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After the Election: Reflections, Regrets, and What Comes Next for Ohio and America · Common Sense Ohio

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This day in history, Norm.
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The United States of America opted to elect to the Senate a Marxist Sharia law extremist from Michigan.
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El said, we have put anti gun people in Congress, we have elected to proceed with socialism in this country and all the trimmings that go with that.
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That's my joke of the day, I guess.
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Yeah.
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I will say this, there's a couple interesting things that I thought were relevant on this day in 1956.
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All right.
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To you Marxists out there who think communism, it's all that.
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A spontaneous national uprising that began 12 days before in Hungary is viciously crushed by Soviet tanks on November 4, 1956.
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Thousands were killed and wounded.
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Nearly a quarter million Hungarians fled the country.
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This is the old fashioned Soviet bloc countries and they didn't like being under the jackboot of Khrushchev and the Soviets.
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So they tried to rebel, but alas, it was too late.
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What they've, you know, what they voted for, they got hard and fast, which is death, destruction and exile.
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And eventually the leader of Hungary of course was executed two years later.
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They lamented that the freedom that the Americans enjoyed, we didn't come and help them.
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Eisenhower spoke against it, but it didn't happen.
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And that's I think a telling historical reminder of what Communism has brought upon this earth.
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Whenever tried.
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So those who think they can do it better.
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Yeah,.
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Perhaps at least, at least acknowledge the history books and understand where it's gone awry in the past and offer some explanation as to why you're not going to kill millions of people.
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Yeah.
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So as opposed to the violence that's taking place in Europe right now which is pro socialist, the Hungarians were fighting for freedom.
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They were fighting against social.
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That was after, after the violence in France.
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So put this in.
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You've got the first set of violence is we want to be communists and socialists because it's awesome and utopian and we're Going get everything free,.
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Right?
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And then five years later, you realize, oh, it's not what I bargained for.
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Now we've given you all this power to tell us everything that we have to do, everything we want to do.
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We can't.
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Y.
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Norm, you want to go to college.
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I'm sorry you didn't pass the test.
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You're not a party man.
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Guess what you're going to be.
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You're going to bang nails, or you're going to be a railroad worker, or you're going to create these big cinder block apartments,.
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Right?
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You're not of college ilk.
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So therefore, you don't go because, after all, from each according to his ability and to each according to his needs,.
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Or because you're a smarty mouth on a podcast, you can just go to the Gulag.
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Yeah, well, we wouldn't survive, not here,.
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You know,.
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So.
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So,.
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Yeah, Hillary wanted to put us in concentration camps, and maybe we're a couple steps closer to that,.
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Perhaps.
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So, yeah, it was a bloodbath yesterday, no question about it.
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For.
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For freedom, for individual rights, for property rights.
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You know, de Tocqueville gave this famous speech to the French parliament wherein he said, socialism at its base is anti property.
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It is.
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It is.
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It.
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It denies personal freedom to live the lifestyle that you want.
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It is against your.
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Your right to own property.
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And in order to enforce that, it is naturally also anti free speech, anti free thought, and wants to naturally, at the end of the day, reduce everybody to the same level of misery.
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Yeah, you're not elevating anybody.
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You're.
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Not elevating anybody and,.
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Well, except your cronies who might be in charge.
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Well, and if you look at the, you know, human beings always want it good for themselves.
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And this is, you know, part of.
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Of what drives both ambition and, on its flip side, envy.
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Human beings want specialness for themselves.
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You know, rules for thee, but not for me.
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So you have this system of the Soviet leaders living in their deluxe DAs.
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You know, you.
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You've got the Iranian mullahs, who themselves have Swiss bank accounts and yachts and all their stuff.
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And it'll be the same way if America were to turn full Commie.
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And, you know, I think.
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I think things people don't understand or haven't really thought through is we have been socialist light for almost 100.
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I was gonna say 50 to 100 years.
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Yeah.
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I.
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Mean, certainly since the Great Society.
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Well, and I would go back, you know, to, in.
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1960,.
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Woodrow Wilson even, and.
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And what he wanted to do with World Government.
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He didn't get his Lee.
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He didn't get us into the League of Nations, but he certainly was looking even.
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And.
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We're talking turn of the century, 1900.
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Ish.
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Yeah.
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I forget his exact president.
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World War I.
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Ish.
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Well, before Woodrow was what's.
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He was our World War I president.
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That's right.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, really.
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And a little bit like Dr.
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Biden running the White House for Joe, Mrs.
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Woodrow Wilson pretty much ran the White House when Woodrow became infirm.
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And at any rate.
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Yeah.
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1913 to 1921.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So.
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And by the way, he said this check and balance, these checks and balances implemented by our founders were only a burden.
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We no longer need this.
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I'm far more sophisticated now.
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So we're going to create departments and agencies.
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Departments of whatever.
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Departments of whatever.
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So those of you who are chastising Trump with his pen and his administrative power can blame Woodrow Wilson for the creation of it.
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And then later, fdr, who drove a.
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Not just a semi truck, but rather like, what was the giant.
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The Big Bertha mining machine that they use.
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Yeah.
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You know, he drove.
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You know, he destroyed it.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, the thing is, Trump has been disassembling the administrative state more so than any president in the last hundred years.
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He has basically disassembled and.
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And made useless the Department of Education, for example.
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It just.
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It no longer exists.
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And, you know, Ronald Reagan promised to get rid of the Department of Education.
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Well, Trump basically has done that.
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And the decline, I think, were somewhere around 15% fewer federal workers than when he took office.
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So, you know, you can look at Doge and some of his cost cutting as ruthless or however you want to frame it, but he has done quite a bit.
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He has been a very consequential president, unfortunately, back to our socialism light.
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Some of what Trump has also, you know, offered as gimmicks,.
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You.
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Know, like this $90 in the last couple weeks that every Social Security recipient got, you know, as some kind of statement that, hey, you got ripped off during the COVID years to an average of $90.
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So right before the election in pops 90 bucks into the bank accounts of everybody who's wired into Social Security.
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How'd that work out?
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Yeah, I mean, and then he offered, if.
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If I get, you know, a good midterm, I'm going to.
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Every adult American is going to get $5,000, you know, and.
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And you're like.
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And he.
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He called it a dividend for the tariffs.
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And you're like, how about just reduce the national debt.
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And, and then the Trump accounts where we're gonna, we're gonna jack in for kids born between this date and this other specific date.
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No other children.
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Right.
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No adults, but just kids.
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Between this finite date and that finite date, America is gonna it out of its treasury, going to dump a thousand bucks and then, and, and, and get them, get them thinking about the free market that way.
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Well, that the free market doesn't start out with taking money from everybody else.
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Right.
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It's, it's an anti.
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Lesson.
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He's giving these kids your money.
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Yeah,.
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Right.
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He's taking money from the.
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And, or ye.
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And giving it to the, or whatever.
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However you want to say it.
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It's,.
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It couldn't be more socialist.
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It couldn't be more.
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And you know, I, I've said this Trump.
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Well,.
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He's not a movement conservative.
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I don't think.
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He's not.
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He's never been an ideological conservative.
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He, he doesn't.
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He's a business guy that just operates with what's in front of him and does it.
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Yeah,.
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I think he's gotten a little better with it and studied some of the, some of the thoughts of the conservative thinkers.
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But that is not a conservative policy at all.
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In no way, shape or form.
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And.
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It didn't work.
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It didn't work.
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At the end of the day,.
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Not gonna work.
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They called BS on the whole thing.
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It's not going to work.
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And you know, other commentators I've heard have said this, and it's quite true.
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The Republicans have no business competing with the Democrats with a socialist agenda, which.
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Giveaways.
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We can't win that fight, guys.
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They're going to do more of it always.
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No, they're just, all they're going to do is take these Trump accounts and go.
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You know, that was for those kids in that bracket between this date born this date and born that date.
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And you know, they're the lucky winners of the American lottery.
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Right.
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They're just going to say, well, that was kind of unfair.
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Let's give it to everybody.
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Let's do that for everybody.
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Right.
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And let's not make it $1,000.
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Let's make it $10,000.
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And then down the road somebody will say, well, $10,000 adjusted.
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Inflation.
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Yeah.
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And.
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You're off and running, and pretty soon you're disgorging chunks of money from people who are working their ass off to, to acquire it, many of whom didn't get it from a parent who just, you know, kicked off and
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said, here, Junior, here's a Couple million bucks that I saved up and, and didn't spend.
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So now it's yours.
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Well, not everybody who has savings got it that way.
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A lot of people went without the bass boat and the big TV and the, in the remodeled kitchen and all the, and the second home, you know, down in Gatlinburg or whatever.
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People, some people as you know, Steve, because we know who, we know plenty of people like that and maybe somebody here at the table to take money from.
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People who have worked hard, all that sweat equity and just with the casual idea that well, they got it unfairly.
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Like Obama said, you didn't build that.
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You didn't build that.
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You know,.
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Government built.
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Government.
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Elon Musk,.
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The collective built.
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Collective gave you that money.
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So it's just.
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So we're going to take it back.
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I think, I think some of the lessons for me this is, and I talked about this last week, for me the big disappointment is how and this will piss off people.
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But, but I don't care.
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I'm in the business of pissing people off, I guess.
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But you know, it's time for a reality check with my fiscally conservative, my morally and ethically righteous and I don't mean that in a put down way, I mean that in a sincere way.
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People who believe in patriotism, people who, who believe in doing, treating others as they would want to be treated and believe that freedom of expression and freedom to practice religion or not religion is a basic right.
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I would say to them it is time to get off the fence.
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Half of our electorate is unaffiliated and I got a lot to say about that.
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It feels real good to sit around the bar or go to a wine party or go to, you know, sit down and have a cheeseburger with, with your buddies and say, well, I'm not a Democrat, of course, but
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I'm also not a Republican.
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I'm,.
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I'm.
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An xyz.
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Let me finish here, let me finish on this because what that does is several things.
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In our making it mechanically in our elections when you bail out because the Republican Party is not perfect and it is far from perfect.
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It is really messed up.
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But like any enterprise, when you pull out of it, you also pull out of, of your responsibility to try to make it better.
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And in our two party system, ask Ross Perot's supporters when you bail, okay, on a party and like a pouting child, decide you're going to cross party lines to show those some bitches Republicans a thing or two because
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gas prices are high, there's A war in Iran.
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And you don't like that data center making humming noises at night with its klieg lights on.
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And you're righteously and you are correctly upset about those things, that's fine.
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But when you bail out of being a party member, guess what you also bail out on.
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You do not affect the party platform.
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You will have no say because you're not at their convention.
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Number two, you will have no effect on who the candidates are to run in the general election because you don't vote in the primary as a Republican.
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So what happens is we get guys like Ramaswamy, 41 years old, has never held office.
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You get people like Amy Acton, 60 years old, has never held office.
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These are the two poor choices that we were shoved down our throats here in Ohio.
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Trump never, never should have anointed Ramaswamy as his guy 18 months before the election.
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What that did, Steve, it denied the Republicans of their vetting process.
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And that's called a primary.
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Y.
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And for the people who want to be, oh, I'm a purist, I'm a libertarian, or I'm some other kind of thing, or I'm unaffiliated.
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I'm not one of those dirty Republicans.
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All you did by not being a Republican is you allowed Donald Trump to select who are.
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Our candidate was for governor.
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There were no debates.
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We didn't really know what Ramaswamy wanted to do vis a vis data centers until around Labor Day when he invented a policy out of thin air.
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This is the failure to become engaged.
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And I'm sorry that we're only a two party country, but we are.
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That's the reality.
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Maybe we should have four or five parties that really can get elected, but we don't.
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So when you bail out of the party that you pretty much vote for, but they're imperfect.
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So I'm not going to call myself a Republican.
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I'm more comfortable that way.
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All you do is help perpetuate the shitty candidates that we get, like John Huston, terrible candidate.
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The Republicans in our state, Steve, hid from their own constituencies by not having transparent government for 40 years.
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You know, Rhodes, Voinovich, Kasich, Taft, DeWine, these guys orchestrated giveaways and gimmicks and things for industry and even labor.
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Right?
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You know, to try to buy votes and to try to solidify themselves in power.
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And they did that with things like Jobs Ohio.
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That good candidates who we never got to put into this election, like Dave Yost, he wanted to audit Jobs Ohio.
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He wanted to expose where the spending was.
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And, and the machine, the GOP machine in Ohio squeezed Dave Yost out of his chance to run for governor.
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And that's the tragedy of not being involved.
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So, Steve, one of the big lessons is we're a country of selfish babies who pout over temporary things like fuel prices because of the straight of Hormuz.
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And, and it's going to get resolved and prices will come down.
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And now we're stuck with a Democratic Senate in the, in the United States Senate at 54 to 44.
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I mean, they're going to get rid of the filibuster.
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We're stuck with a Democratic House with Hakeem Jeffries as the new speaker.
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And, and like you said, we've got this socialist Islamic nut job from Michigan, you know, and Susan Collins is gone.
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John Husted is gone.
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Texas is gone.
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Texas is gone.
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And, and John Thune, who could have passed because Mike Johnson sent him the Save America Voting Protection Act.
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Wouldn't do it.
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Three times.
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Yeah.
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Wouldn't do it.
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Wouldn't get rid of the filibuster.
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You and I know the filibuster.
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It's gone, man.
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Yeah, it's gone.
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It's gone.
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It's gone.
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And.
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They're going to run roughshod.
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There's not.
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I mean, we have.
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What's it take to overcome the veto?
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Two thirds.
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Yeah,.
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They don't quite have that.
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They don't have that.
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So we've got two years of veto power,.
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But we have a lot of scared Republicans in the Senate.
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Yeah.
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Who didn't run this particular.
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You.
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Know,.
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Only a third were up for election.
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So now in two years, another third of those senators will be up.
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So, so,.
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And if, and if the Senate does something in the meantime, like in grain,.
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That's.
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Ballot harvesting, filibuster, gone.
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I mean, heck, why not just make Puerto Rico and let's see, as states.
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Right.
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Let's get, let's add four more to our side.
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And unlike, unlike what a lot of people think, the number of justices on the Supreme Court.
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That's not in the Constitution.
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No, it is not.
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The, the,.
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It's not.
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Also, it's also not clear that Congress has the ability to pack it.
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But it does say Congress can set up a system of the judiciary.
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Yeah,.
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Right.
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And under that basis, now Trump's got the, he's got the veto pen.
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Just like in, in, in the state of Ohio, we still have a Republican House and Senate.
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So they're probably not going to pass up to Governor Amy Acton a whole lot of the legislation that she wants.
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Yeah,.
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But she has the ability as the executive.
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She's going to start signing orders.
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Look, she's the one to shut us down.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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It was her choice.
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Right.
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Now, I don't think it was really her choice, but she was the one that said it was her choice.
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Yeah, DeWine claims that was my decision.
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Well.
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Well, you know what?
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She was right there as the puppet to do it.
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That's right.
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And then she.
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And then when things got tough in the middle of COVID she bailed.
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Yeah, well, look, it's very stressful.
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It's stressful.
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She needed a drink,.
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Dude.
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Right?
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We are.
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Yeah, it's.
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Things are really a mess and I'll be, I'll be honest.
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I was hoping, you know, I was in a dream world thinking that even in Minnesota, Michelle to Foya might win and she lost by 10 points.
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Yeah.
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So.
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We got.
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Look, it's.
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Steve Hilton lost his governor in California by.
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By like 30 points.
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Yeah.
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It's catastrophic.
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Catastrophic.
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So, look, America's going to get what it voted for, good and hard, as they say.
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Yep.
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And.
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Yep.
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I don't know there's much.
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The real question now is what happens in 2028?
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We've got a fractured party, as you've pointed out.
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And I.
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To your point, Norm, not picking a side is picking a side.
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Yes, it is.
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That's right.
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And the real question is, why not pick a side?
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And it's because of the pressure.
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There's so much.
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There's so much shade cast your way if you say this or you say that, and that probably goes both ways.
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So you, you, you, you claim a little virtue.
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You fly your little virtue flag like, I'm independent.
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I don't.
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I'm not a Trump guy.
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And then maybe you're secretly voting or whatever, but every time you don't advocate, every time you don't get involved, every time you say I don't care, you.
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You know, you.
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This is.
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We have to care.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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I struggle with this.
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Yesterday I actually called a friend of mine and I said, look, help me out here because, look, I have faith.
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I'm a man of faith.
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I texted you that.
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I'm a man of faith.
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Who are.
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And you know, what's our obligation in this world as we live it, as we occupy it?
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Because I think we are a little bit farcical to say God.
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God cares about these human affairs.
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And on the other hand, who are we not to say God care.
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Care about these human affairs?
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Right.
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So it's Easy to throw up your hands.
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And I'm saying this to maybe the, the Christian right.
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It's easy to throw up your hand, say God's got us.
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But I think God gives us an obligation to, to choose the right path and advocate that path.
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Yeah.
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And not stick your head in the sands behind the church only and say, well, God's got us.
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Yeah.
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I think that we have an obligation to go fight.
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Yeah.
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And.
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I don't mean fighting physically, but I mean, I mean, we are in a cultural war.
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The Islamists would take over our country tomorrow as soon as you open the borders.
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They will do it.
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And they will do it just like they've done it in Europe.
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They will do it.
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They will do it.
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They will do it.
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Yeah.
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And anybody around that says, ah, no big deal, you know, what do we care?
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We just hate Christians.
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Fair enough.
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But like you said, you've got to choose a site.
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I've had this conversation with several younger people.
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Yeah.
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Who are sort of like the Tucker Carlson is.
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Yeah.
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You know, what's wrong with, what's wrong with that?
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Sounds like a good plan.
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It's a good plan.
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Why not?
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You know, it's like, well, there's a lot wrong with it and just because.
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So you can, you can oppose that without saying you're a born again Christian for sure.
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But understand when you leave a vacuum, it's going to get filled.
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Right.
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And the evil people will fill it because they care.
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The other side always cares.
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And if you say you don't, they will.
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Yeah.
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So, okay, I have a pretty wide, you know, agnostic streak in me because I'm a doubting Thomas in some ways.
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You know, I like data, I like proof.
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Like, you know, I, I, I, I often said to my Jesuit, the theological teachers when I was in high school that the twelve apostles had it easy.
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And they go, what the hell are you talking about, Murdoch?
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Well, my goodness, they got to witness all of these miracles, including Jesus rising from the dead.
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Well, who in the hell wouldn't be a devout Christian if you were in the room when Jesus walked in after being crucified and you got to feel and touch the wounds in his hands, his feet, his side.
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Well, hell, yeah, I, I would believe in God.
25:00
I would, I would follow Jesus.
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I, I, I might go to the Coliseum and be eaten by lions because I would be a soldier for Christ like, like nobody's ever seen, because I would have that proof of being there in person.
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And I've always kind of resented the fact that.
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Why did those people who got to witness Christ life.
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You know, we've sainted all them.
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It's a lot harder.
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Okay, sure.
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Nobody's, nobody's hunting me down, right in, in the fields, you know, nobody's coming after me like Henry VIII went after Catholics in Ireland.
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Nobody is coming after me for my faith in a physical, you know, going to chain you up and torture your way.
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But I'm also.
25:51
All of us have to have faith that the stories of the New Testament are true.
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And so I would say to my Christian brothers and sisters that when they say, hey, Jesus has us, or God has us and things will, things will work, everything will be fine, they forget that God the Father didn't
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even.
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He wasn't there for his own son, who he permitted to be destroyed on a cross by a secular government of the Roman Empire at the behest of jealous, fearful Jewish elders of that particular sect that did not like
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Jesus while other Jews followed him and became the first Christians.
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So I would just say to them, if you think you're going to chill out and everything will be fine, go to a church sometime and look around at all those saints who got tortured for their faith.
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God did not step in and stop that, okay?
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Man is allowed to be evil.
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Our.
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Our Father in heaven permits evil.
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I mean, what the hell?
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Hitler, Stalin, IDI Amin.
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I mean, do I really, you know, do I, do I have to go down the list?
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Mao?
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I mean, there's evil, right?
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All socialists, by the way.
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All socialists.
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I mean, do we really need to go down the list?
27:27
And if you think America could just chill, right?
27:31
Like the Dow futures went up 800 points this morning.
27:34
Right.
27:35
And, and Larry Kudlow, who's an economist, he said, well, that's because the, the Wall street understands Trump has the veto pen.
27:47
So they don't think that all this crazy stuff is going to happen in the next two years.
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I don't think it is either.
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I'm worried about the next two years.
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Six months.
27:57
Yes, sir.
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Right.
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Yes, sir.
27:59
Right.
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That's so like, if you just set this one out.
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And I'm a little pissed at the gun lobby, for example, you know, where the hell was the NRA here in this cycle?
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Well, as you've got Talarico in Texas saying he's in favor of a assault weapons ban.
28:16
Yeah, right.
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Where I heard nothing in opposition.
28:19
So everybody, everybody sat on their hands here because they're too afraid to come out and say, we support Trump.
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But you didn't.
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But to your point,.
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You didn't have.
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To.
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Wasn't him.
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That Wasn't.
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And I've been, you've seen me railing here from, for the last two years.
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Well, I just went through.
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Midterms.
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Midterms.
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Midterms.
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Midterms.
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Trump tariffs.
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Midterms.
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I get the agenda.
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Midterms.
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Don't screw up the midterms.
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And he did.
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Yeah,.
28:44
Did.
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Yeah, he did.
28:45
Steve, we were here supporting the idea of.
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Yes, you got to deny Iran the nuclear option because why they said they're going to use it.
28:59
Okay.
29:00
Right.
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They're, they're purifying nuclear materials to a weapons grade not for nuclear power.
29:08
So I, I get what he did.
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Right, okay.
29:13
You know, Operation whatever the hell he wants to call it.
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Okay.
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Why did we not conclude that?
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Why all this ping pong all summer?
29:21
We have a truce, let's talk.
29:23
We, you know, and here we are, election day Americans being very self serving, being very shortsighted, voted on gas prices to reject all of these Republicans because Trump, he said, think of me as being on the ballot.
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Well, they sure as hell did.
29:43
They did, right?
29:44
They did.
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And.
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They rejected.
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Him.
29:46
And Trump sort of dismissed those concerns.
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Yes, he did.
29:52
In real time in a way that turned people off.
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Yes, he did.
29:56
He didn't say what you just said.
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Guys, there's going to be this short term problem, I promise you I'm going to resolve it.
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I mean, he didn't offer an explanation, he just did it.
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And.
30:05
Yes.
30:06
Yeah,.
30:07
There's a backlash.
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And kept saying, oh, we're negotiating with people, they're just about to break.
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And this has been going on for nine months.
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And it's like.
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And what did we say?
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Look, you need four weeks.
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Yeah.
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Be divisive about this.
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Yeah.
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Get in there, get it done,.
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Get it done.
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And get the hell out of there.
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The hell out.
30:25
Before the midterms.
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Right.
30:27
Or just wait until tomorrow until November 4th because then we wouldn't then, you know, get, you know, there's a war and Trump is fighting battles without focus on the end game.
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That's right.
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Because when you lose power, you lose your efficacy to fight the war.
30:47
You've got nothing.
30:47
Right.
30:48
He's now, now the war is lost.
30:49
They're going to defund him under the War Powers Act.
30:52
Yeah, he's done.
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We're getting out of Iran.
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And whether it's Trump that execute, you know, like ramps this up again and gets it done here,.
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He's going to have to.
31:02
If that's what he wants to do.
31:03
Yeah, if.
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That's what he.
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Wants.
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He's got a couple of months to get it done and that's it.
31:06
So.
31:06
They're going to pass a war Powers Act.
31:08
They're going to force him out of.
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Just like they forced Gerald Ford out of Vietnam.
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They're going to defund the war.
31:17
Yeah, it's done.
31:18
That's done.
31:19
And then he's going to be fighting impeachment battles for the next two years.
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Yeah.
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And you know.
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Yep.
31:24
Economically, if there's a bright side, probably okay.
31:28
Because I've always said when Congress is deadlocked with the President and vice versa, the government can't do what it wants to do, which is spend your money.
31:38
And that's usually a good thing.
31:40
That's usually a good thing.
31:41
But the ideological war persists, the cultural war persists and we just lost a huge battle.
31:48
We're putting people with agendas that are directly contrary to the United States founding.
31:55
Right.
31:55
In power.
31:57
And I don't mean just Islamists, I'm talking socialists.
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Like this is not the American dream, folks.
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The American dream is not to sit back on your fat ass and collect government checks.
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That's not the American dream.
32:08
It never was the American dream.
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And.
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It.
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Was not sustainable.
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Those who founded this country came over here and worked their asses off to get their little piece of whatever they had.
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Right.
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And think of the, the solders out in, out west as they settled the west, building their houses into, into hillsides out of sod.
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Right.
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They could stay warm.
32:25
Yeah.
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Like they weren't looking for handouts.
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They were looking for their little piece of the world to be re.
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Yeah.
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Free.
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Not comfortable, but free.
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There's.
32:37
Freedom.
32:38
Freedom is a two sided thing,.
32:40
Right.
32:41
You, you can, you can fail and, and, and not be self reliant and you know, give in to the sin of sloth and laziness and gluttony and just, you know, lay on the couch.
32:57
I mean the thing is, why should people who are working their asses off have to support somebody who wants to succumb to that kind of deadly sin?
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It was never conceived.
33:14
This country was never conceived under the general welfare clause of the Constitution that, that you would actually support people who don't care enough about their, their own welfare, who are able bodied, who are.
33:31
To be clear, you're not talking about those who have legitimate needs.
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No, not at all.
33:36
Right.
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Children, mentally damaged.
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Whatever, whatever problem you have.
33:44
Yeah,.
33:44
Whatever problem you have.
33:45
Where do you draw that line?
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I don't know.
33:46
But I know where it isn't.
33:48
It's not for, it's not for you.
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You 19 year old college kid with Your iPhone.
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No.
33:53
Railing against.
33:54
Right.
33:55
Capitalism.
33:56
Right.
33:57
Standing on the shoulders of guys who died at Iwo Jima to preserve it or in the trenches in the battle of the bulge to preserve it.
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It's not.
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The welfare is not for you.
34:09
Well, no.
34:10
And, and you're getting your degree in Star wars studies of Captain Picard and William.
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Rest.
34:18
In peace, by the way.
34:18
Yeah,.
34:19
Rest in peace.
34:20
You know, like the.
34:22
Some of these majors that are available to people.
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I mean, listen, I know people who have philosophy and English degrees and history degrees.
34:34
Yep.
34:34
And.
34:35
And at the end of the four years.
34:38
Okay.
34:38
English here, History there, Journalism minor here.
34:42
At the end of four years, you get slapped in the face pretty hard and you realize, oh, well, I guess I'm.
34:50
I guess I'm going to have to go downtown to Lazarus and, and ask if I can run the men's tie department or something.
34:59
Or I'm going to.
35:00
I'm to going.
35:00
Going to have to be a short order cook at Bob Evans because you did not get a practical career making degree.
35:09
And that's something Steve and I and everybody else who ever graduated with a liberal arts degree has had to face.
35:17
But it was different.
35:18
It was.
35:18
See, but here's the difference.
35:20
And here's what, here's what.
35:21
If I'm going to throw a bone to this generation, it would be this.
35:27
When I did it, graduating college from the College of Worcester.
35:31
Yeah.
35:31
Liberal arts school here in Ohio.
35:33
Right.
35:33
In 1992.
35:35
I studied all sorts of liberal arts.
35:37
I studied some science, I studied some.
35:39
I didn't.
35:40
I was supposed to study math, but you get the point.
35:43
I.
35:43
Get the point.
35:44
I learned some history, I learned some philosophy.
35:46
Foreign language requirements,.
35:47
French, which I again tried to study but didn't sign up with Latin.
35:52
Somewhat useful.
35:53
I was exposed to all sorts of things.
35:54
Right.
35:55
And I graduated with a history degree with no job offer.
35:59
But you know what I didn't have is a mountain of student debt that only came in the next four years when Bill Clinton said everybody ought to have an education.
36:09
And now we have federally subsidized student loans.
36:12
And guess what happened?
36:14
The schools started charging full freight,.
36:16
Crazy money.
36:17
And more because guys like me would come in, get my history degree and it would.
36:22
Instead of paying 10,000 a year, which is what I paid.
36:25
Right.
36:26
And actually less because I got tuition, remission and other stuff.
36:29
Sure.
36:29
You know, I worked.
36:30
I did work study, I worked at home.
36:31
So you make a couple grand during summer, so net like eight.
36:35
Very affordable.
36:36
Right.
36:38
They're paying 50.
36:39
Yeah.
36:40
Or 60 or even 100.
36:41
At certain things and you come out.
36:43
And not only that, they're paying full freight because the government is saying I'm going to guarantee that you school get that money back.
36:50
That is socialism.
36:51
That's a social program.
36:53
It is.
36:53
An abject failure.
36:54
So all you people that are voting for more of it understand where it came from,.
36:58
Right?
36:58
Yeah.
37:00
So we're 40 trillion in debt as a country and the confiscatory rates that it's going to take for the very generation that wants, you know, the gen zers that want all this free stuff, Gen Z, I'm speaking, you're
37:16
going to have to pay for your free stuff.
37:18
So therefore it's not free.
37:20
Right?
37:21
It's not free.
37:22
It will collapse.
37:24
We will be like France, who is even in greater debt than we are.
37:29
And the French government has figured out, oh well, we can't pay these retirements.
37:36
We can't pay for enough police to prevent the riots.
37:40
We can't.
37:41
So they activate the army, they bring in the French army to put down the riots because they don't have cops and, and they have whole neighborhoods practicing Sharia law that the police will not even go into those neighborhoods
37:54
to enforce civil law.
37:56
Yeah, look, do.
37:57
You have beheadings going on?
37:59
You have crazy taking place in some of the suburbs of Paris.
38:04
It is insanity and it's, and look, you open up the, you open up the borders, you open up the country and that's what's happening here.
38:10
And don't think it won't because that' again it.
38:13
All you have to do is listen to what they're telling you.
38:15
You can lose this in one generation.
38:17
You could easily, right?
38:18
Easily.
38:19
That's right.
38:20
And it as you said, and it's always the kids I think because I'll tell you a story.
38:25
My dad, I, I'm a terrible golfer.
38:27
But when I was 12, 13, I remember golfing one time my dad let my buddy and I go golf.
38:32
Right?
38:33
And how'd you do?
38:34
I lost six balls.
38:35
My dad's like, six balls?
38:37
Yes, I don't care.
38:38
And he always said to me, because you don't pay for them.
38:41
And he was right.
38:42
He is right.
38:43
I didn't understand that at the time.
38:44
I mean, as soon as he said it, I was like, I better shut up,.
38:47
I better go shag those walls.
38:49
So what I did, we start walking the hedgerows of Raymond Memorial golf course and trying to pick up golf balls.
38:55
So.
38:56
If I played golf the next time, I spent half the time searching for lost balls and the other half playing Golf.
39:01
But that was the point.
39:02
Like, he made a good point and it hit.
39:04
Right.
39:04
So you're not paying for your freaking iPhone, folks.
39:07
You're not paying for your college.
39:08
We are.
39:09
Yeah.
39:10
And do you think if student loans are so horrific that they should be forgiven, why are we still doing it?
39:18
Yeah, you.
39:19
Why is the government still in the student loan if they're so bad, why is the government still in the student loan business?
39:22
Yeah.
39:23
Because as soon as you shut it off, the college rates drop.
39:25
Yeah.
39:26
Immediately.
39:27
Right.
39:27
And, you know, paying off people's loans, you know, when they signed for it as an adult.
39:35
Yes.
39:35
They were young adults, but, you know, some people sign enlistment papers to go into the army where they're exposed to life and death risk is.
39:46
So I would say to the college kids, hey, you went in at the same age as other people going into the military.
39:53
You could get married, you could go the military, you can vote.
39:57
You have all of these, you know, rights to, for, for.
40:01
To how you want your life to work out.
40:03
You went of your own free will and asked for a loan backed by the US government.
40:10
And then when you're 400 grand in debt with your pottery degree or, or whatever.
40:16
Silly degree, gender studies or.
40:18
Whatever your college based on.
40:21
Yeah,.
40:21
The.
40:21
In the climate where you want to go or where your girlfriend's going or where your boyfriend.
40:25
Yeah, but I really want to go to blank school.
40:28
They have a nice lounge and.
40:30
It's.
40:30
Got a pool and a sauna.
40:32
Look at, look at the student center.
40:33
Look how nice it is.
40:34
And,.
40:34
And their meal plan, you know, and you're like, well, I was eating green beans out of the can and ramen noodles during law school because even though I worked at my dad's law firm, he was paying me like
40:49
10 bucks an hour.
40:50
I heated up my green beans.
40:51
I'll tell you, I did eat a lot of ramen noodles and a lot of pasta.
40:55
Well, you know, beans have a lot of protein.
40:58
Beans and rice.
40:58
Roughage.
40:59
Yeah.
41:00
But, you know, there are, there are reasons to be of good cheer.
41:08
I do think that the Democrats will inevitably overplay their hand.
41:13
They always do.
41:14
They, they, they're, you know, the, the, the incoming head of the Oversight Committee on Government, the Democrat future chairman, you know, who would be akin to Jim Jordan, you know, that kind of investigatory or Oversight committee.
41:32
He's already said.
41:33
He.
41:34
Last night, he said, lawyer up.
41:36
Lawyer up.
41:36
Because they're coming after Elon Musk.
41:38
They're, they're going to dig into Doge.
41:40
They're going to they're going to dig into the Trump kids because, you know, they have, they've started all this, you know, crypto,.
41:50
Trump money and all and.
41:51
All this stuff.
41:52
So, you know, here we go.
41:53
They're going to overplay that.
41:55
And I think if we've learned anything from yesterday, people are very emo about how they're voting.
42:04
I mean, they are clearly not being logical.
42:07
No.
42:07
And I think when they overplay their hand and it becomes, it starts to look like, you know, some tin horn dictatorship country where people all have their knives out, the voters will swing the other way.
42:24
They'll elect a Rubio or, or, or a Vance because they're going to want sanity back.
42:31
Maybe.
42:32
I think that's what, I think that is part of why I don't feel so bad.
42:38
It is because this is going to set up 2028, I believe.
42:42
This is what I said to my buddy.
42:44
We used to call him the Exchequer around here, my fact checker buddy.
42:46
And I used to say this and it was during COVID and it was when all this crap was going on.
42:52
I just said, you know what, though?
42:54
They're exposing their ideology to the world and with all its flaws and they don't even know it.
43:01
They don't realize how ugly it is to people.
43:04
I hope you're right.
43:04
The problem is though, last time they did not do what you're talking about.
43:09
It was discussed, packed the court, filibuster gone.
43:13
D.C.
43:14
and Puerto Rico states.
43:15
They didn't do that last time.
43:18
And are they going to do it this time?
43:19
Yeah, well,.
43:21
Because that's a fait accompli, I think.
43:23
Well, we have several DSA candidates that are now office holders or will be in January.
43:29
So in the House and in the Senate.
43:32
Uh, so Talarico, for example, has said the filibuster is absolutely should be eliminated.
43:38
And I'm sure, El Saeed, these people all feel that way that are coming.
43:43
Yeah.
43:43
And for those who say that's a good thing because then they can get stuff done.
43:47
Understand what that means.
43:50
Yeah.
43:51
What that stuff is.
43:52
Understand what that means.
43:54
It, it is a power grab.
43:56
Yeah.
43:56
It is power.
43:57
Yeah.
43:58
And if you think that the power will be wielded reasonably by your people, but nobody else.
44:04
Right.
44:04
It's time to look in the mirror.
44:06
So some interesting statistics.
44:10
In Ohio, issue three passed.
44:14
So on the federal level, we saw the failure to pass the Save America Act.
44:21
We did pass that here though,.
44:22
Which was voter id, which was.
44:24
Right.
44:25
And you know, verifying that people are, that are voting, are actually citizens and Therefore entitled to have a vote.
44:34
Ohio voters and in around the country, similar ballot issues in Arkansas, Alaska, West Virginia, Arizona and a few other states.
44:47
They all pass very similar, analogous,.
44:52
Frankly, which is what I want.
44:54
I mean, I don't want, I don't say I don't want the federal.
44:56
I would prefer all of that come from the states.
44:59
Well,.
44:59
Constitutionally.
45:00
At least as far as state elections go.
45:02
Yeah, certainly.
45:03
And I think how the states run their federal elections, all that should be,.
45:06
I agree,.
45:07
Should be state law stuff.
45:08
I agree.
45:09
That's just my constitutional ideology.
45:11
The, the other thing that gives me a glimmer of hope here is in several states, including solidly blue states like Colorado, several states passed referendums against biological males playing sports in female leagues.
45:33
So in Colorado, for example, that referendum passed even though.
45:38
Right.
45:39
They elected, you know, a Democrat governor, Democrat senators, Democrat congressman.
45:47
That gives me hope because what that says is on voting ID and on trans men playing in female sports, that the voters who were angry over, quote, affordability and gas prices, they could, they still hung on to their
46:10
common sense values when it came to things that they could understand and digest.
46:17
Well,.
46:17
Maybe they're not sophisticated enough to understand that gas prices are temporary and that this isn't a new normal, that it is because of the war.
46:26
Well, you know, but.
46:28
They certainly got the, the thing on voting and they got the thing on trans men playing in female sports.
46:34
So.
46:35
People have a tendency, me included, to say, all right, I just.
46:43
These people are saying all this stuff, but they're not going to really do all those things.
46:47
I'm just sick of what we got.
46:48
So let's just do something different and it'll work out.
46:50
It'll swing back this way and it'll swing back that way.
46:53
But for the first time in maybe for a long, long time, we are talking about a power grab.
46:59
Not just controlling the reins of the power structures that already exist, but creating more power structures to keep the reins forever.
47:07
Yeah,.
47:08
That's the difference.
47:08
That is the difference.
47:11
Another little glimmer in bright blue California voters shot down this billionaire forfeiture tax.
47:22
Oh, I did see that.
47:23
Yeah.
47:23
And you know, of any state that you could think of that might have passed some kind of crazy tax like that, the voters must have calculated that if we pass this thing, even more of these CEOs are going
47:42
to relocate their companies there or, or wealthy individuals that just, you know, sure, they love the natural resources of California, but they don't have to stay there.
47:54
Their money is portable, they can get up and go.
47:57
And many Have.
47:57
I mean, Texas is kind of California light right now.
48:03
And I think that's the demographic shifts of voters from places like New York down south to places like Florida made that governor's race down there very tight.
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Yeah, they go down and ruin what the next thing they touch,.
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Like locusts.
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Let's go to this big, green, leafy state.
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Let's chew up all those fields and, and reduce Texas and Florida to what California is like now.
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And then they'll go find Ohio or go find somewhere else or Tennessee.
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But, yeah, it's.
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It's a problem, and that's just what it is.
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The other dismissive thing about Trump that really lit my fuse and, and it's the same thing that DeWine Husted Ramaswamy did is this whole data center and AI phenomenon that really got ramped up and shoved in people's faces
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in the last couple of years.
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The amount of social media whiplash against.
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I mean, went from being, hey, can you just cite these things away from homes to now there were referendums, like in Granville, Ohio, to just outright ban.
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And this is happening all around Ohio, where townships and villages are passing these bans, absolute bans against data centers.
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And so it's becoming like a talisman.
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You know, are you pro or anti data center?
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Which is like being pro or anti electricity or.
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Or any other industry.
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And it's like the idea of Trump telling rural voters in the 24 election, he had 69% of rural voters.
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Pretty good, right?
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Almost 70%.
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Trump telling those people, you're a sucker if you're against data centers.
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He's just making a blanket statement.
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Data centers are your opportunity to cash in.
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You should embrace data centers.
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You're going to make so much.
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Meanwhile, they're humming in people's backyards and they don't like them.
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Exactly.
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Don't piss down my neck and tell me.
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Training the old outlaw, Josie Wales.
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Right.
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Exactly, Steve.
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Instead of saying, guys, we're.
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I hear you.
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We need these things.
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We're going to be more careful about where we put them.
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Thank you.
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Yes.
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And maybe we can go underground, maybe.
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I'm listening.
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I hear you.
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Yes.
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Where was the reassurance to calm these suburban and rural, mainly female voters that no, in 24, they voted for Trump, more African Americans voted for Trump.
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Latinos down in Texas, they voted for Trump.
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And then for Ken Paxton, they bandoned him.
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They did the Latino vote for Paxton.
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What was.
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Right back to what a typical Republican would get in Texas.
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Very small, like 25%.
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Something like that.
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Yeah.
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And you know, Trump had 50% of the Latino vote.
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So.
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So you ignore these people at your peril.
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You can't.
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This is the thing that I just, I'm so angry about is this lack of transparency in our state government and writ large nationally.
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And I think this was like a red, A MAGA scream back at the, the GOP power structure was like, okay, listen, we'll, we'll march to hell with Donald Trump, but we're going to sit on our hands and we
51:42
are not going to vote for a straight ticket.
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We, you know, if Trump was on the ballot, he probably would have done pretty well.
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But you.
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If it's a pretend Trump on the ballot, the voters rejected that.
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Yeah.
51:57
No.
51:57
So, you know, the, the future holds the answers to the following questions.
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Yeah.
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Who's going to carry the torch for the Republican Party?
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I don't think it's going to be.
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I think the MAGA movement as such is not going to be.
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Is dead.
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So whatever.
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Whoever is going to pick up that torch.
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Well,.
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He's a lame duck.
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Needs to come up with their own vision.
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That's right.
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And I would suggest a practical vision.
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That's.
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Right.
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That is not.
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That has a direction.
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That has a direction that can be explained, that is sympathetic to the American people, which is why you're there and Trump act.
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I think there was a place and a time for Trump and I think he was on that hill when he was needed the most, did his job.
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But you know, sort of like he's done, it's over.
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Yeah, we, he should have understood.
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And clearly, I think in one or two broadcasts you even said he didn't care.
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And I know there's a lot like you can break that down, why he didn't care.
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And I think a lot of it was probably he thought the force of his personality would overcome.
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His arrogance.
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That's right.
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His.
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Arrogance.
53:16
That's right.
53:17
His hubris that, that he could overcome people's very real and very practical fears and emotions.
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And I think he didn't understand how short term Americans memories are and their, and their perceptions of, of, of what's important is.
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And when you.
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So I looked at the returns for probably the most Republican county in Ohio, Licking county.
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Trump in 24 had like 70%.
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And even though the Licking county commissioners and The Licking County GOP won last night, they won with 10%, 10 points less than what similar office holders got when Trump was on the ballot.
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I got you.
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And so what that tells me is you take 10% off the table and you go down these races and you look at Susan Collins or you look at EL Sayed against Rogers up in Michigan, or you look at
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Houston against Sherrod Brown,.
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That's about the margin.
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You feed back that 10% that this would have been a red wave.
54:33
So I keep, I keep saying this sounds very petty, but I keep going back to gas prices.
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And you and I discussed this and we knew this, we know Ohio, we knew this, that if gas prices are high on election day, we're in trouble.
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We're in trouble as conservatives.
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And we were.
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And they were.
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And we were.
54:57
And we were.
54:58
So going forward, pick somebody who's got a cohesive planned agenda.
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Yeah,.
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I hate to use that word,.
55:08
But.
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A plan for how the government should operate.
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Because laughably, Steve, this revulsion, this red scream result that happened, it's not logical.
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And you know, because,.
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Well, nothing Trump did was logical.
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No.
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What,.
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From their perspective,.
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What I mean, the revulsion by the, by the MAGA people, the gun owners, the, the blue collar guys, the lunch pail guys, the UAW guys, the people who sat on their hands and said, you know, I'm pissed about
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diesel, pissed about gas.
55:46
The, the illogical thing about that, the affordability election as it's being bannered.
55:52
Yeah.
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Is.
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Is that the people that, by sitting on their hands and allowing Gen Z and the women and, and the, the various, the, you know, the Somali vote, the Haitian by, by allowing that vote to run over the top
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or even themselves voting crossing party and voting for Democrats to send a message.
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What they did, of course, course is they, they elected a party that is not interested in lowering gas prices.
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No.
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And they're going to go up.
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They're going to go up.
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They love it right now because this is the baseline.
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Yes, exactly.
56:30
Right.
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So they have no intent of bringing it down.
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So what did they do when they had power?
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Right.
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They, they, they shut down construction of the pipeline.
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They ended.
56:41
They, they, they made illegal drilling in Alaska.
56:45
They made it harder to explore.
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They ended leases on public land, they ended offshore drilling.
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They force fed EVs onto the car manufacturers who have had to can do a complete turnaround because people weren't ready for expensive EVs.
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They wanted inexpensive diesel Ford pickups and, and GMC gas pickups and whatever.
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So the people that this vote yesterday empowered are not the people who are going to address the affordability.
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Not at all.
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Not that way.
57:22
So look again plan going forward.
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Find somebody who's normal, at least reasonably normal.
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Yeah.
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Have an agenda.
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End the freaking war in Iran favorably.
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Yeah.
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Focus on.
57:37
And some people would say we've won that war.
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Yeah.
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Because the capability of making a nuclear weapon right now is zero.
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Is zero.
57:45
Right.
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So end it one way or another and save face.
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That will automatically adjust the fuel prices that you're talking about.
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Yeah.
57:54
And address people's concerns with two other topics that I will call.
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I'm not going to call them ancillary because that downplays them.
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The importance data centers.
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Epstein.
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I think Trump.
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We haven't talked about that, but he totally flubbed the Epstein thing.
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Just let it happen.
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Like it went by.
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And I understand why he did it.
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I think.
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I think he was trying to protect others.
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That would have been names in those files.
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And even maybe victims.
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Did nothing.
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They did nothing either.
58:17
But it fell on Trump.
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And Mr.
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Transparency didn't do it.
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He didn't just say, here it is.
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Take it for what it is.
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Well, they did.
58:25
They did put out the files, but they're just raw investigatory files.
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And.
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It took a long.
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I mean, it was a fight.
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It was a fight to do it.
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Like, it was this and that and the other.
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It's just little things like that.
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Things that people.
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Well, you're, you're a criminal defense lawyer.
58:41
And how unfair is it to our legal system really, to, To Justice Steve, to put out raw investigative files?
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Look, I'm not saying that's.
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Terrible.
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I'm not saying I agree that they should have even started to do that.
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Because I could say something,.
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But they.
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Didn't.
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Awful about a person.
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But how he handled the messaging.
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How he handled the messaging.
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Fair.
59:05
Came back at him and it hurt him.
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I think a, a, a deep.
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So, so if you had Dershowitz or you.
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You had Jonathan.
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I always forget his name.
59:17
But if you had one of these law professors carefully explain that it is important to preserve the unbiased atmosphere for an eventual jury that you just can't put out.
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Investigatory.
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Said that he was going to do it and then he didn't.
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And then it came out.
59:36
And then he did.
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And then it came out trickled.
59:38
And then he fired the agent.
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I got it.
59:40
But.
59:41
He fired Bondi over it.
59:42
Things started to fall apart with the tariffs and with the Epstein thing.
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And then later on, like, I think locally here anyway, the data centers and that kind of.
59:52
And you know, Trump looked at those things as like flies.
59:56
Yeah.
59:56
But they weren't.
59:57
Yeah.
59:58
Yeah.
59:58
Even.
59:59
And, and one.
1:00:00
Some.
1:00:01
So I have quotes from the talking heads, but like Carl Rove, who was famously George Bush II's brain.
1:00:09
Right.
1:00:10
Karl Rove said that in his Opinion, the big thing that really turned people against Trump was the ICE enforcement, the mass deportations, the chasing down of people in vehicles.
1:00:25
And so the visuals of the state apparatus against poor brown people, if you will, upset a lot of people.
1:00:38
And he said, well, we all know of, you know, of course, he's the Texan.
1:00:43
We all know of good people standing outside of Home Depot, you know, with a pair of work gloves, waiting to get picked up and.
1:00:52
And to go to work for the day for cash money.
1:00:55
And I'm like, you know, if Americans are that averse, I mean, Steve, what arrest again?
1:01:04
You're a criminal defense attorney.
1:01:06
Have you ever seen a contested arrest where somebody's resisting?
1:01:12
And it.
1:01:12
Does any video that ever really look good for the police, it just doesn't look good because they're throwing the guy to the ground, they're wrapping his arms around his back.
1:01:22
It does, though, and here's why it's not.
1:01:25
It looks the same, but the messaging is different.
1:01:30
So go look at videos of a Karen who is behind the wheel of her car and she's pulled over and she refuses to get out.
1:01:39
Oh, yeah.
1:01:39
And then eventually the police break the window and she's screaming and she gets slammed to the ground.
1:01:44
And now there's this.
1:01:45
Her arms are contorted.
1:01:46
That looks the same.
1:01:47
But it wasn't about brown people in ice, you know, so the messaging that.
1:01:52
And Trump didn't spin that message well either, particularly not in Minnesota.
1:01:55
The better.
1:01:55
Like there was a better way to do it, but it became this is not.
1:02:00
Not.
1:02:01
I mean, so as Andrew Clavin, I think, said this, and he's not the first person to say it, but the worst traits of people are often their best traits, too.
1:02:08
Do and vice versa.
1:02:10
So Trump's trade is, I'm not getting bullied around, I'm not getting pushed around.
1:02:14
I'm not going to get shouted down as this or shouted down as that or whatever.
1:02:17
And then he'll turn around when he's got this problem in Minnesota, he becomes a little bit callous to it and says, screw it, I'm sending more and I'm going to do more of it,.
1:02:25
And.
1:02:25
I'm going to stick it up your ass even harder.
1:02:27
And it was an opportunity there to be a little diplomatic and say, all right, look, Minnesota, I want to work with you, but you got to work with me.
1:02:36
Don't just send the army in.
1:02:37
Say, I want to work with you, but you got to work with me.
1:02:40
You can't keep me out of the places where these Dangerous criminals are.
1:02:43
Yeah.
1:02:43
And if you agree to do that, I'll stay off the street.
1:02:45
I mean, there was a chance there that something could happen.
1:02:47
But he doubles down on it.
1:02:48
Well, he finally got to what you're saying when he sent Tom Homan in,.
1:02:52
But it was too late.
1:02:53
It was after all these.
1:02:56
Violence and the riots.
1:02:57
But.
1:02:57
Now you don't have that in Minnesota because Homan went in and said, okay, we're not going to do the high visibility arrest.
1:03:04
Right.
1:03:04
We're going to go to their home.
1:03:06
Never had to happen in the first place.
1:03:07
It.
1:03:07
Never had to happen in the.
1:03:08
And it could have been a phone call to the leader.
1:03:10
I think a phone call to say, look, guys, you're not letting me in the jails, you're not letting me here, you're not letting our guys in there.
1:03:17
What can we do to work this out?
1:03:18
And instead, I think he, Trump.
1:03:21
Trump's the kind of guy that wants to make that show.
1:03:23
He.
1:03:23
Wanted the conference.
1:03:24
He's like, you know what?
1:03:25
This.
1:03:25
So then that.
1:03:26
Right.
1:03:26
And there's.
1:03:28
And that hurt him.
1:03:29
Yeah, I think you're right.
1:03:30
That hurt him.
1:03:31
I think you're right.
1:03:32
I think Karl Rove has a point.
1:03:33
I don't think that's what turned.
1:03:35
I don't think it is at all.
1:03:36
The people that are going to vote for Trump that got most of the people that weren't voting for him already.
1:03:41
So some of the lessons also are, as we discussed this early voting, Ohio's early vote was even bigger than what we talked about last week.
1:03:51
It was almost 2 million early votes.
1:03:55
It was 17, like 1.75 million early votes in Ohio.
1:04:03
And 2/3 of those were Democrat.
1:04:07
They ended up voting for Amy Acton.
1:04:11
They ended up voting for Sherrod Brown.
1:04:13
The early vote, that 1.75 was 2/3, 2/3 Democrat.
1:04:20
And so what do I say about that?
1:04:23
There's this guy on a podcast named John Ashbrook.
1:04:27
I don't know if he's related probably as to the former Congressman Ashbrook, but it's a conservative podcast.
1:04:35
They're on Fox News now.
1:04:37
And he said the Repub.
1:04:39
And you know, I said this last week and I think you agreed.
1:04:43
The Republicans always seem to want to spend their money.
1:04:46
Like Elon Musk gave what, a quarter of a billion dollars?
1:04:52
Vivek and his allies spent a hundred million on his losing governor gubernatorial effort.
1:04:59
But the Republicans started spending money after Labor Day.
1:05:04
Yeah, it's too late.
1:05:04
It's too late.
1:05:05
The narrative had already been set.
1:05:08
It was done.
1:05:09
It was done.
1:05:09
It.
1:05:10
Was done.
1:05:10
And yeah, lessons learned.
1:05:12
Lessons learned.
1:05:13
You know, if you think you're going to at the last minute, like Trump yesterday, he cut off funding for Israel yesterday.
1:05:22
Yeah.
1:05:23
On election day.
1:05:24
And it's like, if you think that, that if like.
1:05:28
You'd already lost.
1:05:29
Is he thinking people were standing in line, Right.
1:05:32
And they're going, you know, I don't like what Netanyahu did in Gaza, killing 20,000 Gazans.
1:05:40
And so I'm going to cut Israel off on election day.
1:05:43
As I just said, one third of the Ohio vote, maybe even more than that, maybe almost.
1:05:51
We'll have to see what the total vote is.
1:05:53
But 1.75 million Ohioans had already voted.
1:05:59
So who are you appealing?
1:06:00
It's, it's water.
1:06:02
Don't change your mind on the last day.
1:06:04
It doesn't happen.
1:06:05
If it does happen, it's not going to happen on a way in a, on a scale that's going to out change the outcome.
1:06:09
So.
1:06:09
Well, look, let's wrap it up good and bad again.
1:06:11
We've already talked about all the good and bad there is.
1:06:13
Well, so in my little corner of the world there was this fellow, his particular road in Licking county because a data center construction has been torn up for a couple of years and you know,.
1:06:33
This is our friend.
1:06:34
Oh no, no, no.
1:06:35
Different.
1:06:36
Lives on the same road.
1:06:37
Yeah, same, same problem.
1:06:39
But there's this fellow that encouraged people to write him in.
1:06:44
Okay.
1:06:45
So he didn't want to participate as a Republican for whatever reason and he said I'm going to be an independent.
1:06:52
I didn't, you know, I'm not on the ballot as a member of either party.
1:06:57
Write me in.
1:06:57
And he had signs all over the damn place.
1:06:59
Write me in.
1:07:01
Here's the, here's the problem about not being involved in one of the two parties.
1:07:09
He.
1:07:10
Out of 42,000 votes that went to the Republican county commissioner.
1:07:17
Okay.
1:07:17
Who did win.
1:07:19
The endorsed regular Republican who won office got 42,000.
1:07:26
The write in candidate who, if you just were on Facebook you would think this guy is a shoo in because it's a bubble.
1:07:34
You've got all these people talking to each other and saying all the same stuff because he's upset about the roads.
1:07:41
He got a thousand votes.
1:07:44
So it just literally.
1:07:46
And eye contact.
1:07:47
Dude, this is a complete waste of your genius and your time.
1:07:52
Yeah,.
1:07:52
You need.
1:07:54
Use that, use that energy elsewhere.
1:07:56
You need to get into the primary.
1:07:58
You need to be the endorsed candidate.
1:08:01
And this is where it's a ground game.
1:08:04
This is.
1:08:05
So I'm encouraged that people seem to be wanting some kind of solution from outside the box.
1:08:12
But what they don't realize because of their lack of understanding that politics is a business.
1:08:19
They need to dive into the process.
1:08:25
They need to take it over.
1:08:27
Just like the DSA has taken over the Democrat Party.
1:08:31
Common Sense Republicans need to take over the elitist.
1:08:37
Yeah.
1:08:38
Instead.
1:08:38
Yeah.
1:08:38
Instead of playing the sidelines, that's playing the game.
1:08:40
So, look, with that, we got to wrap it up.
1:08:42
Okay.
1:08:43
Common Sense Ohio election results.
1:08:46
It'll be okay, people.
1:08:47
We're going to survive.
1:08:48
We always do.
1:08:49
We're going to be.
1:08:50
We will live to fight.
1:08:51
Enough.
1:08:51
Yes, sir.