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What If They Said No? Rewriting History’s Biggest ‘What-If’ · 4DAFAM

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  Welcome to episode 24 of For The Fam Podcast.
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  Kobe episode. Kobe episode. What's been good, brother? How you feeling?
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  Good, man. Just over this rain,
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  as we was talking about before we came on air, just tired of it, man.
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  Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. You deal with it way more than I do.
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  I'm used to it. As crazy as that may sound, it doesn't bother me like it used to.
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  So, as I said, as long as I'm dressed for it, I feel like I'm prepared.
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  I just go with the flow, man. I mean, control what you can control.
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  I can't control the weather. So, I don't even spend my time worrying about it no more. Not like that.
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  Well, it depends, man. You know some people out there, man, that think that,
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  you know, the government controlling the weather.
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  You know them chemtrails, boy.
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  You know what you know what it's funny you say that
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  bro maybe for an episode we can have some fun and just talk about conspiracy
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  theories we have to okay all right all right cool well anyway what are we going
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  to get into and get into today because we're not going to get into conspiracy
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  theories so we have a i guess a what if episode,
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  Part of a what-if episode. A good hypothetical. Yeah, yeah. So rewriting history. Yep.
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  And we're going to talk also about the economical impact, the economic impact
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  of what we're seeing happen in the Middle East right now and the global impact. There you go.
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  There you go. There you go. All right. All right. Cool.
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  So the hypothetical that we are going to discuss here to begin the episode is
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  sort of a question. Mm-hmm.
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  What would the world be like if the Native Americans, the indigenous people,
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  rejected the first settlers?
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  I know that's probably something people have never contemplated. Lord have mercy.
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  But it's a really interesting thought experiment.
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  It is. It really is. I mean, because the world would be an absolutely different
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  place if just one small action had taken place and they just went, hey,
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  get back on the boat or die. Your choice.
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  Or if they would have sunk the boats 200 yards offshore.
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  Who are they? I don't know. Well, they got to go.
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  Yeah, that's somebody invading us instead of the curiosity that the indigenous
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  people probably, I mean, we don't know if they did or not, but just the overall
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  curiosity that they probably had when people showed up.
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  Yeah. You know, they're thinking, we're cool. Yeah, you can come on over.
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  Yeah. And of course, look what happened.
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  Yeah. So let's start with the obvious impact.
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  The genocide, the slaughter, the indigenous community would be much larger than it is right now.
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  I mean, that's just the most obvious.
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  So with the access that Europeans had to the indigenous people in this country,
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  eventually with the diseases they brought, Jesus,
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  the diseases that were brought with them right now an estimated 90%.
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  I want everybody to understand that. That is not a typo. 90% of the population in the Americas.
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  Interesting. That is wild. It really is. And yeah, if the disease didn't get
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  them, then it was just the slaughter that got them.
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  And and I need to do more follow up research on this, but and this is going
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  to lead into our next most obvious or glaring difference.
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  I think I read somewhere that they originally tried to enslave the NATOs,
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  but they couldn't do the work properly,
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  which is why they started to come to Africa to get us, which leads us to the
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  next glaring difference is we may not even be here, bro.
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  I mean, we may not be here recording this podcast right now.
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  We may be in Africa right now, bro. I'm just saying.
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  Which also, I mean, obviously, there's a lot of black folk in Africa.
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  Africa may look a little bit different as well. For sure.
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  But think of this. When they first landed here, the Aztec Empire was already
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  larger than London or Paris at the time in the 1500s. Mmh.
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  So you showed up on shore. Now, granted, obviously, I understand.
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  I'm referencing the Americas in general. So Latin America.
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  Yeah, for sure. Already set up what is now Mexico City in the 1500s.
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  And they were bigger than two of the largest cities in the world.
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  Well, I mean, we know it wasn't just North America that got colonized. Right.
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  It was also South America, Central America. And I don't think a lot of people
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  realize that the majority of slavery actually happened on the South American continent.
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  Brazil. Yeah. More. Yeah. More slavery happened there than it actually did in North America.
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  I think most people don't recognize that, but still, it was European colonizers.
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  So, you know, just just a different location, but same problem.
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  Yep. Same atrocity.
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  Yeah. So, so, so yeah, South America may not have as many.
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  Well, well, well, wait, before I say that, because, you know,
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  they talk about that current that flows from Africa to South America.
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  So it's very possible that Africans would have eventually tracked across and
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  made it into, yeah, South America.
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  But it's can you imagine the aztec and inca empires and what they would have become,
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  with just a few more years let's just say because what those
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  expeditions when they were coming from europe it's not like they were coming
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  like every six months i mean they were some of those expeditions were taking
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  up to nine years for new boats to show up can you imagine had they turned away
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  the first boat nobody in europe knows that that boat made it or didn't make
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  it correct and then another nine or 10 years go by,
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  you imagine what the populations would have been in the Americas.
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  And then, of course, you had people in the winter.
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  Migrating up near Alaska and coming down from Asia, it would have just continued to grow.
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  The entire demographic would be different. The entire population would just be different.
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  And as we were discussing before we started to record.
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  Europe would not be the dominant power that they are today, not financially,
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  not militarily, because America basically was the cash cow.
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  So I made sure I highlighted this. The rise of Europe as a dominant global power
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  was heavily funded by the wealth extracted from the Americas,
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  specifically silver, gold, and cash crops like sugar and tobacco. For sure.
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  Absolutely. And there is no disputing that they got rich off of America to basically
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  say they got rich off slave labor. Yeah.
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  And the thing is, too, is that may have drastically altered when the Industrial
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  Revolution started. Mm-hmm.
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  And it may have started somewhere else. Mm-hmm. Like China or India. Mm-hmm.
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  Yeah. And I mean, like, we were
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  talking about... Which they were already powerhouses at the time as well.
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  But we were just saying, like, perhaps...
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  Slavery wouldn't have taken place in America. So is it logical to think that
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  colonization wouldn't have happened in Africa either?
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  I mean, because once we removed all or once they removed all of those people,
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  it weakened a lot of those countries. Mm hmm.
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  So with a different population, we are here to fight.
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  Y'all can't come here either. So perhaps the colonization wouldn't have happened either.
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  I mean, just the world would be so different.
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  Like we were saying, had that one action just taking place, just just know,
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  get your asses back on that boat and go home.
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  Well, and we know trade would have eventually happened. Of course.
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  But it would have been done on different terms, different terms. Correct.
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  Because these empires would have continued to grow in the Americas.
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  So yes, eventually people from Europe or people from the Americas would have
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  headed east and started trading. It would have been a little bit different.
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  Sure. Japan may be a superpower.
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  Yeah. India may be a superpower. Yeah, because they were. Yeah.
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  They were big. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, without a doubt. Some African countries may be a superpower,
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  you know, and perhaps Britain,
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  France, Spain, wouldn't be the powers that they once were. Right.
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  Yeah, it's an interesting thing to contemplate.
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  Like, think about this. Potatoes and corn were introduced into European society,
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  which helped them grow. All that stuff was stolen.
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  But had they been turned away, it would have given them and it would have given
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  the people of the Americas the opportunity to make sure that they were properly paid.
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  For the growth and selling of potatoes and corn.
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  Well, fur wasn't that also one of the major commodities that they traded.
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  So the natives had the fur to trade back to Europe.
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  I mean, just it's so many things that would just be different.
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  And I think we take for granted one how.
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  Don't i don't i forget
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  it how the europeans screwed up the world basically
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  and i i mean like i know some of
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  y'all probably like yeah you hate white people no not really
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  it is it's just a thing right i
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  mean i i i i can't i i i
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  can't recount history without acknowledging what
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  happened fact yeah yeah I mean yeah the fact is
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  is that if if we come across a subject
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  that we want to talk about that involves black folk
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  that did some ignorant shit we will call
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  it out yeah period I mean we will call it out this isn't a one-sided argument
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  this is these are and keep in mind people listening these are hypotheticals
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  hypothetical what could have happened what could have what would have right
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  right right maybe perhaps right I mean no one can say for sure but As I was saying,
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  had they not screwed up the world, I mean, just.
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  Imagine if if if Africa was for Africans, India was for Indians, Asia was for Asians.
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  You know what I'm saying? Just just imagine what the world would be,
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  perhaps or no, perhaps World War One would not have happened had Europeans not
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  been allowed to get off that boat.
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  World War Two might not have World War Two. Had that, uh, was it Australian
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  soldier or the British soldier would have just shot Hitler in that open field?
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  Well, he'd have been dead at 20 whatever he was. I mean, like what?
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  And don't don't get me wrong. People always find something to fight about.
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  I mean, that's that's just the nature of human beings. So, so,
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  so I'm not sitting here trying to claim that the world would be a utopia and
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  there would be just everlasting peace.
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  I'm not trying to make that claim at all. But.
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  I'm just saying maybe he would have never even rose to power had they not come to America.
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  I mean, they all say he learned how to mistreat people from America. Yeah.
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  Yeah. So so so I'm just saying, you know, perhaps there would be no Holocaust.
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  Had the Native Americans just said, get back on the boat and and obviously no Holocaust.
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  Also drastically changes the landscape, the population of that part of the world.
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  So it's just crazy how one or two things can drastically alter one or two events.
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  Three to four hundred years. Yes.
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  And we're still feeling those effects today.
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  It's very interesting and very crazy at the same time. Which is wild when people
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  don't acknowledge that we're still feeling the effects of certain things.
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  Like when you talk about when people talk about generational trauma. Oh, for sure.
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  Generational wealth. Yeah, generational wealth as well. Because,
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  look, I could sit here as a mature adult and a more mature father.
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  There are plenty of things. When the twins were first born, I didn't know what
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  the hell I was doing. I thought I did.
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  Learning on the fly. But you're learning on the fly. Like we're all young,
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  young learners on the fly.
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  So that way, and it's funny because the twins often tell the two younger ones,
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  well, we grew up with a different dad.
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  And obviously I didn't beat my kids and nothing like that.
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  But I was angry a lot. I raised my voice a lot, which I didn't really do to
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  the two younger ones that often. Mm-hmm.
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  It didn't come from my mother and father, but it came from other things that I saw around my family.
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  There was a lot of yellow. It just was. It is what it is.
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  And the majority of black families, that's what it was. So my family that's
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  listening, y'all know damn well y'all mamas and daddies yell.
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  Man, I don't even need to go into that conversation, bro.
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  Yeah, that's crazy. So, yeah, y'all, we just wanted to throw that hypothetical
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  out there, give everyone something to think about, you know,
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  and if you guys have some other hypotheticals that you'd like us to discuss, leave a comment,
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  you know, and we'll look it over, mull it over.
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  And if you heard something that you didn't agree with, or maybe I messed something
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  up on a statistic, or you messed something up on a statistic.
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  Disput it. Yeah. Like, look...
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  You leave a comment. We're not going to be the type of people to get in there
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  and troll you and talk trash and be mad.
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  Now it's, you know, the comment section for us is strictly for talking.
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  And, you know, because we don't argue with knuckleheads.
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  We but we excuse me, we we enjoy spirited debate. Yeah.
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  And we enjoy having different ideas and things that challenge our ways of thinking.
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  And if there's a different viewpoint, a different perspective,
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  we're open to it. We love it.
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  We love it. That's the type of guys we are. We like to learn.
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  We like to be challenged.
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  We like to look at things from all angles and look at things from a macro instead of a micro.
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  Now, on the flip side of that coin, if you're wrong, we will flat out tell you
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  that you're wrong. Oh, without a doubt. Ain't nobody about to debate no damn facts.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Facts are facts.
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  And you cannot have facts based on feelings. What did she say?
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  No, he had a feeling based on facts.
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  No, I was going all the way back to 2007. Oh, alternative facts.
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  Yeah, alternative facts. Yeah. both are equally
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  stupid by the way alternative facts is
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  how you write movies yeah alternative facts and
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  a feeling based on a fact what what anyway
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  we're we're gonna roll right into that's a great segue to our next topic which
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  is the iran war where where i mean there's so much to talk about bro where you
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  want to start you want to start on the economic impact it's going to have not just on America,
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  but on the world, or you want to get into some of the, like.
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  Okay, let me start here. Before we even get into this, I have to say this,
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  and I feel like I shouldn't have to, but I know I have to.
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  Talking about the Iran war the way that we're about to does not make us unpatriotic. Nope.
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  You're supposed to dispute your government.
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  We can support America.
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  We can support the troops all day, all while acknowledging that we don't need
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  to see little children being killed.
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  All right. That that's that's that's our view.
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  We can we can we can we can be supportive of the action and also acknowledge
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  that sometimes wars just don't need to happen.
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  And I know for me, you know, obviously I have relatives who are active members
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  in the military and I also have the twins friend. Right.
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  Who is thank God he's in Europe right now and not involved in that.
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  He's obviously active member of the military so obviously i don't want to see
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  him go to war i don't want him to see to see those atrocities in any way shape
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  come back a change man he's a good kid so i would hate for anything like that
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  to happen when he has to see any of those atrocities,
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  yeah so so with that being said we're gonna we're gonna dive into this and.
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  Just this week alone in the last what two three days,
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  gas has already increased what like
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  30 cent a gallon 30 to 40 cent a
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  gallon shoot some places it shot up higher than that
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  and to i mean the the longer this continues the more expensive your gas price
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  is going to become but i need people to recognize how this is going to impact
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  not just gas that goes into your vehicle.
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  This is going to impact shipping costs because the same way that our gas is
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  going to increase, their gas also increases to move those vessels.
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  They turn around and they add that to the cost.
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  That cost gets transferred to the customer. So any good that's being imported
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  on a vessel, which most are, is probably going to increase in costs.
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  So for those who don't know, jet fuel is mostly made from crude oil.
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  20% of the world's oil supply passes through the Strait of Hormuz.
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  Now, I'll be honest with you. I'm not sure what's going on right now as we speak with the Strait.
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  I know that we said we were going to start escorting tankers through,
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  but I don't know what happened with that.
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  So for people that travel a lot, if you think for a second that Southwest,
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  United, Delta, Spirit, so on and so forth, because jet fuel has already went up crazy.
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  If you think that that round trip ticket that used to cost $400 is not going
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  to go to $600, you're out of your mind. Absolutely.
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  Absolutely. Like I would just say, anything.
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  And the issue I have, too, with people who support this nonsense that have money,
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  you're okay with spending an extra $200 on a ticket.
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  What if it's you, your significant other, and two or three of your children?
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  Now, you spend an extra $800 to $1,000 to fly somewhere that you used to spend way less to do.
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  But you got to stand behind your president because you're not supporting the troops.
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  Most of these dumbasses talking on TV are supporting the president.
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  You're not supporting the troops. You're supporting the president.
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  Patriots, I like to call them. They're not patriots. They're fake-triots. It's mind-blowing.
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  It is. It really is.
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  But I do want to get into some statistics, some numbers here,
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  just some stark realities, harsh realities that I think we need to grapple with.
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  I think we all have seen the six service members who've been killed. God bless them.
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  Excuse me. Lord knows they didn't deserve to be killed. But. Yeah.
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  The numbers being reported, last time I checked, between 1,000 and 1,300 Iranians
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  have been killed in a week compared to six.
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  That's crazy.
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  160 to 180 children were killed in one strike.
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  In that girl's school, in one strike. The first day. Those are children.
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  Girls, where's your humanity? And for those who like to get their news from
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  only American sources, flip over to Al Jazeera English.
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  Now, I didn't like what I saw, but they showed the kids in body bags.
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  Oh, wow. Now, they didn't show faces.
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  But as they were tending to the body bags, you could tell.
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  It's like, wait, is that a kid? And then you realize you're staring at rolls
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  and rolls of little girls.
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  So when you hear girls school, the first thing you think is,
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  now obviously it's wrong, it's wrong.
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  And it's like some 13 year olds, 15. These were, some of these were toddlers, itty bitty babies.
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  Crazy, crazy. and and
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  like guys i started off saying it doesn't
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  make us unpatriotic to acknowledge that
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  that's a tragedy it's wrong it's a
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  tragedy that could have been avoided by the way and and as much as i dislike
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  this dude even for that like even if you're the president and you're running
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  the show if that doesn't bother you then you're an evil human being correct
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  now i understand he You can't get on TV and show it.
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  If that doesn't bother you, then there's something wrong with you in here.
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  Correct. Not in your brain, in your heart. Correct. Something's wrong with you. Correct.
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  Correct. Correct. And for those who lack empathy, those who lack sympathy.
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  It's really simple. Imagine if that happened here in America, man.
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  Imagine if if if some of those girls were your daughters or nieces or granddaughters.
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  For those that might be too young or might be listening from around the world,
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  I still remember. I remember where I was, what I was doing when Oklahoma City happened.
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  I was working at a grocery store and the dude came to work at noon.
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  He was like, man, y'all been in the break room? Y'all see what's going on in Oklahoma?
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  And I'm like, nah, they was like, nah, man, somebody blew up one of the federal
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  buildings. I remember all of us in the back were like, damn.
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  And within a few hours, I remember our manager was gone for a little while. He came back.
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  He was hot because he found out that there was a daycare center.
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  Oh, wow. At the bottom of the building. Right. For those that don't know,
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  Timothy McVeigh was about to, like, everybody was gunning for him.
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  His own, hell, his own right-wing patriots were like, oh, nah,
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  bro, you got to go. Because you killed all those children.
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  We don't support that nonsense that happened in Iran at that girl's school.
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  And it's okay to say that. Absolutely. Yeah, it's OK.
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  That like that doesn't make us unpatriotic to acknowledge the fact that those
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  girls did not have to die.
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  Now, on the flip side of that, if if if we're supposed to be the bringers of
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  peace, how in hell does this promote peace?
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  You you've just made a bunch of enemies. Peace through strength is what Caroline
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  Levitt said the other day, I believe.
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  Just pure ignorance. Pure ignorance.
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  All of these children, all of their parents, surviving parents,
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  they all hate America now. Yeah.
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  Even more than they may have before. Yeah.
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  Which puts us at danger. Yeah. In danger more and more.
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  I'm just going to run down a list. This is how many countries that we've attacked
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  during this first year of the second administration.
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  Iran, of course. Syria.
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  Yemen, Nigeria on Christmas Day, Somalia, Iraq.
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  I guess we just wanted to drop in and say hello with O'Neill.
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  Ain't talked to y'all in a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, take this bomb with you.
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  And I ran again. I mean, because just last summer, we obliterated their abilities
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  to make nuclear weapons.
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  But wait a minute. There's more. are we going to obliterate it again? Right, right.
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  You reduced it to rubble, but somehow this rubble has magically turned into
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  nuclear capabilities in less than a year.
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  So let's go make more rubble. Now, I'm not sure if you're done.
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  Oh, I did not mention the Caribbean boats.
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  Venezuela. Don't forget about Ecuador. Whoa. So I don't. I don't know if. No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 28:04
  You're right. I don't know if, well, I mean, were we just helping out in that capacity?
• 28:11
  We attacked again today. There was another barrage today.
• 28:14
  Now, we are in cooperation with the military.
• 28:19
  Correct, correct, correct, which does make it a little different.
• 28:21
  But we're also in cooperation with Israel.
• 28:25
  I don't separate the two. I hear you.
• 28:29
  Because, I mean, we attacked Iran along with Israel. Right. Now we're attacking
• 28:33
  Ecuador with Ecuador. Yeah.
• 28:35
  Now, granted, Ecuador is attacking people in their own country.
• 28:39
  Correct. And saying, you know, narco, narco terrorists.
• 28:42
  But one thing that and guys, we apologize. We're getting a little off topic.
• 28:46
  We'll get back on in a second. But one thing that's crazy to me.
• 28:49
  What cartel do you know doesn't fight back? Right.
• 28:54
  You're killing narco-terrorists. Okay, cool. There's another 35 people waiting to take its place.
• 29:00
  That's going to still continue to shoot it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 29:08
  You just can't claim that you're the non-war president when all you're doing is starting wars.
• 29:15
  You cannot make the... One, I thought we were supposed to be America first.
• 29:23
  Being the police of the world does not make us America first.
• 29:27
  Well, we will be America first in a couple of things. We'll be one of the first
• 29:31
  countries where the corporations will jack prices up and have us paying $12
• 29:35
  for a box of God dang on Frosted Flakes.
• 29:37
  You absolutely correct on that. And we will be probably one of the most hated
• 29:42
  countries in the world also.
• 29:46
  And I'm only mentioning this because I had a coupon a couple of days ago and
• 29:52
  I was in the cereal aisle.
• 29:54
  The big giant size of Frosted Flakes. They used to be $4.99.
• 29:58
  I'd be like, this is ridiculous. It's $8.
• 30:01
  Yeah, I believe it. $8. And what changed? Nothing.
• 30:05
  Once you get six bowls, well, at my house, you get about, depending on who home,
• 30:09
  you might get about five bowls depending on how they're eating.
• 30:13
  But you're not getting more in the package. Nope.
• 30:17
  Yeah. You're getting less. Yep. As you and I used to work for. For sure.
• 30:21
  A chip company. For sure. For sure. We saw it firsthand. Firsthand.
• 30:27
  Firsthand. Yeah. So I feel like this, bro.
• 30:32
  Since all of these Warhawks and are so.
• 30:37
  We need to do this because they were going to attack us first,
• 30:40
  which there is no evidence to support that.
• 30:42
  I mean, it's just pure spin at this point. Mm hmm.
• 30:46
  I think Barron should have to go off the top, go enlist, get you a weapon.
• 30:53
  Yeah, this was about 500 years ago. He'd be in armor with a sword.
• 30:57
  Yeah, yeah. Get up there. Yeah, Barron should have to go.
• 31:00
  When Pete Hexf kids get old enough, they should have to go.
• 31:05
  Do we really want to send any offspring of somebody like Pete Hexf anywhere?
• 31:10
  Yes, yes. If Marco Rubio got kids old enough to go, they should go.
• 31:17
  Well, I know Lindsey Graham doesn't have kids. If Sean Hannity has kids, of course.
• 31:24
  If Sean Hannity got kids, they should go.
• 31:31
  There was a gesture made, y'all. But anyway, Laura Ingram. All of the Warhawks, basically.
• 31:38
  Their kids should have to go pick up weapons and fight. Because if it's that
• 31:45
  much of a big deal. Exactly.
• 31:47
  To protect us. If you think that this is such a righteous mission,
• 31:52
  then send your kids to go fight.
• 31:54
  But they're not going to, of course, because they don't have to.
• 31:58
  But they're perfectly fine with sending the rest of our kids to go fight in
• 32:04
  a war that did not need to take place.
• 32:07
  It's it's it's I think it would make them less anxious to start wars.
• 32:16
  So speaking of that, I'm going to bring a statistic and it's not about us. It's about Israel.
• 32:22
  The Israeli finance ministry is
• 32:24
  estimating that this war is costing Israel three billion dollars a week.
• 32:30
  Where aren't aren't aren't we at like a billion a day? Yeah.
• 32:34
  But three billion dollars a week.
• 32:37
  Businesses that have restrictions, there's a labor shortage,
• 32:41
  and they're mobilizing reservists because in Israel, everyone has to serve at
• 32:46
  least two years in the military.
• 32:48
  So now, obviously, I'm not sure what happens when they declare war on someone.
• 32:55
  We're not at war. Yeah, we're not at war, though. According to everybody else,
• 32:59
  but Trump said the day we were at war, which I thought was hilarious.
• 33:01
  The first time I've laughed at anything he's said in my whole life, but it was hilarious.
• 33:06
  But yeah, $3 billion a week. For what? Mm-hmm. Okay.
• 33:11
  The Iranian drones cost between $20,000 and $30,000 to make.
• 33:18
  And we're spending millions of dollars to shoot them down? We're spending $4
• 33:21
  million every time to shoot one down. Mm-mm-mm.
• 33:25
  They're spending 20 Gs, and they've got hundreds of thousands of these cheap
• 33:30
  drones. And we're spending 4 million. Cheap drones.
• 33:34
  Like some shit that you and I can go out here in the garage and build in a day. That's not true.
• 33:41
  We could do that. Then we definitely don't need to be podcasting.
• 33:47
  But I get your point. Yeah. But it's just like, I don't know, man.
• 33:52
  I just, I don't think people understand. Like, even if you are gung ho and a
• 33:57
  patriot and a veteran and you're supporting the military no matter what.
• 34:01
  I understand that, I guess.
• 34:03
  But there are ripple effects. Of course.
• 34:06
  Financially. Of course. And it's okay to acknowledge like, yo, this isn't good for us.
• 34:12
  We know we strong. Right. Why we got to prove it?
• 34:16
  You know that you can knock somebody out. Why are you going out fighting everybody? Right. Right.
• 34:22
  You've heard me say it. I've said it to one of my kids recently.
• 34:26
  Nobody is that crazy. Right.
• 34:29
  What happened the last time something happened on the soil from a foreign entity?
• 34:33
  Mm-hmm. What did we do? We damn near obliterated a whole damn country. Mm-hmm.
• 34:38
  Well, it's funny because our allies don't even support us in this endeavor.
• 34:45
  Nah. That's so... And for the first time in our lifetime.
• 34:50
  Yeah, that is such a telltale sign that our own allies are like.
• 34:55
  Y'all kind of on y'all own, man.
• 34:57
  And just to contrast that with how those governments behaved when it came to
• 35:06
  getting their citizens out of harm's way versus how we behave when it came to
• 35:13
  getting our citizens out of harm's way.
• 35:15
  Basically told people, good luck, find a way home.
• 35:18
  And everybody else is like, no, we got to go get our people.
• 35:21
  So the dude on Al Jazeera, he called that number that Marco Rubio was talking about on speaker.
• 35:29
  And the first message says, do not depend on the United States to get you out
• 35:36
  of where you are. That's nuts.
• 35:38
  It basically said, you know, seek shelter, et cetera, et cetera.
• 35:43
  This was how many days ago? I guess about five, six days ago.
• 35:46
  So they probably updated him by now. Yeah.
• 35:49
  But this was... I think he was in Israel at the time. I think he may have been in Tel Aviv.
• 35:54
  But I've seen videos of the basketball team from here.
• 35:59
  Well, a couple of American girls were over in Israel. Oh, wow.
• 36:02
  You know, and she was just like, I need to get the hell out of here. Right.
• 36:07
  It's crazy. And...
• 36:11
  Imminent threat came from your own government. That's like the wildest part to me.
• 36:19
  Had we not bombed, everyone would have been okay.
• 36:24
  Of course, there's always travel risk. Yeah.
• 36:28
  But for the most part, everyone would have did what they had to do and came on back home.
• 36:35
  But because we decided to bomb just out of nowhere, and like He didn't even
• 36:41
  give him a week like he did last time. Right.
• 36:44
  Because the strikes in last June or whenever it was last summer,
• 36:48
  it was like, we're going to give you a week. But then he like bombed him like the next day.
• 36:52
  He didn't even give a warning this time. He just like bombed.
• 36:55
  Well, did you see the video where Harvey Levin was doing a split screen interview
• 36:59
  with the I want to say the guy worked for Wall Street Journal?
• 37:02
  But he said live on air two days before it happened that he said,
• 37:06
  yeah, he was like, I got to tell you what I just overheard on the other table. when he was in D.C.
• 37:11
  And Harvey Levin, it's out there. It was on TMZ. Harvey Levin said,
• 37:14
  what? He said, I think we're about to bomb Iran. He said that two days before the bomb.
• 37:19
  Harvey Levin was like, what? He said, who was it? He was like,
• 37:22
  well, obviously, I'm not going to tell you. He said, but yeah.
• 37:26
  And in the comments section, there were people, there was a lady that said she
• 37:31
  used to be a server at a restaurant in D.C.
• 37:33
  And she said she would go home and talk to her husband and go,
• 37:36
  yeah, I think we're about to do X, Y, and Z.
• 37:38
  And then it'd show up on the news two or three days because she
• 37:41
  could just hear conversations taking place wow republican
• 37:45
  democratic don't matter just running your damn mouth in
• 37:48
  the middle of a damn restaurant yeah yeah
• 37:52
  i mean again we're we're we're saying a lot here but we just really want to
• 37:57
  say that while we support the troops we acknowledge that this war did not have
• 38:03
  to happen yeah we don't support this war yeah we don't we don't support this war is It's going to be.
• 38:10
  Much more detrimental than it will be a benefit for the American people.
• 38:17
  And if you don't believe me, I mean, just really be honest and sit back and
• 38:22
  ask yourself, how does bombing Iran help you in your day-to-day life?
• 38:30
  Chances are the only changes to your life are going to be detriments and not
• 38:36
  benefits because everything is going to be more expensive.
• 38:41
  Traveling outside of the United States will most likely become more of a challenge for Americans.
• 38:50
  Again, we're making enemies.
• 38:53
  So if we look at history, we'll go back to the Gulf War, 1990.
• 38:59
  The economy with the Wall Street in this country tends to react pretty quick to oil issues.
• 39:06
  So in 1990 when Iraq invaded Kuwait, oil prices doubled.
• 39:13
  Because $15 in the mid-1990s to nearly in mid-1990s to nearly $40 by October.
• 39:24
  That's nuts. Keep in mind what I said. When Iraq invaded Kuwait,
• 39:29
  not when we went to war, But just the fact that Iraq invaded Kuwait, it doubled.
• 39:36
  What do you think that's going to do nowadays? Because I think already crude
• 39:40
  has gone up, what, from 70 to, yeah, it went from 70 to $83 a barrel in a few days.
• 39:49
  You had LNG suspend production,
• 39:55
  cutter energy suspended production, and then it said that gas prices across
• 40:01
  Europe and Asia will probably spike 40 to 50 percent in some markets.
• 40:07
  Let's talk some more about this global impact that this war is going to have
• 40:12
  negatively and positively if there is a positive.
• 40:16
  Yeah, I was about to say, I don't think there's a positive.
• 40:19
  I think just the, it's not just going to hit us. I mean, everything that we
• 40:23
  discuss is going to happen to us. It's going to happen everywhere else. For sure.
• 40:27
  And it's similar to how we talked about tariffs a couple of weeks ago. For sure.
• 40:31
  That people need to understand that these corporations are not your friends.
• 40:36
  There's nobody in these corporations sitting at the top saying,
• 40:39
  well, hey, we can't raise a canned good from $0.89 to $2.
• 40:45
  Nobody's saying that. They're saying, let's take it from $0.89 to $3.50 to alter.
• 40:51
  I mean, and I saw it. How much did it cost us to send in these goods?
• 40:55
  Oh, okay. Yeah. We're just going to take that 50% and add that on to the cost.
• 41:00
  Yeah. You saw it. You've mentioned in the past. You worked in- Oh, for sure. For decades.
• 41:06
  For sure. My previous job was involved with delivery trucks.
• 41:10
  You know, I watched the price of ice cream go up over five years and a little
• 41:16
  bit of the food that we deliver to.
• 41:18
  And it's just like you walk into these stores and you go, OK,
• 41:22
  so this pint of Ben and Jerry's when I got hired was four dollars.
• 41:27
  When I left that company, a part of Ben & Jerry's was $7.
• 41:31
  So, so to, to, to, to, to make this plain, right?
• 41:39
  After the Supreme Court smacked down his tariffs, he initiated a 15% global tariff on the world.
• 41:48
  So, so, so, so basically...
• 41:52
  How am I? I'm trying to I'm trying to word this correctly.
• 41:57
  When you when you when you do the math, take this 15 percent tariff, global tariff,
• 42:07
  add that to the additional cost for all of your everyday goods from this war.
• 42:12
  And again, just realize that this guy does not care about working class,
• 42:22
  average American people. He'll be okay.
• 42:27
  Kids will be okay. You know, all of those guys with their cabinet positions,
• 42:32
  they'll be okay. They won't be affected.
• 42:34
  They won't have the same financial woes that the rest of us are about to face.
• 42:41
  So this is another reason why it's okay to criticize the war because it's going
• 42:48
  to have a negative impact financially on the majority of Americans and the world,
• 42:55
  like you were saying, because shipping costs don't just affect America.
• 42:59
  No, yeah. Shipping costs are going to affect everyone across the world who imports.
• 43:06
  Everyone's goods are going to go up simultaneously.
• 43:10
  So I don't know who said this, but I saw it in an article somewhere and I made sure to take a note of it.
• 43:16
  It said the system is built so that corporations privatize their profits during
• 43:21
  peacetime, but socialize their financial pain during a crisis.
• 43:26
  I just sat there and thought about that. I'm like, that's true. Chaos is profitable.
• 43:32
  Oh, we ain't taking a hit on this. That stock price needs to continue to rise.
• 43:37
  Because even if a stock price goes from $40 to $38, it may not seem like a lot to you and I.
• 43:44
  People's heads are rolling at companies when that happens. So what they're doing
• 43:48
  is they're trying to raise that price and keep that profit. I'm just sitting here thinking.
• 43:55
  The Dow is up 50,000 well
• 43:59
  it's down now what do you got to say now it's it's way down now the fact that
• 44:06
  that was even said yeah and somebody up there should have been like what is
• 44:11
  you talking about they absolutely should have asked her that what does it have
• 44:15
  to do with anything? Nothing. Nothing.
• 44:18
  I'm sorry. I got us off. I just had to say that because it was on my mind.
• 44:25
  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so so to get back on topic, to get back on point.
• 44:31
  I think we all just need to get out of our indoctrination about we have to support
• 44:41
  the president and we have to support wars and actually realize how this is going
• 44:46
  to just hurt so many people.
• 44:48
  Not just the innocent people that are going to get killed, not just the innocent
• 44:53
  people in Iran, but Iran, they're striking any and everywhere that the U.S. has a base.
• 45:01
  So all of the innocent people who are going to get killed in Bahrain and all
• 45:07
  of those places across the Middle East.
• 45:09
  So many people are going to get hurt from a war that just did not have to take
• 45:16
  place. This has nothing to do with Iran being an evil empire.
• 45:21
  Okay. No one's saying that they're the good guys.
• 45:25
  Right. Yeah. No one is saying that at all.
• 45:29
  We're just saying that we did not need to make this attack.
• 45:35
  There was no imminent danger.
• 45:38
  They did not attack us first. Mr. G.I. joke.
• 45:42
  They didn't attack us first. Okay. we started this.
• 45:47
  So all of your tough guy, we're going to kill everything that moves.
• 45:53
  Again, that's why his kids need to be over there. You know what makes me mad
• 45:57
  about him? Obviously, I didn't serve in the military. My father was in the military.
• 46:00
  Uncles, cousins, etc.
• 46:04
  Him wear that pocket square like he's some type of war hero it
• 46:07
  infuriates me like it does i'm
• 46:10
  just sitting there like is this dude even like
• 46:14
  i don't know what he did i mean i know he served during war
• 46:18
  time so i'm not saying he wasn't serving but i'm not saying is there any proof
• 46:23
  that he ever saw any type of combat well my whole thing is is is what you were
• 46:29
  saying earlier you have to be some kind of evil so they're enjoying this yeah to to to actually.
• 46:38
  Like treat this like like like like you were saying
• 46:41
  like excuse me like it's a video game like you're trying to just amass points
• 46:48
  for for every person you kill it is it's just weird to So they posted another
• 46:54
  video of NFL hits, and every time there was a hit,
• 46:59
  they would show a bomb blowing something up in Iran.
• 47:02
  I saw that before I came over here today, and I'm just like,
• 47:06
  because it was on Don Lemon's page. I'm like, man, come on, man. No, seriously.
• 47:11
  Just stop. From the official White House page. People are dying.
• 47:16
  Every bomb that hits a target, someone dies. Or something is just altered.
• 47:23
  Somebody's life is just altered. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 47:27
  And and and I think that's kind of the only way to look at it is you you have to.
• 47:32
  And of course, we get it. There are no rules. Well, take it back.
• 47:36
  There are rules of engagement, which is another thing that G.I.
• 47:41
  Joke was talking about is we're not going to follow rules of engagement.
• 47:45
  Well, those rules of engagement are there to keep you from committing war crimes,
• 47:53
  which you've already kind of done.
• 47:56
  So good luck in the future, my guy. So that boat that we sang with a submarine
• 48:01
  shot hit it with a torpedo.
• 48:04
  Crew was headed back to Iran. They were coming from, God forgive me.
• 48:10
  It may have been Sri Lanka that
• 48:12
  they were coming back from. That boat was mostly filled with musicians.
• 48:17
  Oh, wow. Army musicians. Oh, wow. For Iran.
• 48:20
  So the problem that I have with it, I mean, war is war. I get it.
• 48:27
  The issue I have is it states in the Navy's creed somewhere,
• 48:33
  and it might not be their creed, but it states in rules of engagement somewhere
• 48:37
  that if you sink a boat, you have to offer help.
• 48:40
  You have to try to rescue. Right, right, right. You just can't sit there and let people drown.
• 48:44
  So now the Iranian vessel did send a mayday back to Sri Lanka.
• 48:50
  And in Sri Lanka, they came, but it took an hour.
• 48:53
  We offered no help. our submarine left the scene. The problem I have with that
• 48:58
  now, I don't know how many people passed, but they were able to rescue most of the people.
• 49:03
  In the future if one of our boats go down and you're let's say you're in the
• 49:07
  south china sea right man y'all be all right yeah y'all can just wait for one
• 49:12
  of your allies over there yeah
• 49:14
  to come and scoop you up which is why you have rules of engagement yes,
• 49:21
  because if you don't we're all they're all savages right exactly exactly and
• 49:27
  anything else you want to hit on, bro?
• 49:30
  Nah, because we can talk about that until midnight. Yeah, and I'm trying not
• 49:35
  to get my blood pressure up.
• 49:36
  Alright, as you guys probably noticed for the second week in a row,
• 49:40
  we're just going to skip current events and our work and we're going to move
• 49:45
  right into our five on the Black Hand Side movie review.
• 49:51
  And the movie we chose this week is New Jack City.
• 49:56
  Take it away, my brother. All right. So New Jack City was actually,
• 50:01
  it premiered first in January of 1991 at the Sundance Film Festival.
• 50:08
  Okay. It was not actually released nationwide until March 8th, 1991.
• 50:14
  As you mentioned before we started, $8 million budget, ended up grossing $47.6 million domestically.
• 50:21
  And during 91, it actually held the title as the highest grossing independent film.
• 50:28
  They call that an independent film? Well, it was. Interesting. Mm-hmm.
• 50:32
  The director, Mario Van Peeples, his first feature film that he directed.
• 50:38
  The writers were Thomas Lee Wright and Barry Michael Cooper did the,
• 50:43
  well, they both did the screenplay.
• 50:45
  The cast, Wesley Snipes as Nino Brown.
• 50:48
  For sure. Ice-T as Scotty Appleton, Detective Scotty Appleton.
• 50:53
  Alan Payne as G-Money. Yep. which G-Money was supposed to be played by a musician.
• 51:03
  Rapper or a singer? No, famous. He, I think it's in my, I think it's in. Okay. Okay.
• 51:10
  But it, when I saw it, I was like, what? Chris Rock is Pookie.
• 51:15
  Legendary role. Yeah. Judd Nelson. Yeah. Nick Peretti. Yeah.
• 51:20
  Mario Van Peoples as Stone. He was the leader of the police operation.
• 51:24
  Yeah. Michael Michelle as Selena Thomas, Nino's girlfriend.
• 51:28
  What's funny is they, When you look up the description of her in the movie,
• 51:32
  they have her listed as Nino's jealous girlfriend. I was like, what? Wow.
• 51:38
  Vanessa A. Williams as Keisha, who had some iconic lines. Oh, yeah.
• 51:47
  But, gosh, she did a horrible job in a couple of them scenes. Rock the bye, baby.
• 51:53
  When she say, back off, Gigantor.
• 51:57
  Or something like that. Not exactly what she said. bro. And Bill Nye.
• 52:01
  The Detterman. Yeah, the Detterman.
• 52:04
  Bitch is just hilarious. Yeah.
• 52:07
  Making fun of his speech impediment basically.
• 52:13
  I'm thinking when they were sitting around that table. He was like,
• 52:16
  no, what do you think? Detterman? Yeah.
• 52:20
  Williams. Christopher Williams. His first big acting role. Never liked you anyway. Yeah.
• 52:27
  Yeah. The fake Al B. Shore.
• 52:30
  Wait. I knew I knew him. Yo, he's 5'0".
• 52:34
  Legendary Bill Cobb was in this from the old Blaxploitation movies back in the day.
• 52:41
  A lot of cameos. Yes. And let's not forget, back when movie soundtracks meant something.
• 52:50
  But bro, think about it. We were coming up. When movies came out,
• 52:54
  we went to tours looking for that soundtrack. Oh, for sure.
• 52:57
  Because the soundtrack meant so much.
• 52:59
  Because back then a soundtrack was better than someone's CD.
• 53:03
  Oh, man. You know, you get a CD and you might get two, three good hits off of
• 53:08
  it, where a soundtrack, no skips. It just banged out.
• 53:12
  Yeah. Soundtrack, Color Me Bad, I Want to Sex You Up. Yep. Christopher Williams,
• 53:17
  I'm Dreamin'. Yep. Ice-T, New Jack Hustler. Yep.
• 53:20
  Troop, Levert, Koura Latifah, For the Love of Money, Living for the City,
• 53:26
  and then of course Guy, New Jack City.
• 53:28
  And then the missing track. You got Keith Sweat at the wedding.
• 53:34
  His song, excuse me y'all. But the missing track that I didn't realize,
• 53:39
  I guess I forgot that it was missing, but it couldn't get clear it didn't get
• 53:42
  cleared, was Welcome to the Terror Dome.
• 53:46
  Remember when Ice-T was chasing?
• 53:48
  Oh, that's right. welcome to the pterodome didn't get cleared so they weren't
• 53:53
  able to use it on the soundtrack interesting but you can use it in the damn
• 53:57
  movie right right it does not make sense um so so let's let's go with some of
• 54:01
  these cameos bro we got let's see it keeps sweat mm-hmm ashford and simpson oh yeah.
• 54:09
  Was actually singing on the corner around that can around that can Flava Flav had a cameo in it,
• 54:18
  Fab Five Freddy had a cameo did Guy perform at the club also at the New Year's
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  party I think Guy performed didn't he?
• 54:28
  Yeah yeah yeah so Guy Kelly uh Kelly my goodness Teddy Riley and Guy yeah they
• 54:34
  did they did New Jack Swing yeah yeah yeah yeah so it was full of um Full of cameos as well.
• 54:42
  Eager Mouse. Yeah. The Jamaican reggae dance hall. Yeah.
• 54:48
  Yeah, Fab Five Freddy. Fab Five Freddy being everything.
• 54:52
  Yeah, that's true. You couldn't do a New York joint without having that.
• 54:55
  When he popped up in American Gangsters, like, they don't Fab Five Freddy doing that. Yeah.
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  So that's just some of the cast. Let's get into the plot of this movie, bro.
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  So the plot I got it broken down So the rise of an empire basically So in the
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  80s New York Obviously the height crack epidemic It follows Nino Brown An ambitious,
• 55:20
  ruthless And highly intelligent street thug Realizing the massive financial
• 55:24
  potential Of this drug This new highly addictive drug Nino and his gang Cash
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  Money Brothers Violently take over an entire apartment complex In Harlem called
• 55:33
  the Carter The Carter They evict the tenants,
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  barricade the building, and turn it into a 24-7 highly organized crack manufacturing
• 55:40
  and distribution fortress.
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  And, of course, Nino quickly becomes a multimillionaire, ruling the streets, so on and so forth.
• 55:50
  Then, of course, they put together an undercover operation with Ice-T,
• 55:54
  Judd, Nelson, Mario Van Peoples, so on and so forth.
• 55:58
  So he was sent in to infiltrate.
• 56:00
  They used Pookie to infiltrate. Oh, man.
• 56:04
  Course he just keep calling him yeah keep calling me man keep calling me i gotta work to it.
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  Scotty help me i'm gonna die send that
• 56:20
  fool into a crack house with a
• 56:23
  with a camera on his belt yeah yeah and
• 56:26
  then he gonna be all right oh all that temptation around
• 56:30
  yeah yeah and then
• 56:33
  of course you just got little things
• 56:37
  happening here and there you know the the dispute with
• 56:39
  him and his girl and and g money's girl
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  air quotes so it
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  it it wasn't
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  just the infiltration of the carter that brought them down because i i honestly
• 56:57
  think that they could have recovered from the infiltration of the carter it
• 57:03
  was actually g money that brought them down g money and his jealousy.
• 57:10
  Ruined the entire operation but they did but they they said something like they
• 57:15
  were making like a million dollars a week which is nuts for back then 90s the
• 57:20
  early 90s you're making a million a week that's crazy but a million dollars
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  a week operation that G money,
• 57:29
  destroyed one because he wanted to be Nino and
• 57:33
  two because of that chick and the fact that he trying to do all these deals
• 57:39
  because remember when he was marching iced tea yeah off the basketball court
• 57:43
  yeah basically telling him like hey man I'm gonna be the man so yeah chill out
• 57:47
  that was that was that was his jealousy though because Nino took his chick yeah it's like bro,
• 57:52
  You can get another chick. Like, what are you doing?
• 57:56
  What are you doing? So, yeah.
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  Empire dies from within. It always does.
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  It's hard to break down an empire from the outside because they're just too strong.
• 58:09
  But if you can get the dam to start to crack from the inside,
• 58:14
  that's how you topple an empire.
• 58:17
  And G money was to crack G money and was smoking crack.
• 58:22
  But G money was the one who caused the empire to fall.
• 58:27
  It was all G money's fault. bro remember when that
• 58:31
  movie came out so when this movie came out what were
• 58:34
  we 16 about yeah because
• 58:37
  we were like fresh maybe yeah yeah no more we
• 58:40
  were older older than fresh we graduated yeah 17
• 58:43
  we graduated yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so shit
• 58:46
  we were juniors yeah so we were juniors remember
• 58:49
  when that scene happened when we found out that g money was
• 58:52
  smoking them rods hey it was nuts right straight
• 58:55
  off the cosby show right lance you
• 59:00
  lost me for like half a second i was like what yeah
• 59:03
  he was lance on the cosby show straight off the cosby show
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  in the bng money because at that time like
• 59:10
  that that rock was running rampant to where we grew oh for sure so to see that
• 59:15
  in the movie it was just like yo for sure this is wild really and i mean like
• 59:21
  it It was this this movie has such a cultural impact, right,
• 59:26
  that I know people who were saying silly.
• 59:30
  Silly, silly shit like let's go take over an apartment complex.
• 59:34
  And it's just like, get out of the movies, bro.
• 59:37
  Like, do you know how fast you'll be in jail?
• 59:42
  Let's go take over an apartment complex. I'm like, no, bro. So.
• 59:47
  Most people who have seen the movie may not have dug deep into it.
• 59:51
  This movie, Nino and G-Money are based on the Chamber Brothers from Detroit.
• 59:57
  BML? No, no, no. The Chamber Brothers. Oh, boy, them dudes were...
• 1:00:04
  Their property that they took over in Detroit was called the Broadmoor.
• 1:00:08
  And it was just like the Carter. So it was based on it. Okay.
• 1:00:11
  So the guy that helped write the screenplay, he wrote an article for the Village Voice. Okay.
• 1:00:17
  In Detroit on the Chamber Brothers. I'm going to have to do some research on
• 1:00:21
  this. So the movie was written based on the Chamber Brothers. Okay.
• 1:00:26
  And those are the dudes who, there's like a video that was circling on the internet
• 1:00:31
  a couple years ago from like the late 80s where they had waste baskets and laundry
• 1:00:36
  baskets full of $1 bills.
• 1:00:40
  And those are the ones that they would take and give to the community and go to strip clubs.
• 1:00:47
  They would famously not spend dollar bills. Oh, wow. Because it was beneath them. Oh, wow.
• 1:00:55
  Yeah. That much bread. Yeah. But they ran the Brawlmore.
• 1:00:59
  And that article that he wrote was called Kids Killing Kids.
• 1:01:02
  And then it was called New Jack City.
• 1:01:04
  Okay. And that's how he ended up coming up with the concept.
• 1:01:08
  Okay. For the movie. That's interesting. I'm going to definitely have to look that up.
• 1:01:12
  And then, of course, Nino's character. The story was based on the Chamber Brothers.
• 1:01:16
  But Nino's character was based on Nicky Barnes. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay.
• 1:01:21
  All right. Yeah, his character was based on Nicky Barnes. Yeah.
• 1:01:26
  Now, this is another, like, unknown fact, if you will, if you'll indulge. Mm-hmm.
• 1:01:35
  When you think of the warehouse scene.
• 1:01:38
  All of the stuff Nino was doing in that warehouse, how many cops he killed. Oh, yeah.
• 1:01:44
  All of that fantastical stuff he was doing.
• 1:01:48
  You know, he was also trying to get Black Panther made around that same time.
• 1:01:54
  And studios kept telling him no. He totally wanted to be T'Challa. Yeah.
• 1:02:00
  Back then in the 90s. And when you see some of the stuff he's doing in that
• 1:02:04
  warehouse, you can totally see him being T'Challa.
• 1:02:07
  Just like I'm like when I when I watch this as a grown up I'm just like man Nino was a bad boy.
• 1:02:15
  So and of course I think we talked about this on
• 1:02:18
  the pod he was supposed to be Ice-T's character Ice-T was supposed to be Nino
• 1:02:25
  Brown oh really and Martin was Pookie I knew that Martin was supposed to be
• 1:02:31
  Pookie I didn't know that Ice-T and Nino and Wesley Snipes was supposed to switch though,
• 1:02:37
  So what made him do it the other way?
• 1:02:40
  I think it was with Ice-T not wanting to play that type of character.
• 1:02:47
  Really? Because he was already, like, the way he was perceived.
• 1:02:50
  Associated with the gangster rap and everything. He didn't want.
• 1:02:53
  Oh, wow. But then, of course, Nino was advised, like, nah, man,
• 1:02:57
  this character's great for you.
• 1:02:59
  Based on the way he auditioned, they were like, nah, this character's great for you.
• 1:03:03
  I mean, this would kind of, like, shot Wesley Snipes into the stratosphere. It was.
• 1:03:08
  Yeah. I mean, Major League came out probably, what, a year before or the same
• 1:03:13
  year or something like that.
• 1:03:14
  But yeah, being Nino was just like, pew!
• 1:03:18
  His career took off after that. For the next six years, he was everywhere.
• 1:03:23
  Yeah, he was the man.
• 1:03:27
  Passenger 57 to Jungle Fever. Right.
• 1:03:30
  Man, just... All of those action movies he started getting.
• 1:03:34
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was Jason Statham before Jason Statham.
• 1:03:37
  And Nino is responsible for the MCU and Marvel, even though Blade wasn't an MCU movie.
• 1:03:48
  Blade kicked off the MCU. Blade made them realize that, excuse me,
• 1:03:55
  that superhero movies could be profitable and not just for comic book geeks.
• 1:04:00
  They were made the right way.
• 1:04:01
  If they were made the right way. One hundred percent.
• 1:04:05
  Yeah. As much as we loved Batman.
• 1:04:08
  Yeah, but it was kind of campy. It was corny. Yeah, it truly was.
• 1:04:12
  You wasted prime Michael Keaton and prime Jack Nicholson. Correct.
• 1:04:16
  Now, if it came on right now, I'd be like, oh, shoot, Batman.
• 1:04:19
  I'd watch it. Oh, for sure.
• 1:04:21
  But when I look at it now and I compare it to how dark Batman Begins was at
• 1:04:25
  the beginning of the Prince of Anola trilogy, it could have been made.
• 1:04:30
  You could have done that back then. There were darker movies back then.
• 1:04:33
  You could have done the same thing. Yeah, 100%. Thank you.
• 1:04:37
  100%. I know you're like, we're supposed to be talking about New Jack City,
• 1:04:42
  but it was relevant, guys. It was relevant.
• 1:04:46
  Oh, yeah. All that was relevant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was completely relevant.
• 1:04:49
  So like I was saying before I went on that tangent, G-Money is the reason that the empire crumbled.
• 1:05:00
  But in between them blowing up and the empire crumbling, there are some very memorable scenes.
• 1:05:09
  Nino on the back of the motorcycle when they did the drive by on the Italians.
• 1:05:15
  Which was a real life story. The famous picture of the Mafia Don laying back there. Yes.
• 1:05:22
  With the cigarettes still in his mouth. Yeah. Forget his name.
• 1:05:27
  The scene when he brought the
• 1:05:30
  black jockey in with the rope around his neck to antagonize Nino is that your
• 1:05:38
  gigantor scene right there when Nino took the jockey and broke it over his head
• 1:05:43
  yeah and pulled out that butterfly knife and cut that ponytail he was working that butterfly knife,
• 1:05:49
  I'm not going to say it you spent jelly eating,
• 1:05:54
  I'm not going to say it that's just 2026 just go watch that scene if you want to know what Nino called.
• 1:06:04
  Oh man yeah yeah,
• 1:06:08
  We must talk about the scene with the dog, man. When they all had on black. When they got raided.
• 1:06:17
  Christopher Williams got stabbed in the hand. Never liked you anyway.
• 1:06:21
  Never liked you anyway. Yeah.
• 1:06:23
  Yeah. That's the famous sit your five dollar ass down before I make change.
• 1:06:27
  Correct. Correct. How nervous they all were.
• 1:06:31
  Man. Man, bro. It's just, man.
• 1:06:34
  That scene was memorable. and I'm wondering what year did Untouchables come out?
• 1:06:41
  89, I want to say. 88 or 89. So I wonder if that might have been inspired by
• 1:06:47
  that scene with the baseball bat.
• 1:06:49
  De Niro bust the old boy head with that baseball bat. That's interesting.
• 1:06:53
  And I never thought about it until just now.
• 1:06:55
  Probably. I mean, I know how much you like Kevin Costner, so I wanted to bring that up.
• 1:06:59
  Oh, man. You know I hate Kevin Costner, but I do love Untouchables, though.
• 1:07:04
  I know, yeah. That, that, that's such a good movie, but man,
• 1:07:07
  Hey, see now you're about to make me angry, bro.
• 1:07:12
  But you know what? I always think of to go on another tangent.
• 1:07:16
  And I, again, I, this movie was so cultural.
• 1:07:20
  It was the Martin scene when they stole his, uh, this player or whatever. Bro, man.
• 1:07:27
  And he had, he had the fake dog.
• 1:07:30
  Like Nino had, they all had on black.
• 1:07:35
  When that fool said, come on now, and the dog had fell over and he was dragging it by the chain.
• 1:07:41
  You ever hear Cole talk about that?
• 1:07:45
  He talked about that when he was on with Math Alpha, where he said that the original...
• 1:07:52
  Was calling for a German Shepherd. But they couldn't get some type of insurance
• 1:07:56
  clearance or something.
• 1:07:58
  And they wanted to scrap the whole scene and Martin was like,
• 1:08:01
  oh no, to hell with that. And then Martin went out and bought that damn dog.
• 1:08:04
  Yeah, and he told it to sit and it fell over and he was like, lay.
• 1:08:09
  Tommy was over there fighting for his life. All of them.
• 1:08:12
  All of them, bro. None of them could stay in character.
• 1:08:16
  They all had smirks on their faces. They were all trying so hard not to laugh during that scene.
• 1:08:22
  Oh man, I'm trying to think What else are some memorable scenes The wedding scene,
• 1:08:27
  The shootout at the wedding And uh That little baby And used her as a shield
• 1:08:35
  Yeah, Nino was ruthless,
• 1:08:37
  heartless Yeah In the end Spoiler alert Nino actually kills G-Money Yes But Nino We all we got.
• 1:08:53
  Yeah, nah, you got to go, bro. You got to go. See you, B.
• 1:08:58
  See you, B. We always got. Little known fact.
• 1:09:04
  Script called Fanino to live. Oh, interesting. And he said no.
• 1:09:09
  He said, you have to kill me.
• 1:09:11
  Interesting. Because he didn't want to make a sequel. It was supposed to be a sequel.
• 1:09:14
  He didn't want to live. He was like, no. You have to kill me.
• 1:09:18
  You can't let that character live.
• 1:09:20
  Hey, he was so cold in court. He was like, I'm taking down everybody.
• 1:09:25
  Oh, he was so cold. Man. What was funny, though, was after he did that,
• 1:09:30
  how smooth he sat back down and called his lawyer up. Yeah.
• 1:09:34
  And then told Ice-T, don't worry. When this is all over, you can come work for me.
• 1:09:43
  When he shot him, he fell. Nelson would smile, put the glasses on,
• 1:09:49
  and start walking. Yeah.
• 1:09:51
  Great movie. Great movie. Great movie. So we just gave it away.
• 1:09:56
  We don't even need to rate this thing, right? I mean, it's just great.
• 1:10:01
  It's a great movie. Classic. And it's one that, yeah, you're going to have some
• 1:10:06
  dialogue in there that might not be up to par in 2026.
• 1:10:10
  But, I mean, for the most part, not really.
• 1:10:14
  Listen, when you think great gangster movies. Yeah, it's up there.
• 1:10:20
  You think The Godfather.
• 1:10:22
  Oh, yeah. You think Scarface. You think Goodfellas.
• 1:10:26
  New Jack City is in there. It belongs in there with the great gangster movies.
• 1:10:33
  This is a classic y'all don't sleep on the fact that it has a majority black cast.
• 1:10:40
  New Jack city is a classic.
• 1:10:43
  Go watch it. Check it out. And although Mario van peoples reminds me a lot of.
• 1:10:49
  Does it like to throw themselves in movies? Oh, for sure. Which he does.
• 1:10:52
  I thought that he did a great job directing this movie. Oh, he did.
• 1:10:57
  This actually put him on another level. Oh, yeah. As far as directing also.
• 1:11:01
  Well, it got him out of that. His father's campy. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:05
  Controversial. Yeah. Crazy ass movies from the Senate. Yeah.
• 1:11:09
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. This also. Because you said that this was his first directorial.
• 1:11:15
  Yeah, it was his feature film directorial. directorial but but he had done like
• 1:11:18
  some comedy skits and stuff right just kind of like some kind of goofy yeah
• 1:11:23
  type stuff so yeah so this this put him on a i'm here i'm here to stay take me serious,
• 1:11:32
  as a director i mean he was everywhere in the
• 1:11:34
  90s too oh for sure for sure but this this led for what
• 1:11:37
  posse posse yep about uh black
• 1:11:40
  cowboys for him and all of that and again he said
• 1:11:43
  he got to put himself in his movies but i get
• 1:11:46
  it i i i'd probably do the
• 1:11:49
  same thing in that movie oh yes
• 1:11:52
  i am the league i know why you're saying that but we ain't gonna go into that
• 1:11:56
  but maybe that's one we can get into on a future episode we haven't we haven't
• 1:12:03
  we haven't discussed that yet correct that's the same reason like when uh why
• 1:12:08
  tarantino get criticized so much for from dust to on.
• 1:12:12
  Oh, I got you. You just had to throw yourself in that scene.
• 1:12:15
  I feel you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:12:18
  All right, y'all. So, like we were just saying, we consider this movie great.
• 1:12:22
  It is a classic. So, yeah, we don't even need to go into how many high fives.
• 1:12:29
  So, we're just going to push right on through to our closing monologue.
• 1:12:33
  My brother, the floor is yours. Take it away.
• 1:12:37
  Appreciate it. So, I want to talk about something that's been kind of sitting heavy on me.
• 1:12:41
  You and I talk about community a lot, but part of being in a community is having
• 1:12:47
  enough self-respect to stand up for it.
• 1:12:50
  Man. You're a black man. I'm not of Spanish descent. You're not of Spanish descent.
• 1:12:55
  And I don't speak the language.
• 1:12:57
  But I know what it looks like when a culture is being insulted.
• 1:13:01
  And I know a pattern when I see one.
• 1:13:04
  You see, at this summit in Miami, Donald Trump stands up in front of a room
• 1:13:08
  full of our neighbors and says, I quote, I'm not learning your damn language. I don't have time.
• 1:13:15
  And then his secretary of defense, Pete Hexeth, follows it up with a joke about
• 1:13:20
  how he only speaks American.
• 1:13:22
  And what does Marco Rubio do? A son of Cuban immigrants.
• 1:13:26
  He just stands there, bows his head, accepts the insult like it's part of the job.
• 1:13:32
  That's what gets me. It's one thing to have a different political view.
• 1:13:35
  It's another to let someone spit on your history to your face while you just take it.
• 1:13:40
  And it isn't just the Latin leaders. I'm looking at the black men in this administration too.
• 1:13:46
  Where's the pride? Where's the backbone.
• 1:13:49
  You have to stop aligning yourselves to be the punchline of someone else's joke.
• 1:13:54
  If you have to strip away who you are just to fit in with people who clearly
• 1:13:58
  don't respect you and you aren't leading, you're just following.
• 1:14:02
  My co-host and I, we stand in total solidarity with everyone being targeted
• 1:14:07
  by this ignorance today.
• 1:14:08
  We owe it to the next generation to never let ourselves be someone else's doormat.
• 1:14:14
  If you're in, if you're going to be in the room, stand up straight.
• 1:14:18
  Otherwise, that chair is not worth sitting in.
• 1:14:22
  Excellent. Byron Donalds? Tim Scott?
• 1:14:27
  Just saying. You can be Republican. I cannot understand it.
• 1:14:34
  Understand. You and I can go back to when we were teenagers.
• 1:14:38
  Why are you allowing your dignity to be disrespected so much?
• 1:14:42
  Just to fit in. Colin Powell never sacrificed his blackness.
• 1:14:47
  But they never put him in situations.
• 1:14:51
  Exactly. But if they did, he probably would have knocked one of their asses out.
• 1:14:55
  That's the difference too. You're not about to talk crazy to him. Correct.
• 1:15:00
  Alright y'all. that concludes
• 1:15:03
  this episode of for the fam
• 1:15:06
  podcast episode 24 we appreciate you guys tuning in we hope that you enjoyed
• 1:15:12
  we hope we gave you guys some pertinent information we hope we gave you guys
• 1:15:17
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• 1:15:23
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• 1:15:26
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• 1:15:51
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