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After 15 years I CANCELLED my trip to Karbala - ft. Sayed Morteza · After Maghrib 🌙

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Bismillah Rahman Rahim Salami coming up to live.
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Look to welcome back Grand Sisters to the Aftermarket
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podcast. We are fast approaching the day
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of Arbaeen and of course, for those of us who are still here
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at home, we pray in Shallah next year, we have the opportunity to
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go. Our hearts are in Karbala, we
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wish we were there. We yearn to be alongside our
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Imam Ali Salaam, Abufal Abbas Ali Salaam, but in Shallah next
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year, we'll have the opportunity.
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For those of us who have friends or family there, Shallah,
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they've arrived safely. Before we get into the episode
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Bruns Sisters, I just wanted to mention a small campaign.
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After Maghrib are running every year, you'll know we have the
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opportunity and the privilege of working with the Abu Fadl Abbas
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Alayi Salaam Shrine and their media department to be able to
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produce English content for people around the world about
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Arbaeen, because we're not there this year, we still wanted to do
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something for the Arbaeen season.
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So we are contributing and with your support we're able to
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contribute water, water to the Zawad in the burning and the
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scorching heat of Iraq at the moment, temperatures reaching up
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to 50°C. We're giving water to those who
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are visiting, the one who died thirsty on the day of Ashawa.
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This is the greatest blessing you can give to the Zawad to be
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able to serve the Zawad. Brother, sisters, there's no cut
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or profit in it for after Mahalib, just solely and shut
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Allah, fisabil Allah if it's accepted.
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But what we are trying to do is to raise money for those who are
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visiting the holy shrine. And you can support this by
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cups of water. And for those of us who have
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been on Ziata, you'll know how precious those tiny little cups
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of water are. But yeah, before we go any
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further, say it Ali. Salaam Ali.
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Alaikum Salaam. How are you, my brother?
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I want to say al Hamdullah while Hamdullah Alaq and I'm I'm
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devastated. I'm not Karbala I.
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Know. You know, for the last few days
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of. You and I both.
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Just speaking to people who have booked and who are going and
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some who are already there already.
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And, you know, sometimes when we open up our feeds and come
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across clips of people taking on the Mashiah, for example, people
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serving the Zoar or people entering the shrine of ABBA
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Abdullah Al Hussein, starting from Lejef Amiram.
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Like these things. They're playing Mohawk, Yeah.
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That's how I feel. But you know what?
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You. Say how you're feeling.
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Yeah, even, for example, like the airport trips, like dropping
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friends or family to the airport is emotional.
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The other day I was, I dropped someone to the airport and like,
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it really hit me, you know, this should have been or not should
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have been. It could have been me, but next
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year and Charlotte, the best we can do is just to try and serve
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the Zawah. Ultimately they were chosen and
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they have a special rank this year amongst the Mott Minin who
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have the blessing and the privilege to go.
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So Charlotte next year, Charlotte, we have the near.
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We go together and Charlotte and the whole team, Bruns sisters.
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We have a very special guest on the Aftermarketed podcast today,
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friend of the team, not just a friend of the team, family to
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the team as well to me and said Ali as a brother, but literally,
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quite literally a brother to our dear beloved, said Mushtaba, who
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you guys will know from sometimes on the couch, but
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mostly behind the camera, said Motodal Hosseini Islam Alik
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Hussein. How you doing much?
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For having us. Hi, baby, said.
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How are you? Lovely to join you guys on the
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couch. About time.
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How's it going? There's a watch behind the
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scenes. Happy, we say.
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That's great. Amount of words.
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Happy, we say to. You here honestly is.
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This stuff, like, I know you've been on camera, yeah.
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Is this the first time you've done podcast?
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Podcast. Yeah, first.
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Time. First time I've done shows but
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those are mostly live and no one sees them later on.
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So those are just one offs and you're off but this one.
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Saying that this season out of Bahin for the last probably 1520
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years for you has been like havoc, chaotic in a good way.
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How much sleep are you getting right now?
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How much are you doing per day? For those who don't know, of
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course you are heavily involved in all areas of the community,
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of course in in the media field, with the moment I say on TV and
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with your local community and so much more.
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What's what? What does your average day look
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like right now? It's very different when I'm in
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Araka, when I'm in London, so, so work is very different.
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Like when you're in Araka, it's mostly it's not production, it's
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meeting people and Cos back it's a central hub.
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You're seeing people that you haven't seen for years, like
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supporters of your projects and dozens of your projects.
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So you meet them on a one to one basis, like then US, Australia
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and you meet them in Karbala. So when you're in Karbala,
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you're meeting people, but when you're in London, it's mostly
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production and and coordination between our team and London
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team. So it's different.
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But when you're in Karbala, it's different.
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Like I remember every year we go, like I travel a lot with Ali
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Hassan Gigani. Yeah, we did a lot of our trips
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together. So when we go Karbala, like the
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last thing we think of is hotel because we're not staying.
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Like you barely sleep when you're in Karbala is you're all
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you're doing Ziara or you're. Out running.
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Around seeing people, yeah, fair.
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It's different. But now this year, like London,
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unfortunately I'm not able to go.
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Like I think my first trip, I don't know what year it was if,
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said Ali. We went, I think I was like
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1516. Yeah, 2008.
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Yeah, we were young kids back then.
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This is the first time I don't go after those years.
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I don't know how many years it's been.
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Yeah, over 16 years, 15 years. Fair.
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It's the first time I go fair. It feels very different, Very
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different. Why does it feel different?
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Why? Exactly, exactly.
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And it's easier to say you're seeing everyone going and you're
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just here and you're like when I watched the out of buying feed,
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which were broadcasting and I'm like emotion.
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Well, I don't sit in this control room because I'm like.
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Can I ask you, do you know when you do all of these things, do
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you feel you can benefit to the same level?
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Because I know, for example, I think said Ali and I are lucky
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to the degree where where like not so technical said Ali is
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more than me. For me, I can just about tell
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AA, AAA batteries what's what's what's what, you know?
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But like, can you fully experience Majalis, the walk in
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Zeala itself? Do you know what I mean?
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Are you honest? Like the last 16 years, like the
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guys in London will take care of all the broadcast for Cabrera
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and they'll work after Iraq team.
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Like, I barely get involved because I got alacked.
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I just leave them to it. Yeah.
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And they do like the I plan ahead for them scheduling and
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what time and what they need and the graphics and all those stuff
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I do for them. But I don't get involved after
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that. Like I leave it to them to do
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everything. So when like this year, because
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I'm in London and I can't go, I'm pushing them to do more.
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And I feel like in the last couple years there's a short
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coming from me because now I'm on the ground.
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I see like where we're lacking. Like when the YouTube broadcast
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doesn't go live, like when I the last 15 years, I won't care when
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they message me stuck for a lot. Like no, I don't care.
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But I'm so busy, I can't reach out to to the person that
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manages YouTube or like when social media something's not
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posted, like I just let it go. But now that I'm in London and
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I'm seeing that people are like yearning to see the Mashiah,
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it's like I have to do as much as I could.
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Yeah, of course. And yeah, I don't know if I went
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off the. Sun No, no, no bro, I don't.
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Remember what the question was I'm trying to recap.
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Like, how do you do you feel like you can experience it to
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the same degree? Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah, I feel like you missed out.
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I do. I missed out a lot and like
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yesterday I was going to take us to Hara to go.
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Then I was like if it comes out good, then I have to go.
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So I was like, let me not take, let me stay sitting because I
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have to take the whole family and then it's sake.
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Sometimes there's a greater plan.
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Yeah, if you don't know Charlotte.
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And Charlotte? Not this year, Next year.
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Charlotte. Charlotte together again.
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Charlotte. Because you know, firstly,
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you're Karabelli, so you know the insurance and outs of the
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Holy City and you've been there many years.
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But something I think unique I've seen that you do say it is
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that you encourage people to go to the Yeah, I like I I know
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first hand from people who if I ask them how you went to Irvine
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this year because yes, hey, Mortava made me go.
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I mean, yeah, yeah, you, you come across.
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I've heard about visuals. It's going around, yeah.
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What drives you to do this and why are you encouraging people
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that have no intention? They have the earning to go, but
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they don't have that push. And let me and push that as
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well. If there are people who are
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watching right now who either are new Shia, like Reverse or
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people who have never been and like, yeah, yeah, honey, I want
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to go, but it's too crowded. It's too hot.
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It's I'd rather go. And when it's not masseuse, it's
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quiet, period. What would you tell them?
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I'll say go. It's a different experience.
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Arvine is a different experience.
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It's not like normal Ziyada. I know it's busy and it's
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difficult to get around like I find it hard to get around.
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But you want to experience the feeling of Arvine in a different
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time of Ziyada like but. Why is it different?
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What's that? What's that feeling?
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The people you see, like you're everywhere you walk, you're
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seeing like it's like a shit a Hobbit.
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It's like everyone around the world comes together in that one
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season in Karbala and wherever you go you'll see someone you
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know, someone from your country, from America, Australia, Canada,
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UK, Europe. You'll see different people and
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you'll meet people like you won't.
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You won't realise you're just bumping into English like
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speaking people who have the same love you have from I'm
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Saying Alice. But if you go, for example, in
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April, for instance, you're only going to see Aracas.
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And it's it's it's beautiful because it's quiet, but the
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experience is different. Like the love everyone has.
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Everyone has the same objective as walking and and not enjoying
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the walk, but going through that walk experience and and eating
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from the same food and serving together it's it's a different.
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Feeling find a lot. It's one light.
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It's a sudden you feel special to be Shia.
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Yeah. Yeah, you're very.
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Proud in that environment, you have millions alongside you,
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millions who have done this every single year or millions
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who have come for the first time.
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And it's always that first time experiences that people have.
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Yep, that bro, they, they touch you and make you understand what
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a blessing it is to go on Zia because you know, sometimes we
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go year in year out, sometimes we go outside the seasons.
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Like we mentioned, people go during quieter times.
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Sometimes we don't realize the, the, the macam of the Ziara,
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right? We, we, we forget.
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But when we meet people there from different parts of the
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world, different walks of life, different backgrounds, different
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countries. Also, I say people who you would
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not even imagine go Ziara come Ziara and see what Ziara does to
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them. You're like, what is Imam
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Hussein? What is this Imam doing to the
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world? He's changing the world,
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changing our souls, changing the way we connect with our faith.
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And just on the point of you said, for example, it's like the
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hub of the show, you and Karbala, it's a magnet.
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It's a magnet for what? It's teaching us something, bro.
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And I think of it this way, when you have all these millions of
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people walking that tired, they've sacrificed a lot.
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They've, you know, closed their businesses, they've left family
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behind and they're walking to Imam and Hussain Ali Hassalam,
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not just for the siara, but as preparing us for Imam and Mehdi.
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I don't Allah to Alafaraz al Sharif that when he does
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reappear and shallah happens during our lifetime that we are
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ready for that. That we can, you know, lose
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sleep, we can lose our wealth, we can tell the family we need
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to leave. Like so much of these things
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prepare us for that. And the acts of kindness that
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you see the headsman that people have for the Zoawar bro, this is
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all preparation following. Trust me, trust me, you can't
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just because a lot of people say, OK, let's go Ziara, but why
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are we walking? Why the walk?
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Why? Why do you want to endure the
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pain? Why do you want to have nights
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where you're not resting? Well, you know, there's people
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Hataya who get sick. Yep.
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There's people Hataya who I've heard stories that I can't share
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here, that they go through sometimes traumatic experiences,
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but they say it's worth it. It's worth it because the
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ultimate goal is, Imam and Hussain say the Shabab gender
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from all of this in Ziara. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Proper Shia HQ. Yeah, Shia HQ is.
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Yeah, yeah, You know, I used to think the same thing.
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Like, I would think maybe we've turned into like a social
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festival to some degree. And like it's, it's nice, like
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all this much this in this hotel on this day.
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Yeah. And, and this modem session in
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that place on this day and so on and so forth.
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And you kind of schedule it out, you plan it, which speakers you
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want to hear, which reciters you want to hear.
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And I, I at one point it got to be like, well, are we kind of
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turning into like, you know, a huge festival, like I said, to
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some degree where I can listen to this here and you're taking a
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pic and you're picking and choosing what you want to hear.
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And does the walk become more important than the Ziala, the
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visitation itself? But then I thought of it.
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Like you said, in the grand scheme of things, this is a last
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preparation for us. Adebayeen is a microcosmic
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example of what the Mehta we society should look like, where
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for those few days you have no concept of wealth, no concept of
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status, No Arab is superior to a non Arab, no rich is superior to
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the poor, so on and so forth. And we see that pure
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pluralistic, egalitarian society manifest through the walk and
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the Ziata in and of itself. Do you know what I mean?
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And there's one thing beautiful. Ultimately, everyone is walking
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for the same purpose. Yeah, everyone is there for the
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same purpose. Mandela Diyeshwaru in Indahu
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Allah bit isn't it? Like who has Allah given granted
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the intercession for if not for Imam, St. al Islam, Bab al
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Hawaii, Jabufallah, Abbas Ali, Salaam, These are the two
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figureheads who we look to when we arrive in Karbala.
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We look at them and we first thing we ask for from our Hajja
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is to be able to return and continue to return into the die
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on that path. You know, I think sometimes we
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if we don't have that matter for perhaps of the Imam, we lose
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sight of why we're there. But ultimately, when you do go
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there and you reflect on the fact that everyone here is for
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the same purpose of mourning and learning from Imam Hussein, but
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also looking forward, preparing for the hold of the awaited
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imam, That's the difference between US and other schools of
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law. You know, we're forward-looking
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and we learned from the past as well.
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So I think that's, you know, one of the most beautiful
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experiences. You know, I haven't learned.
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I wanted to ask you specifically about changes you've seen or
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kind of miracles, either like literally direct miracles, but
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also kind of transformations you've seen within people and
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especially from within yourself. So for example, this, as I said,
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Ali said as a Karbalai, this is quite literally in your
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bloodline. You guys are the custodians of
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this land, you know, and this is what what a status that is to,
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to, to hold. But what transformation have you
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seen as an individual through all of these years you've been
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going forward, Zia to Arbaeen on yourself, but also from the
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people around you. Transformations at Handler,
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there's like been a lot that I've seen within like the groups
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that I take and the individuals that I take like at Handler.
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And like I said, I said we went on our first Ziara and 1516
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years ago and back and back then like I, I could say this is how
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old is it? It used to be cold back then.
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We used to wear Colts and. Yeah.
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And we used to walk across, it was rainy, muddy.
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It was beautiful, a different experience because you're
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walking in the cold. It was a different experience.
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And I learned this from our fathers, our elders who who used
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to take us to Ziyada and they used to take us all as young
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Shabab, as bad as we were and as how headache we were like one
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would sneak out. Now these guys used to prank
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each other, mess about on the plane and so on.
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But we all had that love to go back every year.
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And the cast now, like grown men of kids want to go back every
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year because our parents took us back then and that's what
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transformed us to who we are today because of what our
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parents did and the and like the first ship they forced us to go.
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Like who would ever think like say the other will take like
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1520 kids? Not just my father, but the
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other elder men that were wolf us.
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I'm saying Hamid, the most of his father and the others, they
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were wolf us as always to stay in their house with an edge.
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Who would ever think like they would want to take 20 young
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Shabab who were like naughty kids back then and not listen.
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And now look at all of us taking our family and kids to the other
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every year and we're yearning to go every year that we all want
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to go. And it's the same same group of
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Shabab who still go every year now.
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So when I take like Al Handela, I learned this from my father
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and, and the others, like I started, I at a certain time of
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my life, I was working for groups, I worked for spiritual
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journeys for about four years. So I had that experience.
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I, I saw first hand experience how they dealt with groups and
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so on. So Al Handela, I started taking
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on taking the younger generation from our mosque.
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I won't say like I was in a perfect manner as well 1516
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years ago like my Salah, my Salah my son is you were growing
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up. You're a teenager.
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If I stick a lot of these younger Shabbat from the
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Hussain. Yeah and and you see them in
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London one the one type. And then when you take them on
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Ziata, they they've transferred, transferred to different people
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like their Salah, first thing they do as soon as you're hair
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done. So yeah, I'm swearing it stops
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and they still joke and mess about.
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But they changed people. And it's not like I used to
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teach them on the way. I'm not the type who is that I
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don't give Islamic teachings or knowledge to younger generators
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because I don't think I'm learning enough.
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But like these guys will learn and pick up during that one week
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you're there in Karbala. So you see the transformation
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that the everyone goes through because you went through a
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transformation back then. And now the people that I'm
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taking on for the other, I used to, I unfortunately I've had to
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stop because of work commitments.
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But when I used to take them for about 6-7 years, you see what
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kind of people they are. Like we used to film short
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documentaries during our walks and there's like once me, I
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said, I do like we worked on back then.
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And then the guys started filming their own documentaries
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on their phone and you watch like the other day.
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Most of them are married now. The guys that I took and while
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at every time we sit like they're younger than me, but you
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see them at Husseinis and they all remember that like say
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motto, let's go again together and I'm so sorry I can't go
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anymore like as a group of you guys and it's memories that
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stays in them and look at them now.
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Everyone's changed. They're grown men pray fast.
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They probably like they have more Zamic knowledge than I do,
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to be honest. Mashallah on them.
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And I say that this trip is what changed them.
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I made them. That's the change I saw in
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myself. I think again, like just like
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them, that first yada I went to with my dad and the and the
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other Shabab is what changed me and made me who I am today.
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And the love that I have for going Ziadas is because when I
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was forced to go 1615 years ago. Said Ali has a phrase.
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Yeah, it's a question. Shall say a phrase.
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Yeah, I'll. Get scared.
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You're going to do a roast to my Arabic?
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Yeah, Allah, said Ali, says Shinu al Akhtaq al Hussein.
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Allah. I might not get it right.
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Absolutely spot on. What's your relationship with
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the Mama Has said. It's a difficult 1, you know, I
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see it like it's a relationship like at Handler, which is every
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egg gets built more and more. Like you get more and more
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attached to, to Mama Hassan and a little bit every year you get
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more attached. The more you work in the service
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of Mama Hassan, the more you're attached to him.
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And this is, you can't describe it, I'll be honest, like the
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more effect you have on people, the more you see that you have
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to carry on doing more for for your people around the world and
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I don't. Know you didn't answer my
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questions. Yeah, I know.
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I'm trying to think it's a difficult.
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It's a hard one. It's hard.
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I don't think you can say it what to be honest.
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Like it's it's, it's all deep down that I think everyone
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individually has their own connection that they have with
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ABBA Abdullah Hussein Alayhi Salaam and Inshallah always have
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this connection. Inshallah.
20:24
This is this is we say Nur Asul Allah sallallahu alayhi Alayhi
20:28
talks about the flame and the horse of the believers that will
20:31
never extinguish in the love of Imam and Hussein Alayhi Salaam
20:33
and this is living proof. I was gonna say other people
20:36
your your your love for the Imam and the other debate Alayhi
20:39
Muslim is manifested and personified through what you do.
20:42
Actions allowed in the words. You don't need to say it.
20:44
You don't need to see it. Yeah, You see it.
20:46
Yeah. And you you're not only like
20:49
it's not only a case of people see it through what you do, but
20:52
you've been even chosen to wear the badge of his name as your
20:56
day-to-day work and the the things you do in the community.
20:59
And this is something very few shit.
21:02
I have the privilege. Something we're talking about
21:04
just now. Before how, like your friends
21:07
don't look at your work. Yeah, yeah.
21:08
They don't value as much as other people do.
21:10
Like 100 and the last three years when we started on this
21:13
project in London for the new building that we purchased.
21:16
Yeah. I wasn't that much in the PR
21:19
section of the fundraising department of the Channel.
21:22
I was mostly in production and I was mostly behind the cameras.
21:26
I wasn't a confident speaker. I'll be honest, I was.
21:28
I would never speak like only with friends.
21:31
I would speak even of Ahmed. Like when I see I I can't have a
21:33
conversation because that's that's how to be honest.
21:36
No, but but like my work is what built me to I am today and
21:41
you're. A great speaker.
21:42
Handle that. But after, like because of this
21:44
project, I was forced to start fundraising for the channel and
21:47
I travelled a lot in the last three years.
21:50
I got to travel a lot from Singapore, Dubai, America,
21:55
Canada. They sent me a lot of places
21:57
around the world that handle that and the people that you see
22:01
and the attachment they have to the little bit and mom saying,
22:04
are they? So is, is what's the driving
22:06
force for us is like, I I would go create a live show and I'd
22:11
like, yeah, there's only like 20 viewers watching and that's it.
22:16
But then you go see these guys around the world and one's like
22:19
he's like, yeah, I'm listening to the podcast while I drive to
22:21
work. One is saying, oh, I saw it.
22:23
Like you walk around and people remember you because you came up
22:26
on like a 22nd ad on the share voice.
22:29
So it shows the extent that you reach around the world.
22:32
It's like we went Singapore a couple months ago, a year ago
22:36
and we sat with a family. There's about 90 shit are over
22:39
there and the, the place we went.
22:41
And these guys know like every piece of content you create on
22:44
the maps and TV and every speaker that features and every
22:47
presenter they know and they know you and, and because you,
22:51
you showed up on the share with. So it shows like what we're
22:54
doing is much bigger scale than what we think it is, even though
22:57
we're just in front of cameras or behind the.
22:59
Cameras Oh, you're right and I'm I'm, I'm not going to say you're
23:01
wrong either because we are literally just like a spectacle
23:04
of dust and the entire world of hitmen serving the religion and
23:07
the Al Bait Ali Musalam. And I think I want to talk a bit
23:10
about the media work that we all do here collectively.
23:13
But just before I go there, I'm going to go back to a point.
23:16
You spoke about transformation. You said, you know, you've seen
23:19
people who go there and their life get transformed, whether
23:22
they start praying on time or, you know, it's, it's, it's it's
23:25
really life changing one way. And for those of you who have
23:27
never been to Karbala, you got to understand something that
23:30
when you go to the Ziyar of Imam Al Hussain, you're not just
23:33
going to any grave. You're going to the grave of the
23:37
one we say in Safina, Tanja Tamasmah al Huda Rahmat Allah al
23:41
Wasai. Like there's a reason he has all
23:43
these titles and he has all these attributes.
23:45
He is our arc of salvation. He is the one who's going to
23:49
take us back if we're going left and right.
23:51
Like how many lost people do we find?
23:53
People who lose their ways or even sometimes ourselves?
23:57
Let's be honest, sometimes like we, we, we, we, we fall short on
24:01
certain things that we know these things we need to fix.
24:06
We think about about Abdullah and the blessing we have to be
24:09
Hosseini and Shia to attend these Majalis and to perform
24:13
these Ziaras. These are a blessing and they
24:15
take us back on track. I don't ever, if you're ever
24:18
thinking and what's the point of Ziara, I can say I can do Ziara
24:21
from far away. Yes you can.
24:23
There's no denying, there's no denying but there's a difference
24:26
when you go there. It's life changing and I say
24:28
that because I've seen it happen.
24:29
Like you speak about 1516 years ago, I remember I was telling
24:33
Ahmed as well. I think since 2910 onwards, I've
24:37
had the opportunity of Hamdullah to go almost every year and in
24:41
one of those years I went with a group of people and there was an
24:46
individual who came who I did not expect to come, but he came.
24:52
I think a lot of us encouraged him to come.
24:54
We love him. Yeah, of course we want the best
24:57
for him and everything. But he wasn't on on Dean.
25:00
If we can say those words, he came there.
25:03
He came Ziara and he said I still remember these words.
25:06
He was like, I'm standing here and Imam Hussain is there.
25:09
Like, the distance between me and him is like this.
25:14
And I say I'm Husseini because he used to show up just for
25:17
Majanis. Yeah.
25:18
But he doesn't live the Husseini lifestyle, Right.
25:21
And it was in that moment when he realized the shrine and the
25:23
grave, when Bam Hussein is just there and he's just meters away.
25:26
What is he doing with his life? And he didn't expect to be here.
25:31
So for him, it was a calling. It was as if Imam Hussein
25:33
invited him to come, and he accepted that invitation and
25:37
changed his life. And he made that.
25:38
He made an oath. He was like, I'm not.
25:40
I'm never going back to what I used to do.
25:42
And Hamdallah, today, he's got family, he's got children and
25:46
yeah, like. You know.
25:49
Transforms. Salaam has this effect on
25:52
people, and not only after his martyrdom, but even during his
25:56
lifetime, there were so many people who took up that
25:58
opportunity. And Imam Hussein went to them.
26:01
Yeah. Like you look at the head of
26:03
pain. Yeah.
26:04
And of course, we know he was with Mani.
26:06
We read his story. He would be ahead and Imam
26:09
Hussain would be behind. And then he would wait to
26:11
overtake and he would try and avoid meeting the Imam.
26:14
And at that moment when the Imam's messenger came to him and
26:17
said Imam Hussein wants an audience with you, Zohair would
26:20
say, OK, I'm coming in a bit. He said, no, the Imam is
26:23
outside. Yeah, Imam has come to you.
26:25
Are you going to deny him? And his?
26:27
Of course, his wife encouraged him.
26:29
Zohair couldn't say no. And these are examples that you
26:32
know the Imam and so many opportunities the Imam even in
26:36
his life, Ali Saddam consistently tried to give
26:40
people chances to turn towards Haq.
26:42
He spoke with Omar bin Saud for three hours on the day of
26:45
Ashura. He sent letters to the the
26:47
chiefs of the Ashirahs in the the tribes in in Basra and Kufa.
26:51
He spoke to so many of the commanders on the build up to
26:57
the day of Ashura. His sermons in Mina, his sermons
27:01
in Makkah, his sermons are in many of the villages on route to
27:05
Karbala. Like there are so many examples
27:07
in our Wyatt which specifically talk about Imam Hussein saying
27:10
to them, I am here standing in front of you, will you not turn
27:14
back towards Haqq? And then there are those people
27:16
who turned away. There's a story of a guy called
27:18
Obeyed Allah Who? This is crazy.
27:21
By the way, I only heard this last week for the first time.
27:24
There are people like Zuhair who turn towards the Imam and then
27:28
there are people like this guy. I believe his name was obeyed
27:30
alive and hot. I might be wrong, but I believe
27:33
this was his name. The Imam like he spoke to many
27:37
influential tribal leaders and societal leaders.
27:40
He spoke to this guy who was like a merchant or an affluent
27:43
businessman and he said to this guy obeyed Allah, I want you to
27:47
join me. I want you to give your
27:50
allegiance to to me and to stay alongside me.
27:53
This guy said to the Imam, he says yeah, ABBA Abdullah, may I
27:58
be sacrifice for you, I love you, I wish to be with you.
28:02
However, I have my business and I have my family.
28:05
I can't abandoned them. However I will give you
28:08
something more valuable than my life.
28:10
I'll give you my horse. And he says I don't want your
28:14
horse. He said no, I've never given my
28:16
horse to anyone but for you, take it.
28:18
It's the fastest horse, the strongest horse.
28:20
And mom said, I don't want your horse, I want you.
28:23
And this is just goes to show there are those people today,
28:26
they will do everything, including myself, first and
28:29
foremost, everything to, to, to with our lip service, with our,
28:35
you know, those who for example, we maybe for example, I take a
28:38
role of volunteering in the community and I want to show my
28:41
community. I'm Khadim and I serve and I
28:44
stir the ghetto and I put down the Sofrar and I do XY and Z for
28:49
show and for public recognition perhaps.
28:51
But ultimately if the Imam has come to me and I haven't
28:54
accepted him in my heart, then it's worth nothing.
28:57
This is these are the things we have to think about during this
29:00
season. Like your Behar to the Imam.
29:04
The Imam then in the same way they would have the choice to
29:07
give Behar to him then and only the minority did.
29:10
Are we going to do it now? They are to the Imam of our time
29:13
now. So yeah, sorry to sidetrack you
29:16
bro, I know you want to talk about.
29:17
This it's a vital point and I I'll add to that as well.
29:22
Actually, with your permission, say it.
29:23
Probably you want to say something, but no, no, just on
29:25
the point you were talking about when Imam and Hussain would
29:28
speak to certain companions and individuals and try and take
29:32
them back. Yani, if you think about it,
29:34
this is this is 1 la proper math and not everyone knows this.
29:38
Omar have been Saad. Do you know how much
29:39
conversations he had with the Imam?
29:41
So many. Until the until the eve of
29:46
Ashura, from the morning until the morning of Ashura, if I'm
29:48
not mistaken, Imam Hussein still gave him the opportunity to come
29:52
back and look at at where it reached.
29:55
But he chose dunya. He chose to.
29:57
He knew this was Imam al Hussein.
29:59
He knew this was the grand, the only living grandson of
30:02
Rasoolallah Sallallahu Alaihi. He knew he was the son of Atman
30:05
Zahra Alai Salaam. Yet the dunya swayed his swayed
30:10
his heart, right? And, and I think that's a trap
30:13
many of us can be trapped in today.
30:15
Trapped in the dunya. We love rasulallah sallallahu
30:18
alaihiwala, we love Allah azzawajal, we worship him
30:20
because he's worthy of worship. We know all of this.
30:23
But when the time comes, I don't know, because Imam and Bendy I'd
30:28
Allah to, if we can use him as our today example, our living
30:33
example, similar to the stories of Imam and Hossein, when he
30:36
comes, I'll be ready. That's a conversation for
30:39
another day. But it's something to reflect on
30:42
man big time, big time. And I think Inshallah, we are
30:45
ready for that, for that day. Be in the I want to go back to
30:48
the media world because with your permission, because you're
30:54
heavily involved in media. We have also a background
30:57
heavily involved in media. And currently we're hosting the
31:00
aftermath of a podcast. And like, I wouldn't say we know
31:03
it inside out, but we try our best to to hold inshallah, one
31:09
of the many flags of this religion and Inshallah, one that
31:12
has accepted in the eyes of say, the Papamalia.
31:16
Where can we improve from all your experiences, from all your,
31:21
I would say years of whether it's volunteering or working
31:27
directly or meeting different organisations, how can we
31:31
improve as a community as a whole when it comes to the world
31:34
of media? So, but not just Imam Khasin to
31:36
share your this very method because it's easy to make a live
31:41
show, to make a podcast, to work.
31:43
Yes, it's easy. It's easy, as in it's hard work
31:48
and you can support us. Visit aftermushroom.com/ER
31:51
Hussein So in the campaign so that we can continue these
31:54
convos, but where can we improve?
31:57
Because just before they say it came on, there was someone else
32:00
in there and he was like, how do you guys do it?
32:03
How do you reach the right audience?
32:04
How do you, you know, make sure that your content is going to
32:08
the right people? How can we improve to become the
32:11
very best in the world of Islamic media, the Sony world?
32:16
Amazing they're 1010 Marshall yeah correct.
32:19
And they've done amazed. I've I've seen yeah, I, I you
32:23
can disagree. No, I'm not talking about the
32:25
content. I'm saying the way they market,
32:27
the way they. Do them, you know I've got 2
32:30
points. Sorry your brother's disagreeing
32:32
in the background. Yeah, I I disagree as well, by
32:34
the way. I agree to disagree both ways.
32:37
I think there's two aspects which we lack in our communities
32:40
around the world with shit and media outlets.
32:42
We can't blame finance. Don't blame finance.
32:45
I I was going to say finance, but that was later.
32:47
This is where I say the Sunday. Professionals.
32:49
Yeah, media professionals, like people who have worked in the
32:53
mainstream media industry. We have.
32:56
We have like someone that we all look up to, media hasn't and
33:01
he's doing amazing work. But how many media hasn't?
33:03
Do we have one? That was the tale 23.
33:06
There's only a handful of of how many professionals in the media,
33:10
behind the scenes professionals leave presenters to one side.
33:14
We have made Hassan, which is number one in the UK, in the
33:17
world. OK, but then how many like that?
33:20
How many big director names do we have in UK, Canada, America,
33:24
let's say that we could say are big directors Like nothing
33:29
because not because he's my cousin or anything, but like the
33:32
only amazing big projects I've seen come out of the Shia media,
33:37
for example, other than Anya has stunned as a big TV, severe TV,
33:41
everyone they've done amazing work the last couple years.
33:44
But I'm saying TV as well because I work for them.
33:47
For example, the Shia voice like after Maghrib as well.
33:50
And you have only how many TV channels you have unfortunately.
33:54
Like after Muslim I'm saying TV shit, let's cap it at 1010 Max.
34:00
In the English world in the last couple years, even Arabic.
34:02
There's no big Arabic channels, massive media outlets.
34:06
What can I ask NBC? Are you talking because first
34:08
you said about presenters in the wide?
34:10
No, but I'm saying both. We don't have.
34:11
We have presenters. OK, so you don't have Shias in
34:14
wider media? Wider media, which we don't
34:15
have. Unfortunately we don't have
34:16
expert Shias within Islamic. We have, but unfortunately
34:20
they're unseen talent. Like recently I got to know a
34:24
university lecturer in, in Manchester who's who's a film
34:28
creator and he's, he's, he has amazing content.
34:31
I've never heard of him in my life.
34:32
I only found out about him because one of our donors left
34:35
money next to him. And I, this is fun.
34:37
That's how I found out about. But I'm saying like there's only
34:40
selected number of people we have in the media industry.
34:42
I wasn't a professional. I had to learn my way into it.
34:45
And a lot of people that we train in the channel, for
34:47
example, after 5-6 years, they leave.
34:51
And unfortunately, because it falls down to finance, you can't
34:56
force someone to stay at their jobs if you can't.
34:59
Incentivize them financially. Yeah, you can't beat the
35:01
competitors out there, so of course.
35:03
The guys come us back down to money.
35:05
To money, but we can't blame all the time.
35:07
I think, I think if I can be honest with you, yeah, I think
35:10
it's much broader than this. But well, see, the way I see it
35:13
is I don't look at it as Islamic media is there.
35:16
We're looking at how to improve this.
35:17
I look at it as Shia community more broadly and our community
35:21
literacy when it comes to media. Yep.
35:23
So that includes our mosques, our youth groups, our AB Sox,
35:27
our TV channels, our social media pages, all of these kind
35:31
of different establishments and institutions generally have to
35:34
improve in their literacy on how to utilize social media and just
35:38
general media, of course. So for example, our centres, I
35:41
can't imagine how many sensors you've worked with, live
35:43
streaming, lectures, events, probably hundreds.
35:46
Yeah, I remember the days when we were doing the TV channel
35:49
work, it was at least in the hundreds as well.
35:53
The main issues, I know sensors are getting better, but having
35:57
high quality equipment and sound.
35:58
And I know our respected speakers and scholars, they've
36:00
mentioned this a lot, but high quality tech and sound and all
36:03
of that. But also just generally maybe
36:06
and maybe these are the things that we can do because now with
36:08
Hamdallah, we're all like in our 30s.
36:10
We've had a good 1015 years under our belt in this field,
36:13
developing A framework for our younger brothers and sisters to
36:18
get into journalism for the cause of a last one.
36:23
So that could be, you know, hosting seminars in their
36:26
centres, doing little community podcasts, because that would
36:30
develop and in turn generate networking conversations,
36:34
discussions. Maybe I'm seeing it more from
36:36
the like content side of it as opposed to the infrastructure
36:40
side of it, which I know you'll see it from that perspective.
36:43
But I think it's it's multi pronged, but definitely like
36:46
finance is the core of it. Finance is the core and
36:49
unfortunately our communities don't understand the importance
36:52
of it. Like I use this a lot as
36:54
example. Like when I want to take my
36:56
younger brother, I have a younger brother who's who's 20
36:59
years younger than me. He's 20 years younger than me.
37:02
When we tell him let's go to the Hysenia, he's not going to the
37:05
Hysenia if his best friends are not there, if he's not taking a
37:07
football from his iPad. But when he tell him, let's go
37:10
shit our voice, he's the first one to be there.
37:12
This is like today's today's day and age.
37:15
The only way to bring the youth closer to the religion is
37:18
through what they like. Like a lot of people say you
37:21
guys are crazy spending half £1,000,000 on ATV show, 19
37:24
episodes. It's a big amount of money.
37:26
But once I remember when we first gave away the £10,000 gift
37:31
to to to the winner of the year, always one of our donors is
37:34
like, you guys are crazy. How?
37:35
How can you justify giving £10,000 to the winner?
37:39
Then Hajj Hassen Fed my manager replied to him.
37:41
He's asked him if your son was to go to university, would you
37:44
sell your house for him to make sure he graduates and goes into
37:47
uni? He's like, of course I would,
37:49
he's like the Shiite kids in the world are our responsibility.
37:53
We have to spend whatever we have to make sure they graduate
37:56
from from the university of little bit and hold the Quran.
38:00
And he's like, this is the only way to make them attached to the
38:02
Quran a little bit is by creating shows which, which is
38:06
high standards like Netflix or like Britain's Got Talent.
38:10
I know a lot of people say you guys are copying Western
38:12
television, but Western television is bringing our youth
38:15
in to watch. So if you're copy pasting but
38:17
giving them Islamic knowledge and and or iron and poetry and
38:21
lecturing, of course it is what is you're you live in the West.
38:24
You know, it's interesting because I feel like on the money
38:26
side of it, our community and just generally people in the
38:30
West are kind of torn between so many causes.
38:34
Yeah. And like it goes without saying,
38:36
there's there's we're seeing genocides right now.
38:38
We're seeing wars in Palestine, Iran, in Lebanon.
38:41
And at the same time then you've got causes on the ground.
38:44
We have so many ample that are why art about poverty in your
38:47
locality, your neighbors and all of that.
38:50
So not only that, you've got a crisis overseas, you've got
38:52
domestic issues for living in a recession.
38:54
The worst fuel crisis is humanity.
38:56
People are tight with money. So then if you say to them
38:59
here's £100 to spend on charity, give it to a 'cause you really
39:04
identify and connect with most people.
39:07
I don't know about all people. Most people will give it to a
39:10
relief based project, Understandable.
39:12
So they'll give it to something which pulls on their emotional
39:15
heartstrings. Water orphans, disaster relief.
39:19
Understandable. OK, media in many ways, like you
39:23
said, equally as important in in some ways, but also it's
39:27
investing in the future of of our communities, younger
39:32
generations, but in a more intangible way.
39:34
You can't visibly see what you're doing to someone's heart,
39:37
you know, you can't see the impact that you're having to
39:39
summon 3000 miles away. And these are the things which
39:42
come out of investing into media, be it aftermarket able or
39:45
the TV channels or anything else equipment in our centres.
39:50
But those are the kind of small and intangible benefits that
39:52
will go decades long in terms of the benefit and the teddy beer
39:56
we have for our families. Do you know what I mean?
39:59
I think this is probably something you felt as well, that
40:02
fundraising for media. Is exhausting.
40:06
The days I worked at Adam Bay TV were some of the most character
40:11
building days for me because we did fundraising.
40:13
Hamdallah, great success, fundraised well in the years I
40:17
was there. Fundraised hundreds of thousands
40:20
of pounds for media. But like you said, we always
40:25
have to remind ourselves where we are in comparison to the rest
40:29
of society. If we're falling behind in terms
40:31
of technological advancement, our youth will always look to
40:35
the alternative. Unfortunately, the alternative
40:37
is filled with jahiliya and distractions and all sorts of
40:41
haldam. So the argument to say that we
40:44
have to replace it with equivalent forms which are halal
40:48
is a fair argument to make. You know, like we, I think we
40:51
also undervalue our own content and what we work on.
40:54
I was speaking to someone from a Sunni TV channel, big Sunni TV
40:58
channel in the UK. They're on Freeview and Sky and
41:01
they're on every single platform.
41:03
We're speaking about some fundraising projects we're doing
41:05
for another charity. Then he was telling me he's
41:08
like, you know, 'cause I was, I was introducing myself, I was
41:11
acting. I've worked on Share a Voice
41:13
project, I've worked on so and so projects.
41:15
He's like, I know every single project you're talking about.
41:18
Then I start laughing like how come he's like our directors
41:21
make us sit and watch them on CNTV really throughout the day.
41:24
They play on us on ATV in our office and they make us sit and
41:28
watch you guys program to get ideas.
41:30
And I'm thinking, bro, I'm watching and these Youtubers and
41:34
I'm getting ideas from them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:38
It's quite, you should understand where we're getting
41:40
our ideas from as well. Fair.
41:42
It's like, again, I think at the same time we undervalue our
41:45
quality and what we do as well for.
41:46
Sure. Often we, I think we definitely
41:48
do. There's been so much convoys,
41:50
Ahmed, you know, there's people. Oh, as in personally myself,
41:54
like just with the work that we do here after Maghrib, how much
41:58
time someone has come up to me? Are you going to continue every
42:01
week? You know, is this what you're
42:03
going to do for the next few years?
42:04
Charlo, I know you know why I don't think people understand
42:08
the impact media platforms have on those who want to learn about
42:14
Shia Islam, on those who want to clear a misconception on Shia
42:19
Islam, on those who are shy to ask a question to Al or scared
42:24
to speak to their parents about certain subject.
42:26
Whatever it is, media is the best way forward.
42:30
I even if I think about my children growing up, I wish back
42:34
then I had Islamic media or Shia Islamic media.
42:37
If I can talk about growing up, Hamdullah, I had hosseini, I had
42:44
parents who kept us within Islamic environments and things
42:47
like that. But today that's difficult and
42:50
you're going to school, there's no Islam, OK, you're going to
42:53
work, there's no Islam. You're going on public
42:55
transport, there's no Islam. And you're turning on your TV,
42:58
you're scrolling your phone, hem, no Islam.
43:00
At least these are certain places where you have reminders
43:03
to your faith, where you have answers to the questions that
43:06
you have. And it's very critical.
43:08
And the reason why I said, you know, many people ask me this
43:11
question and I say Inshallah, I never give up from Islamic media
43:14
because how much messages come to I remember last year or two
43:19
years ago, season 3, I was on edge having probably knowing I
43:23
didn't. Both had those moments bro.
43:25
Because it's hard work. It's hard work and you have to
43:28
balance your, your home, your. Work right now to your.
43:31
Serving. And it's Wednesday, 1:00 AM
43:33
right now. There you go.
43:35
And I remember saying Mustafa asked me a question and he was
43:38
like I said, are you gonna are you ever going to leave
43:40
Aftermath? And I was like, bro, have you
43:42
just read this comment that came in?
43:43
And I think it's on one of the episodes I was like, someone
43:45
just became Shia in Ohio because of aftermath rib and you want me
43:49
to leave? It ain't happening.
43:51
It's that simple. And if you see the impact is
43:53
happening happening, sorry. Why would you not want to
43:57
support causes like this? Honestly, And I Hamdullah, I
44:01
think I've because I've personally seen it even back in
44:05
the helibi TV, the way we became, for example an out our
44:10
mosque for people who never had the community.
44:13
We became a member for people who never had the pasenia, for
44:15
example. That is something we take for
44:17
granted. You know, there's a friend of
44:19
mine. Yeah.
44:20
Mudge. Mudge.
44:21
Do you remember Ricky? You know, we, there's a brother
44:26
who reached out to me like 10 years ago or something, and he
44:30
would tell me that he found a show we hosted back then.
44:34
I can't remember which show it was, to be honest, but it was a
44:36
show we're doing. And he reached out to me.
44:38
He's like, I'm, I'm not a Muslim, but I wanted to ask you
44:40
a few questions about this and that.
44:42
And he lived in Panama and the brother was probably the same
44:47
age as me. And we became friends.
44:48
And then he converted and changed his name to Haidel.
44:53
He's now been in Hauser for like 6 years, 5-6 years.
44:57
Yeah, bro. And he's in classes with a
45:01
friend of ours, Chef, who's who's been on the podcast and
45:05
he's, I told the Sheikh I was like, do you know how I was
45:08
like, do you know Ricky? Like who's Ricky?
45:09
I was like, hey there. Oh yeah, yeah, The brother I was
45:13
like, I couldn't call on bro, but you hear these stories.
45:15
Yeah, you know, I was telling said I did 2 days ago.
45:18
I was at Majlis and someone respect his sister said I had
45:22
this specific podcast three times because I enjoyed it.
45:26
Or for example, two weeks ago I was at an event and at that
45:29
event we, we did live podcasts there.
45:32
And at that event, the brother said that this is the first time
45:36
in my life I've cried for Imam Hussein al Islam today.
45:40
Like, wow, these kind of things put things into perspective, you
45:43
know, these moments. So always all goes back to the
45:46
course, you know, the Thakalene ultimately.
45:49
And that's what we're trying to do, man, just to stay true to
45:52
that, that instruction and that guidance left behind by the Holy
45:56
Prophet. So Sharla, we can, we can do.
45:59
That said, on a last note, I kind of want to ask you about
46:05
your ambitions, your legacy, specifically speaking, where do
46:12
you see yourself moving forward in the coming years?
46:16
Like do you have aspirations? But more so how would you like
46:21
to be remembered? What you want to be remembered
46:25
by something you've done, something you've you've been a
46:28
part of? And yeah, it's.
46:31
Tough one, my aspirations to make the message of Mark St.
46:37
Alison and reach all corners of the world.
46:39
I think we're not doing enough at the moment and I think
46:42
there's still so much more we could do in Charlotte through
46:44
through the media, like we spoke about.
46:47
And looking back 12 years ago when we first established the
46:51
project in London for Mark St. TV and where we are now, I think
46:55
there's a long way we could go. Like if we achieved what we
46:57
achieved in 10 years in London, imagine the next 50 years, 100
47:01
years, what we could achieve in Charlotte.
47:03
So there are parents of Sahbad Asar Azaman.
47:05
So we hand over everything to him in Sharla for achievements.
47:09
I, I see there's lots more I could achieve to the cause of
47:13
the message of Mum Ali Saddam. We could still change millions
47:17
of lives around the world and what we're doing now is amazing.
47:20
And I, but I think we could still do more in Sharla with few
47:24
guys at top and all, all the, all the people in the media and,
47:27
and these projects in Sharla, what I want to be remembered as
47:31
I, I said, they've gone. I'm a servant of Mark.
47:35
Say I said, that's it. Someone who didn't show any
47:38
shortcomings for the message of Mark saying they said that's it.
47:41
Everything that I see from my father and what he does is
47:45
inspiration for me, because whatever he does for people and
47:48
for communities, it's always in silence.
47:51
And he doesn't tell us. So he doesn't say to us, but I
47:53
find out for other people what he does.
47:55
And inshallah, that's something we could learn and carry on
47:59
doing is serve our communities around the world in silence.
48:04
And, and, and they always say you, you, you achieve more
48:08
silence for inshallah. Who could?
48:10
The chief. Charlotte, I really say
48:12
beautiful words. You, You and your brother.
48:14
I think your two men worth 200. I'm not even exaggerating.
48:18
It's only the world knew what the both of you have done.
48:22
Always the parents, like all of you.
48:24
Like I said, God bless the sort of His Father.
48:27
Like your respected father. I'm sure everything we learn and
48:30
we do is from our Father's. Absolutely.
48:32
Of our families, our elders, parents Sha Allah gives them
48:36
long lives and and blesses their souls if they're no longer with
48:39
us and I encourage everyone at home to to support the work so
48:44
much of us doing support the channel and also be able to
48:46
support general causes within the community which needs
48:51
attention. Of course all our charities, our
48:54
organizations right now that are in need of support but also
48:58
share feedback. I'm sure seeing one of our like
49:02
us is always open to suggestions for topics, for ideas, for
49:06
volunteers because there's so many ways to get involved.
49:10
Is there any like tips or suggestions you'd have someone
49:13
if someone's to break into this field, get involved in Shia
49:16
media or Islamic media? Any tips you could give them?
49:21
Reach out, there's a lot of people that are looking like
49:25
your centres. Stuff with your centres, stuff
49:28
with your own community. Then you're reached each other
49:32
other avenues for each other. Thanks.
49:35
Dad. No, I I think you've you've said
49:38
it's so beautiful. I just want.
49:40
To be thank you. I've been talking to me.
49:41
I'm not just saying what I'm joking.
49:43
You say you're beautiful, he said.
49:45
Yeah, he smashed it. One of you remembered us.
49:48
And. Servant, that's long sit.
49:51
And that's what we all want. You know, you know, there's that
49:53
Haditha middle what we need in a Salaam where he says I'm my, I
49:57
am more known in the heavens than I am on the earth.
50:00
Like that is how we aspire to be in Shah Allah.
50:04
It doesn't matter how our legacy is in this world.
50:06
Who cares how many shahada have come and left in this world?
50:09
There are so many names are just missing, never known to be alive
50:14
or or have become Shaheed. No one knows what their legacy
50:17
became, but ultimately they're the status of certain mutaqeen
50:22
who reach a that level is they're known by the angels.
50:26
You know, this is what we aspired for.
50:28
In Charlotte, in Charlotte just I just had something in my mind.
50:31
I was like a person like say whatever, like inshallah, a very
50:36
long life, Inshallah. Not just serving about Abdullah,
50:39
but raising a generation that will serve and continue to serve
50:42
and inspire others Inshallah. But say mortal is the type of
50:45
guy long way you live in Charlotte.
50:47
Yeah. Maybe say that.
50:48
And there's Raven Hall dimensions.
50:50
In Charlotte. In general.
50:52
In general in. To that.
50:55
To that and Charlotte, there's so much and so many things we
50:58
learned from you, not just from you, from your brother and your
51:00
father. May Allah BBC thank you for
51:03
having me. It was lovely speaking to you
51:05
guys. Beautiful person is different to
51:07
you guys outside the podcast. Have you had in the laughs And
51:10
Charlotte? You guys continue what you do
51:12
and inshallah most of everyone. Likewise.
51:15
By the way, if you know you know there's one member of our team.
51:19
He really needs your daughter right now.
51:22
Please remember him so most about Hosseini.
51:24
He's he has we pray in Charlotte a lot, completes the second-half
51:29
of his Dean a lot. Here I mean.
51:31
So if you. If he completes the second-half,
51:33
he's not going to have time to come here anymore, La, La, la.
51:36
That's true. Yeah, Charlotte, someone who
51:38
allows. You guys are here after 10 years
51:40
of marriage, not the first year they'll take a pause for a
51:43
couple. Yeah.
51:43
Charlotte. Charlotte.
51:44
Pray for him, pray for him. All the unmarried get married.
51:47
I don't know how you guys did, how your wives, you guys.
51:51
Have the Mugler bro wait till they sleep at the weekend.
51:54
You know to to be honest, shower to them.
51:56
Yeah, shower for the. Patients they.
51:57
Have VP as well. The patients, I think I always
52:00
tell my probably most of my thought was to her.
52:03
I'm more. For some SO patient.
52:05
On how wives our kids. All the travel, more work we do
52:08
in Shalla. You know, I felt so bad today I
52:12
was leaving the house. Usually I don't like to film
52:15
early. Today I left the house before my
52:16
kids slept and it broke my heart.
52:19
How about where you going? I'm going to studio.
52:21
Oh, OK. Do you know what I mean?
52:24
It's that feeling is like. It's hard.
52:27
I tried to wake up in the mornings before my door wakes
52:29
up, so I don't see that. No way.
52:31
Yeah, even I don't mean work ID. But I know.
52:33
Voila, I know. In Charlotte, they grew up to be
52:35
like us in Charlotte. Charlotte, pray.
52:37
Charlotte they learn, they Charlotte, they see us, and they
52:40
get inspired by the work that we do the same way.
52:44
You know, just a quick note, I when I first had my daughter
52:47
Elua Fatima, I remember I was watching a video for speaker.
52:51
He was like, whenever you pray, show some emotion in front of
52:54
your kids. So they know how attached you
52:56
are to to a loss of family to island, to always plead to a
53:00
loss of panel to island. So they on Subhanallah, my
53:02
daughter's two now whenever she prays, I see her, she's at
53:05
kitchen train quench and you're a lot lesser.
53:08
That's fair. This is our 'cause we we love
53:11
Mama. Same for our parents, because of
53:14
of their weeping and their and their mourning sons and Shallah.
53:17
I love Protector and Shallah. I think I dragged on too much.
53:20
No, no, no. You've opened the kind of worms
53:22
I want to continue. You can see that timer flashing.
53:26
Guys, Salah, we will see you next week in these coming days
53:29
gone. Sorry, no, I was just, I thought
53:31
you were going to say my Salaam, but I was going to talk about
53:34
the water campaign. We still have a few days before
53:37
the day of Arbine. So if you are walking or if
53:40
you're not walking, if you're at home in London, Canada,
53:42
Vancouver, wherever you are watching or listening from
53:44
around the world, visit aftermathlab.com/water and
53:48
quench the thirst of the Zawar of Abdullah Hussain Alayhi
53:52
Salaam. And whilst you're on that
53:53
website, hit pause and then change the domain forward slash
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yah Hussain and join the campaign and become a partner to
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support after Madrab and the work we do.
54:02
Be in the love back to you. Happy happy. 60 cups of water
54:06
for $1.00. That's less than 1 LB.
54:08
I can't understand it. Your people are walking in the
54:10
heater. Mama Hussein who died thirsty on
54:13
the day of 60 cups of water for one pound, $1.00, Not even a
54:18
pound. What a bargain, Subhanallah,
54:20
honestly. So go guys, goes and support.
54:22
There's nothing in it for us. Honestly.
54:24
This is all going to them. They're still in need and
54:26
they'll still be able to reach the the the money will still be
54:29
used for this purpose and share Allah even though we're
54:32
approaching the date. So yeah, go and check out guys.
54:34
We will be back next week. Make sure to like, comment,
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54:39
So what happened to Lahi?