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NBA Fans Might Be Too SMART... · Kenny For Real

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  Speaker 1: I feel like NBA fans are becoming too smart. And
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  Speaker 1: when I say that, I don't mean that sarcastically or facetiously.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that that right now, the average NBA fan
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  Speaker 1: is significantly more in tune with the NBA than any
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  Speaker 1: time before. And that may seem like a great thing,
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  Speaker 1: but I think in some parts it can be really bad.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm in this as well. I'm not calling out
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  Speaker 1: anybody specifically. I am part of the problem. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that. That's gonna be the case
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  Speaker 1: for the NFL, the NHL, the MLB, the soccer leagues
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  Speaker 1: across the world.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really know. I'm not in those circles.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm specifically gonna talk about the NBA, and I
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  Speaker 1: want to start off where this mindset started for me.
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  Speaker 2: So yesterday to eet it zach.
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  Speaker 1: Lavine and shooting forty four point four percent from three
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  Speaker 1: on seven attempts is what they should say, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: And then my guy Automatic NBA replied with this best
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four twenty twenty five shooters so far. Points
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  Speaker 1: added for pull up threes, catch shoot threes, free throws,
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  Speaker 1: and long tumbs twos As of January ten, twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: the best shooter in basketball this season so far has
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  Speaker 1: been Anthony Verards. He's leagues above Steph Curry, which is
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  Speaker 1: kind of crazy. And and Anthony everags pull up three
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  Speaker 1: point shooting?
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  Speaker 2: Is that good?
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  Speaker 1: The only person that's close to him is Jordan Poole.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of but that's ridiculous that you got Steph Curry
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  Speaker 1: number three and Zach Lavine, Steph curR number two and
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  Speaker 1: Zack Levine number three.
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  Speaker 2: This season, Zach Levine has been absolutely on a burner.
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  Speaker 1: Here's his stats for the first six games of twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five so far.
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  Speaker 2: Do do you see this?
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  Speaker 1: Thirty six, thirty three, thirty one, thirty five, thirty three,
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  Speaker 1: thirty two Like he's currently on the strets. There only
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  Speaker 1: a few NBA or a few Chicago Bulls have ever
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  Speaker 1: ever been on. Can you guess the list? I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: you can, But Zack Lavine is currently doing that right now.
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  Speaker 1: And I promise you this is not a Zach Levine
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  Speaker 1: propaganda video. This is just the start of all of
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  Speaker 1: the thoughts that's been going in my mind.
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  Speaker 2: So I tweeted that right.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, zach Lavin has been amazing, Like there's no trade
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  Speaker 1: marking for him whatsoever, I guess, and he's been better
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  Speaker 1: than anybody could have expected this season. And normally, normally,
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  Speaker 1: if you have a guy that can give you thirty
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  Speaker 1: on any given night, that can shoot fifty.
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  Speaker 2: Percent from the field forty five percent from.
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  Speaker 1: Three on seven attempts per game, that guy would have
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  Speaker 1: a market if he was available for trade. And that's
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  Speaker 1: not the case for zach Levine. And sure that's understandable.
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  Speaker 1: Zach Lavin's contract is not a good contract. Again, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not here to try to convince you of that. But
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  Speaker 1: that's not our job. That's not our job sitting at home.
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  Speaker 1: That's for the gms across basketball to figure out. When
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  Speaker 1: I tweet that zach Lavine has been on a burner,
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  Speaker 1: the amount of people that are thinking about the contract
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  Speaker 1: of zach Levine versus the player of zach Lavine's astronomical
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  Speaker 1: I feel like there's different levels of NBA fandom, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying one is more important than the other.
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  Speaker 1: I sit on the place that I'm talking about. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I have an entire gaming channel specifically when we make
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  Speaker 1: trades and try to build perfect teams, right, So, Because
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  Speaker 1: of that, I feel like I know the average NBA
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  Speaker 1: player's salary, how long they're in the contract, do they
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  Speaker 1: have a player option, is there a trade kicker, do
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  Speaker 1: they have a poison peel?
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  Speaker 2: I know all of that.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm reading the CBA type shit, and I feel
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  Speaker 1: like other NBA fans are in that as well, and
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  Speaker 1: that can be detrimental to you in the product. Instead
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  Speaker 1: of appreciating this crazy run that Zach Lavina is on,
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  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, kitty, but he's making ten more million
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  Speaker 1: dollars annually than he should. That's crazy to me. So
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  Speaker 1: that's one fandom. That's one part of the fandom. We
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  Speaker 1: are really into the contracts. We are really into the
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  Speaker 1: team building and so on and so forth. I think
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  Speaker 1: the best form of fandom that exists is the fandom
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  Speaker 1: that my dad has. My dad could not care about
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  Speaker 1: who was making any amount of money. At the end
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  Speaker 1: of the day, he wants to see his favorite team
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  Speaker 1: win games. And it is the perfect place to be
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  Speaker 1: as a fan of a sport. At the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day, this is all about competition. This is all
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  Speaker 1: about seeing our team be successful. So though the Bulls,
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  Speaker 1: everybody in their grandma if you really really need to know.
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  Speaker 1: Knew that the Bulls did not have a high ceiling.
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  Speaker 1: We knew that the Bulls at the best would be
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  Speaker 1: a playing team if they didn't trade anybody. But the
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  Speaker 1: fan that my dad is is like, I don't really care. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to a game and gains the OKC thunder.
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  Speaker 1: I think they have a chance to win, and damnit,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch them try to do that.
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  Speaker 2: That is a beautiful, beautiful place to beat.
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  Speaker 1: But because social media or because general managers have convinced
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  Speaker 1: us that tanking is the way to do it, they're
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  Speaker 1: a part of NBA fanoms that really don't care about
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  Speaker 1: winning anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And again I'm part of that.
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  Speaker 1: I will much rather my team have a top five
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  Speaker 1: pick than pick number nine or pick number eleven where
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  Speaker 1: it goes to what the spurs. So because of that,
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  Speaker 1: instead of me watching my favorite team win occasionally and
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  Speaker 1: being excited about a win, I'm on the exact opposite
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  Speaker 1: side of the spectrum. The Bulls beat the Boss and
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  Speaker 1: Celtsas a few weeks back in a game where Zach
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  Speaker 1: Levine was incredible.
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  Speaker 2: It was this.
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  Speaker 1: It was that maybe some crazy officiating favorite towards the bulls,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really care. Instead of me celebrating the fact
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  Speaker 1: that my favorite team just beat the team that won
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  Speaker 1: the championship last year, I was like, damn, that decreased
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  Speaker 1: our odds to keep our pick.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? Is that crazy? Or my tripping?
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  Speaker 1: But again, we have been convinced, and I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: it's a good or a bad thing, that the idea
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  Speaker 1: of tanking watching your favorite team lose can be very
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  Speaker 1: beneficial with three years down the line.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm okay with watching my team lose for for
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  Speaker 2: that reason.
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  Speaker 1: But you know how much trust you're giving the front
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  Speaker 1: office when you do that, When you really say we
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  Speaker 1: want to lose as many games as possible, you need
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  Speaker 1: them to a get good lottery odds.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, part of it is
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  Speaker 2: ping pong balls, y'all win the lottery.
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  Speaker 1: Part of it is that part of is you trusting
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  Speaker 1: that your front office are people that are making the
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  Speaker 1: decisions the ownership are going They're going.
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  Speaker 2: To make the right pick.
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  Speaker 1: And not only are they gonna make the right pick,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna develop that pick. There are so many different
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  Speaker 1: variables in it that like me at wanting my team
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  Speaker 1: to lose is kind of asinine because we have to
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  Speaker 1: see the pieces fall perfectly in the role for it
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  Speaker 1: to matter at the end of the day. Like, do
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  Speaker 1: you remember when Charlotte was the worst team to ever
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  Speaker 1: exist in the NBA because in their mind there wasists
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  Speaker 1: generational talent named Anthony Davis and his years draft class,
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  Speaker 1: and boy, they wanted every chance in the world to
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  Speaker 1: get them. With the lottery odds bounce in a different
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  Speaker 1: different way, and they ended up with Michael K. Gilchers.
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  Speaker 1: Not only did the lottery go a different direction than them,
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  Speaker 1: they are so missed on the pick. There's so many variables, y'all,
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  Speaker 1: and I understand it, Like, how do you convince no shots,
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  Speaker 1: no shots? How do you convince a Wizards fan or
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  Speaker 1: a Jazz fan to be invested in your organization other
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  Speaker 1: than saying you see Cooper Flag drop forty the other night?
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  Speaker 2: Did you see that? Did you see Dylan Harper do this?
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  Speaker 2: Did you see this player do this?
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  Speaker 1: Well, that guy might end up on our team next
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  Speaker 1: season and boom, we'll be back. Like you kind of
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  Speaker 1: you kind of need that to keep NBA fans engaged.
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  Speaker 2: But man, oh man.
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  Speaker 1: Can it be rough when it doesn't work, And I
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  Speaker 1: guess this is what like a hard fan, right, Sacramento
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  Speaker 1: Kings going seventeen years without making the postseason, them convincing themselves.
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  Speaker 1: That's Ben maclamore or Jimmifer Dad or George's Papaiannis or
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  Speaker 1: all of these guys could be the savor of Sacramento
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  Speaker 1: and them all fail. Like that's what makes like two
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  Speaker 1: years ago when it was like the Beams so special.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: This team that I'm talking about, my Chicago Bulls.
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  Speaker 1: We had a time where the lottery odds were in
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  Speaker 1: our favor. We jumped up to the fourth overall pig boom.
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  Speaker 1: We did it. They drafted Patrick Williams. They drafted Patrick Williams,
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  Speaker 1: had interviews with Harry's Halliburton, other great players.
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  Speaker 2: Later in the draft.
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  Speaker 1: We went with Patrick Williams, a guy that didn't start
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  Speaker 1: in college.
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  Speaker 2: Like they could be a good thing that a book
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  Speaker 2: in the starn College was still the likelihood.
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  Speaker 1: The likelihood of a player who wasn't a starter in
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  Speaker 1: college coming to the NBA and being great is pretty
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  Speaker 1: damn low. There are is exceptions, but at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the day is not very high.
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  Speaker 2: Odds. So I'm supposed to.
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  Speaker 1: Trust that that same front office would make a better
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  Speaker 1: decision this time.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard for me to do that.
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  Speaker 1: They can argue that the twenty twenty five draft class
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  Speaker 1: is just so stacked that the likelihood of you missing
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  Speaker 1: in the top ten is pretty low compared to what
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  Speaker 1: it was in twenty twenty. In regardless, I've been a
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  Speaker 1: fan for a long time. I know even the super
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  Speaker 1: stacked draft classes are gonna have people that don't live up.
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  Speaker 2: To the hype. So again, just a lot of trusts.
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  Speaker 1: When I was younger, I was a type of fan
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  Speaker 1: that I'm talking about with my dad, and that was
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  Speaker 1: again partially because I wasn't as much in the note that.
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  Speaker 2: Like from the year two thousand and three to.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen or so, that is the type of fan
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  Speaker 1: that I was for my favorite team.
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  Speaker 2: Part of that was earlier stages.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking when I was eight years old,
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  Speaker 1: and when I was twelve, the Bulls were just really
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  Speaker 1: really bad and I was just finding the game of basketball.
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  Speaker 1: But I still love the game so much that like
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  Speaker 1: it didn't really matter, but I was still sitting down
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  Speaker 1: waiting for the moment for them.
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  Speaker 2: To really pop off.
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  Speaker 1: And then once I've started to become more and to
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  Speaker 1: know we had dere Grose, Joe King, Noah Luel Dang
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. So it's like I'm rooted for the win
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  Speaker 1: every night anyway because we're legitimate contenders, and then want
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  Speaker 1: to start shifting to more of a career of me
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  Speaker 1: making content and me talking NBA.
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  Speaker 2: That's where the light flip. The light flipped on to like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I've really got to know my stuff, so let
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  Speaker 1: me study what these advanced stats are, let me study
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  Speaker 1: what these contracts are, and so on. And then we
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  Speaker 1: have the exact opposite, the exact opposite side of the
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  Speaker 1: spectrum where we have a team and this is not
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  Speaker 1: calling out all Warriors fans whatsoever, but we have a
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  Speaker 1: team with one of the greatest players in the history
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  Speaker 1: of ball and his name is ward O Stephan Curry Junior.
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  Speaker 1: And he is still proven to us that he is
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  Speaker 1: good enough to be a one eight on a championship
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  Speaker 1: level team. His team is not good. They're actually been
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  Speaker 1: really bad over the last couple of months. After an
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  Speaker 1: amazing start, they've been really bad. And there are people
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  Speaker 1: in my mentions without even me minching in the Warriors,
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  Speaker 1: without even me minching zach Lavine attached to them saying
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  Speaker 1: that they would rather not trade for him because his
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  Speaker 1: contract is big in two years. Brother, Steph Curry is
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  Speaker 1: doing interviews and they're writing articles, and Steph Curry's practically
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  Speaker 1: on his knees begging his front office for some help.
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  Speaker 1: And there are fans like, Naw, we'd rather keep Pods
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  Speaker 1: because maybe Pods in two years.
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  Speaker 2: That is crazy. Do you want to see Steph Curry
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  Speaker 2: win or no?
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  Speaker 1: Some of y'all make me think no, because you prioritize
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  Speaker 1: the future rather than the now. Again, it might make
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  Speaker 1: more sense when your team doesn't have a great player,
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  Speaker 1: but your team has one of the greatest players and
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  Speaker 1: you're still thinking about the future.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy. And it's not just the fan base, that
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  Speaker 2: is the front office as well.
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  Speaker 1: That is the reason why Steph Curry is going out
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  Speaker 1: there and doing these interviews and asking for help, pleading
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  Speaker 1: for help because his front office is too afraid to
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  Speaker 1: lose a trade that might look bad at three years.
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  Speaker 2: What is that? Is that not crazy to anybody else?
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  Speaker 1: And again, I'm not saying zach Lavine is the answer.
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  Speaker 1: He is just he is just a name. That's prevalent
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  Speaker 1: right now, you feel what I'm saying. So so it's
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  Speaker 1: just it's been a it's been a lot.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's on my mind.
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  Speaker 1: And I do believe that looking at the game this
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  Speaker 1: way can be taken away from the actual on court stuff,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Where Again, I am a
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  Speaker 1: big proponent of advanced stats. I feel like you have
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  Speaker 1: to have a balance or two. I am more eye
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  Speaker 1: testing than advanced stats. But you've watched this, you may
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  Speaker 1: have listened to my podcast. I would definitely bring up
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  Speaker 1: advanced stats when necessary, but I only bring him up
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  Speaker 1: if the eye tests is supporting the advanced stat Right,
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  Speaker 1: there's a percentage in the NBA fandom that would much
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  Speaker 1: rather watch the game or follow the game through a spreadsheet.
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  Speaker 2: Which, again, do what you want to do.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not here to change it, but I do believe
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  Speaker 1: that it is take away from the greatness that is
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  Speaker 1: our sport. What a tweet during my recording, Leangelo Ball
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  Speaker 1: has signed a deal with death Chaman Universal. I come on, man,
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  Speaker 1: shout out to LiAngelo, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Him making moves.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, watching through a spreadsheet like caring too much
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  Speaker 1: about contracts in the future just might be detrimental, that's all.
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  Speaker 1: And again I'm gonna take some blame with me having
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  Speaker 1: a game and channel with over one million subscribers where
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  Speaker 1: we do that all the time, where I see a
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  Speaker 1: guy with a bad contract in the trade finder and
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  Speaker 1: I say absolutely no that. Like I've I understand that
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  Speaker 1: the fan base over there has grown up with that
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  Speaker 1: type of content. So maybe again I am been part
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  Speaker 1: of the problem. But I don't even know what the
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  Speaker 1: solution is to any of this, right, and maybe that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't need to be a solution. Maybe this is not
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  Speaker 1: even a real problem, But I just made it a
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  Speaker 1: problem for video, don't I don't really know? You know,
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  Speaker 1: this got me to the point of isn't this crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's got to the point of saying, I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure out I'll put this in a world or not,
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  Speaker 1: because everything that you say on the internet last forever.
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  Speaker 1: It's got me to the point where, like if February
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  Speaker 1: sixth came across and Zach Levine was still on my team,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even pissed about it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not pissed.
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  Speaker 1: He's been a complete, complete professional throughout all of this.
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  Speaker 1: He's been amazing on the court at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day. He's been a very very very fun watch
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  Speaker 1: for the past couple Whatever's nah, I don't know, Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Actually now I'm having conflicting views because I would much
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  Speaker 1: rather keep that pick than have Zach.
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  Speaker 2: Lavine on the team. That's the problem. Maybe it's not.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.