24
  said that that was gonna happen.
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  So the food pyramid, what's interesting is he said for for decades, Americans have grown sicker while health costs health care costs have soared.
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  The reason is clear, our government has been lying to us to protect corporate profit taking, telling us that these food-like substances were beneficial to our health.
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  Federal policy promoted and subsidized highly processed foods and refined carbs, carbohydrates and turned a blind eye to the cataclysmic consequences.
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  Today, today the lies stop.
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  That's what he said on uh January 7th, unveiling the new um food pyramid, which essentially was flipped.
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  And it and that since then that's when the eat real food messaging had um had arisen.
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  And it really centers around the the protein, the uh the healthy fats.
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  I know for for so long things have been demonized, like uh the meats and uh the butter and eggs.
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  A lot of uh yeah, there's a story coming.
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  I'm coming out with on breakfast cereals and how that replaced eggs and uh we used to have, I mean, it was commonplace back.
• 9:51
  Uh we joke, uh we personally joke about like little Pal Center Prairie and the Waltons, but you know, you look at what they were eating for breakfast, they weren't.
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  Eating cornflakes or frosted flakes or anything like that.
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  They were eating real food.
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  And then we reached a point where that was demonized for the purpose of uh and that brought in that really breakfast cereals that brought in the uh processed foods, and then it evolved from there because after World War II, then more conveniences, more women going back from going from the home to the workplace, looking for quick meals and uh freezers arising, and then of course microwaves are arising, and so the reliance on quick and now and uh instead of uh anything healthy.
• 10:48
  So um, what's interesting about this?
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  He talks about the food pyramid, um a new stance on highly processed foods, urging consumers to avoid packaged, prepared, ready to eat, or other foods that are salty or sweet, such as chips, cookies, and candy.
• 11:07
  And this is interesting because um that evolved that relates to a few other things we're going to talk about, but I know with you.
• 11:17
  You're you're a good case study as well because uh I know you you're striving to uh to have more uh to eat real food, but also you have a business you're starting, you have a passion with permaculture and uh and landscaping, not just for the sake of the curb appeal, but uh to make it uh to maximize, I guess that's what permaculture is all about to maximize the space.
• 11:49
  Yes, it's it's to actually use the natural uh lay of the land, um to in a in a way that um that plants can survive and thrive the best.
• 12:03
  That's also just um healthier for the soil, um, healthier for the plants, and um so you know, things like if there's you know low spots in uh a person's yard that they might grow some other plants over there so that they um reduce watering.
• 12:22
  Um your land smarter, um, you know, and landscaping as beautiful as it is, and curb appeal is important uh to a certain extent, but you can still grow uh plants that are around your house that add to the curb appeal, but still also serve a better purpose.
• 12:43
  And uh I think it was a few weeks ago I had Jacqueline Capriati on, and she's the founder of the Victory Garden Alliance, and that stemmed from the RFK Junior uh presidential campaign.
• 12:56
  Uh I know she was heavily involved in the New Jersey campaign there, and I think it was a month before RFK Jr.
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  dropped out of the race to endorse President Trump.
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  She created the Kennedy Victory Gardens, and then as what happened across the board with Ma uh with RFK Jr.
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  organizations, they immediately moved to Maha.
• 13:22
  And I think I've talked about it before, but the Make America Healthy Again, that was coined on um, I think it was August 23rd of 2024, when uh Kennedy went to Arizona, and he delivered what I thought was one of the best speeches I've ever heard.
• 13:43
  Until that, I thought the best speech was when he left the Democratic primary and became an independent.
• 13:49
  That was in Philadelphia.
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  That was an amazing speech, but the one he made on August 23rd talking about why he was doing it, and he just he threw in there.
• 14:01
  I don't think he realized what was going to become, but he said, I thank President Trump for giving me the opportunity to make America healthy again.
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  And as you know, we're in this society where things go viral and social media really catapult something.
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  I think it was Del Bigtree.
• 14:20
  Uh, who at the time was Kennedy's communications director, did the MAGA Make America Healthy Again.
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  Not MAGA Maha, Make America Healthy Again, and um hashtags, and then it exploded from there.
• 14:38
  And really that uh it had a name.
• 14:41
  The movement had a name, but it was in full force way before this.
• 14:46
  I think um, and I've documented in my story where there was a time.
• 14:52
  I mean, COVID was my wake-up call for advocacy, but even then I would see farmers, I'd be driving by a farm field and see a farmer in the field, and I didn't think anything bad about farmers.
• 15:06
  I just didn't, you know, I saw that and I said, Well, that's nice, but really didn't have a uh opinion on it, and then started gradually realizing the importance.
• 15:16
  Obviously, with COVID, the supply chain disruptions and uh uh knowing that uh that was the first time, at least in in our lifetime that I remember not knowing if the grocery stores are gonna have food on the shelves.
• 15:33
  But then there was a greater emphasis too on, and I learned that from the food independence summit, uh, which I've written about.
• 15:42
  That's one of the largest uh it's called the Seed to Spoon Summit now, and that that's up in Ohio's Amish country.
• 15:49
  It's not just about having food on the shelves, it's a knowing where your food comes from and how it's raised and and um that not all of it's healthy even when it's there.
• 15:59
  So well, I think I think we were beginning to realize uh as a as a I would think as a country anyway.
• 16:08
  Um, and I think other other nations were also um seeing changes in um you know, not only weight and diabetes and fatty liver, um, you know, but uh the uh people becoming more and more gluten sensitive.
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  And that was, you know, or celiac having celiac disease.
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  That was something that was new and on the rise then, and before that was really pretty much unheard of.
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  Um, so people were scrambling even looking for alternatives to eat to wheat and and also just trying to wrap their heads around really what was the cause of that?
• 16:42
  Like, why was this kind of a new thing that we were um experiencing, you know, as far as a country goes.
• 16:49
  So we're coming up to our first break, and when we return, we're gonna talk about the importance of accountability and uh and and how that's really shaping the Maha movement and the eat real food messaging.
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  Welcome back to the Maha Lowdown.
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  I'm Jeff Lauderback with my guests, RJ Webster.
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  And we are talking about eat real food and how uh I I incorporated my personal story, and uh RJ's talking about her uh her passion and her interest and uh and it what's interesting uh with what you were talking about and before the break, you were talking about the which the business is three-leaf living and about permaculture, and it falls right within this.
• 20:47
  Uh falls right within what Jacqueline Capri Capriati was talking about with the Victory Garden Alliance, growing purposeful food and knowing where it comes from.
• 20:58
  And that's what's interesting, and I was uh alluding to it before, you know, I'm 57, so I didn't really have my wake-up call on a lot of things until COVID.
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  So that was about five years ago, but it's only been the last few years where I've started paying attention to where my food comes from and the uh importance of eliminating processed foods or being more mindful of that.
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  Then of course, I talked about how it was last May before I did anything about it.
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  You know how men are, we get to know we uh know things, but it takes a while before we incorporate some of them.
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  So uh that's how it was with me, and now it's a passion, it's not just about covering the Maha movement or um having this show.
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  It's living that lifestyle and uh taking care of the body, God's given me.
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  And and you you keep on learning, what which is what I love about it.
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  You keep on learning, and by having uh doing all the interviews, and what's fascinating about what you uh are doing is you're you're a prime example of it's never it's never too late to go after something because you know you're in the same age range as me.
• 22:15
  And you are uh you know, you're not uh you're not settling, you're just uh you're right, you're recognizing the uh Maha influence too.
• 22:25
  Yes, yes, and you know, you also uh you touched on faith, you know, a few times, and you know, faith was a big part of that for me, also, um, which is help help uh help leading me to where I am today with starting a new business and um kind of finding myself in this new chapter of of life, you know, with adult children and kind of where do I want to go from here.
• 22:48
  But I really feel very, very led, um, you know, by God to um not only start the business and to have the cleaner living, um, but to then also be able to kind of share uh my journey, uh, my story.
• 23:04
  And you know, there's kind of it's multifaceted too, um, in in it in a number of ways.
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  And part of that is through the cleaner living, um, just making better choices in life, reducing stress, sleeping better, overall better health.
• 23:19
  Um, and so that's you know, part of the the three leaf, the three-leaf living, um, is because it's my my the logo is about soil, soul, and story, um, because it is multifaceted for me.
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  Um the plant side, the gardening side, the landscaping side, that's the the soil side, but God is intertwined in in every aspect of what I am um trying to accomplish.
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  Um, and I feel you know, like again, this is not just me wanting these things.
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  I truly feel like this is this is something I'm being called to do also.
• 23:57
  Um so I'm excited about doing um the Liberty Garden uh for you specifically, and then I think it's just important too to really uh encourage other people who are interested in gardening to um in gardening to um um really uh realizing that they can grow gardens also and the importance of having their own food source, you know, nearby too.
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  What's interesting uh, and this leads into the uh next subject.
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  We recognize the importance of uh again, eating real food, knowing where your food comes from.
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  A lot of good has happened uh this year with the food pyramid being introduced, and that's what started the eat real food messaging.
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  But that had been going on for a while, but that it had a name, marketing obviously is important.
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  So just like Maha had been around for years.
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  This the eat real food now has a name for the messaging.
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  But I um what one of my uh go-to people I always and actually I'll probably have her on in near future, uh, Molly Ingelhart.
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  She is a columnist uh for the Epic Times, and and I'm a national reporter at the Epic Times.
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  And Molly, uh, she's a regenerative farmer and rancher at Sovereignty Ranch, which is down in Texas.
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  Uh, she's the author of Debunked by Nature, debunk everything you thought you knew about food farming and freedom, and it's described as a raw riveting account of her journey from vegan chef and LA restaurateur to hands in the dirt farmer and how nature shattered her cultural programming.
• 25:46
  And that's a mouthful, but it's important to uh I mean, some of some of the listeners have read Molly Ingelhart, but she does a lot of great columns, and uh after the food pyramid came out, she had something really great that I thought was good.
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  I'm not gonna read it for word for word, uh, but she talked about how she knew about the food pyramid growing up, and you know, you you saw the pyramid and it talked about what to eat, and then she got in the food industry since she was uh as a as it alluded to the uh a restaurateur, but she talks about how the food pyramid was introduced and it was inverted, and she says many of us saw it as a win, a long overdue win, and it is a win.
• 26:44
  But she points out that um it's important to recognize who's accountable for the harm because uh we've reached this point, and she talks about nutrition historians have noted that the 1992 pyramids recommendation of six to eleven daily servings of grains was highly criticized or widely criticized, even at the time by experts for ignoring metabolic science and traditional diet tolerant dietary knowledge, and she dives into the fact that uh over the last few decades, and more and more Americans have gotten sick and childhood obesity has risen, type two diabetes, even in adolescence has risen.
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  Uh, she talks about metaphor metabolic dysfunction and about inflammation and disease and addiction to processed carbohydrates.
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  And what's interesting about that is she goes down and talks about how she is excited about the inverted pyramid, and uh she hopes that the ripple effect becomes uh equally immeasurable as far as inspiring change.
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  But I love the uh last paragraph she wrote.
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  She talks about um well, she talks about I hope the ripple effect of the new model becomes equally immeasurable, a turning tide toward real nourishment, local food economies, a restored trust and instinct.
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  Well, we can't pretend that late corrections erase the need for accountability because here's the truth stated plainly the ripple effect of the previous food pyramid is immeasurable in the wake of metabolic dysfunction at left will take at least 50 years to repair.
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  And we all know that this isn't the only place where bureaucrats, three letter agencies and corporate interests are harming the people.
• 28:44
  No, I agree with that statement completely.
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  So that's what I think what she's saying is what we all know.
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  It had this change is happening in steps because it has to be recognized first, and change needs to happen, but it's not uh going to happen in a sustained way until it happens across the board.
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  And I know RFK Jr.
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  is uh doing his best and trying uh to do all that.
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  And HHS has done quite a bit, which we're gonna talk a few uh we're gonna talk about a few things.
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  Well, the food pyramid starting that, the eat real food messaging.
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  Uh, I know there's been a lot to take us uh sugary drinks and foods off snap.
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  Little things like that make make a difference, but it's important the accountability is uh widespread change isn't going to happen until there's accountability and there's uh well, like RFK Jr.
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  said uh RF uh RFK Jr.
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  is focused on removing corporate capture.
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  Of government agencies.
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  And we we're starting to see just how much that is with HHS, USDA, all the uh hurdles they're they're encountering.
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  Uh you would think that uh it would not be bipartisan that health would not be bipartisan, but there's there's those roadblocks, and it just uh I think what she's talking about is there must be uh additional accountability.
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  You don't just uh put up a new food pyramid and everything falls into place.
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  Well, actually, I remember when um the sugar items were really um became a um allowable on the snap benefits.
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  Um, and for there to be also a change in the school lunches.
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  I think when Michelle Obama was involved in that.
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  But um, you know, the pushback from the public was that well, they don't want for the government to tell them what they're allowed to eat or or eat or not eat.
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  Um, and and on one hand, I do understand that, but at the same time, I think now we realize that there was an incentive to add those foods into um those sugary foods onto um the the SNEP benefits and for people to be able to have access to them.
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  Um, and it really was a detriment to uh to the community and and the people who rely on those things.
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  So that's you know, that's that's a shame to me.
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  Um, so I think it's now important that we really do focus on the education side of that um and and the accountability.
• 31:36
  I definitely think the accountability has to be a big part of that.
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  Why do you think that uh I found that whether I'm talking or covering stories about autism, about chemicals and foods, about uh, and we're we're about to talk uh a little bit about glyphosate about that.
• 31:55
  It's the it seems to be the Maha moms that are fueling it.
• 32:01
  And what I love about the Maha movement is it's not most people who are heavily involved in the Maha movement are informed, they're not just uh, you know, obviously we live in a crazy social media age where people get on Facebook and it's us versus them, Republican versus Democrat.
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  But most uh most people in the Maha movement I've encountered, no matter what it is, we've talked about the different segments, they are very well informed.
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  Usually they have a personal story that fueled their interest.
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  Uh I've talked about how COVID woke me up, but that's nothing to do with Maha, like uh the Ma autism moms are uh, and I know you you've talked about um your kids having gluten issues and now um ironically, uh glyphosates affected that.
• 32:57
  But why do you think that is?
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  Why do you think that the moms are uh driving that?
• 33:04
  Well, I mean, I think you know, as with motherly instinct, we want to be able to find um find the thing that that fixes um you know a child's you know, pain, their injury, their hurt, you know, we want them to feel better.
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  Um, so I think that is a lot of it.
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  Um, you know, and and moms this isn't being sexist, but moms tend to do the cooking, they tend to do the grocery shopping.
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  Um, they tend to talk to other moms, you know, communicate with other people.
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  And so uh I think that's why moms as a whole um tend to pay attention to that.
• 33:40
  Um, you know, we we want the best for our kids, and so we we look for ways to um finding whatever whatever remedy that is.
• 33:51
  So obviously in the news, uh and most people who are listening to this show and people who read uh what I write are interested in uh glyphosate, and I know um recently we went down to white oak pastures and uh Will Harris, who is one of the regenerative pioneers, and I've it's interesting because earlier in my career I was a um sports writer, a covered pro in college sports, and I was always excited about interviewing pro athletes, and now I get excited about interviewing regenerative farmers, and that's a positive about the culture we've gotten there out.
• 34:39
  And Molly Engelhardt talks about you know, there's victories, but a lot of work needs to be done.
• 34:46
  Um I agree with that, and it's on the same side with the regenerative farming and the shift to regenerative farming.
• 34:56
  A lot needs to be done, but it's fascinating that people like Joel Salatin and Will Harris.
• 35:04
  Uh people are traveling all over the country to talk to them, and they're they're hiring them to come and to their events or even to their farms.
• 35:17
  So there's a shift, there's there's a growing interest in that, and we're gonna address that when we come back from our final break.
• 35:25
  We're gonna talk about how glyphosate is uh well, we'll talk about President Trump's recent glyphosate order, and we've recognized that glyphosate is here to stay.
• 35:38
  Chemicals are here to stay because of the big food, big ag.
• 35:45
  But that can be reversed by educating farmers and educating consumers, and it goes back to eating real food and understanding uh understanding that uh it can be done.
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  It's not going to happen overnight, but it can be done.
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  So we'll be back in a few moments.
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  Welcome back to the Maha Lowdown.
• 38:45
  I'm Jeff Lauderback with my guest RJ Webster, who's providing some really interesting insight on uh motherly instincts and uh growing your own food.
• 38:59
  And I think that's fascinating.
• 39:00
  I just uh I think before we dive into uh the next topic, which is uh glyphosate and how it's affected the food supply and the importance of again growing real food, eating real food.
• 39:16
  I just think it's interesting how you've evolved over time, and that's that's sparked an interest in you, and uh and uh we we probably will run out of time before we get into this part, but uh and I'll talk about it maybe in a few months.
• 39:35
  But as part of the Victory Garden Alliance, I'm gonna be having victory a victory garden here, and RJ is going to be reshaping my property.
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  It's uh only a quarter of an acre.
• 39:46
  It's down in the Appalachian foothills of southern Ohio and on the edge of a village.
• 39:51
  So behind the house is a neighborhood that years ago, decades ago used to be nothing but farmland across the
• 40:00
  Streets, nothing but hills and fields and farmland, and it's beautiful.
• 40:04
  And uh and eventually I want to have a bigger property so I could uh do more homesteading, but transforming uh no matter that's the point.
• 40:16
  You you can you could be in New York City on your in your high rise on your deck or or what well patio, little little patio with hardly any space, and at least do something to start the path to growing real food.
• 40:33
  Yeah, it just takes it just takes getting started.
• 40:36
  Uh it can be, you know, you start small, even just having the countertop uh herbs that you use to uh season your food with.
• 40:46
  Um, even starting as small as that is better than um, you know, spending the money at the grocery stores on those things who have been that they've been processed and been sitting on a shelf for who knows how long by the time they they um come into your kitchen.
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  And uh so you start there, you know, you get your um kind of your creative, you know, juices kind of flowing as to what you can then do next.
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  Um, you know, maybe you do some potted plants um or some hanging baskets.
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  Um you begin just to put your hands in the soil, and you just realize that maybe you um kind of love reconnecting with nature just by doing something so simple like that.
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  Um, you know, there's raised beds, um, there are ways of heaping the beds and using um you know something called uh Hugo culture um that is used where you use you know wood logs and different things, and you create a raised bed in there and you create the um the environment for your plants to be able to thrive and do well and reduces you know less watering and it also adds to the composition and the minerals and the nutrients that also go into the foods that are or the the plants that are needed to grow healthy.
• 42:01
  So there's a whole different way at whole there's endless ways that somebody can approach um growing plants on their own property.
• 42:08
  It doesn't you don't have to till up um you know a large section of your land uh in order to be able to have a garden, although you know, some people do, some people do raised beds.
• 42:19
  There's really no right or wrong.
• 42:22
  And of course, the key when you're doing that, whether it's a countertop herbs as a start or uh or raised beds or a little garden or growing something on your uh deck in the middle of New York City or your patio in New York City is uh raising it the right way.
• 42:45
  And we've talked a lot about glyphosate and chemicals.
• 42:48
  It's interesting because um out front.
• 42:52
  I'm probably not gonna mow my grass for another week because dandelions are starting to come in.
• 42:57
  And we now know that uh there's so many medicinal benefits for dandelions, and for years and years we were taught, and myself included until I got my wake-up call a few years ago.
• 43:12
  You spray them, their weeds, they're uh like in the back of my house right now, wild nettles taken over.
• 43:21
  And I'm gonna have to, or we will clean that up, but uh, but there's a purpose for it, it could be used.
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  And the key is not uh spraying.
• 43:32
  Uh you you've heard us talk about uh throughout the segment glyphosate, and I know some people or probably many people listening to this know what what it is, but just to recap it's glyphosate's used to kill weeds and dry crops before harvest, and glyphosate tolerant crops account for the majority of the corn soy and cotton acreage on American farms.
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  And then the news really fueling the move right now of this order we're about to talk about.
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  Monsanto bear, they're the only producer, uh U.S.
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  producer of glyphosate, which is a key ingredient in Roundup.
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  And it's the most widely used herbicide in history.
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  And today, this is staggering.
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  I remember when uh I'm reading some stats from a story I recently wrote.
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  280 million pounds of glyphosate are sprayed on 285 million acres of US farmland every year.
• 44:34
  And that, according to Center for Food Safety, which advocates for organic and sustainable food.
• 44:40
  And that's staggering because you know, we have a movement now.
• 44:46
  People know why I need to it's okay.
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  I need to eat more produce.
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  But you go to the grocery store and you don't know what is uh a lot of it sprayed with chemicals and the uh in the near future.
• 45:10
  I'm gonna have a segment on cattle ranching.
• 45:13
  And a lot of people, I didn't realize this till last year, year and a half.
• 45:18
  You go to the grocery store and get like uh Kroger ground beef.
• 45:23
  There's literally thousands of cows in that one pound, bits and pieces of thousands of cows.
• 45:29
  That's why it's uh that's a prime example of why it's important to find a local cattle rancher who raises grass-fed and raises regeneratively, because then you know you're getting that cow, you know how that cow was raised and that meat is nutrient dense.
• 45:48
  But that's I mean, that's uh again goes back to the that's part of the process.
• 45:52
  We're starting to learn more details, but uh but it's important to know to learn more about these chemicals.
• 46:03
  Well, I think actually it kind of brings up another topic is to be able to find locally sourced uh foods too, so that you're not relying on the grocery stores.
• 46:13
  Um one of the things that I did last summer, I was doing a landscaping job for a friend of mine who has a farm, and uh, you know, she's her and her husband are busy um, you know, with their regular full-time jobs as well as farming.
• 46:27
  And I, you know, worked out a deal with them where I would help uh keep the property up.
• 46:33
  Um in exchange for that, I get uh beef.
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  Uh you know, um, I get whatever you know, meat that I want to get from them, and I get to choose you know, the cut of the meat and all that, which is you know, a nice little um kind of a nice way of I think doing business is to go is the barter system too, you know.
• 46:51
  Um so uh, but yeah, they're they're um very much in line in the way that we are, where they um live uh they they strive to live that clean, healthy living, and they raise their their animals that way too in a natural setting so that their animals are able to be healthy, and then in turn the foods that they are able to get from them, they know that they are eating clean food.
• 47:16
  And so um, but you know, I know you you locally you also try to shop around at some of the markets around here to find uh local sources that you can you know stock your kitchen with, especially meat and eggs and things like that.
• 47:33
  And about the glyphosate, uh President Trump, this was I think last month or time is flying by.
• 47:44
  It was earlier this month or in March, uh President Trump signed an executive order that propelled the domestic production of elemental phosphorus and glyphosate-based herbicides, herbicides on February 18th, and that uh was part of the Defense Production Act.
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  And I won't go into details about that because that's there could be a segment completely on that because that's about uh national security or the deemed need for national security related to that.
• 48:21
  But obviously, that uh created created a windstorm with a lot of Maha proponents on uh because there's such a there's already the corporate capture government agencies and a lot of debate over the control of big pharma and uh big food, big ag.
• 48:46
  But just putting that aside, I think it's interesting.
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  And I had John Clark on here um a few episodes ago as well, and he talked about how, and he's an attorney and regenerative cattle farmer, a Maha proponent.
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  He has a book coming out, uh, The War on Farmers, how corporations activists and climate alarmists are fueling a global food crisis.
• 49:10
  He he pointed out, which I I like I love about being positive, but this is important that more people are becoming educated about glyphosate as a result of Trump's order, which is a there's kind of an irony to that, because it created a fury, and but it became more and more people are coming to realize uh well, like John said, the more that people learn about it, the more they seek to avoid it and scrutinize their food labels, the more they avoid it, the more they purchase trustworthy organic alternatives, therefore thereby increasing demand for those safer offerings.
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  And I know when we were down in um Bluffton, Georgia, and I recommend uh all of you listening if you haven't uh
• 50:00
  Checked into White Oak Pastures down at Bluffton, Georgia and Will Harris.
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  Actually, in the uh article based on this show, I'll put it a link to that.
• 50:11
  He talked about uh how ultimately it's going to be the consumer to drive.
• 50:16
  He said all the farmers could work, but that's going to take a long time to, and you don't just uh switch to regenerative farming and the soil, because that's been decades of the soil being destroyed.
• 50:33
  Soil health, but ultimately it's going to be the consumer.
• 50:38
  He he pointed this out, and I know John Clark has and several other people.
• 50:43
  It's going to be consumer demand, people realize that I don't want this type of food, and I'm going to seek out I'm only going to buy from places that offer that.
• 50:54
  Right.
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  I mean, I think you and I are two living examples of that.
• 50:58
  Um, I know during during the summer, especially, I take full advantage of uh going to local markets.
• 51:04
  Uh, there are local farmers uh in my area that I will go and um go to the fruits, the the fruit and vegetable stand.
• 51:12
  So I I do think that there is a lot of truth to that when they fill it at the grocery stores, you know, when the the manufacturing companies uh begin to be affected from it financially, that will hopefully help drive some of the change also.
• 51:28
  So simply put, it's you're not going to get rid of glyphosate and chemicals because glyphosate glyphosate is like the buzzword now, but there are plenty of there, there's herbicides and pesticides are even worse according to medical studies than uh glyphosate.
• 51:46
  I know that paracat's a prime example of that, and that's I have that down as a subject for a future show.
• 51:53
  The chemicals aren't going to be going away, but educating farmers to the importance and the fact that they can farm regeneratively.
• 52:03
  That's I know Will Harris talks that's his big push is to because a lot of farmers think they can't do it because you know their grandfather did it, their father did it, and they think they can't make it.
• 52:17
  So it's important that educational farmers, and it's important for government, the government to help.
• 52:22
  I know the 700 million dollars.
• 52:25
  Uh, there is a pilot program announced earlier this year by HHS and USDA, which is a start because it encourages, I know RFK Jr.
• 52:35
  said it provides an off ramp for farmers to uh go from conventional to regenerative.
• 52:42
  So it's about educating farmers and educating consumers, and uh a story I recently wrote, which I'm gonna do a deeper dive on, and we'll talk about this.
• 52:56
  And I think we're about to run out of time.
• 52:58
  We could sit here for a couple hours, but um the USDA and HHS recently announced the or they did it in January, but they started promoting it recently.
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  Uh product of USA labeling for American farmers and ranchers.
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  So, what that means, a lot of people, and this is all about education again.
• 53:23
  A lot of people didn't never realize the uh like all the bits and pieces in one and that's staggering when you think about it.
• 53:31
  The you go from there's one pound of beef.
• 53:40
  One pound of beef and uh thousands of cows in that.
• 53:47
  That's just uh I I couldn't believe that.
• 53:49
  But that's why this is so important.
• 53:51
  The uh because we've lost uh I know they they pointed out the US has lost more than a thousand 100,000 family farms since 2017.
• 54:03
  The national cattle herd is at a five-year low, and consumer demand for beef has increased nine percent over the past decade.
• 54:14
  And the product of USA label, I mean, we've been uh lied to about so many things over the last uh few years, or well, over years and years, but it over the last few years it's just come to light, and essentially uh what it is is uh product of USA, so it shows that it's made and produced, grown strictly from the United States, and you know it's regenerative practices, you know where the beef comes from.
• 54:53
  Right.
• 54:54
  Uh as a consumer, I mean it's it's it's frustrating and it and it actually is um even makes me angry, you know, to think um for years and years we thought we were doing right by buying um products that say made in the USA, and you know, later on to find out well, only a certain percentage of that is US, it was really USA.
• 55:18
  Um, and so uh you know, we just feel gymed, we feel lied to.
• 55:22
  Um, and it's it's frustrating, you know, because um thankfully things are just now coming to light.
• 55:30
  Well, I see we're coming to the end of the show, and uh I wish we could sit here and talk for way more.
• 55:39
  That's why I love this show.
• 55:40
  It spent stems more ideas, and but it thank you to uh RJ for stepping in and uh preserving my voice because even though I'm feeling better uh compared to last week, I don't think I could have made it for 52 minutes.
• 55:56
  No, you definitely even sound a lot better just between yesterday and today, but you you definitely are still worse.
• 56:02
  So uh I'm gonna put a lot of the details, including this product of USA labeling.
• 56:08
  So listeners could have more details about it or be able to go to links.
• 56:12
  I'm gonna and anything we talked about in this show.
• 56:14
  I'm gonna put some links in the article that'll be on the Maha Lowdown page.
• 56:20
  And uh next week, uh next week we will have something specifically on cattle ranching.
• 56:30
  Uh, I'm trying to iron that out.
• 56:33
  But um, we appreciate you joining us and thanks for uh dealing with uh the scratchiness and I'm excited about this.
• 56:42
  Uh and we encourage you to eat real food and we'll just wrap that up there.
• 56:49
  Um Jeff Lauderback, and that's the Maha Loden.