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Episode 36: The Hogwarts Founders · Revelio: A Wizarding World Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to episode thirty six of Ravellio for
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  Speaker 1: January twenty second, twenty twenty six. I'm Amy, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Nicole, and I'm Tom.
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  Speaker 1: He's back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, happy new year.
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  Speaker 1: Back from your world travels.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my Europe travels.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we're glad to have you back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm happy. It's good to be back. And
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  Speaker 2: also like kicking off the year and yeah, like excited
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  Speaker 2: for what's to come this year. Lots of things, I'm sure,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, just you know, how do you guys spend
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  Speaker 2: your holidays? Is it all good?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it's quiet, but that's not a bad thing. No, no, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was good. A little bit of time to relax
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  Speaker 1: and reset.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm yeah, we all need that recharge time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So in this episode we are going to be
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  Speaker 2: discussing the Hogwarts founders. But first.
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  Speaker 3: Listening to w W in the Wizarding Wireless Network now
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  Speaker 3: for the latest headlines. So we do have a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of news for this episode. So first wanted to
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  Speaker 3: mention if you weren't already aware, but Tom Felton is
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  Speaker 3: nominated this year for Favorite Broadway Debut for I Heart Awards.
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  Speaker 3: So the iHeart Music Awards. So this is one of
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  Speaker 3: the fan voted categories. So if you've never voted for
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  Speaker 3: the iHeart Awards before, there's always certain categories that are
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  Speaker 3: socially voted on by fans, and so you can vote
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  Speaker 3: daily on the website. So if you just google like
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  Speaker 3: iHeart Awards, it'll take you to the voting. You can
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  Speaker 3: vote in each of the categories that are available to
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  Speaker 3: vote in, so like this Broadway debut up to fifty
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  Speaker 3: votes per day and the voting will close on March
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  Speaker 3: nineteenth at eleven fifty nine pm Pacific time, and the
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  Speaker 3: iHeart Awards this year era on Thursday, March twenty six
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  Speaker 3: at eight pm Eastern on Facts, so there's still a
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  Speaker 3: lot of time to get in there and vote. I've
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  Speaker 3: been voting daily for Tom for that award.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even realize this was a category.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like this might be voted like other years. This
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  Speaker 3: might be the first year that this category. I don't
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  Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but this definitely wasn't a category
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  Speaker 3: they always had. And yeah, there's a lot of I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he definitely has some good company in the nominations, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: my votes are all going to Tom for this category.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, so I would say, definitely vote for Tom.
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  Speaker 3: It'd be really cool for him to win. And while
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  Speaker 3: you're there, vote in some of the other categories as well.
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  Speaker 3: We've talked a lot about how we are all swifties here.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor has quite a few nominations, some other great people.
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  Speaker 3: I'm for your fans of Wicked. They're also have a
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  Speaker 3: nomination there for film soundtracks, so definitely check that out.
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  Speaker 3: And like I said, you can vote daily up until
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  Speaker 3: March nineteenth.
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  Speaker 2: Cool.
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  Speaker 3: And then my favorite piece of news actually just broke
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  Speaker 3: the day before we're recording. We found out that Hans Zimmer,
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  Speaker 3: who is arguably I think I've mentioned this before in
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  Speaker 3: a podcast one of, if not my favorite film composer,
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  Speaker 3: as well as the composer team Bleeding Fingers, was announced
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  Speaker 3: as the composers for our HBO Harry Potter TV series.
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  Speaker 3: I was completely shocked by this. I I was not
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  Speaker 3: expecting someone like Hans to take this on.
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  Speaker 1: No, I didn't make a big name. I thought, oh,
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  Speaker 1: was that gonna go like a more like random route,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, I didn't think it
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  Speaker 1: would be like someone that we know of doing these
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  Speaker 1: like epic scores. So that's really cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I expected to probably know the name
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  Speaker 3: of who it is because I think of a lot
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  Speaker 3: of like I just listened to a lot of film scores,
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  Speaker 3: so I feel like I just know a lot of
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  Speaker 3: film composers and TV composers and there are some that
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  Speaker 3: are quite big in the TV space, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: so I really kind of thought that, but I just yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I am completely shocked, but I am also like so
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  Speaker 3: thrilled and excited. And I mean, if anybody can like
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  Speaker 3: step into big fills of big shoes of John Williams,
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  Speaker 3: it's Hans Zimmer, the other composer team that's going to
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  Speaker 3: be working with him bleeding Fingers. They're obviously not as
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  Speaker 3: well known, but they recently did some scoring for I
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  Speaker 3: believe it was BBC's The Planet. It was like one
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  Speaker 3: of those BBC theory series. While already tripping over the words,
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  Speaker 3: we're recording later at night than we usually do, and
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  Speaker 3: so this might be a fun episode, but.
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  Speaker 1: Lot usually when I gets n hinged.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I'm I'm excited, but I'm like
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  Speaker 3: so curious to see like a Hans Zimmer. Right. If
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  Speaker 3: you're not familiar with names, some of the films that
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  Speaker 3: you have definitely probably heard his scores for is The
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  Speaker 3: Lion King, Interstellar, Dune the I can't think he did
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  Speaker 3: a lot of Marvels. Not Marvel Yeah, Pirates of the Caribbean.
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  Speaker 3: He did a lot of DC films scores, so like
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  Speaker 3: Man of Steel, Batman Versus Superman, Wonder Woman, that's just
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  Speaker 3: a name. I mean, he's also did Gladiator. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there's there. He has just got such a repertoire behind him.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, it'll be really interesting to see what he
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  Speaker 3: does with Wizarding World, because if you're familiar with his scores,
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  Speaker 3: they're very epic. He's just very epic in his scoring.
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  Speaker 3: And I have seen online that some people are a
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  Speaker 3: little nervous about him taking this on and nervous that
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  Speaker 3: the scores will be too epic for what this is.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I have faith in him.
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  Speaker 1: I think it'll be good. I mean, Pirates of the
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  Speaker 1: Caribbean is arguably one of my favorite film scores besides
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  Speaker 1: like you know, Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it'll be cool. I'm looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to it.
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  Speaker 3: Tom, you seem not so sure.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's uh, you guys already.
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  Speaker 1: Bring us down to Earth.
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  Speaker 2: Tom, Yeah, I don't know, like yeah, I mean it's
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of like like you Saidnegal, maybe it's like
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  Speaker 2: maybe too epic for what this is going to be
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  Speaker 2: because it's not Game of Thrones. It's not something that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of like that you know, has that epic quality
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  Speaker 2: to it. It's you know, very much like this starts
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  Speaker 2: out like kind of like more of a child you know,
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  Speaker 2: driven story, and then it obviously becomes of age and
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  Speaker 2: it just gets darker. But yeah, it just you know,
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  Speaker 2: really feels like they want to again put their twist
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  Speaker 2: on there's the story. They're not trying to replicate the films,
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  Speaker 2: so it really seems like they're going towards that route
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  Speaker 2: and they're just going to put a new spin on it,
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  Speaker 2: maybe like honoring what was already done, but like also
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  Speaker 2: you know, putting their own imprint, like just like we
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  Speaker 2: had with the video games, and we had with the
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  Speaker 2: plays and everything. They all have their own theme songs,
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  Speaker 2: Likewig Hedwig's theme has been almost exclusive to the films
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  Speaker 2: because that's what, you know, encompasses that world. So it's
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  Speaker 2: interesting to see what the theme song for this TV
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  Speaker 2: show is going to be because I'm sure it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be differ, maybe includes a nod or two to
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  Speaker 2: the classics, but obviously it's not going to be the same.
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  Speaker 2: So so yeah, we'll see what happens. I love the
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  Speaker 2: Pirates of the Caribbean soundtrack too, A big fan of
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  Speaker 2: the of the you know, of the franchise as well,
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  Speaker 2: So ye, yes, well.
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  Speaker 3: And I think, you know, I just want to add too,
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  Speaker 3: like because I think some of Hans's most recognizable work
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  Speaker 3: to like the Masses, would be those big his big
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  Speaker 3: epic scores, but not all of his scores are those
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  Speaker 3: big epic adventure films as well, Like, he has scored
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  Speaker 3: a lot of like documentary kind of things as well.
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  Speaker 3: He also did the score for the movie like Hidden Figures.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he's also done the score for the Da
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  Speaker 3: Vinci Code, Like He's done these other things that it's
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  Speaker 3: not all like Interstellar and Dune, and you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of that is just like some stuff that's
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  Speaker 3: become what he's most known for. So I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he has also done these more I guess quieter, and
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  Speaker 3: I think we have moments of Yeah, I think we
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  Speaker 3: have moments in Harry Potter though that are worthy of
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  Speaker 3: those big epic, you know things as well.
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  Speaker 1: I was just thinking, like I can hear in my
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  Speaker 1: head what the later seasons would sound like, like going
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  Speaker 1: that more like dark route and like the epicness that
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  Speaker 1: he's known for, right. I think it's just it'll be
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  Speaker 1: interesting to hear what he does with like the first
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  Speaker 1: two seasons where we do have that more understated feel,
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  Speaker 1: and see like how that builds up. Like I feel
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  Speaker 1: like this kind of shows the direction that they want
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  Speaker 1: to go, and I don't think it's a huge surprise
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  Speaker 1: that maybe they would start setting it up for that
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  Speaker 1: like darker feel and later seasons just knowing HBO. Yeah
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  Speaker 1: we're on Netflix.
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  Speaker 3: Netflix or whoever it's gonna be whatever was I don't
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  Speaker 3: know whoever it was, but they posted on HBO. It'd
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  Speaker 3: still be a sub HBO. But I will say too,
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  Speaker 3: I think that. I mean, I have had the pleasure
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  Speaker 3: of seeing Hans Zimmer in concert before, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: he is known for a lot of like taking risks
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  Speaker 3: with things and using different sounds and all of that,
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  Speaker 3: which I think might be what some people are getting
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  Speaker 3: a little nervous about. But like again, he has a
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  Speaker 3: lot of scores that are purely orchestral as well, like
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  Speaker 3: if that's the feel that you're more used to in
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  Speaker 3: the Wizarding World, because John Williams typically takes a more
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  Speaker 3: orchestral approach right when it comes to the Wizarding World scores.
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  Speaker 3: And also too, I think for anybody that's nervous about
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  Speaker 3: somebody who's not John Williams taking on Harry Potter, I
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  Speaker 3: do like strongly urge you to listen to the Hogwarts
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  Speaker 3: Legacy soundtrack if you have not, because it's so good.
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  Speaker 3: That is obvious. It's so good. It captures the spirit
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  Speaker 3: of the Wizarding World. It captures the spirit of what
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  Speaker 3: John Williams has done. And obviously we have other composers
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  Speaker 3: that scored Harry Potter, right, Like, it wasn't all John Williams,
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  Speaker 3: So we've already experienced other composers playing a role here.
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  Speaker 3: But I think, like obviously Hogwarts Legacy was the first
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  Speaker 3: kind of not movie score that we had, and I
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  Speaker 3: think it was so good and they did such a
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  Speaker 3: good job. And obviously for a video game too, sometimes
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  Speaker 3: you do have that like epic mess right, And so
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 2: That, yeah, the soundtracks for the Harry Potter games are phenomenal,
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  Speaker 2: Like the first ones are so epic and they're you know,
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  Speaker 2: they are so like I don't know, they're engraved in
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  Speaker 2: our brains already. And you know, I think about I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, the Prisoner of Azkaban soundtrack, the intro, like
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  Speaker 2: that is so like a big and it's so good,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, it's totally different from Hedwig's meme. Like
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  Speaker 2: I said, like we might hear you know, the tons,
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  Speaker 2: so we might hear that like very like we heard
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  Speaker 2: it in The Fantastic Beasts, because every every composer that
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  Speaker 2: took on the role after John Williams made it his
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  Speaker 2: own soundtrack and it was very different from what came before.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously this is not even you know, this is
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  Speaker 2: not even within that same cinematic universe. This is something
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  Speaker 2: completely different. So they have that liberty to really play
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  Speaker 2: around with it more and expand it and do it more,
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  Speaker 2: you know, faithful to the books in that regard, and
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  Speaker 2: and you know, like just make it completely different, just
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  Speaker 2: like you feel Howard's legacy is something completely different but
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  Speaker 2: still honoring what came before it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think two of what the director said
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  Speaker 3: too about right with this the TV series, like really
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  Speaker 3: wanting to make it, Like what was it like in
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  Speaker 3: like natural like in naturalism or whatever it is. He
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  Speaker 3: said that was kind of a little nervous. That made
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  Speaker 3: us a little nervous, right, But I think if that's
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  Speaker 3: like the groundedness or the realism. Maybe it was realism
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  Speaker 3: that he said or natural whatever it was, but I
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  Speaker 3: think that, yeah, that's what do you mean? This is
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  Speaker 3: this is not a real world, but it's real to us,
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  Speaker 3: but you know what I mean. And so I think though,
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  Speaker 3: like in what makes a great film and a great
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  Speaker 3: TV show and a great everything is when your film
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  Speaker 3: or your your composer is able to like do their
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  Speaker 3: own thing but also tap into like the overall vision
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  Speaker 3: that they're the director. Okay, here we go again with
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  Speaker 3: not being able to talk tonight with what the director
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  Speaker 3: wants to do, right, And I think, like Hans has
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  Speaker 3: so much experience within this field, in this wheelhouse, and
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  Speaker 3: I just I'm excited. I was I audibly gasped when
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  Speaker 3: I saw on Instagram yesterday because I was not expecting it.
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  Speaker 3: But but yeah, more to come on that. And I
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  Speaker 3: think it's also exciting too because it just shows like
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  Speaker 3: production on this is moving along, and it just makes
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  Speaker 3: it more real, I think every time we get any
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  Speaker 3: kind of announcement, you know, for it. So and then lastly,
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  Speaker 3: I've noticed recently that news outlets are starting to report
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  Speaker 3: on everything that Universal Orlando has planned this year, and
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  Speaker 3: some outlets are, you know, saying they're celebrating the twenty
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  Speaker 3: fifth anniversary of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone with
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  Speaker 3: special events throughout twenty twenty six. But all of the
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  Speaker 3: events are the same things that we see.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, where's a celebration of Harry Potter in January? Huh right,
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  Speaker 1: Like it's just a special that we want.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, don't give into the click baity headlines.
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  Speaker 3: It's literally all the same events that we get every
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  Speaker 3: year at Universal, but still excited about them. So kicking
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  Speaker 3: off strong will be the return of Butter Beer Season,
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  Speaker 3: which I know we talked about last year. Seems to
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  Speaker 3: get bigger and better with every single year, so very
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  Speaker 3: curious to see what it brings this year. The season's
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  Speaker 3: kind of long, I mean if at Universal Orlando. It's
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  Speaker 3: going to be running from March first through May thirty first.
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  Speaker 3: So far, no details have been released yet on what
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  Speaker 3: butter beer things we will see this year, so more
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  Speaker 3: to come, and then from August first to September first,
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be back to Hogwarts season. Now this
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  Speaker 3: I will say, I think this is new. I went
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  Speaker 3: to Universal Orlando on Back to Hogwarts Day last year
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  Speaker 3: and it was like business as usual, like it was
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  Speaker 3: you would never know that it was like a normal
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  Speaker 3: or you know, a special day or anything. So I
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  Speaker 3: do think this, whatever this is, is new, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't necessarily think everything that's part of it is new.
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  Speaker 3: I think maybe they're just calling it something new. So
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  Speaker 3: we do know. This is running from August first to
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  Speaker 3: September first. There's going to be exclusive food, That's what
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  Speaker 3: I'm really interested about because I think that's really new.
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  Speaker 3: There is going to be a limited time projection show,
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  Speaker 3: which I'm wondering if this is just going to be
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  Speaker 3: the standard like Hogwarts House kind of show they do
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  Speaker 3: on the Castle or if maybe we will get something new.
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  Speaker 3: And apparently there's going to be social media photo ops
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  Speaker 3: as well, so that'll be interesting. I guess to see
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  Speaker 3: what they do there in the parks. But yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: I guess more to come on what that looks like
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  Speaker 3: as well. And then in the fall it'll be Dark
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  Speaker 3: Art season again, so there will be the Dark Arts
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  Speaker 3: at Hogwarts Castle Projection Show coming back to Hogsmead and
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  Speaker 3: our favorite Death Eaters will you know, of course, be
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  Speaker 3: back for another year of roaming the stories of Diagona
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  Speaker 3: and creating all of the lovely thirst traps that we
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  Speaker 3: see on TikTok.
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  Speaker 1: Roaming or romancing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I think a little bit of both, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, so that will be coming back this year.
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  Speaker 3: And then from November fourteenth through January third, it will
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  Speaker 3: be Christmas time in the Wizarding World, so they'll be
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  Speaker 3: as usual, yes, you know, so gorgeous, the festive decoor
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  Speaker 3: that will be throughout all three lands again, so hasmy
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  Speaker 3: diagon Alley and Ministry of Magic at Epic Universe. The
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  Speaker 3: Frog Choir and Celestina will be performing special seasonal medleys
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  Speaker 3: during this time. And then the Magic of Christmas at
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  Speaker 3: Hogwarts Castle Projection Show will be back, which highlights traditional
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  Speaker 3: holiday moments featured throughout the books and the films. So
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  Speaker 3: lots coming per usual.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems very much, you know, on par with
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  Speaker 2: what has come years prior. It's a little disappointing up
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  Speaker 2: to now, like not seeing much of a celebration, Like
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  Speaker 2: I know they're doing a lot of things for the
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  Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings twenty fifth anniversary. They're you know,
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  Speaker 2: re releasing the extended films in theaters, you know.
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  Speaker 3: With popcorn.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw them. Yeah they're great, and new posters
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  Speaker 2: like everything, and I would you know, I wish we
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  Speaker 2: got that as well, like a celebration of the whole saga,
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  Speaker 2: not just you know, because they tend to always like
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  Speaker 2: kind of lean into sorcers Stone and be like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: yeah this is school like. But you know, it would
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  Speaker 2: be good too. I know it's a lot more movies
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  Speaker 2: than The Lord of the Rings, a lot more screen time.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it's time for us to get like
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  Speaker 2: a really good year of celebrations for you know, the
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  Speaker 2: film franchise. So I'm really hoping there are a lot
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  Speaker 2: of surprises because we haven't gotten much to this point.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, I was hoping the year would start off
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  Speaker 2: with you know, some good exciting news, but no, not yet.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know either us. Yeah, I have to
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  Speaker 2: do something.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty five twenty five is a big anniversary.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's even bigger than thirty anniversary or
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  Speaker 2: I think the twenty Yeah, you know, it's like a
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  Speaker 2: quarter Kuala, right, like.
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  Speaker 3: Just much safer. Yeah, it's like twenty five and fifty.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like, obviously are big.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we better get something this year. I hope.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I guess we'll see. If you know,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: I'm maybe more things will be released, like I wonder
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: if they'll do maybe like a merch collection or just something.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I got really excited when I saw
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: the headline that I saw about and it said celebrating
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god. And then I
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: opened it and I'm reading this article and I'm like, Okay,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: granted that might not be Universal Orlando's fault. It could
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: be the fall of the news outlet. And I'm not
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: going to say who it was, but it could be
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: the news outlet that I saw that they were you know,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: obviously clicks and everything. Itrew it drew me to click
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: it because I.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Was like, oh my god, that's what they want. Yeah.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Ye, So we'll see more to come, and I'm sure
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: more things will be announced outside of the parks of
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: you know, things going on. And then actually, speaking of universe,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Orlando too. I saw actually right after me Amy and
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Carolyn recorded our last episode, I saw that there's some
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: new and it's actually really on theme with our episode today.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: There's some new Hogwarts House themed ice lollies. Universal yes, yeah,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: and I it's so funny because you know, not that
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: I would ever use like a popsicle to sort me,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: but the flavor for Slytherin is like two of my
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: favorite flavors and it's exactly what I would pick. It
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: was coconut and macha, and like, I'm just like, wow, yeah,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I can't remember what the other ones are off the
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: top of my head, but they look really good. So Amy,
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: you might have to check it out when you're there
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: and report back.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Go Look, but I will probably need my my ice cream,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: so I mean you got to go to Florian's.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Can also have more than one you know well you
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: know yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Most situation of watching my sugar intake, Yeah.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would probably choose I would probably choose Florian too,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: But I mean just going out the window for the
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: four days I'm there, I'm I'm eating ice cream.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I don't care for sure.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: But yeah, well you know, if you don't get to
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: try them this trip. We'll try them eventually. I feel
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: like there it seems like they're around to stay. And
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: they're very similar to like the butter beer like popsicle
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: that came out. They're just themed to the different houses
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: with different flavors. So very cool. And then yeah, the
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: last bit of kind of news is that our next
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: installment of the Harry Potter Full Cast Additions on Autumn
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: has just been released. As of when we're recording this episode,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: it was released a couple of days ago. We're all
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: the way up to Prisoner of azk Van, So yeah,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: it's now available for your listening pleasure over on audible.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Mm I'm buy.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: So I'm still on the last couple chapters of Sorcerers Stone.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: So it's just I want to listen and pay attention
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: and so I you know, I try to do it
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: while I'm doing tasks, but then I just forget about it,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know. So, yeah, but it's available, and.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I mean there's no rush, you can you can enjoy
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: it at your own time, at your own pass. I
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: mean that's the whole gest of it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, yeah, that's the news.
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• 24:08
  Speaker 1: All right, for our main discussion this episode, we're talking
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: about the Hogwarts founders, so real quick, before we dive
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: into each of the founders, some background information here. So
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Hogwarts was founded at some point in the tenth century AD.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: We know in nineteen ninety two. Professor Binns says the
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: school was founded quote over one thousand years ago, and
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: hp lexicon estimates that that would be around nine hundred
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: and ninety a d. We know, the four founders obviously
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: were friends and shared a dream to make the world's
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: best magic school. And during this time period, which is
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: in Wizards, we're living in fear of persecution. You know,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: we obviously had the witch hunts and witch trial going
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: on all over the place at that point. But there
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: was a need to educate young witches and wizards away
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: from the eyes of muggles, you know, so that they
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: wouldn't get caught in this situation. So the school was
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: built in the Scottish Highlands and protected with enchantments so
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: that passing muggles would see it only as a rundown
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: shack and not be able to get inside. But eventually,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: you know, as the four friends were trying to build
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: up this school, they struggled on agreeing with who would
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: be eligible to be admitted to the school and get
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: that education. So that's when they came up with the
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: sorting system, each of the founders taking students into their
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: house to teach. Obviously, at modern Hogwarts, the heads of
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: all the houses teach all the students, not just their
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: own house. So at some point along the way, you know,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: things shifted a little bit, probably after the four founders
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: were gone. But yeah, what.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I mean, I think that we'll
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: talk about this more later, but I think really the
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: big issue was like one of them disagreed on who
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: would be eligible to come too. But really, yeah, well, yeah,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: we'll tell you about that a little bit. But I
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: think that, yeah, I think that, you know, they the
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: whole reason why we see like these characteristics for the
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: houses is because each of them had different you know,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: personality and skill sets that they really wanted to nurture
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: in the students and so that those then became the
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: basis for their houses. But yeah, I mean, like you said, Amy,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: it's like we have all of that, but at the
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: end of the day, like everybody teaches all of them.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: So did it really then become about like nurture those
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: characteristics versus just actually sorting based on characteristics that people
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: already you know, had, because if everybody's teaching everybody, then
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: you're not differentiating to nurture those certain characteristics. So I
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: would agree that it was probably once the founders were
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: out of the picture, it then became more about just
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: these are the characteristics of who we want in that house,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: and you'll just naturally nurture those things, right because you
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: have that characteristic already.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Right, and you're surrounded by people who also have that characteristic.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: So yeah, yes, yeah.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: That makes sense, which brings us to house emblems. So
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: obviously we know the lion for gryffindor the serpent or
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the snake for Slytherin, the badger for hubble Puff, and
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the eagle for raven Claw. Where do we think these
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: animals came from? You know, were they like just favored animals?
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Where they patronis forms are they like from existing family cress, Like,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: what's the deal here?
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: I mean I think for Gryffindor and Slytherin, it's like
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: probably more like obvious. I mean, especially Slytherin, right, I
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: think like if we were going really obvious, right, then
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: like for raven Claw, it would be a raven not
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: an eagle. So I do really wonder, like, yeah, I
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: do really wonder where that came from. But I think
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: for Slytherin it's makes a lot of sense. So we
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: know that like salas our Slytherin and his family could
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: speak parcel tongue, which obviously a snake language, right, so
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: it would make sense that him and you know, he
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: would just develop this strong association with serpents. We also
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: learned when we got knowledge about the other you know,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: other wizarding schools and ilver Morny in particular, that Salazar
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: created his own wand and it was riddled with snake stuff, right.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: He used snake wood, he used a bas core. He
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: just was a snaky kind of guy. And you know,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: and I think this is really cool because he could
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: like talk to his wand in parcel tongue because it
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: was made of like this basilisk corn and everything, and
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: so I think that I could not imagine any other
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: animal being the how like, because I think even an
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: s right, and s looks like a snake. His name
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: is slither In. What do snakes do? They slither? Right,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: So it's like I just think, Yeah, So like just
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: wanted to get Slytherin out of the way there, because
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: I think that one's very obvious.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think to gryffindor same deal, it's
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: kind of of more obvious. And that like the griffin
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: is mostly a lion, like has got most of the
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: body parts of a lion, and lions and Griffins align
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: with that like strength.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: It's not so in your face as Slytherin, but it
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense too that it's a lion. Yeah,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: also because of you know, how noble a lion is
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: and how like you know, the presence and it's intimidating.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: And it's also like you know like King of of
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know, the jungle of name.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: The Sahara.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's kind of like you know, they have
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: like they're very proud as well, and they're kind of
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: like you know, so you can you can see it
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: it does make sense for it to be. It could
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: be other animals as well. It's not as obvious as Lytherin,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I think it's it's a it's a good
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: you know, parallel between you know them and the characteristic
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: and the traits that they have with a lion.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I guess, like, do you think that the founders were
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: just like that in tune with themselves and their characteristics
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: to be like, ah, yes, a lion represents me well,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: like because they had to have picked these.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean huh. Maybe it just was their
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: favorite animals. Like I can see Helga Hufflepuff really enjoying
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: a cute little badger, you know.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Like petting a badger at home.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I respect the badgers and all the hard work.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: They do, ye animal, and ravens are very clever, They're
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: very smart.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, except there their animal isn't a raven the.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Eagles again again, yes, yeah, but it does make sense
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: for it to be a raven as well.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I think it would have. I think it would have
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: made more sense kind of just given based on what
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: you just said, Like ravens have like you, like you
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: just said, they're known for the intelligence and all.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: That like curiosity too.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, so yeah, why would we go with it?
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, eagles are also very intelligent birds.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: They're mighty and too like mm hmm. But maybe an
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: eagle would even make more sense with gryffindor two. I
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: think about it, like so grand and it's you know,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: in a griffin is part egle. Oh there we go.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: They can't have two birds, no, you know, so someone
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: had to give in. And I could see like if
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I was growing a raven, Clyde be like, well, obviously
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I get the bird because my name is literally and claw,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: so I get the bird.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: And it even makes more sense because of that.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: And again it would have made even more sense if
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: it was a gosh darn raven.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah it's not called eagle claw, yeah right.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Or maybe it's just like because it made too much
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: sense for it to be a raven.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: It was too honous in your face, like snakes and Slytherin.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, She's like, I don't want to associate with that,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: like he can. I'm gonna I'm gonna change the status
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: quaw and make it.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: An ego because I'm smart, because I'm clever and I'm smart,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna I'm not gonna be so obvious.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I think outside the box. Whereas you know, Salas are
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: over there.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: He's like, it looks like a pick.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: What else could Slytherin be? Can you imagine anything else?
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Like, no, no, a lizard? No, no, it.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: All makes sense.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: It always had to be a snake. Yeah, but yeah,
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: the badger is an interesting one too, of like where
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: did that come from? And I know that you're going
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: to talk a little bit more about the Badger in
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: a little bit here, Amy when you talk about Hufflepuff.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I could see I think they were all
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: you know, I think, well, and we'll talk about this
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: as we go through each of them, but I think
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: they were all kind of known as being, you know,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: very intelligent and the greatest witcher wizard of like the
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: age and everything. And I could totally see there being
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: more thought behind it, and it seemed like for them,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: characteristics and personality traits seemed to be such a big
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: importance to them, right, Like so I could see wanting to,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: you know, if we're going to make these houses, of
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: course we need to have an emblem or like a
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: crest of our house. And a lot of people do
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: gravitate towards animals, and I could see them being like,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: let's think of animals that embody the characteristics all of
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: these houses. But interesting too that they all went with
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: non magical animals as well.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, m hmm, yeah, that's interesting, Like you think of Gryffindor,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: would have been just as easy to just stick a
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: griffin on there, just like could have been a raven.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so there was some reason, I'm assuming behind
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: all of these.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: But yeah, there's a reason for everything, Yeah, I think,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: m hm hm.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: So onto our first founder, Godrick Gryffindor. So first we're
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: gonna give it a little bit of an etymology to
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: the name. So Godreich of Old English Germanic origin God
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: meaning obviously god or ruler, and Rick meaning power, ruler
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: or king again goes very much in hand with the
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: lion as well, well, So it kind of like plays
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: along within those lines. And Gryffindor is a variation of
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: French words gryffin do or I'm burchering butchering it but
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: meaning golden griffin, probably referring to the house color with
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: gold and griffins also embody the power, strength and courage
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: that is a Gryffindor trait, So yeah makes sense. So
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: a little bit about its founder, Godrick Gryffindor. He was
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: born in a moorland village in England that will later
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: become known as Godric's Hollow. He gained renown as one
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: of the finest duellists of his era, mastering combat with
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: not only his wand but also a sword, believing it
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: dishonorable to use magic against muggles, and founding Hogwarts. He established,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: of course, the Gryffindor House, favoring students who displayed bravery, boldness,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: and moral courage. He also enchanted his own hat with
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: the other fan founders so students can be sorted long
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: after they were gone, which this was interesting because I
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: didn't know that it was his own hat. And so
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: he strongly supported the admission of margel Borne students, which,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: as we already discussed, led to a growing rift with
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Salasar Slytherin because as we know, he opposed Slytherin's discriminatory views,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: and it's a conflict that ultimately caused Lytherin to leave Hogwarts.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: And he commissioned a Goblin mate's silver sword set with
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Ruby's from Ragnuk the first later defended his rightful ownership
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: when goblins attempted to reclaim it. This is a sword
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: that would become known as the legendary Sword of Gryffindor.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: And then about his legacy, well, of course, uh okay,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: So he left his portrait guarding a secret passage on
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: the seventh floor, and then he of course left behind
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: the sorting hat and the sort of Gryffindor which appears
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: to any true Gryffindor in need. And later, as we
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: know towards the end of the story and the beginning
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: as well, in year two aids Harry Potter and later
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: on Nevill Lungbotton against Lord Woldemort, and later on Godriig's
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Hollow becomes a home to notable wizarding families such as
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Dumbledore's and the Potters, and this cement Gryffindor's lasting influence
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: on the wizarding history. So yeah, so next.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Up we're going to talk about my house founder sales
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: are Slytherin. So starting with the etymology for Salsar Slytherin.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: So the name Salazar obviously his first name, we typically
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: see it is used as a surname from Basque word
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Sala meaning hall or house in Sahar meaning old. It's
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: a toponemic name connected to the Salazar Valley in Navara,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Spain and was probably used by families originating there. Slytherin obviously,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: we kind of talked a little bit about this A
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: little obvious makes a lot of sense, used to convey
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: the serpentine nature of the character, and interestingly it's pronounced slither,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: but you could also see the word sly in the spelling,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: which also works for the character, and I would say
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: the house kind of in general. So Salazar was a
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: pure blood wizard, very noted for his cunning and determination,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: which would obviously go on to be main characteristics of
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Slytherin House. He was regarded as one of the greatest
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: wizards of the time, especially his ability as a parcel
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: mouth and a legitimens. As we you know, alluded to earlier,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Slytherin was the founder who really had a very different
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: view than all the others about, you know, what he
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: wanted Hogwarts to be. As Tom kind of just mentioned,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: in contrast to Goderich, Salazar really distrust distrusted muggle born
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: wizards and believed that only pure blood students should be
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: allowed to attend Hogwarts. So again, the other founders disagreed
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: with this, especially Godriic Gryffindor's town just mentioned who was
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: up until this moment actually Slytherin, who would have thought
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: the greatest friends.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how did this like conflict in thinking not come
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: up sooner? Mm hm when you think that this would
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: be something.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: If you think about Dumbledore and Grindewald, that kind of
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: like they had very contrary views, you know, as they evolved,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: but they you know, they were very tight. Yeah. I
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: think a lot of these as you grow and as
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: you you know, as years pass by and you get
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: to know that person more, you know, you start digging
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: in to those things that might not really resonate with
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: you and you might feel strongly against. So I'm just
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: you know, I think it's just, you know, they saw
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: right through each other and kind of like realized how
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: different they were ultimately, And it happens a lot with friendships.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I'm surprised though to hear that
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: they were besties, to be honest, kind of like you know,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: takes me back to those like very fan fakes. But yeah, yeah.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Well I think too it could it be that it's
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: like you might you might know of this, you know,
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: I think of like, you know, when we talked about
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: like the Malfoys and stuff, and obviously you know their
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: obsession with pure blood and all of that, and it
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: seems like it was, you know, very similar with the Slytherins,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: and like they're offshoots of that family, and it could
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: have been a case where, you know, it was this
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: difference of opinion was known, but it didn't really come in,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: like come to a head and come into a conflict
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: between them until it was like put into practice, and
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: then Goderick was seeing Salazar like literally being discriminatory in
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: the school. It's like there's a difference, I think, you know,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, I know you've always you know, loved
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: your pure bloodness, but now you're actually putting it into
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: practice in a way that is excluding people and causing harm.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: And so then that's when it's like, Okay, at this point,
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: I can no longer tolerate these views of yourself.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: And so it is suggested that you know, and again
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: very you know, you just mentioned Tom that Gryffindor was
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: known for being really good at dueling, so it's I
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: saw that It's kind of been rumored that, you know,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Gryffindor and Slytherin didn't just like verbally argue about this disagreement,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: but it was such a disagreement that they dueled over it.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: And yeah, and ultimately that resulted in Slytherin leaving the
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: school behind. And I think this is really interesting because
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: in a you know, irony, Gryffindor and Slytherin houses we
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: see this through Harry's story are kind of the two
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: houses that get along the lease. And it's it's almost
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: like this just very interesting that that that's kind of
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: feud between the founders of those houses kind of carried on,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: you know, throughout the years with those two houses having
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: a feud, which I don't think is probably the case anymore,
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: you know, but definitely was for several years.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, if you think about the traits, you know,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: it's easy for personalities to clash a little bit.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Oh m hmm, I think so, yeah, m hm. So,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: you know, before Slytherin laughed though, you know, he left
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: a parting gift to the school and to you know,
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: his fellow founders. He built the Chamber of Secrets and
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: you know, it seems like the exact petty thing a
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Slytherin would do, like, Okay, well you know what you
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: all want me to leave? Sure, but I'm gonna build
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: this big hidden chamber with a giant snake, and like
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: this has been finding it.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: He had to have been working on this for a while, right,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Like this isn't just a oh yeah, I'm gonna go
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: see y'all, let me make this chamber real quick, like
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: this was like a slow burn, like I'm taking my
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: time building my revenge and then I'm out of here.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Like he like set the stage.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Oh I'm sure because right obviously he's got magic to
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: help him, right, so that probably sped the process along
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: a little bit. But also like I like also read
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: out how true this is, but I read that he
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: also like was the one that like bred the basilisk
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: that was there, And I'm like, okay, but like, is
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: a basilisk like other animals that like needs its mother
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: or like somebody to nurture it for a certain amount
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: of time before it can be on its own right,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: And then also I think that you know, before this
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: ultimately like was this big duel you know between them.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: I'm sure that it was, like you said, like this
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: long build up of arguing, going back and forth, all
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: this kind of stuff before it eventually got to a
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: point where they snapped. So I could see him doing
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: that like at night, secretly going down to the chamber
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: and putting it together the ground. Yeah yeah, breeding the
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: basilist the force and yeah, so you know, of course
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: we know the story of the Chamber of Secrets, and
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: it was a hidden chamber that was kept secret from
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: the other founders, and the whole plan was for it
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: to be sealed until Slytherin's true air arrived at the
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: school to fulfill his wish of having no muggle born
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: students at Hogwarts. So yeah, talk about the ultimate grudge.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Uh So you're going to disagree with me and I'm
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: going to leave, but I am going to, yeah, build
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: this monster chamber, so eventually it will do my will
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: for me anyways, even though I'm long gone Sentry. Yeah yeah, So,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: needless to say, Slytherin did not take the disagreement with
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: the others very well.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: It was not a graceful exit.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Not agree. I mean, it seemed like it was.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: A couple of gudges.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, like you're going to force
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: me out, so deal with my monster snake.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: But but the best part about it is and you
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: don't know where it is. You can't get to it,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: and you don't know when it's gonna come out.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: And you don't even know if it's real or not.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Could be a legend, what could be a monster?
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: You won't know until my true Slytherin coomes centuries later.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Like talk about a dramatic flair. So, yeah, Tom, is your.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Ceiling caving in? What's happening?
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to rob The ver is kind of
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: like trying to make its way down, and I'm terrified
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: of them, and I don't want to pause the recording
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: or anything. But I'm just keeping an eye out on
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: it because it goes back and forth, like up and down,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: and I'm so terrified because I hate Tom. Tom.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: It could either be the Spider or it could be
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: the basilisk.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, I I don't know right now, your spider
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: is hearing us talk about the bass gonna Yeah, when
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: you talked about the basilis it actually started like you know,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: going back up and now it's kind of like you know,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: it's uh yeah, it's kind of like dangling.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: But yeah, let's keep grolling.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: I'll just okay, okay, I'll let you know, keep us updated.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Just just keep checking. I'll keep oh no, for sure.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: If you see me looking up, you know what it
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: is already.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, yes, So, as we know, all of our founders
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: kind of had a role in Baltimore's story. And for
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: salas Our, I mean, obviously, you know, he had a
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: really big role because you know, the whole heir of
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Slytherin was Baltimore, so he arguably had the biggest role there.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: But we know that Slytherin's locket ends up becoming a
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: very important piece of the puzzle here, right, So salas
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: Our own this locket with unsurprisingly a green, glittering ass
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: on the front, and this would become like a family heirloom,
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: and eventually it would get passed on to his last
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: known descendants were which were the Gaunts. So we know
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: that Morelee Gaunt would eventually sell the lockett. It would
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: eventually be bought by Hapsaba Smith as this nice and
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: teeky artifact, you know, and then eventually it would be
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: stolen from her by Tom Riddle. So then Tom Riddle
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: you know, then becomes Lord Baltimore, who would later turn
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: the locket into one of his horror cruxes. And we
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: know the story there, you know, the whole story of
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: what happens with Regulus Black and Hafwood friends and all
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: of that fun stuff. So and we do know as
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: well that the lockett was known to put dark thoughts
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: into the wearer's mind, which is pretty on brand for Slutherin.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: I always said about that was from the horror Crocks.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: But do we think that that predated it becoming a
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: horror Crocks?
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: I think because I mean, I you know, and I'm
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: not sure. And I could see that being either way,
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Like I could see Sally Are or someone in his
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: family potentially like bewitching it in a way to dissuade
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: others from like wanting it or stealing it or whatever.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: But I could also see that becoming a thing that
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: happened once it possessed Baltimore, a piece of Baltimore's soul,
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: and that really where those dark thoughts were coming from
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: is from that piece of Baltimore's soul. But again in
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: a similar way, right, because why would you want to
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: keep that locket if when you wear it you know,
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: it really discourages other people from having it and possessing it.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: It's interesting because like the only other horror crucks for
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: we really see behaving in that way is the Diary,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: and that the Diary makes sense because it's literally Tom
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Riddle's memory telling Ginny to do whatever, So that makes sense.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, but it's like it's interesting because they don't
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: possess the other hor crouxes for long enough for us
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: to see if it has that same effect of the
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: dark thoughts and the moodiness and all that.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I guess, like the I could see that if
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: the if if that is the result of the horn Crocks,
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: which I do think that's probably more likely it because
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, obviously there was a lot of
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: owners of the locket after like Salazar, and so I
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: think it probably wouldn't make sense for like all these
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: other people to like wear it and for that to happen,
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: especially if it's like this family heirlom and it's getting
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: passed along to his family. And but I guess, like
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: with the other horcruxes, the only other one that I
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: could see maybe kind of taking on that is like
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: the Diadem, because if you were to like wear the diadem, right,
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: then you can be affected in that way. I guess
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: like with Hufflepuff Cup, would you need to like drink
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: out of it to like feel it or would it
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: be if you're just holding it? But it seems to
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: be very like you can hold this locket, but if
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: you're wearing it, and the longer you wear and we
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: see that right with Ron, like the longer that he's
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: wearing the locket, the more the worse it gets.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Also the raven Claw ghost, the daughter oh Helena, Helena,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: she actually hid it in the Room Requirement, if I'm
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: not mistaken, because it was you know, she said it
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: was possessed with dark magic and it was very you know,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: like she it kind of like really affected her to
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: the point where she had to get rid of it
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: and put it as far away as possible. But yeah,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna actually talk about that a little bit
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: later when we talk about Ravenclaw. And unless my sources
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: are wrong, it was like Valdemore who hit it there
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: like after he possessed it. But Helena had a role
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: in that whole process as well. But I think too
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: that it really is like I don't think like the
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: Diadem had any like negative qualities about it until, like
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: she says, like Baltimore tainted it with dark magic.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: So I could see that completely being the case with
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: the locket as well. And you'd want to do that,
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: right because you don't want people to find your hair crups,
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: as you don't want people to want to possess these
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: items that look seemingly normal, and so yeah, it makes
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: sense that that's a way to deter people from possessing
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: those items if they happen upon them, or that that's.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Just the natural result of something so evil being you know,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: im beauty and wear items. Yeah, all right, So now
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: on to Helga Hufflepuff. So a little etymology from Helga's name.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Helga is from Old Norse origin and derived from the
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: word heligar, meaning holy or blessed, and hufflepuff. There's some
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: speculation out there that maybe huff and puff refers to
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: the huffing and puffing of hard work. I thought that
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: was kind of cute, that could maybe be it. But yeah,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: just like the other founders, Helga is considered one of
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: the greatest witches of the time. But yeah, weirdly though,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of info about Helga, so
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: I tried to dig what I could up. According to
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: the sorting Hat, Helga came from Valley Broad, which could
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: mean whales, and she advocated for taking all students who
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: wanted to learn how Hogwarts, not based on traits or
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: blood status or anything of the sort. So she was
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: really kind of all for just whoever wants to learn.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: The doors are open. Helga was responsible for hiring house
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: elves at Hogwarts, and according to JK. Rowling, the reason
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: was to give them a safe place to work and
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: you know, working for a master who wasn't, you know,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: like the malpoys of the world. I don't know why
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: she didn't just like set them free, but I guess
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: maybe she.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say it a little controversial when
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: you think about it. I mean, this may be very
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: hermione at this moment, but like, you know, it's yeah,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: it's I think, but I think they take pleasure in serving. Yeah,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: you know, I think that's something they are very proud of,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: and it's something that they feel like, you know, they're
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: putting their their life too, you know, they're putting themselves
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: to use. And some you know, like they're being I
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: think they're happy as long as you know they they
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: are doing something that they feel fulfill of purpose for
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: someone else, and they're treated well because they were at
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Hogwarts at least. But yeah, it's uh, yeah, you know
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: it's And also it's funny what you said about her
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: saying that she took all students who wanted to learn,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: So it kind of like goes a little bit without
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: you know that, like kind of like run a joke
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: about you know how everyone who goes to huff Above
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: is you know, the ones that don't have any of
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: the other traits, so everyone just goes like it's brooched
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: in to huff Above. But you know, of course like it.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: It has like important traits, like you know, you can
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: see it from from the description about you know, working
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: hard and being loyal, and I think those are the
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: things that you know, she valued probably more than you know,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: you had a certain ability or you know, a certain
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: like it's not just about that. I think what makes
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: a good wizard And we discussed this in previous episodes
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: as well, but yeah, interesting interesting points.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's probably why she had a
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: soft spot for the house elves too, you know, with
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: how they value loyalty. Yeah, so maybe you know, she
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: felt kind of a kinship with them.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Mhm. Yeah.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: So Helga also had a special talent for food related charms,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: and many of her recipes are still used for Hogwarts feasts,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: which is kind of been.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: I didn't know there was something that you could have
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: a special talent for. Yeah, Like maybe it's like being
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: like like a good chef. Like you're like, if you're
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: a really good chef, she's really good at you know,
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: anybody can whip up a strudle, but like Helga's was
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: so good, right, I mean, Queenie might ever be, but
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: you know, that was the first thing that came to
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: my mind.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I Queenie too.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Queenie or like Missus Weasley, you know, or.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you think of people that are better bakers, right, well,
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: like witches and wizards, right, they're not in there like
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: actually baking, they're like using magic, and so it makes
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: sense that you would be a better baker if you
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: were better at the charms to bake the things.
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: So there's actually like a lot of food and crops
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: and culture associations with Hufflepuff two. So obviously, you know,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: we have that connection to Wales if this is her homeland.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: Wales was pretty rural with small settlements of tenant farmers,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: and the economy would have been centered on farming, livestock
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: and woodland products. We have her food spells, like we
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: just talked about, You've got the badger, which obviously has
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: really strong ties to the land and earth as a
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: burrowing animal. The greenhouses, so in the nineties we see
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Professor Sprout, head of Hufflepuff House as head of the
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: greenhouses as well, which kind of follows suit in Helga's
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: kind of agriculture trend there. So what does all this mean?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: You know, obviously like abundance, productivity, hard working, working with
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: what you're given, maybe living simply like living from the land.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: All of those things kind of work with Hufflepuff I
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: feel like mm hmm. And then we have the badger,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: which obviously we talked about a little bit earlier. But
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: just some interesting things about the badger when it comes
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: to what they typically symbolize in different cultures. So badgers
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: are often used to symbolize determination and seeing things through
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: to completion. They have a duality of nature, so they're
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: gentle in their familial relationships, but really fierce when threatened,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: which you know, plays into the loyalty bit with Hufflepuff
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: as well, so defending what's important to you. European folklore
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: ties badgers to witchcraft, which is obviously fitting in Celtic mythology,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: they represent wisdom, protection, and tenacity, and some Native American
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: cultures view badgers as associated with warriors and medicine and
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: healing as well. So obviously we also have Hufflepuff's cup,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: which we know a little bit about. So her cup was,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: you know, that gold with all the designs on it.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: It's interesting to me that it's like a practical item,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: but make it fancy. So she was like, yes, this
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: is a very fancy cup, but it has a use.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: So the cup was said to possess magical properties, though
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: it was never really specified what those might be. But
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: perhaps Aba Smith says that that is rumored and she
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: just hasn't had a chance to, you know, fully invest
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: get what that is. The cup was passed down through generations,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: eventually getting to Hepsibas Smith and then Tom Riddle. Just
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: like the locket is just given.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: All the things here we're getting taken away from her
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: it's she it's what she got for like getting involved
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: in antique dealing.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the moral of the story. Don't fall for
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: the younger man who is the salesman who looks so suave. Yeah,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: and then obviously the cup was turned into her hore
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: crux and you know we know the deal from there.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: I actually have the prop there, like the replica collection. Yes,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: it's so good. It's really heavy too. It's kind of
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: like you know, uh so yeah, it's it's fancy for sure, fancy. Yeah,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: I mean I wouldn't sit on it.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: But but yeah, I mean do we think that Helga
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: drink or was it like you know how sometimes you
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: just have like a fancy bowl or like a fancy something,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: but you never plan to actually use said thing.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: It's just you know, like cups. You buy cups and
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: collective you know, collectors cups, and we have like fifteen here.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: We don't use half of those one.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Sometimes they turn into bookmark holders or holders or the
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: face you.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Know, pencil cases. Of course.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see her putting some practical use or
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: just maybe not. Maybe it just sat on the shelf
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: and looked pretty. Yeah.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's interesting how he managed to well, we're
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: going to tap into this, uh with raven Claw. But
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: how he managed to create hard croxes from Hufflepuff from
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: raven Claw obviously you know, his own house, but he
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: didn't manage to you know, or he never looked for it,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: but Drick Gryffindor.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But I think the the interesting thing though, is like,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: you know, clearly Tom Riddle was like a Hogwarts fan boy,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: you know, like he's like, Okay, I'm going to make
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: these horcruxes. What am I going to do? Oh, let
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: me get a nice relic from each of the founders
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: of my school. Like, I just think he's such a
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: Hogwarts fan boy. But like it's interesting that, you know,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: Gryffindor obviously still played a role, right that It's like,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: ultimately he had the thing that could destroy them. Yeah,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: and again I think that ties back. It all stems
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: back to this like disagreement between Gryffindor and Slytherin, right,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, yes, it only made sense that Gryffindor
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: would have the item that could ultimately take down the
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: Air of Slytherin.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: And it's so interesting that like the item that probably
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: would have become a hor crux. If Tom Riddle could
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: have gotten his hands on it would have been the sword. Like,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he knew the sword existed, like it probably
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: was in the Headmaster's office back then too, Like I'm
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: sure he knew about it, probably tried to get it.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: It's just so interesting that then that sword becomes the thing,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: and it's of his own doing too, because he's the
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: one who gets Harry to go to the Chamber of
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Secrets since the bastle has gone him. Harry calls for
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: the sword, and the sword comes out of the hat
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: and then you know the best like and it's all
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: because of Tom Riddle. It's his own fault. He created
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: the thing that can then go destroy all his horn axes.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: Because without that, the sword is just a sword. Yep,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: it's just a yeah, cruel stroke of irony. And like
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: you said, Tom, it's almost like poetic in the end.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have never thought of that, by the way.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: That's what I love when we have these discussions because
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: it kind of opens the door to all of these
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: different like you know, interpretations and things that you never
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: thought of and being like, oh, this makes complete sense
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: mm hmm.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's like the Yeah, I mean,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: I think this feud between Gryffindor and Slytherin just like
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: had such a ripple effect throughout history. And yeah, it's
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: very poetic how it all kind of played out in
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: the end between those two houses or descendants, you know,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: of those two houses.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: Well, so if you've not noticed so far, we've all
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: covered the founders of our houses. We thought that would
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: be cool. But of course there's three of us and
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: there's four founders, And so I volunteered to take on
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: Ravenclaw because you know, as I've talked about before, I
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: lived most of my life as a raven Claw before
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: I switched to I Guess the dark Side, and so
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: I thought it was only fitting that I talk about
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: Rowen a raven Claw. So again, starting with the etymology,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: so on, the first name Rowena is a name of
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: uncertain origin. It could possibly be Anglo Saxon, could be
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: derived from the Old English words frad meaning fame and
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: when meaning joy, or possibly the Old Welsh words ron
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: meaning spear and gwen meaning white. So lots of different
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: options here for the last name raven Claw. As we've
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: kind of already touched on, right, Raven was probably chosen
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: because ravens are known to be incredibly smart birds, thus
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: evoking the house and Founder's value for intellect. Claw brings
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: to mind a bird of prey birds in general, right,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: which is obviously the house mascot. So we've kind of
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: touched on that a little bit. So again, like everybody else,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: Rowena was considered one of the greatest witches of her time,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: but something that she was, you know, known for, was
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: really her intelligence, her wit, and her level of skill
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: and proficiency when it came to charms. So Rowena was
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: born sometime in the tenth century and was from the
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: Glens of Scotland, which I think is really fitting. I
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: just feel like I see her being like a megonagal
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: type person and just being a Scottish woman, and I
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: just think that really fits, just like I think it
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: fits for Hellgund to be from Wales, like it just
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: it just kind of works. And so don't know, you know,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: this is a theory, but I saw in an article
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: on the Founders on Harry Potter dot Com that a
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: popular theory is that it was Rowena who came up
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: with the name Hogwarts after she dreamed of a wardy
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: hog that led her to a cliff by a lake
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: where they would ultimately build Hogwarts so came to her
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: in a dream. And then right, if it wasn't for
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: that wardy hog, what would it have been called? You
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: know what do we call it?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: So words perfect?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: Because wardy hog doesn't sound and she and remember she's
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: the most intelligent of them, and so I could see
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: her being like Hogwarts sounds a lot betterts oh, but yeah,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: but anyways, it was definitely if it's again, it's just
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: a theory. We don't know if it's actually true, but
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: it seems like it could be right, and she paid
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: homage to this wordy hog that came to her in
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: a dream. And so when I was doing some research
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: into Arena raw Weena, Oh, sorry, y'all, this is an episode.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: And again, we don't know how true this is. I
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: think there's a lot of speculation out there about you know,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: the founders, but it's believed that while you know, Gryffindor
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: supplied the hat, it was Rowena who really bewitched it,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: which I think like makes a lot of sense, right
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: because we just talked about how she was really proficient
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: in charms, and it does seem like it would take
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: a very you know, in depth charm to bewitch the
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: hat in that way to can you know literally it's
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: essentially a mind reader, right, And there's also theories that
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: she is the one that came up with the floor
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: plan of the castle and of course the changing floor
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: plan because our staircases move, which again I could also
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: see that being a Raven Claude type thing to come
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: up with. So, like, you know, we had our besties
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: in Goderich and Salazar, Rowena and Helga were very close friends,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: which I think makes sense. And again I think we
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: see that with the houses as well. Right, we don't
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: really see raven Claw and Hufflepuff really having any issues
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: with each other that we know of. And then of course,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: you know, we have raven Claus Diadem, which we've talked
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: a little bit about here, and the diadem was said
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: to enhance the wisdom of the wearer, which I think
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: kind of similar to Similarly, oh my goodness, we cannot
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: talk tonight to what we were talking about with the locket.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: I could see this being something that Rowena like did
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: right and enchanted the diadem in this way. So we
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: have Helena, who is obviously you know, as we've talked
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: about as the daughter of Rowena, and she really came
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: to envy her mother's status and power and ultimately ended
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: up betraying her by stealing the diadem in the belief
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: that it would make her more powerful, right, which I
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: guess makes sense because if Rowena was talking about, hey,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: if you wear this, it'll make you more wise, like,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: it makes sense that it would be, you know, a
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: coveted item. But I'm sure Rowena never thought it would
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: be stolen by her daughter, you know, of all people.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: So Helena runs away from Hogwarts with a diadem, and
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: we don't really know what happens fully there, you know,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: when she runs away with it, what she does with it,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: what you know, there's a lot of missing pieces of
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: history there. Rowena was so embarrassed by the betrayal of
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: her daughter that she told no one that that's what
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: happened to the diadem, that it was like Helena who
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: took it. She didn't even tell her, you know, fellow founders,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: that the diadem was missing and what happened to it.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: So eventually Rowena would become deathly ill, and essentially on
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: her deathbed, she tasked a young man to find Helena
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: so that he would bring her back and so she
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: could see her one last time before she you know,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: passes away. So the young man was one that had
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: been infatuated by Helena for quite a long time, so
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: was probably very keen on the task and tracked her
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: down and found her in a forest in Albania. So unfortunately,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: and Amy and I talked about this a little bit
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: on our Ghost episode. But unfortunately things didn't fully go
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: well because instead of this young man just finding Helena
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: and bringing her back, he apparently chose to also shoot
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: a shot when he found her, and you know, she
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: turned him down and he killed her for rejecting his advances.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: And as Amy and I talked about in the Ghost episode,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: it's a pretty tragic, disturbing story. So we don't know
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: this young man's actual name, but of course we would
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: know it is the man who would become the Bloody
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: baron the Ghost of Slytherin House. And you know, Helena
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: would then become the Gray Lady and the ghost of
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: Ravenclaw House, and as Amy and I talked about in
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: our Ghost episode, yeah, they she never got to escape him.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they would constantly bump into each other.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: Yep. So yeah. So then Rowena died soon after this,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: and obviously she was already fatally ill, right, but it's
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: been suggested that what really pushed her over and causing
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: her death was this broken heart over the murder of
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: her daughter, which, as you can imagine, right, like, she
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: is the one who tasks this man with finding her daughter,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: so I could completely imagined that there could be some
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: guilt there too, you know, so kind of going back
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: to the diadem, so we know that it was never
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: really lost forever. As we mentioned, it ends up being
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: found by Lord Valdemore with the help of Helena's ghost,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: and he would then turn it into one of his
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: hor crosses. He hit it once more, this time within
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: Hogwarts in the Room ofte Requirement, and this is where
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: it would remain hidden for at least fifty years, where
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: you know, we know the story of you know, what
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: happens there. So that's a little bit about Rowena's story.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: It's great, Like there's so much to talk about when
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: it comes to the Founders, Like it's not just a
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: group of friends who reunited and we're like, okay, we're
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: gonna you know, we're going to just build a school
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: and call it a day. You know, there's this whole
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: like you know, each of these characters had their background,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: have their upbringing, you know, they they really are very
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: rich characters, and it just you know, it's got like
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: going all the way by. It just hearkens back to
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: the very beginning of you know, this world that you
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: know we love so much, and there's I feel like
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: there's so much potential to just you know, either doing
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: a TV show or a film, you know, trilogy or
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: something on The Founders. I think it would be so strong,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: especially after discussing this and just you know kind of
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: like seeing all of these things and and you know
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: there's so many from the from the items that would
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: become the horror cruxes, from the you know them founding,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: you know, the school from you know, their their friendship
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: later on kind of like rivalry and between them and family, yes, yes,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: And and you know Raven Claus, you know Rowena's you know,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: very tragic story with her daughter. There's so much potential
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: to like you know keep kind of like dissecting this story.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: And yeah, it just you know really kind of like
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: made me have like you know, these like branduized for
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: the story for just this piece, and kind of curious
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: to see how, you know, could potentially lead into something
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: in the future, probably because yeah, this is a very
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: very interesting story and I'd love to know a lot
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: more about it, for sure.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think even just them as because you know, obviously,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: and I think, you know, with some of the stuff
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: we talked about today, I think it's a lot of
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: it is pieces that are pulled from a lot of
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: different sources, and so you know, I think some of
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: it is potentially speculation and potentially just kind of theory
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: or fan theory, but I think that it'd be really
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: interesting to learn more about how the four of them
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: really came together to build the school, because it's like,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: you know, obviously we talked about there's potentially this this
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: already established history with Godrick and sales Are, and this
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: potentially already established history with Halga and Rowena. But then like,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: how did the four of them then come to be,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: you know, or is it like we're all the greatest
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: witches and wizards of our time, so we should all
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: get together and make this school? Like how did that happen?
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: And what did they do to become the greatest witches
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: and wizards of their time, Like there's a story there
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: too of like you know, so it's something that people
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: have wanted for ages and ages.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: All the time. Yeah, but I guess I never saw
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: the magnitude. Like sorry, I just want to say, like
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: I never really kind of like you know, when you
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: go and you you go into these deep discussions and
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: you know, you start going into this like little details
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: and tidpits, and you just see how rich the story
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: is and it you know, really opens up this door
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: to you know, more questions and more things that people
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: want to know and that they're curious about. And yeah,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: it's uh, it's I'm just super curious to see how
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: this could be potentially unfold in the future.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna say because I think, like
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: obviously their importance they have a strong importance because they're
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: the founders of the school and like, and but I
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: think that their role is even more important than that,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: because it's like at the end, like like we just
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: talked about, like they play such a crucial role without
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: even knowing it in like Tom Riddle and like Voldemort's story,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: and it's like it's just I think it's so interesting
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: how they creep up throughout the story, right, we're not
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: necessarily them but pieces of them or echoes to them,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: or obviously really through objects that belong to them. But
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of story there too. Yeah,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: it's like how did they acquire these objects? Like where
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: did these objects go in different points in history to
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: end up where they were, And it's like they all
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: had to be in the right place at the right
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: time for them to be such a you know, crucial
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: part of the story. And then I think, like we
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: talked about too, like coming up with like the animals
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: and the emblems, and I think even just why are
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: the certain traits so important to them? Like I think
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: we touched on that a little bit, right, Like obviously
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: you know, but like was Rowina just super into intelligence
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: because she was so intelligent? She's like, so I want
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: to make other people that are intelligent, you know. I'm
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: sure there's more to it than that. And I would
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: love to see that scene of them like sitting at
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: a table like talking through how they and you know
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: what ultimately would become the houses. I think that'd be
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: so cool and like kind of like a almost like
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: a historical I see it in like the like you know,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: like historical kind of show, yea like a documentary like
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: kind of yeah, Like I don't know, I think like yeah,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: like all these like historical shows that we have, Like
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: you know, I think it could just I could see
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: how it but then you yeah, yeah, but it's like
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: you also have this like epic noss because you know
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: that eventually you could show this like massive falling out
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: of Salazar and Goderich and how that would be and
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: then you know, and then obviously we've got Salazar then
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: you know, going to build the chamber. Like there's so
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: much potential there that could happen. So yeah, I know, yeah,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: people have been asking it for a while. I think
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: it's the prequel that I always was most interested in,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: even over the Marauders, because I think there's so much
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: unknown there and so much that you could explore.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean I'm a fan of having orders prequel,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: but I will say that, yeah, but you're right, like
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: we know everything that needed to be said about that
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: time period, Like there's nothing that we could learn that
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: would potentially, you know, allow us to I don't know, uh,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: go deeper into the story or know more about these
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: characters because we know them so well already, like we
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: know Snape inside out. Of course it would be great
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: to see these, you know, just for fan service purposes,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: But I think that the Founders would add this extra
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: layer of depth now to to the story and to
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: this world and to the school and how their relationship
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: you know, they're falling out and how they get you know,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: how they came to become friends. And there's just so
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: much their childhood, their upbringing, you know, how they came
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: to be with each of these objects that would become
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: so pivotal to the story that would come later. Yeah,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: I think there's.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: Like what happened to them and what?
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like we obviously know like Rowena and it's like,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: you know, unfortunately she kind of had this tragic passing,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: but like what happened to everybody else? Like what happened
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: after Slytherin left the school? Did he just like go
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: into hide? Like you know, like what happened to all
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: of them? Yeah, Like there's just so much too, because yeah,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: kind of like to your point too about the Marauders,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: like we kind of have the beginning, the middle, and
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: the end of that story in a way, like from
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: flashbacks and stories and stuff, and I think a lot
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: of it could just be fan service to fill in
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: the gaps, but I think would like the founders, a
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: lot of it would be like brand new information, Yeah,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: which is always fun. M yeah, Well, HBO and or Netflix,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: you're listening and need another project. I think you know.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: I will say that one of the potential good things
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: about HBO and or Netflix getting into to the Harry
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: Potter TV show space is like, we have the potential
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: of these things happening, like because HBO is really big
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: on doing those kind of things, right, like we see
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: it right with Game of Thrones, they were very quick
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: to be like, we want to pick up House of
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: the Dragon, which is literally a history. It's not even
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: a it's not even fully a store, like the the
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: book it's based on is literally a historical text in
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: the universe of Westeros, and they turned it into the show.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: And then Night of the Seven Kingdoms, which is even
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: more of a prequel, is coming out literally in a
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: couple days. Like HBO just likes to grab onto these
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: kind of things, and so I am hoping that maybe
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: Harry Potter being in that home and in that TV
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: space will maybe open the door for things like this.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: So you're saying, because we know the deal for Quidditch
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: through the Ages exists out there, we could get a
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: quidditch sports romance TV show.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: Bring all the tropes, you know. I think, you know,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: I think of all the romance books, right, like the
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: Hockey Romance.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: Which I've been like like a kick on lately, So
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: like that would be really funny. I would watch that.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: I yes, I don't know.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: If Makan I don't know.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: And HBO. I could see HBO also doing like a
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: rom comedy kind of thing.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, Netflix absolutely would.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: So maybe the two of them together is exactly what
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: we need. But I think, you know.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: I think Tom's gonna come in with the you guys
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: are off your rock or with this one.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: No, but I know I was just gonna say, like,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: it's not it's not it's not you no, no, no,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: it's it's actually you know, it makes sense. You know,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: it could go on, It could go many ways. But
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: the thing is that about Harry Potter that's so particular
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: is that it's so narrow in terms of what you
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: can produce in the audio visual context. I think that's
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: the only reason this TV show is happening, it's because
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: you know, JK. Rowling either didn't want to write or
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: didn't want to grant rights to other creatives to expand
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: her world. So I think if they had that chance,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: they would have already really kind of like taken it
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: and just you know, either do the Marauders or do
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: the Founders and do other things just before they So
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: you know, this makes me think, like, Okay, they went
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: through Harry Potters. It's not just because of the safest thing,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: but it's because it's the only new content they can
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: provide in this kind of like you know, TV slash
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: movie environment medium.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, deals would have to be put
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: in place because if as an author, if you're going
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: to really maintain full control over your work or like,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: then that is going to limit things, right, And I
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: think unfortunately what we're seeing too with Game of Thrones
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: right is like and I was actually just reading an
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: article about this earlier, is that now like George R.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: Martin is basically not He was very heavily involved in
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: the shows that were being put out, and it was
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: important to him to be involved, right, especially with Game
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: of Thrones, because you have the show ending before his
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: books are even done, right, But you can tell when
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: he stopped having as much control, and unfortunately it became
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: a situation of I think the studios were kind of
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: like pushing him away more. And then he became very
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: verbally open about how he was not consulted as much
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: with House of the Dragon season two and was not
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: a fan of it. And now I just read an
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: article today that he is really going to have no
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: involvement with that show going forward because of obviously him
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: coming up about his displeasure. But at the same time,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: I wish these studios would realize your seasons were better
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: when you had the author involved and you listened to them.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: And so I think that you're right. I think that
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: I can see it's more about, you know, how much
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: can HBO and Netflix potentially get JK Rolling to fold?
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: What can they possibly do? I think especially, I think
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: it's safe to start with the show because the material
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: is already there, right, you don't need your author to
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: provide anything new. But if it's really successful, or if
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: they're able to get her to fold, we could then
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: maybe see, Okay, I'll write new content for this in
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: the way that Fantastic Bees happen, right, because there was
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: new content that was written for Fantastic Beasts to flesh
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: out that story by her. So I think stipulation.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: Of like, yeah, sure you can make a movie, but
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: I'm writing it, right, you.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: Know, I always saw it good and bad, right, right,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: but then eventually gave in and said, Okay, maybe I
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: can't write this, but I still need to be this
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: main consultant. And so I don't think it's completely outside
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: of the rama possibility because we've seen her do it
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: before and obviously she's approved them to do the show now,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: which is going to have potentially some extra stuff in
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: it like we've talked about. So you know, I don't
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: want to say never say never. I think maybe right
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: now we're in a better place than we've ever been
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: before with having a TV studio taking over original content
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: than just having the movie studio having original content. But
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: I agree, I think that it's going to be Unfortunately,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: with Wizarding World, there has to be approval there from her,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: so that is potentially a stipulation, but I'm going to
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: keep my fingers crossed. It seems, you know. I think
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: it's hard though, because I wonder if some authors will
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: see what HBO did to Game of Thrones or these
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: other book series turn you know, and maybe be like, oh,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: maybe I don't want to get involved with them in
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: that way because look at what they did to Georgia
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: Ror Martin after a few seasons, you know. But but
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: either way, we'll see I again. I could totally see
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: HBO clamoring at the bit to do something about Hogwarts founders.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: It's just it just fits their.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: Aesthetic definitely.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: So well, if they do it, they can reference our
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: episode or guidance.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 5: We've compiled a lot of information here and what we'd
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: like to see, yeah, what we'd like to see out
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: of that season, and so yeah, I expect to see.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: All of our names in the credits to the end
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: of the episodes. It's about to leave grab on to
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: the porn key.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, So for our rotating segment this episode, we have
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: chosen to do the port key good old Porky that
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: we love. And so I was in London for the
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: Christmas period and I wanted to talk about my experience
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: visiting the Harry Potter Christmas Tree over at King's Cross
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: Station during the holiday season. So basically this was a
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: giant nearly thirty foot tall Harry Potter Christmas tree that
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: was installed from late November to the fifth of January,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: so whoever was passing through King's Cross were treated to
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: something very special and it's basically, you know, a big
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: tree with different stands with different like displays. It's packed
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: with nods and details directs from the films and I
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: was lucky enough to visit it and it did not disappoint.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: So at the base of the tree, you're surrounded by
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: this as it's very on brand with you know, the
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: Wizarding World, a very fully immersive three hundred and sixty
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: degree display of different Wizarding shop fronts. So you have
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: Olive Andanders, Gladyrax Wizardwearer, the owl post, tomes and scrolls,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: and each window is crammed with film inspired props, so
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: you got daily profits, Harry's Hogwarts acceptance, acceptance letter, different
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: props of books from the films like you know, Gilderer
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: Lockhart's books and also the controversial book about finding muggle
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: Borns from deathly Hollows. And then you know, you also
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: have edible packaging like birdie bots, every flavor, beans, pumpkin juice,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: and of course a very big you know, display of
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: uh stacked ones, so you could peek into those windows
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: and honestly, you can just stand there for a lot
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: of minutes, like fifty minutes in each window because the
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: the amount of detail that is put into it is
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: outstanding and there are like little tidbits everywhere. And other
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: than that, when you go the other way around, there
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: is like this the only actual actually kind of like
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: fully operational store. Like it's kind of like stand slash shop.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: So they sell bottled butter beer, chocolate, frogs, birdy bought beans,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: and a few more enjoyable treats. So yeah, so again,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: like this is a pretty simple one there. You know,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: it's a it's just a tree, but it's more than
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: a tree. It's something that's kind of like you know,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: these this attention to detail, I feel like it's completely
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: on brand. You know, you got from the you know,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: the icicles that are forming along this ceilings of the
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: shop displays to windows plaster with flying letters, and to
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: a tree that the tree itself, which I already mentioned
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: was pretty pretty big. It stacked from the base to
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: the tip with ornaments, wrapped rooms, envelopes, all climbing all
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: the way to the top and yeah, and as I said,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: while it's kind of like a smaller scale attraction compared
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: to what we're used to, like the studio tour and
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: the exhibitions and the theme parks, it felt like a
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: viewable like kind of like intimate and fully immersive homage
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: to the films and the franchise that we are celebrating
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: all these years later. So yeah, it was nice because
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: it's one of those things that don't come back every
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: you know, it's not something that you know for sure
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: is going to be next year. So if you know
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: you were there at that time, then it was worth
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: paying a visit. And just you know, you also got
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: the King's Cross Platform nine to three quarters shop, you know,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: a few steps away. So yeah, it was pretty pretty nice.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: I kind of like took a lot of pictures and
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: videos and yeah, it's really good.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: I saw a lot of pictures of this. This looked
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: so cool.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because you know, they just nail it every
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: time with these things, like it's so you know again
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: the detail and how everything is so perfectly it's just
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: a tree. You know, you're like how much can a
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: tree have? Like you know, and there's like literal like shop.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: You know, display windows all over the tree and they
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: set a bar of you know, bottled butter beer and
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: people you know, serving it and stuff. So yeah, it's
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: it's pretty cool. And it was obviously cramped. There was
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of people. There were people queuing outside of
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: the store. You had to you know, you barely had
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: enough room to breathe. Honestly, I was lucky enough to
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: snag a thirty percent off hoodie, which coincidentally had the
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: Wizarding World logo at the back, so I'm kind of
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: guessing that's why it was on sale. Yeah, yeah, because
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: everything with that logo was kind of like, yeah, like
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: the fantastic Beast ones that are Yeah. Yeah, so but yeah,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: that was my little trip back to King's Cross Station.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: So noise.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: All right. So on our last episode, we asked what
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: is your favorite piece of Mena lima design work in
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: the Harry Potter films, and we got a few good
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: responses here. So Jerry sent us an email and said,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: it is very difficult for me to select a favorite
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: mean A Lima design from the Harry Potter films. I
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: love their work, the look and feel and the way
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: that they worked with the other departments to make the
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: films and later the theme parks seem like real, lived
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: in worlds. From the acceptance letter and on throughout the story,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: so many great things. I've purchased some of the postcard
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: packs and put together a composite poster own, and have
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: read a number of their books. For this question, I
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: will select the Marauders Map, a T shirt with a
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: map that develops footsteps when exposed to light, was one
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: of the first bits of merch I purchased on my
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: very first trip to the theme parks. I have sent cards
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: with representations of the map to friends and enjoy in
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: the movie the way it works. Jerry also mentions the
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: end credits for Prisoner of Azkaban, which feature the Marauders
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: map with the footprints and the names of each cast
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: and crew member shown on those little like nameplate scrolls.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: So yeah, hm, that's a favorite. Yeah, I love that
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: one too. I don't own many Harry Potter shirts, but
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: the Marats map one that you know with the content
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: with the sun you got those prints. That's one of
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: the few that I have, and I love it. And yeah,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: I mean it's pretty popular because it went on you know,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: on auction last year. I think it went for over
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars. So yeah, people are very fond
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: of that prop mm hmm. It's a good one, mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: And then we also got an email from Vicky G
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  Speaker 1: who says, Hi, Amy, Nicole, and Tom, I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: join in on the discussion this week since the graphic
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  Speaker 1: design in the Harry Potter movies is truly magical. My
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  Speaker 1: favorite piece is the Black Family Tapestry. It might not
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  Speaker 1: be the most unique answer, but whenever I think about
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  Speaker 1: the tapestry, I think back to the scene in Order
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  Speaker 1: of the Phoenix with Sirius and Harry at grimold quote
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  Speaker 1: we've all got both light and dark inside us. For me,
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  Speaker 1: the tapestry hearkens back to that moment, So I think
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  Speaker 1: my answer is based on feelings. I also love the
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  Speaker 1: ministry hand his perfection, which we talked a lot about
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  Speaker 1: that hand he did. You all had a lovely holiday
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  Speaker 1: and I'm so glad to have you back in my feed.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, loved the episode on Curse Child. I've
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  Speaker 1: been a big Curse Child hater, but you might be
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  Speaker 1: changing my perspective. Ah, look at.
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  Speaker 3: Us, Oh look at us. Go yeah, yeah, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: get I'm gonna get Vicky on board. I'm gonna get
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  Speaker 3: Carolyn on board if we heard it towards the end
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  Speaker 3: of the episode last time.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't think you're successful there, Nicole.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, no, no, no, I'm okay with it
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  Speaker 3: not being a full conversion. It doesn't need to be
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  Speaker 3: a full conversion. But if if anybody's perspective can be
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  Speaker 3: can start to shift, or a different perspective can be
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  Speaker 3: seen about it, then I consider that success.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we're you know, changing just one person at a time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, might be a small little curse child world. But
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  Speaker 3: whatever difference I can make, I will do. And while
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: you're at it, go vote for Tom in the iHeart
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  Speaker 3: it has probabay to be there's another plug for that. Gosh, well, Tom,
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  Speaker 3: what's your favorite because you weren't on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have so many. I love dumblers. Will is
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  Speaker 2: one of my favorites. Ah, And then I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I actually kind of am a sucker for the Daily Prophet.
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  Speaker 2: It's uh. I just love the the attention to detail
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  Speaker 2: that's put onto those articles. And it's not just gibberish,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like there's actually you know, very funny like
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: titles and headings and things that you see, especially you
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: see a lot in order of Phoenix with the transitions.
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  Speaker 2: When you see like it's all like actual like text
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  Speaker 2: and things that are like you know, broom broken, no
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  Speaker 2: worries call your you know, like it's like all of
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: these things. It's like, you know, memory loss, we have
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: the perfect potion for your needs and just the those
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  Speaker 2: minds and how creative like that is kind of like
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  Speaker 2: why this is you know, anyone thinks they can be
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  Speaker 2: graphic designers any you know, like but it just takes
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  Speaker 2: a lot, and it's it's proves how talented these people
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: are and how you have to you know, you it's
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  Speaker 2: such a craft that that is so peculiar, and when
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: you see them explaining everything, it's things that you would
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  Speaker 2: have never thought from you know, writing inside books that
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: are never going to be open, they're never going to
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  Speaker 2: be seen on screen, but they have every single page
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: that has text on it, Like who would have thought that?
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: Like who would have thought of that? Even inside a drawer.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: You would pull up a drawer and there'd be a
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: book with a cover, back cover with text on inside
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  Speaker 2: of it. I'm a huge, huge fan of Minia Lima
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  Speaker 2: and in yeah, like it's uh yeah, I'd say, actually, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the Daily Profit, I think it kind of encompasses a
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  Speaker 2: lot of you know, their artistry and their craftsmanship and yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you've had a chance to
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: listen to the episode yet, but Carolyn offered like a
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: really a lot of good insight and perspective, like from
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: a graphic design perspective on the Daily Profit and kind
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: of their style and the way they kind of crafted it.
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  Speaker 2: Cool. Yeah, my favorite.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: For this episode's discussion question, we want to know what
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  Speaker 3: would you be most interested in learning about the Hogwarts founders,
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and keep an eye on our socials because I
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: will be heading back down to Universal next week and myself, well, huh.
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  Speaker 3: You already be back right by the time this episode
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  Speaker 3: comes out, though, No.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be leaving or you'll be there it comes out.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, how fun.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Myself and social media manager Liz are planning to
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  Speaker 1: gather some content, so we want to sample some foods.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have some reviews, so definitely check that out. All right,
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  Speaker 1: until well next time, I'm Amy, I'm Nicole
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  Speaker 2: And I'm Tom May Smashed