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Chuck & Buck 10-14 Hour 3: Harold Reynolds, Everett Fitzhugh and the ABCs of the Mariners · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Shot to right, Zipperfield farshow on the run.
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Speaker 2: He's up the trucks.
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Speaker 3: Bit's gone Bits.
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Speaker 2: Poland again, Poorgey Polanco is owning October for the Mariners.
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Speaker 2: He's giving them a six to three lead. Hey, good morning,
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Speaker 2: Mariners are up two to oh in the American League
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Speaker 2: Championship Series. How does that fit you here this morning?
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Speaker 2: Probably better than your own pants.
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Speaker 1: Fits me like a glove.
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Speaker 2: Fits you like a glove. You've never looked better. Thanks, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: Bucky Jacobson, former Mariner. My name is Chuck Powell. Ashley
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Speaker 2: Ryan here as well. We roll into our eight o'clock
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Speaker 2: hour with the knowledge that the Mariners are up two
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Speaker 2: oh in the ALCS against the Toronto Blue Jays, taking
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Speaker 2: both games on the road, and now they come home
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Speaker 2: for games three, four, and five if necessary right here
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Speaker 2: at T Mobile. Joining us now on the pro Graham.
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Speaker 2: He is the face of the MLB network. He is
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Speaker 2: the former second basement of your Seattle Mariners. He made
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Speaker 2: highlight play after a highlight play for you here in Seattle,
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Speaker 2: switch hitter, and what a smile. Harold Reynolds now joins
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Speaker 2: us here on Chuck and Buck in the morning.
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Speaker 4: Good morning, sir, Hey, isn't it a good Morning's.
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I.
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Speaker 4: Thought it was going to be a two holyad beautiful.
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, you know what, I'm not surprised by it.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that. What's the what's the feel around
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Speaker 2: the MLB Network studios? Is everyone there surprised?
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Speaker 4: But you uh no, not really. I mean we've had
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Speaker 4: a kind of a split. I mean, Toronto was.
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Speaker 5: Playing so well.
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Speaker 4: When you take down the Yankees and we're out of East,
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Speaker 4: everybody thinks that's the greatest thing ever. But we did
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Speaker 4: have a lot of people that felt like it was
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Speaker 4: the World Series is going to be Seattle in LA
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Speaker 4: and it's looking that way right now.
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Speaker 5: But the Marylands are playing great ball.
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Speaker 4: They're just playing the executing, the pitching and you know,
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Speaker 4: everything you guys are talking about.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah, obviously, I mean the way that they're pitching.
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Speaker 6: I mean it's been a few years where it's kind
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Speaker 6: of felt like this squad was set up as far
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Speaker 6: as the pitching staff goes to make some make some
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Speaker 6: hay in October and if they could just get into
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Speaker 6: the postseason. Right now, it's kind of coming to fruition,
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Speaker 6: even with that fifteen inning game. So I mean, how
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Speaker 6: big is it for the way in which Bizardo and
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Speaker 6: company came in yesterday to just kind of close that
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Speaker 6: thing out and let them reset their rotation.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought even Game one, you know, even before
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Speaker 4: yesterday's game, Game one, with the way Miller pitched coming
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Speaker 4: after that fifteen inning game really kind of set them up.
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Speaker 4: And you know what's unique about Seattle is the starting
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Speaker 4: pitching is going deep in the game. And what I
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Speaker 4: mean by unique is most of these clubs are playing
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Speaker 4: bullpen games. We saw yesterday the Brewers play the first
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Speaker 4: game of the series and they start with open earns,
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Speaker 4: a bullpen game, and that's kind of been ay the
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Speaker 4: last three years. So it's refreshing to see a team
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Speaker 4: like Seattle going out there with starting pitching saying we're
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Speaker 4: going to go as long as we can and then
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Speaker 4: we'll get.
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Speaker 5: To the pin.
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Speaker 2: We don't even have our arguably best starter available, yet
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Speaker 2: he's still coming. It looks like later this series in
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Speaker 2: Brian Wu. So yeah, I mean, what an advantage in
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Speaker 2: today's day and age. How much credit do you give
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Speaker 2: the Mariners organization? Most people give it credit, Harold, for
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Speaker 2: the way they develop and the way that they find
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Speaker 2: pitching talent, but the way that they keep it healthy,
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Speaker 2: because a lot of these organizations get to the end
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Speaker 2: of the year and they're lucky to have one or
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Speaker 2: two quality starters.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: No, they've done a great job and it's depth, you know,
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Speaker 4: that's what keeps it going for them. They've done a
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Speaker 4: tremendous job with that.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 4: I think also I need to give Jerry a lot
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Speaker 4: of credit. You know, he's taken a lot of hits
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Speaker 4: through the years. But the run that they're on right
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Speaker 4: now and John Stanton that they've been able to keep
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Speaker 4: this pitching.
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Speaker 5: At the right time.
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Speaker 4: Now, we're gonna run into a scenario here in a
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Speaker 4: couple of years where you're gonna start paying guys and
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Speaker 4: we might see some changes with the with what happens
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Speaker 4: with the guys. But right now, they're hitting at the
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Speaker 4: right time. And I thought, going to get the offense
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Speaker 4: that they needed to go get at trade deadline is
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Speaker 4: the only reason we're sitting here having this conversation today. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: we've watched this before where they had great pitching.
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Speaker 5: Great year, they just didn't hit and going to.
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Speaker 4: Get those two guys and I know they haven't hit
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Speaker 4: like they're capable of, but just lengthening the lineup has
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Speaker 4: forced clubs to have to pitch a lot deeper to
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Speaker 4: a better team. So that to me is a bigger
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Speaker 4: reason we're sitting here today.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Harold, how big is that in the postseason? I mean,
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Speaker 6: you know how it is just day to day throughout
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Speaker 6: the season. Where as a team when you feel like
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Speaker 6: I don't have to put a bunch of pressure on
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Speaker 6: myself because if I don't come through, the dude behind
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Speaker 6: me will pick me up, and so on and so
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Speaker 6: forth throughout the whole. But you get into the postseason,
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Speaker 6: there's so much hanging in the balance of every single pitch,
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Speaker 6: every single bat. How important is it to war this team?
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Speaker 6: Because I'm sure that these guys are feeling like I
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Speaker 6: don't have to go out there and get it done
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Speaker 6: because it does feel like one through nine had some
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Speaker 6: guys that are going to compete.
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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because what it does it taxes that pitcher.
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Speaker 4: You know, every pitch now is a concentration pitch that
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Speaker 4: and it's loud, and you make a mistake, it shows
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Speaker 4: up and it just puts repeated pressure on We'll go
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Speaker 4: yesterday's game, I mean the first inning you all of
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Speaker 4: a sudden, now where you walk the leadoff guy and
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Speaker 4: then here comes Cal, here comes Julio, and and you
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Speaker 4: know down the road you got two more. You haven't
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Speaker 4: even got to swar As yet or Nailer with the power.
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Speaker 4: So it changes the whole dynamic of everything as you're
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Speaker 4: looking through the roster. And then I did not over
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Speaker 4: skip Polocko. That kid is rolling right now. He's playing
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Speaker 4: tremendous ball. But it just shows that there's so many
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Speaker 4: guys that could hurt you. And that's that's the beauty
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Speaker 4: of having a.
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Speaker 2: Length in a lineup former Mariners second Basement. Harold Reynolds
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Speaker 2: our guest of course with MLB Network now MLB Network's
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Speaker 2: MLB Tonight, the National Pregame Show award winning National Pregame
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Speaker 2: Show is coming up later today at three pm Pacific time.
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Speaker 2: And through the World Series, of course, Harold sits along
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Speaker 2: Greg Amsinger, who's come a long way with his baseball knowledge,
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Speaker 2: by the way, and then the goofy asked Dan Plea
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Speaker 2: Sack as well, so are you guys? Are you arguing
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Speaker 2: over Brewers versus Mariners right now?
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Speaker 5: You and Plea sac.
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Speaker 4: You know, Dad is so funny like he's the all
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Speaker 4: time saves leader for the Brewers, but he's played with
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Speaker 4: like fourteen teams, so he's the biggest front runner in
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Speaker 4: the world. And you know, so he's all big blue
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Speaker 4: Toronto because he pits there, you know. And then he
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Speaker 4: was the Cubs, and then it was the Brewers. All
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Speaker 4: my dad, come on now, and he didn't pitch in Seattle.
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Speaker 4: So I'm like, don't even try to claim the Mariners.
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Speaker 4: So it's funny. We have a blast with these guys.
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Speaker 4: It's a good time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great watch. You guys are awesome. I
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Speaker 2: thoroughly enjoy it. All right, So you brought up Horriy Polonko.
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Speaker 2: I think we need to spend more time on him.
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Speaker 2: You were a Mariner second basement. He's the current Mariner
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Speaker 2: second basement. And man, he has just come through time
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Speaker 2: and time again here in the playoffs. What was the
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Speaker 2: book on Jorgey Polonko? And is anything he's doing surprising
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Speaker 2: you right now?
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Speaker 1: In these playoffs?
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Speaker 4: He's always been able to hit the knock was kind
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Speaker 4: of when it was a short stop, he just wasn't
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Speaker 4: a short stop. And then trying to figure out I'd say,
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Speaker 4: more than anything, the reason that he's had the struggle
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Speaker 4: of finding work, so to speak, is more where the
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Speaker 4: industry is at. You know, with age, they just kind
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Speaker 4: of push guys off and give him one year deals.
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Speaker 4: But he's made some money and the opportunity to going forward.
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Speaker 4: But as a player, the thing I see with him
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Speaker 4: is the intelligence. I look at how he is attacking
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Speaker 4: these pictures. He's got a game plan, the experience is
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Speaker 4: coming up. It's almost like I'm looking back and I'm
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Speaker 4: seeing a guy that's been sitting there talking to Edgar Martinez.
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Speaker 4: You know, I can see Edgar was so stubborn with
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Speaker 4: his approach, like I got a game plan, I'm staying here,
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Speaker 4: I'm trusting it. They're gonna throw me my pitch to
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Speaker 4: hit them boom. And I see the same thing with Jorge.
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Speaker 5: You know where he.
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Speaker 4: Takes trek scuoble deep twice. It's not by accident. He
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Speaker 4: knew what he was looking for and then the last
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Speaker 4: couple of days to come up big with plug situations.
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Speaker 4: He knows what he's looking for. So I think he's a.
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Speaker 5: He's a tremendous student.
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Speaker 4: And right now he's able to execute it. But I
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Speaker 4: can see the influence of Edgar, and I can see
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Speaker 4: the influence of Sitzer with stand consistently you're swaying. I
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Speaker 4: think those two have had a huge influence us on him.
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Speaker 1: Harold.
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Speaker 6: I don't think you and Dan Wilson's careers overlapped here
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Speaker 6: in Seattle. I think yours was winding down as his
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Speaker 6: was just getting started. But when you watch him from Afar,
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Speaker 6: I mean, the one he gets he gets. Every manager
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Speaker 6: is going to have their critics out there, and if
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Speaker 6: you're kind of a rookie where he was, you know,
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Speaker 6: took over last year and did well and then this
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Speaker 6: was his first full season. When you watch him, I
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Speaker 6: see a guy that just kind of even keel and
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Speaker 6: then he believes in his guys. I mean down to
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Speaker 6: the Edward Bizardo kind of had one bad game in
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Speaker 6: the in the previous series, and yet he bounced back
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Speaker 6: from that. Spire had a couple bad outings, and yet
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Speaker 6: he bounced back from that. How much do you think
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Speaker 6: it plays a good role in the mindset of these
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Speaker 6: players considering I think that their manager most certainly believes
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Speaker 6: in them and they feel it.
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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, a lot.
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Speaker 4: I mean two two things that stood out to me.
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Speaker 4: One most of these guys watched Dan Wilson ply you
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Speaker 4: know when they growing up. If you follow the Mariners
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Speaker 4: and you follow Griffy and you follow the great runs, Uh,
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Speaker 4: these guys got a chance to really kind of see
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Speaker 4: that group as they were growing up. So I think
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Speaker 4: that's that's a big part of it. And then secondly,
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Speaker 4: he's been around the organization even when he wasn't managing,
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Speaker 4: So they have a personal different personal relationship with Dan,
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Speaker 4: and now he becomes a manager. But there was one
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Speaker 4: scene yesterday I pointed it out in Game one that
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Speaker 4: really tells me a lot about Dan Wilson and the Mariners,
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Speaker 4: and it's when Cal Rawly, after Ryce Miller has runs
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Speaker 4: on first and second, after he's getting up the leadoff homer,
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Speaker 4: and cal Rawly walks out to the mound, calls time,
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Speaker 4: and walks out, and not one single infielder comes to
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Speaker 4: the huddle.
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Speaker 5: You know how there's a.
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Speaker 4: Pitchy change in a conversation. You see every infielder come
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Speaker 4: in there and try the adjitude sets hanging there, buddy,
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Speaker 4: you know whatever, And and it was just Cal and Miller,
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Speaker 4: And that's Dan Wilson letting him have the free reign
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Speaker 4: of understanding my catcher knows how to run the game.
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Speaker 4: And I think that's what Lou did with Dan and
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Speaker 4: I can see that with Cal and that relationship is big.
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Speaker 4: There's so much leadership and so much ability for him
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Speaker 4: to run things. I think that's a direct descendant from
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Speaker 4: Loopanella trusting and Dan Wilson, and Dan Wilson pouring that
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Speaker 4: into his catcher and his teammates feet off of that.
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Speaker 4: Just like you go back now and you talk to
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Speaker 4: the guys about those teams that Dan played on. He
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Speaker 4: clearly ran the pitching staff.
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Speaker 5: He was a big time leader on that team.
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Speaker 2: And I think you see it with Cal Well, speaking
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Speaker 2: of the dumper, we're seeing John Schneider approach him completely
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Speaker 2: differently than he has in past games, regular season games.
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Speaker 2: He's being careful with him. I mean, it's just been
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Speaker 2: one year of cal Raley behaving at the plate like
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Speaker 2: Babe Ruth. But has this magical year that he's had.
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Speaker 2: I mean every time he went into a series like
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Speaker 2: don't let Barry Bonds beat you, don't let Aaron Judge
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Speaker 2: beat you. Has cal ralely earned that in this one year?
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Speaker 2: Do you have to pitch a round him if you're
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Speaker 2: going to face Cal Raleigh.
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Speaker 4: Now, Uh yeah, it's been a transformative year. And I
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Speaker 4: think the one thing you don't hit sixty home runs
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Speaker 4: without being able to do a lot of damage from
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Speaker 4: both sides of the plate against a number of pitchers.
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Speaker 4: And I think the one thing that I always look
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Speaker 4: at is is he hitting good pitching? Is he doing
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Speaker 4: this off of good pictures? And if you look at
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Speaker 4: his resume of guys that he's homered off of, he's
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Speaker 4: doing it off of good pitching. So that's where you
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Speaker 4: get that next step, that next level of greatness. And
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Speaker 4: I think Cal's entered into that territory and he's taken
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Speaker 4: off of he had a big year last year for
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Speaker 4: a catcher, he just didn't.
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Speaker 5: Get sixty homers, you know.
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Speaker 4: So now he's gone to a whole nother level and
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Speaker 4: you can see the respect that they're pitching him with
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Speaker 4: in this series.
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Speaker 6: Harold, you you'd mentioned earlier the good moves that Jerry
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Speaker 6: and Justin had made. I mean, the I think the
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Speaker 6: best one is the Josh Naylor ad there at the
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Speaker 6: trade deadline.
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Speaker 1: I just love the grit that he plays with.
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Speaker 6: I mean, take us inside somebody that's been in a
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Speaker 6: clubhouse understands. That was one of those guys that how
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Speaker 6: important it is to have somebody that kind of plays
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Speaker 6: with a certain level of intensity that makes sure everybody
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Speaker 6: else plays the same well.
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Speaker 4: It raises everybody else, It raises their their their their drive.
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Speaker 4: And when you have one hundred and sixty two games,
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Speaker 4: it's easy to get for playoff games, but one hundred
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Speaker 4: and sixty two games, there's gonna be those days where
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Speaker 4: you just feel like, Eh, I don't know, asked Buck about.
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Speaker 5: He knows I'm talking about.
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Speaker 4: There's some days you drag and then the series is like, oh,
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Speaker 4: the Yankees are coming in town, let's go. When you
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Speaker 4: have a Josh Naylor every day coming in who slams
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Speaker 4: his head with the bat if he doesn't get a hit,
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Speaker 4: he's not afraid to getting somebody's face, that raises the
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Speaker 4: level of enthusiasm, excitement, and concentration.
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Speaker 5: So I love what he plays with.
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Speaker 4: I love what he brings. On top of that, he's
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Speaker 4: crazy talented. He's made the defense better, he can flat
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Speaker 4: out hit, and he's stealing bags.
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Speaker 5: All the things he's doing.
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Speaker 4: He's really an impressive player.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're calling him Thicky Henderson.
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Speaker 1: These days with all of his I love that.
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna use that.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I afraid that one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, take that material, run with it. I'll be very
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Speaker 2: proud to hear it on MLB tonight later on today.
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Speaker 4: All Right, so.
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Speaker 2: We know how crazy baseball can be, and you can't
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Speaker 2: take anything for granted, but to win both games on
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Speaker 2: the road, considering a little bit of a storm they
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Speaker 2: had to weather coming out of that long fifteen inning
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Speaker 2: marathon Friday night, I mean, where's the avenue that Toronto
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Speaker 2: gets back into this series? If there is one that
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Speaker 2: you can see.
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Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough. And because the Mariners are now
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Speaker 4: have their pitching rested, and.
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Speaker 5: You talked about earlier, Wu.
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Speaker 4: Hasn't even pitched yet. Yeah, so you know they're not hitting.
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Speaker 4: Toronto hits some balls at people quite a bit in
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Speaker 4: that series. So if I'm them, I'm saying, hey, some
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Speaker 4: balls are gonna start to fall. But on the Mariner's side,
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Speaker 4: they neutralize them and allowed to get the lead early.
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Speaker 4: It kind of changes how they got to play their
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Speaker 4: style of play.
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Speaker 5: And we can continue to do that.
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Speaker 4: Get the lead and continue to keep the pressure on
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Speaker 4: those those hitters.
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Speaker 5: Good things are gonna happen.
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Speaker 4: I just don't see losing this series. When you go
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Speaker 4: up to oh and you win to in Toronto, I
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Speaker 4: just don't see it, all right, So.
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Speaker 2: Are you gonna get here for any of this? I mean,
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Speaker 2: you should have been a part of that Friday Night.
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Speaker 2: I've never felt an atmosphere like that in a baseball game.
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Speaker 2: So are you gonna get here? Are you gonna wait
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Speaker 2: until to see if we make the World Series? What's
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Speaker 2: the plan? Former Mariner Harold Reynolds.
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Speaker 4: Well, there's two scenarios.
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Speaker 5: One.
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Speaker 4: Obviously, I'm covering the World Series. I will be on
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Speaker 4: ground wherever it's at. I'm playing on that be in Seattle.
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Speaker 4: But with this being the first time the Mariners can
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Speaker 4: go to a World Series, if it goes to a
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Speaker 4: Game six or a Game seven, which I'm kind of
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Speaker 4: hoping it doesn't at this point in time, but if
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Speaker 4: it does, I'm gonna go to those games and then
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Speaker 4: I'll stay for the rest of the World Series. Okay,
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Speaker 4: but at this point I'm expecting them to be able
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Speaker 4: to get through this.
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Speaker 5: Thing, and it may. You know, this team's not going away.
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Speaker 5: Toronto's not gonna go away.
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Speaker 4: I don't see a four games suite. But I do
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Speaker 4: see the Mariners winning this thing.
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Speaker 2: Well, once they do win it, please rub it in,
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Speaker 2: please sex face for us.
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Speaker 1: All I agree. Yeah, he'll be.
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Speaker 4: Wearing he'll probably grab the Titan from everybody holding that
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Speaker 4: thing up. Man, he's been talking Marriors the whole time.
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Speaker 2: All right, man, Hey, thanks, great to hear from you,
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Speaker 2: and we'll bug you again later in the world series
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Speaker 2: if it comes to it.
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Speaker 1: How about that?
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Speaker 4: Looking forward to it, even meet you guys in person.
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Speaker 2: Let's do yeah, yeah, yeah, well we'll bug you, that's
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Speaker 2: for sure. You don't have to tell us twice. We'll
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Speaker 2: annoy the hell out of you once you're in town.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Manat, appreciate you.
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Speaker 5: All rightuck, but appreciate you guys.
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Speaker 4: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Harold Reynolds joining us right here on Chuck and Buck
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Speaker 2: of course at MLB Network's MLB Tonight, the national pregame show.
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Speaker 2: It's won awards like wins awards all the time, those guys, uh,
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Speaker 2: so we appreciate him coming on, sharing his thoughts on
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Speaker 2: the ALCS. Coming up later. Ryan Healey will join us.
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Speaker 2: He's going to meet somebody special today. He'll meet up
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Speaker 2: the old judge for the first time. But coming up
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Speaker 2: next on the radio program, It's the guy that I
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Speaker 2: hugged first after the Mariners clinched the A. L d
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Speaker 2: Take a Tuesday Morning to you, Ashley. Ryan's here, former
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Speaker 2: Marina Bucket Jacobson. My name is Chuck Powell and joining
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Speaker 2: us now on the program. There's a grown man that
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Speaker 2: I hugged on the way out of t mobiles. You
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Speaker 2: did after the victory, and then I didn't even realize.
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Speaker 2: I got out to the street and I'm like, I
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Speaker 2: don't know. I know. I know that Everett loves Seattle,
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Speaker 2: and I know that he likes the Mariners, but he
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Speaker 2: did grow up a Tiger fan. I hope I didn't
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Speaker 2: hug Everett fits you when he was in a sad,
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Speaker 2: sad period of his life coming down.
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Speaker 1: He was there a little bit. He had gear on.
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Speaker 4: Ah.
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Speaker 2: Oh, so sorry if my enthusiasm got all over your
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Speaker 2: Tiger gear, Everett, sorry about that.
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Speaker 3: No, listen, I will say this right now, And I
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Speaker 3: just told vastly a second ago. There was a part
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Speaker 3: of me, a large part of me, that when the
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Speaker 3: Mariners won that game, I found myself in a in
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Speaker 3: a state of happiness. You know, I don't know if
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Speaker 3: it was because I was caught up in all the
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Speaker 3: reguildia and whatnot, but honestly, the Tigers losing wasn't as
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Speaker 3: sad as as I thought it was gonna be. And
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Speaker 3: I think it's because, you know, I go to fifteen
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Speaker 3: twenty games a year. My son is he called JP, Crawford,
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Speaker 3: Julio and Cal his best friends. Uh So it's you know,
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Speaker 3: it's listen, I I the Mariners. I now that I
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Speaker 3: live here in Seattle, the Mariners, I'm adopting them. They
19:41
Speaker 3: are becoming my team and more and more whenever they
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Speaker 3: play a team from Detroit, I find that Detroit fandom
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Speaker 3: waning a little bit. Now the Lions another story. We're
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Speaker 3: not talking with the Lions.
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Speaker 2: Okay, that will be believe the Lions out.
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Speaker 3: Yea, the Lions out of it, but you know they're
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Speaker 3: definitely is a bit of me that when the Mariners one,
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Speaker 3: I was like, all right, we are still alive. And
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Speaker 3: I felt like a wee as opposed to a day
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Speaker 3: So it felt pretty good.
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Speaker 2: How incredible was that game though Friday? How incredible was
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Speaker 2: I had.
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Speaker 3: Never been to a playoff baseball game. Before, so number one,
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Speaker 3: I got the cross that off the bucket list, and
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Speaker 3: then number two to see it the way that it ended,
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Speaker 3: and hanging on every pitch and you know, feeling the
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Speaker 3: polls of of of all the fans around me. I
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Speaker 3: was out in the bleachers one ninety three and it
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Speaker 3: was it was so much fun to be in that atmosphere.
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Speaker 3: It was loud. My ears are still ringing from that day.
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Speaker 3: I'm kind of mad. The beer sales got cut off
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Speaker 3: in the seventh so I had to go pretty much
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Speaker 3: a whole game without a beer, which I didn't like
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Speaker 3: that very much.
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Speaker 2: But I don't even think about that.
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Speaker 3: I don't think about that. Yeah, day of the day.
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Speaker 3: But no, it was. It was a fun It was
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Speaker 3: a fun atmosphere.
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Speaker 2: Ever it fits. You was with us the voice of
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Speaker 2: your Seattle Cracking, And I just want to say before
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Speaker 2: we start diving into cracking, Bucky and I went to
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Speaker 2: Detroit for the first time, and we are not making
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Speaker 2: this up. In fact, the nicest people in any city
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Speaker 2: in America, and it's not even close. We were stunned
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Speaker 2: by it, Everett. We were stunned how nice everyone was.
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Speaker 2: It was incredible.
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Speaker 3: Listen, many it's called Midwestern nice for a reason, and
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Speaker 3: everyone thinks that Minnesota owns the crown. But anywhere in
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Speaker 3: the Midwest, when someone asks, Hey, how you doing, they
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Speaker 3: genuinely want to have a ten to fifteen minute conversation
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Speaker 3: on how you're doing. How's your mom, how's your sister?
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Speaker 3: Did your dad surgery go? Okay? Weren't you up for
21:37
Speaker 3: a job last week? How did that go? We genuinely
21:40
Speaker 3: care how you're feeling. So yeah, man, Detroit is a
21:43
Speaker 3: great city. Don't let the news fool you. It's crazy
21:46
Speaker 3: a great town.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm from the midst too, and I'm telling you
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Speaker 2: that people from my hometown are a holes compared to
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Speaker 2: those from your hometown.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I thought for the longest time like that you were
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Speaker 6: an anomaly. Right, how is this guy so nice? Everybody's
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Speaker 6: in ever Troy And now I just realize you're just
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Speaker 6: running the mill Detroiter.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so it was wonderful. It was wonderful.
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Speaker 2: All right. Well, let's talk about our hockey teams too,
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Speaker 2: and oh start this. Yeah, they're off to just a
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Speaker 2: fabulous start here under Lane Lambert.
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Speaker 3: They are, and I think for a large part of
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Speaker 3: that is just due to the style of play that
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Speaker 3: lane is trying to establish here, and you've got players
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Speaker 3: buying in. And I mean outside of that first period
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Speaker 3: against against Anaheim on Thursday, you're seeing a very structured,
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Speaker 3: disciplined style of game. Yeah, they only scored the three
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Speaker 3: goals against Anaheim and you know, you win to one
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Speaker 3: in overtime to Vegas. For the offense probably maybe isn't
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Speaker 3: where a lot of folks would like, but defensively, structurally,
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Speaker 3: this is a different team from what we've seen in
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Speaker 3: the past couple of years. And I've talked to a
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Speaker 3: number of players, both on the defensive side and forwards,
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Speaker 3: and they they love this style of play. They like
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Speaker 3: the idea, you know, of of that grinding style that
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Speaker 3: really just sets them up for success. Because we've talked
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Speaker 3: a lot about this team. There isn't that star power.
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Speaker 3: There isn't that you know, big bonafide superstar. But what
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Speaker 3: you have is, you know, twenty different role players, depth players,
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Speaker 3: guys who can work hard and when they're playing that style.
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Speaker 3: As we've seen, it's only been two games, so I
23:27
Speaker 3: understand it's a very small sample size, but we've seen
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Speaker 3: that it has worked for them. And you know, I
23:32
Speaker 3: looked at al a couple of times in that Anaheim
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Speaker 3: game and in the Vegas game, and I said, if
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Speaker 3: this is how they're going to play all year long,
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Speaker 3: and if they can find a way to maybe push
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Speaker 3: that goals for to closer to three and play three
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Speaker 3: to one games or three two games, I like, this
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Speaker 3: team's chance is moving forward.
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Speaker 6: You use the word discipline there, and I mean I
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Speaker 6: think discipline is something that is is paramount to having
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Speaker 6: a team period across the board. Dive into that more like,
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Speaker 6: what is it that Lambert's got them doing or is
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Speaker 6: it the leaders that have them out there playing a
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Speaker 6: discipline style hockey?
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Speaker 3: So I'll give you an example. There were a couple
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Speaker 3: of there were a couple of times in the Anaheim
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Speaker 3: and Vegas games where you could tell that Seattle was
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Speaker 3: at the end of a shift and you know, maybe
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Speaker 3: you've got three on two coming through the neutral zone.
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Speaker 3: You have a lane down the side and you can
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Speaker 3: easily rush into the zone, try to get a couple
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Speaker 3: of shots off and set your offense up. But when
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Speaker 3: you're at the end of a shift, your legs are burning,
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Speaker 3: you're tired. Then you're gonna have to get back and
24:39
Speaker 3: that is when you fall into problems where you can't
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Speaker 3: skate as well as you would like to do, and
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Speaker 3: now the other team's got numbers going back the other way,
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Speaker 3: and you put your goalie in a bad situation. Last
24:49
Speaker 3: couple of games, the Kraken have been in that situation
24:52
Speaker 3: and rather than just crash the zone, they get to
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Speaker 3: the red line, they dump the puck in and they
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Speaker 3: turn off or a line change, And there were a
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Speaker 3: a lot of times when you could see a three
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Speaker 3: on two rush developing and they said, nope, we know
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Speaker 3: where we are. We'll dump the puck in and then
25:07
Speaker 3: we're going to live to fight another day. We saw
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Speaker 3: that a little bit in the preseason. I saw that
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Speaker 3: a lot in the last couple of games. So that's
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Speaker 3: that discipline that I was talking about. Defensively, a lot
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Speaker 3: of defensemen have been trying to join in the rush.
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Speaker 3: We've seen it the first four years a lot. This
25:23
Speaker 3: is a very active decor when it comes to helping out,
25:28
Speaker 3: you know, in terms of generating chances offensively. But the
25:31
Speaker 3: last couple of games you started to see these guys
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Speaker 3: stay at home a little bit more, play a bit
25:36
Speaker 3: more responsibly, not worry so much. You don't have you
25:39
Speaker 3: know Montour or done below the tops of the circles
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Speaker 3: on the fore check as much, or trying to keep
25:45
Speaker 3: pucks in the corner. That's what I mean about discipline.
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Speaker 3: It's about everyone knowing your role, staying in your particular
25:53
Speaker 3: role and letting the play develop and not trying to
25:56
Speaker 3: force it in.
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Speaker 2: Our last minute. Give me a thumbnail sketch of this
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Speaker 2: it's Montreal team that we start our road season with tonight.
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Speaker 3: Well this isn't this isn't your your father's Montreal Canadians
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Speaker 3: the last you know, five ten years, I think you know.
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Speaker 3: They they have a very good young corps and they
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Speaker 3: just wrapped up Lane Hudson, who was their star defenseman.
26:18
Speaker 3: They've just wrapped him up for nine years. They've signed
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Speaker 3: their top eight young players through at least twenty thirty three,
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Speaker 3: so they're setting up to be, you know, a pretty
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Speaker 3: strong team moving forward. Their problems are going to be
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Speaker 3: in goal. You know, Sam Montembau and Jacob bil Besh
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Speaker 3: are good goalies, but they don't have that elite number
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Speaker 3: one goalie. And the Can put up eight goals against
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Speaker 3: this team in this building last year, almost about a
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Speaker 3: year ago this time last year, so they're a good
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Speaker 3: young team, kind of in the similar vein as Anaheim,
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Speaker 3: but a little bit more experience. And I think for Seattle,
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Speaker 3: this is gonna be a game where they're gonna need
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Speaker 3: that discipline structure because they do have a lot of
26:59
Speaker 3: young skill and speed on their lineup.
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Speaker 2: All right, well, we will be listening for sure tonight
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Speaker 2: for o'clock Everett and ol on the call from Montreal,
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Speaker 2: one of the true great organizations in all of the
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Speaker 2: National Hockey League. All right, man, we will talk to
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Speaker 2: you soon. How long are you guys on the road?
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Speaker 3: For goodness sake, We're We're on the road until next
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Speaker 3: Thursday night, so the entire ALCS will be over by
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Speaker 3: the We could be in the World Series by the
27:27
Speaker 3: time we get back. Like that's how long this road
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Speaker 3: trip is.
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Speaker 2: If there is a chance you're in Toronto right for
27:34
Speaker 2: Game six.
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Speaker 3: SOT, Game five will be Friday, if we have a
27:37
Speaker 3: day off on Friday, so game five if it gets
27:41
Speaker 3: to a game five, which at this rate you don't know,
27:43
Speaker 3: but if there is a Game five, it'll be on Friday.
27:46
Speaker 3: I've got my Mariners jersey and my hoodie. You ready
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Speaker 3: to go out to the bar. To the restaurant here
27:51
Speaker 3: in in Toronto to hopefully watch the Mariners fly the pennant.
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Speaker 2: All right, all right, man, we'll have some fun on
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Speaker 2: the road. We'll talk to you real soon.
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Speaker 3: All right, fella's stick here at.
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Speaker 2: Everett fits you. First road trip of the season, you know,
28:07
Speaker 2: Alan ever'll get a little wacky. Oh yeah, trip of
28:10
Speaker 2: the season, especially dancing around cool cities like Montreal and
28:14
Speaker 2: Toronto and the whatnot.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just throwing moonies and tunies all over the.
28:17
Speaker 2: Probably they get rain loonies and tunies.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, be careful with that.
28:21
Speaker 4: It hurt.
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Speaker 2: Four o'clock start time tonight, Kraken and Canadians getting it
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Speaker 2: started as Seattle looks to move to three and zero
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Speaker 2: on the year. All right, coming up next on our
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Speaker 2: radio program, the ab Season, the MS Sports Radio ninety
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Speaker 2: three point three kh A r FM, everything else going
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Speaker 2: on in the college football world. And there's a lot
28:42
Speaker 2: at nine o'clock, but it won't disrupt our coverage here
28:45
Speaker 2: this morning of the ALCS. The old Judge is going
28:48
Speaker 2: to stop by at nine to thirty, So Ryan Healy's
28:50
Speaker 2: going to meet him for the first time.
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Speaker 1: Really excited about that. He'll be intimidated Oh, well, boy,
28:54
Speaker 1: certainly will be.
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Speaker 6: The judge doesn't have hair, but he brings a lot
28:59
Speaker 6: of wheat and wisdom and wisdom and authority.
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Speaker 2: And authority, no question, he definitely brings authority. I don't
29:06
Speaker 2: know about the other stuff wisdom. Oh yeah, oh well, yeah,
29:11
Speaker 2: now that you bring it off, see when you separated out,
29:14
Speaker 2: Uh huh, it's more the authority. All right, good point. Yeah,
29:18
Speaker 2: actually brings up a great point. In the meantime, ABC's
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Speaker 2: of the MS. We get to finish off the alphabet
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Speaker 2: here today and maybe finish off the Blue Jays hero
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Speaker 2: the next three days. We shall see, but we are
29:30
Speaker 2: at the end. Yeah, so X is for extraordinary and
29:33
Speaker 2: I know we've talked about him a lot, but obviously
29:36
Speaker 2: the ABCS of the MS wants to pay tribute to
29:38
Speaker 2: Are Polanco. Yeah. Once upon a time there was a
29:42
Speaker 2: stat called game winning RBIs. They used to keep it.
29:44
Speaker 2: It was the RBI that gave your team the lead,
29:47
Speaker 2: and you kept it for good.
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Speaker 1: I looked it up.
29:50
Speaker 2: It turns out that Keith Hernandez has the as the
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Speaker 2: record twenty four and one season. But they used to
29:55
Speaker 2: keep it. They don't keep that stat anymore. And yet
29:59
Speaker 2: here's horror Polonko with three straight and counting potentially in
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Speaker 2: playoff games. For goodness sake, So twenty four is the
30:07
Speaker 2: all time record for a season. And here is Jorge
30:12
Speaker 2: suddenly on this. I do it pretty much every game
30:15
Speaker 2: basis pace that he's got going on for this team
30:19
Speaker 2: right now. I mean, you just don't see this very often.
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Speaker 6: No, the last time that anybody had this many or
30:24
Speaker 6: more was dem and Young in twenty twelve had four
30:28
Speaker 6: postseason game winning knocks in a row.
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Speaker 1: That's knocking.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I'm not for sure Polonka would have had
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Speaker 2: the record.
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Speaker 6: Well, I mean it's he does. If the record is
30:37
Speaker 6: just four, that's how crazy it is. Yeah, to do
30:40
Speaker 6: it one, I mean, if you just did it once
30:43
Speaker 6: in a postseason, you're like, right on, that was awesome.
30:46
Speaker 6: I will remember that forever. Then you just do it
30:48
Speaker 6: the next night, and then you do it the next
30:50
Speaker 6: night again, like okay. So really, but I mean, ultimately,
30:54
Speaker 6: I'm not one that is okay. I'm not a guy
30:57
Speaker 6: that is okay. It's just the rest of my laurels
30:59
Speaker 6: and content. So I just think three in a row now,
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Speaker 6: six more to finish this bad boy off set the
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Speaker 6: record at nine and then I'll let you take it
31:08
Speaker 6: off season or yeah, six more game winning hits. It's yeah,
31:13
Speaker 6: I prefer him in a row, but they don't have to.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people kind of like, should we
31:18
Speaker 2: bring him back next year? And yeah, I mean I
31:22
Speaker 2: don't think you're going to bring back Naylor, Polonco and
31:25
Speaker 2: Sworez next season. But I think if I had to
31:29
Speaker 2: choose two out of the three, it'd be Naylor and Polonko.
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Speaker 1: At this point.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, I choose And that's nothing against Gino.
31:36
Speaker 1: It's just that, And it's.
31:37
Speaker 6: Not that he's scuffling right now and really hasn't turned
31:41
Speaker 6: into the dude that had forty eight homers or whatever
31:45
Speaker 6: it was that when we traded for him. It it
31:47
Speaker 6: just is I think that we got a guy over
31:49
Speaker 6: there and Ben Williamson at this point in time that
31:50
Speaker 6: plays great defense.
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Speaker 1: I would love to have Polonco. Maybe he's your DH.
31:54
Speaker 2: You still have Cole Young.
31:55
Speaker 6: Yeah, you still have Cole Young there at second base,
31:57
Speaker 6: but Nail's is number one for sure, And yet Polonko,
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Speaker 6: I'd love to have him back. I just he's not
32:03
Speaker 6: going to sign for the friendly deal he did this year.
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Speaker 2: Why as for you savage, kind of because you have
32:09
Speaker 2: to when you face a guy whose last name starts
32:11
Speaker 2: with why he was nasty, I'll say that. But also,
32:15
Speaker 2: you know, rookie three career starts for goodness sake during
32:19
Speaker 2: the regular season, then one in the postseason. You know,
32:23
Speaker 2: if anything, when you're throwing somebody that experience inexperienced into
32:29
Speaker 2: playoff games, I think the last thing that you're going
32:32
Speaker 2: to be able to achieve is consistency from one game
32:35
Speaker 2: to the next. I mean, he shirt certainly showed off
32:37
Speaker 2: an incredible arsenal last night. Man that splitter of his
32:41
Speaker 2: just dove right off the table, but he also had
32:44
Speaker 2: some inconsistencies in the strike zone and he ended up
32:48
Speaker 2: paying for that in the very end. So kind of
32:52
Speaker 2: a I get why the Blue Jays kind of tried
32:55
Speaker 2: to ride the hot hand, but I also see why
32:58
Speaker 2: the Mariners capitalized.
32:59
Speaker 6: Again, Yeah, well, I mean it's everybody in baseball. It's
33:03
Speaker 6: not just the Mariners. Even though we see the marinerso
33:05
Speaker 6: because we watch all their games that they don't always
33:08
Speaker 6: capitalize on hiccups by somebody, you know, a hit by
33:12
Speaker 6: pitch and then a walk, and we don't see a
33:14
Speaker 6: three run Dinger to kind of just abruptly, you know,
33:18
Speaker 6: welcome somebody to this series, like like we saw yesterday.
33:22
Speaker 1: But that is kind of the risk.
33:24
Speaker 6: Like I said in playoff Baseball, everybody's you're not giving
33:27
Speaker 6: any abs away, You're not giving any pitches away. You're
33:30
Speaker 6: you're going up there grinding out every single pitch. And
33:32
Speaker 6: for a young kid to go out with all of
33:34
Speaker 6: the pressure of we're down one zip, I got to
33:37
Speaker 6: answer the bell. I'm going against the opening day starter
33:40
Speaker 6: or the other team. This offense is deep. There's really
33:43
Speaker 6: nowhere for you to breathe. And yet he kind of
33:46
Speaker 6: starts out with the hit by pitch and the walk
33:48
Speaker 6: and now of a sudden, you got a budding superstar
33:51
Speaker 6: in Juli Rodriguez. You make a mistake and you're down
33:54
Speaker 6: three zip. It's it's not something that I think that
33:57
Speaker 6: they didn't worry about.
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Speaker 2: Z is for Zoo, which is kind of what I'm
34:02
Speaker 2: expecting Wednesday. Now that now that our fan base has
34:07
Speaker 2: been given so much credit for that performance on Friday,
34:11
Speaker 2: I mean, don't you try to match it. Don't you
34:13
Speaker 2: try to maybe even exceed it this week now that
34:16
Speaker 2: you're back home.
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Speaker 1: We shall see.
34:18
Speaker 2: But between that and the Blue Jays fans trying to
34:22
Speaker 2: infiltrate our sysem Canada trying to infiltrate our our stadium
34:26
Speaker 2: for these next couple of games, it should be just
34:29
Speaker 2: an absolute zoo tomorrow and potentially for the next three
34:33
Speaker 2: day Bring eleven. They want to close the borders for
34:35
Speaker 2: this week. I'm fine, Yeah, yeah, let's do that. Man,
34:38
Speaker 2: Just have some some repairs at the border. Oh, sorry,
34:43
Speaker 2: you can get across. Oh we didn't even think about that.
34:45
Speaker 2: Some road repairs we got to do here, Sorry about it,
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Speaker 2: slumber bummer.
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