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E60: Las mujeres y el running - Nicol Avellaneda · Running Desde Cero

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  with some. Well, without further ado. We present today' s guest.
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  This is Nicole Avellaneda. How you doing, everybody. Thank you both
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  so much for the invitation and it is a pleasure to be here with you
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  today. Well, I want to have you as a guest, because you
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  ' re the face of one of the biggest freaks in Bogotá for me,
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  on women' s issues. So, thanks for being here, not you,
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  for the invitation and just to be able to make much more visible this
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  kind of causes and more in a sport that is growing as well as Super
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  Rolling well. Well, I was also going to thank you for coming here
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  because, because we all know that this sheath is crazy to train, work,
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  study and that sheath becomes difficult. Then we thank you for this one
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  here and I' m going to explain a little bit how the podcast dynamic
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  works. The idea is to meet you as a person, yes, to
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  know everything you or. Let' s see where you were born, how
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  old you are, what you studied, in which neighborhood of Bogotá you lived
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  because Pablo, who don' t know this podcast, is recorded here in
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  Bogotá. Then and then and also tell us how your interaction with the sport
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  was when you were little and then get to know how you became a runner,
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  then tell us everything. Okay, well, well, like you said,
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  my name is Nicola Ballanea. I' m nineteen years old and I
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  ' ve been running for twelve years. I twelve years running, but I
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  started with the city veil skating. I started skating online when I was five
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  and since I was very young. I really liked that, for example,
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  because in my family, like sport was always key, because my grandfather was
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  a cyclist, he was a racer, he was a boxer then like he
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  always competed a lot, but he, because of an accident had to stop
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  exercising. But the irony is that when he was a sportsman, no one
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  in the family was a sportsman, just him, just him. They all
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  accompanied him, but none of them did anything. So, when he had
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  the accident, they were kind of used to accompanying him to the competitions and
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  so on, when he stopped being a sportsman, like there are three of
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  them are my dad and my uncle and my aunt, and they grabbed like
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  each other or a sport. My aunt grabbed the bike, my dad the
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  running and my uncle grabbed both then, like they started to share a lot
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  of the theme of the races and my grandfather kind of stopped being a sportsman,
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  but he started to support full the sport of the others then, like
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  for the family it was always going out to compete. If you competed,
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  you were in ten to be a bar, that' s just one run,
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  but you go to the whole family to make it a bar. Man,
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  after the accident, I don' t remember anything anymore, or I
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  don' t. He couldn' t because he had a thrombus in his
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  leg and a hip injury then, as he couldn' t, but he
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  was always like full support, like the sports carts that were being born.
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  In other words, he formed, his sports career ended, he developed three
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  new athletes, yes, and from there many more were born. Then,
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  for example, we got into skating with my sister and we lasted there as
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  well as five years and we were going, well, quite well. But
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  at eleven I had to retire from we had to retire, like skating,
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  and I was about a year without exercising, well ironic, because I hated
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  running, that is, I couldn' t run two hundred meters, which
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  is what the skating rink saw. I hated running. I was the ones
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  who said let' s try and hide the bushes back, laugh at a
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  game and hide and then show up and time is up. I didn'
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  t run anything. And also because of the fact that when I was little,
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  I once had an asthma crisis. Then I ended up with the hospital
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  because I kind of collapsed from the lungs and then, like we were told
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  she could never exercise, she' s never gonna be able to run.
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  I had to go with an inhaler. I was drowning all the time and
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  my mom, once I mean, got tired like it was like a time
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  when all the time inhaler, I don' t know what. And my
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  mom got tired of it and once she said how oh, she' s
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  not gonna touch metal to exercise and whatever God wants. And that' s
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  it, and it was like no more controls. Do everything and let'
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  s get him to exercise and just like that, then let' s say
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  what skating helped a lot and I, well, after I retired, but
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  why did you retire. You know, yeah, yeah, I want to
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  know a little more about skating. Well, I don' t know if
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  you tell me, you tell us faster first, nothing, because there are
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  types of skating you say speed skating. How is that, for example,
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  because there is online skating, which is like the most classic skates, because
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  right here come the four wheels, one behind the other and there is also
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  artistic skating, because let' s say in Colombia ice skating is not very
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  common. In addition, Colombias world power in skating. So, like,
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  so mine, when they' re little, trains this sport and besides,
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  it' s a really fun sport. I' ve always liked speed very
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  much. I don' t think that' s why I skated, I
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  wasn' t a funder, I was a power man. Then he skates
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  there too speed, strong at the bottom and there' s like combined tests,
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  dot- by- dot tests. So you can run the tests fast,
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  but tell me what the power is really good for you, because it
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  ' s a very powerful sport, it' s a very fast sport.
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  Then there' s the track, too, and there' s the route.
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  Then there are tests that are done on the track as such and tests
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  that are done on the route that tend to be the longest, such as,
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  for example, the marathon that the skating marathon is done en route and
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  there are forty- two kilometers. It' s also forty- two kilometers.
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  In fact, if I' m not bad, I think the Berlin
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  Marathon before is done the Skating Marathon, it' s one of the maigers.
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  Yes, because I think they say that because of that the tracks are
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  super flat and paved, because the day before or the week before it is
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  Patti Marathon. The theory does give you both route as well as track and
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  speed combined. There are ones that are by points. Then you get comptes
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  on the track and depending on the position you' re left in plus a
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  few points and the last person to stay with less points is being eliminated until
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  a person wins the test. That a robbin by run hears. That'
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  s been heard super funny and the Rurin isn' t that funny. Why
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  did you get out? You' re the one who walked. The truth
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  is because I was very stubborn and annoying when I was little. Then I
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  was going to get up early and I was putting up a lot of trouble
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  to get up. So, besides, I was a technical school. Then
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  the school hours were about six to six or six to four when it was
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  a continuous day, when one is in elementary school from six to four.
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  Because, thanks to the programs like the mayor' s office, I got
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  to play. He played violin for Bogotá' s children' s philharmonic orchestra.
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  Then in the morning you would study there in the afternoon, you would
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  go to practice, yes, to rehearse, yes, and you would get
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  tired that you studied all day, rehearsed and on Sundays that you could sleep
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  where you could go to training. Yeah, so that' s what I
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  told you, but I made you more of a sport or o. And
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  the truth is I think the sport, that is UFFF is an interesting mix,
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  because I stopped playing and why the instruments are expensive, can' t
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  play again, but it' s something that gives too much and I really
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  like music. But I feel like sport too, because it was something I
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  shared a lot with my grandfather, so we have always and not only shared
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  with him, but also with my dad. So, like, sport has
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  always been very key and so let' s say what I was fascinated with,
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  speed, what I was telling you, because they' re really fast
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  tests and the piste track has a peralte. So, in the curves,
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  the track is up and you' re going too fast. So, when
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  you take the curve, you go in and make the braid, you lean
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  to one side, and quickly, you lean too far. So, they
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  ' re kind of too interesting emotions. I never spent obvious ufff on you
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  that much. And it' s just that when you do you' re
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  in group training, you go a lot one after the other, and if
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  you fall, you all fall into the domain and everything falls on you.
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  Or if you go too fast and it happens more than everything on the route
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  that you put a pebble on the wheel, it takes you flying down the
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  curve, then wheels away and once on the cycleway passed us a super funny
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  And here, on one of the bridges of the twenty- six that we
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  and my dad are running my sister Patines lugo skates and I don' t
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  know why we climb the bridge And at the time of lowering the bridge at
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  twelve o' clock we were given to throw us off those bridges that has
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  the square curve And I mean, we don' t think about it,
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  we throw ourselves and already launched us it was like and now how we'
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  re going to brake. And my dad goes ahead and the two of us
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  was just like eight or because we couldn' t stop anymore, they knew
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  they were leaving here. And my dad literally just did the same thing.
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  But one comes with a lot of strength. He caught me, but from
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  the force I lifted him up in the air and the callus at the beginning
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  and my sister did slip. But it' s not a empatination, it
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  falls a lot. In addition, there are also between Sundays, for example,
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  that say that making funds, then they take you to one, to
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  small towns to make some ascents en route or something. And because it'
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  s always like the bread of every day jail I almost not here in Bogotá,
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  I don' t know now that I think about it. I hardly
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  see skaters on the road, that is, in groups, but yes,
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  that is encyclovia, no, but they agree. I' m guessing the
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  cars pass and the skates pass. And then the politicos go to themselves and
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  they also make ascents like that on skates. I mean, yes, I
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  got to have training in ascents with skates and it' s like already,
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  a very specific training, as for strength, yes, and as for power,
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  as focusing on resistance to force and making that kind of capabilities. Yeah,
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  because let' s say running one can do costs for itself, what
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  you say specific power work can be, but you tie that power up in
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  the gym or how you earn it. A lot of work is done with
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  explosive work. In addition, work is also done on the outside of the
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  track with boards. It' s a board that' s like acetate,
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  as it' s very critical, yes, like acrylic, that and you
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  put on a cloth shoe and then you work there. More than anything,
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  you start working the technique that you will then translate into specific exercises with power
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  skates. So, for example, you have the table and it' s
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  pure power and you slide from one side to the other, and then that
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  allows you to as you' re not moving. It allows you to focus
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  more on the technique of movement. Wow, what new things, yes,
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  star Win Cherve and you didn' t know static work there more than all
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  about technique. But if you' re moving and let' s say for
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  power, you work a lot, for example, in gymnasium, with a
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  lot of weight, little repeated, but very explosive or very explosive, and
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  you finish the series of specific strength work and you have to translate it at
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  once. Then you make some transfer to translate the force at once and it
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  becomes expressive, then you work explosive movements, like for example the drawer,
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  which is a typical, you put a drawer, you have the bar and
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  you start making explosive movements with the OK weight. Yes we have only done
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  if that is the cabon, but no, I mean, there is someone
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  else where ion we had a skating group and that is to train very vast
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  well, it passes a lot of weight, very much if they drive all
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  marked curds, it seems that they were not skaters and we were hycicultured.
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  All skaters are super- legged and a hundred super- good. In Cerranos
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  that skate parenthesis because that' s where you decide to give up skating.
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  Yeah, hang out for a year. Yeah, I spent a year doing
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  nothing, because let' s say what happens is that I grew up at
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  the table, too, because my grandparents live there. And then it was
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  like the school day was always over and they came to pick us up and
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  let' s go to the table. Then I was always very close to
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  the mountain that then becomes like the road I started to take ok because I,
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  well, I was a year without doing anything, but then it arrives
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  well, I fulfill twelve and it arrives to trail mountain range that is like
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  one of the most emblematic races that Colombia has and is one of the hardest
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  races. Then it is a race that has two distances, ten and twenty
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  - one, but only as it ascends, it starts in San Antonio,
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  the Tequendama and arrives at the chicaque park then let' s say what it
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  is said that the ten can be even harder than the twenty- one,
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  because both start in the same place, ending in the same place. But,
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  of course, the ten has the accumulated unevenness in less clear distance,
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  so, it is a very emblematic race and for that race my dad and
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  my grandmother had signed up with my uncle, but I didn' t really
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  know what was going on with me. They just told me to look tomorrow
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  We' re going to see each other and they' re coming after us.
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  I just got dressed. I got in the car to sleep, but
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  you didn' t ask. I mean, it' s already Cortida'
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  s dad. Obviously, yes, they don' t pick us up anymore,
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  but they do plan more or less. And that' s the irony,
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  because we get to the village and mountain range has something. You get
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  to the race and everybody' s gonna tell you. You' re going
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  to get it really hard, suffer omo with the climb, and I mean,
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  they' re going to scare you in the exit, they' re
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  going to scare you. Yeah, and then of course they started saying that
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  to my grandmother and it was like what we do. Sobela' s leaving.
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  They' re regretting it. Yes, they were repenting and it was
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  no longer possible to go alone who goes with her, who was the only
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  one who had sports clothes of that day, was already the only one who
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  had clothes. But if you could leave, it' s years a career.
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  It was the best way to lose them both, yes, yes,
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  there was no idea what the team was, no, but you were a
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  sportsman, that is, yes, well, and they didn' t go
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  like a year that didn' t have a specific sport, but yes,
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  my dad was always like taking us on the cycleway. Let' s go
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  do such a thing then, like there was always as an activity, but
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  that year we hadn' t had any specific sport. So it was like
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  good to her and she starts the race and it starts to happen to us,
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  like a lot of people and like I' ve always been very competitive
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  too. Then people start to happen to us and it was already like ay,
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  but faster. Oh, but my grandmother' s got it and I
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  ' m not that fast they' re happening to us, I don'
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  t know what. And she came to a bridge where it was like ay,
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  look go away and don' t get lost, follow the tapes,
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  but where it gets lost and I didn' t rip. From there up,
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  like the mountain was always facilitated to me precisely because I grew up and
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  in the tasca the twenty- one ten married, the ten the ten canturo.
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  Yeah, well, let' s say, they both have their own
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  thing, but the ten k so is pretty sure. Let' s say
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  that that' s ten K with one thousand eight hundred ten on a positive
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  level. It' s not just her crying things next. That' s
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  like three times no yes, like three times non- brutal courtyards and you
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  go through the thermal floors, because you start in heat and end up in
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  a beautiful forest and fog. Ah Girl who has a forest, fog to
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  the dino, yes and it' s super cold, Girl who is wet
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  cold, but you start in the heat of San Antoniel Te Ken Drama,
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  i e, it' s amazing or hey yes, I hadn' t
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  thought and once into the fog forest and I got lost to my older brother
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  and I' m lost like three hours there in Chica. And it'
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  s just that everything looks the same. Yeah, everything doesn' t matter,
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  everything looks the same. And then, I mean, for those who
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  don' t know St Antonio Teken Dama is going well vianicitas and yes it
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  ' s just like one ends mondoñedo yes, it happens mondoñedo and there'
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  s the variant to go to San Antonio, The tecken dama aha this manu
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  the jump and all this yes, yes and there yes it is, yes,
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  it is hot, because that corregimiento, I think it' s a
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  coregiamiento, it' s very hot and go up to the fog forest,
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  where it' s very cold. Yes or what you say that change there
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  climate hits yes, of course, because it' s a thousand eight hundred
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  difference uff then it' s that you just come on the mountain, because
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  because of the table, because it' s already on the table. Yeah,
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  and she did mountain exercises, too. Yeah, let' s say
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  I went out for a long walk with my grandmother or we ran a lot
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  like on the mountain with the dogs. Let' s say it was an
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  egg- producing farm then like one was all the time running on one side,
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  running on the other, going to know such a hill or whatever.
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  But tell me what it means. That' s when you make the reference,
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  you were trailing when you didn' t know it was the trail.
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  Aha then and then one realizes that it is quite a sport. Then let
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  ' s say that that' s why it was made easier for me.
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  Well, count it out. Then you took it yourself, it gets good
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  and you carry yourself alone or you get it. He started reaching people yes
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  and I loved him, I mean, I fell in love with the trail
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  from day zero yes and let' s say what one ends up ah good.
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  One thing that happens with the train is that it is a sport that
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  is growing, for example, the sport after the fero until last year.
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  So it' s a sport that doesn' t have, for example,
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  seedlings, which is very important for a sport to grow. So, in
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  that edition, if it is right now, very few children run. In
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  that edition there were suddenly no children yet only one boy, who has always
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  been very reference in the country, but there was no one else. And
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  then, like, clear the logistics team, like he started saying, there
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  ' s a girl like there' s a girl running. So, when
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  I was getting to the finish line in the videos and the whole King,
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  who is the organizer of the race, he was no longer going to receive
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  the only girl running the race. We' re going to receive her with
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  how I was laundry, I didn' t have numbers, okay, but
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  he was doing as he is simulating. Yeah, like animation, like to
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  be able to suddenly bring in maybe more people, so that this kind of
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  paste a little bit more. But let' s say I was very sorry
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  and it was very funny because I arrived, I ran towards the goal,
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  but he was like we don' t get the applause, I don'
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  t know what. And there they were like the fences. And then the
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  bow came and before I got to the fences, like I came running for
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  tea from the center and one moment to another fer I greet myself and I
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  get lost among the people and I eat it comes and comes and it comes
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  and it' s done And yes and it was like good, we'
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  re still here with I don' t know what. And that was very
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  funny and but that you didn' t finish, that is, you already
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  felt sorry to come to it. Yeah, I' m sorry to pass
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  the goal, but nothing if you numbered, I mean, you were clear
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  that you were laundry and you weren' t going to pass the goal.
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  Yeah, yeah, no. And in the videos that were like that or
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  the photos that the photographers took they noticed one comes running and then others.
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  That' s the picture where I' m missing among the people out there
• 21:06
  walking and no, because tell me what that time he approached us and told
• 21:10
  us like we were, yes, I had run before and there we said
• 21:15
  no, because it' s the first time and he told him my celebrities
• 21:18
  as good, because they give me if he likes and we see each other
• 21:22
  in another race and there it was like that later, like that it was
• 21:27
  left to talk about CORDILLERA I stayed liking it, but because I don'
• 21:32
  t know what came to me like nothing and very funny, because then one
• 21:34
  day, my wave came to our house seven in the morning, one Sunday
• 21:38
  I was sleeping and I hadn' t even warned that I was going to
• 21:44
  the house to hit and it was like, hello, but what happened and
• 21:48
  not to wake up my room and it was like she didn' t list
• 21:52
  yes that we were going to the League to Bogotá and I already knew where
• 21:52
  I was going. He brought me the clue to the saltpetre and it was
• 21:59
  like there he had a seedlings and then he got me in, he found
• 22:02
  out. I wrote at the seedling club in Bogotá and so in one day,
• 22:07
  I mean, he just went to pick me up one day in the
• 22:08
  morning at the house and I asked you or anything. Don' t finish
• 22:12
  the artist written in a Seed of San Yo I believe already your tism in
• 22:15
  general yes, without specific sports. Yeah, there' s not one starts
• 22:21
  with everything we say good. For example, right now I' ve already
• 22:26
  been a little bit more for you too, because I' m a sports
• 22:29
  graduate, I' ve been able to learn a lot more than when you
• 22:32
  ' re in the childhood stage. It is very important for the child to
• 22:33
  go through all possible disciplines to develop all the driving factors, as many infact
• 22:40
  motors as possible. So, of course, you get to this kind of
• 22:45
  seedling and it' s like I go through everything that I foresee a little
• 22:48
  bit of everything. Then I go into the seedling and you always get into
• 22:52
  athletics and everybody wants to run speed. Everyone wants to be a relacist.
• 22:56
  Yeah, it' s like what gets the most attention. So I tore
• 23:00
  up there, but I tore up multiple tests. I started competing in the
• 23:04
  Tatlon ok. Then I went through everything. I mean, the only thing
• 23:10
  I missed was to throw hammer, no, Martinez makes them, it'
• 23:14
  s not scary and the record throws once and almost took the man out of
• 23:17
  me then, but I tried. But and he shoots that yes, because
• 23:22
  that one does part of the leptathlon ah ok tests and to what are the
• 23:26
  pits of the toton and UF went to rope me, but they were good,
• 23:33
  because for the youth category, well you have to run a flat speed.
• 23:37
  One of fences. You make long jump, high jump, bullet throw,
• 23:42
  javelin throw and you do a nut claw bottom test, eh no.
• 23:48
  That' s not part of it either, and it' s true.
• 23:52
  There you would already be on the seven islands yes, with the background yes
• 23:55
  a background and a background test is done, then you somas points in all
• 23:59
  the distance in all the trials and the person who wins the most points And
• 24:03
  if there were children' s tournaments or you participated in some pocial tournament,
• 24:10
  I competed for Bogotá, that as Bogotá selection being youthful and I reached to
• 24:15
  compete a national in Cali that had been carried out and at that time there
• 24:21
  was the TAC project, which is the talent of Colombian athletics and on the
• 24:26
  part of the seedling, And why the distritals and others competed, for at
• 24:30
  that time I had been part of the TAC as such and how they gave
• 24:34
  you the tests, that is, what was your weakest point in those seven.
• 24:37
  I feel that tatlon is that like when you say the traatlon that says
• 24:41
  I' m not perfect at any, but how is it that it'
• 24:45
  s saying that I' m like I' m not the best at any,
• 24:49
  but I' m good at all. Or something like that. I
• 24:52
  think I did, too, because I was having a lot of fun,
• 24:55
  that is, throwing javelins. I saw yes, it was done to me,
• 24:57
  that is, the truth. You' re a kid and you'
• 24:59
  re coming, just as you get, you' ve got me all upset
• 25:02
  about what' s more to get married than I don' t know what.
• 25:03
  So they' re really funny evidence. Yeah, plus, I think
• 25:06
  the issue of being able to grow up in community is very important, and
• 25:11
  that cheers you up. In addition, it develops many things, as well
• 25:15
  as in your social sphere. So I was having a lot of fun.
• 25:19
  But, for example, I' ve never been too fast, but more
• 25:26
  resilient. So, I kind of suddenly had a good power to get out
• 25:30
  thanks to skating. So, I was kind of doing well on the flats,
• 25:36
  but in those of the prejuvenile, which are shorter, which were about
• 25:37
  80 meters, sixty zero. Yes, yes, since right now I want
• 25:41
  to compete a hundred meters with those of the league, because obviously they are
• 25:45
  going to leave me boot design, but yes, I really liked the speed
• 25:49
  and I liked the long jump, very much, the super long jump as
• 25:56
  far as gens jump there or I arrived as I saw no, but because
• 26:00
  I had, I mean, it was so much and the maximum was like
• 26:04
  a four or something that that' s nothing, but four men, I
• 26:07
  mean, for me to jump four meters of that and the long jump,
• 26:11
  I mean, it' s not triple and it' s not clear,
• 26:17
  I don' t imagine the tall one was also very funny, exactly fun.
• 26:17
  Me when he went out to college too and jumped high and how much
• 26:21
  he jumped. I don' t remember, like everyone else. I don
• 26:22
  ' t remember, because that was more than anything to evaluate the technique.
• 26:26
  I mean, it wasn' t that important to jump, but to do
• 26:29
  it right, that is, to do good technique. Yeah, but never.
• 26:32
  I never jumped with a stick and never lied about javelin, so I
• 26:37
  threw it. But that' s super hard, that' s to keep
• 26:38
  him nailed. No, that' s hard. Yeah, he' s
• 26:42
  got his technique. Yeah, that' s got his technique. Cr throws
• 26:44
  up, not more or less like forty- five gifts. Yeah, tell
• 26:48
  me that you grab the javelin and put it on and the tip of the
• 26:52
  javelin fits pretty much in your face, but the tail can' t go
• 26:56
  too far down. If you don' t take it a little bit,
• 27:02
  you run with your hand to the front, you run first cross, then,
• 27:06
  i e, you run off from the front, then you cross it
• 27:11
  and at the end of it you do the body and throw the javelin and
• 27:15
  the javelin in the air make the curve to fall nailed down. It'
• 27:15
  s not hard. There' s a way you need to go to bed.
• 27:18
  It' s not about gravity. It doesn' t always help him
• 27:22
  bury himself. Not if you throw it wrong that it falls to bed.
• 27:25
  And that' s when it' s needed. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 27:29
  you don' t know, but yeah, yeah. The album also
• 27:30
  plays with the distals. It' s complicated, yeah, it' s
• 27:34
  complicated, but it' s fun. Yeah, it' s fun learning
• 27:37
  it and you liked Juan you lasted there. I was there for about two
• 27:41
  years, but then I stopped doing Ptatlon and sat more in the semi-
• 27:45
  fund. Then I was in the prejuvenile running two thousand meters that there I
• 27:52
  was running for Bogotá as a youth. And then, uh, well,
• 27:57
  that same year, after the sun chord thing, I was running track.
• 28:02
  But anyway it' s not the trail, like after there was a race
• 28:04
  that was called ascent between clouds, that was made in the south and that
• 28:11
  was as officially, my first race in life, that was also a race
• 28:14
  about ten kilometers, that was done there in itself to me at the same
• 28:19
  two years you had, yes, it was that same year. It'
• 28:23
  s super funny,' cause I, I mean, a little flea with
• 28:26
  a shirt that comes up to me like this and running there are obvious pictures.
• 28:30
  Yeah, it' s our turn. No later he sends pictures that
• 28:33
  put the year of the video and also arrives it. You have to send
• 28:38
  a consent part twelve years, a podcast, yes, but not good.
• 28:44
  Ready from that one in the mountain range. There' s a running photo
• 28:47
  that does. I' ve got a photo running and I' d check
• 28:52
  if they found the one on arrival, but the one you miss when I
• 28:56
  get a light in the truth, yes, and how they offend you in
• 29:00
  the clouds. That time I won the winning race. Yes, they were
• 29:04
  in the general category, had been left on the podium and of all ages.
• 29:07
  Then it was how I heard it could work, because a little girl
• 29:14
  beats all the people. Yes, because that was a companion of a race
• 29:18
  called Kiva ascent, which as they became kiva and that race they gave a
• 29:26
  place to run closure without Alita and a Dix in Switzerland that closes synals like
• 29:30
  the most iconic race, the train, it is like of the oldest carts
• 29:33
  there is and all that is to run trail is like a dream to run
• 29:37
  a kind of race. This type and then is one of the most professional
• 29:41
  faces, because it is part of the circuit of the balls between the series.
• 29:45
  Then there run the best runs in the world. Then they were a
• 29:48
  foundation and they filled the winners of the race so they could take them to
• 29:53
  run representing Colombia. Then Kiva got promoted and she left and I wanted the
• 30:00
  prize in the general category and I run the race and I win it.
• 30:04
  And it' s like, and they look like what we do with this
• 30:07
  little girl. Yeah, that same year the mother did, yeah, I
• 30:11
  did. It was that year that I didn' t get the quota.
• 30:14
  Then at fourteen he comes back and I win it. I have the photo
• 30:18
  with the little thing that says how you earned a quota for Tyon Tixen and
• 30:23
  if you recinnate in Switzerland, but they tell us how not to look.
• 30:26
  We gave it to you, but we can' t take you, because
• 30:32
  for the permits and for a lot of things, because the prize was intended
• 30:36
  for bigger ideas. What he says out alone if not with the parents.
• 30:38
  Anyway, there are no more travel permits or I don' t know we
• 30:42
  ' re going to leave her allowed underage exact or no yes, like obviously
• 30:47
  she wasn' t expected to be schooled. She was a kid in the
• 30:49
  race. It' s your turn to go where it' s getting too
• 30:55
  little today and I' m going to go and laugh and I' ll
• 30:56
  figure out if I' m going out. This is due to read in
• 30:57
  two places, because soon it was sent to her and then, at fourteen
• 31:03
  years old, you win her again and mercupo, but I came back it
• 31:07
  ' s like we can' t take you, because, because you didn
• 31:11
  ' t expect a girl to win the race. But let' s just
• 31:15
  say that that' s when it starts to happen as the theme can work
• 31:21
  and then I saw in the merl traitor, which is like a also the
• 31:23
  biggest carts here. Then that year it was made in Zipaquirá that it ran
• 31:29
  inside the Salt mine and inside the mincer. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 31:33
  the one that was was super iconic that race and all lit up and so
• 31:40
  forth and it was like a mile and a half or so going through the
• 31:42
  salt mine and a crazy wow. Yes, and that race there already,
• 31:48
  that race won me too, which was third in the general of all ages
• 31:53
  and won me in the youth. And so let' s say what was
• 31:59
  like a well, like a chevere, because it was like the one for
• 32:04
  Colombia and the two girls who were left in two and three were, if
• 32:07
  I' m not bad, like from the Netherlands, like something like that,
• 32:09
  they were foreigners. Wow, and it was like very chevere. There
• 32:13
  is again that race again the organization, the same person who organizes trail mountain
• 32:19
  range then already in fifth year yes, I met you, recognized yes then
• 32:23
  there as they already had it when redoing. And there it was, like
• 32:28
  then comes trail mountain range from the other year and I do write and now
• 32:35
  they were part of the race and let' s say it here at the
• 32:39
  start, like it already greets us. But it was like a we see
• 32:44
  ourselves up there, because just like when you' re crooked in the organization
• 32:47
  of the race, like there' s a lot of eagerness, a lot
• 32:49
  of everything. So, as the race goes by and in the mountain range
• 32:54
  of that year, I also earn the youth category of that step to the
• 33:00
  podium and already after the race, he already looks for us and tells us
• 33:05
  as he looks, we would like to support you and it will already take
• 33:09
  you as in everything that can help you the most. He organized almost every
• 33:13
  trail face, or many of the train faces that are made in Colombia.
• 33:16
  Then it starts as if to support me on the subject of running the train
• 33:20
  carts and that' s why I stay like inside the sport and starts to
• 33:25
  run a lot of trail, because let' s say what the track did
• 33:31
  like, but it made me bored. Yeah, yeah, round the same
• 33:35
  side, round the same side, while on the mountain you take a curve
• 33:38
  and change the whole picture. Yeah, super and the mountain is impresible.
• 33:44
  The mountain from one moment to another, changes only in dogs that moment so
• 33:47
  yes, and that the change, the climate, that is, can be
• 33:52
  the same mountain, but today it will not be the same as tomorrow.
• 33:55
  And the mountain has something that is very magical, as well as the theme
• 34:00
  of being able to be hours and hours and hours running. It' s
• 34:06
  amazing, because I was never a very fast run. It' s never
• 34:08
  been an email It was too fast. So let' s say that when
• 34:10
  I went on the juven and on the track I started to suffer because it
• 34:14
  wasn' t too fast. Also because let' s say I have my
• 34:20
  hip, I don' t mean, I have like my knee turned to
• 34:22
  one side, so everybody' s face is like that and mine is like
• 34:23
  that. Then when I run my leg comes out, when the little girl
• 34:27
  came out a lot more. Let' s say what, obviously, I
• 34:30
  can run, but you know that when you' re at the performance,
• 34:36
  you' re looking for perfection and anything counts and because that' s not
• 34:40
  very, it' s not very perfect, then you get out and then
• 34:46
  yes and it' s like mesor relive, because nothing more energy spending,
• 34:52
  just like then no, like when you look for perfection in performance, let
• 34:58
  ' s say it left me like out on subjects that I wasn' t
• 35:02
  so dynamic when you ran and I was never a very fast jog, but
• 35:07
  I could last hours, running hours, running hours walking whatever it was then,
• 35:12
  when I discovered that in the trailer there was that kind of testing,
• 35:13
  I started to really like it. And but who was left in that process,
• 35:17
  in that good process I, for what I swore with the seedling.
• 35:22
  Later I started training for trail with a coach who, then I kind of
• 35:29
  was very renowned inside the trail. But let' s just say it'
• 35:35
  s not a gross mistake, which he didn' t have as a title
• 35:37
  as such as a coach. Or yes, then I kind of inside the
• 35:43
  trill, like with that there was a lot of controversy around, because maybe
• 35:47
  the deal wasn' t very human with the runners he was driving but because
• 35:51
  he had like at that time the top that all of his emails were the
• 35:54
  best. So he, in fact, winning mountain range three, contacted us
• 35:58
  and, as I want to train clearly, he had the people that to
• 36:01
  me were my idols at the time that you saw them and you won all
• 36:06
  the races and it was like oh that I want to train with them.
• 36:08
  So I start training with them and let' s say what he then guided
• 36:15
  as my treil training process, like those two years I took from about thirteen
• 36:21
  to fifteen, and it was a top, that' s how it burst
• 36:24
  out like between him that ran. I was doing really well running trail.
• 36:30
  Let' s say what it was like to race all the time they invited
• 36:36
  you to be able to tell things, because it was also weird that there
• 36:42
  were kids running and with the theme of being able to invite more children to
• 36:45
  come to the sport, to promote a sport that is new, that is,
• 36:51
  the sport trailer is as it is about thirteen years old here in my
• 36:52
  country. So it' s a very new sport, and that' s
• 36:58
  why we' re way behind Europe. So, then, it' s
• 37:00
  kind of trying to boost the sport a lot and it' s starting to
• 37:05
  go really well running, for example, in the trail, the tray is
• 37:09
  like it' s qualified, like it' s getting carried away by the
• 37:15
  itra that I' m running after as the International Organization of Trai RUNING.
• 37:15
  Then the races that are official. If you are a racing organizer and you
• 37:20
  want your career to enter the itra, you pass as what is your route
• 37:25
  as the route of your races, and they qualify them depending on the level
• 37:31
  of difficulty of the route, the place and everything, because let' s
• 37:36
  say you run a four hundred. Here, you run a four hundred in
• 37:38
  Europe and it' s the same four hundred then, like the mark you
• 37:43
  can have standard, of course, but you run on this mountain, on
• 37:45
  the eastern hills, you run in the Swiss Alps. It' s not
• 37:47
  the same, because the different conditions, the climate, the terrain, everything
• 37:53
  is different. So it' s a very difficult sport to classify. Sure,
• 37:57
  then you run your career and they analyze it and give your career a
• 38:00
  score. Like if they' re called the stones, what they' re
• 38:07
  called the stones, ah Golde among the goal feries. Yeah, that'
• 38:10
  s why they' re classified as the Montland s volta a trade and this
• 38:15
  is. That' s more or less related to what others do to us
• 38:19
  all, because let' s say what happens to the trail, something similar
• 38:22
  that happens to basketball, which, for example, in the NBA gives you
• 38:29
  more prestige than the world championship. And let' s say what happens in
• 38:31
  the trail very much like being the winner of the gold Entre Series tea more
• 38:36
  prestige that will be the world champion ok En, because he has his world
• 38:39
  championship. But let' s say what when it comes to how they sound
• 38:45
  in the world, usually the winner of the last Golden trailer is more like
• 38:51
  the wash as because if he says that the goldens are made to crown the
• 38:53
  king the queen of the trailer in the year, then there are a national
• 39:00
  gold Between series, like the national series that are in certain countries, and
• 39:06
  then the winners win a goal in ticket. That goal in ticket allows you
• 39:07
  to run one of the golds between series and, depending on your performance,
• 39:14
  they allow you to continue competing as in those races and add the scores and
• 39:19
  then they get out as if I' m not bad, there are thirty
• 39:22
  women, thirty men who compete the final, who chose a place in the
• 39:28
  world and competed about three days, who add up the competitions and take out
• 39:34
  the winner of the year. Yeah, that' s if they' re
• 39:37
  pretty organized, that' s if they reach the best definitely. Yeah,
• 39:40
  and it' s not just the winner of the circuit, that is,
• 39:44
  for example, you' re already in the finals. But not only is
• 39:46
  there one winner, but there is one winner per segment. Then there'
• 39:52
  s a winner coming down. So, every day there' s a segment
• 39:57
  with tip down point, yes, exactly. Okay, so who' s
• 40:00
  the best going down, the fastest, because there' s a part that
• 40:04
  ' s taken as half flat and the best going up And already the general
• 40:12
  winner, I feel severe that it' s like to be there you have
• 40:15
  to have money. Yes, because it' s time to be traveling around
• 40:17
  countries, through races in all countries and looking for their golden tic that,
• 40:22
  well, let' s say that those who already run that kind of races
• 40:27
  are because they' re already sponsored by the brands that carry them, because
• 40:30
  that' s quite a show. Let' s say what it is that
• 40:32
  the trailer in Europe and let' s say it in the United States and
• 40:38
  Asia is too strong, too strong and the brands support it too much.
• 40:39
  So let' s say what there is there is the possibility that the runners
• 40:44
  already live from that literally that we know that here is like impossible, that
• 40:49
  total, yes, difficult. I feel like people running or good, I
• 40:52
  don' t know if they' re going to say a gross pardon.
• 40:54
  Yeah, and I say people running normal street. If you want to improve
• 41:00
  your times, I just don' t know how to say it. If
• 41:05
  you want, if you want to improve your times, but you get into
• 41:07
  the trail and you go in a race, you don' t know how
• 41:10
  long you' re going to do. I mean, you don' t
• 41:13
  know that' s because it' s uncertain. It' s because suddenly
• 41:15
  you don' t want to get better, but it' s uncertain.
• 41:17
  I mean, let' s say one knows that the forty- two meters
• 41:21
  are moderately flat, the forty- two kilometers and you see is improving your
• 41:25
  time, but that they tell you forty- two kilometers in mountain you don
• 41:28
  ' t know that you will find if total and then they say it'
• 41:30
  s not that you write me a trail race then I don' t know
• 41:32
  I mean. I' m saying it' s my ignorance. We don
• 41:35
  ' t see it as so serious because they say no aside, but it
• 41:37
  ' s that the pace came out to eight to nine, then nice.
• 41:40
  I mean, yeah, that' s what I think of three, but
• 41:45
  we also have a guest who would tell us that and I' d say
• 41:49
  it once in my life. I want to prepare a marathon to know what
• 41:52
  level I have on the street, because it must be, you don'
• 41:54
  t have a lot of windows, you have a lot of strength. Here
• 41:55
  was Waquín Joaquin qing us the good one here not, but it is Orian
• 42:02
  Ecuadorian. Everything we had to say before the command was explained and it'
• 42:06
  s not like wow. That' s a world and he told us all
• 42:09
  that I thought a lot about street mail, because if you mean, if
• 42:13
  you tend to very much dismitate the treino corridor the rhythms, but it'
• 42:17
  s not how it comes, run come and you go you see me and
• 42:22
  it happened because I said it sent me. When I started about two years
• 42:25
  ago, I' d be doing loads of trail and saying ready and half
• 42:30
  a marathon. Then I entered, that is, into my ignorance and looked
• 42:34
  at the country I nine and I no bad king, when already later I
• 42:37
  began to learn and look at it artimetry and I sha mari who is more
• 42:42
  a beast or n a madness. Yeah, well, he' s a
• 42:46
  lot of three. It happened to him that a partner that is twenty-
• 42:52
  four kilometers and did almost four and I four hours in twenty- four thousand
• 42:58
  six and I said as well that he likes that tell us a little bit
• 43:04
  about what training is like. Come in, because in rolling we want it
• 43:07
  you don' t go to the track, repeat, repeat suddenly background,
• 43:12
  how it is between, lights also go into the street or how it is
• 43:15
  Things yes let' s say what they are, in fact, very similar.
• 43:16
  People tend to have the bad belief that if I run mountain, I
• 43:20
  ' m just going to be on the mountain and, in fact, practically
• 43:22
  don' t touch the mountain much when you have structure, a training plan,
• 43:28
  because it' s still very necessary to work all the skills, because
• 43:31
  it' s still running. So, for example, we just keep working,
• 43:36
  that the funds, the planes that I work, there' s resistance
• 43:40
  to speed. Works for both aeroic and aneroic work, both in plane and
• 43:47
  mountain. But yes, it is true that there is also a lot of
• 43:51
  work on the issue of force, because the mountain, unlike the street,
• 43:54
  happens a lot when a run of street passes to the mountain, which usually
• 43:58
  passes many injuries, many pains or is muscle compensation, because of the issue
• 44:01
  that different muscle groups are working. So, that' s why Treinl'
• 44:07
  s running is as strong as it is, because muscle groups are different.
• 44:12
  Of course, then you do have to work the mountain more than anything for
• 44:16
  technical aspects, because it usually happens a lot that if your body is very
• 44:21
  used, only to running here in plane where, then, there is nothing,
• 44:23
  there is no pebble, nor nothing you will twist the tobello is the
• 44:28
  carajas. No, that' s how you can. Yeah, ainadita where
• 44:31
  they can' t fall depends on us delicate. It just always happens that
• 44:36
  and it' s ironic and it' s been a long time that running
• 44:39
  streets like hell isn' t, but this is very easy and they go
• 44:44
  and end up with Travis' s good. Yeah, that would be me
• 44:47
  easily or then I wouldn' t. You' re gonna be talking,
• 44:51
  so there' s training. Let' s say how many times a month
• 44:53
  you' re going to do mountain work specifically. Let' s say what
• 44:57
  you can be, depending on what part of the training you' re doing,
• 45:01
  you' re in specific work already or if you' re suddenly in
• 45:06
  the general stage and depending on how much accessibility to the mountain you have,
• 45:12
  because, for example, if you' re not right now you have to
• 45:15
  be in Bogotá because you' re studying, working and so on, because
• 45:17
  suddenly already because of accessibility issues, you can' t go to the mountain
• 45:21
  much, but then, at least, you can go once to the mountain
• 45:24
  to recover like that part, both of strength and technical work. Also,
• 45:27
  obviously, all sports are strategy. Then you have to go see how you
• 45:30
  ' re going to play strategy, what your strengths are. Say it like
• 45:35
  that. I don' t go up very well, but I' m
• 45:37
  very good at going down. I can earn a race by going down,
• 45:39
  because if the other person doesn' t go down well and gives him mine
• 45:43
  to go down, I can earn it by going down. Wow, so
• 45:45
  it' s starting to play with those aspects that you have and being able
• 45:52
  to start seeing how you' re going to play it in the races,
• 45:54
  depending on the strategy you' re going to use. So, that'
• 45:57
  s also why it' s necessary to go to your playing field, so
• 46:01
  go and analyze how you' re going to start and that the trailer unlike
• 46:06
  the mountain, right on the street, just for the hours, depending on
• 46:09
  how far you use the equipment is different and that you start having to carry
• 46:15
  more weight. For example, you don' t see someone on the street
• 46:17
  suddenly running marathon with a backpack on them. You run with your belt,
• 46:22
  your sports nutrition and already but on the mountain you see them loaded. And
• 46:27
  that, obviously, makes a very big impact, because it' s like
• 46:30
  how much weight I' m going to carry those hundred grams more make a
• 46:36
  maximum difference. Then you also have to start seeing strategies for what things do
• 46:39
  serve me and what things not and strategically I' m going to carry,
• 46:43
  what I' m going to eat. If it rains, if it doesn
• 46:45
  ' t rain, if my career comes out at 3: 00 in the
• 46:50
  morning, if you want me it comes out at midnight, then what is
• 46:53
  the team I' m going to use and which one serves me, because,
• 46:59
  for example, there are people who get too hot. If you carry
• 47:00
  the backpack, then you have to play the different one with another hydration system.
• 47:06
  How much the suitcase weighs, then train with that weight or else,
• 47:08
  in the race you will do nothing. We asked Joaquín that just last time,
• 47:13
  because he gave us some classes. There tril because we don' t
• 47:16
  know anything and it was you guys hear you just said you' re going
• 47:22
  with a weight in the competition when you train in your funds. They don
• 47:24
  ' t train with a similar weight. That was a question. And the
• 47:28
  other one is the shoes. The shoes they wear when they' re on
• 47:31
  the street are different from those on the mountain or they try to train them
• 47:36
  from the mountains in some jobs here on the streets. What happens with mountain
• 47:38
  shoes is that the sole of mountain shoes is designed different from street shoes.
• 47:45
  It is a flater and more rigid footwear, precisely because it seeks to withstand
• 47:51
  both the grip and the terrain of the mountain. So it' s a
• 47:54
  very rigid shoe. And if you use it and heavier, if you use
• 47:59
  it on the street, it can give you an inflammation of the floor that
• 48:02
  can give you a plantar fasciitis then because the footwear is not designed for that
• 48:08
  and precisely because it has like tachicitos. Yeah, so that, that all
• 48:15
  bothers the foot when it comes to running in the street. I mean,
• 48:19
  just to compete, just for the mountain, just for the mountain, just
• 48:22
  to have guavas on the exact tape, that is, the difference next.
• 48:27
  But I mean, yeah, but footballers also understand with the eggs in good.
• 48:31
  Yeah, yeah, let' s say it yourself. If we say
• 48:36
  right now we' re going to run on a mountain, we' re
• 48:39
  going to take our train shoes, because it' s going to serve you
• 48:44
  a lot on the subject of gripping stability and so on in the mountain.
• 48:45
  Then the specific intruders. If they serve in the adaptation of the foot to
• 48:50
  the shoe, because, then, you are doing almost all the training with
• 48:53
  shoes that are not mountain. I mean, if I make myself understood,
• 48:57
  let' s just say no. No. No. It' s not
• 49:00
  like as significant as it has footwear you wear, like, for example,
• 49:05
  when a track runs with normal tendi that one normally trains in the normal content
• 49:09
  series, but in the competition runs with spikes, yes as if one does
• 49:15
  test them, one adapts to the footwear. But then when it comes to
• 49:20
  running as you' re going to use it in the conditions where the shoe
• 49:25
  works for the way it' s designed, then it' s perfect for
• 49:29
  you. I have two questions before going into the subject to another topic that
• 49:34
  we find super interesting and it' s the first thing, how much is
• 49:39
  the maximum distance you' ve run. A king enters training fifty kilometers,
• 49:44
  competing forty- two fifty kilometers. That' s what the race was here.
• 49:49
  That was a training, a training like a crossing we had once made
• 49:54
  for a fund. And the marathon did go from sea to science, ah
• 50:00
  from nine to last so much more, but it' s games. There
• 50:04
  are forty- eight kilometers, not forty- two. Yeah, that year.
• 50:07
  The thing is, now she' s changed. It used to run
• 50:08
  in, run very close to the road. Now he runs in the park,
• 50:15
  the tairona aha. Yeah, so the distance changed. And the other
• 50:19
  question is in the trail you walk, that is, in some moments you
• 50:22
  play. Walk in three, walk in three, walk in three and sometimes
• 50:25
  walk is harder than run. Yeah, yeah, that' s when it
• 50:30
  was the difference between trekking. Also king is the walk. And that is,
• 50:34
  let' s say what a combination of things is. When it comes
• 50:37
  to walking, the truth is like when the body asks you, because many
• 50:42
  times there are very steep ascents that the truth over muscle load is going to
• 50:49
  work for you walk faster than run and you sometimes see people trying to ride
• 50:53
  up, but someone happens to you walking much faster. Okay, so come
• 50:59
  back and play strategy, because, for example, I walk very slow,
• 51:02
  I think too slow. I am never going to use that strategy to come
• 51:07
  back, yes, that hasn' t helped me, but I sometimes try
• 51:10
  to run that someone spends it all walking and there are people who are very
• 51:15
  stubborn, walk too hard for that then come back and play learning to know
• 51:19
  you well and what your strengths are and how you' re going to use
• 51:22
  them. But in the back you do walk and more than anything, for
• 51:24
  example, in the ultra distance and from there to there you start walking a
• 51:30
  lot and it is already hours management and it is a very mental sport.
• 51:34
  Yeah, sure, I' ll ask you how much faster you get.
• 51:37
  Oh, cut it out. I don' t have it, because before,
• 51:44
  when you put it that two years ago, if we made entrances in
• 51:47
  mons rate go up three times, four times close of jet. And it
• 51:50
  ' s like the second has to be faster than the first, the third
• 51:53
  faster than the second. And so I came looking for brand. But once
• 52:04
  we went a long time ago on a Sunday, terrible mistake and we went
• 52:07
  a long time ago on Sundays and well, we went up well, but
• 52:13
  going down it was very full. He played it down too slow and then,
• 52:16
  like, because it was slowing down and because it was so long,
• 52:23
  I had like a fissure in the previous cross- ligament and rich two running
• 52:30
  and not like we didn' t come back in a while if I wanted
• 52:32
  to come back, but a long time ago. No, I mean,
• 52:34
  it' s not his fort, yeah, no, you don' t
• 52:37
  have a time. Just like you don' t have to monserrate. It
• 52:39
  ' s not that bad. I really like the technical terrain. I'
• 52:43
  m fascinated by technical terrain. It is like all those cemenos that are too
• 52:45
  difficult and require a lot of skill to develop them. Whether he was going
• 52:50
  down the Ra Mountains or not lost. Yeah, no, no, no,
• 52:53
  better no, no, it' s just that I couldn' t
• 52:55
  make classic Bogota. So let' s say what for trailing to Monserrate can
• 53:05
  be boring because you say ay not too flat. Very well, I'
• 53:09
  ll be there when you face it and that' s when I' m
• 53:14
  broken, I feel super trailing. I' m short of a challege the
• 53:19
  boat, but the very good one. It' s not enough for me,
• 53:22
  and it' s a beautiful sport. I mean, the trailer is.
• 53:25
  I feel that one, because it is also a sport that has too
• 53:29
  much topic in terms of giving visibility, environmental sustainability and being able to recognize
• 53:37
  our spaces. Then let' s say that, they say that only one
• 53:38
  takes care of what one knows. It' s very true. So making
• 53:40
  environmental spaces visible for people to own is very important. So that also helps
• 53:46
  a lot and that serves a lot to show that part. Besides, it
• 53:52
  ' s an amazing sport, you tell me. We' re gonna miss
• 53:57
  five hours out there on the mountain, sit on a rock and share food
• 54:01
  all over there just talking about how tired we are, but happy because we
• 54:06
  ' re sharing on the mountain. It' s beautiful, so your perfect
• 54:08
  date would be going to a mountain. You know, you don' t
• 54:12
  even fall in love with Nicole and then we have a little coffee in the
• 54:17
  hall Ok. Yeah, I think it would be a good one. Others,
• 54:23
  let' s talk now to close the interview. Let' s talk
• 54:28
  a little bit about the Rouning club, where, since I don' t
• 54:31
  know you' re working, I don' t know what that' s
• 54:37
  like, but we think it' s amazing that it' s the women
• 54:38
  ' s ning ge Rock Club Geard rom Loud. Yeah, give it to
• 54:40
  me good. I think I came as far as Community as to begin to
• 54:45
  say how I got there. I' m a bachelor' s degree student
• 54:50
  in sports. I saw in the fifth semester. Then let' s say
• 54:54
  what I' ve always been like, everything very much to the end of
• 54:57
  the sport. When I came to study what I was studying, I swore
• 55:00
  that I was going to go for performance, but then also for reasons of,
• 55:05
  for example, my sports career, which I had as the end of
• 55:07
  getting out of my sports career and getting to know more about what performance sport
• 55:13
  means, that performance sport turns out to be everything but health Then I went
• 55:19
  into the race and started to know also we have as certain practices that are
• 55:23
  social and school performance. Then I enter the career and start dictating class and
• 55:30
  I am very passionate about pedagogy. I am passionate about pedagogy too much I
• 55:37
  love teaching and I love sport, because sport has made a very strong change
• 55:40
  in my life and in the lives of people I know and I have been
• 55:45
  able to see the change of people being able to help many people. I
• 55:50
  ' ve been able to work as a mountain guide and work as a broom.
• 55:53
  Also broom running is the person who' s closing the group last,
• 55:57
  you' d show them up with me and we' ll talk. I
• 56:00
  feel like he' s already talking and I think he' s, like,
• 56:05
  37 years old. Yeah, it' s not that he' s
• 56:07
  told us a lot of things and yes, he weighs his twelve years because
• 56:14
  yes and then you really like pedagogy. Yeah, because give it good there
• 56:17
  like before the clubs, the clubs, I think it went a lot,
• 56:22
  because since I started being CoA jogging the person who normally goes last, is
• 56:29
  the person who has the most reason to be there and what else is struggling
• 56:31
  to be there. So, like spending so many hours with someone you start
• 56:36
  meeting him. And that' s when you start to know a lot of
• 56:40
  stories like the impact it has on those people being there being able to make
• 56:44
  it. Patients, sonicologists, people with many diseases, who are there for
• 56:52
  a personal challenge and to prove themselves that they can still and sport have a
• 56:57
  reason not only that, but sport, by creating community, can save many
• 57:00
  people. I mean, it' s been my turn to know a lot
• 57:07
  of cases that sport literally saves lives and sport reads a purpose to people.
• 57:12
  I get what that' s why I fell very much in love with my
• 57:15
  career, because that can make a big impact. And let' s say
• 57:21
  what we do all parts of a society. So that' s when you
• 57:23
  say the performance sport is one percent less than one percent of the population.
• 57:28
  And that is, sport is not just that, but we' re going
• 57:31
  to do so that all ninety- nine point, nine percent more of the
• 57:35
  people we go out on the street every day and we' re part of
• 57:38
  a society, how we' re going to do it all, to improve
• 57:42
  people' s quality of life and how we can do it through sport,
• 57:45
  which is such a strong tool to be able to do it. Then I
• 57:49
  know this social part of the sport. When I go into college and just
• 57:54
  about careers, work at events, organizing careers and so on, I begin
• 58:00
  to realize all this and I say how strong the community and how strong when
• 58:02
  you have a voice for a voice and a community of listening is in networks
• 58:09
  wherever it is, the message that you are going to convey is very strong.
• 58:16
  If many people are seeing you, then you start to see that,
• 58:21
  after the pandemic, the Runin exploded, that is, everyone started running everyone
• 58:23
  started running after the pandemic, and that' s how it became a platform
• 58:28
  where a lot of people, well, a lot of people found work,
• 58:31
  a lot of people found a lot of things, but then a lot of
• 58:37
  people also started creating communities. Then it' s what we can do with
• 58:42
  this. And I know. I find myself one day in Tiktok, a
• 58:49
  video of Daniela, Daniela Murcia, who is, as she is, the
• 58:53
  creator of the community as such, and she found me a video of her
• 58:59
  in Tiktok, as inviting an activity to a Sunday, and it was a
• 59:02
  video that had little likes, but it came out like a parallillo what I
• 59:06
  did. And then I said like, I' ve always thought a lot
• 59:13
  about that, because they were a community, because many girls, and because
• 59:15
  it' s also happened to me personally that sometimes it' s like how
• 59:19
  ugly the day is to run, because they' re going to tell you
• 59:22
  something on the street that' s scary. Many do not dare to run.
• 59:24
  Then it' s like that for more girls to go for a run.
• 59:29
  So I find this video and I get in like whatsapp' s chat
• 59:32
  of it and then, like, I see that soon good came in to
• 59:40
  analyze me as ok suddenly she doesn' t like she has no inside for
• 59:45
  you or whatever, and I' ve always been like very much so that
• 59:50
  she has that yes, that is, the runners, who become coaches.
• 59:55
  I am very opposed to that and that sport has to be guided by people
• 1:00:00
  who really know it. Not only that because you' re leading a person
• 1:00:05
  ' s life the well- being of a person. If he hands you
• 1:00:07
  your process, his sporting process, then I write to him and say hello,
• 1:00:12
  and I don' t know what. I don' t know if
• 1:00:15
  you' ve already got someone to help you with the heating issue, about
• 1:00:22
  being on the lookout for training and so on. I study this, this
• 1:00:24
  and this in case you need support and, as I already knew, event
• 1:00:30
  logistics. It was like I could help you. So she' s like
• 1:00:37
  I' ve answered myself at once and it' s like the message I
• 1:00:39
  was waiting for. And then we got to know each other. So I
• 1:00:44
  ' ll see you that day, I' ll start helping you with the
• 1:00:47
  logistics issue, because at first it was like we didn' t just run.
• 1:00:50
  He thought thirty people were coming and I already told him how not to
• 1:00:52
  look. So you don' t, because so that it' s not
• 1:00:59
  as good as it' s going to suit everyone, let' s work
• 1:01:04
  it out in groups, that' s for passers- by, for pens,
• 1:01:06
  so that everyone fits something good. We started working on logistics and so
• 1:01:07
  on. The day comes to the event and we said thirty people will go,
• 1:01:13
  maximum thirty by far the group of whatsappo had filled. Many confirmed,
• 1:01:17
  but one says no to a free event. Many at the end don'
• 1:01:22
  t go And well, we got that day to titan Plaza in the sense
• 1:01:28
  or that it is Titana Colina and we said thirty and then we said good.
• 1:01:31
  Many responded to the survey. Well, suddenly fifty comes the day to
• 1:01:36
  the event, and that' s starting to get out of control. Many
• 1:01:38
  girls arrive and fill the part in front of Titan Plaza. And it was
• 1:01:45
  crazy because there were a lot of people and a lot and it' s
• 1:01:52
  a lot of pink and then let' s say what that fills you,
• 1:01:59
  fills you up a lot because it' s like a beautiful community of women
• 1:02:01
  and and supporting each other and it' s like really cute. And also
• 1:02:02
  because well and I say to myself the sport moves me a lot before is
• 1:02:06
  to see something of the sport that moves a lot to me causes me too
• 1:02:10
  much feeling. So of course, there were a lot of girls, how
• 1:02:15
  many on that day were two hundred, fifty or so many. That was
• 1:02:20
  the first creation exit. It was the first of thirty people to wait for
• 1:02:24
  but, but it' s Frige' s. How not to lose your
• 1:02:29
  calm at that moment, because if you are prepared for fifty people who did
• 1:02:35
  at that moment, when they saw all that and you say that almost the
• 1:02:37
  whole square is filled, how do you react calmly, that is, and
• 1:02:43
  so to speak, if it hadn' t been for you, you think
• 1:02:47
  that you could have managed the situation, because you get out of control and
• 1:02:51
  you need a professional in the subject and more like you that he likes pedagogy
• 1:02:54
  to soon guide the group, that is, what would have happened without you
• 1:02:59
  and they did how they reacted to it, because sometimes you lose control.
• 1:03:05
  I think if that had happened to me a year or two ago, I
• 1:03:08
  definitely wouldn' t have talked about the management street that made part clan be
• 1:03:20
  to exact and let' s just say it. It' s very funny,
• 1:03:22
  because I felt sorry for everything, I felt sorry for talking. I
• 1:03:24
  was the one who went to the store and told Maquinal, told the cashier
• 1:03:28
  how about it. So it' s very ironic that I end up being
• 1:03:34
  a teacher that it' s standing in front of a lot of people and
• 1:03:37
  wanting to give a message. So I, I mean, I went for
• 1:03:43
  a ride and it' s just that something happens to me and when I
• 1:03:45
  start dictating class, or I start talking about something that refers to sport,
• 1:03:51
  I change my chip and as I start talking, I think that here it
• 1:03:54
  ' s shown to me they let me shut up and I get signs.
• 1:03:59
  So it was kind of like I learned a lot when I started teaching and
• 1:04:04
  also when I started that I quit working with sports events because I had already
• 1:04:11
  guided events for brands. He also worked guiding events for brands on the mountain
• 1:04:16
  then like he had a little bit of court working with a lot of people
• 1:04:19
  soon. Then it came to people and it was like ok For me,
• 1:04:23
  if it was my first biggest event. I hadn' t worked with so
• 1:04:26
  many people, because brands set a limit and it' s a discrete limit.
• 1:04:28
  So she played well if it was my first time working with so many
• 1:04:31
  people, but it' s a let' s do it. I mean,
• 1:04:34
  let' s do it, let' s do it, and who
• 1:04:39
  are you getting out there or there were more people in the logistics. When
• 1:04:42
  I talked to Daniela and I planted the peacemakers, she was like ok Let
• 1:04:46
  ' s find a team. So I started contacting people that I knew had
• 1:04:51
  the perfect energy for that and they were going to feel really good about the
• 1:04:55
  project. Then he started writing to people I knew was going to be perfect
• 1:05:01
  and he trusted too much of the U as he did of people I know
• 1:05:05
  of running and they got on the bus. Then they got the group and
• 1:05:15
  then that day we were going for peace pens. Then it was to create
• 1:05:20
  the group of passers- by. Daniela also, on her side, got
• 1:05:23
  some girls and also opened a walking group, because it was a And if
• 1:05:27
  moms want to go and don' t run, we' re all welcome.
• 1:05:30
  Call him that from the beginning is also said as because many people have
• 1:05:33
  the belief that no man can go no, because I feel it would be.
• 1:05:38
  We all felt it would be contradictory. The idea of this is to
• 1:05:41
  generate community and exclude people. It' s contradictory. If there are women
• 1:05:45
  who hate us because in the woman' s career, when first they included
• 1:05:50
  men who were the numeral they don' t run alone. Many complained about
• 1:05:56
  it. No, I mean, yeah, why. Because of course,
• 1:06:00
  I think your philosophy is right, because if what you want is that as
• 1:06:04
  such. Not to exclude someone, because it' s not very human.
• 1:06:09
  It' s the hand this transaction and I love it and in fact I
• 1:06:12
  didn' t know you could leave men. Not this way many people wait
• 1:06:15
  for them, many people did say as woe, no, but how ugly,
• 1:06:21
  because it is still to exclude. No one is ever excluded. In
• 1:06:27
  fact, in the first event it was seen that many girls went with their
• 1:06:30
  boyfriend because soon they were afraid to go alone and it is not a woe.
• 1:06:33
  No, you can' t run because you' re or not,
• 1:06:35
  because the idea is to create community. We are creating through sport. So
• 1:06:40
  it' s creating and not destroying. What is the main objective of that
• 1:06:43
  communion. I think we can bring sports closer to women and bring women closer
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  to more women. For example, at that first event, we ended up
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  on a hill and died in a park to collapse the cycleway, and there
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  a talk was made, as we were getting to know each other, and
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  it was a how many girls had it. It was the first time they
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  ran, but also what the activity meant. For you. There are some
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  very nice videos from that day, stories that were told and it' s
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  how many girls we had the story of one I' ve made, because
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  it was made public then that it was like she had a lot of emotional
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  problems and so on and she was already in a collapse and one day she
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  said how the video was found and it was how I' m going to
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  give myself a chance. She loves to give one last chance. I'
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  m going to go see if I can, friends, if I can go
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  out with someone and she had a venture, she comes to the event and
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  that day she tells us her story, tells us what her venture is and
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  it' s a I came today with zero friend, if I go with
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  two hundred and fifty and I leave for a purpose that I know I'
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  m going back and I want to keep running and I have a purpose.
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  It' s some clients that' s also good that emotional, but it
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  ' s like a what' s being done with this, not just that
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  story, but many more girls who were like a. I have this disease,
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  but I saw this and I said if I can' t do it
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  alone, I' m gonna go get somebody to hold my hand and do
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  it together. So it' s a not alone and there are more people
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  who can hear me, who can run with me, so it' s
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  a let' s meet on the road and run all together. So it
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  ' s like being able to feel strength on the side of more people and
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  being a community that motivates you and helps grow more people. Super seems to
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  me that good for analysis, a secret that, since women are the most
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  vulnerable to the moment of running when they go alone, when one gives them
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  to you together, they are authentic or you go running as you are cheerful
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  scream you communicate, you run chevere because when one sees a woman alone on
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  the cycleway, because it goes with his hearing aids and they go his own
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  and maybe it is not being authentic as usual. It was us last week
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  we made a video on the cycleway and then we were the idea was between
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  these people and we saw the women and they were like they were with their
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  hearing aids and we were getting closer and they were like they were, yeah,
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  something is going to happen to me and that' s ugly, because
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  women are the most vulnerable and we have to change that, that is,
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  we also had an influencer here that was trying to develop as a hashtag for
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  women to run safely. And it seems to me that it is a commitment
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  of everyone to be able to be safe on the street, to feel safe,
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  because it is true that they happen. I don' t know what
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  happens in the pants and people' s cars. Suddenly she' ll touch
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  it. So it' s a social problem, it' s true,
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  it' s real. It is there and we need to have more voice
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  to listen to us, because I have also been told the influences. What
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  is our space in the life of the runners. And no one answers what
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  our space is in life, because when there is no cycleway where we run,
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  yes, and that' s a problem for men and I imagine for
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  women what they will be like, how you feel vulnerable and make that group
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  of people it makes me that it' s chevere because what she saw happened
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  and it was you and the enerity were you were screaming, you were authentic
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  and I was saying what chevere, because a woman alone doesn' t do
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  that. Be a lot of power among you, yes, I think that
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  ' s a very important thing too, and that' s what shows a
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  lot about the values of this kind of community, about being able to create
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  an empowerment, and that' s how to give a space where people can
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  develop sports safely as well. But let' s say that not only when
• 1:11:00
  it comes to moving and running, but learning from sport, then it goes
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  like it goes for both sides. First, it' s super important about
• 1:11:08
  the community. It' s a safe space and it' s a space
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  for everyone. And also say good we have this, but let' s
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  do the sport in a healthy way, not forgetting that it is still a
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  sports discipline and that it is the same. That is why it is also
• 1:11:24
  important to support these spaces and to see how we do sports growth also in
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  a healthy way and that is completely as correct and complete for everyone. Well,
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  Nicole, well, as well as to close, because it' s
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  been a lot longer. Invite them, take that camera, look at that
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  camera, invite them all people that women, well, men, you also
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  say they want to be part, where they follow them, when you publish
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  where they are going to be. Okay, well, let' s just
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  say we all have an invitation extended to all of us to run in life.
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  Let' s take over this sport. The running. It' s
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  a beautiful sport, it' s a very big sport and we all part,
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  we all fit into this cute sport. Then let' s continue to
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  create community, both with Roan Club gers and with many communities, let'
• 1:12:25
  s get out and run. They can find us equally in networks such as
• 1:12:28
  gers rom club or in many activities that will continue to develop. Let'
• 1:12:33
  s keep building community. Here we are all part, then we are all
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  very invited too, because in my networks there are many very cool activities.
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  I want to be able to start sharing these activities a lot, not only
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  with that, but also with many brands and be able to open sports growth
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  spaces so that we all continue to learn and continue to be part of this
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  sport. Then let' s not stop running. Super well, let'
• 1:13:00
  s play one last temite, as well as radio mother, that the time
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  is very short from here you said something very important right now and it is
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  to do things well, Thank God, because they have you who are professional
• 1:13:14
  or because you are training as a professional. It is important, professionals in
• 1:13:17
  sport, in communities. It' s very important, very important. You
• 1:13:21
  have a project with someone else right now. Tell us a little bit about
• 1:13:28
  this project which one is focused on, what are the topics that they are
• 1:13:30
  going to touch, because it is something multidisciplinary that is also focused on the
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  emails. Then tell us about it a little bit. Ok the project is
• 1:13:38
  called Erronees Bronhap. It' s just a growth space for runners. This
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  is Claudia Guzmán and my person is a space where we seek to offer people
• 1:13:51
  multidisciplinary workshops, where it is a sports school. So, we have a
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  team of allied people who are experts in the topics that will be played within
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  the workshops. So, Claudia is a graduate in physical education, she'
• 1:14:11
  s also certified as a level one athletic work coach, and she' s
• 1:14:15
  a teacher right now. But let' s say what, for example,
• 1:14:19
  we manage psychology, nutrition, physiotherapy, we also seek to be able to
• 1:14:29
  talk a lot about time management of learning to manage careers and so on.
• 1:14:32
  Then we have a team of professionals for this type of workshops. So,
• 1:14:38
  for example, our first workshop is going to be held on June 23rd,
• 1:14:42
  which is going to be a workshop for recovery and more common injuries in runners
• 1:14:47
  and recovery, and it is going to be run by a professional physiotherapist who
• 1:14:53
  is from the University of Rosario and she is going to be running it.
• 1:14:58
  Let' s say what for all these kinds of workshops. We count on
• 1:15:01
  the professionals so that just people can come and learn together. They' re
• 1:15:06
  from the sport. So, because it' s very important, I mean,
• 1:15:10
  if we' re part of this, let' s do it in
• 1:15:12
  a healthy way. So the idea is that we all keep learning this,
• 1:15:15
  not just training, not just what my peaces are, but how long I
• 1:15:18
  want to keep running and how I' m going to make my body do
• 1:15:25
  it in a healthy way, because the idea of sport is independence. When
• 1:15:29
  you' re older, that is, independent sports and it' s quality
• 1:15:31
  of life. So it' s just workshops where everyone can make Part of
• 1:15:36
  the inscriptions open. The account is Runners, bromhap En, Instagram and the
• 1:15:41
  idea is that they are practical isthric workshops. Then you have the part where
• 1:15:45
  you see the whole theory, but you' re also going to develop it.
• 1:15:48
  So it' s super complete and a space for all of us to
• 1:15:55
  continue learning from the very chevere sport. Nicole Na, Nicole, thank you
• 1:15:57
  so much for sharing these two. No lies either a master' s class
• 1:16:01
  of many things, a class trail brand to generate community and nothing. Thank
• 1:16:06
  you for being here, for coming and for telling us your story, which
• 1:16:11
  is nineteen years old and seems to be a story of years and years and
• 1:16:14
  years. Thank you so much for coming, not you. Thank you so
• 1:16:17
  much for the real invitation that I feel this kind of spaces are very important
• 1:16:21
  in this sport. So, thank you so much for the invitation. Well
• 1:16:26
  nothing snooze. This was chapter number sixty. Remember to subscribe to the YouTube
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