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Mark Belling Podcast #114: A Wisconsin NASCAR driver goes viral with her emotional meltdown during race. Mark uses this case to examine what is humiliating in today's world and what isn't. Also, Trump's grip on GOP voters is stronger than ever as Louisiana's anti-Trump Republican senator gets wiped out in a primary. And a West Allis bar that loses its liquor license after a federal drug investigation says it is the victim of racism · The Mark Belling Podcast

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Speaker 2: There's something I'm really interested in. It, broadly speaking, has
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Speaker 2: to do with what you can do that is so
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Speaker 2: humiliating that it'll follow you for the rest of your life,
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Speaker 2: in contrast with the things that used to be so
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Speaker 2: humiliating that you would never dare do them. That rolls
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Speaker 2: going to explain it, and I'm going to use as
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Speaker 2: an example the Natalie Decker melt out. Some of you
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Speaker 2: about the Natalie Decker Melton. Perhaps not many of you
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Speaker 2: do as well. It's a nuanced story, but it's possible
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Speaker 2: that this is going to follow her for the rest
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Speaker 2: of her life and wreck her credibility in her chosen field,
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Speaker 2: or maybe not. We're going to use that as our
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Speaker 2: dot com. Natalie Decker is an automobile racer from Wisconsin.
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Speaker 2: Her family ran I think maybe still does the World
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Speaker 2: Championship Snowmobile Derby Inego River, which is a big thing.
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Speaker 2: She got into automobile racing and she's made it to NASCAR.
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Speaker 2: She drives primarily in the Truck Series. NASCAR has three levels.
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Speaker 2: The first one is the Cup Series that's the top.
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Speaker 2: Then there's they change the names every so often depending
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Speaker 2: on who the sponsor is. There's the O'Reilly Series that's
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Speaker 2: the number two, and then there's the Truck Series, which
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Speaker 2: is series number three. And Natalie Decker's career has been
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Speaker 2: good enough that she's gotten off and on a ride,
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Speaker 2: sometimes in the middle Series, but more often than not
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Speaker 2: in the Truck Series. Her problem is is that by
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Speaker 2: and large she races for underfunded teams. Now I need
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Speaker 2: to give you all this background so you can understand
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Speaker 2: the context of what happened to her. There are at
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Speaker 2: all three levels of NASCAR teams that come up with
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Speaker 2: a business model that allows them to make enough money
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Speaker 2: without seriously attempting to win. You have to fill the
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Speaker 2: field of these races. There aren't just ten or fifteen
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Speaker 2: cars that are in there. There's going to be about
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Speaker 2: ten or fifteen at the back of the packs that
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Speaker 2: really have no chance of winning, but their vehicles are
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Speaker 2: on TV, they get sponsorship and so on. And those
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Speaker 2: teams tend not to have a lot of money, and
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Speaker 2: therefore they don't have the same degree of equipment and
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Speaker 2: expertise as the top teams, and it's very, very difficult
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Speaker 2: for the drivers because in some cases they're just turning
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Speaker 2: laps trying to do his best you can, But maybe
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Speaker 2: his best you can is to finish twenty second rather
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Speaker 2: than twenty ninth. If that well. Natalie Decker's in one
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Speaker 2: of those teams, and over the weekend in the truck
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Speaker 2: race in Dover, Delaware, she had a meltdown. It's gone viral,
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Speaker 2: but not viral enough to attract the attention of my
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Speaker 2: co producers of the podcast. Today. She was having a
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Speaker 2: terrible race. She's running around in the back of the pack,
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Speaker 2: and it was so bad that NASCAR black flagged her
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Speaker 2: for going too slow. I mean, you can't go that
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Speaker 2: slow because it's a danger to other drivers. Plus it
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Speaker 2: makes a mockery of the whole thing. So they essentially
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Speaker 2: wanted to her to go into the pits and take
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Speaker 2: a penalty for going too slow and tell the team
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Speaker 2: you better get this car. Truck obviously sped up. So
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Speaker 2: she's on the communication with her pit crew and the
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Speaker 2: team owner was on there as well, and she fell apart.
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Speaker 2: They told her that she needed to come into the
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Speaker 2: pits for a stop and go penalty for one of
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Speaker 2: the things that she had done wrong, and she emotionally
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Speaker 2: fell apart. Now here's the thing. All of these conversations
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Speaker 2: that occur in big time races people can listen to.
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Speaker 2: There's scanners and other technology. The television networks tap into
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Speaker 2: all of them, and you'll often hear a driver talking
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Speaker 2: back and forth. So anytime something happens that's a note
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Speaker 2: between a driver and the pit crew, it's going to
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Speaker 2: be shared. So when the crew chief tells her that
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Speaker 2: she needs to come in or maybe even call it
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Speaker 2: a day, that's when she melts down. She says, I
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Speaker 2: don't want to do this anymore. She then and I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to play the audio here because it's filled
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Speaker 2: with f bombs, so you can find it all over
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Speaker 2: the internet. I'm going to quote a portion of it.
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Speaker 2: Though she said she doesn't want to drive in this
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Speaker 2: bleeping series anymore. She's i think, fed up and frustrated
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Speaker 2: with how terrible she's been doing. She's been the subject
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Speaker 2: of derision from fans for some time. First of all,
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Speaker 2: she's a woman, which makes her target. And secondly, she's
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Speaker 2: been non competitive for the longest time, and a lot
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Speaker 2: of people don't think that she has any business in
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Speaker 2: that car. Now, sometimes drivers get rides because they're able
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Speaker 2: to bring sponsorships with them, and a female driver may
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Speaker 2: have a better chance to bring in sponsorships than somebody else. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: There's been some hostility toward her anyway, so she's in
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Speaker 2: this meltdown in which you can you know, she's a woman,
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Speaker 2: and she must have going slow enough that this transmission
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Speaker 2: is really clear. You can make out everything that both
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Speaker 2: sides are saying off on these pit two driver communications
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Speaker 2: that are going on. It's muffled with the roar of
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Speaker 2: the engines and so, but you can hear this very
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Speaker 2: very clearly. I'm going to quote a portion of it.
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Speaker 2: You guys, I'm trying my best to hold my bleep together,
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Speaker 2: but I don't want to keep doing this. The team
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Speaker 2: told her that if you don't want to keep driving, Natalie,
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Speaker 2: just come on in. And again, this is about two
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Speaker 2: thirds of the way through the race. It was, I
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Speaker 2: believe on lap eighty one. The Truck Series races don't
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Speaker 2: have as many laps as the longer ones. And then
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Speaker 2: continuing on the pick communication to the crew chief and
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Speaker 2: the team owner, Josh Reim gets in this too. There's
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Speaker 2: just so many bleepy things that I could say right now,
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Speaker 2: and I'm just trying to keep it together about the
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Speaker 2: bleeping direction of this series. So that's when the team
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Speaker 2: owner got on there and said maybe you should just
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Speaker 2: bring it in. And the team owner is now treating
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Speaker 2: her like a child, saying, just you know, hold it together,
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Speaker 2: killing her a breathe door, knows all that stuff, and
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Speaker 2: then saying, well, you have a glass of water waiting
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Speaker 2: for you when you get in. Admittedly, it is hard
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Speaker 2: for me to imagine this discussion going on with back
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Speaker 2: in the day Dale Earnhardt Senior or Richard Petty. Nonetheless,
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Speaker 2: it was what it was. She then said I'll feel
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Speaker 2: like a bleeping failure. Obviously it's the f bomb. If
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Speaker 2: she did that and then said she's going to be
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Speaker 2: destroyed on social media for this, well perhaps it should
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Speaker 2: have dawned on her. She's going to be destroyed on
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Speaker 2: social media. She shouldn't be saying any of these things.
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Speaker 2: If she's gonna say any of it, wait until you
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Speaker 2: get back into the pits and then unload on the
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Speaker 2: crew chief and the team owner when nobody's able to hear.
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Speaker 2: Her final finish in the race was thirty fourth. She
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Speaker 2: did indeed come in and The audio has gone viral
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Speaker 2: over the last couple of days, at least on the
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Speaker 2: level that a low level NASCAR truck series is drivers
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Speaker 2: comments could go viral. If you google Natalie Decker's name,
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Speaker 2: well all you gave just it page after page after
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Speaker 2: page of stories like this, because you know there's all
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Speaker 2: these like fake news sites, and what's all the regular
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Speaker 2: media report on it. Then you've got the Times of
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Speaker 2: India and the Hindustan Times and all these other fake things.
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Speaker 2: So it just goes on for page after page after
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Speaker 2: page after page after page. What not many of the
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Speaker 2: media reported, but some the New York posted is she
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Speaker 2: actually after the race went on social media and if
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Speaker 2: not defended herself, explained herself. She posted this on her
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Speaker 2: Facebook page and she explains why she fell apart, and
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Speaker 2: apparently it was just it was the perfect form of
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Speaker 2: events in that race, with the backdrop of she's not
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Speaker 2: been competitive in any of the races that she's been
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Speaker 2: and again it's a part time team. They're not in
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Speaker 2: every race. I got a penalty at the drop of
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Speaker 2: the green flag. I pulled out of line before the
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Speaker 2: finish lide. What does that mean? When they start the race,
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Speaker 2: you get to the green flag, you have to stay
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Speaker 2: in your exact position until you get to the start
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Speaker 2: finish line. So the green flag starts and everybody's speeding up,
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Speaker 2: but you can't do any passing until your crosses the
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Speaker 2: green flag. Now, if you're way on the back porch
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Speaker 2: and her, that means the cars ahead of her are
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Speaker 2: already signing a race because they've passed, but you're supposed
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Speaker 2: to wait. So she points out, she didn't do that.
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Speaker 2: I pulled out of line before the finish line when
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Speaker 2: serving the penalty. I got another one for speeding on
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Speaker 2: Pitt Road. For those of you who don't know, there's
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Speaker 2: actually a speed limit on the road that drows into
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Speaker 2: the pits. You can't drive too fast, and she got
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Speaker 2: a penalty for that. So all right, now she's got
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Speaker 2: her first penalty and she comes into the pit and
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Speaker 2: the penalty is to make a drive to the pants,
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Speaker 2: which costs you a lap. So when she's doing that,
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Speaker 2: she's now speeding, So now she's a second lap. So
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Speaker 2: in addition to having a non competitive truck, she's already
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Speaker 2: spotted the field two laughs, because she's managed to rack
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Speaker 2: up two penalties before the other drivers have even completed
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Speaker 2: a laugh. Then she goes on. This is her statement
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Speaker 2: that she put out after the race. I am not
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Speaker 2: going to lie. I am really disappointed in myself because
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Speaker 2: after all those penalties, mentally, after all those penalties, mentally,
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Speaker 2: I never recovered. I know there is going to be
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Speaker 2: a lot of hate around my last two weekends race,
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Speaker 2: and nothing you can say is worse than how hard
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Speaker 2: I am on myself right now. But I am going
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Speaker 2: to push myself to get through this and control what
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Speaker 2: I can control moving forward and show up to my
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Speaker 2: next race with a smile on my face and fire
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Speaker 2: in me to keep doing what I love. So despite her,
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Speaker 2: I want to walk away from this, all the stuff
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Speaker 2: that she said of the squawk box during the race,
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Speaker 2: she said, I intend to show up for the next race.
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Speaker 2: I keep going away at this. There's only certain things
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Speaker 2: I can control. I wonder if the team owner is
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Speaker 2: going to fire her and just get rid of her.
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Speaker 2: There's sponsorship considerations and all of that. But you can
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Speaker 2: see what happened here. Now. This is my brief story
12:15
Speaker 2: to set up the larger point. The thing about social
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Speaker 2: media and the thing about search engine is if you're
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Speaker 2: not known for much, when you do something that gets
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Speaker 2: a zillion stories every time somebody searches her name for
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Speaker 2: the next forty years. This is going to show up,
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Speaker 2: my baggage, my good stuff, all the other stuff shows up.
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Speaker 2: But fortunately I've been in the news so many times
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Speaker 2: that there isn't any one particular. So there's a statement
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Speaker 2: comment that I made twenty years ago, it still shows
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Speaker 2: up in there. Imagine if this was the only thing
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Speaker 2: that I had ever been known for in my life.
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Speaker 2: So now she's being mocked and ridiculed for a meltdown.
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Speaker 2: Was it the worst meltdown in the world. Well, I'll
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Speaker 2: admit I've never heard a driver talk like this, and
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Speaker 2: probably the fact that she's a woman was one of
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Speaker 2: the things that that, you know, makes it sound bad.
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Speaker 2: She's got a female voice, and you know what dry.
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Speaker 2: I've heard drive mail drivers on there bitching all the
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Speaker 2: time and cursing all the time and say what car sucks,
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Speaker 2: We got to do a better job, and so on.
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Speaker 2: But she wasn't quite saying my car sucks. She's saying
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Speaker 2: she doesn't want to do this anymore. And it sounded
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Speaker 2: like whiny and emotional. Let me compare this to another
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Speaker 2: type of thing that follows people around and wrecks their lives.
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Speaker 2: There are now for the police departments that have body
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Speaker 2: cameras on the officers, and not all do. I think
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Speaker 2: they all should, but many, including a lot here in
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Speaker 2: southeastern Wisconsin, don't. But when they do, that means that
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Speaker 2: every interaction that a police officer has is captured, and
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Speaker 2: those are obviously public records, so somebody can requests those records.
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Speaker 2: And what's been happening is all sorts of encounters that
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Speaker 2: police have with individuals are being posted on YouTube. The
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Speaker 2: other big one is police encounters with people in the airports,
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Speaker 2: anywhere that a cop is involved with somebody who's having
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Speaker 2: a meltdown. Somebody makes an open records request for the video,
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Speaker 2: plasters it up a YouTube, and some of these people
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Speaker 2: who act like lunatics people now see this. And I'm
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Speaker 2: not talking career criminals of thirty seven things on their record,
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Speaker 2: What do they care about their reputations. I'm talking about
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Speaker 2: people who are otherwise normal. There was an assistant attorney
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Speaker 2: general in Delaware who made a fool of herself when
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Speaker 2: she had an encounter with police outside a bar in
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Speaker 2: a certain man. I'm in Philadelphia, wherever it was she's
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Speaker 2: throwing her weight around on'm of this sad and the
14:51
Speaker 2: other thing she get fired. There are numerous other people,
14:56
Speaker 2: you know, they get pulled over for drunk driving, get
14:58
Speaker 2: pulled over for a steating tickeet, you pulled up for
15:00
Speaker 2: drunk driving. That means they're showing you perform the drunk
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Speaker 2: tests and all of that. And many people act just
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Speaker 2: terribly and stupidly. And the next thing you know, these
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Speaker 2: videos have millions of views and the only thing you're
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Speaker 2: known for in your life is this. But now here's
15:18
Speaker 2: the flip side of that. So indeed, while we now
15:21
Speaker 2: live in a world in which not only is everything
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Speaker 2: on camera or audio, everything now can be dispensed. You know,
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Speaker 2: in the past, let's imagine they had body cams thirty
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Speaker 2: years ago and some guy says something stupid to a cop.
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Speaker 2: Nobody ever would have found out about it because where
15:38
Speaker 2: you're gonna post it there wasn't a YouTube then, there
15:40
Speaker 2: was barely an internet. Now, not only are these things
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Speaker 2: all being captured, they can be mass distributed, not just
15:48
Speaker 2: by the media, by anybody. These YouTube channels are just
15:52
Speaker 2: run by anybody. There are people entrepreneurs who create these channels,
15:56
Speaker 2: trying to make a buck, and all they do is
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Speaker 2: troll around from police videos. In some cases they just
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Speaker 2: steal a video that somebody else on the internet had
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Speaker 2: already posted. But then there's this. One of the things
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Speaker 2: that I used to say on my old talk show
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Speaker 2: is there's no shame anymore. You can't shame anyone that
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Speaker 2: all sorts of things that in the past people never
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Speaker 2: would have done because of the humiliation. They're not bothered
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Speaker 2: by at all sores. Whereas when I say here with
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Speaker 2: regard to Natalie Decker, she's trashed her reputation, and I
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Speaker 2: mean I feel for she's from Wisconsin. I heard that
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Speaker 2: she's a decent enough driver on the local circuit. She's
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Speaker 2: just down there with equipment that's not quite good enough
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Speaker 2: to be able to be competitive. Look at the number
16:50
Speaker 2: of leftist activists who've behaved like deranged lunatics, like jackals,
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Speaker 2: crazed people captured on video, and they walk right through
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Speaker 2: it as though nothing has happened. Look at these people
17:11
Speaker 2: that are running around harassing I saw agents as they're
17:16
Speaker 2: doing their jobs. Many of them are captured on video
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Speaker 2: doing it, behaving like absolute lunatics. But their lunatic behavior
17:24
Speaker 2: doesn't touch them at all. I go back to the
17:29
Speaker 2: police protests that occurred in our area, in particularly those
17:32
Speaker 2: that happened in Wawatosa. There were videos captured of people
17:36
Speaker 2: and you could see who their faces were. Getting in
17:39
Speaker 2: the faces like fifty people crowding around Wahwahtosa police officers
17:43
Speaker 2: calling them every name in the book. There were people
17:46
Speaker 2: that were willing to do that. People saw that that's
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Speaker 2: who was doing it, but nobody's made any real attempt
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Speaker 2: to identify them, and the consequence for that behavior is
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Speaker 2: almost zero. Look at the number of people. This is
18:02
Speaker 2: on a lesser level, but I think it serves to
18:04
Speaker 2: make the point. You turn a camera in any public place.
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Speaker 2: One of the examples news reporters doing a stand up
18:16
Speaker 2: in front of something all the time. Now you'll see
18:18
Speaker 2: somebody walk behind the reporter and jump around like an idiot.
18:23
Speaker 2: In some cases these what have gone onto YouTube, they'll
18:26
Speaker 2: moon the reporter or stuff like that, or far more common,
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Speaker 2: turn the camera on the crowd in a sporting event.
18:33
Speaker 2: There's been cameras turn on crowds and sporting events forever.
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Speaker 2: You watch any of the sporting events from the sixties
18:39
Speaker 2: seventies in the eighties, they'll show crowd shots and maybe
18:41
Speaker 2: the people didn't know they were on camera, but they
18:43
Speaker 2: just sit there. They're not doing anything. Now, people will
18:47
Speaker 2: knock one another over to act as crazy as they
18:50
Speaker 2: possibly can if they're on camera. I admit I don't
18:54
Speaker 2: get that. I don't get why you have to try
18:58
Speaker 2: to put your face in the camera and scream it
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Speaker 2: the top of your legs. If somebody puts a camera
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Speaker 2: on me, I'm gonna sit there and stare straight ahead.
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Speaker 2: In part I don't need the whole world making fun
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Speaker 2: of me. But for the people that are behaving as
19:09
Speaker 2: they're not concerned that anyone's gonna make fun of them,
19:11
Speaker 2: and no one really ever does. So it begs the
19:15
Speaker 2: question that don't have the answer to what public conduct
19:20
Speaker 2: now actually does humiliate a person as opposed to the
19:26
Speaker 2: stuff that you thought would be humiliating that doesn't cause
19:32
Speaker 2: any negative attention or sanction or social stigma at all.
19:36
Speaker 2: Let's turn our attention to politics. This is like a
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Speaker 2: two or three prime topic. Let's start in Louisiana Bill
19:44
Speaker 2: Cassidy lost. I mean talking about humiliating. This is for
19:49
Speaker 2: our politician. Humiliating Cassidy is a two term trying to
19:53
Speaker 2: be a three term United States Senator from Louisiana. Louisiana
19:57
Speaker 2: is a Republican state. It's not impossible for a Democrat
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Speaker 2: to win, but unlikely. So he's in the Republican primary
20:05
Speaker 2: running for reelection. He had two opponents, opponents taking on
20:09
Speaker 2: the incumbent in his own party. Cassidy finished dead last.
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Speaker 2: Louisiana has a runoff rule. Wisconsin does not have a
20:18
Speaker 2: runoff rule. Louisiana does. In a primary or a general election,
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Speaker 2: if the winner doesn't get fifty percent of the vote,
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Speaker 2: they have to have another election. I'm killing you. With
20:28
Speaker 2: the lazy voters we have in Wisconsin, this would be
20:30
Speaker 2: deadly because it means you have to have a primary
20:33
Speaker 2: after the primary, and after the primary, after the primary,
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Speaker 2: there's still the general election because nobody got fifty percent
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Speaker 2: of the vote. What happens under Louisiana's law is the
20:41
Speaker 2: top two finishers advanced to another vote. But Cassidy did
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Speaker 2: so badly he didn't even advance to the top two.
20:50
Speaker 2: Why did Cassidy get humiliated? Two words? Donald Trump. Trump
20:56
Speaker 2: set out to defeat Cassie. Why you remember the twenty
21:04
Speaker 2: twenty one protests at the Capitol and the wanning days
21:09
Speaker 2: of the Trump administration, the January sixth protests that the
21:13
Speaker 2: left freaked out and melted down over. You may recall
21:17
Speaker 2: that they impeached Donald Trump after that and held it
21:20
Speaker 2: and he had then a trial in the United States Senate.
21:25
Speaker 2: They didn't get the two thirds necessary to remove Trump
21:28
Speaker 2: from office, which would have been an atrocious miscarriage of
21:33
Speaker 2: justice and also meaningless because Trump only had a few
21:35
Speaker 2: days left in his administration. Anyway, January twentieth is when
21:39
Speaker 2: Biden was sworn in. Bill Cassidy was one of the
21:43
Speaker 2: senators Republican who voted to remove Trump. He voted to
21:48
Speaker 2: convict Trump and the impeachment. We now know that the
21:53
Speaker 2: whole targeting of Trump over January sixth was preposterous. Everything
21:59
Speaker 2: about January six was an overreaction, but in particular the
22:03
Speaker 2: allegation that Trump did anything here that was inappropriate at all.
22:08
Speaker 2: In fact, the parts of the video that the media
22:14
Speaker 2: didn't show but exist. Trump told the protesters there to
22:19
Speaker 2: make sure to behave themselves. Nonetheless, Cassidy used this as
22:23
Speaker 2: an excuse to kick Trump when he was down and
22:25
Speaker 2: face it. Let's imagine your Cassidy put yourself in the
22:28
Speaker 2: other guy's shoes. I always tell you to do this.
22:30
Speaker 2: It's January of twenty twenty one. You're an establishment Republican.
22:34
Speaker 2: You can't stand Trump, which he can't. Trump's on the
22:38
Speaker 2: way out. He lost to Biden. He's yesterday's news. He
22:42
Speaker 2: has no power anymore. He's only going to be in
22:44
Speaker 2: office for a few more days. Why not kick him
22:48
Speaker 2: in the teeth. I'll impress the rest of the establishment.
22:51
Speaker 2: I'll impress the media. Yes, I'm a Republican, right, I
22:54
Speaker 2: don't cott into those behavior of this Trump. Trump was
22:57
Speaker 2: an embarrassment. We need to turn the Page's Cassidy's thinking,
23:01
Speaker 2: what could he ever do to me? Again? Little did
23:04
Speaker 2: Bill Cassidy ever dream that. Just three and a half
23:08
Speaker 2: years later, here's Trump running for president again. Eddie weds.
23:14
Speaker 2: A lot of people think that Trump shouldn't be settling scores,
23:18
Speaker 2: without regard to your opinion on that Trump is settling scores.
23:24
Speaker 2: One of the ways that you stop people from crossing
23:26
Speaker 2: you is you make it clear that if you do
23:28
Speaker 2: cross him, you're gonna pay for it. So here's Trump
23:30
Speaker 2: back in office, and lo and behold, twenty twenty six,
23:36
Speaker 2: a year and a half after Trump is in Old
23:38
Speaker 2: Bill Cassidy's running for reelection down there in Louisiana, and
23:42
Speaker 2: Trump makes it clear he wants Cassidy to lose, so
23:45
Speaker 2: two challengers won run against him. Trump endorses one of them.
23:50
Speaker 2: Both of the challengers run ahead of Cassidy, so Cassidy
23:55
Speaker 2: is now a lame doc he serves out his term.
23:58
Speaker 2: It certainly means that that one vote in the United
24:01
Speaker 2: States said it has gone because you can't count on
24:02
Speaker 2: Cassidy to do anything to support Trump for the remainder
24:05
Speaker 2: of the year. But Trump believes that the whomever wins
24:08
Speaker 2: the Republican runoff will win the general election of the fall,
24:11
Speaker 2: and more importantly, he got rid of Cassidy. Now, the
24:14
Speaker 2: political importance of this is that while people talk about
24:19
Speaker 2: Trump's diminishing influence and he's declining pole standings, there is
24:24
Speaker 2: no indication that Trump's influence with Republican voters is waning
24:31
Speaker 2: at all. This thing of Trump endorsements continues to hold up. Now,
24:37
Speaker 2: we're going to have an example of this here in
24:38
Speaker 2: Wisconsin in our primary in August. There's a hotly contested
24:44
Speaker 2: Republican congressional primary in northern Wisconsin. It's the district that
24:49
Speaker 2: Tom Tiffany currently represents. Tiffany is not running for reelection,
24:54
Speaker 2: He's running for governor. So there's a wide open Republican race.
24:57
Speaker 2: Several candidates are running. Several the good candidates are running
25:01
Speaker 2: in the Republican primary. Won't name well, name a few.
25:05
Speaker 2: Jesse Eban is running, Kevin Hermann is running, a couple
25:08
Speaker 2: of others, and the son in law of Sean and
25:14
Speaker 2: Rachel Campos Duffy Alonso is running. Trump has endorsed him.
25:23
Speaker 2: A lot of people in that district resent Trump and
25:29
Speaker 2: the Duffies trying to hand pick and he's a young
25:31
Speaker 2: guy's in his twenties, try to hand pick their congressman
25:35
Speaker 2: for them. And as I say, the other candidates, all
25:40
Speaker 2: of the Republicans running, I'm not offering any endorsement of
25:43
Speaker 2: my own in this race, at least not at this point,
25:45
Speaker 2: but they all seem to me to be excellent and
25:48
Speaker 2: qualified candidates, including Alonzo. In almost all these elections that
25:54
Speaker 2: have occurred this year, when Trump is endorsing someone in
25:57
Speaker 2: a Republican primary, they're winning. This will be a testament
26:02
Speaker 2: whether or not Trump can bring him across the finish line.
26:04
Speaker 2: Here in and raced that. You know, the last test
26:08
Speaker 2: of this that we had in Wisconsin. It's a few
26:11
Speaker 2: years ago the congressional district in northeastern Wisconsin, Green Bay
26:16
Speaker 2: and the region. There you had three very very good
26:23
Speaker 2: Republican candidates, including two who are members of the state legislature,
26:27
Speaker 2: highly qualified Roger rothat Onbrey Jacques. Trump endorsed the other guy,
26:34
Speaker 2: who is now a congress from the state of Wisconsin.
26:37
Speaker 2: So the Trump endorsement, I think still holds powerful sway
26:40
Speaker 2: among Republican voters. So this statement, again, Trump may be
26:44
Speaker 2: losing whatever he had of the left, which was never
26:48
Speaker 2: in much and some of the middle, but he's not
26:51
Speaker 2: losing much of the Republican voter base, and his endorsement
26:55
Speaker 2: is still powerful. Bringing me to the Republican state convention
26:58
Speaker 2: over the weekend, there has been hostility within the state
27:05
Speaker 2: Republican party for some time. There's two types of hostilities.
27:09
Speaker 2: The first is whenever there's a statewide race anymore, the
27:13
Speaker 2: Republicans have a primary that gets very very divisive. Whether
27:18
Speaker 2: it's been a United States Senate race or the race
27:20
Speaker 2: for governor, there have been these divisive primaries. The most
27:24
Speaker 2: obvious example, let's just go back to the last governor's race.
27:27
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, Rebecca Clayfish and Kim Michaels ran
27:30
Speaker 2: against one another for the Republican nomination for governor. It
27:33
Speaker 2: got very, very bitter after Michael's won. Clayfish did next
27:39
Speaker 2: to nothing to back Michaels, and many of her supporters,
27:44
Speaker 2: especially in the Madison slash Walker wing of the party,
27:49
Speaker 2: sat in their hands. Michaels lost I think by about
27:54
Speaker 2: three points to Tony Evers. Had the Republicans been fully
27:59
Speaker 2: united after after that election, I think Tim Michaels would
28:01
Speaker 2: have won, but they weren't. This is not an uncommon occurrence.
28:12
Speaker 2: The year that Tommy Thompson won the nomination for the
28:15
Speaker 2: United States Senate and ran against Tammy Baldwin, there was
28:19
Speaker 2: a divisive Republican primary. A lot of the people who
28:22
Speaker 2: thought that Tommy's time had passed and were upset that
28:24
Speaker 2: he won the primary, didn't back He ended up underfunded
28:27
Speaker 2: in the general election. This has been a problem with
28:29
Speaker 2: Wisconsin Republicans that they can't put these primaries behind them. Okay,
28:34
Speaker 2: this one lost that Kennedy may not like it, but
28:36
Speaker 2: their supporters need to get over it now. I want
28:40
Speaker 2: to make it very clear. Remember what Nixon used to say.
28:44
Speaker 2: I want to make myself perfectly clear. I don't think
28:48
Speaker 2: I've had to do a Nixon impersonation in thirty years.
28:52
Speaker 2: Let me be very clear. I think if Clayfish had
28:56
Speaker 2: beaten Michaels, the Michael's supporters would have been just as
29:00
Speaker 2: petulant as the Clayfish was. And I think Clayfish would
29:03
Speaker 2: have had as hard a time uniting the party behind
29:05
Speaker 2: them because a lot of the Michaels people who are
29:07
Speaker 2: hacked off that the Scott Walker wing of the party
29:09
Speaker 2: had so much power, they would have sat in their hands.
29:15
Speaker 2: This has been a devastating blow to conservatism in Wisconsin
29:20
Speaker 2: that some people within the Republican Party can't get their
29:25
Speaker 2: lust for power that if their candidate, their guy, or
29:28
Speaker 2: their woman doesn't win, they act like little children who
29:32
Speaker 2: had their rattles taken away from them. The other division
29:36
Speaker 2: in the State Republican Party is who controls the apparatus
29:39
Speaker 2: of the party itself. I oh, take it clear. I
29:42
Speaker 2: have been very critical of that apparatus. The State Republican
29:47
Speaker 2: Party is based in offices in Madison. The governing board
29:52
Speaker 2: of the State Republican party consists of a lot of insiders.
29:56
Speaker 2: There are way too many lobbyists that are on that board.
30:03
Speaker 2: Because it's based in Madison, the staff is sitting there
30:06
Speaker 2: on Madison. You end up with people that are out
30:09
Speaker 2: of touch. There are too many members of the state
30:13
Speaker 2: legislature who are very, very self serving people, and obviously
30:16
Speaker 2: every politician self serving. They're focus mostly out of winning
30:18
Speaker 2: their own races. Who have co opted that organization. They've
30:24
Speaker 2: turned off a lot of people and they can't raise
30:26
Speaker 2: any money. Utterly in effectual ism, but a problem for
30:30
Speaker 2: every and I've made that clear. But they are who
30:34
Speaker 2: they are and there have not been successful attempts to
30:42
Speaker 2: displace them. The people who want them displaced have to
30:47
Speaker 2: understand the control of the party shouldn't have anything to
30:50
Speaker 2: do with getting Republican candidates elected. Now there's been another
30:55
Speaker 2: attempt to throw out the current head of the party,
30:58
Speaker 2: Brian Shimming. Bunch of people including the Republican parties of
31:02
Speaker 2: Waukesha on Milwaukee County and several from northeast in Wisconsin.
31:06
Speaker 2: I won't say cool, but they launched an effort a
31:09
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago to get Shimming removed his party chair.
31:12
Speaker 2: The effort went nowhere, and they backed out. The Republicans
31:16
Speaker 2: held their convention over the weekend. There's still animosity here.
31:20
Speaker 2: The insiders are hacked off that this attempt even started,
31:23
Speaker 2: and the outsiders are upset that it's still business as
31:27
Speaker 2: usual and the same people who've been losing all these
31:29
Speaker 2: elections are in charge. Regardless of that, you now need
31:35
Speaker 2: to put it behind you. The person who was the
31:37
Speaker 2: voice of reason over the weekend is Senator Ron Johnson.
31:40
Speaker 2: Ron's not on the ballot this time. He is on
31:42
Speaker 2: the ballot in twenty twenty eight should he choose to
31:44
Speaker 2: run for reelection then, And he got up there and
31:47
Speaker 2: essentially told all sides to get their acts together and
31:51
Speaker 2: to put this petty bickering behind them. Quote, if we're
32:00
Speaker 2: going to win, we need to unify. We have no
32:05
Speaker 2: room for division. And Johnson pointed out what's at stake
32:09
Speaker 2: here at Wisconsin. The Democratic Party in Wisconsin has been
32:12
Speaker 2: taken over by radicals. Understand who their front runner for
32:15
Speaker 2: governor is. Francesca Hang is a Marxist. She proudly declares
32:21
Speaker 2: that she's a socialist. If anything, she's to the left
32:25
Speaker 2: of Mondani. Now she might not win the primary there
32:30
Speaker 2: are some Democratic insiders that are freaked that their most
32:34
Speaker 2: fire left candidates are the ones that seem to be
32:36
Speaker 2: leading in the polls. The second choice right now appears
32:39
Speaker 2: to be Mendela Barnes, who's toxic. He managed to lose
32:42
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two to Ron Johnson in a year
32:44
Speaker 2: in which the Democrats won everything else. So Ron Johnson
32:49
Speaker 2: trying to make it clear, Look, we're going to be
32:52
Speaker 2: running probably against the Marxist for governor. We need to
32:57
Speaker 2: be more concerned about that than these petty bis pickering
33:00
Speaker 2: things that we have going on here about this group
33:03
Speaker 2: is upset that the wrong person is the chairman of
33:05
Speaker 2: the party and this guy didn't get to be named
33:07
Speaker 2: to the head of this committee. Johnson also pointed out
33:12
Speaker 2: that the big crisis for Wisconsin Republicans is our side
33:16
Speaker 2: does not turn out its voters as well as the Democrats.
33:20
Speaker 2: There's one Republican who has been able in this state
33:23
Speaker 2: to turn out voters. By the matt We'll take it
33:25
Speaker 2: back two. If you go back sixteen years, there's two.
33:30
Speaker 2: If you go back eight to ten years, there's one,
33:35
Speaker 2: Donald Trump and Scott Walker. When Scott Walker ran in
33:39
Speaker 2: his elections and in particular, they when they tried to
33:41
Speaker 2: recall him from out of office, the Republican turnout was massive.
33:46
Speaker 2: Every last live breathing body that our side had got
33:50
Speaker 2: out to vote. And when Trump is on the ballot,
33:55
Speaker 2: Republican voters turn out and mass for him. Since nineteen
34:00
Speaker 2: eighty four, only one person has ever carried Wisconsin in
34:04
Speaker 2: a presidential election Republican rather, only one. Let me state
34:08
Speaker 2: that better. Since nineteen eighty four. That was the one
34:10
Speaker 2: Reagan won. But after that, every Republican loss was consent
34:15
Speaker 2: in the presidential election, with the exception of one person,
34:18
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, who carried was consin twice sixteen and twenty four.
34:24
Speaker 2: He didn't in twenty But all the other ones, the
34:28
Speaker 2: Bushes all three times, the first Bush and w Bush twice,
34:33
Speaker 2: they didn't carry Wisconsin. Dol didn't carry Wisconsin on no
34:38
Speaker 2: Trump did. Now, in both instances that Trump carried the state,
34:43
Speaker 2: the Democratic candidate was toxic and united Republican voters as
34:47
Speaker 2: much as Trump did Hillary in sixteen and Kamala in
34:52
Speaker 2: twenty four. But in the other elections we've had in
34:56
Speaker 2: this state, the turnout that the lefties get in the
34:59
Speaker 2: president they come close to replicating say, in the spring elections.
35:05
Speaker 2: The Wisconsin state Supreme Court races, which coincide with our
35:08
Speaker 2: local April races, indicate this. We can't get as many
35:14
Speaker 2: of our people to turn out in Supreme Court elections
35:16
Speaker 2: as the lefties get of theirs. And the concern now
35:20
Speaker 2: is that this will extend to twenty twenty six. There's
35:25
Speaker 2: a lot of reasons for it. I believe that when
35:28
Speaker 2: COVID came in and we changed the voting laws where
35:30
Speaker 2: you can have mail in voting and two weeks of
35:34
Speaker 2: in person absentee voting and so on, the Democrats mobilize
35:39
Speaker 2: this and tried to get a ballot in the hands
35:42
Speaker 2: of every last person and if necessary, mailed it for them.
35:46
Speaker 2: The Republicans have never picked up and been able to
35:49
Speaker 2: match that effort, in part because of the organizational infighting
35:54
Speaker 2: and in part because of incompetence. Now, I think a
35:59
Speaker 2: third component. It's kind of off the subject here, but
36:01
Speaker 2: I'm gonna mention it briefly. Republican messaging has been terrible.
36:06
Speaker 2: The kind of messaging Republican candidates need is the kind
36:08
Speaker 2: of messaging Spencer Pratt's offering in Los Angeles. He might
36:11
Speaker 2: not win, but he's communicating in the way that Republicans
36:14
Speaker 2: need to speak. He's running against Marxists and making it
36:18
Speaker 2: clear of the damage that they're doing, in his case
36:20
Speaker 2: to Los Angeles. If Republicans did that elsewhere, they would
36:23
Speaker 2: have far better success than some of these boring, terrible
36:27
Speaker 2: ads that are created by national consultants that they use.
36:31
Speaker 2: The same ad for Kennedy running for governor of Ohio
36:33
Speaker 2: gets the same ad as the governor from Kennedy running
36:35
Speaker 2: from governor of Minnesota gets the same one as the
36:37
Speaker 2: Kennedy running from governor of Oregon. They're generic, boring ads.
36:42
Speaker 2: But again, this comes from a party that lacks unity.
36:47
Speaker 2: Now as somebody who would like to see the entire
36:49
Speaker 2: Madison Republican establishments thrown out, and I've been begging for
36:52
Speaker 2: years to move the headquarters out of Madison so we
36:56
Speaker 2: don't get one single person who lives in Madison working
36:59
Speaker 2: for this operation. Madison is a city that is toxic
37:04
Speaker 2: to Republicatism, but we don't have it. That shouldn't be
37:10
Speaker 2: used as an excuse to not elect a great governor.
37:13
Speaker 2: Tom Tiffany and Ron Johnson tried to speak that message
37:18
Speaker 2: over the weekend. Let me get to this story. We
37:21
Speaker 2: covered it in some depth on the last podcast last week,
37:25
Speaker 2: but I want to give you an update here. There's
37:27
Speaker 2: also sorts of fallout from the failure of the compromise
37:32
Speaker 2: bill cut by Tony Evers and Republican legislative leaders that
37:36
Speaker 2: would have massively expanded school funding funding while at the
37:40
Speaker 2: same time provided significant tax relief. There would have been
37:44
Speaker 2: tax rebates of three hundred dollars per person. Evers would
37:48
Speaker 2: have agreed to sign no taxes on cash, tips and overtime,
37:54
Speaker 2: and there would have been property tax relief because the
37:57
Speaker 2: state surflus is so big. Both sides were to get
38:00
Speaker 2: what they desperately wanted. The deal ended up failing because
38:03
Speaker 2: every single Democrat in the state Senate voted against it,
38:07
Speaker 2: and three Republicans did as well. The Republican margin in
38:11
Speaker 2: the Senate is two. You can't have three falling off
38:15
Speaker 2: if no Democrats vote. Many Democrats are furious that none
38:20
Speaker 2: of their party voted for this deal. There's a story
38:23
Speaker 2: on js online today a number of Wisconsin school officials
38:27
Speaker 2: are enraged at the Democrats that they didn't take this deal.
38:32
Speaker 2: You know, the schools are always crying for money, and
38:34
Speaker 2: I don't for a minute. I think we should be
38:36
Speaker 2: pumping more money into the schools, but the schools think
38:41
Speaker 2: they need more money. They are begging the Democrats to
38:44
Speaker 2: go back to the table and try to put this
38:46
Speaker 2: deal back together. I wonder if it is dead. I
38:59
Speaker 2: don't know, will there be a change of heart by
39:03
Speaker 2: the Democrats that refuse to back this thing, and will
39:07
Speaker 2: they go back to Madison and say we want to
39:09
Speaker 2: do a do over. Clearly, what happened here is it
39:18
Speaker 2: chafed the Democratic members of the state Senate to provide
39:21
Speaker 2: any tax relief. They're saying, we should have put it
39:24
Speaker 2: all into the schools. Won't you know, let's keep the
39:26
Speaker 2: tax on overtime. We don't want to give out rebate checks,
39:31
Speaker 2: and we certainly don't want property tax relief. We want
39:33
Speaker 2: to spend it all. We're gonna win the governor's election,
39:35
Speaker 2: We're gonna win control of the legislature. So once the
39:38
Speaker 2: election is over, we'll just read we'll do the thing again,
39:41
Speaker 2: and we'll take all the money and no tax relief.
39:44
Speaker 2: The school leaders are concerned, however, that they might not
39:47
Speaker 2: get that opportunity. The Republicans might keep one house of
39:50
Speaker 2: the legislature, or you know, might win the governorship, and
39:53
Speaker 2: if the Republicans come in, they're probably gonna take all
39:56
Speaker 2: of it for tax relief and give nothing to the schools.
40:02
Speaker 2: So one wonders, if they're you know, and the governor's
40:06
Speaker 2: election is coming up, how will this play out in
40:10
Speaker 2: both parties. The Republican candidate for governor, Tom Tiffany, also
40:14
Speaker 2: opposed this thing. I'm telling you, I think that that
40:17
Speaker 2: was a risky decision for Tiffany, and I know why
40:20
Speaker 2: I did it, but I think it's very possible then
40:25
Speaker 2: in the general election, whoever the Democratic candidate is is
40:28
Speaker 2: gonna blame Tiffany for this thing not passing because three
40:31
Speaker 2: Republicans voted against it and Tiffany was against it. Tiffany,
40:35
Speaker 2: you're the guy that told people not to give people
40:37
Speaker 2: six hundred dollars a couple three hundred dollars a person.
40:39
Speaker 2: You're the guy that said don't take no taxes on tips.
40:43
Speaker 2: Even though it was mostly Democrats that killed the bill,
40:48
Speaker 2: it could politically be used against Tiffany out of this story.
40:55
Speaker 2: Something is at its lowest right now than at any
40:58
Speaker 2: time in the last three decades. Interceptions at the southern
41:05
Speaker 2: border crossings at the southern border are now at the
41:10
Speaker 2: lowest level in thirty years, and they measure this by
41:13
Speaker 2: interactions people that are stopped. Obviously, we can't count how
41:19
Speaker 2: many people have gotten in, because if they got in,
41:21
Speaker 2: we don't know about it. So what you go is
41:23
Speaker 2: the number of interactions that you have, and the numbers
41:26
Speaker 2: have shriveled. First of all, we're not letting anybody in
41:30
Speaker 2: that's not supposed to come in. And secondly, because we're
41:32
Speaker 2: not letting them in, they have stopped trying. By and large.
41:37
Speaker 2: Trump is getting almost no credit for this. And I'll
41:41
Speaker 2: be honest here, even from many people on the right now,
41:45
Speaker 2: I understand when someone fixes a problem when they're in government,
41:48
Speaker 2: we just move on to what the next problem is.
41:50
Speaker 2: And they're bitching about the war, they're bitching about gas
41:52
Speaker 2: prices and so on, without regard to that. Kamala Harrison
41:56
Speaker 2: Joe Biden told us this problem was impossible to fix. Remember,
42:00
Speaker 2: comml and Biden both kept saying, well, they have to
42:02
Speaker 2: pass this bill, they have to pass this bill. They
42:04
Speaker 2: didn't have to pass this bill. We didn't pass any bill.
42:06
Speaker 2: Prump just closed the border. The fact that it's closed
42:11
Speaker 2: means it could have been closed at any point in
42:13
Speaker 2: the last thirty years. The only thing has changed is
42:17
Speaker 2: that we have a president right now who has had
42:19
Speaker 2: the will to enforce the border. This argument, again is
42:25
Speaker 2: another I always point out that over time, conservatives always
42:29
Speaker 2: get proven correct. The lefties have claimed it was impossible
42:32
Speaker 2: to close the border. We needed more funding for this,
42:34
Speaker 2: and we needed to do that have been proven wrong.
42:37
Speaker 2: Prump said the border can be closed. The border's closed. Now.
42:47
Speaker 2: I want to turn my attention to a bar in
42:49
Speaker 2: West Allis. See, back when I did the old radio show,
42:54
Speaker 2: we had to run ninety seven million commercial breaks. We
42:57
Speaker 2: only have two on the podcast. That means seeing in
43:01
Speaker 2: the Alreadio show, I would have taken a break and
43:03
Speaker 2: then moved off to a topic completely unrelated. Here, we
43:06
Speaker 2: just do this with no transition at all. There's a
43:09
Speaker 2: bar in West Alice called this is a play on words.
43:13
Speaker 2: It's called black, but it's not spelled blac k. It's
43:18
Speaker 2: spelled b la que black bar and bytes. It's located
43:25
Speaker 2: in a semi residential neighborhood. If you go on West
43:29
Speaker 2: Alice down and right now, it's hard to go down
43:31
Speaker 2: to any of this because a lot of the exits
43:33
Speaker 2: are stopped because of the freeway reconstruction. Holey Road becomes
43:38
Speaker 2: sixtieth Street, and when you go south enough, you're just
43:41
Speaker 2: on sixtieth Street, which is there's a little bit of
43:44
Speaker 2: It's one of those areas in which there's commercial businesses
43:48
Speaker 2: on the same blocks that there are houses. The houses
43:51
Speaker 2: tend to be very small and the lots are tiny.
43:53
Speaker 2: It's one of this where the houses are right next
43:55
Speaker 2: to one another, and you go down streets like this
43:56
Speaker 2: and you'll see like house house, house, beauty shop, house house, house,
44:00
Speaker 2: knife sharpening place, and every now and then a bar.
44:04
Speaker 2: It's been zoned like this forever, but it does mean
44:06
Speaker 2: that you do have in this neighborhood some bars that
44:09
Speaker 2: are in very residential areas or everything's close together. This
44:13
Speaker 2: particular bar has been a problem. It has been raided
44:18
Speaker 2: by the FEDS. When a bar it wasn't rated by
44:22
Speaker 2: the city police, although the city police at West Allis
44:25
Speaker 2: apparently have been having problems with this location forever and
44:27
Speaker 2: they get a lot of calls because again it's right
44:29
Speaker 2: in a residential neighborhood. The Feds came in and raided
44:34
Speaker 2: the place, and criminal charges have been brought down against
44:37
Speaker 2: a number of people, including the guy who is the
44:39
Speaker 2: manager of the bar. They were accused of the bars
44:42
Speaker 2: essentially being accused of being affront for a massive drug
44:45
Speaker 2: trafficking operation. The federal indictment lays out the case here
44:53
Speaker 2: and it names all sorts of people, including the bar manager.
44:56
Speaker 2: Trafficking and meth, fenenol, cocaine, and pot are all mentioned
45:02
Speaker 2: in the indictment. The West Alis City Council, in response
45:09
Speaker 2: to this raid, has taken away the liquor license of
45:13
Speaker 2: the bar, so the bar's closed. And again, the person
45:17
Speaker 2: who is managing the bar is facing massive federal charges
45:21
Speaker 2: in connection with a major drug dealing operation that people
45:24
Speaker 2: say was related to this bar. Another of others are charged.
45:28
Speaker 2: They raided a couple of houses, number of individuals, but
45:32
Speaker 2: the bar is accused of being affront for selling all
45:34
Speaker 2: of these narcotics. So where are we going with this?
45:40
Speaker 2: The owner of the bar, remember the person who was
45:42
Speaker 2: charged is the manager. And I don't know if this
45:46
Speaker 2: is a relationship where the owner of the bar simply
45:48
Speaker 2: leases it out to the manager, or if the owner
45:51
Speaker 2: actually has actual control of the bar and hires a
45:55
Speaker 2: manager to run it. But the manager of the bar
45:59
Speaker 2: is claiming that all of this is. Now, remember what
46:02
Speaker 2: the name of the bar is. For those of you
46:03
Speaker 2: not paying attention, do you remember what the name of
46:05
Speaker 2: the bar is? Jason? You do not black? How do
46:09
Speaker 2: we spell black b laqui? Maybe they pronounce it black
46:13
Speaker 2: a I don't know, but it's a play on words.
46:15
Speaker 2: And that is a key part of the story. The
46:17
Speaker 2: client kell of the bar is predominantly African American. This
46:20
Speaker 2: partiit of West Alice is about his diverse in area
46:23
Speaker 2: the community. As you can imagine, there's a lot of Latinos,
46:25
Speaker 2: a lot of whites, and some African Americans. It's on
46:27
Speaker 2: the very east side of West Alice, very residential, lower
46:32
Speaker 2: middle class neighborhood. The owner of the bar, in response
46:37
Speaker 2: to the liquor license being taken away, is claiming, Now,
46:41
Speaker 2: for those of you who don't know what people claim
46:42
Speaker 2: in situations like this, I'm here to tell you, but
46:46
Speaker 2: this could be a learning mode. She's claiming racism. She's
46:50
Speaker 2: saying they're doing all of this because black is black.
46:56
Speaker 2: Pretty comprehensive story of this and GS online written by
47:00
Speaker 2: Adrian Davis, and she quotes the owner of the bar.
47:02
Speaker 2: And it should be mentioned that the bar owner is
47:05
Speaker 2: not criminally charged. Her name appears in the criminal complainant
47:08
Speaker 2: in the indictment, but she's not charged. Her manager is charged.
47:15
Speaker 2: Her name is Pierce. And I'm going to quote some
47:17
Speaker 2: of the comments that she makes here in the news story.
47:25
Speaker 2: The bar owner, who bar manager rather, who has charged?
47:28
Speaker 2: His name Martin Sinclair, forty two years old. But the
47:33
Speaker 2: owner of the bar, this is the person who obviously
47:35
Speaker 2: stands the most to lose if the bar is shut
47:38
Speaker 2: down and they lose her liquor license. She is complaining
47:47
Speaker 2: that the city of West Alice has been targeting her
47:50
Speaker 2: bar from the very very beginning and that they haven't
47:53
Speaker 2: done anything wrong. Her name is Jennifer Piers. She sent
47:57
Speaker 2: a statement quoting here from TJS online saying, the situation
48:00
Speaker 2: is emotionally devastating. Quote for the past three years black
48:05
Speaker 2: and it might be BLOCKA, but I mean, I know
48:07
Speaker 2: where they're coming from. Barren Bites operates a business focused
48:11
Speaker 2: on creating a safe and inclusive environment for a diverse
48:14
Speaker 2: community in West Allis. Throughout that time, we consistently experienced
48:18
Speaker 2: what I believe was heightened scrutiny and treatment that differed
48:21
Speaker 2: from similarly situated establishments Pierce said that those experiences raised
48:25
Speaker 2: concerns about quote bias, selective enforcement, and the treatment of
48:30
Speaker 2: black and brown business owners within the city. Pierce also
48:35
Speaker 2: denied the business was connected to the broader federal drug
48:38
Speaker 2: investigation beyond the building's ownership. Quote. Our business was already
48:42
Speaker 2: established and operating long before his involvement, and any attempt
48:47
Speaker 2: to portray us as connected to matters outside of our
48:49
Speaker 2: business operations is inaccurate and extremely damaging, Pierce saided the
48:55
Speaker 2: quote no evidence has ever shown that Black Barren Bites
48:58
Speaker 2: itself was engaged in activity, despite what she described as
49:02
Speaker 2: years of inspections, monitoring, traffic stops, and public scrutiny surrounding
49:06
Speaker 2: the business. Now, I'm going to give her the benefit
49:08
Speaker 2: of the doubt here, not because I believe her, but
49:10
Speaker 2: because I'm going to give her the benefit of the
49:12
Speaker 2: doubt for the purposes of making this point. Let's imagine
49:14
Speaker 2: you want a bar and you've got an employee who's
49:16
Speaker 2: dealing drugs inside the bar. It's possible that you didn't
49:22
Speaker 2: know about it. Secondly, when you've got a place that's
49:27
Speaker 2: a small tavern and people congregate around it, of course
49:29
Speaker 2: there's going to be drug sales. Sometimes people just sell
49:32
Speaker 2: drugs to one another. Now, the reason that I say
49:34
Speaker 2: is that I think her argument is rather dubious. Is
49:36
Speaker 2: this is the manager, and the federal documentation goes on
49:40
Speaker 2: and on and on and on and on and on
49:41
Speaker 2: and on and on, and the suggestion is made very
49:45
Speaker 2: very clear that this guy is a major trailer player
49:47
Speaker 2: in the local drug operation. Therefore, there was a reason
49:50
Speaker 2: why he was setting himself up managing this place in
49:53
Speaker 2: West Alice. Why was he hired to manage the place
49:58
Speaker 2: in West Alice if not to deal drugs. Again, she's
50:00
Speaker 2: making a statement here rather than responding to questions, So
50:03
Speaker 2: we don't know where answer. Going back to our statement,
50:06
Speaker 2: this is Jason Lanigan Peers, that's the owner. Jennifer Pearce
50:10
Speaker 2: added the quote, NOEVNAS has ever show the Black and
50:12
Speaker 2: Bites itself was engaged in criminal activity. She also said
50:15
Speaker 2: the atmosphere surrounding the business became increasingly adversarial after she
50:19
Speaker 2: publicly raised concerns about the city's treatment of the establishment.
50:23
Speaker 2: So she's going, I was bitching that the city's harassing
50:26
Speaker 2: and said after I bitch, they really cracked out on us. Well,
50:30
Speaker 2: maybe they were doing all the cracking down because the
50:32
Speaker 2: place was up to no good quote. At the end
50:36
Speaker 2: of the day, the entire experience has been emotionally devastating.
50:40
Speaker 2: I ultimately chose to step away, not because I admitted wrongdoing,
50:43
Speaker 2: because it became clear that we were not wanted. Now again,
50:48
Speaker 2: I'll point out that there's a lot of tiny bars
50:50
Speaker 2: in these residential neighborhoods in West Allis, and I'm sure
50:53
Speaker 2: quite a few of them. This complaints with neighbors, you know,
50:56
Speaker 2: Duke Brox, two loud patrons leave and drunk at twelve
50:59
Speaker 2: to twelve o'clock in the morning and so on. But
51:02
Speaker 2: there have been these bards in West Ellis forever and
51:04
Speaker 2: ever and ever and ever and ever. It is extremely
51:07
Speaker 2: rare for a a place to be raided by the
51:11
Speaker 2: fans and the manager to be criminally charged in terms
51:14
Speaker 2: of a massive drug rut ring and second lay for
51:18
Speaker 2: the police and the community. If you've got residents that
51:20
Speaker 2: are complaining about all sorts of interferious activity going on,
51:23
Speaker 2: they have an obligation to respond to them. It is
51:27
Speaker 2: not surprisingly in to me in the least though, that
51:30
Speaker 2: they're blaming the city's pressure to surrender the liquor license
51:36
Speaker 2: on racism. Most of the people whom run West Alice
51:40
Speaker 2: are very, very liberal people. I always think it's instructive
51:45
Speaker 2: when liberals, white liberals find themselves accused of racism because
51:50
Speaker 2: they hold no, no, no, that's not me. I know, We're
51:52
Speaker 2: not a Republican or not anyone out like Trump. We're
51:54
Speaker 2: not anything like this. In the case of West Alice,
51:59
Speaker 2: West right now is at a crossroads. A lot of
52:05
Speaker 2: people have left Milwaukee, have moved into the close in suburbs,
52:08
Speaker 2: especially on the east side of West alis There's been
52:10
Speaker 2: an increase in crime. West Alice, which has always been
52:14
Speaker 2: a rather peaceful middle class community, has increasing urban problems.
52:20
Speaker 2: It is an urban suburb. That sounds like it's contradictory statement,
52:28
Speaker 2: but no, it is an urban suburb, especially on the
52:31
Speaker 2: east side. West Alice needs to nip this in the
52:35
Speaker 2: bud and get rid of every one of these businesses
52:38
Speaker 2: that is allowing illegal activity to go on without regard
52:41
Speaker 2: to whether or not it's a Latino establishment or an
52:44
Speaker 2: African American establishment, or for that matter, a white establishment.
52:48
Speaker 2: If they don't, the east side of that community is
52:52
Speaker 2: going to go to hell as badly as portions of
52:54
Speaker 2: Milwaukee's central city have and for that matter, portions of
52:58
Speaker 2: Milwaukee's near south side. They have an obligation to all
53:02
Speaker 2: of their residents. And I'll point out what I've been
53:04
Speaker 2: able to pick up. Many of the people that were
53:06
Speaker 2: complaining about this bar with themselves African America and Latino,
53:09
Speaker 2: they live in those neighborhoods too. You're listening to the
53:13
Speaker 2: Mark Belling podcast. I have a title for this segment.
53:20
Speaker 2: The title is the key Wascomb Kerfuffle. Ever since I
53:27
Speaker 2: came up of the semen proud of myself, So now
53:28
Speaker 2: I'm just going to see it to it. There's a
53:30
Speaker 2: kerfuffle in Keewascombe. Where's key Wascomb? Keyeascomb is a very
53:34
Speaker 2: conservative community. It's south of Fondlac. I can't say exactly.
53:42
Speaker 2: My guess is fifteen miles. It's put it this way
53:45
Speaker 2: better way of saying it. It's between West Bend and Fondleact.
53:47
Speaker 2: For those of you are not from Wisconsin, it's I
53:50
Speaker 2: don't know, forty five miles roughly from Milwaukee. It's not
53:56
Speaker 2: a tiny city. It's a small to medium sized community.
53:59
Speaker 2: In fact, it's village fair, very conservative. Some of my
54:04
Speaker 2: information here comes from reporting done by the Washington County Insider,
54:08
Speaker 2: which is a very good online publication run by Judy Stephus.
54:12
Speaker 2: According to her, there are some in the community that
54:15
Speaker 2: are trying to get rid of the police chief. There
54:18
Speaker 2: have been several recent problems in Kuwascab. One there was
54:23
Speaker 2: a notorious case two years ago of a police officer
54:27
Speaker 2: who was convicted of two separate crime police officer he
54:30
Speaker 2: was accused he was school resource officers. I recall he
54:34
Speaker 2: was accused of having inappropriate sexual relationship with a minor.
54:38
Speaker 2: He was also accused of beast reality having sex with
54:44
Speaker 2: animals in addition to that. According to Judy stephusis reporting
54:55
Speaker 2: another officer currently on the Kuascom Police department has been
54:59
Speaker 2: suspended over allegations of inappropriate behavior he was involved in
55:04
Speaker 2: twenty five years ago. Indeed, I was able to find
55:09
Speaker 2: online a court filing that goes back to Mauston, Wisconsin,
55:17
Speaker 2: West Central Wisconsin, in which a sheriff attempted to fire
55:23
Speaker 2: this police officer, who's now in Key wascom back then
55:27
Speaker 2: for conduct that he had been involved with in a
55:29
Speaker 2: local police department over there years ago that included an
55:33
Speaker 2: allegation of that when he was twenty four years old.
55:36
Speaker 2: He was having an inappropriate relationship with a seventeen year
55:39
Speaker 2: old girl. Again, that's years ago. I don't believe he
55:44
Speaker 2: was ever criminally charged in connection with that. There were
55:46
Speaker 2: just an attempt to fire him, which is out in
55:48
Speaker 2: the public record. Well this is now surface, and now
55:50
Speaker 2: that all sorts of things are online, people are able
55:52
Speaker 2: to find things in the past that they would not
55:54
Speaker 2: have found before. So there's an investigation going on and
55:57
Speaker 2: that officer is suspended. There are some in the city
55:59
Speaker 2: govern and the village government, i should say, in Koscam
56:01
Speaker 2: who are blaming this in the police chief, saying that
56:03
Speaker 2: he doesn't do a very good job of hiring. The
56:06
Speaker 2: police chief's defenders are saying in keyw Waskam the hiring
56:09
Speaker 2: is done by the fire and Police commission. Now my
56:12
Speaker 2: guess is, and I don't know, but this is a
56:14
Speaker 2: very educated guess that the fire and Police commission in
56:17
Speaker 2: Kuwascim is a bunch of lazy slugs. I say this
56:20
Speaker 2: because these commissions in almost every community is lazy slugs.
56:24
Speaker 2: And what happens is this, It's very much like a
56:26
Speaker 2: lot of school boards. The police chief will say, I
56:29
Speaker 2: recommend that we hire this guy and the Fire and
56:32
Speaker 2: Police Commission does not spend hours doing their own interviews
56:35
Speaker 2: and they simply rubber stamp what the chief says. Now,
56:38
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong about that, and the Fire and Police
56:41
Speaker 2: Commission did all of this hiring and paid close attention
56:44
Speaker 2: to it, then I think it's all on them. If
56:45
Speaker 2: the Fire and Police Commission is doing its job and
56:47
Speaker 2: actually doing the hiring, then if they've hired a couple
56:51
Speaker 2: of bad apples in the department should reflect on them.
56:54
Speaker 2: If the hiring is being done by the police chief
56:56
Speaker 2: and all the Fire and Police Commission is is a
56:57
Speaker 2: bunch of Kawana's club members and others who aren't properly
57:01
Speaker 2: overseeing and doing their jobs, which is the same problem
57:04
Speaker 2: we face with many local school boards who rupper stamp
57:07
Speaker 2: what the administrators do rather than riding herd on them
57:11
Speaker 2: as they put all this leftism in the classroom. I
57:16
Speaker 2: don't know who's right or wrong here, but I'm cool
57:18
Speaker 2: that all of this is royaling the community. The police
57:20
Speaker 2: chief has these supporters. People want the police chief. I
57:23
Speaker 2: would have their supporters and so on. Now, this name
57:29
Speaker 2: is any name that has a literation to this to
57:32
Speaker 2: me is just it sounds like an amusing name, like
57:34
Speaker 2: when Key Waskim Kerfuffle I come up with that. You
57:36
Speaker 2: got two k's Vaden Vargas. This is quite an interesting case.
57:43
Speaker 2: Vaden Vargas is an eighteen year old walka shaw man.
57:47
Speaker 2: Now what I'm going to do here? I want you
57:49
Speaker 2: to listen. Remember Paul Harvey used to do the rest
57:52
Speaker 2: of the story. Those were do they? They probably still run.
57:56
Speaker 2: Paul Harvey's been dead forever, but I'm guessing those still circulate, right. Well,
58:02
Speaker 2: I mean I wonder if some radio stations still run him.
58:06
Speaker 2: I mean there's based on what I'm hearing in a
58:09
Speaker 2: lot of radio stations, there's worst programming that you could
58:11
Speaker 2: come up with. You know, they weren't really timely. Paul
58:14
Speaker 2: Harvey would do these stories in which he changed the
58:16
Speaker 2: name a little bit, and they'd always be a twist
58:18
Speaker 2: at the end. Well, this is kind of one of
58:19
Speaker 2: those stories, because you need to listen to the end
58:21
Speaker 2: of the story here. Vargas Vaden Vargus, eighteen was recently
58:28
Speaker 2: sentenced in Waukashaw County Circuit Court. The sentence to me
58:33
Speaker 2: appears to be leing it. But again, I want you
58:36
Speaker 2: to listen to the entire segment and with whole judgment
58:38
Speaker 2: until then. Here's what he was convicted of in the
58:42
Speaker 2: sentence that he got. I'll quote from the story in
58:47
Speaker 2: the Waukeshaw Freeman, an eighteen year old walka shaw Man
58:52
Speaker 2: who was driving on a learner's permit when he hit
58:56
Speaker 2: a woman and left the scene last summer sentence, and
59:00
Speaker 2: I'll get to the sentence in a moment. Vaden Vargas
59:03
Speaker 2: pleaded no contest to account of hit and run causing
59:06
Speaker 2: injury and another of causing injury while operating with prohibited
59:09
Speaker 2: alcohol concentration, in a plea agreement that saw account of
59:13
Speaker 2: recklessly endangering safety and another of causing injury while operating
59:17
Speaker 2: while intoxicated dismissed. According to the criminal complaint, Vargas was
59:23
Speaker 2: seventeen years old and driving on a learner's permit. I
59:28
Speaker 2: honestly don't remember that. I don't know if that's what
59:30
Speaker 2: they called them when I was a kid. I thought
59:33
Speaker 2: they called it an instructional permit, but maybe they've changed
59:35
Speaker 2: it nowt a lerner's permit. You're not from Wisconsin, Originally,
59:38
Speaker 2: are you? They called it a learners But when you
59:43
Speaker 2: were at school, a long time ago. Jason says, well,
59:46
Speaker 2: whatever it is, it means. My recollection was when I
59:49
Speaker 2: was a kid, it's six months that you have this. Yeah,
59:53
Speaker 2: it was they called temporary, because I remember they called it.
59:55
Speaker 2: We had our tempts, and that may when you had those,
59:59
Speaker 2: there were retrict on what you could do, and any
1:00:04
Speaker 2: kind of infraction that you get on you would lose
1:00:06
Speaker 2: the right for a while to get your full license. Now,
1:00:09
Speaker 2: So in other words, what it means is you don't
1:00:11
Speaker 2: have the same rights that a regular driver would have,
1:00:14
Speaker 2: but you have some and I don't know all the
1:00:17
Speaker 2: wherewithals of what you can and can't do, but it
1:00:19
Speaker 2: is key that he was a relatively new driver, didn't
1:00:21
Speaker 2: even have a full license anyway. According to the Criminal Plain,
1:00:23
Speaker 2: Vargo was seventeen years Vargus was seventeen years old driving
1:00:26
Speaker 2: on the Lunar's permid last July twenty fifth, when he
1:00:28
Speaker 2: struck a woman walking her dog in the nineteen hundred
1:00:32
Speaker 2: block of Francis Street, then drove off after telling her
1:00:35
Speaker 2: not to call the police. Officers arrived to find the
1:00:39
Speaker 2: woman on the ground, surrounded by bystanders. She was taken
1:00:43
Speaker 2: to the hospital with neck, back, shoulder and leg injuries.
1:00:47
Speaker 2: A man who had been walking with the woman told
1:00:50
Speaker 2: officers the two were walking their dog when they saw
1:00:53
Speaker 2: and heard a speeding car approaching. He estimated it was
1:00:56
Speaker 2: going between eighty and one hundred miles per hour. Now
1:01:03
Speaker 2: I don't know Francis Street and walk a shaw, I should,
1:01:06
Speaker 2: but I don't know where that is. But I can't
1:01:09
Speaker 2: imagine any street and walk a show where you could
1:01:12
Speaker 2: even possibly go hity to one hundred. Like the main drags,
1:01:15
Speaker 2: there's so much traffic that there's always going to be
1:01:17
Speaker 2: somebody in front of you. Out of the residential streets,
1:01:20
Speaker 2: they tend to be more narrow anyway. Eighty to one
1:01:22
Speaker 2: hundred is the estimate that the man who was with
1:01:25
Speaker 2: the woman game. Now you I'd say, oh, he's making
1:01:26
Speaker 2: that up. The story goes on, though he told the police.
1:01:30
Speaker 2: The driver, later identified as Vargas, got out of the
1:01:32
Speaker 2: car and repeatedly offered money for her injuries. I can
1:01:37
Speaker 2: see that. So he's driving like a bat out of
1:01:40
Speaker 2: hell hits this woman gets out of the car and
1:01:41
Speaker 2: offers to pay her money. Because he doesn't want to
1:01:43
Speaker 2: call it the police, the man told Vargas to leave,
1:01:47
Speaker 2: and Vargas allegedly got back in the car and drove off. Now,
1:01:50
Speaker 2: when he said leave, he didn't mean like leave the scene.
1:01:52
Speaker 2: He meant like get away from us. You know, he's
1:01:55
Speaker 2: the woman that he's with, whatever the relationship is. Down
1:01:57
Speaker 2: on the ground, all beaten up. The victim later can
1:02:00
Speaker 2: firm the same account, saying that after the crash, Vargus
1:02:02
Speaker 2: told her, sorry, don't call the cops. You imagine you're
1:02:07
Speaker 2: driving like a bat out of hell. You knock someone over.
1:02:09
Speaker 2: She sprawled all over the ground, all bust it up,
1:02:11
Speaker 2: and you were don't call the cops and sorry, no Again,
1:02:16
Speaker 2: that's her claim of what she said, but it just
1:02:19
Speaker 2: has the ring of truth to be on this. The
1:02:23
Speaker 2: story continues. Another witness who had been at a friend's
1:02:28
Speaker 2: house working on a car, called police he saw the
1:02:31
Speaker 2: black Camaro flying past at what she estimated to be
1:02:37
Speaker 2: one hundred to one hundred and twenty miles an hour.
1:02:40
Speaker 2: By the time this is over, they're gonna claim most
1:02:42
Speaker 2: four hundred. But the point is is that, you know,
1:02:44
Speaker 2: I have two separate sets of witnesses saying extremely warp
1:02:48
Speaker 2: speed for a residential area. She said she saw it
1:02:52
Speaker 2: failed to break properly at a curve and veer onto
1:02:55
Speaker 2: the sidewalk where the woman was walking. This woman's walking
1:02:59
Speaker 2: her dog on a sidewalk. The guy's driving so fast
1:03:03
Speaker 2: and obviously he's not experienced, loses control and gets up
1:03:06
Speaker 2: on the sidewalk and hits a woman walking her dog.
1:03:10
Speaker 2: He then, as I said, bug the seat. She said
1:03:16
Speaker 2: the woman was launched ten to fifteen feet into the
1:03:19
Speaker 2: air before hitting the ground. A female passenger she was
1:03:23
Speaker 2: in the car with Vargas later told police Vargas had
1:03:26
Speaker 2: been drinking earlier at a Gulf event. She said she
1:03:30
Speaker 2: didn't know how much he drank, but thought he was
1:03:33
Speaker 2: clearly intoxicated, and recalled yelling at him to slow down.
1:03:38
Speaker 2: She said they hit a woman on the sidewalk, then
1:03:40
Speaker 2: left the scene and went to work. I mean, I
1:03:48
Speaker 2: was once a teenager, and I drove very fast when
1:03:50
Speaker 2: I was a teenager, because every teenager back those days
1:03:53
Speaker 2: still drove too fast. And maybe I drive too fast now.
1:03:56
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to imagine, though, drinking, hitting somebody with
1:04:01
Speaker 2: your car and then going to work. You might claim
1:04:06
Speaker 2: that this is an unusual work ethic. I'm thinking, Okay,
1:04:09
Speaker 2: I'm in a lot of trouble. I'm going to blow
1:04:10
Speaker 2: off going to work, but the woman said they then
1:04:12
Speaker 2: went to work. I don't know what work they were
1:04:15
Speaker 2: going to do, but my guess is that it can
1:04:16
Speaker 2: have been performed that well if the guy was so
1:04:18
Speaker 2: drunk that he was driving like this. Continuing officers noted
1:04:23
Speaker 2: that Vargas had bloodshot, glossy eyes, and slurred speech. He
1:04:28
Speaker 2: was reportedly more concerned about not having a driver's license
1:04:31
Speaker 2: about the crash. This is what he's worried about. Oh,
1:04:35
Speaker 2: I don't have a driver's license, and I did. All.
1:04:37
Speaker 2: Even if you have a driver's license, if you're drunk
1:04:41
Speaker 2: driving one hundred miles an hour and hit somebody on
1:04:43
Speaker 2: the sidewalk, you're probably gonna be a troll. But he
1:04:45
Speaker 2: just for oh, I don't even have a driver's license.
1:04:50
Speaker 2: By the way, they do breathalyze him, he had only
1:04:54
Speaker 2: had a learner's permit. The complaints said. Vargas at first
1:04:57
Speaker 2: denied drinking, but later admitted to it. They ran a
1:05:00
Speaker 2: breath test on him and showed that his blood alcohol
1:05:03
Speaker 2: level was point one eight to two. The legal limit
1:05:07
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin is point eight, so he's more than double
1:05:10
Speaker 2: the legal limit. However, remember that he's not supposed to
1:05:13
Speaker 2: drink at all. He was only seventeen at the time,
1:05:15
Speaker 2: and he's on a learner's permit. When you're on a
1:05:18
Speaker 2: learner's permit, you can't have any alcohol at all in
1:05:22
Speaker 2: your system. And again he's under twenty one, so he's
1:05:25
Speaker 2: not supposed to have any alcohol in his system. So
1:05:27
Speaker 2: he's way over the limit. So we see the motivation.
1:05:31
Speaker 2: He's drunk, way drunk, young, lacking any maturity, driving unbelievably recklessly,
1:05:38
Speaker 2: losing control and hit some poor woman walking her dog
1:05:42
Speaker 2: on the street. Then Fergus Fargus told police his brakes
1:05:47
Speaker 2: slept well. I mean, I could make fun of that excuse,
1:05:51
Speaker 2: but he had to say something, right. This is where
1:05:53
Speaker 2: the lawyers all come in and say, you idiot, you
1:05:55
Speaker 2: have a right to remain silent. Any stupid thing you
1:05:58
Speaker 2: say is probably gonna be while it is being used
1:06:00
Speaker 2: against you. I'm rating it. After being told he faced
1:06:07
Speaker 2: a reckless driving charge, he allegedly responded, Wow, should have
1:06:13
Speaker 2: hit that blank harder. I'm guessing he means the bleeping
1:06:17
Speaker 2: break right. I don't think he means should have hit
1:06:19
Speaker 2: the booze even harder? Blank? Then maybe it is a
1:06:25
Speaker 2: reckless driving broke a blanking bone. Then I'm reckless driving.
1:06:31
Speaker 2: He also claimed the victim was fine and said he
1:06:33
Speaker 2: had offered to pay your medical bills. The complaints set
1:06:36
Speaker 2: all right, that's what he did. Brand new Waukeshaw County
1:06:42
Speaker 2: Judge relatively brand new David Moss handled the case. Vargas
1:06:48
Speaker 2: was sentenced to a year and a half in jail.
1:06:51
Speaker 2: It's straight time, isn't released time year and a half.
1:06:55
Speaker 2: I'll read the sentence here. Judge David Moss sentenced Vargas
1:06:59
Speaker 2: to serve nine months in jail on the first count
1:07:01
Speaker 2: and a year on the pac count, both without release,
1:07:04
Speaker 2: granting Vargus credit for two hundred and eighty three days
1:07:07
Speaker 2: already served. Vargus also was fined one hundred and sixty
1:07:11
Speaker 2: six dollars plus cost the total time. I said a
1:07:19
Speaker 2: year and a half. It's a year and nine months.
1:07:21
Speaker 2: There were two counts and they're concurrent. So but he's
1:07:24
Speaker 2: already served two hundred and eighty three days, which is
1:07:26
Speaker 2: a little over nine months. So it means that he
1:07:28
Speaker 2: has about a year from this point forward. On its face, Now,
1:07:32
Speaker 2: remember what I told you at the beginning of the segment.
1:07:37
Speaker 2: I remember, listen to the end. Remember I said that
1:07:40
Speaker 2: we're not at the end, but I want to comment
1:07:44
Speaker 2: here in the middle. I think given all we have
1:07:48
Speaker 2: in this story, that's way too lgent. This isn't just
1:07:54
Speaker 2: the first time drunk driving. It was an unbelievable reck amount.
1:08:01
Speaker 2: And you know, there's a lot of people who don't
1:08:02
Speaker 2: like to hear me say this one. I mean, I'm
1:08:04
Speaker 2: gonna say it. There's a difference between somebody who's driving
1:08:06
Speaker 2: drunk and trying their best to get home safely while drunk,
1:08:11
Speaker 2: not speeding, doing their best, and somebody who's drunk and
1:08:14
Speaker 2: driving insane la maniaclaim. One hundred miles an hour on
1:08:18
Speaker 2: a city street is going to be always dangerous, imagined
1:08:21
Speaker 2: when you're seventeen years drunk. And then there's the consequences
1:08:25
Speaker 2: of what happened and the fact that it was on
1:08:28
Speaker 2: the sidewalk, and my opinion makes it worse because it
1:08:30
Speaker 2: means that his level of recklessness was way beyond you know,
1:08:33
Speaker 2: if he's driving drunk, it just didn't see somebody crossing
1:08:35
Speaker 2: the street. So I'm ready to say, do we have
1:08:42
Speaker 2: yet another guy who rd as a conservative for a judge?
1:08:46
Speaker 2: And Moss did, Who's up there and he's yet one
1:08:50
Speaker 2: more sell out bleeding our lame ass walk of Shaw
1:08:53
Speaker 2: County Judge. A couple of the bad ones are leaving
1:08:59
Speaker 2: the bed. Looks like we made a mistake in one
1:09:04
Speaker 2: of the newer judges there, Wagner, what about maz now
1:09:08
Speaker 2: As I said, the story in the Freeman doesn't mention this,
1:09:12
Speaker 2: but there is more to the story, the rest of
1:09:16
Speaker 2: the story. In addition to this charge, Vaden Vargas is
1:09:23
Speaker 2: facing charges on a separate incident. He is also facing
1:09:29
Speaker 2: He was charged after this incident occurred. In another case,
1:09:35
Speaker 2: he was accused of second degree sexual assault of a child.
1:09:38
Speaker 2: Secondary is very very serious. First degree and degrees of
1:09:41
Speaker 2: sexual assault. The lower the number, the more serious. Second
1:09:45
Speaker 2: degree sexual assault of a child, child enticement with sexual conduct,
1:09:50
Speaker 2: first degree child sexual assault, intercourse of the person under
1:09:53
Speaker 2: sixteen using the threat of force and violence. That's as
1:09:57
Speaker 2: bad as it gets. Somebody under sixteen, and it wasn't consensual.
1:10:02
Speaker 2: There was the use of force. Now, when they're under
1:10:04
Speaker 2: a certain age, it is never considered consensual. But the
1:10:07
Speaker 2: enhancer here was the threat of the use of force.
1:10:11
Speaker 2: So in addition to the second degree, he has a
1:10:12
Speaker 2: first degree with Forre's victim under sixteen attempted strangulation and
1:10:18
Speaker 2: suffocation and then a battery. That case is still pending,
1:10:24
Speaker 2: and what I see from the online court file is
1:10:27
Speaker 2: that there is a conviction on that case, but he's
1:10:29
Speaker 2: not yet sentenced. The sentencing is June twenty sixth. It's
1:10:32
Speaker 2: the same judge, David Moss. To give the judge the
1:10:37
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt, it may well be that since
1:10:42
Speaker 2: the guy's already in jail and he gives him a
1:10:45
Speaker 2: sentence of a year beyond that for the earlier the
1:10:47
Speaker 2: driving hitting the woman, he knows full well the guy's
1:10:52
Speaker 2: going to be hammered way, way, way, way more on
1:10:57
Speaker 2: the sex charges involving a child. So therefore, since they
1:11:03
Speaker 2: had a plea bargain on the charge with regard to
1:11:05
Speaker 2: the hitting the woman while driving drunk, he comes up
1:11:09
Speaker 2: with enough time to hold this person in jail while
1:11:13
Speaker 2: we get to the sentencing on the more serious charge
1:11:15
Speaker 2: where he's going to come down and hammer them. That
1:11:17
Speaker 2: might be what's happening here. If it isn't, if he
1:11:22
Speaker 2: ends up not getting a proper sentence on these terrible
1:11:25
Speaker 2: sex charges, it means that Wakashaw County has a nightmare
1:11:30
Speaker 2: on the bench. But again I'm withholding judgment on that.
1:11:33
Speaker 2: As he said, the court file shows. I want to
1:11:35
Speaker 2: make sure you have the right data. I believe it's
1:11:37
Speaker 2: June twenty sixth he's to be sentenced on the sex charges.
1:11:40
Speaker 2: So we'll stay us six five six weeks away. We'll
1:11:42
Speaker 2: stay on top of this case and follow through. But
1:11:45
Speaker 2: in the meantime, Vargas is incarcerated. He has been incarcerated
1:11:49
Speaker 2: ever since the two original incidents, and he's got time
1:11:52
Speaker 2: served already, but still another year on the drunk driving one,
1:11:55
Speaker 2: but still awaiting sentencing on the other. And since the
1:11:58
Speaker 2: same judge handling both, it might be we hope that
1:12:04
Speaker 2: the initial sentence, which seem too soft, it is part
1:12:08
Speaker 2: of a gradual plan that is going to include hammering
1:12:11
Speaker 2: him on the sex charge. You're listening to the Mark
1:12:15
Speaker 2: Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling podcast since my
1:12:22
Speaker 2: last podcast, the Packers schedule came out. For those of
1:12:26
Speaker 2: you not from Wisconsin, this is always a big deal,
1:12:30
Speaker 2: but it's a big deal for different reasons for different people.
1:12:34
Speaker 2: For the people who go to the games, it's a
1:12:36
Speaker 2: big deal, especially if they don't live in Green Bay,
1:12:38
Speaker 2: because it means getting their hotel rooms. I'm killing you.
1:12:42
Speaker 2: This always leaks out because some of these hotels are
1:12:45
Speaker 2: booked on the night before a game, before you know
1:12:47
Speaker 2: whether or not there's going to be a home game.
1:12:49
Speaker 2: Some of its people just book I think rooms on
1:12:51
Speaker 2: every weekend. That comes out. But even that's not safe
1:12:55
Speaker 2: anymore because under the current commissioner, Sunday is just another
1:12:59
Speaker 2: day in the NFL. It used to be that yet
1:13:01
Speaker 2: all the games on Sunday, except there was one on
1:13:03
Speaker 2: Monday night and then they had one on Sunday night,
1:13:06
Speaker 2: but even that was a Sunday. The current commissioner hates
1:13:09
Speaker 2: Sunday football. He wants games every day of the week.
1:13:13
Speaker 2: The reason he hates Sunday football is because it frosts
1:13:16
Speaker 2: him that you have multiple games going on at the
1:13:18
Speaker 2: same time. Like take Central Time noon start often will
1:13:23
Speaker 2: be five, six or seven games played that time. That
1:13:25
Speaker 2: means one game will be on Fox, one game will
1:13:30
Speaker 2: be on CBS, and there's games that are overlapping, so
1:13:34
Speaker 2: some games are only going to be seen by a
1:13:36
Speaker 2: regional audience. And the commissioner and I guess the owners,
1:13:39
Speaker 2: they don't like this. They want to have as many
1:13:42
Speaker 2: standalone games as possible, in part because and this is
1:13:45
Speaker 2: the key to this, and it's one of the things
1:13:47
Speaker 2: that's becoming a major political issue, they want to sell
1:13:51
Speaker 2: the games to as many different types of networks as possible,
1:13:54
Speaker 2: in particular where the money is streaming. I can't even,
1:14:02
Speaker 2: off the top of my head come up with which
1:14:04
Speaker 2: games or on which network, but I believe Thursday night
1:14:06
Speaker 2: is Amazon Prime is on Prime Video? Which night did
1:14:10
Speaker 2: Netflix get? Netflix has one of these nights. I think
1:14:15
Speaker 2: they might have the Again, I might be wrong in this.
1:14:18
Speaker 2: They might have like the Thanksgiving Night game, but they've
1:14:21
Speaker 2: thrown in a few Netflix games as well. There are
1:14:24
Speaker 2: others that are bidding on this that want to be involved,
1:14:27
Speaker 2: Apple TV and so on. So in order to make
1:14:29
Speaker 2: this work, those streaming services that they're gonna play forficay
1:14:32
Speaker 2: for specific games, they can't have them be played when
1:14:35
Speaker 2: other games are going on. So if you're like Netflix,
1:14:39
Speaker 2: you want your game to be at a time in
1:14:41
Speaker 2: which no other NFL games are going on. So they're
1:14:44
Speaker 2: coming up these games all over the place, and the Packers'
1:14:47
Speaker 2: schedule sees this. The Packers have a Wednesday night game
1:14:53
Speaker 2: a Wednesday I don't recall ever a Wednesday night game.
1:14:57
Speaker 2: But what it is, it's the Wednesday behind thanks And
1:15:00
Speaker 2: again the commissioner, he's already miled Thanksgiving as much as
1:15:03
Speaker 2: he can. There's been, always been, traditionally an early game
1:15:06
Speaker 2: in Detroit, in an after game noon game in Dallas,
1:15:09
Speaker 2: and then now there's been in recent years a night
1:15:11
Speaker 2: game involving just two other random teams. Well that isn't
1:15:15
Speaker 2: enough for you. So they're gonna be a Friday night
1:15:18
Speaker 2: game during Thanksgiving week and a Wednesday night game. I
1:15:21
Speaker 2: don't know how they're gonna fill the following Sundays games,
1:15:25
Speaker 2: and the Packers have the Wednesday night before Thanksgiving. Fortunately
1:15:30
Speaker 2: for Green Bay the game occurs after they have a
1:15:34
Speaker 2: bye week, so they get a kind of a mini
1:15:36
Speaker 2: double buy, and I think their opponent has the same thing.
1:15:39
Speaker 2: In other words, the Packers will not play the preceding Sunday,
1:15:42
Speaker 2: and because they then play on Wednesday, they won't have
1:15:44
Speaker 2: a game again until the following Sunday. Nonetheless, they have this.
1:15:50
Speaker 2: They also have a game on Christmas Day. They play
1:15:53
Speaker 2: the Bears in Chicago on Christmas Day at noon. Those
1:16:02
Speaker 2: to me are two highlights from the schedule. So this
1:16:05
Speaker 2: whole idea of trying to figure out which hotel room
1:16:07
Speaker 2: on what night and so on when they're doing Wednesday
1:16:10
Speaker 2: night games, at Friday night games, at Thursday night games.
1:16:12
Speaker 2: Until the schedule comes out. Unless you have inside information
1:16:15
Speaker 2: and somebody from the NFL is leaked to you, you're
1:16:18
Speaker 2: not really going to get ahead of this next When
1:16:22
Speaker 2: the media looks at these schedules, they always Jason was
1:16:26
Speaker 2: in sports media for a while. I make fun of
1:16:28
Speaker 2: the sports media when they get they always size up
1:16:30
Speaker 2: the schedule and figure out how many wins you're gonna have.
1:16:33
Speaker 2: That is an exercising futility. Here's what you don't know
1:16:39
Speaker 2: for certain, which teams are going to be good and
1:16:42
Speaker 2: which aren't. For example, prior to last year, people would
1:16:45
Speaker 2: have thought New England was a soft game. New England
1:16:48
Speaker 2: turned out to be one of the best teams in
1:16:50
Speaker 2: the National Football League. There are always teams that turn
1:16:54
Speaker 2: out to be better or worse. Secondly, the legal schedule
1:16:57
Speaker 2: that go through, well, this is a win, that's a loss.
1:16:59
Speaker 2: When a season team is over. There are always games
1:17:02
Speaker 2: that you lost that you thought you would win, and
1:17:04
Speaker 2: there are games that you won that you thought you
1:17:06
Speaker 2: would lost lose. I think You don't know if a
1:17:10
Speaker 2: team's schedule is difficult until you get into the season
1:17:14
Speaker 2: and see how the other teams they are playing are
1:17:16
Speaker 2: doing that season. I think, and I think the Packers
1:17:20
Speaker 2: schedule is obnoxiously terrible, But it's not from that perspective
1:17:24
Speaker 2: of who they play, because I don't care who they play.
1:17:30
Speaker 2: Four of the Packers' last five games all right at home.
1:17:36
Speaker 2: You the how cold it is at lambeau Field in
1:17:39
Speaker 2: December and January. So of the home games that they have,
1:17:45
Speaker 2: fully four of them are in late December or early January.
1:17:52
Speaker 2: The last game of the season is January eleventh, so
1:17:56
Speaker 2: they play two home games in green Bay, then continue
1:18:01
Speaker 2: the cold weather. They play the Friday noon game in Chicago,
1:18:04
Speaker 2: also cold, and then two more home games. So from
1:18:07
Speaker 2: the perspective of the people who go to the games,
1:18:09
Speaker 2: they're getting the worst here that you can get Packer
1:18:12
Speaker 2: games in September and October, the weather's usually fantastic. But
1:18:17
Speaker 2: Green Bay starts the season with two games on the road,
1:18:20
Speaker 2: then a home game, and then are the two games
1:18:21
Speaker 2: on the road, So they're on the road quite a
1:18:23
Speaker 2: bit early in the season, and they have all of
1:18:25
Speaker 2: these home games that are later out of the year.
1:18:28
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the NFL. You know, they have
1:18:30
Speaker 2: the computer, and they have to juggle with all these things,
1:18:32
Speaker 2: which teams get which teams, and then they now they
1:18:35
Speaker 2: have to have all they have all these standalone games,
1:18:37
Speaker 2: and then they take the standalone games and they want
1:18:39
Speaker 2: them to be attractive because the crappy games and other
1:18:41
Speaker 2: ones that are on Sunday. If you're gonna give Netflix
1:18:43
Speaker 2: a game here in prime video, these have to have
1:18:45
Speaker 2: good games. And the Monday night game in ESPN and
1:18:47
Speaker 2: NBC wants a good game on the Sunday night. So
1:18:50
Speaker 2: often the games that are relegated to Sundays are not
1:18:52
Speaker 2: all that attractive games. The gold package. You to explained
1:19:02
Speaker 2: what that is. Gold package games way back when Green
1:19:10
Speaker 2: Bay play games in Milwaukee. I can attest to this
1:19:13
Speaker 2: because I was at the last game ever played at
1:19:15
Speaker 2: County Stadium. This is just complete dumb luck. I had
1:19:21
Speaker 2: the greatest seats in the world for that game, just
1:19:24
Speaker 2: by dumb luck. The seats were in if you think
1:19:26
Speaker 2: of the baseball stadium, the right field corner. It was
1:19:29
Speaker 2: in that corner of the field that Brett's Star, Brett
1:19:34
Speaker 2: Brett Star, Brett Farve with the clock running down in
1:19:38
Speaker 2: the game, ran for the corner of the end zone.
1:19:41
Speaker 2: If he doesn't make it, the game ends of the
1:19:43
Speaker 2: Packers lose, dives into the end zone and scores the
1:19:46
Speaker 2: winning touchdown. Against Atlanta, it was right in front of me,
1:19:50
Speaker 2: So the Packers bowed out their final game at County
1:19:53
Speaker 2: Stadium incredibly dramatic fashion, and just by luck. I mean
1:19:57
Speaker 2: it could just as easily been the other corner of
1:19:59
Speaker 2: the stadium, which would have been on the left field line,
1:20:01
Speaker 2: ninety seven miles away from me, but it happened to
1:20:03
Speaker 2: be right in front of me. Anyway. The Packers play
1:20:05
Speaker 2: games in Milwaukee forever and ever and ever. When the
1:20:08
Speaker 2: Packers took away the Milwaukee games, they get it least
1:20:12
Speaker 2: allow the Milwaukee ticket older is they used to get
1:20:14
Speaker 2: three games. They said, you're going to keep two games,
1:20:17
Speaker 2: and that's now called the Gold Package. The people who
1:20:20
Speaker 2: traditionally had season tickets in Green Bay at lambeau Field,
1:20:23
Speaker 2: they have the Green Package. So they took away a
1:20:25
Speaker 2: game from the Gold Package people, but they at least
1:20:28
Speaker 2: still have two games, and it's always on the schedule.
1:20:32
Speaker 2: I forget what it is. It's either like second or
1:20:34
Speaker 2: seventh home game or something like that. But that's how
1:20:36
Speaker 2: they guarantee that they're not screwing it. It's totally at random.
1:20:40
Speaker 2: It's either second or third week I forget, and then
1:20:43
Speaker 2: I think seventh, but it's locked in every year that
1:20:45
Speaker 2: no matter how the schedule comes out. So some years,
1:20:47
Speaker 2: if there's bad luck for the Packer fans in Milwaukee,
1:20:50
Speaker 2: that you get the Sunday night game, which they hate
1:20:52
Speaker 2: because it means driving back in the middle of the night,
1:20:54
Speaker 2: you have to work on Monday. They don't like the
1:20:56
Speaker 2: Thursday game. The Milwaukee fans in particular love the Sunday
1:21:00
Speaker 2: afternoon games. This year, the Gold Package fans get the
1:21:07
Speaker 2: vikings of the Bears and they're both Sunday games, so
1:21:09
Speaker 2: they get very very lucky. And in addition to that,
1:21:13
Speaker 2: they rotate the preseason when the Packers only have one
1:21:16
Speaker 2: home preseason game. There used to be four, so there
1:21:18
Speaker 2: was always a Gold Package and a Green Package preseason game.
1:21:21
Speaker 2: There's only one home preseason game this year now that
1:21:24
Speaker 2: there's three, and this year it is the Gold Package.
1:21:27
Speaker 2: So the Gold Package and Milwaukee ticket hold is got
1:21:28
Speaker 2: a preseason game and then those two games. But in
1:21:32
Speaker 2: terms of the experience, of Lambeau and all of that,
1:21:37
Speaker 2: you could say that, I don't know, maybe there's an
1:21:39
Speaker 2: advantage that ending at home at the end of the season,
1:21:41
Speaker 2: the end of the season games and when you you
1:21:43
Speaker 2: know they're critical that you're going to make the playoffs
1:21:45
Speaker 2: or not. Maybe there's an advantage to that. And maybe
1:21:47
Speaker 2: the opposition they don't like coming to Lambeau and cold
1:21:50
Speaker 2: weather from that, but from the perspective of the fans
1:21:52
Speaker 2: going to the game, those great afternoons in October early November,
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Speaker 2: you're only going to have a few of because the
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Speaker 2: schedule is so backloaded with home games. And finally, this
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Speaker 2: when I posted my picks for the Kentucky Derby on
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Speaker 2: Belling dot Com, I put right in there online if
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Speaker 2: you're going to play these picks, please play all three
1:22:14
Speaker 2: of the Triple Crown races that I post that I
1:22:18
Speaker 2: invariably if you take all three races into consideration, do
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Speaker 2: well by the end of the season. But if you're
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Speaker 2: only playing the derby, if I don't hit that, you
1:22:25
Speaker 2: might miss out on the winning And indeed that's what happened.
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Speaker 2: I did well enough on the derby in terms of
1:22:30
Speaker 2: who was going to do well, except I didn't have
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Speaker 2: the winner at all, meaning we were scouted in the Preakness.
1:22:36
Speaker 2: The horse that I picked to win the race finished second.
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Speaker 2: So the way I structured my bets when place and
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Speaker 2: show you did okay. It was profitable. And of the
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Speaker 2: six horses that I included on my list, the winner
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Speaker 2: was listed at six, and all of the top five
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Speaker 2: horses were in my top six. So people, boxing tickets
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Speaker 2: and all of that made money. Out of the suggested
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Speaker 2: wagers that I had, they were profitable. As I said
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Speaker 2: in advance of the race, it was a terrible race.
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Speaker 2: There were very few good three year olds that were there.
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Speaker 2: There were three Kentucky Derby horses that went onto the Preakness,
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Speaker 2: but none of them were very good horses. The race
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Speaker 2: was the slowest run Preakness in seventy five years. Now,
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Speaker 2: time of races can be misleading. Some days the track
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Speaker 2: just plays faster than others. Well you go, and this
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Speaker 2: year the race is at a different track than normal,
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Speaker 2: but still slowest in seventy five years in terms of
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Speaker 2: speed figures. It was terrible. The closing fractions, they were
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Speaker 2: all just crawling home. Racing has to change this and
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Speaker 2: move the dates of the Preakness back one or two
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Speaker 2: weeks so you have more spacing between the races, but
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Speaker 2: we at least did well in the wagering. The Belmont
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Speaker 2: Stakes is now three weeks in this past Saturday or
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Speaker 2: nineteen days from today, and we'll post picks for that.
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Speaker 2: With that, out of time for today's podcast. Remember our schedule,
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