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New Daniel Johnston exhibit celebrates Austin artist’s enduring impact · Austin Signal

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  Nearly one in five Americans live in
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  rural areas where there are often
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  fewer licensed therapists and
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  longer travel distances to mental
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  health care.
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  But hotlines like 9-8-8 give
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  people access to the help they need.
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  Find out why the support for that
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  lifeline is stronger in some
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  states than others.
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  Plus Daniel Johnson was known for
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  his art and music.
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  When he died in 2019, he left behind
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  a trove of his work, and some
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  of that work is on public display
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  as part of a new exhibit at Texas
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  State University.
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  More on that coming up.
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  The Austin Signal is a production
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  of KUT News, hosted by
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  Miles Bloxen.
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  This month marks 100 years of
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  celebrating Black History Month, and
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  one local organization is creating
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  space to celebrate Black Austinites.
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  Find out what they have planned this
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  weekend. That's up next on Austin
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  Signal.
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  Hello, hope your day is going well.
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  You're listening to the Austin
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  Signal.
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  Thank you for spending part of your
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  Tuesday right here with us.
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  I'm your host, Myles Bloxson.
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  Well, we're more than a week away
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  from the primary election day in
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  Texas. That means there are just
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  four more days left for you to cast
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  an early ballot.
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  And we've got everything you need to
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  know before heading to the polls
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  right at KUT.org.
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  Mental health hotlines can be
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  particularly valuable in rural areas
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  where there may not be therapists
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  or social workers close by.
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  That includes 988, the
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  National Suicide and Crisis
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  Lifeline.
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  It launched less than four years
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  ago and has already responded to
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  nearly 20 million contacts.
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  But support for that lifeline is
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  stronger in some states than others.
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  For Harvest Public Media, Texas
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  Standards, Michael Marks
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  has that story.
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  The 988 system was designed
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  to give people in crisis an easy
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  to remember number that's available
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  24 hours a day.
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  Every state has its own set of call
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  centers with trained operators.
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  And since the hotline started taking
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  calls in 2022,
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  demand has increased nationwide.
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  We have been seeing a month over
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  month increase in utilization of
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  9-8-8.
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  And so we are also working pretty
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  hard to keep up.
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  That's Monica Kerr's Chief
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  Administrative Officer for
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  HealthSource Integrated Solutions in
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  Kansas, one of the state's 988
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  call centers.
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  She says the service is a necessity
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  for rural Kansans.
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  We know that in our rural and
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  frontier counties in Kansas,
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  folks might be traveling hours to
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  get to their nearest mental health
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  clinic.
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  And this is a way to
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  access services right away without
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  that kind of distance barrier.
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  Responding quickly is essential.
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  A caller frustrated with a long wait
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  time might hang up.
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  Plus, if they spend two minutes on
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  hold, the call is rerouted
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  from a local facility to a
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  national backup center.
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  A backup operator may not be able to
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  connect someone with local
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  resources, says Lauren Moyer,
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  chair of Missouri's 9-8-8 task
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  force.
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  If someone is really struggling
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  with substance use and needs
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  connected to a residential substance
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  use bed in the moment,
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  somebody from another state is not
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  gonna have access to that
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  information.
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  When the 988 hotline launched,
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  the federal government paid for it,
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  but states were expected to pick up
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  the tab eventually.
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  That has not happened in Texas yet.
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  Jennifer Battle is vice president of
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  the Harris Center in Houston, which
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  fields 988 calls.
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  During a legislative hearing last
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  year, she said the state's call
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  centers get around 200,000 calls
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  annually, and the state needs to
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  step up and help fund the program.
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  As impressive as these numbers are,
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  that we're able to serve with the
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  current federal funds, these
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  funds only allow for us to be
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  able to answer on average 84%
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  of the 988 calls that originate
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  in Texas.
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  The federal 9-8-8 bill recommended
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  that states pay for the program
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  through fees on telecommunication
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  products.
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  That's how 9-1-1 is largely funded.
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  Only it doesn't have done so,
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  including Minnesota and Illinois.
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  But in Missouri, they're doing
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  things a little differently,
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  dedicating money from the state's
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  general fund each year.
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  Lauren Moyer, the Missouri State
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  Task Force Chair, worries about
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  sustainability.
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  You know, general revenue support,
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  it's its own line item, and that's
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  not guaranteed long-term.
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  Oklahoma doesn't have a recurring
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  fee to support 9-8-8 either.
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  According to State Representative
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  Kevin Norwood, a Republican from
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  the Tulsa area, there's little
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  appetite in the state legislature
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  for a new tax.
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  Before I became a legislator,
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  that idea was introduced and
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  it gained no traction.
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  Norwood is now sponsoring a bill
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  that would create a trust fund for
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  9-8-8, which would ensure the money
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  is only used for the hotline.
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  When I jumped into it, I was like,
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  OK, we need to make it where
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  it's not just a short-term fix,
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  that it would be long-term.
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  Term and sustainable.
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  Texas has followed a similar path.
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  Lawmakers there have been unable to
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  pass the telecommunications fee
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  through the legislature.
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  In 2025, Texas established
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  a trust fund, but the balance
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  is currently zero.
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  Jonathan Pertle studies 988 funding
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  at the New York University School of
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  Global Public Health.
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  Those trust funds are
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  a strategy, but if
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  there's not funds in the trust
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  fund, it's not going to have
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  that much of an impact.
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  But it's something that some states
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  are trying.
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  It's a signal of effort, I suppose.
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  Pirtle is near the end of a
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  five-year study.
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  He's analyzing the funding of 988
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  systems in all 50 states.
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  So far, he's found that those with
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  long-term, dedicated funding for
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  staff are generally more
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  efficient.
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  The big thing is people, right?
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  The staffing, the people who work in
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  these call centers is the main
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  thing.
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  He may have a new data point in the
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  near future.
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  Missouri's legislature is set to
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  consider a 988 funding fee later
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  this year.
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  That was Texas Standard's Michael
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  Marks reporting for Harvest Public
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  Media, a collaboration of
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  public media newsrooms in the
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  Midwest and Great Plains,
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  including Texas Standard.
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  There were lots of touchstones that
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  raised the profile of Austin as a
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  hub for the counterculture in Texas
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  in the eighties and nineties.
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  But certainly one of the most
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  enduring is the art and music of
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  Daniel Johnston, the musician and
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  artist known for his bare bones, a
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  lo-fi recording, as well as
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  his striking visual art, his famous
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  high, how are you frog that's down
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  the street from us here at KUT.
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  But when he died in 2019,
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  Johnston left behind many, many more
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  recordings, drawings and other
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  creations.
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  Much of which were collected
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  by his close friend and manager,
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  Jeff Tartikoff.
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  Now, some of that work will be on
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  display for the public as part of a
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  new exhibit at the Whitliff
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  Collection at Texas State University
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  in San Marcos.
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  Tartickoff spoke about the
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  collection with Texas Standards'
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  David Brown and Whitliffe curator,
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  Hector Saldana.
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  Let's begin with you, Hector.
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  The name of this exhibit, True Love,
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  will find you in the end, which is
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  obviously a reference to a
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  wonderful song that
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  Daniel Johnston wrote.
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  But it goes on, the title of
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  the exhibition, The Revealing
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  Art of Daniel Johnstone.
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  And I understand the idea for this
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  has been in the works for what, a
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  couple of years?
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  Yes, ever since we acquired
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  the Jeff Tartikoff collection,
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  which was amazing from
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  the get-go.
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  I mean, meeting Jeff, who's an
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  expert and was a friend of
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  Daniel's, but also because the
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  materials allow a
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  peek inside the mind of this artist
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  that we love but
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  don't always understand.
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  I mean I think these materials let
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  us understand more about
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  the person, the human being.
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  As well as the artist, which
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  fascinated me.
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  And so to put this exhibit together,
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  Jeff and I had talked about curating
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  it, but then came the opportunity
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  for myself to work with
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  a young student,
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  a photographer named Lucas Kraft,
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  who was a fan.
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  We curated these original
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  drawings, writings,
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  and photographs.
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  Jeff, you knew Daniel Johnston,
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  and certainly given how much of
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  these materials you've preserved
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  over the years, y'all must have been
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  pretty close.
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  Can you tell us more about how you
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  came to know and work with Daniel?
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  Sure. I first met Daniel Johnstone
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  when I was in high school.
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  Daniel in 1985,
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  a month or two after his appearance
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  on MTV's Cutting Edge program.
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  That was a big deal for Austin back
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  then.
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  Yeah, I mean, I watched it, but
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  I had never met him before.
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  When I was out in San
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  Marcos, a year
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  ago today,
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  they probably would have put me
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  in a home.
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  But I threw all my
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  belonging into
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  a garbage bag,
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  and out into the world
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  that I've been grown.
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  I was living with a musician named
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  Bill Anderson who played in the band
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  Poison 13 and
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  Daniel was a big fan of theirs and
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  he became good friends with Bill and
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  he began coming over to the house
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  that fall.
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  So I got to know him that way.
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  He'd come over and start flipping
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  through my album collection,
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  see my Beatles records and that
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  was where we kind of first bonded.
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  We should talk a little bit about
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  something. A lot of people know
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  these stories that are associated
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  with Daniel Johnston but for the
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  benefit of people who don't.
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  There are these stories that go
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  around maybe some of them apocryphal
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  maybe you know if they're true.
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  One of the stories was he was
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  working at a nearby McDonald's not
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  too far from where we are right now
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  and he would tuck away
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  cassette tapes of some of his
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  recordings that he had made and
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  uh... People would would find these
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  uh... These albums uh...
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  Effectively in their happy meals
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  especially happy meals
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  He did a little bit of that, mainly
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  if it was an attractive young
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  lady or anybody who looked
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  like a
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  musician.
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  Hector, you were telling me
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  something about how important it
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  was that you
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  didn't want in this exhibit for this
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  to be a kind of psychoanalysis of
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  Daniel Johnston. You wanted this to
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  sort of reflect the
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  integrity of the person.
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  I think you said something to me
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  that was really striking, that you
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  hoped this would be the kind of
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  exhibit that if Daniel Johnstone
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  were around today, he'd be proud
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  Well, yes, because I
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  didn't want to play psychoanalyst.
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  If you come at it from loving
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  the music, misunderstanding the
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  mystique, maybe feeling
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  a certain thing about him because of
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  his mental health issues,
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  I thought the materials could help
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  you, give you some insight
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  if you walked into that space.
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  When someone goes to see this
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  exhibit, how do you lay it out?
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  What do they see? What do the
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  experience?
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  You're gonna see, first of
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  all, a very bold
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  for a museum setting, at
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  least for the Whitleth collection.
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  We use this passionate purple for
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  the walls.
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  We have a beautiful
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  Niles Fuller image,
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  larger than life, huge.
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  I wanted to present it the way we
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  would do almost anybody
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  and also try to
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  show this artist in
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  a sense at his peak,
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  but maybe at his most vulnerable.
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  Those who have been exposed, I'm
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  always, Jeff, I am always struck by
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  this, that people who are exposed
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  to his music, they never stop
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  there.
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  They always want to dig more into
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  it, and I'm curious, what do you
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  think that's about?
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  Well, first of all, there's just so
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  much of it to be discovered.
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  He was very, very active
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  as far as his songwriting goes.
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  He never stopped writing.
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  No, and it's actually kind of
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  unfortunate that in his last
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  few years, the recording didn't
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  keep pace with the songwriting.
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  What do you think he made of his
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  place in pop
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  culture? Did he have a
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  strong sense of that and how
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  did he feel about it?
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  I think he did.
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  I think he
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  was aware that he had
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  reached most of his goals,
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  probably all of his goals, except
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  for ending up with the woman
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  who married the undertaker.
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  But professionally, he
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  probably felt like he reached
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  the top.
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  I think he had
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  given up on being as big as the
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  Beatles and was happy just to be as
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  big as The Butthole Surfers.
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  Hahahaha
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  I think, you know, again,
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  going to whether he
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  felt, I mean, obviously he felt he'd
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  made it, but I think there was a
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  cost to it.
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  And some of the drawings even show
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  that, you know, where this, this
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  happy frog, you know, that
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  we love so much and sort
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  of captured by the media.
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  Yeah, yeah. But you know one of them
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  shows it all shackled.
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  So you wonder, did it become an
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  albatross around him?
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  You know, did he wonder, you I
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  mean this is the stuff I guess for
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  researchers, you know, did it become
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  something that he wanted to escape
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  or embrace?
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  I mean, I think the material showed
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  that at times he was embracing that
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  sort of image, and there were other
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  times when there is a question
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  of how much it
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  might have caused him some pain.
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  There's some lingering sadness
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  because we don't really
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  know if true love found him in the
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  end. It did not in a conventional
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  sense, but I think he felt the
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  love from his fans.
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  True love will
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  find you in
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  the end.
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  That was Jeff Tartacoff
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  and Hector Saldana speaking
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  with Texas Standard's David Brown
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  about a new collection of
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  recordings, drawings, and other
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  creations from Austin icon
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  Daniel Johnson on display
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  at the Whitliff Collections in San
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  Marcos.
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  We'll have an extended version of
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  that conversation in today's
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  podcast, Show Notes.
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  More Austin Signal after this
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  break.
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  This is Austin Signal, welcome back.
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  This February, we are celebrating
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  100 years of Black History Month,
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  and one local organization is
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  creating space to celebrate black
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  history right here in Austin.
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  Third Spaces is hosting Celebrate
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  Black ATX this Saturday,
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  February 28th, shining a
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  spotlight on the culture and
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  contributions of black Austinites.
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  In the studio with me are the
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  co-founders of Third Spaced and
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  Celebrate black ATX, Brian
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  Edwards and Jane Obey.
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  Great to have you here.
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  Yes, ma'am. Thank you for having us.
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  Of course. Can you all tell us what
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  Third Spaces is and how y'all got
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  started?
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  Absolutely.
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  So Third Spaces is a
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  community organization
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  and we focus on
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  curating and creating Third Spaced,
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  which a Third Space is not home, not
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  work, a third place that
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  you can join, commune fellowship
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  with your neighbors and your
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  community around you.
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  And we really like
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  to center the Black lived
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  experience here in Austin.
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  And so we host community events.
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  And festivals where people
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  can come sing dance
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  live and just be right
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  here in the community in Austin
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  And your website says the goal is to
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  create spaces where people can feel
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  heard, seen, and celebrated,
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  especially in a time where people
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  feel disconnected.
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  Why are organizations like Third
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  Space is critical to sustaining
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  culture and community?
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  Yeah, I think culture is
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  the backbone of every city.
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  It's the backbone of every community
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  at the end of the day.
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  And it also helps us flourish, helps
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  us grow. It helps us kind of touch
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  the next generation.
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  So culture is so important to
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  how we actually just commune with
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  one another.
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  And I think there's a lot of
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  organizations who are doing great
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  work, like Where You At, though, or
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  Art is Cool, or Water Your Plants.
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  There's just a few of the amazing
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  organizations here in Austin who are
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  are doing that work.
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  It's a labor of love as well,
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  so.
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  It's definitely something that a lot
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  of organizations are doing out of
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  the passion for the community.
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  I love that and y'all are clearly
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  making a real impact in the
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  community when it comes to community
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  and connections.
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  And this is like your fifth
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  year of hosting Celebrate Black
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  ATX and it's become a
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  powerful community tradition.
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  So what was the early vision
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  behind it and did y'al anticipate
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  that this thing would grow into what
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  it is today?
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  Absolutely.
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  The early vision was
• 16:51
  just me being a
• 16:54
  wife who likes to give her husband
• 16:56
  honey-to-do's.
• 16:57
  And I was like, honey, could you do
• 16:59
  this quick history tour since
• 17:00
  Javier Wallace of Black Austin Tours
• 17:02
  was not available at that time
• 17:04
  because he was getting his Ph.D.
• 17:05
  Shout out Black Austin Towers.
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  And my husband Brian, he
• 17:09
  loves history.
• 17:10
  He's great at retaining loads
• 17:12
  of information.
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  And at that we were with our church
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  and we were like, we would love to
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  do this little history tour for the
• 17:18
  church. And I was like, Brian, you
• 17:19
  can do it. And so it was just
• 17:21
  like 30 people from our church that
• 17:23
  showed up and then year after year
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  after year we just kept growing
• 17:27
  and adding more
• 17:30
  community impact and output.
• 17:32
  And now here we are, we got grants
• 17:34
  from the city of Austin, we've
• 17:36
  befriended people in the
• 17:37
  neighborhood and people keep telling
• 17:39
  us we need this, we wanna see
• 17:41
  it and we appreciate what y'all are
• 17:42
  doing. So of course it fuels us to
• 17:44
  keep doing more.
• 17:46
  Absolutely, I think she hit it right
• 17:47
  in the head. This was never
• 17:48
  something that we thought it would
• 17:49
  become.
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  It's just kind of blossomed and
• 17:52
  grown out of something out of
• 17:53
  passion for the community.
• 17:55
  Oh wow, I've been speaking to
• 17:57
  co-founders of Third Spaces,
• 17:59
  Brian Edwards and Jane Obey, about
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  their event, Celebrate Black ATX,
• 18:03
  coming up this Saturday, February
• 18:04
  28th.
• 18:05
  Okay, so y'all have been doing it
• 18:07
  for five years.
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  You have to tell me what your
• 18:09
  favorite memory is from this
• 18:10
  particular event.
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  I would say my favorite memory is
• 18:14
  from the last year.
• 18:15
  Last year, it felt like a
• 18:17
  mini Coachella
• 18:19
  in the heart of East Austin.
• 18:21
  And we had a line dance class
• 18:23
  hosted by We Outside ATX, which is
• 18:25
  the local black run club here in
• 18:27
  Austin. And it was just
• 18:29
  beautiful to see hundreds
• 18:31
  of people stepping in
• 18:32
  rhythm, stepping and singing,
• 18:34
  turning around at the same time,
• 18:36
  whipping their bandanas in the air.
• 18:38
  And it just felt like home.
• 18:41
  Yeah, for me, it was also
• 18:43
  last year, but I think being able
• 18:44
  just to sit back and see
• 18:47
  four, at that time, four years of
• 18:49
  just work and connections with
• 18:51
  the community really come to
• 18:53
  fruition. I think, being able to see
• 18:54
  the joy that we put on people's
• 18:56
  faces, that's really why
• 18:57
  we do it.
• 18:58
  It's not really out there to
• 19:00
  make money or do anything else.
• 19:02
  It's really just to get people a
• 19:03
  space, right? So they can feel at
• 19:05
  home and they can call home, right.
• 19:06
  And so. Just being able to see that
• 19:08
  firsthand last year especially when
• 19:10
  it was probably our biggest
• 19:11
  iteration yet to that point.
• 19:13
  So it was just a blessing to see.
• 19:14
  And what can people expect this year
• 19:16
  from attending Celebrate Black ATS?
• 19:19
  Yeah, similar to last year,
• 19:21
  we used to have a walking tour,
• 19:23
  historic walking tour of East Austin
• 19:24
  early in the morning that starts at
• 19:25
  11 a.m.
• 19:26
  And our black party starts at 1
• 19:28
  p.m., we'll have the HT Jazz
• 19:30
  Collective there again.
• 19:31
  Oh wow legendary
• 19:34
  led and taught by Professor
• 19:36
  William Oliver, H.T.
• 19:37
  Shout out to him and his team
• 19:39
  and his collective there.
• 19:41
  We'll have DJs, jazzy,
• 19:44
  and also male vibes
• 19:46
  there, performing from two to six as
• 19:48
  well. And we'll have also that line
• 19:49
  dance class again coming back at
• 19:50
  three o'clock. That'll be led by
• 19:52
  Step It Up Austin this year.
• 19:54
  And most importantly, we're gonna
• 19:55
  have great food provided by
• 19:57
  the historic Victory East.
• 20:00
  They're doing a cookout menu for us
• 20:01
  and a crawfish boil this
• 20:03
  year. And so I don't know about you,
• 20:05
  but for me, what gets me showing up
• 20:07
  to events is the menu and
• 20:09
  the food, so we're really excited.
• 20:11
  And Radio Rosewood across the
• 20:13
  street, they're doing special coffee
• 20:15
  menu for use and 10% of proceeds
• 20:17
  will be going to the East Austin
• 20:18
  Creative Coalition, which is what
• 20:20
  Kenny Durham's backyard is under.
• 20:22
  Also, I would name also that we
• 20:24
  do have some awesome artists who are
• 20:26
  doing exhibits there, Jacob Guzman,
• 20:29
  The Prophet, Asia Lana Vegas,
• 20:31
  just those three amazing artists
• 20:32
  that are going to show up and
• 20:34
  exhibit their art.
• 20:35
  We're really excited just to give
• 20:36
  them that space to just pour what
• 20:38
  they've actually created into the
• 20:40
  community and let it come to
• 20:41
  fruition in light.
• 20:42
  And a marketplace.
• 20:43
  We're going to have black owned
• 20:45
  businesses selling their
• 20:47
  products and services.
• 20:48
  And that was also one of my favorite
• 20:50
  parts last year and everyone almost
• 20:51
  sold out. And so to be able to put
• 20:53
  money back into the pockets of local
• 20:56
  black Austinites is incredible.
• 20:58
  Come support and shop.
• 21:00
  That's what it's all about.
• 21:01
  Sounds like an amazing event.
• 21:02
  And you guys have planned for this
• 21:03
  Saturday. For those who are
• 21:05
  listening, who wants to get
• 21:06
  involved, how can they support Third
• 21:07
  Spaces and celebrate Black ATX?
• 21:10
  And where's the best place to learn
• 21:12
  more?
• 21:12
  Ooh, you can support, we're always
• 21:14
  looking for volunteers.
• 21:15
  If you wanna sign up, we have it on
• 21:17
  our website or our GivePulse,
• 21:19
  but also just come out and show up,
• 21:21
  all right, and just enjoy the space.
• 21:23
  It's gonna be a family-friendly
• 21:24
  event. All ages are welcome, all
• 21:26
  ages will have fun.
• 21:27
  There'll be a kids activation there
• 21:28
  for your little ones, so bring them
• 21:30
  too.
• 21:31
  You can follow us on Instagram at
• 21:33
  spaces underscore wecreate.
• 21:35
  You can find us online at
• 21:36
  celebratespaces.com and.
• 21:39
  Keep on the lookout for any other
• 21:40
  the the the cool collaborations of
• 21:42
  partners we will announce this week
• 21:43
  too. So
• 21:44
  I've been speaking with Brian
• 21:45
  Edwards and Jane Obey about their
• 21:47
  upcoming event, Celebrate Black ATX,
• 21:49
  a Celebration of Black Culture here
• 21:51
  in Austin.
• 21:52
  To find out more information about
• 21:53
  the event or ways to support the
• 21:55
  organization Third Spaces, visit
• 21:57
  celebratespaces.com.
• 21:59
  Thanks so much for joining me today,
• 22:00
  Jane and Brian.
• 22:01
  Thank you for having us, bro.
• 22:02
  Happy to be here.
• 22:03
  And have a good history month.
• 22:07
  I cannot believe it's been 100
• 22:09
  years. Happy Black History Month.
• 22:11
  We only have a few days left in the
• 22:13
  month for that.
• 22:14
  And that's it for today on Austin
• 22:15
  Signal. I hope you enjoyed the
• 22:17
  show. We'll have more about the
• 22:19
  stories we shared with you today in
• 22:21
  the podcast show notes page.
• 22:23
  And you can find more from us
• 22:25
  at kut.org slash
• 22:27
  signal.
• 22:27
  Casey Cheek is our technical
• 22:29
  director today and Jerry Kehano is
• 22:31
  wearing a different hat and he is
• 22:33
  the show's producer.
• 22:34
  I'm your host, Myles Bloxson
• 22:36
  And I'll be back with you tomorrow
• 22:38
  on the Austin Signal, so I
• 22:40
  hope you have a good rest of your
• 22:42
  day. Talk to you then.