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NBA DFS Process | DraftKings & FanDuel Picks, Plays & Slate Breakdown | Wednesday, 02/04/26 · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all system's gone clear, you lift.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on? Everybody?
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Wednesday edition of the NBA Show.
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  Speaker 3: Got my guy Matt here. Matt, I'll bring you in
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  Speaker 3: right away. Give me your your quick overview of the
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  Speaker 3: trades have gone down so far. If you want to
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  Speaker 3: wait for the Cleveland stuff when we get to that game,
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  Speaker 3: I think that'd be smart. But what's your initial thoughts
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  Speaker 3: on all the trades I've been going down so far?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, my first thought is it's always just fun, man,
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  Speaker 4: when you see moves like this. Trades are always a
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  Speaker 4: really fun part of pro sports, especially the NBA. So
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  Speaker 4: a bunch of big moves. The ad to Washington is
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  Speaker 4: really interesting. But man, they got a nice core like
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  Speaker 4: Ad and Trey and then like the three young guys
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  Speaker 4: with Trey Johnson, Sar and Keyshawn George. Like I like
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  Speaker 4: that squad. Potentially they could be a problem next year
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  Speaker 4: in the East. I think there's gonna be more moves
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  Speaker 4: to be had. I really thought Cleveland was gonna be
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  Speaker 4: in on AD. Obviously they made the Harden move already,
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  Speaker 4: which we'll talk about when we get to that game.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's just exciting, as I was telling you before,
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  Speaker 4: Like for me, and this really hits home because I'm
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  Speaker 4: a huge Guardians fan, So anyone who follows baseball knows
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  Speaker 4: that the Guardians are really good every year, but never
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  Speaker 4: do anything to get better. So I always like it
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  Speaker 4: when teams make moves to try to get better, even
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  Speaker 4: if it's not the perfect move. Like the Jazz, they're
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  Speaker 4: not doing anything this year. They did have to go
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  Speaker 4: get Jaron Jackson, but they identified him as a guy
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  Speaker 4: that can really be a huge part of their future.
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  Speaker 4: They went out and made that move, and now they're
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  Speaker 4: going to be most likely a lot better next year
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  Speaker 4: and going forward. So that's kind of my overall take
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  Speaker 4: on it. I like seeing teams like the Jazz and
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  Speaker 4: the Wizards make moves to be better, if not this year,
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  Speaker 4: next year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I agree with that. It's definitely interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Trade, I think is the best way to put it
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  Speaker 3: for Washington because we all know how good Ad is
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  Speaker 3: when he plays.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a matter of health.
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  Speaker 3: But if you get a fully healthy team like Washington,
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  Speaker 3: they kept all their main guys Keishawn George, Is there
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  Speaker 3: a trade?
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  Speaker 2: Johnson?
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  Speaker 4: Cool?
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  Speaker 3: Bali sar like they kept their main Horror and then
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  Speaker 3: just added guys that can actually impact when we get, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, deeper down the line in games that actually matter.
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  Speaker 2: So I think interesting trade.
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  Speaker 3: If they can make the workout of all the guys
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  Speaker 3: can stay healthy, I think they'll definitely be a team
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  Speaker 3: that could compete next year. I don't know how how
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  Speaker 3: deep they can make it, but it's not like the
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  Speaker 3: East is great. You know, there's like three to four
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  Speaker 3: teams that are really good and then a pretty big
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  Speaker 3: drop off. So they'll definitely be in the mix. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: all around, been a very entertaining trade deadline so far.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely not done. A couple other big names gonna go.
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  Speaker 3: Just saw your Calves were interested in cam Thomas. Just
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  Speaker 3: saw that right before we came on here, so that'll
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  Speaker 3: be I think that'd be a pretty good piece of ad.
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  Speaker 2: They looked like they got a lot better.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, we'll obviously talk more in depth about the
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  Speaker 3: Calves and the trades they made when we get there.
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  Speaker 3: So it's up to people in chat before we start
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  Speaker 3: breaking down the games. Got a guy Jason Turner, Para
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  Speaker 3: Bay locked in, Ricky Rose, Jason Lesbader got a Super
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  Speaker 3: Bowl ticket. Last night's shout out to you put me
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  Speaker 3: in coaches here, lsu H Train, Gregory Phoenix, Reeves got
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  Speaker 3: a Wizards fan to here, Marquee, Juice, Deacon n y Steegle,
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  Speaker 3: Steven and Luis and William all right, Uh.
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  Speaker 4: I was just seeing someone in chat, Steven Leewitz talk
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  Speaker 4: about and I was thinking about this the MAVs, like, man,
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  Speaker 4: they are in shambles, like but that is they had
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  Speaker 4: to get off a d now, so like, I don't
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  Speaker 4: blame them. The return obviously wasn't great. Like for them,
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  Speaker 4: they had to just get rid of the ad. It
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  Speaker 4: didn't matter the return. They had to just kind of
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  Speaker 4: get out from underneath this whole saga and get picks
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  Speaker 4: and stuff to build around Cooper flag. But what an
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  Speaker 4: embarrassment to deal Luca for what And they ended up dealing.
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  Speaker 3: Him for Yeah, I was joking in discord, but like
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  Speaker 3: if that trade happened in real time, what they ended
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  Speaker 3: up getting for Luca, that would have been vetoed. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's just such a bad call for what they got.
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  Speaker 3: I get it, you got first round picks over the
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  Speaker 3: next few seasons, but you traded arguably top two top
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  Speaker 3: three player in the NBA for a bunch of role
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  Speaker 3: players essentially. But all right, before we break down the slate,
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  Speaker 3: give me your quick overview. This is obviously a similar
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  Speaker 3: slate to last night in the sense that we have
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  Speaker 3: a ton of value coming from one team, but different
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  Speaker 3: in the sense that okay See is not going up
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  Speaker 3: against Utah Jazz to go to against the Spurs, so
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of a different scenario. But you obviously
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  Speaker 3: going to get a ton of OKAC guys, definitely get
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  Speaker 3: it some. Memphis a lot of value here and potentially
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  Speaker 3: even more opening up if some trades happen, Like there's
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  Speaker 3: some trades potentially going down in Minnesota and Toronto.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys linked to those two teams.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, breakdown, how are you doing the slate?
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  Speaker 3: Just from a macro perspective, real quick.
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  Speaker 4: I think he broke it down pretty well. They're talking
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  Speaker 4: about OKAC and Memphis. Those are the two main teams. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: OKAC is like the Indiana squad from last night. Big
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  Speaker 4: difference is, like you said, the matchup. Also, they've got
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  Speaker 4: guys that are priced up a little bit. Indiana had
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  Speaker 4: a couple guys, but really only Jaris Walker, so price
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  Speaker 4: tags are a little bit different, and then the main
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  Speaker 4: difference is it's not the first game on the slate,
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  Speaker 4: so we'll have some time to adjust if we get
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  Speaker 4: other news. It does seem like a slate unlike last night,
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  Speaker 4: where a lot of the good plays are later, So
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of a different twist there. But I
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  Speaker 4: think the main theme is Okay, see what do you
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  Speaker 4: do with OKAC? How much Oka CD you play? Who
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  Speaker 4: on OKCE do you play? So they do look pretty
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  Speaker 4: similar to Indiana last night.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely have some thoughts on the groups when
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  Speaker 3: we get to that game, but obviously it's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: a situation where you have for sure one, but I
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  Speaker 3: would say a minimum to potentially even three.
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  Speaker 2: Okay see guys tonight.
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  Speaker 3: But all right, yeah, with that being said, we'll jump
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  Speaker 3: into the first game here, Denver Nuggets at New York Knicks.
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  Speaker 2: This is a back to back for both teams.
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  Speaker 3: Nuggets were in a pretty competitive game against Detroit last night,
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  Speaker 3: so that their guys played four minutes, but the Knicks
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  Speaker 3: got another win. That's seven in a row for them
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  Speaker 3: and a pretty easy win for them. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: anybody played more than like thirty one minutes. Other starters
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Brunson was up there. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 3: what hard og McHale ended up at, but these guys
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  Speaker 3: should be pretty well rested and playing gray basketball right now.
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  Speaker 2: Once seven straight games.
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  Speaker 3: They are first in the NBA in a point differential
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  Speaker 3: plus twenty four points over their last seven games. So
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  Speaker 3: just cruising to some of these wins, I believe they're
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  Speaker 3: the best defense and second best offense over that stretch.
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  Speaker 3: And then the Nuggets kind of up and down sixteenth
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  Speaker 3: in or eleventh and offense sixteenth in defense, but getting healthier.
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  Speaker 3: Yokich obviously gonna help on both ends of the court,
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  Speaker 3: and then Christian Brown getting healthier. It looks like they'll
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  Speaker 3: be getting Kim Johnson back pretty soon as well. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this game, I think it's probably better for viewing purposes.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's definitely obviously star power on both sides.
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  Speaker 3: You have two star centers and two star point guards
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  Speaker 3: that you could definitely consider tonight. But how are you
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  Speaker 3: comparing these guys to some guys that we have later
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  Speaker 3: on the slate. Is there anything that's really sticking out
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  Speaker 3: to you?
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  Speaker 4: So for me, there's not, But I will say, like
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  Speaker 4: these guys were definitely in consideration. For me, I put
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  Speaker 4: out the slate plan right before the show, and I
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  Speaker 4: caught a little bit of slack in the discord for
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  Speaker 4: not having some Knicks guys on there, and I get it, like,
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  Speaker 4: especially with Heart questionable. If he's out, the Knixt look
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  Speaker 4: a lot better. I still don't think these guys are
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  Speaker 4: must plays. I think Kat looks good at eighty three hundred,
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  Speaker 4: you look better last night against the Wizard, and I
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  Speaker 4: always like him against inferior opponents, but he's still really
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  Speaker 4: cheap for his upside. Bridges and Og become in play
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  Speaker 4: for sure if Heart is out, but I still don't
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  Speaker 4: think either of them or anyone on the Knicks is
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  Speaker 4: a must play. And if Heart is in, I'm unlikely
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  Speaker 4: personally to get to any Knicks. I'm playing three lineups tonight,
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  Speaker 4: So the Knicks are fine plays by me tonight, but
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  Speaker 4: not guys that I'm like prioritizing at all. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if there's anyone that you feel like you need
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  Speaker 4: to have, but for me, these guys are all just
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  Speaker 4: in play.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 3: I think Hard needs to be out to really make
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  Speaker 3: these guys more interesting. It feels like we've been kind
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  Speaker 3: of playing cat for like the hypothetical upside. Recently, there
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  Speaker 3: hasn't been like the perfect situation for him where he's
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  Speaker 3: had some really good matchups but then the blowouts hurt him,
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  Speaker 3: and now tonight is not necessarily a great matchup a
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  Speaker 3: lot of foul risks guarding Jokics. I don't think that
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  Speaker 3: he's a guy that I'm really running out of the
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  Speaker 3: way to play, because I think that there are probably
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  Speaker 3: better spend ups and probably some better center options later
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  Speaker 3: in the slate. I think it's kind of better for
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  Speaker 3: Bronson here too. I'm not really too worried about the
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  Speaker 3: Peyton Watson or Christian Brown matchup, but the same thing
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  Speaker 3: for him. I think there's gonna be better guard options
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  Speaker 3: than him there, and then kind of og Bridges and
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  Speaker 3: hard if they're all in or if Hart is in
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  Speaker 3: or all just like last Man in type of plays,
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  Speaker 3: I would have a little bit more interest in Mitch
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  Speaker 3: Robinson if Hart does miss, because I think there would
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  Speaker 3: be a better chance that they go double big, and
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  Speaker 3: obviously I think he matches up much better defensively against
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  Speaker 3: Jokic than Kat does. I don't think they really want
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  Speaker 3: Kat guarding Jokic as much as they can, but it'll
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  Speaker 3: also be a little bit of og on on Jokic.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that Mitch rob just kind of matches
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  Speaker 3: up a little bit better than either of those guys.
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  Speaker 3: So I would have interest in him as anything as
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  Speaker 3: like a like a pivot off of some of the
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  Speaker 3: okc stuff later on.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't think anything is really a standout.
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  Speaker 3: And even on the Denver side, like, I'm not too
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  Speaker 3: sure I want to play Yokich on a back to back,
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  Speaker 3: potentially still limited. Murray I think has a better match
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  Speaker 3: than Yokic too. Pick and roll defense has been mainly
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  Speaker 3: the area of weakness for the Knicks as of late,
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  Speaker 3: been getting better just overall defensively. But yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 3: really see anything. I'm really running out of my way
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  Speaker 3: to play here on either side.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the only thing with the Okich is that we
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  Speaker 4: have a lot of value, and if we get more,
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  Speaker 4: there just aren't a ton of spend ups. So I'm
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  Speaker 4: with you, like, he's not a priority for me, but
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  Speaker 4: you could always do worse than like playing a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of value and Jokic. You know, I don't love it
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  Speaker 4: on the back to back, but he did play thirty
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  Speaker 4: three minutes last night. If he's in, like, you're not
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  Speaker 4: going to get the full full Jokic run yet, but
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  Speaker 4: he's trending up and he would at least be in play.
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  Speaker 4: That's how I look at him.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it did just receive some more value right now
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  Speaker 3: because if each of Zubac is out tonight, Throe to
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  Speaker 3: personal reasons, Okay, so that's uh, we'll kind of be
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  Speaker 3: reacting down one on the fly, but it will jump
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  Speaker 3: into the next game here in Minnesota, Toronto feels like
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  Speaker 3: a game that's gonna be more of a defensive battle,
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  Speaker 3: not I mean, the team total for both teams are
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  Speaker 3: pretty solid. I think it's a higher over under than
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  Speaker 3: most on the slates, So it's Vegas has given them
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  Speaker 3: some credit here, but generally two teams that place pretty
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  Speaker 3: solid defensively.
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  Speaker 2: Main area of weakness for the Wolves is.
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  Speaker 3: Their pick and roll defense, getting killed against pick and
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  Speaker 3: roll heavy offensive players this season, but the Raptors aren't
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  Speaker 3: really running a ton of that this year, so they
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't have to worry about that too much. And then
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  Speaker 3: the Raptors been a really good at keeping teams in
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  Speaker 3: the half court. One of the best transition defense in
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  Speaker 3: the league. I forgot what the stat was, but I
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  Speaker 3: saw recently at the Raptors have been pretty bad against
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  Speaker 3: teams that are like playoff contending teams, like teams with
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  Speaker 3: the above five hundred record. So I think that Minnesota
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  Speaker 3: is definitely should be favored here, even on the road.
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  Speaker 2: But we do have to.
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  Speaker 3: Note that a Randall are questionable, and like I said
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  Speaker 3: at the top, some of these guys have been linked
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  Speaker 3: to some trade rumors, guys like Jada McDaniels, juwis random
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  Speaker 3: and even NASERI they said that they're shopping him.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit. So what do you think about in
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  Speaker 2: this game.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody's really projecting us like a great value, but that
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  Speaker 3: could change if we do get the trade news.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, trade news or injury news with one of Aunt
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  Speaker 4: or Randall being out like changes the complexion of the slate,
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  Speaker 4: and certainly Minnesota presuming those guys are in like a
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  Speaker 4: lot of this slate is the really good value we
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  Speaker 4: have and then like big star hunting, so this game,
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  Speaker 4: like I don't really have any interest in the value
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  Speaker 4: pieces from either side. I think that the Scotty barnes
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  Speaker 4: ants of the world are in play because those guys
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  Speaker 4: are never out of play, but I just think there's
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  Speaker 4: better options. So for me, three lineups, unlikely I get
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  Speaker 4: to anything from this game if everyone's in outside of
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  Speaker 4: like maybe an Ant or a Barnes, but like probably not.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds like the slate is gonna be starting at eight
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  Speaker 3: pm Eastern for you tonight then mm hmm, yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: think I generally agree with you. I'll talk about it
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  Speaker 3: more from like an MME standpoint. I think Ant is
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  Speaker 3: a guy to sprinkling, but it's really just we have
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  Speaker 3: so much value that he's going to naturally end up
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  Speaker 3: in some lineups. Should also note that it's a new
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  Speaker 3: injury for and he's been dealing with that foot injury
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  Speaker 3: all year long. This is an elbow injury they picked
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  Speaker 3: up in the last game. So if he's out, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we got to go right back to Bones and he
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  Speaker 3: would look honestly really good because now you have no
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  Speaker 3: Mike Conley that's taken away minutes from him. It's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be him and Rob Dillingham, and Chris Finch hates Rob Dillingham,
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  Speaker 3: and he's also been linked to some trade stuff, so
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  Speaker 3: I think that they'll probably just run Bones out there
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  Speaker 3: for a ton obviously, that would improve Randall, Rudy Nas, Dante, Jayden.
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  Speaker 3: If all those guys are in no trades happened in it,
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  Speaker 3: we're to be out. So it's really just kind of
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  Speaker 3: waiting for your injuries here. I should note that the
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  Speaker 3: matchup is decent.
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  Speaker 2: For the three point shooters.
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  Speaker 3: Raptors are like bottom eight ish and defensive three point
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  Speaker 3: volume this season. Jada McDaniels is shooting the lights out
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  Speaker 3: right now from three sixty five percent over his last
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  Speaker 3: five games. Dante's at fifty one percent is forty one
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  Speaker 3: and a half percent, So these guys have all been
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  Speaker 3: shooting it really well for the Raptors. I like the
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  Speaker 3: matchup for Emmanuel Quickly because he's their main pick and
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  Speaker 3: roll guy. Gobert plays a lot of drop coverage. I
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  Speaker 3: think that Quickly does set up pretty well here. But
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  Speaker 3: he's seven point two k, so it's not a cheap
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  Speaker 3: price like for him, and what is not really like
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  Speaker 3: a great matchup on paper. And then Argie Barrett is
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  Speaker 3: probably the best play on the Raptors just because he's
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  Speaker 3: so cheap, all right.
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  Speaker 4: That makes sense. I wanted to ask you though, This
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  Speaker 4: brings up a good talking point when you mentioned like McDaniels,
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  Speaker 4: like during this time of year and really only like
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  Speaker 4: today yesterday, I guess. But today is the biggest day
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  Speaker 4: because the trade deadlines tomorrow, so by the slate locks
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  Speaker 4: will know. But for tonight I guess really only the
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  Speaker 4: guys being in trade rumors. Does that affect like how
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  Speaker 4: you play them, like as a multi enter guy, because
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  Speaker 4: for me it doesn't really. But I will say, like
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  Speaker 4: trades during games happen. So if it's like a tiebreaker
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  Speaker 4: and it's like McDaniels or someone else that's not really
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  Speaker 4: mentioned at all and rumors and that won't be traded,
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  Speaker 4: I might lean towards that other guy that said there's
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  Speaker 4: so much noise in all this and guys can be
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  Speaker 4: traded that you don't hear about. I really don't look
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  Speaker 4: too much into it, how about you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with what you said. I think it's
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  Speaker 3: more of like a tiebreaker thing. It's tough to out
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  Speaker 3: for that when building one hundred and fifty lineups. I
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  Speaker 3: think you just kind of played straight up. But for
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  Speaker 3: like single untry stuff, it would be be the tiebreaker,
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  Speaker 3: like if somebody is.
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  Speaker 2: Not involved, then you just probably go with that side, But.
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  Speaker 3: It also seems a little bit less likely that Minnesota
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  Speaker 3: makes moves just because they have a lot to do
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: if they wanted to really get Yannis.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: So I don't really.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: It just seems like kind of everybody's expecting Giannis to
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: stay with the Bucks throughout the trade deadline.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it does seem like a pipe game for
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: them to get him right now. Just wanted to get
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: your take on that.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, next game.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Two teams that are looking to tank here, really bad
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: basketball teams. But the Pelicans have quietly been playing pretty
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: good defense as of laid their twelfth over the last
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: two weeks, but twenty third in offense. The Bucks are
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: just getting killed right now. Had a pretty good game
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: last night against Chicago, but Chicago was extremely shorthanded. The
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Bucks are bottom five in defense over the last two weeks,
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: nineteenth in offense. So I think there's a little bit
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: of fantasy appeal here. It does hurt the upside for
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Milwaukee guys. For one, the price is getting continued to
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: being pushed up. But KMPJ is back tonight. Ken forda junior,
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: will be back, and we've seen him really eat into
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Ryan Rawlins and Kyle Kuzma's role in upside, so that
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: makes it a little bit tougher. And I think Myles
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Turner is going to get a lot of ownership here
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: because people love picking on the Pelicans with opposing centers,
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: but it's a different archetype of center that I think.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: I just don't really think that Miles Turner is the
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: type of guy that really gets it done against the Pelicans.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: I want guys that are, you know, your prototypical big man,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: like a like a Joe val Jokic, you know Zubak.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: The guys a gonna be scoring around the basket. Miles
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Turner is a little too comfortable staying around the three
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: point line. He has been rebound the ball a lot
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: better with Nobobby Fortis, I think that he could. He's
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: probably getting it like close to double double and the
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: matchup is pretty good for three point shooters, so if
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: he gets hot, I think there is upside for him.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: He's also the cheapest of the guys that you want
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: to play for Milwaukee, so I would probably still have
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: him ranked above everybody else. But nothing really that I
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: love on Milwaukee here. I think Pete Nantz is kind
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: of an topic because they've been trying to get him
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: more minutes, and they actually run some offense through him,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: so he could be used as a pivot off the okay,
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: see guys, but yeah, talking through the Pelicans pretty good
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: spot for them against the struggling Bucks defense.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so, first off, I'm with you. I'm Milwaukee, Like,
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: I'm glad that KBJ is back because I really didn't
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: want to play these guys anyways. Now he's back, and
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: with the price tags where they are, like it makes
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: them all not priority plays. Kuzma and Miles Turner would
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: be my favor two. I don't want to play Chalky
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Kuzma or Chocky Turner though, so I probably will try
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: to avoid that. But to your point, they are good plays.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: I do think this game, to your original point, has
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: a lot of fantasy people just in general Milwaukee as
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: detractors their price tags and KBJ being back, but it
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: still is a good game. From the New Orleans side,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: I think my favorite piece is Trey Murphy. Just a
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: solid tag for him. I think he's got a nice
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: floor ceiling combination in this matchup, gonna be owned, but
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: like not crazy owned. The fact that he's point guard
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: own though, is really throwing me off. So that's bizarre,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: but is what it is. So everyone's dealing with that.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: That makes him a little bit less of a good play,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: but still rocks out at seventy eight hundred, just more
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: opportunity cost. I guess I think Zion at eighty one hundred, like,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: I'm okay with him, he hasn't really shown it much
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: at this tag recently, so I think he's a fine play,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: but I'm not sure of his ceiling right now. Sadie
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Bay similar sixty five hundred. Murphy's my favorite piece. I
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: guess New Orleans kind of looks like Milwaukee to me
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: where from a thirty thousand foot view, I like this game,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: but I'm just not sure with how the price tags
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: are that there's anyone outside of I guess Murphy who's
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: like an ultimately a priority for me.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree with you there. I think it's
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: probably Murphy and Bay because they do match up pretty
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: well here.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Milwaukee's been giving up a ton of threes as of late.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: It is really weird that Murphy's got point guard only
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: eligibility now because he's not really even like it's been
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Zion that's been listed as a point guard in the
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: story lineup, so it's kind of odd that they would
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: do that. But his role has actually increased over the
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: last five games, just shooting the ball terribly twenty one
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: percent from three thirty nine percent true shooting, but he's
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: been on ball in his usage is increasing over the
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: last five games. So if he puts together like the
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: performance he has, hypothetically like really really big upside, it's
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: kind of similar to like the Donovan Mitchell stuff where
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: he's had like a really big role, but I hadn't
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: put together a complete game outside of a few games,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: So I think Murphy is kind of right there, like
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: he could really smash in a big way here if
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: he puts it all together.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with that. I was gonna say, like, from
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: my perspective, again, it's so much different from multi entered,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: from like a guy who plays one fifty like yourself,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Like Trey Murphy is the only guy I can think
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: of from this game. Not to say that the other
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: guys aren't in play certainly, or that I couldn't play
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: any of them, but like as priority plays, when you
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: look at this slate from like an outside lens, you've
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: got Okay, see, you've got the two Boston guys with
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Jalen Brown out, and then you've got the Clippers who
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: all look like better plays than everyone else from this
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: game outside of maybe Murphy. So again, and that doesn't
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: mean I won't play guys from this game or I
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: couldn't outscore those other plays, but those other players are
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: going to project.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Better, Yeah, for sure. I also have a little bit
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: of interest in Derek Queen. Missy has been involved in
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: some trade rooms as well. It seems like they're actually
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: like actively shopping in pretty heavily. And we did see
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Queen played thirty one and thirty four minutes in two
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: of his last three games, a guy that has shown
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: really really big upside just kind of tougher now with
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: him being only center eligible.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: But he played nineteen first half minutes. I forgot.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: That might have been on Sunday or Monday, I forget
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: which day it was, but I was looking at the
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: box score and I saw his halftime and he had
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: played nineteen minutes. I just I was like, there's no
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: way he's playing thirty eight minutes to night, but he
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: only finished at thirty one minutes. They're just all over
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: the place with his minutes this season.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Speaking of minutes, can we give a shout out to
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Isaiah Kllier from last night? Last time you saw someone
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: play forty eight last I haven't seen it in front.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I think it was Kyle Lowry, wasn't it was it?
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense. I will say my only slight
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: on Isaiah Kyllier last night, and I'll throw this in
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: real quick. I bet him as my King of the
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Court play last night, and that was never gonna happen. Like,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: he's just not going to be that guy ever. Maybe
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: once in a thousand slates, but whatever. I liked him
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: a lot and he was damn close. But the real
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: reason now I'm tilted is my bet was like twenty
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: bucks to win, like seven hundred and eight hundred bucks
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: forty five plus points, rebounds, assists. He finished with forty four.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Ah damn yeah, just short, but he was damn good.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Ten next thing, a sixty two hundred dollars price tag.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Is rare, yeah for sure? Uh yeah, I mean it wasn't.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: That was inside. I wasn't expecting a full forty eight
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: from him. There was no reporting that he was going
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: to do that, but like there was a really, really
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: good shot that he was playing thirty eight to forty
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: minutes and everywhere around the industry. It's not a slate
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: or like talking smack about any but it does projections.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: But like he was in like the thirty five thirty
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: six minute range. I'm like, there's no way he's playing
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: forty tonight, even said. I mean, it wasn't a hot
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: take by any means, but I was like, there's no
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: way that he's not optimal.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I heard that. I heard that when you
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: said that, because I know someone was like off Kyleier
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: and you were like you were like, am I My
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: call is that he's gonna be optimal tonight. And his
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: first run wasn't even great, but then he just never
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: left the floor, So like, yeah, you can never project
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: someone for forty eight minutes. But it was the perfect storm.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: They had so many guys out but most of all
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: no other point guards, so that was crazy.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Shout out to Isaiah Call. It was a twenty two
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: assist in two turnovers. Just like a really good performance.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: He just like take away the forty eight minutes, like
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: just a good.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Performance all around monster game.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I think that does it for the Pelicans game. A
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: little bit of interest in in herb Jones want to
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: throw him out there as well, but comparing him to
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: the okay, see stuff you're playing, Okay, see over him.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: We'll go to Boston and Houston. Now, obviously the big.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Injury news in this one no Jalen Brown or he's doubtful,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: but obviously doubtful is closer to out. And then Sam
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Hauser is out. Had the trade with Simon's getting moved
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: for Vutsovic, and it sounds like vuk will not be
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: ready for tonight. I think he's listed doubtful. Usually takes
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: a couple of games for the guys to get acclimated,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: so they'll be somewhat shorthanded here. Houston will be getting
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Kevin Durant back, so they're fully healthy outside of the
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Steven Adams stuff. But yeah, low total, but I think
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: that there's definitely a lot to like about the Boston
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: stuff here. Obviously, Paid Pritchard and Derek Whie are gonna
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: have huge roles with no Jaylen Brown. We saw Pritchard
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: go back to the bench role last night. I think
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: he's probably back on the starting line up here, that'll
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: be I'd be shocked if he comes off the bench again,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: but maybe they just want to stagger him and Derek
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: White a little bit more. See you, what do you
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: think about the Boston stuff? Obviously really really good, bad matchup.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Houston's been great on defense, but a lot to like
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: about the role for these guys.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely think Pritchard starts here. They had been
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: starting him when Brown was up before. I know they
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: had been starting him earlier, like when Simon's was there,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: and I just think they have no choice tonight. And
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: how I really look at this game because Booch hasn't played,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: or how I really look at Boston, I should say,
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: because Boch hasn't and suited up for them yet, it's
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: really no Jalen Brown and no Simons. So when you
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: factor that in, you know, the two guards look amazing
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: White and Pritchard. White has mostly been a letdown this year,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: but when Brown is out, he's been good and his
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: usage is just going to be really high. So even
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: in a low total game, I think it's really hard
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: to get away from both of them. Prichard would be
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: the priority. I just think his upside at a cheaper
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: tag is higher, but I like both of them a
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: lot I think those are the two guys I think
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: you can look at like a Shireman or Jordan Walsh
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: as value plays off the OKA see guys, But personally
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: I like the Okay See guys better. So I think
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: if you're doing that, it's really because of ownership. Interesting
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: to hear your take there and to see if there's
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: anyone on Houston you like, because there's one guy like
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: a lot.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, it's presser it over White for me.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: He's just had the much better role in the games
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: that Jaylen Brown has missed the season, averaging forty eight
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: point two DK points per game versus White's thirty seven
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: point four. White's been He's always been a pretty streaky shooter,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: so it's like if you run into a hot shooting game,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I don't I mean, he's got like sixty DK point upside,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's gonna happen against such a good
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: defense like the Rockets. I would just kind of lean
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: with Pritchard here for the role and probably the floor
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: being a little bit better. But I'm gonna have both
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: of my lineups for sure. With you.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: I think Shireman and Jordan Walsh are two guys that
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: will definitely mix in his pivots off the OKAC guys.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna mess around with the way that lineups look.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I guess we'll talk about that when we get to
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: the next game. But I'm not gonna be going too
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: overboard with the OKAC stuff, Like, I don't want four
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: or five of them in my lineup. So I think
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: that I'll probably end up getting overweight on the Shireman's
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: the Walshes to hughgo Gonzalezes.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: In this game.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: But I do think that Baylor Sharman is pretty good.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I think he's earned a decently big role.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I've been playing pretty well, and they moved him the
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: starting lineup over Pritchard last game, so I feel like
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: he's pretty solid. Obviously not a good matchup, but and then.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Jordan Walsh, he's been there's been times this year where
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: he's just really popped off for some big games, and
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: now he's only three point four k and should be starting.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: So I think both those guys are interesting.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: And I have a little bit of interest in the
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: MIAs Kaida and look at Gardza here.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Definitely gonna need a lot of size against Houston. Houston's
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: a really good rebounding team, so gonna want those guys
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: out there for a lot. Five point six k for
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Kida is a pretty good price SAG and this is
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: like his last who were off as I think that
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Booch is gonna be coming off the bench for the Celtics,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: least that's what has been reported. But he's obviously not
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: gonna be playing thirty plus minutes most nights because they're
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: gonna need They're probably gonna be closing with the Booch.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: So I think this might be it might be the
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: last time we see a really big minutes game from
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Nimias Kida.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: I love that for Chicado man Woo stinks like the
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Cavs are gonna eat in the playoffs against Loston if
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: they face So. I just think the Bulls made a
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: really good move getting a young Simon's and that deal
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: go ahead.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Sorry, Oh it sounds like they're gonna they're gonna trade
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: him though, or they're looking to move all these I
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: mean they have, like I'm not kidding, they have like
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: ten guards now the.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Bulls do well. They traded Kobe White today, so but
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: they got back Sexton and.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, are they gonna deal Simons well either? Way,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: we'll see either way, I feel like get whatever they
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: get for Simon's is better than Vooch's. So even if
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: if it's Simons or I don't even know what they're
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: gonna get for Simon's, it's better than Booch.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I saw that.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: That was funny.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: I mean that's she wanted to hear Steph Curry and
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: they should they compared to or Reggie compared.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Her to, and then she tweeted about it last night. It
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: was funny.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, uh yeah, talk to me on Houston.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: You said you were pretty excited about somebody so interested
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: to hear who you're talking about.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I know that Katie is back, but I think
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Sang Gooon is on a mission for being snub from
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: the All Star Game, and I don't hate the spot
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: and what should be a competitive game again, even though
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: it's not a super high total, I think Sengoon is
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: just going to eat inside. And I think that again,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: you see a little bit of pap on his step
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: big All Star snub. I'm not like playing him because
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: of that. But as I mentioned earlier, there's a dearth
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: of high priced players on this late and a lot
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: of value. Segun is falling through the cracks a bit
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: just because KD is back in the matchup, But I
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: like him in this spot. I think he's got massive upside.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: So I'm in on seng Gun here.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Sangun was the guy that was kind of catching my
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: eye on the Houston stuff. Just a really big price
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: tag for everybody else, But like Seng Gun is a
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: guy that can pay off the price egg just because
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: he has such a much bigger involvement of the offense.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: They obviously dominating the rebounding, but they run offense through him,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: so he has the potential assists as well, and then
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: scoring the ball really well over the last few games.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Slight uptick in free throws as well, so he's getting
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: aggressive and getting to the line.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: So I'm with you.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Sangun is the guy that I have the most interesting
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: on Houston tonight. Also a little bit of trade rooms
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: around Tarry Easton, so we'll see what they they do there,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: all right? Ok See in San Antonio, go through the
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: who's out for okay see tonight, No Shay, no Jalen Williams,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: no Chet, no Isaiah Harnstein, no Lou Dort, no Alex Caruso,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: no aj Mitchell. So that leaves them with eight guys tonight,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: which is the magic number for UH for DFS, you're
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: gonna want multiple guys in this game. It's just a
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: matter of who and how you're gonna play them. But
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: we also have some semi big Q tags for the Spurs.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: I wonder how they play this now that PCAs to
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: other guys with Castle and Harper being questionable, seems like
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: a spot that they could give them some rest.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Maybe one of them sits, maybe both.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I don't necessarily think that it does enough for like
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: the value pieces on the Spurs, but that would really
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: solidify big roles for Diaron Fox and for Victor women Yama.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: So talk me through the okay see stuff and how
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: you're seeing it from a priority standpoint.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Who are you looking at playing here?
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think your san Antonio points were really well taken,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Like they don't look as good as okay see, but
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: big question marks in terms of their questionable guys. And
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: if those guys are out, then it makes Fox, who
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: really cheap at seven K, look very good and Wemby,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: who already looks good, is the only other player outside
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: of Jokic over ten K or ten K or higher,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: I should say, so he's gonna be in play just
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: because of that, But you get guys out for the Spurs,
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: he's gonna look better from ok See, it's hard man
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: to distinguish between these guys, only eight of them, so
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: I think they all play. The guys that you don't
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: really want to play are really really cheap, so they're
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: all in play depending on where you look. Chris Youngblood
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: is popping as the highest projected player you know, value
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: play on the slate. Other places don't like him at all.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Guys that consistently look good anywhere no matter where you look.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: J will Jalen Williams, even though he's five K, he
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: looks really good here power forward eligible, which helps Isaiah
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Joe forty six hundred. He looks good. Brandon Carlson thirty
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: five hundred. I don't really want to play him with
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Jalen Williams, but I think he's cheap enough where they
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: could easily both get there. And if it's situation where
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: they're gonna play forty eight minutes, I mean you're hypothetically
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: just spending eighty five hundred on the OKC Center, so
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: you could do worse. Ken Rich Williams forty seven hundred.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: He looks pretty good. I never like spending up on him,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: but hard to argue it here. Brooks Barnheiser thirty one hundred,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: could see him play a bunch here. Not like a
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: great fantasy guy, but thirty one hundred small forward eligible
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: almost always the weakest position. Aaron Wiggans big sticker shock
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: at fifty seven hundred, but man, he could and should
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: and probably will be the league dog for them here.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: So certainly has like forty point DK upside here. I
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: don't expect that, but there's real upside at this tag.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I'm not exactly sure how I'm gonna play, Okay, see
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: yet I really want to hear your take. So what
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: is it?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: So what I'm expecting for the front court guys is
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: a mixture of Jalen Williams, Brandon Carlson Wiggins, Ken Rich,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: and than probably Barnheiser.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I don't really know too much about.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: This Barnheuser because he just hasn't played a ton in
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: the in the NBA, but he's listed as a small
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: forward power forward. But yeah, I think that the rules
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: that I want to say, because I definitely have interested
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: in these guys, But it depends how many okayc guys
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: you're playing. If you're playing four, then it would be
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: a max two of the Jalen, Carlson, and ken Rich
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Williams grouping. If it's three, then I think it's just
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: max one Jalen and Carlson. Yeah, I think that Wiggins
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: is kind of I'm not adding him to any groups
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: because I feel like he's the most safe from a
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: role standpoint and kind of like positional fluidity in terms
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: of how he's actually gonna play in the lineup, Like
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: he can be a guard and a Ford at the
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: same time. So I think that he's pretty safe regardless
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: for the guards.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: It should be.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: So case on Isaiah, Joe young Blood, and then Barnheizer,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: I guess is like kind of in that group, and
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: like three out of the three out of those four
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: guys are going to have to start, I would imagine.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: And then again I would be a max three of
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: those guys if you're playing four, okay, see guys, max two.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: If you're only playing three, okay, see guys. And I
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: think Cason is Kason and Joe probably the best in
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: that grouping, but Wiggins is Wiggins and jay Lynn Williams
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: are the two favorites for me. I just think that
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: those you guys are gonna play a ton and I
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: think that we have seen, we know that their NBA talents.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I think that they're both.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Gonna be be able to produce here. Jayson Williams has
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: been heavily involved in the offense at times, like even
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: a triple double threat we've seen. I think, like last
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: year he might have posted one or two triple doubles.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: But he's a guy that I'm definitely playing a ton of.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Then Aaron Wiggins and then Case and Wallace are my
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: three top guys.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: So hold, let me see.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Like I say, it's Wiggins and jaln as like their
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: own group for me, and then it's gonna be Isaiah,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Joe Wallace and Kenwick Williams in the second tier and
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: then Carlson young Blood and barn Heeiser in the third tier.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Is how I have it?
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it. I guess My only pushback on
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: how you have them is like the guys you like
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: and they're for a good reason. Those are the pricey guys.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: So like there are worlds where, like you know, everyone
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: plays like about the same tonight, and in that case,
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: I want the cheap guys. I'm with you that I
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: think that the ceilings and the roles of Jywell and
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Wiggins are easily the safest, but you're also paying for it.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: So like I'm a little bit torn, not gonna lie.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just wondering, Like I don't think that somebody's
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: gonna have to play like thirty six tonight. I just
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: don't know who exactly that's gonna be. I doubt it
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: would be Cason Wallace, Like he seems like the guy
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: that is most like long term view for OKAC, so
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: I doubt that he's gonna play a ton I could
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: see it being Jaylen.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I can see it being Wiggins.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say Wiggins or jay Lynn.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: I just feel like Jaylen is just so injury prone.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: But I mean, if he plays thirty six minutes, he's
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: gonna smash.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: I feel like thirty two is probably where i'd have
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: him on the low end, But I think that there's
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: a chance for thirty six, just because we saw that
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: they had like they're getting healthier and this is not
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: a game where guys are actually injured, like they're sitting
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: these guys out. I mean, Shaye is injured right now,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: but he'll be back in two weeks. But they just
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: got hard and sand back Chet is healthy. Sounds like
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: jay Len Williams j Doub will be back probably right
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: after the All Star break. So they have more depth
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: in the front court than they do normally.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: And there is like the possibility that like the Barnheiser
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: and Chris Jungblood's of the world, like they're gonna play,
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: but maybe they don't play as much as projected, which
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: means that the guys who are projected to play a
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: ton play even more. So there's certainly that route that
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: it could go. Also, I'm a little bit torn how
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: I want to play it. You're definitely making me lean
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: into like the Jalen and Aaron Wiggins is of the world.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: I guess. The other point is, to a point I've
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: already mentioned a couple of times, there are elite spend
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: up options on this slate, which makes it more palatable
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: to roster fifty seven hundred dollars Wiggins and a five
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: K Jalen Williams, So it makes sense.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if like there's a like there's ways
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: you could play a little bit more aggressively, Like if
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Cason plays twenty six tonight, would young Blood play like
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: twenty eight to thirty? Is that the guy that would
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: eat it to his minutes?
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Right? That's who I think is like the X factor
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: who I think his minutes volatility is massive and I
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: like that. Like slates like this always intrigued me because
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: I feel like one of the biggest edges, especially in
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: the NBA DFS right now, is like getting something like
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: different than what projections are saying because everyone just follows projections.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: The problem is there's a lot of volatility and unknown
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: so Chris Youngbroud could very well be massively underprojected everywhere.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: There's also a chance he's like over projected everywhere right now,
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: even lowly projected. So it's just very volatile. It's hard
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: to know exactly what they're gonna do.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I gotta give him Emmanuel boost for
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: just having such a cool name. Also, yeah, yeah, he
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: hasn't been great in the G League.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at his PERTI per thirty six minute stats
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: fourteen points per game, five point eight rebounds, two point
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: one assists, So it doesn't seem like, like usually.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: You'd have really good numbers in the G League.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: It seems like Barnheiser is a little bit better, but
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: he's only played third minute I think, three games in
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: the G League, so I'm not sure.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: It also happened they got to have a really good
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: G League grasp tail.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean they got a bunch of studs
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: down there for sure. One other thing to note, like
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: why this is not the exact same situation as Indie
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: last night or the Jazz. Even the Spurs are still
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: a really good defense, so like there's a lot of
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: risk for okay, see not even cracking one hundred points,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Like that's definitely in play for them for sure. So
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: that's why I wouldn't like it's not like a automatic
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: must have value played by any means.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: I'm with you. That's like my hesitation. That's spending for
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: the OKAC guys in that scenario. Like it's like it's
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: not that crazy to think that neither Williams or Jalen
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Williams get there, Like if they just cannot do anything,
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: they don't need to do that much to be viable,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: but there are scenarios where they still don't do enough.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like they could be outscored from a points per
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: dollar perspective if they only get like five and a
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: half x their price tech tonight.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: So it almost feels like, do you think that would
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: you do.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Something like correlation wise, like if you're playing both Wiggins
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: and Jaylen Williams, then you're playing Wemby.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: I was just thinking about something like that right now,
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: or also like wanting to play Jalen Williams with Aaron
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Wiggins together, Like yeah, not really wanting to play one
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: of them separate, because I do think to your point,
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: like they go well grouped together. Those are the two
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: main guys in my opinion.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Here probably Like I don't know if you have to
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: set this rule, but it feels like Caseon Wallace is
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: in the same boat as them, Like those three guys
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: are regular rotation pieces. So it feels like if the
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: game is close and they're obviously they obviously still want
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: to win the game, then those will be the three
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: guys they have there in crunch time. I don't think
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: that they're like it's very unlikely that Chris Young, Bludden
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Brooks Bonnheiser are impacted the game enough to where they're
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: the reason that they won.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: I agree with you. The only reason I hesitate to
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: put Case and Loss in the Wiggins Jalen Williams group
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: is because even though I view him as more of
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: a core piece of Oklahoma City's real team, I do
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: think that when they're shorthanded like Wiggins and Jalen Williams
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: are just better offensively than him. So I get it
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: like putting him in that group because I think the
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: minutes will be there. But I do also think like
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: if all those guys played big minutes like it wouldn't
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: the one that wouldn't shock me if he was just
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: okay would be Cason Wallace.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't seem like the guy that's gonna really
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: be feeling of the stats. Shitt. I don't know this
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: changes as much. Your boy Lonzo bald has got traded
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: to my Utah Jazz as we're on the show.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: Wow, interesting, Well I knew they were. Really That's that
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: sets up for an even bigger Calves move because they're
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: trying to get under the separate second apron to make
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: a bigger move. Really interesting. I'm sure Linza will get
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: waived by Utah.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. We got two second round picks. Also,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: so just loading up on the picks again.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: So it's really just get out of that contract.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's probably gonna cover everything we didn't really.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I guess we didn't touch on the Spur side, but
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: it feels kind of straightforward like Wemby is great regardless,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: and I think that I honestly like he's probably my
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: favorite spend up tonight.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: It's really close between.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Him, Spider and Kawhi, especially now that Zubac is out.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: But for Wemby, like this looks like a bad paper
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: if you're looking at you know, defensive rating like DVP
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: stuff and all of that, because the Thunder have been
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: so good with Cheton Hartenstein and Jaylen Williams guarding him.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Now you're going up against Jaylen Williams, who's not even
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: like a true center really, Kenrich Williams undersize for his position,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: and then Brandon Crosson just a not really like a
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: true NBA talent player. So Wemby could He's gonna be
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: going up against some really weak competition tonight. So I
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: could see him even like twenty eight minutes going for
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: sixty five plus.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, honestly the only reason not to like
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Wemby is if you think Thunder just can't do anything
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: and it's to blow out, so other than that, he's
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: gonna smash and man, I would like him and Fox
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: would become like if you get Castle and Harper out,
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: the game all of a sudden becomes tighter. Those guys'
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: roles get bigger, Like I would want Wiggins, Jalen Williams,
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Fox and Wemby And if I was playing one lineup,
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: I'd want those four in it.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you right there. I think that's a
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: good way to play it for sure. Played to be
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: competitive if those guys are out and more trade stuff
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: going down here, Jock Landell, who the Jets just got
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: traded to Atlanta.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: So Utah's being a facilitator and a lot of these moves.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: As they are for the last couple of years. Your
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: facilitator in the Luca trade as well.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you get extra picks. The Cavs were
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: a facilitator in like the big Houston deal where with
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Harden years ago and that child they ended up getting
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Jared Allen.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Oh, interesting, it's a sneaky, sneaky moves being made there
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: for sure, But yeah, it seems like there's gonna be
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: more stuff happening over the next two days. But luckily
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: those teams are not on the slate. I mean, Cavaliers are,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: but Lonzo wasn't really in the rotation. All right, let's
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: jump into Memphis at Sacramento. Memphis should be I mean,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: they're gonna be extremely short handed tonight, mainly in the
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: front court, obviously, trading away Jared Jackson Junior and Jock Landale,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: zach Edy is out and Santi is questionable.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I have a I have thoughts on the Memphis.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Stuff tonight because I see a lot of ownership going
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: to some of these guys. But I want to hear
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: your thoughts first, because this is a pretty good matchup
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: for both these teams. Two really bad defenses. Memphis be
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: getting killed on the boards and the Kings just never
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: really got to go in this season defensively.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: So what are you looking at on the memphiside.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: Memphis looks really really good here. One of my favorite plays,
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: maybe my favorite play on the slate, like ownership considered,
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: is Gigi Jackson. I just think he's gonna get such
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: a massive bump here. Obviously, Memphis is trying to go
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: younger here. He's a guy that whenever he's gotten run,
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: he's produced no jack Landel, no Jared Jackson. Obviously they're
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: shorthanded all over. He's one of my favorite plays on
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: the slate. I really really like him here. I'm taking
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: a stand on Gigi. I like Centric Howard, but man like,
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: I don't love playing him into ownership and he's gonna
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: be really really highly owned. He's too cheap at fifty
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: two hundred for his role, and he's a great plag
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: just on paper, but I don't I'm not that scared
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: of him burning me so like I do think that
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: you can get away from him in tournaments. I think
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: you're also fine playing him in Tournament's a coggan the
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: machine type, really solid floor. I don't think he's got
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: the highest ceiling in the world, but he is cheap
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: and a good matchup. Tiger has been great for me.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: Played him in both slates he's been on, He's been awesome.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know, though, Like, unless we get some assurance
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: that he's gonna be playing more than twenty minutes, I
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: think you're you're fighting with the devil playing him at
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: an even increased price tag at fifty five hundred, only
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: playing twenty minutes. That said, he's a phenomenal producer when
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: he's on the court, so I don't think he's out
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: of play either. I just don't think he's a priority
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: unless we get some assurance, Like if you told me
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: he was gonna play upper twenties, you know, to thirty
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: minutes he was back on like normal run for what
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: they want from him this year, then I'd be really interested.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: But they're not, so I'm not other than that. Like
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Omax thirty six hundred, he's never a guy like I
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: really want to play. But I don't think you are
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: crazy playing him. Obviously. Santi is a big question mark.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: If he is out, I mean, it just makes me
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: like Gigi even more. If he's in, I guess him.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: He's been out for a few games. I'm not necessarily
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: excited about it. But he's got big off side of
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: sixty one hundred. So Memphis is definitely a team I
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: want exposure to. The only guy I can unequivocally say
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: right now I would play if I were playing, one
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: lineup would be Gig. How do you see it?
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really glad you brought up Gig because He's
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: the guy that I had circled here for Memphis as well.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: If they have any depth, that's at the guard spot.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: So like, they have literally no center on the roster
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: that's healthy right now, and they won't even when.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: They get the Jazz guys because they are getting Kyl.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Anderson, Walter Playton Junior, and Taylor Hendrick, so nobody, they're
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: not going to have any centers on the roster basically
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: until Edie comes back. And yeah, this is a youth
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: movement moving forward, so they're probably playing Gigi a good bit.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: I would say, even when the Jazz the Jazz guys
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: do end up playing, they're probably just gonna be moving
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: forward with the young guys.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: So I'm right there with you.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: I think Gigi is the guy I have the most
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: interesting on Memphis, and I definitely.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I'm with you on your Ti Jerome so too.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: So he's been at like two fantasy points per minute,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: which is just not sustainable if you expect him to
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: shoot as well as he did and have the same
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: production at five point five k and twenty minutes, because
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: they're not going to play him a lot moving forward.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: The coach already confirmed that he's gonna be on the
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: twenty minute restriction for a good bit, and they have
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: a ton of guards. So with you, I think that
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Jerome not too He's not out of play just for
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: the off chance that he does perform, like does have
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: the same role in the same production. But you're asking
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: for so much to go right there, go ahead.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: It's just so hard at that tag for him to
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: burn you. Like, he could be a good play at
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: that tag, but it's so hard to see him with
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: a score that you like absolutely need only playing twenty
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: minutes to fifty five hundred.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll just read off because they have this
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: is how many guards they have. They have Jerome, Spencer, Wells, Small,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: KCP and Mayshack. All these guys are gonna see minutes
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: to night. So I'm yeah, if I'm playing multiple Memphis pieces,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a Max two of that group, and
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be Max one of Jerome and Spencer.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Those guys. I don't even know if they overlapped at
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: all last game. I think that they're just competing for
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: the point guard minutes. I feel like Cedric is probably
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: fine to float around. I don't think you have to
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: add him to groups because he's kind of his own,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: his own player, his own position. But I do agree,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: like they're not really looking to play him thirty two
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: plus minutes. He's been in the upper twenties minute range.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: He is hands down the best per minute producer for
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Memphis with all these guys out, so I think that
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: he can get there and it is a really really
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: good price second five point two K. So I'm with you,
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: like I'm I'm a little bit more worried about not
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: playing Cedric Coward than these other guys.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Gigi's my favorite.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: And then if Sti's in, I think that he's pretty
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: pretty solid, Like he's gonna have to play a good
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: bit at center.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: We know that he does have a ton of upside
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: power forward center eligibility is good.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: But if he's out, then it's gonna be it's gonna
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: be O Max and Gigi Jackson playing center for them.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: So it's gonna be really tough to get away from
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: those guys because they'll have to cover all forty eight
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: of the center minutes. I just don't see how they
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: how else they would fill it.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Our projection is really like small as a value too.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're a little bit high on his
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: minutes right now.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but we have him for twenty two. I'm not sure.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Like that's it's a really confusing situation.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: We have not seen this with them, but they have.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: They have quite a bit of depth. At guard said,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be pretty spread out. I just don't know
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: exactly how it's gonna shake out. Should also notice note
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: that this is a I think Jalen Willis is from
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: the Sacramento area.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: He's gonna have a lot of people in attendance. They
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: might just play him a ton because he's another one
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: of those young guys. Yeah. I just saw that Lebron
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: potentially going back to Cleveland in the summertime.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they've been talking about that. I am a lot
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: a lot of noise about that around these parts, a
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: lot of smoke, I should say, and where they're smoke,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: there's usually fire. I think that's at this point likely
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: to happen.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Are you happy about that? Yeah?
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course. I mean, huge Brown fan, always same
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: year as him, So went to a couple as his
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: high school game of his high school game. So always
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: been a huge Bron guy. So I mean he won
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: a title here, the only title we've seen in any
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: sport since I've been alive. So hold, until further notice,
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: go down as the greatest Cleveland athlete ever. If he
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: wants to come back, he is more than welcome to
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: come back.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: I was listening to the Brian Windhorst podcast today before
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: just like kind of going on a walk. Listen to
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: it and also probably the best NBA podcast out there.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: But they were talking about how they think that Donovan
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Mitchell is the second best Cavist player of all time,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: maybe of all time, but like the second most talented.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: But it's so Kyrie. I mean, he's got to be
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: there too.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, people around here would would still say Kyrie
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: overspide it just because of the shot that Kyrie made
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: in the finals and how talented Kyrie is just from
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: like a pound for pound basis, but man like Mitchell
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: is close. Like you can make the argument for me Mitchell. Now,
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: he's led this team to their best regular season ever.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately they weren't able to, you know, go far in
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: the playoffs, at least they haven't been yet. I think
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: that will cement with Mitchell's legacy. We'll see what they
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: can do this year, et cetera.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, hands down, this has been the last
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: few seasons with Donovan Mitchell. Has been their best season
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: since Lebron, So.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: No doubt about it. This is for sure, I mean
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: any and not even since then. It's their best team
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: like ever with asides from when Lebron is here. And
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: they had some really really good teams like before your
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: time when I was really young, like the Mark Price,
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: Brad Doherty, Larry Nance teams, but those teams weren't as
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: good as the team now or that we had last year.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: So hopefully we can do something with it. I was
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: actually it's funny he said that I've been watching like
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: the Tyres Halliburton Lebron interviews when he was talking about
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: the Olympics. I don't know if you've seen any of that. Yeah,
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: And he was talking about the series last year with Cleveland,
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: and man, cannot believe Cleveland lost that game too. They
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: were up nine with like a minute left. Stuff can
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: change in a snap of a finger.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that was one of the coolest runs
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: for Indie last year. And I hurt a lot of
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: a lot of our guys. You're Cleveland playing we have
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: a couple of Knicks fans on the discar as well,
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: but that was almost beat Okac too. Yeah, I mean
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: arguably like they look like they're on the way. Alibert
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: was having a massive game before he or towards Achilles.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we'll see. Man, I'm hype for Lebron to
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: come back just because, yeah, he's not like he's not
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: Lebron of old days from Cleveland, but he can still
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: be a top ten to fifteen player on any given day.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: And if you've got him with Mitchell, Mobley and Harden,
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: you don't need him to be super Bron hardly ever, So.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: It's somebody would have to go then because they couldn't
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: afford to pay for all these guys. So you think
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: it'd be Jared Allen.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it'd be Jared Allen. I think he's
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: like the odd man out for sure in any of
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: these talks. I'm not gonna be surprised if there's a
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: Strew Slash Jared Allen deal like coming up in the
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: near future, and honestly, like they're big fish hunting, I'm
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: not going to be shocked if they end up making
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: a big deal and they have no choice but to
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: throw Jalen Tyson in there, because if they get one
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: of these big guys, they're not doing it without Mobley
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: or Tyson, and Mobley is, for what I've heard, untouchable
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: outside of Yamas talks.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, makes sense. Yeah, you got to keep your keep
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: your core all right. Exciting stuff potentially on the horizon
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: for the Cavs. We'll see them tonight, but we've got
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: the Kings to talk about real quickly. Feels like this
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: will be a pretty short discussion. I don't really think
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: that there's much that stands out. Maybe Malik Monk because
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: he's four point five k has good upside, but I
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: think you need Sabonis to be out to really start
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: to consider these guys. I would have a lot of
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: interest in uh Dylan Cardwell if Sabonis were to be out,
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: because he's just a high energy guy, really good rebounder,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: and the Memphis Grizzlies are gonna have nobody in the
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: front court that could grab these boards. I think that
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: he could be really interesting if Sabonis were to be out,
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: But as it stands right now, Sabonis Westbrook can look
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: like they're gonna play, so King's gonna be probably closer
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: to an X out for me.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. Honestly, I think the guy that I
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: would like kind of taking the same path you are
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: is Raynaw. So I get the card well call because
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: he's got power forward eligibility, But I feel like Raynaw
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: is the guy they really want to see so forty
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: nine hundred, Like, I think he's an intriguing play at
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: not a lot of ownership. If Sibonis is out, if
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: the bonus is in, there's nothing from Sacramento here, especially
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: with Westbrook back. They added DeAndre Hunter. I'm good.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: They may they might start DeAndre Hunter and get a
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: long look at him, but I still think it's gonna
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: be It's not gonna be really smooth right now? Is
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: his first game with them? Yeah, I just I'm kind
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: of off the Kings right now. This is just a
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: bad team all right. Now we get to your Cleveland
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: cavot Leers heading into LA. Obviously, the big news on
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: the trade market was the pig swap or the swap
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: for Darius Garland dun for Mitchell trade so or sorry James.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Harden and Darius Garland. So what are your initial thoughts
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: on that one?
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: As we kind of already talked about the Lebron stuff,
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: how do you feel about them moving forward with all
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: the moves that they've made.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So, Man, it's like bittersweet for me because I
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: was a huge DG fan, like I have been since
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: early on, Like I was really high in the Calves
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: drafting him. He's a phenomenal offensive player. Unfortunately, his timeline
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: just doesn't match with what the Cavs are right now.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: He's frequently hurt. His feet have bothered him massively a
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: bunch over the past couple of seasons, especially in the playoffs.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: And Harden we all know, has his flaws, but he's
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: also got I've loved forever. I was telling you before
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: the show, loved him at Arizona State. Have been a
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: huge fan of him ever since. You can certainly pick
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: your flaws about him, the fact that he leads every
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: team he's on, et cetera, et cetera, but he's chasing
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: that title. Man and Mitchell clearly wanted them to make
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: this move, So I'm excited about it for this year. Certainly,
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: whenever you trade a twenty six year old for a
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: thirty six year old, there's gonna be question marks. But again,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: I don't think the Caves are done yet. I think
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: they're making more moves to really go all in this year,
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: and in a wide open East, they've already moved to
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: be the favorites, and I think that's probably true. They
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: have more talent than any team in the East, even
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: the Knicks, in my opinion. The Celtics when Tatum is healthy,
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: certainly could argue that. But the Calves were awesome last
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: year in the regular season and were favored going into
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: this year. So now getting Hard and I think who
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: is just a different category of player than Garland is
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: right now, I think it bodes well for them this year.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: Hopefully it works out for tonight. It makes for a
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: really interesting Cleveland team because Darland was already out, but
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: they've traded Lonzo Ball and Hard and presumably is not
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: going to play here. So I mentioned it in the
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: discord earlier. I think Dennis Shrewder is really intriguing here.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: I think he's a guy that Calves want to play
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: like a lot of the backup point guard minutes, and
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: I think he's gonna play a bunch here. He's always
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: a guy that can produce when he gets run he's
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: got familiarity with Atkinson, who is on the Atlanta staff
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: when Shruder was drafted. So I think Shrewder is really
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: really sneaky here mentioned like minutes ago or like ten
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: or fifteen minutes ago. I think that slates like this
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: are really intriguing because NBADFS is so based on productions
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: for our projection. I said, say, whenever you get outliers
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: like I think Schroeder might be tonight, who's going to
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: be literally unowned and I think he's really under projected.
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: Minutes twise, what's your take on the trade and then
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: the cast tonight?
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you on the trade. It just
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: seemed like the Garland thing was kind of coming to
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: an end. Regardless, I think I just saw something rich
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Paul as his agent, he said that this is going
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: to be your last season on the Caves before the season,
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: so that's kind of shows you where their head was at.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, I think it makes them better
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: in the short term. Obviously, there's a lot of question
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: marks about just James Harden as a player on teams
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: and like what he does kind of you know, is
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: what is it like as fifth or sixteen in the
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: last few years, so a little bit of question marks there,
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: but he's nearing the end of his career. But he's
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: still playing some good basketball this season, so he's definitely
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: more impactful, also more available. And Dearis Garland is DearS
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: Runs always injured, it seems like. And there was that
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: report that the Cavs front office or like their training
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: stid just said they don't think that he's doing enough
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: to stay healthy, which is not not what you want
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: to hear.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: I saw that report. And the second thing to that point, like,
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: right now, Donovan Mitchell is playing thirty four minutes per game,
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: the most since his like second season in Utah or
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: something like that. That is not sustainable. He was dealing
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: with half injuries in last year's playoffs. Like if nothing else,
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: hardens a guy that can give Mitchell time off during
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: the regular season.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Schroeder too. I mean, you could play him
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: so much more off ball. He's just had such a
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: huge responsibility for the team this season, just with kind
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: of picking up the slack for Mobile and Garland to
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: be honest, but yeah, I think it makes makes a
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: lot of sense, honestly, for this season alone. And I
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: remember that that year with Donovvi Mitchell where he was
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: playing so much and just was asked to do so
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: much on offense because they didn't give him enough secondary options,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Like he was just gas that sometimes in the games. Yeah,
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: I like your getting into the fantasy part of this game.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: I like your call on Schroeder. I do think that
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: he's a little bit under projected minutes wise, and it's
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: also pretty encouraging to hear that he's probably familiar with
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: the offensive schemes that Kenny Atkinson's gonna ask him to play.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: So I think that is an interesting call. Gonna be
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: very motivated. I mean, he was being wasted in Sacramento.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: I still think that he can be an impactful player,
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: So I like that call there. But yeah, I did
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: just see somebody Andrew Martinez asked about Mitchell and Kawhi
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: back and forth. This is kind of where I'm really
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: excited about.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: I think that these are this team. This game could
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: be close.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure exactly how much Zubac has shifted the
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: lines to Cleveland's still favored by just three points, so
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Vegas expected him.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: To be close. I really like that idea.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: I love both these guys tonight as the two of
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: my favorite spand ups along with Wemby.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: If you take out all.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: The guys that the Cavs are dealing with injury and
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: trade wise, I mean, Donald Mitchell's role is insane. Thirty
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: eight percent usage rate with Garland Hunter and Mobiley off
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: the court, one point five to five fantasy points per minute.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Just a really really good production and role for him
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: at even at this price tag, and over the last
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: couple of games, he's had a really big role. We
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: kind of talked about that over the last week or two.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: Definitely think it's worth mentioning Jared Allen as well, though
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: coming off of a career night. I mean, I don't
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: know if he'll ever be able to get close to
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: that again forty seventeen to five and six eighty two
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: point twenty five DK points.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Definitely don't think that the stat line.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Is repeatable, but the role that he had and it
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: has had over the last four games is somewhat Sticky
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: has seen an increase involvement percentage over his last four
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: games from twenty three to thirty one point two percent
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: twenty three percent season average thirty one point two over
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: the last four games, and he's also averaging one point
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: five to one Fantasy points per minute with Hunter, Garland
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: and Mobile off the court this season. I mean that's
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: pretty elite for somebody that's going to be somewhat low
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: owned tonight.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: So any any thoughts on the Mitchell.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: So yeah, man, So first talking about Mitchell, I'm with you,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: like I like Wemby, and I like that game, especially
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: if you get guys out. But I think that Mitchell
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: and Kawhi, especially Kawhi or two of, if not the
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  Speaker 4: two best overall plays on the slate, They're just too
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  Speaker 4: cheap for the roles that they're in. Mitchell is too
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: cheap for Mobley and Garland now Hardened to be out.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Kawhi is too cheap for Harden, now Garland now Zubotch
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  Speaker 4: to be out. My only concern here is the Clippers
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  Speaker 4: are so shorthanded, like maybe Cleveland roles here, but Cleveland
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: on the road they're shorthanded too. I'm with you, I
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: think this game is close and competitive. I think Mitchell
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: and Kawhi is a great starting point for any lineup
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: in any type of format, cash game, single entry, big field,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: whatever it is, starting with Kawhi and Mitchell and then
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: working out working it out from there makes a lot
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  Speaker 4: of sense for me. I like the Allen call. I
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: think he's priced in a spot where he's just gonna
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  Speaker 4: get squeezed out, and that makes sense. But I think
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: the numbers you read off make him a really intriguing
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  Speaker 4: tournament play. It's gonna look even better, much more rebound
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  Speaker 4: equity with Zubach off the floor. So yeah, I think
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  Speaker 4: that makes a lot of sense. I already talked about Shrewder.
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  Speaker 4: It's really Mitchell for me, Kawhi on the other side,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: and then I guess brook Lopez and then your boy
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: is it Niedermeyer? Is that the backup guy?
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  Speaker 2: Fornhauserniederhauser.
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  Speaker 4: I knew it was something like that. What's your take
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: on the Clippers big man situation this evening?
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it'll definitely be brook Lopez starting, but
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: I mean it feels like Niederhauser might match up a
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  Speaker 3: little bit better against dred Allen. Dred Allen's not like
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: he's pretty, like, I don't know, agile for a big man,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: and I think brook Lopez just slow and doesn't really
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  Speaker 3: do much on offens or defense. I will if people
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  Speaker 3: are gonna be running to play Brooklyn because again, like
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: I will just be underweight or just played Niederhouse over him.
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  Speaker 3: I like the okay, see value much better than than
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: brook Lopez too. Like people are chasing the the one
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: game where he went for like he had like like
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: what six or seven threes in that game. Yeah, like
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  Speaker 3: if you think that he's gonna do that, then I'm
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: nier Meyer's animal House.
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  Speaker 2: That's why it sounded familiar. Yeah pretty well right now,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah he is.
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  Speaker 4: He's ownerships teams, so like, yeah, I kind of get
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  Speaker 4: both sides of it because he projects well, but I'm
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: kind of with you, like you're chasing that big upside
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: game that he had one time because he made so
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  Speaker 4: many threes, Like he can just get played off the
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  Speaker 4: floor in so many different scenarios.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I mean give me like John Collins, even
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  Speaker 3: though you know, big price difference.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'd much rather have him. I would much rather
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: have Sanders or Jordan Miller. Sam has been playing a ton,
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  Speaker 2: so this also makes him a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot more interesting with Zubaku because he was the guy
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: that had a little bit of interest in with No Harden.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: They they've been playing him a ton, and he's kind
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: of gamescript proof he'd closed last game in the blowout,
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  Speaker 3: so I like him a good bit. I also mentioned
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: on Kawhi, I think that he's under projected from a
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: minute standpoint as well. He was at thirty one minutes,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: like right under thirty one minutes last game before the
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: bench unit came in with four months left. I don't
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: I think he would have subbed out one more time
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: and then came back in. But he's probably closer to
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: like thirty three to thirty four if that game was close,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: So I think that he's closer to full.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: He also played in the back to backs. I think
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  Speaker 2: that he's pretty pretty much full now.
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  Speaker 4: So I like Kawi.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: The Kawhi and Mitchell pairing Kawhi Jared Allen I think
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: is really good as well. Definitely a game that you
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: got to get a good amount of exposure to. But
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: all right, any final thoughts in that game or if
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  Speaker 3: you want to close this out here.
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  Speaker 4: Now, I'm with you all over that. Like as much
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: as I like Wemby, even Kawhi as the best player
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: on the sleet, I think he's the priority play I'm
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: going to be playing. I'm playing three lineups to like
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: Kawhi will either be in all three of them or
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: at least two of them. So I like him a
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: ton here. He's just too cheap for his role in
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: what would be a competitive game, especially at what is
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: like by far the weakest position on the board. So
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: he just looks too good here. And I really like
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: your call on Sanders. You mentioned earlier in the show
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: when we talked about Boston that you were going to
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: limit yourself on the OKAC guys, and maybe you get
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: might make that, maybe you might get more exposed to
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: the Boston guys. I think the Oka See guys, even
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: though they're a little bit more expensive, kind of fit
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: that mold too, especially Sanders at forty three hundred, like
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: getting over the field on him, Niederhauser, even brook Lopez
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: if brook Lopez's ownership doesn't steam like, I think these
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: guys look like good pivots away from OKAC.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: Yep, I agree with you there.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: We got a lot of people watch right now, said
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: did want to take the time to kindly ask you
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: Smash that like Buddon for us would continue to do
• 1:04:50
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• 1:04:52
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• 1:04:54
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• 1:04:57
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• 1:05:03
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• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: Management this weekend, So yeah, that's gonna do it for us.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Really good show.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: Matt loved, you know, talking about some of the trade
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: deadline stuff and just breaking down the games always kind
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: of feels like I go a little bit more clear
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: headed into tonight's Slavey.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Any any closing thoughts here, Yeah, me too.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: No love breaking this stuff down with you. I will
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: say I am a little bit sad because I've seen
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: you get a bunch of credit in the chat for
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: Colier last night and just just hurts my feelings a
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: little bit. Obviously I'm playing. He was a fantastic play
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: and even at fifty percent, very much under owned.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll say you had him in your core at
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: probably three pos.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: I had him so early I deleted my core from
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: the from the day before before the ship itIt crew
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: did it, and then it got deleted, so I had
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: to go back and put him in again. Because I
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: knew he was gonna be in my core that bad.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's ahead of it. That's our collective boy, Isaiah Caller.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: I think that you probably like him a little bit
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: more than I do. But good to see him have
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: the night. Yeah, shout out calling, thanks for the thanks
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: for coming back around. But that's that's Matt's boy. But
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: all right, let's gonna do it. Appreciate you guys tuning
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: in and Matt will be back. All right, I'll be
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: back tomorrow with tyle Town.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: And then Matt will be back on Friday with him.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: Good luck to that. Everybody will catch you later and
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: stithers mother and span st and
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  Speaker 4: And spank