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SEASON 2 DA CREW PODCAST_ EPISODE _146_ HOST BLAQUE DIAMOND · DA CREW Podcast

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  Speaker 3: made up a significant and painful part of our criminal
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  Speaker 3: justice system, and given the history of lynchings and unfair
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  Speaker 3: treatment of black people over the last three centuries, we
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  Speaker 3: have a special need and a special connection to injustice
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to race in the United States. I
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  Speaker 3: particularly kind of moved and pained, even now.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred years after the.
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  Speaker 3: Fact, by the case of a man named Claude Neil,
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  Speaker 3: who was the last what they call the spectacle lynching
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  Speaker 3: in Florida. And when people talk about respective lynchings, it
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  Speaker 3: is the killing of a black person who is usually
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  Speaker 3: wrongfully accused or not even given the chance to have
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  Speaker 3: due process the law by a mob of white people,
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  Speaker 3: and in that killing.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, and thank you for tuning in to
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  Speaker 2: And you are listening to and tuned into my show.
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  Speaker 2: I am the host of the show. I am Black Diamond.
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  Speaker 2: This is the show that meets people with they are
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  Speaker 2: and giving them what they ask for. But tonight I
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  Speaker 2: am going to be a little selfish. I am giving
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  Speaker 2: myself what I've asked for for twenty seven years. I
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  Speaker 2: have the opportunity to sit here and talk to one
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  Speaker 2: of my big brothers who have been away from me
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  Speaker 2: much too long. Yes, he has been incarcerated, and he's
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  Speaker 2: been incarcerated for twenty seven years, but he served the
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  Speaker 2: time that they gave him and now he is home
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  Speaker 2: with me. So I just ask you, guys up front,
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  Speaker 2: thank you so much. Jeanette. I'm so happy for you
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  Speaker 2: and your family. Thank you. I am just so overs.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that this is as much as I've
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  Speaker 2: smiled since I've been on the air, and you might
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  Speaker 2: see some tears tonight, but forgive me. I'm gonna tell
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  Speaker 2: you if you don't understand some of the words, it's
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  Speaker 2: because I just don't know what else to say. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna introduce my brother. People say we look alike, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: we're twins and boy or boy. If you guys have
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  Speaker 2: known us years ago, we used to get into trouble.
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  Speaker 2: This is the guy that I told everybody about and
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  Speaker 2: I speak to him. We spoke for every every day
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  Speaker 2: for the past twenty seven years, and it just doesn't
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  Speaker 2: seem like a drill. He came through the door and
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  Speaker 2: I just looked at him, and at that moment, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't have tears because I said to myself, we speak
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  Speaker 2: every day. It's like he was coming from the state
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  Speaker 2: that we were born and raised in New York and
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  Speaker 2: here we are here and he's in the state, in
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  Speaker 2: the DMV area, and he's just coming for a visit.
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  Speaker 2: But then at first hid it's all kids. I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to hold it in, but I couldn't. I couldn't. And
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  Speaker 2: you you have to have a brother like this to understand,
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  Speaker 2: and brothers like I have in order to understand the
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  Speaker 2: relationship and what he means to me. I know for
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  Speaker 2: his children it means so much. But we do have
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  Speaker 2: a call in number that you can call in and
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  Speaker 2: speak to him and for those who know him and
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  Speaker 2: for those who just want to say congratulations and the
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  Speaker 2: happy force which I've been getting so far from my
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  Speaker 2: podcast sisters, and I thank you Gods so much. Here
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  Speaker 2: here is my brother Kim. They know him. Also, Hey
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  Speaker 2: what about me, that's my brother Troy. You know twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven years. But we've been doing life together and I
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  Speaker 2: love all of you, and I first and foremost want
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  Speaker 2: to apologize to one of my brothers because I was
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  Speaker 2: a little mean to him when he came to visit
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  Speaker 2: me one day and I said something that I should
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  Speaker 2: not have said. And I do want to tell him
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  Speaker 2: and my brother that I do love you. I do.
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  Speaker 2: It's just that I was going through something and we
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  Speaker 2: all have those days that we go through something. When
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to see him again in person and apologize
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  Speaker 2: for the way that I behaved. He was in my
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  Speaker 2: home and I didn't show gracious to that and that's
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  Speaker 2: not what I should have done, and I apologize. That's
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  Speaker 2: not the way that you should behave when you have
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  Speaker 2: guests in your home, and that's not the way I
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  Speaker 2: should behave to him. They are all my older brothers
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  Speaker 2: and I should have known better. So I do have
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  Speaker 2: an apology coming to him, and you too, Troy. I
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  Speaker 2: apologize because you were there and you were one of
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  Speaker 2: the ones that I was talking to as well. So
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  Speaker 2: I do apologize, and I hope that you guys can
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  Speaker 2: accept that. And this right here is one of the
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  Speaker 2: jokesters in the family who to know him. You really
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  Speaker 2: have to love him, you really do. You spent so
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  Speaker 2: many years away and I don't even know where to
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  Speaker 2: begin to say how much I missed you and that
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  Speaker 2: you were just the rock for me. He was dead
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  Speaker 2: when I gave birth to all of my children and
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  Speaker 2: just was so supportive when I went back to school
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  Speaker 2: by watching them and keeping them while I study. And
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  Speaker 2: it was just everything from me sitting up late at
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  Speaker 2: night to you fixing them breakfast in the morning, to
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  Speaker 2: me going to get them and you keeping them for
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  Speaker 2: me while I just went through everything, even when I
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  Speaker 2: was in labor and I was having one child and
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  Speaker 2: you was dead at home with the other. But one
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  Speaker 2: of the days I won't forget is my first child
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  Speaker 2: that I had, I had a C section and he
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  Speaker 2: comes up to the hospital and he starts cracking jokes,
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  Speaker 2: and when you are all stinks up your belly don't
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  Speaker 2: want to move to last. So we had to ask
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  Speaker 2: security to get them out of it. Me and the
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  Speaker 2: other women that was in it that went through the
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  Speaker 2: same thing, And that was to me, I could just
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  Speaker 2: look at that as it was yesterday. But those days
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say, are going. They're still etched in
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  Speaker 2: right here. I don't forget any of the time that
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  Speaker 2: we shared together. My producers saying that she can't wait
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  Speaker 2: to meet you, and I can't wait for you guys
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  Speaker 2: to meet I wait to meet you too. And she's
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  Speaker 2: my other daughter, my bonus daughter. I don't even like
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  Speaker 2: saying bonus. She's my daughter as well. It's just that
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  Speaker 2: so much has changed, and some of the course I
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  Speaker 2: know that that I know I've changed a lot. My
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  Speaker 2: children are not babies anymore. His children are not babies anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just what does it seeing and feel like
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  Speaker 2: just seeing them now that.
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  Speaker 6: When you went away there was still packaging and now
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  Speaker 6: they're not. They're just still strange. I'm still trying to
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  Speaker 6: feel it my way through. It's gonna be a minute.
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  Speaker 6: You don't take me a longer and long, Jerney to
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  Speaker 6: go to my family feel real good right now when
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  Speaker 6: we're here to make sure that you get through. We
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  Speaker 6: know things have changed.
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  Speaker 2: One of the biggest things that I couldn't wait to
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  Speaker 2: see was you coming through the door and seeing our mother. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you guys know my mother, she's been on here again.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to brag about it. She's going to be
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  Speaker 2: one hundred next year. And he is home to celebrate
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  Speaker 2: her birthday, and they're saying, take your time, we got you.
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  Speaker 2: It's just I appreciate that it has been such a transition.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I transitioned as well. I've said several
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  Speaker 2: times when you were inside, you were doing twenty seven years,
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  Speaker 2: and then I was doing twenty seven years out here.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's rough out here. It's rough.
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  Speaker 7: I'm gonna take it one day at a time.
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  Speaker 2: So what is one of the things that you was
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  Speaker 2: looking forward to besides your family, besides us, you know, coming.
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  Speaker 8: Home, cooking dinner for my mother did this morning after
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  Speaker 8: this morning this morning, scrambled eggs, sausages, biscuits, panky, I'll
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  Speaker 8: get easy to pack it.
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  Speaker 7: But I forgot a panty rits. Yeah, I'm cooking. The
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  Speaker 7: stove messed me up. Mine. I'm back.
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  Speaker 2: Now. There's a pot that we had that my grandmother
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  Speaker 2: had that he always said that he wanted to stay
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  Speaker 2: with him. I uh, I have that pot. He's not
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  Speaker 2: getting anything anything. So you must remember, Betwese, I said,
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  Speaker 2: this is the brother hot dog.
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  Speaker 7: Change my food, you'll love it. They might love to cook.
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  Speaker 2: You can. He can cook.
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  Speaker 7: I give what you remember the cooking in twice seven years.
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  Speaker 2: You can cook now. I dabble in the kitchen. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't cook, not like he doing, not like other
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  Speaker 2: members of my family. I just I didn't have to cook.
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  Speaker 2: They cooked, you know, so yes you can. Well I cooked.
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  Speaker 2: The meal was like Thanksgiving and stuff like that. But
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  Speaker 2: after that, I'm done. I just don't you know things
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  Speaker 2: have changed that I noticed I lost one of the
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  Speaker 2: things that I work, a cell phone. Well that's one
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  Speaker 2: of the things. I was gonna say what he had.
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  Speaker 2: He had somebody calling in. Now I'm gonna take this car.
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  Speaker 7: I'm still beeper.
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  Speaker 2: Hi Catt see black after dark. Hello, we got a
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  Speaker 2: Misscorb with the just please call back, please call back.
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  Speaker 2: We I was saying that we he had these phones
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  Speaker 2: at the time that he went in, and one of
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  Speaker 2: those big, big cell phones that we used to carry
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  Speaker 2: around like they had with what Eddie Murphy and them
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  Speaker 2: they had had. So this is what we had back
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  Speaker 2: then when he can remember. But now he's sitting there
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  Speaker 2: rocking with two cell phones and I only have one.
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  Speaker 2: He has one. But she said, what is the biggest
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  Speaker 2: change to you?
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  Speaker 7: That's a good one. Uh, it's not no longer my family, right,
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  Speaker 7: m you're still trying to try and fill my family.
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  Speaker 7: I don't they all seem they changed to me.
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  Speaker 2: One thing I can say is that he does seem
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  Speaker 2: to be the same.
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  Speaker 7: I'm the same, But everybody James changed. They's still fairy.
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  Speaker 7: I just started doing the same as like before. Who
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  Speaker 7: I left.
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  Speaker 2: Well, one of the things that I hope that has
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  Speaker 2: changed with him is his driving. This brother, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: tell you, and I'm gonna save in front of him.
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  Speaker 2: We were on our way to the Bronx to go
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  Speaker 2: visit my aunt and I told him that I would drive,
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  Speaker 2: and he said, no, I'm gonna drive. I've been driving
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  Speaker 2: before we were born. Now, mind you, he's only forty
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  Speaker 2: years older than me. Right, I'll get back to that.
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  Speaker 2: Still mean basically black dark caller? Hi, how are you
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  Speaker 2: all right? Give us your name? Bedly Lewis is on
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  Speaker 2: the phone.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, how you doing, Carol? I'm doing pretty good right now.
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  Speaker 7: It's good to hear your boys too. Hope to see
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  Speaker 7: you soon. How did you feel when you finally walked
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  Speaker 7: out of those gates. I felt wonderful. This is felt
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  Speaker 7: I felt wonderful shiting Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: I feel well, Carol. We're reading some of the.
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  Speaker 7: It was a long time, and it was a long
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  Speaker 7: time in there. I just made it through. It's just
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  Speaker 7: it was really rough, but I made it through, and
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  Speaker 7: I feel great.
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  Speaker 2: We're reading some of the questions that's coming across the screen,
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  Speaker 2: so you can just hold on for a minute. Channette
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  Speaker 2: Johnson is a power house when it comes to our
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  Speaker 2: brothers and our sisters that are incarcerated. She has been
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  Speaker 2: reaching out to them and talking to them about their
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  Speaker 2: cases and trying to make some things move. And she's
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  Speaker 2: been moving and shaking, and she wanted to speak with you,
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  Speaker 2: but I said, this is my brother, so I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to do the first interview with him. And at the
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  Speaker 2: time being that he was still incarcerat and I knew
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  Speaker 2: he was on his way out. I knew she would
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  Speaker 2: have took care of you, but you know the system,
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  Speaker 2: one little slip up with any word the way to
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  Speaker 2: keep you in there. So I wanted to wait and
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  Speaker 2: make this day special again. I said, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: spoil myself and be selfish I wanted to make that
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  Speaker 2: day special for me to have that first interview with him. Carol.
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  Speaker 2: He's still here and he's still talking to you. Thanks Shane,
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Carol.
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  Speaker 7: What you got on your mind? Yes it is.
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  Speaker 9: This is Kyle's been saying that you're truly missed from
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  Speaker 9: the family, y'all. Always y'all, I was thought about you
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  Speaker 9: every day. Every day I thought about everybody. Yeah, I see,
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  Speaker 9: I called you constantly, Carol.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on for a minute. We have somebody to ask, well,
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  Speaker 2: the producer ask what would you give to the younger generation.
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  Speaker 7: Advice would be, stay out of trouble where I was at,
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  Speaker 7: don't just do the right thing in life. Family is
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  Speaker 7: always important. Stay with your family, now are you most
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  Speaker 7: of your siblings you know that's my advice. Keep a
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  Speaker 7: positive attitude. We alls what you're going through. One of
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  Speaker 7: them believing God. One of the things I want to
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  Speaker 7: know is is just let go and let God. That's
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  Speaker 7: what That's what my advice is.
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  Speaker 2: I want to thank you so much Carol for calling in.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. We got other people that are are
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  Speaker 2: also trying to call, but you guys that they have
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  Speaker 2: each other's numbers. So I know they're going to stay connected.
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  Speaker 2: And we're friends on Facebook, so we'll stay connected. Like
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  Speaker 2: you said, we are, we are there, so we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: definitely stay connected.
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  Speaker 7: He call, and I'll get your call a little later.
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  Speaker 2: Though. One of the things that I commend you for
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  Speaker 2: is you've been in there for twenty seven years and
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  Speaker 2: never caught a charge, never got into trouble, never had
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  Speaker 2: a right down. And some people will say, nah, that's
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  Speaker 2: not true. He had to have gotten into trouble. He
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  Speaker 2: had to have this, he had to have that.
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  Speaker 7: Jumping out of trouble. I read my Bible every day
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  Speaker 7: until he worked twenty four hours a day, all day long,
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  Speaker 7: every day. I was really never locked in. I was
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  Speaker 7: out from six in the morning to ten at night.
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  Speaker 7: Was never locked in the sell like everybody else. And
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  Speaker 7: I worked like twenty five twenty six years straight.
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  Speaker 2: Rod.
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  Speaker 7: You catch a charge of it, which to hold and
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  Speaker 7: then when to add? Never need to fights, broke up
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  Speaker 7: a lot of fights with everybody. Make sure everybody was positive,
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  Speaker 7: and that's said everybody, just Tim. I really ran. The
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  Speaker 7: two prisons I was in Ward were two worse prisons
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  Speaker 7: than there was in Jersey, where I was at One.
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  Speaker 2: Of the things that I want to add to that
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  Speaker 2: is that when you are a family member and you
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  Speaker 2: have to and you're visiting a person incarcerated, sometimes you're
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  Speaker 2: treated as if you were incarcerated as well. And I
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  Speaker 2: think they need to change that up, because we're going
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  Speaker 2: to visit our loved ones and no matter what the
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  Speaker 2: state may say, we're human beings too, and they treat
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  Speaker 2: us on the outside when we're trying to get in
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  Speaker 2: on the inside to see you how bad it is?
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  Speaker 2: So how was it? Because I worked with a lot
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  Speaker 2: of incarcerated black males in Texas and right now they
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  Speaker 2: are going they're going through hell. Inmates are dying left
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  Speaker 2: and right from drug overdose.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, they was dying drug the doing all kinds of
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  Speaker 7: drugs where I was at and the ones that was
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  Speaker 7: around me that was that was almost dying. I saved
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  Speaker 7: the couple people from overdose in getting cprs. Got no
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: CPR and for my for my mop on them, but
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: I know, I know how CPR is. I taught the
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  Speaker 7: people that was around me CPR. We brought to throw
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  Speaker 7: the people back. They left to go home. Two three
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  Speaker 7: much later, they died the street when they got out.
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  Speaker 2: So do you think it was like I'm in the
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  Speaker 2: reference where people that's been in there for such a
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  Speaker 2: long time when they come out, they can't deal with.
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  Speaker 7: The thing is they stopped the drug programs and a
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  Speaker 7: lot of drug programs and some of the prisons where
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  Speaker 7: I was at. If they continued going doing the drug programs,
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  Speaker 7: there are a lot of people will change. They just
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  Speaker 7: stopped a lot of drug programs and people just start
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  Speaker 7: getting high in the prisons.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 7: So I've seen a lot of people die from overdose.
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  Speaker 7: I've seen a lot of people hung. I've seen a
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  Speaker 7: lot of will beat up when the police got killed
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  Speaker 7: from the police. I see a lot of people take
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  Speaker 7: their own lives by jumping off the balconies. I see
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  Speaker 7: so much excuse my language, so much rape, people, men
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: hollering for their mothers and fathers. And it's just it
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: was just really well or people that just had to
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: deal with it. Me and myself, I have to worry
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: about none of that, and it involved myself for none
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: of it. Stay to myself while irate my Bible, Like
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: I said, every day I read the River from Genesis,
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: the Revelations, I know every prayer in each book. I
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: was doing that when I was home. Anybody know you,
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: anybody knows me, can tell you how I am, how
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: I was in there.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's a lot to take in for anybody
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: that's in prison. For those of you who are listening
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: and you have relatives that's in there, my hearts go
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: out to each and every one of you. I couldn't
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: even begin to think what it was like being in
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: the inside and knowing that you had to face that
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: every day, day in and day out, and knowing that
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: it could even be your loved one, that this could
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: be happening to or that's in there, and something. Most
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: of them, you know, are in there because of systems
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: that have failed them, and then they got systems inside
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the prisons that are still feeling them. So what could
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: be done two help those that are incarcerated, And I
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: would say is that to get out and vote. To
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: get out and vote so things can change. I'm not
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: going to sit in and tell anybody who to vote for,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: but your vote do count, and that each and every
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: one of you that can vote, both of those that
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: are still in prison, vote, both of those who are
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: coming out of prison, both of those family members that
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: have those relatives that's in prison. It's I can say
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: it over and over again that it's it's been rough.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: We've lost so many family members that he wasn't able
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: to be there for. You know, I have my dad
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: who we lost, my sister who we lost, and I
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: have two nieces and nephew and my husband as well
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: who we lost, and he could not be there for that.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: To mourn the loss with the family. That's got to
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: be hard, especially when you hear the news. I believe
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: they take you and separate you from population.
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: They locked me in the cell for a whole week
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: or two because everybody was scared to be around me.
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: Locked me in every time somebody passed away in the family,
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: it locked in the cell for two or three weeks.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: That do they just see them? Now? Do they do
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: that to all the inmates when they lose.
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: A fantom just the ones that looked that they pissed
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: off as I was.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Wow. So you see some of the conditions. What is
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: one of the things that you think that they should
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: immediately besides the drug program that they need to bring
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: into the prisons or what types of changes you think
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: they should make.
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: But they're doing that. They're doing that now as big
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: the churches and the job, the Muslim service that help
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: a lot of men in women in prisons. They calm
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: a lot of stuff down. But it's not it's not
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: about the churches stuff. It's the people that's in prison
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: be messing it up for themselves, the things they do
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: in church and everything that they get it stopped when
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: they stopped the Muslim service or anything they do and
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: any kind of career service, any kind of meeting that
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: they want to have, they do so stupid and they
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: shut it down.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: What was it like? We we dealt with COVID on side,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: But what was it like inside being locked in in
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: COVID where we were told to stay in here?
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: What was there COVID inside? There was everybody walking around
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: masks on. Can't be too close to nobody else who
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: died and nothing might bodies over the place, dead bodies
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: and as I was, worthy, bodies are worthy storing the
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: bodies of the bodies being moved out with with forre
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: the nights over device. A lot of people don't say
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: loves of COVID in there. I had four shots, four
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: COVID shots. I never had the COVID in at all
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: or anything I caught since I've been alive is a flu.
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: Never been sick in my life, no other kind of know,
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: the guns, sickness or anything. Thank God.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: When you when you were in incarcerated, there was compositions
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: that you've had with your son's my children breaks God, yes,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: thank you. And one of the things that I know
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: they was playing little games with you, telling you that
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: they're not kids anymore and stuff like that, that you
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: can't tell them what to do, they're grown now and whatnot.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: What were you thinking when they were telling you things
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: like that, especially your signs telling you that you know
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: they can't wait for you to come out, and they
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: got they got something for.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: You and stuff talking all all my sons, my nephews,
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: the players are.
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: Tell them that I got to beat down list. When
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: I get out, they're on my beatdown list, and work
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: them over, let them know I'm back. I am coming
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: back and I'm back. But to give my sister a
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: hard time or my mother? Whybody, family? You got to
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: see me? It's all in fun though, it's all games,
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: just playing. Yeah, I ain't gonna be more too bad.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I have grandchildren that heard me talk about their uncle
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Smokey uncle smoky, uncle smoking, and I spoke about him
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: so much. And the countdown where I'm talking about when
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: we say counting, we were counting down up until the
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: minute that he walked through the door. I'm sitting in
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: the window working and just kept looking. I'm talk about
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: call it went past. I'm looking and I said, I
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: gotta stop, I gotta stop. He's gonna call me and
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: whatnot when he gets closer. But that the next part
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: it went past. I kept looking, and the look in
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: one of my children's eyes. I saw them looking at
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: me while I was looking at you, and the look
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: on their face was I did it now. I did
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: it now as far as who you say he was
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: and what he meant to you and what he means
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: to you, and they know that that's just that kind
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: of lump that's there and that it just never I don't.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I think it did change. I think that it grew
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: stronger than it was before for but I know that
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I have to let go because I feel like I
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: have to protect you. And I know you would say
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: where you protected me from. It's it's rough out here,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and I know that you can handle it. But I'm
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: still saying that stuff like watch this, watch that, watch
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: this type of person, watch that, and that's just that's
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: just I guess how I'm built with that. But I
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: know that your sons are going to take care of you.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I know you're just an airplane because I'm not getting
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: on the bus. You're just an airplane away, and you'll
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: be coming back and forth. And I'm so happy that
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: you daughter enough to come by here first to see
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: us before you go. We got another quote. Hello, oh yes,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: basic black at the dark Ya hey here, I'm fine.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's old, it's old. Yeah. This is my
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: nephew and this is his son, and he's letting him
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: know and reminding him.
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: You never wanted to beat that list anywhere. I know
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: what you're talking about.
• 28:21
  Speaker 10: Happy, huh oh you got jokes, Yes, you got another
• 28:30
  Speaker 10: star that your name.
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: I'll be down in Georgia soon.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: Holdly, look that you take pants. You get you a good.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's one on the list.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: But later, oh oh, sounds like somebody talking to somebody
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: about to get a beat down.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: And I'm not sure's giddy, but yeah, I just want
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: y'all to send me pictures, Send me pictures of the headlights.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: The knuckles, all of that. Send me pictures because I
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: have something I wanted to say. I know I'm he said,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: he's ready for that little man. So I've seen him.
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: I've seen when I get that.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I've seen him standing next to your brother. Yeah. So
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: you somebody when you are you talling at him? Oh?
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, So this is gonna be a good beatdown
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: for somebody. Somebody's in for something he's not. He's trying
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: to tell you he's not an inkui bitter any I'm
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: gonna working over.
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: Canna be. I gonna work you over the Thank god,
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: real funny guy.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: You know that you can't wait. He's He's leaving tomorrow morning.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: So that's gonna definitely be bittersweet. But the best part
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: is that I know I know what I'm saying, and
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I know that when when I need them, I can
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: call them, I can get to him, he can get here.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: It's not like there's going to be a need, but
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: it's just knowing that he's home and that it starts
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: to put pieces back together for me, part of me
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: that I won't say it was broken, but well I
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: have some cracks in it. So you filled in some
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: of those cracks for me, and I know how your
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: kids must feel. You know those are your children. How
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I'm feeling as your sister. Yeah, I spent more years
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: in your life than they did, but there's still your children.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: And one of them that's here. He just the day
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: that he came in here saying, wait to go get
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: you and you guys, the three of you to be together.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: That just makes me smile knowing that y'all are gonna
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: be together. Please take pictures and send them to me
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: so I can see the.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: Three of you. Don't forget you.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not forgetting your doors at all. I'm definitely forgetting that.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: If she's watching them, sweet, I'm not forgetting you. I'm
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: just saying being and somebody that grew up with mostly brothers.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: To watch these three men and they look so much alike,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: it's going to be phenomenal. I can't wait to be
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: in their presence together to actually watch like me. So
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: in other words, they're lucky. It looked like me too.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: But see now, now see I'm wanting the side to
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: a degree, but you are on you on natural Lincoln
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: threats and you can't do that, So it's just gonna be.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: It's like I said, it's gonna be a bittersweet, but
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: it's all good. And but then they know it or not.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I cried last night, like it's not real, it's not real,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: it's this is just not happening. This day actually came
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: tapping it down, from the years to the months, to
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: the days to the minutes.
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: You quiet, and you used to be no more have
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: to wait.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: You believe me, You're gonna definitely know the difference between
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: this hard floor and a soret firm mattress and whatnot.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: You start the master these two cell phones that you
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: have nerves. I am not gonna say nothing about the women. Yes,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I know how you were and you probably still will be.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: With the women. I'm gonna step aside and not be
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: over protective. You leave it alone and let you do you.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna keep my eye on some of y'all.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I know how to get down there, but I can
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: never say and know how happy I am that your
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: your home and then we get to share this this
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: moment with you, that mommy can get to share this
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: time with you and nieces and great nieces. And I'm
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: understanding that you are going to be not You're not
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: just a grandfather. You're going to be a great grandfather
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: as well. So congratulations, you beat me to the punch.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Shut I love you. Yeah, he's beat me to that punch.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: And and for many reasons why I'm glad that he's
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: beat me to the punch, because I'm not ready to
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: be a great grandmother, barely dealing with the grandkids that
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I got their handful. But once you get to see
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: your grand children, I want you to tell me how
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: that feels when you're around them. It's it's a much
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: different feeling than it is when you see your own
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: children grow up, because you get it's.
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: I could get a do over right there, I can
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: tell you, I can honestly tell you right now, be
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: nervous about my grandkids.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Right Why do you think you'll be nervous?
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: Because I haven't seen them and I haven't groom going
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: up with me can be a little nervous, So I'll
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: be all right, though, just give me a little nervous.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I think that they've heard probably stories about.
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: You, like I know I have. But I'm still gonna
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: a little nervous. I may speak tomorrow the time in
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: the form and all that, but seeing them and have
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: them standing in front of me. Yeah, I'll be all right,
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: though there's nothing so one point I can't get over.
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: What was it like when you saw mommy?
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: No, that worried.
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: I can't even make up yet. I can't even find
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: a way for that one yet. And it's just all
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: it's all about none but.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Beautiful it was. It was.
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: Just more an amazing to just look at her face
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: and knowing that she's around, to be still around for
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: me to see her. I was talking and talking, Oh no,
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: everything is beautiful.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So she's just upstairs along with many many family
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: members upstairs.
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: They came to take our dancing even though she's nine
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: nine years old.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: When will the talk with Sebastian Roy's be you know,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Sebastian Royce. When will the talk with Sebastian Roy's b
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: u h, When will you talk with Sebastian Royce? That's
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: by I have no idea who.
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: Who is Sebastian Royce. I don't know who Sebastian ways is.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: And un that's it was typed wrong, but she Knet
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Johnson saying that's a blessing. I guess she's that's mine.
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: Sebastian Royce, who Sebastian Royce.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: She might have been somebody that was inside. She may
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: have known m that may have been incarcerated at the times.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: No guess one of one of her guests. So she's saying,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: what would it be like for Sebastian wu was I
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: guess to be like when he comes home? I guess
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: you may be repersenting that or maybe you being a
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: guest on her shows or something. Because of course she's
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: gonna have different questions than I have. But your mind
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: is just all love and just saying, I just gotta
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: how long how long has he been?
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: Is he outsy home?
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Sebastian words, I guess I think I know Sebastian Wards
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: is now that that's I believe her partner and maybe
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: one of her guests that that comes on. They were
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: asking about a guest that's coming on Chanette's show. What
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: was the question about the guests about coming on chette show?
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Or asked about him being a guest on on Chett's
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: show or a guest that's gonna be coming on her show?
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Because I'm not clear, but the question is that you're accing.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: But Sheette has a show, she does it. She's the
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: one that I was telling you about that, does it
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: with incarcerated? With incarcerated? So that person is asking, no,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: it's still it's just I can't hear, but they can.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: So No, he's not home. He's going to be He's
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: going to be on the show. Okay. So yeah, so
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: that's somebody's saying, what was it? The question was what
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: was it going to be like for him? He's not home,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a guest on his show.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: So what what?
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: I guess what would depends on the situation. Depends on
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: what situation he went through since he been there, was
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: it was?
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: It?
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: Was it hard for him?
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Was it rough for him? It was hard for me.
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: He went through a lot of trouble and trauma and
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: everything with the officers, correction officers. He's not allow, you're
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: not on the vacation, and he wasn't in the whole accent.
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: See I never experienced being in the whole a lot
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: of ben accent or fighting anybody. But he should be
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: all right, He's coming home, he's alive, Thank god, He's
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: gonna be okay, he's gonna call you later. So yeah,
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: I can't I can honestly say he's gonna be okay,
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: he's gonna be in the show.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: He's gonna be okay, and she has just so much infamy.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: All like to meet him the basting Ards. You would
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: like to do, well, I'm gonna definitely give you an
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: information for your next show so you can actually see it.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: So he's gonna be on the show, so you could
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: see her talking to him, But it's gonna be a
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: different set up than what we're doing. He's probably not
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: gonna be sitting next to her and like you're sitting
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: next to me. He's gonna be on the screen and
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: they'll be talking to each other or either you may
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: hear him with a conversation because I'm not sure how
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: they'll set it up for when he made so he
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: may just be calling in and you made just he
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: had voice and you know, like they're coming. They were
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: asking about a guest that's coming on Chinette show. Yeah,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: we got that that I guess that's coming on Chanette show,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: how Ward Shabastian. That person is a friend of Sebastian
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Roy who was coming on chaneche who I don't know
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: who Sebastian Roy is, but he's a friend of Sebastian Roy.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: He's coming on Chette show. So so yeah, So I
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: guess it's different for everybody. And I'm just speaking from
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: just observing and watching Channette show. She she, like I said,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: she's a powerhouse with it, with with her questions, with
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: talking to these gentlemen and how she's making them feel.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: And they seem he is going to be on Chanez.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: So they thought his show was tonight. Oh okay, yeah,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: they thought the show was tonight. Okay, we got it,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: thank you. Okay, he's gonna be he should be. Okay,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: they thought his show was tonight. But she I see
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: when she's doing her conversation with her guests that near
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: in you. You hear them with such gratitude and saying
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: thank you, and it's just being humble with them saying
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: thing because she's giving them a platform to be able
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: to speak, so they do have a voice on her show.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: And that's something I commend you Chette for doing. It's
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: not something that everybody can do, and in the way
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: that she does it, in the way she carries it out,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I again commend her for doing it and for wanting
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: to do it. So in anybody, that's if you have
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: family that's incarcerated, get in touch with the Crew Network
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: podcast network and ask for Seanette or get in touch
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: with Chette on her show so you can have them
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: on the show because they're they're breaking down walls and
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: barriers with those that are incarcerated, and it is really
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: really needed. It wasn't something that I myself could have
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: could have done, because I know my brother was in
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: there and I would have been probably saying things that
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: have probably got me incarcerated along with him. So it
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: was something that I just couldn't do, and my opinions
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: would have been probably the wrong opinion to have. But
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: she's able to do it in such a graceful way
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: that I'm intrigued when I watch her show, you know,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: with the way that she handles the callers and the responses,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: and even some of them they say is they may
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: come on saying it one way and being a little
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: maybe inappropriate, but by the time they finish hearing her
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: and hearing the guests, you hit a difference and what
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: they may have thought at first. So I appreciate you
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: for doing what you do. But again, it's about this
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: guy right here, and it has been about him for
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: such a long time that I spoken to people that
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: don't even know him that I've met about this brother
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: here and his time and there, and it was just
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: always positive conversations with them not knowing them and bailing
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: on me because that's just the way I felt like
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I just needed to talk to someone to get it
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: out and just to let people know that this is
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: what a person feels like when they have someone incarcerated.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: And I remember one time I went to visit you
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: and the way the officers on the outside was treating
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: people and the elderly that was coming in to see
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: their loved ones. You know, I was sitting there saying
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: that it should be a better way for them to
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: allow people. They're treating us like with the inmates. You know.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: One of the things that I saw when I did
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: go through and they saw me sitting down with you,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: they was like, like, that's your family. Oh I didn't know.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: So does that make a difference because now that you
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: know who I'm with, meaning that this is my brother,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: that you would have treated me different. You know, I
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: appreciate that you and and the office has got along,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: but what about everybody else that was standing in that
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: along with me, that was being treated in a way.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: And I won't say it was what you call an
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: appropriate like touch or anything like that. It was just
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: the attitude.
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: This attitude, you know, how each individual treats the officers,
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: and how the officers treated each each individual. They go
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: back arguing with each each other, and then they know
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: they're gonna get a visit, and then when the visit comes,
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: they're also gonna give the visitor all the time. Yeah,
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: that's how that's how things working there. You know, every
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: option they respected me, I respect them. They didn't getting
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: my way and getting their everybody that loved me, and
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: that's what I saw, you know, my time to come out.
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: Once they saw who I was, I was visiting and whatnot,
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: they were you know, not like that and whatnot. And
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: you know, I was just not back because I'm like,
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: I really know what.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Was going on. But after doing it for such a
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: long time and coming in visitings and you start to
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: catch on to the way they did things, from the
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: clothes you could wear there for visits, to the clothes
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: you can't wear, to the way you gotta just almost
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: about wear your hair, no jewelry, no rings. Make sure
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: if you're going in wear a T shirt with nothing
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: on it written on it, with a pair of jeans
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: and pair of shoes or sneakers that you can slide
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: on and slide off easy, so you won't have to
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: have no problem, so your visit won't be denied, because
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: that's a hard thing to travel a distance to go
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: see a loved one and then you get there and
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: you can't go into visit, and especially when they know
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: that you are coming to visit, you know, it could
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: be very hard on both parties. And it's even harder
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: on the children that's coming to visit their mother or father,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: whether it's incarcerated or grandfather, whoever it is, it's very
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: hard on them, you know, coming in when I was
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: visiting you, sometimes I would see children in there and
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: you would hear some people saying, how did you bring
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: children up here? Or why would you bring your child
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: up there? I can't answer for that as far as
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: why a person would or why a person would not
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: decide to bring their children. But for the inmates that
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: did have their children coming to see them, how hard
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: was it for both for the children who were leaving,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: and then.
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: That it's probably hard for a person leaving were you're leaving.
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: Kids don't leave sometimes, and people that's coming with the
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: kids don't't leave. Nobody won't leave their loved ones in there.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I know the first time that I visited, I
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: wanted to say, cool, and we're going.
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: My daughter didn't want to leave when she came to
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: see me.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard about that, about the whole thing that occurred.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: I was even wondering whether they was gonna let anybody
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: else come to visit because she didn't want her father
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: to stay there and be there without her.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: But there's plenty of times, and I know, or I
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: was grown, you know, just remember we have to move
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: forward and continue to strive. We all have gifts and talents.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: So what define us in life is what we do
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: with our gifts and talents. Keep your striving forward. And
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: that one's from my brother, see the intelligence and this family.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: See how well written that once my sentiments exactly. Yeah,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: it's it can be rough. It can be rough on families. Brother,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: so feel so good to hear somebody else be called
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: little a little brother or something. But it's it could
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: be very hard on the family. You see the kids,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: you know, playing on the other side, and it's almost
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: like they're in prison. And I'm not saying again whether
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: it's right or wrong to bring them there. That's the
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: family's choice. But you watch them and they watch babies
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: are coming in there, and sometimes you see prevent women
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: that's coming in there and whatnot, and and it's just
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: that I'm not saying that they should be acting like
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: or setting it up like they're on vacation, or they
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: should set up the visit areas and whatnot. But it's
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: from the moment that you come from that gate and
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: you're standing out in that cold waiting for them to
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: allow you to go to the next part, and then
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: you checked and then your your belts coming off. So
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: try to wear what you can. You ain't got to
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: do that. Janette says she cries every time she leaves
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: her husband. Well, it wasn't my husband, but I know
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: that I kind of know the feelings that leaving there
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: and knowing that you're coming on without them, that that
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: was the first time that I went. That's time crying
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: and whatnot. All the way back. I had an attitude
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I would have probably got arrested for cope stopped.
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: You mean you you cried when you leave your husband.
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: But your husband. He probably cried too. When you go
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: back to yourself a where he's going to a lot
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: of men still still listen to the prisons can vicious
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: from everybody when they.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Go back aside.
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: Teach come out of their eyes too. To me quite
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: a few times now, she didn't admit that, and that
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: that's they should be crying.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: They couldn't.
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: They couldn't give me a home and everything. Tell me
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: you're gonna be all right. I'll be home soon. I
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: know I'm gonna go home soon. Not admitted them and
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: be home so like your husband and your husband will
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: come home soon.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why, I know that I got a family upstairs.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: That's saying you're taking them all my time. You're having
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: them to yourself one hour. If I can keep him here,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I would. I would love to keep my brother here
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: with me. But life have to move on for him.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: And I'm just so proud and so happy that he
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: is home and that he's gonna spend the rest of
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: his life with his family on the outside. I want
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: you guys to tune in to Basic Black after doc
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: in two weeks. My guess this will be author Onix Rice.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: She's also a playwright, so I want you to come
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: and check out our show. And good love to those
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: we're still incarcerated with the families who have those who
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: are incarcerated. Man, see you guys in a few weeks.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: And thank you so much for tuning into this special
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: show for me. Thank you so grateful that you're always
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: able to tune in.
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: Thank you as well.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and good night me.
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: Good night
• 49:29
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• 49:35
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