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9-14-26 Hour 1 - NFL Week 1 Takeaways: what's a pass?/Broncos @ Chiefs FOR REAL/A WILD CFB weekend · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 3: Lewis loads up down the field. DeAndre Moore. It didn't
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  Speaker 3: take long. 66 yards.
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  Speaker 4: Buffs up 6-6. 19-yard pickup. Haney over the middle. Nothing
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  Speaker 4: but daylight ahead for Terrence Smith. Another one on the
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  Speaker 4: scoreboard from 33 yards away. Touchdown Colorado State.
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  Speaker 2: 44 first half points for the Rams.
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  Speaker 4: Smothers is the back.
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  Speaker 2: In the I formation.
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  Speaker 4: He's got it. Dives. Touchdown, Texas!
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  Speaker 3: Dead even with the PAT to come.
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  Speaker 4: And he knocks it through.
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  Speaker 5: And Texas somehow is on top with 25 seconds to go.
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  Speaker 4: Dart in the shotgun. Play clock down to three. Dart
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  Speaker 4: gets the snap. He's back to pass.
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  Speaker 2: Fires left side.
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  Speaker 4: Singletary's got it. Along the sideline of the five. Into
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  Speaker 4: the end zone. Touchdown, Giants. Devin Singletary with a catch
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  Speaker 4: and run of nine. And the Giant lead is 27-14. Tonight.
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  Speaker 6: Tonight.
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  Speaker 4: They're going after him. Going for the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: Over the shoulder. Oh, Mims.
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  Speaker 4: Hauls it in.
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  Speaker 6: 26 yards to Marvin Mims, who was injured as he
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  Speaker 6: was falling to the ground after making the over-the-shoulder catch.
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  Speaker 5: Lutz. Here it is.
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  Speaker 4: On the way. And the Denver Broncos have won it
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  Speaker 4: in overtime. Altitude Sports Radio loves football.
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  Speaker 6: It all gets going tonight. Monday night football, Broncos and Chiefs.
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  Speaker 6: And if you boys can indulge me for a moment,
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  Speaker 6: we will talk about this game tonight. We have done that,
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  Speaker 6: it feels like, for the last three months. So let's
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  Speaker 6: just put that on the back burner for a second
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  Speaker 6: because I had my, I'm re-watching Breaking Bad right now.
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  Speaker 6: Never done meth before, but that 11 a.m. red zone
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  Speaker 6: is what I assume would be my version of that.
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  Speaker 4: And what, Vic? What did we do before that? Before
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  Speaker 4: red zone? Yeah, as I was watching it, I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: how did we live?
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  Speaker 6: So here's what's hilarious is there's a couple things, well,
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  Speaker 6: more than a couple that I want to get to
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  Speaker 6: from the NFL and college football weekend, but I.
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  Speaker 4: Want to start here. The offseason comes.
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  Speaker 6: You have the draft. You have free agency. Everybody's moving
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  Speaker 6: and shaking. Coaching changes, all these different things. And then
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  Speaker 6: you get to training camp and preseason. And this becomes
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  Speaker 6: a time of predictions and proclamations.
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  Speaker 4: And every year, there's a darling.
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  Speaker 6: Every year, there's a team from each side of the ledger,
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  Speaker 6: the AFC and the NFC, that you point to and
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  Speaker 6: you say, that's the one that I think is going
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  Speaker 6: to explode, right? And after one week of the NFL season,
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  Speaker 6: with a game to play tonight, On the NFC side,
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  Speaker 6: that was the Rams. They trade for Miles Garrett. They
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  Speaker 6: trade for Trent McDuffie. Aaron Donald's back. They got the
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  Speaker 6: reigning MVP. They got all these different things. The Rams
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  Speaker 6: are the number one team in the league. They lose
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  Speaker 6: by 20. And on the AFC, you would think, is
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  Speaker 6: it either of the teams that were in the AFC
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  Speaker 6: championship game last year? No, nobody's really talking about the Patriots.
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  Speaker 6: Nobody's really talking about the Broncos.
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  Speaker 4: Tell you who it is.
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  Speaker 6: How many people did you hear say, look out for
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  Speaker 6: the Chargers this year? Mike McDaniel and that offense.
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  Speaker 4: Just wait for it. We know one guy on this
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  Speaker 4: show who can't get enough of the Chargers, who's never
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  Speaker 4: stopped talking about the Chargers.
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  Speaker 6: What the hell was that against the Arizona Cubs?
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  Speaker 4: They are absolute frauds. What was that? This should make
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  Speaker 4: you feel good if you're a Broncos fan.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about this. The Raiders are not a factor, okay?
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  Speaker 4: This should make us feel good because maybe you'll shut
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  Speaker 4: up about the Chargers. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, four minutes into the show and already I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting a good old-fashioned butt whooping.
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  Speaker 4: Vic watched one quarter of Cardinals Chargers and said, screw you, Moj. Today?
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  Speaker 2: Today.
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  Speaker 4: I do not apologize. Is there a team out there
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  Speaker 4: that elicits more emotion and more response from Mosher than
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  Speaker 4: the Chargers?
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  Speaker 6: No, you're right about that. Now, again, but Vic, Mosher
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  Speaker 6: wasn't alone. How many people said, I think the Chargers
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  Speaker 6: are the team to come out of the AFC this year?
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  Speaker 2: It's because I worry about them in the AFC West.
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  Speaker 4: Mosher, you spent more mileage talking about the Chargers this offseason.
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  Speaker 4: Than you've ever done. I mean, every time this subject
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  Speaker 4: came up. Let me tell you something, though.
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  Speaker 6: I can't count the amount of people that were talking about,
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  Speaker 6: this is Herbert's year with Mike McDaniel in charge. You
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  Speaker 6: want to look out for a running back who's going
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  Speaker 6: to burst on the scene. Omari and Hampton out of L.A.
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  Speaker 6: And both the running game was awful. Herbert looked terrible.
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  Speaker 4: He had no... Did you see how that game ended,
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  Speaker 4: the last throw?
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  Speaker 6: Three offensive linemen blocking one guy, two guys running right
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  Speaker 6: at him.
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  Speaker 4: Untouched.
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  Speaker 2: Total and complete disaster they are. Think about this, though.
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  Speaker 2: The Raiders are not a factor. I don't care what
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  Speaker 2: they did yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: They're not a factor. Well, they played Miami. Understood.
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  Speaker 2: But they're not a factor, for real. And now the Chargers,
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  Speaker 2: in my mind, are not a factor. So the two
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  Speaker 2: factors in this division are, A, the team that is
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  Speaker 2: defending champion of the division... and B, a team that
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  Speaker 2: used to reign supreme in this division, but we don't
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  Speaker 2: know what the heck they are now in Kansas City.
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  Speaker 2: So it only comes down to the Broncos and Kansas
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  Speaker 2: City at this point as far as I'm concerned.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the thing. I'm not writing off the Chargers after
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  Speaker 4: one week.
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  Speaker 2: No, they are written off, dude. They're the ones writing
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  Speaker 2: it off.
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  Speaker 4: It's one game. It's a write-off. It's one game. It's
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  Speaker 4: a write-off, Vic. Don't one game me. It's a write-off.
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  Speaker 4: They're junk. I'm just saying, let's calm down with one
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  Speaker 4: game into the season. I'm just saying, it's a surprise.
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  Speaker 6: The two teams that were like the darlings of their
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  Speaker 6: respective conferences in the offseason, both lost by double digits.
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  Speaker 2: Vic, I know what I saw, and I'll use this analogy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: One only needs one gulp of sea to know what
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  Speaker 2: the ocean tastes like. Okay, well, then here's what you
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  Speaker 2: saw last year. And I know what that ocean tastes like,
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  Speaker 2: and it tastes like crap.
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  Speaker 4: Let me tell you what it tasted like last year.
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  Speaker 4: You saw the Broncos struggle at home against a horrible
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  Speaker 4: Titans team. They were in the AFC Championship. You saw
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  Speaker 4: the New England Patriots lose big to the Raiders. They
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  Speaker 4: were in the Super Bowl. Calm down. One game. Opening game.
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  Speaker 6: Here's the other thing, and there's a lot that we
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  Speaker 6: need to discuss this morning. We'll get to the Broncos momentarily.
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  Speaker 6: I think there's something huge that happened in just the
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  Speaker 6: first week of the season. And every once in a while,
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  Speaker 6: this hits you, Moj. How many times have we asked
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  Speaker 6: Jared Bednar, who will join us here in a couple weeks,
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  Speaker 6: because don't look now, the Avs play in 16 days.
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  Speaker 6: But how many times have we had Bednar on this show,
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  Speaker 6: and we say, what'd you think of the goalie interference call?
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  Speaker 6: And he always goes, I don't know what it is.
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  Speaker 6: The NFL has a problem, because I watched it live.
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  Speaker 6: There is no world that exists in the Saints and
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  Speaker 6: Lions game in which that was not a sack fumble
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  Speaker 6: for a touchdown, And the fact that they overturned the
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  Speaker 6: call is going to provide such muddied waters on any
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  Speaker 6: sack fumble that will exist from here on out.
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  Speaker 4: And on top of that, the description from whoever the
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  Speaker 4: official in the booth was. That was Mike Pereira. Trying
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  Speaker 4: to explain why made no sense. Oh, here you go.
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  Speaker 4: Zero sense.
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  Speaker 6: If you guys missed it, Chase Young comes off the edge.
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  Speaker 6: It's one of those blindside sacks, arms back, not moving
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  Speaker 6: forward yet, ball squirts out, Saints return it for a touchdown.
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  Speaker 6: They go to review. Everybody's thinking, why is this reviewed? Like,
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  Speaker 6: this is pretty clear today.
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  Speaker 2: It's a fumble return for a touchdown.
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  Speaker 6: And they come back and call it an incompletion. Here's
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  Speaker 6: Pereira's explanation.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he had started his throwing motion. Now, throwing motion
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  Speaker 5: is bringing the ball up. Forget about the hand at
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  Speaker 5: this point going forward. Throwing motion starts hand going up,
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  Speaker 5: then is hit. Ball comes loose. His intent was to.
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  Speaker 4: Throw it forward.
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  Speaker 5: And since that motion had already started, that's going to
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  Speaker 5: be a forward pass no matter where it lands.
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to tell you right now, the NFL has
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  Speaker 6: a giant problem. Because if Nick Benito comes off the
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  Speaker 6: edge against an undrafted rookie left tackle tonight, hits Mahomes blindside,
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  Speaker 6: ball squirts out, Broncos pick it up, and they say, well,
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  Speaker 6: Mahomes' intent was to throw it forward.
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  Speaker 4: No kidding! Of course! That's why you throw the football,
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  Speaker 4: is to throw it forward.
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  Speaker 6: It's always your intention. It wasn't somebody's intention to throw
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  Speaker 6: a pick or to fumble or to miss a tackle
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  Speaker 6: or anything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, his intention was not to get sacked and fumble
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  Speaker 2: the ball. He... I'm sure he tends to throw it forward,
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  Speaker 2: but how do you categorize that as a forward pass?
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: It's just the dumbest thing ever.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I thought they were going to review on whether
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  Speaker 6: his arm was moving forward, and I thought to myself,
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  Speaker 6: who cares? The ball went backwards anyway. Like, in this case, Vic,
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  Speaker 6: Jarrett Stidham's intention was to chest pass the ball forward.
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  Speaker 4: In the AFC Championship game. Is that a fumble still?
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  Speaker 6: How is every quarterback, like, if you get hit and
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  Speaker 6: that happens, aren't you going straight to a ref and
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  Speaker 6: being like, Well, my intention was to throw it that way.
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  Speaker 4: So that can't be a fumble. I don't understand.
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  Speaker 6: And the only thing to me the NFL can do
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  Speaker 6: is come out and say, we messed up. If they
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  Speaker 6: do that, then they're going to be fine. But every
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  Speaker 6: time there's a sack fumble now, there's going to be.
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  Speaker 4: A question, what's the rule, right?
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  Speaker 2: Even Dan Campbell said, quote, I'll be the first to
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  Speaker 2: say I thought we lost that one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Everybody thought they did.
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  Speaker 2: Either way, kind of a crazy opening weekend in the
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  Speaker 2: National Football League, man.
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  Speaker 4: That was fun.
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  Speaker 2: And again, Vic, I don't bet, but I'm watching these
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  Speaker 2: scores yesterday morning in the morning games, and I'm watching
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  Speaker 2: 24-21 at halftime, and I'm like, good God. God, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's scoring. I mean, there was, there was scoring going on.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of points getting pulled up. Caleb Williams puts
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  Speaker 2: up 59 at Carolina. That's insane.
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  Speaker 4: The other, the other rule that continues to astound me
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  Speaker 4: and befuddle me. And I can't fake I'm watching Cowboys
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  Speaker 4: giants last night. The amount of contact between DB and
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  Speaker 4: receiver is gotten to a point now where what, what,
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  Speaker 4: what is happening? Are coaches coaching them just to, listen,
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  Speaker 4: get into them, grab them, and then receivers are grabbing back,
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  Speaker 4: and there's grab, grab, grab. I don't know what's going
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  Speaker 4: on anymore. Ball's in the air. It's just grab, grab, grab.
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  Speaker 4: Who's it on? When does it start? Who gets the penalty?
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  Speaker 6: If I'm an offensive coach, I'm telling every wide receiver,
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  Speaker 6: use as much of your hands as you can because
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  Speaker 6: you're almost never getting flagged for it. It'll always be
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  Speaker 6: on the defense. And then you can just put your
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  Speaker 6: hands up afterwards and be like, well, he was grabbing me. Like, actually,
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  Speaker 6: you both were kind of grabbing each other.
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  Speaker 4: Hand fighting. Hand fighting. Unless you're DK Metcalf. He got
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  Speaker 4: flagged for like three OPI calls in the Steelers game.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone else, though, you can get away with it. Well,
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  Speaker 4: he was a bigger receiver.
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  Speaker 6: And he was doing the I hit my spot and
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  Speaker 6: two arms shove you 10 yards downfield. That's pretty obvious.
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  Speaker 6: Here's what's weird is that. You guys remember the stat,
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  Speaker 6: and I want to look this up. Remember the stat
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  Speaker 6: of CU and CSU the last time they were both
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  Speaker 6: 1-0 to start the year, 2-0 to start the year?
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  Speaker 2: What, 96 or something like that? Something like that.
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  Speaker 4: 94?
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  Speaker 6: When's the last time the Jets and Giants started 1-0?
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: The Giants haven't won an opener in five years.
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  Speaker 4: Wow. Take a guess. I got the answer. The last
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  Speaker 4: time CU and CSU both started a season 2-0 was 1994.
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  Speaker 4: So it cannot be that long ago. I'll say 2005.
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  Speaker 3: 2003.
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  Speaker 2: 2009.
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  Speaker 4: It's a long time.
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  Speaker 2: That's 17 years.
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  Speaker 4: It's a long time ago. Now, the Jets had the Titans.
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  Speaker 4: That helped them. But I.
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  Speaker 4: I am very....
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  Speaker 6: I can't buy into this Giants thing yet. I can't
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  Speaker 6: do the Dart and Scataboo thing yet. And that's an
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  Speaker 6: impressive win last night against the Cowboys. I didn't think
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  Speaker 6: they were going to win that game. But there's something about...
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  Speaker 6: And I'm looking at Scataboo right now.
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  Speaker 4: It's just him. I don't know what it is about him.
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  Speaker 6: He looks like a YouTube streamer who just put on
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  Speaker 6: some football pads. I think that's part of my problem.
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  Speaker 6: The backflip in the end zone. Don't know why that
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  Speaker 6: bothered me.
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  Speaker 4: It did. He's just a giant meathead, and for some
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  Speaker 4: reason that bothers me.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you'd think because he was a one-time Sac
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  Speaker 2: State Hornet that I'd be all over a Cam Scadabo.
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  Speaker 4: You're out? That doesn't do it for me. You're right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, here's what I do know. The Chargers
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  Speaker 2: are a fraud. But I don't know what these other
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  Speaker 2: teams are.
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  Speaker 4: That's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the Giants really are. The Cowboys,
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  Speaker 2: I can't, Vic, I'm listening to all the shows yesterday morning.
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  Speaker 2: You cannot believe the amount of Cowboys hype out there.
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  Speaker 2: There was so much Cowboys hype.
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  Speaker 4: You know what? This is my Super Bowl team and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 4: They stunk.
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  Speaker 2: They were not good.
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  Speaker 4: I just smiled and glory ho. I want to pump
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  Speaker 4: the brakes on week one results because week one always
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  Speaker 4: produces weird results. It is essentially another preseason game. So
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  Speaker 4: as much as it was fun, I loved watching the
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  Speaker 4: Chargers lose to the Cardinals. That was fun. But it's
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  Speaker 4: week one. I'm telling you, be careful what you're looking at.
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  Speaker 4: It's not real. All right.
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  Speaker 2: When we come back, though, tradition. We are going to.
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  Speaker 4: Go with our tradition, Vic. Get your big boy pants
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  Speaker 4: on and get ready. What is it? You'll see. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: you'll know this tradition. Oh, you'll know this tradition. You know.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Look at you. You know.
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  Speaker 6: Shomp Mazda text line. One price, one person, one hour.
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  Speaker 2: 303-504-0925.
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  Speaker 4: Back after this. All right.
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  Speaker 6: So game tonight. Reminder to you guys. The final whistle
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  Speaker 6: is just the beginning. After every Broncos game this season,
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  Speaker 6: your favorite altitude personalities are live with reaction analysis and
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  Speaker 6: everything that went right or wrong. It's mile high post
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  Speaker 4: Vic, the tradition.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight, we finally get our team on the field for
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  Speaker 2: the first time.
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  Speaker 4: And it's on what, Brett? Connor voiced the Broncos' official
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  Speaker 4: hype video they did. Yeah. It was awesome. Oh, yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Was it as good as this? Go ahead now. Do-do-do-do-do!
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  Speaker 4: Mama mia. Oh, God, that's good.
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  Speaker 3: Tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Is it like that? Was it like that?
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  Speaker 3: Um.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the big thing. I was thinking about this.
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  Speaker 6: Reasons for this season, you know, we're talking about the
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  Speaker 6: Chiefs game tonight, but we've talked about the Chiefs. We'll
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  Speaker 6: continue to do so. Reasons why the Broncos season, I'm
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  Speaker 6: going to say, will be replicated from last year, which
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  Speaker 6: is top of the food chain in the AFC, win
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  Speaker 6: the division, all that stuff. And reasons why it could
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  Speaker 6: go wrong. I think the reasons why you could do
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  Speaker 6: it again are very simple. You returned everybody from last
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  Speaker 6: year virtually.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody.
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  Speaker 6: You know, 47 of 53 guys in the roster, right?
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  Speaker 4: You have a top-tier defense.
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  Speaker 6: And the biggest thing is you added a legitimate playmaker
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  Speaker 6: to your offense that you haven't had in a long time.
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  Speaker 6: Healthy quarterback, healthy J.K. Dobbins, brand-new Jalen Waddell. All of
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  Speaker 6: that stuff, I think, leads to, man, this could go
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  Speaker 6: really well again this year, right? The reasons why it
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  Speaker 6: could go wrong.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. What is that? Um, the reasons why
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  Speaker 4: things go wrong, decoupage on the side. Is that it?
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  Speaker 6: Um, I, I think for me, it starts with the
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  Speaker 6: one unknown, which is always injuries. And the Broncos haven't
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  Speaker 6: been really tested in that department over the last couple
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: of years. I mean, obviously they had it at the
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: worst time last year at the quarterback in the AFC
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: championship game, but overall, um, It's not like they were
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: missing key players for huge stretches of the season over
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: the last couple of years.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: That's one.
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: Number two, I'm optimistic about this, but we don't know
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: what Davis Webb's offense looks like.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: We don't know if this works.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: It's not his offense. It's Sean Payton's offense, but it's his... Yeah,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: people say that. His fingerprint's going to be on it.
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: I don't know if he takes the job unless he
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: has some autonomy towards it.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, I don't think he's
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: just doing that to.
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: be a middleman for Sean Payton relaying something to him
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: that he relays on the field.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's Sean Payton's offense though. And he's,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: he's going to operate within that offense and he'll put
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: his own, he'll put his own spin on things. I'm
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: sure here or there, but I mean, you know, he
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: didn't design his whole new offense and they're implementing it
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: for week one. Everybody already knows what it is.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: I just think it's a big factor. And the other one,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: I think they're going to be okay.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: Cause I trust Jonah Ellis, but I still am a
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: little bit worried about that. Whatever you want to say
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: about this, this is the truth. They have taken a
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: step back in the rushing department. When you lose JFM
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: and Jonathan Cooper for an unknown length of time right
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: now with Jonathan Cooper, you've taken a step back. Do
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: I think Jonah Ellis is capable of stepping in and producing?
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: But you aren't as good there as you were last year.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, let me ask the question I asked last week,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: and the question was received with a lot of venom
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: just for asking the question. Does this game scare you?
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Because it scares the hell out of me. I don't
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: know what you mean by scared. Do I think the
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Broncos could lose? Yeah, I do. Do I think the
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Broncos should win? Yes. So I don't know if that
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: means scared. I'm not scared. I'm not even at should win.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: I'm at can win. I'm at can win. Should win
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: and can win are two entirely different definitions. I think
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: it's an opener in a raucous environment. They're going to
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: be loud and proud as usual. They got that witch
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: on the other side who's coming back. I know Denver's
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: a better football team. I'm going to say it right now.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Denver's a better football team than Kansas City on paper.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: But tonight's game scares the hell out of me. Would
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: not be surprised if the Broncos come home all in one.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Now, how many games in a row did the Broncos.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Lose to Kansas City? 16. Was it 16?
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: And you can't, I think for like three years, you're like,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: this is the year. And then they go over again.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: You realize the Broncos have won three straight and four
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: of the last five against KC?
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: So the tide has turned, my man. The tide has flipped,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: if you will. Vic, I don't know.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Listen, the last losing season... Kansas City had a losing
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: season last year. The last losing season they had before
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: that was 2012, the year before Andy Reid took over.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: So I don't know what you're going to get out
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: of those guys. And in reading Patrick Mahomes' comments, I mean,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: he's like, I've never had an injury like this.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know how it's.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Going to behave, and I don't know what I'm supposed
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: to do, and I'm just going to go out there
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: and play the best I can. It didn't sound overly
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: confident to me.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: What kind of game do you expect tonight?
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: Well, let me just piggyback off something you said real quick.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: Because you said something that I think is really important,
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: and I want all Broncos fans to recognize something.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: You have the better football team. Yes. You look around
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: the roster, the Broncos are better than the Chiefs. The
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Broncos are better almost at every position except quarterback. Quarterback,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: tight end, couple.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: Couple of spots. But they're better in virtually every other spot.
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: And here's the funny thing. You think of the Chiefs,
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: you think of offense, right? You think of a bunch
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: of touchdowns and Patrick Mahomes throwing the ball for 5,000 yards.
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: You have the better playmakers. Portland Sutton and Jalen Waddell
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: is miles above what the Chiefs have for their one-two
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: punch at wide receiver. You have all of this on paper.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: You are the better football team.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Better defense.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: The big question is for the Chiefs, is Mahomes capable
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: of making up the gap? That's the big thing now.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: And to be honest, I don't know the answer to
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: that question anymore. I think if you asked me three
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: years ago, like, yeah, absolutely he is. He's still very good,
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: don't get me wrong. But I think that they are
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: missing a ton of stuff of what made them successful
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: a few years back on the offensive side. And if
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: the Broncos play a clean football game, they should win.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: They should. They should.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's... Should.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: It's such a loaded word. Well, they should. But that's
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: how you operate in the NFL. Like, the Chargers should
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: have won yesterday.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: The reason I have hesitancy, honestly, Vic, is because I
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: really have no idea about Kansas City. Maybe last year
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: was a one-off. Maybe, look, they had their first losing
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: season since.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: 2012, where they played a lot of football.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: They got banged up. Guys were tired mentally, physically, you know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: all this kind of thing.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Okay, fine.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: But maybe that's who they are now. Maybe they are
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: just a much poorer football team. Listen, it's a great
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: question for Mosher, though.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: It really is.
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: Because I admitted this in the appetizer, and I might
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: be dead wrong on this. Two years ago, when I
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: was saying, there's some cracks within that Chiefs team, and
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: then they went 15-1, I was still like, but I.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: I know I'm not seeing nothing here.
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: There's something that is off that doesn't look right to me,
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: despite them winning 15 games in a season. And then
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: I watched last year, and it almost kind of confirmed that.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: But could the Chiefs go out and win 14 games
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: again this year?
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess they could. I don't know what to think.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: I think it's just foolhardy to bet against that witch. Yeah,
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: that's true. And listen, do I think the Broncos can
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: win tonight? Of course I do. Would I be surprised
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: if they don't? Not one bit. Not one bit. Wouldn't
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: be surprised if they come home on one and I
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: wouldn't panic. And I'm just setting it up right now
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: because panic will set in if they do lose. Panic
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: will set in immensely. And I just want to be
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: on the record right now. Don't panic. It's game one.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Calm down.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: If you had to put your money down on this game, though,
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: who do you put it on?
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Probably Kansas City. Would you? Wow. Okay. That's where I
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: would put my money.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: The only, the only time I guess I would panic
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: because I look, I know how difficult it is to
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: go into Arrowhead. I know.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Well, I've been there many times.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: It's been a house.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: It's been a house.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: It's going to be windy tonight. It's going to be nasty.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just, it's part of the allure. It's,
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: it's part of the home field advantage they have. And,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: and I don't care what anybody says. This is a
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: different team. This is, that's fine. I've seen this game
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: played enough times to understand, respect that team and that
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: witch on the other side. And it wouldn't surprise me
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: if they found a way to beat the Broncos, even
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: though the Broncos, I think we'll end up with a
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: better record. They're a better team. Does that make sense?
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I think that you can respect the chiefs.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: And I guess what I'm saying is I respect the
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: chiefs and I have, I think more respect right now for.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: The Broncos roster. I do too. I just, I think
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: they're better. I just think they're better.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: As far as coaching is concerned, look, I believe in
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton, but Andy Reid's a pretty damn good coach, dude.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's a Hall of Famer when he's done.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: We all know that.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Vic, what has Arrowhead typically been in the past?
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: A house of what? A house of.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: You want my Sopranos definition? Yeah, yeah. I like that one. Whores.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: What's that? Whores. A house of whores. Okay. Okay. Hey, Tom.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: You ever been to that house of whores? That house
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: of whores.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I think they would say horror. But nonetheless, I just,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: I know what it's been. The only way I would panic.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: My favorite movie? The Rocky Mountain Horror Picture. Okay.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Get as much mileage out of it as you can
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: right now. I mean, get it all out.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Those words are way too close together. I reckon. You know,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: whoever designed those words in the English language messed up
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: big time. You're done messed up. Did you mean to
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: say the Rocky Hoor picture show? Yes, that one. Sorry.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: Was I doing Rocky Mountain Men's Clinic right there? You were, yes.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: The Rocky Mountain Hoor. Okay. Get it out. All right,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: I'm done. Okay, I'm done.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: If they went in, if the Broncos went in and
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: got pounded like 34 to 10, I might be a
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: little concerned. Because I think they're a way better football
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: team than that. That would be the only time that.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: I would go, wow, bro. Maybe they lost it. If
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: you feel the same way about the Rams, they lost
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: by 20.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you saw that what's-his-face is getting his
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: knee done. Miles Garrett, he's going to be out at
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: least a month.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: He's out a minimum of four weeks.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: At least a month he's getting his knee did.
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: You know, you said something last week, Moshe, and I apologize.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Did that rugby player do that to him, by the way?
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I guess they said it was all season long. I mean,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: all summer long.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: The rugby players are like, yeah, do it this way. Oh, well,
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: I just messed up my knee. What's up, Brett?
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: You said something last week, and I apologize because I
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: was rude to you when you said this. Why didn't
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: he get that done in the offseason? When after the
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: first game, he goes, yeah, I'm dealing with a knee problem.
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: And then he's now out for at least four weeks.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: I never understood Sandler. He's not the only one, by
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: the way. There are always these guys who training camp
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: rolls around. I got to get this done. Well, didn't
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: you have four months? Yeah. Are they hoping that it
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: just heals on its own? I don't know. What are
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: the exact words that Sandler says?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: That's information that would have been helpful yesterday.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just, you know, whatever. So I don't know.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Look. That was a highly disappointing loss for them to
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: start the season. But if the Broncos get pounded in
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Kansas City, yeah, I'm not going to like it, Vic,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: because this is a hell of a start to the
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: year for this team. All of a sudden, though, that
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Rams game looks a lot different now. With no Miles Garrett,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: it certainly does. He will not play against the Denver Broncos.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: I tell you what, as it approaches, again, that hype
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: video that the Broncos released featuring Conor's voice, Conor McGehee,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: he was fantastic. The hype is real, more real every
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: single hour that goes by. I cannot wait for this
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: game tonight. I can't wait. It is going to be
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: electric in that stadium, no matter what. It is going
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: to be crazy. And I think the first game of
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: the season, all the changes that have undergone that the
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Broncos have on the offensive side with the new play caller,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: the return of Patrick Mahomes, Please, don't sit there and
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: believe that the Broncos are going to blow out the Chiefs.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: That's not going to happen tonight. Record this. Write it down.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: You can write this down.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: It says Kansas City today. It's going to be a
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: high of 95 miles per hour.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: In there goes Jalen Waddell. A high of 95 degrees.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: 17 miles per hour winds. That's what I was trying
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: to put the both At the same time there.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Which is sunny. It says it's sunny and 95. And
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: maybe a little breezy.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a hot maw.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Speaking of. Hot maw. Did I see this right?
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: Because my TV was on mute. Holly Rowe, I think,
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: was doing sidelines. Yeah, she was for the Texas and
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: Ohio State game. Because that's when Sark said hook them
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: and just ran past her. Was she on the field
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: before the game saying the field temperature is 160?
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: 160. Did any of you guys see that? I didn't see,
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: but it wouldn't surprise me one bit. It was 103
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: degrees in Austin, Texas on Saturday. 160? Yeah, it was 103.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: That field, I've been there. It just, it almost, it
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: doesn't reflect. It absorbs. It is so hot there. It
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: is so ridiculous on that field. I don't know how
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: they play through that stuff. How does your skin not
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: burn when you fall on the turf?
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I know. Well, the turf is not 160 degrees, bro.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: They'd be melting shoes and whatnot.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: It feels like it.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: It just feels like it. Like, you know, the air
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: around it. It feels like that would be uncomfortable.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Feel all you want. Well, I've always made this contention.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Everybody gives Denver, oh, you have such an advantage because
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: of the altitude. Well, what about these schools, these teams,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: these cities where the humidity is a factor? We're not
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: used to humidity over here. That's a major... Humidity is the...
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: It's just the worst. Oh, it's the worst feeling in
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: the world. Would you rather have an incredibly.
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: All right, we'll just do this for the sport that
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: you know or that we participate in.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Golf. Super humid or super windy? Super windy.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: What would you rather do?
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Oh, God, that's a great question. I can't stand either.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: I hate the wind. I hate it. I won't even play.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: I won't even play.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: If it's humid, I'll go bang the ball around and
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: drink a lot of water.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: You'll be dripping. You'd rather be dripping in sweat. Absolutely. Yeah.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, I choose humidity as much as uncomfortable as
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: it is. And, you know, people that are sweating through
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: their shirt. First of all, I don't like to sweat.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: I don't like the feeling. I don't like any part
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: of it. Hold on. If I'm perspiring, I feel like
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: a loser. I don't like it. Don't you?
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: Isn't there a read that you do every day that
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: you started by saying, I love to sweat.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: If you're exercising. No, no, no. Big difference here. I
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: got big difference when you're exercising. If you're not sweating
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: while working out, what are you doing? What do you
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: go to the gym and the guys reading the paper
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: on the bike? What is that? Yeah, that's what that's.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: What are you doing?
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I've seen people read books like on those sit down bikes.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: They look in front of them. Like, what are you doing?
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: It's true.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: If you're reading a book during your exercise, your exercise
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: ain't enough.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Got to be a little bit more. You know, you
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: said it, though, as we get ready for this game tonight.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Nelly, please. Big, deep breath. Big, deep breath. One more time.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: Hang on. I do love this tune. I really like it.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: But we've been talking about this game for three months, man.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: It's finally here, but we've talked about every damn aspect
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: of this game.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Front, back, side, side, all sides, both sides, all sides.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: When we come back, I've got something about this game
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: you may not know, though.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Something that we have not discussed, yeah. What could you possibly...
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I have something. What could you.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Possibly have that we have not yet discussed in the
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: last three months?
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: I got a little something-something. You got something? A little something.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: Hold on a second. Texture just sent me a link
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: to an article on Yahoo Sports that said, let's find
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: it on here, that the artificial turf surface did reach
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: 163 degrees during that game.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Insane.
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: That's third degree burns.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: I'm surprised Bevo didn't turn into burger patties.
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: Dude, there was a cut. When she was doing that hit,
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: Bevo was like behind her. That poor thing looked like
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: he was going to pass out. By the way, get
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: this out of the way now. Talk about Ralphie for
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: 30 seconds.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: What an awesome run. I mean, she was hauling tail, bro.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: She was moving so, I mean, you can't, you cannot
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: be impressed with how she was moving. Those people were
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: hanging on for dear life.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Has to be that way. There has to be a
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: risk of life.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: And that's, that's what, but Brett, that's what the Ralphie
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: five was great. Uh, and Ralphie seven, I think has
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: a chance to be an old timer. I mean, she,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: that girl ran her tail off.
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: Speaking of college football, we'll get back to that in
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: just a little bit.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Stick around. All right.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: There's two things from the college football weekend that, um,
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: from a, a broader perspective, Ryan Harris coming up at
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: the top of the hour.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Yes. From a broader.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: Perspective that I came away, you know, taking something away
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: with now, Vic, you said you had something on the
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: other side.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: I'll let you start.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: It's, um, In the preview magazine that the Denver Post
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: puts out, it's well done, the magazine that came out,
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: I believe, a week ago, and I read through this thing.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I had no idea that this person existed. In this magazine,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: there's a picture of a gentleman here, and he is
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: the official Broncos game manager. He's a game manager. And
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: last year, remember how many one-score games they won, how
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: many comeback wins they had. Brian... What's his name? Yeah, Brian. No, Evan.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Evan Rothstein is his name. And he worked
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: with them last year. And essentially, when the games are
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: close and they've got to manage the clock and they've
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: got two-minute offense or whatnot, he takes over. He has
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: developed the software. And this is nothing new, by the way.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Every team has some sort of game management person. A
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: lot of them are up in the booth. talking to
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: the head coach, letting them know the odds, the analytics.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: It's another word for analytics. But some of the stuff
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: I read here, this is what this person does, essentially.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Maximizing win probability, utilizing programming language, he has built models
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: that use decades of data from NFL games, take commands
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: and output tangible recommendations for late game situations. Video gaming
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: has hit the NFL. Nerds.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: Nerds.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: So wait, he's just Jerry Ross. Nerd? He's Jerry Rosberg
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: with a computer? Yes. He built this stuff. He's been
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: building it since he was 18 years old. For example,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Rothstein would present a team's usage of a trips formation
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: with three receivers aligned on the same side of the field.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Rothstein could explain their tendencies. For strong side runs or
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: weak side runs or five-step drops or quick game looks,
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: categorize those tendencies by down and distance. He builds it
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: all from scratch, and then when it's game time, he
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: can access whatever tendencies that team has. That's cool. That
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: definitely has some value for sure.
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you what, winning 14 games the way they
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: did last year, it probably helped.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: He's doing something right. The only question is what the
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: hell was that game management system doing when they decided
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: to go for it on fourth down in the AFC
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: championship game with a winter storm approaching.
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: They Tyler bidet doesn't believe in your computers.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: I think that's what happened.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: Um, Can I give you guys a couple things? First
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: of all, two more really good games from both CU
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: and CSU. They played inferior opponents, but that's what you
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: should do to an inferior opponent. Juju looked great, which
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: is nice to capitalize and take the momentum off game one,
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: carry it into game two. But two things, real quick.
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: Number one, we've talked about Man, in college football, you
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: just never know year over year what a team is, right?
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: You can have all this evidence from the year before.
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: And I thought if there's one team that I would
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: have a pretty clear picture of, it would be a
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: team that somehow returned a quarterback who was probably getting
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: drafted in the top five last year and was already
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: a college football playoff team. Oregon lost to an Oklahoma
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: State team who was on a 12-game losing streak going
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: back to last year, including losing their first week's game
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: against Tulsa. They lost 39-31. And here's my question. How
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: does that happen?
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: Well, Oregon barely snuck by its opening game, number one.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: So they showed you who they were. Opening week. And
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: then they really displayed it. Boise State can be a
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: tough team. They can be. All right. So that one
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: was like, okay, close game. They eked it out. This one, bizarre. Moser,
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: it's your stage. They are who we thought they were.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Your lay it down segment featured this game. You owe
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: a huge apology to Steve Smith, who I know is
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: listening and waiting for your apology. Well, I got a
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: message from Bill who said, who's Bill? Steve will know.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Okay. He said, I spoke badly about his OSU Cowboys,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: and he had to golf with Steve while the game
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: was on and listen to him talk about the game
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: and whatnot.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry, boss.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I guess I'm not sure that I was wrong about
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: your Cowboys game, But I certainly was wrong about the Oregon.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Ducks because they were terrible. Terrible.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: You know, here's where the rankings are so stupid. So
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Oregon barely sneaks by Boise State in the opener. And
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: then they lose to a team that hasn't beaten anybody
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: in over a season. Their last win was the opener
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: of last season. Okay. So here's what they've done the
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: first two games. How are they still ranked? How is
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Oregon still ranked? Explain that to me. Well, how far
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: down did they go?
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: 23. Okay, they started the season at 2.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: They shouldn't be ranked.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Well, now they won't be. Well, they're not.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: No, no, the rankings are out.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: They're 23. Wait, they're still ranked? Yeah. I thought you
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: meant after last week.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: No. No, they went from 2 to 6 and now
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: 6 to 23.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: Explain that to me. 17 spots.
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: The nice thing is none of these rankings matter, but
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: they are, like, I like them.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: But it just goes to show you the flaw of
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: college football. Of course. And therein lies the flaw. This
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: pre-existing notion is there's no way this team can be
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: this bad. Yeah, it's just that bad.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: We're going to talk to Ryan Harris in 10 minutes.
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: He'll recap the college football and NFL weekend.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Also, I went 2-2, okay, with the lay it down.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: I went 2-2.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: That means I get my music back.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: True. Nelly, you want to give us a little? What
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: do you mean? A little taste. No, you don't get
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: your taste now.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: No.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: Okay. What do you think? You're going to get extra
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: credit for going 500 over a weekend?
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Louisiana Tech. They were held to seven points.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: The entire game. Hang on a second. Hang on. Hang on.
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: Before you do a whole recap of your picks from
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: over the weekend.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm not doing that. I'm telling you just
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: one thing.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: What did he finish? I don't know. He was 2-2.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: He's going to get his music back this week.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: For.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: Wait a minute. Is that how soft we are?
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: If he goes 500, he didn't lose money, so he
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: gets his music back.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Those are going to be the rules. He lost money.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: Then he lost the big. No, he lost house money. No, man.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Don't be that soft. You're that soft parent. Your kids
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: are going to be spoiled. I can see it already.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Your daughters are going to be spoiled. You're going to
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: give in to him. You got to finish with a
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: winning record or you don't get your damn music.
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: Here's the thing, though. I like the bit of him
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: having the music. So it's like it's a little give
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: and take.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: It's a win-win for everybody.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Everybody gets a taste.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Everybody gets a piece.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: So hang on, hang on. Oh, go ahead.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Louisiana Tech scored with 246 left to go over.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: So two things here. Two things here. The pink ribbon too?
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: You want the white ribbon? Which ribbon do you want, Moj?
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you got a lot of white ribbons.
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: Here's the other thing. Texas coming back and winning. Three touchdowns, unanswered,
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: beat Ohio State.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Dude, I'm not kidding you. Going into the fourth quarter,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this game is over.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Over.
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: But, but, but, this is something new. College football's a
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: long season now.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: I think this actually benefits Ohio State.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: I thought the same thing.
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: You lose this way, you learn a lesson. You aren't
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: going to be punished for this in the committee's eyes.
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: If they're a two-loss team at the end of the year,
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: they're going to be viewed as the number one two-loss team.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: They'll get in. They're going to be totally okay. I
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: think it's great for Ohio State. If anything, it makes
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: them a little more dangerous. Look at Miami last year.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: They lost a couple games and just roared through the
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: playoff the year before that. Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: They played in the national championship game. I think losing
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: early almost resets your clock.
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: There's, there's something to the idea. Look, man, 20 years ago,
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: if this is the BCS, this might've tanked their season.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, one loss might do it.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: You don't know. It's not like that anymore, man. You
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: just got to get in the dance. That's it. And
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: it's hard to go undefeated in college football these days.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: Is anybody going to hold a one point last second
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: loss against Ohio state to Texas at the end of
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: the year?
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Nope. Not one bit. In fact, I'm surprised that Ohio
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: State dropped that far in the polls. I mean, the
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: polls mean nothing. The BCS polls, everything. But do I
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: think if you play that game again, Texas, Ohio State,
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: I think Ohio State wins that game seven out of
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: ten times. I do, too. I don't think Texas is
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: better than Ohio State. I think Texas took advantage of
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: the extreme heat. We mentioned it. They're better equipped for it.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: They practice in it. They look like a fresh team
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. Ohio State looked like they were done.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: Here's the other thing. After a week of What do
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: they call it? Is it a pillory?
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: Is that where you put your hands and your face
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: and think people throw tomatoes at you back in the day, right?
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: Is that what it's called? Sure.
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: After a week of doing that to Michigan, they play
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: number 11 Oklahoma in the big house, and they win.
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: To their credit, they took all of the barbs and
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: all of the jokes that came their way for a
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: week straight, and they get a big win against a
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: borderline top 10 team at home.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: There is one problem, though, and you don't want to
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: make too.
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: Many conclusions after two weeks of college football, but I
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: think we can say this pretty safely. Michigan's defense is
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: going to keep them in every single game this year
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: because they are dogs defensively.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Are they the new Iowa? But here's their problem. Is
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: that it? Bryce Underwood still sucks. Like, he's still bad.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: But what's crazy about that, Brad, is that he was
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: a five-star for everybody. He could literally have gone to
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: any school in the country that he wanted to go to.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: He could have.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Everybody thought he was by far the best. I mean,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: everybody offered him.
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: a question. Close game, ranked team at home. Do you
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: trust your quarterback if you only allow him to throw
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: the ball 17 times?
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: The answer is hell no.
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: And Whittingham is going to have his own Tim Tebow
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: Broncos thing going on here. If they continue to win games,
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: but he continues to play poorly, he's stuck. He's stuck
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: with a guy that you've committed to in at least
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: some sense, and how do you make a change when
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: the team's winning?
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Good point. Somebody on the
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: text line, 7319, regarding the argument we made about Ohio State,
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: and I don't think this does anything to Ohio State,
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: losing to Texas the way they did. Somebody wrote in, well,
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: that loss, because Texas did lose at Ohio State last
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: year to open the season. That loss hurt Texas last year,
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: kept them out. No, it didn't. The loss to Ohio
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: State didn't keep Texas out. What kept Texas out is
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: losing to an unranked Florida team later in the season.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: That's what kept Texas out. Now, if Ohio State does that,
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: different argument. I'm talking about this one particular game. Pay
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: attention now. When you have two Titans going at it,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: and it ends up like that, a push, basically, doesn't
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: hurt any of them. In my opinion.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: By the way, Joe writes in, Vic, and says, My
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: wife and mother-in-law are watching.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: The show with me today. They're trying to figure out
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: what hat you're wearing.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: What's on your hat? Please tell me. It's driving me crazy.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Holy Family. My alma mater. I thought they were purple. Well,
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: they make different color hats.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Ooh.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: I'm colorblind. I don't even know what color this is.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: Congrats to Arvada West, Lauren Alcamo, our student of the week,
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: presented by Mr. Reuter, proudly rooting for Colorado students and
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: athletes on Friday night. It's number one versus number two,
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: Cherry Creek at Valor Christian at seven. It's right here
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: on Altitude Sports Radio, 92.5. Get back to the Broncos,
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: Monday night matchup, game one against the Chiefs, along with
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: the NFL weekend next.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: And Ryan Harrison.