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Cha Cha Choo Choo Train with Jody · We Talk Back

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, a production of iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 1: and the Black Effect Network.
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  Speaker 2: We're just two unapologetically Black women with an opinion who
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  Speaker 2: talk back.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, y'all?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in for a new episode of
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  Speaker 1: We Talk Back, a show dedicated to you dreamers and chasers. Today,
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  Speaker 1: it is to you niggas and hoes as well, because
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  Speaker 1: we're going to get into a lot of hoes shit.
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  Speaker 4: Today, anyway, it's your co-host AJ Holiday.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, Tam? Hey, y'all.
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  Speaker 5: I love y'all.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, AJ.
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  Speaker 5: I love you, too.
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  Speaker 4: And I love you more, and I love you back.
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  Speaker 5: How was your weekend?
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  Speaker 1: I got on a bra right now. I really hate bras, man.
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  Speaker 5: I don't never wear them.
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  Speaker 4: I hardly wear them, but I, look, my bad.
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  Speaker 1: I put one on to record today, and I've been
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  Speaker 1: struggling ever since.
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  Speaker 4: I never put those things on. My weekend was very uneventful.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't do much.
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  Speaker 1: It was very cold. I'm talking about like teenager cold, teens.
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  Speaker 1: I hibernated again this past week. I do not like winter.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just, I'm a summer baby.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, winter sucks. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I like, I would prefer to be hot. I really
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  Speaker 1: would prefer to be like warmer.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a spring and fall kind of girl. Like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't want it too hot. I don't want it too cold.
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  Speaker 2: Just give me some nice mediums. I actually, speaking of
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  Speaker 2: nice mediums, I flew out to L.A. on a humbug
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  Speaker 2: because we were supposed to actually be in Memphis at
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  Speaker 2: the St. Jude's homecoming event, but it got postponed due
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  Speaker 2: to frigid-ass weather. So I just had the weekend off.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, what can I do? I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to sit here in Charlotte.
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  Speaker 5: Where can I go? So I just hopped on a
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  Speaker 5: flight and went to L.A.
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  Speaker 2: And I just want to, if anybody know Raphael Sadiq,
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  Speaker 2: He lied because he said, it never rains in Southern California.
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  Speaker 5: It rained the whole fucking time I was there.
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  Speaker 2: And I went and watched that video and I should
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  Speaker 2: have known them niggas was lying because they had blouses
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  Speaker 2: on and it was like blowing in the wind in
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  Speaker 2: the video.
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  Speaker 5: A nigga in a white blouse, he lying.
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  Speaker 3: They tell me. Any nigga in a white blouse?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's blowing in the wind. He lying.
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  Speaker 4: That's about right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. So it rained the whole time I was there.
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  Speaker 2: I really didn't get to do as much as I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to because the weather was kind of, Shit, it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't cold, but it was just rainy. LA can get
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  Speaker 2: cold at night, though.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was chilly, but it wasn't nothing compared to what
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  Speaker 2: we got going over on this side of the United States.
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  Speaker 5: I hung out with my homegirl. She had twin babies
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  Speaker 5: about five months ago, so I got to meet them.
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  Speaker 5: And that was really it. I didn't really get much done.
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  Speaker 5: So that was it.
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  Speaker 3: Two babies?
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  Speaker 5: Two twin babies. They are so adorable, girl. They are
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  Speaker 5: so cute. I just wanted to eat them up.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't held a baby in a long time. I
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  Speaker 4: want to hold a baby.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I've been holding babies for the past two years. It
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  Speaker 2: seems like all my friends are having babies back to back.
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  Speaker 5: To back to back.
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  Speaker 4: Pop that pussy, baby.
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  Speaker 3: You next.
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  Speaker 5: You next.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I might.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on.
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  Speaker 1: Before we go there, I always think, like, what are
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  Speaker 1: we going to do if either one of us get pregnant?
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  Speaker 3: Like, we just going to be podcasting pregnant? Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Our mouth ain't going to be pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they might be trying to impregnate
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  Speaker 2: our mouths, but we're not getting impregnated in the mouth.
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  Speaker 3: Girl babies.
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  Speaker 1: We got going on a stupid internet news this week.
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  Speaker 2: No, we got to start with Nimrodda. They should just
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  Speaker 2: call her Nimrod. Nikki Haley from South Carolina.
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  Speaker 5: She really got her ass kicked.
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  Speaker 2: On national television and said the United States has never
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  Speaker 2: been a racist country. And I'm just thinking like, I
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  Speaker 2: was just so infuriated and upset with her for saying that.
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  Speaker 2: Like we, we really live in two different countries in
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  Speaker 2: the same country. A lot of people like racism has
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  Speaker 2: never been a thing in this country.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get upset about those things. And I say
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  Speaker 1: this a lot. Black people, withdraw your energy from this
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  Speaker 1: bullshit you see on TV because what they are trying
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  Speaker 1: to do is harness your fucking energy to get us
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  Speaker 1: in this emotional state because we are emotional people, right?
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  Speaker 1: So now you're not fucking thinking straight.
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  Speaker 3: Fuck that bitch.
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  Speaker 4: The deluge.
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  Speaker 3: Girl.
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  Speaker 4: And then she actually tried to explain it.
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  Speaker 2: She said our founding fathers had the best of intentions
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  Speaker 2: when they started and we fixed it along the way.
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  Speaker 5: Did we?
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  Speaker 4: Founding fathers of some stolen land.
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  Speaker 3: And she is Native American, ain't it? Yes. Girl.
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  Speaker 4: Native American. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And she's saying that this country was never racist.
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  Speaker 5: Never been racist.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: She's not Native American. She's a Caucasian white woman.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, she is.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: Native Americans know what racism is in this country. Indigenous
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  Speaker 1: people know what racism is. We know that this country
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  Speaker 1: is racist. And it was built off of racism and
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  Speaker 1: off the backs of Black people. I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: the fuck she's talking about, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck. That is insane. That
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  Speaker 2: is insane.
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  Speaker 4: They be gaslighting the fuck out you. She literally just
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  Speaker 4: gaslit the whole United States. All black people, all brown people.
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  Speaker 3: All at once. What is racism? Not here. Bitch, you crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Girl, that was an episode of SNL. That was not real.
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  Speaker 5: That was not real. Oh my God. What else happened, girl?
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  Speaker 5: Beat it, Nikki.
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  Speaker 1: She's Sarah Palin of this current election, okay? She just
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  Speaker 1: thrown out there the... To shake shit up.
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  Speaker 3: To fuck with us. That's it. That's all. Nimrodda.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Nimrodda.
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  Speaker 3: Why are you calling her that?
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  Speaker 4: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 3: That's her first name. Nimrod.
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  Speaker 4: I never knew.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like a hemorrhoid cream or something.
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  Speaker 4: Nimrodda.
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  Speaker 3: Nimrodda.
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  Speaker 1: All right uh okay i don't know who this guy
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  Speaker 1: is but i came across was it no jumper podcast
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  Speaker 1: a clip uh this is dude is it luchi luchi cannon.
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  Speaker 2: Loose cannon oh it's r-u-c-e maybe it is loose cannon
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  Speaker 2: yeah you are fluent in niggatry.
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  Speaker 1: Because i would have never pronounced it like that okay
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  Speaker 1: All right, so he's claiming to have carried on a
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  Speaker 1: long-term relationship with Shawnee O'Neal. And the rapper claimed that
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  Speaker 1: Shawnee was using her child support money from Shaq to
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  Speaker 1: buy him expensive gifts.
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  Speaker 4: The rapper told listeners.
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  Speaker 1: That he and Shawnee had an affair and that Shaquille's
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  Speaker 1: ex-wife was.
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  Speaker 4: His sugar mama, okay?
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  Speaker 1: The rapper claimed that Shawnee brought him expensive gifts like
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  Speaker 1: an Audemars.
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  Speaker 4: Piguet and a Richard Millie, okay?
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  Speaker 1: And then he drops a bomb saying that she paid
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  Speaker 1: him $ 50, 000 right before she got married to the preacher
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  Speaker 1: for some ghetto D.
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  Speaker 4: Do you believe that?
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  Speaker 5: 50 stacks.
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  Speaker 3: 50 racks.
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  Speaker 4: 50 stacks for some dick.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I need to see it.
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  Speaker 3: I need to see it right now. What type of
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  Speaker 3: dick is that? Right. Dick is so cheap. And free.
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  Speaker 3: It's free.
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  Speaker 4: Why are we paying But she paid you.
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  Speaker 5: If she paid you, she paid you to shut the
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  Speaker 5: fuck up. And you out here running your mouth.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly. Come on, man.
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  Speaker 3: What's up?
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  Speaker 5: These niggas want to be Instagram bitches so bad.
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  Speaker 1: The grown men be running their mouth way more than
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  Speaker 1: women nowadays. Like, they can't wait to kiss and tell
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  Speaker 1: on your ass. You can't like niggas.
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  Speaker 3: Excuse me.
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  Speaker 4: You can't fuck niggas because you like them no more.
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  Speaker 4: You can't.
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  Speaker 1: You got to get something on them first. You got
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  Speaker 1: to stick your finger in their butt. That's the only
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  Speaker 1: way you can do these type of things.
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  Speaker 3: If Shawnee got $ 50, 000, hey, hit.
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  Speaker 4: Me up soon.
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  Speaker 3: Shit.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just joking, Shawnee.
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  Speaker 3: We love you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like, it be certain people, I be like,
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  Speaker 1: These people are not problematic.
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  Speaker 4: They lay low.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just, I can't stand when a motherfucker, like,
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  Speaker 1: come out and, like, trying to.
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  Speaker 5: Expose them in any type of way.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like it. I don't like it. I feel
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  Speaker 4: like she should put another 50 bands on his head.
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  Speaker 3: Next case.
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  Speaker 4: Put 50 bands on her ass.
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  Speaker 5: She can't do that.
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  Speaker 3: Shit.
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  Speaker 2: She just got to pray for the Lord. The Lord
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  Speaker 2: practiced vengeance, bitch. She was tearing shit up in the Bible.
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  Speaker 4: Let him do it. Why he can't do it through me.
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  Speaker 3: There's a movie.
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  Speaker 5: What was the movie about that?
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  Speaker 2: Where the guys were like doing the Lord's work and
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  Speaker 2: they was like killing people and they were like angels.
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  Speaker 4: Killing bad people, right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like something, boondocks or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, there's been several movies like that, but
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  Speaker 1: why do people think, okay, if y'all say this thing
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  Speaker 1: is a real thing, right? Why can't I say God
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  Speaker 1: made me do it? without being crazy God told me
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  Speaker 1: to do it God came to me and told me
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  Speaker 1: to to do this thing now I'm crazy no I
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  Speaker 1: don't but don't y'all believe in it I believe in
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  Speaker 1: God and you say God told you to do something
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna believe that because God.
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  Speaker 2: Told me let me tell you God been speaking to
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  Speaker 2: me I don't know if I've opened up with.
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  Speaker 5: My uh What's the headshot?
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  Speaker 3: The third eye.
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  Speaker 2: Because I've been getting like downloads, baby. I've been getting downloads.
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  Speaker 2: I said to this man, all right, y'all, I'm not joking.
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  Speaker 2: In the airport, I felt so compelled to tell this
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  Speaker 2: white man that everything was going to be okay, right?
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  Speaker 5: But I just was scared.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, he's going to think I'm crazy. I
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  Speaker 2: just feel like God is telling me to tell this
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  Speaker 2: person this, but I'm just going to not say it
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  Speaker 2: to him. And then I felt so convicted by not
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  Speaker 2: saying it. I couldn't even sleep that night. So I
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  Speaker 2: was like, Lord, if you ever send me a message
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  Speaker 2: for someone else, I'm going to share that message. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to hesitate. So I was on the flight again,
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  Speaker 2: and there was this other man, and he was humped
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  Speaker 2: over looking at his iPad, like, I mean, all the
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  Speaker 2: way humped over. And I got a download. It was like,
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  Speaker 2: tell that man to sit up straight. Tell that man
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  Speaker 2: he needs to sit up straight right now.
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, I don't want to tell
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  Speaker 5: this man that. That's so weird.
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  Speaker 2: But I got out my seatbelt, and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: this is going to sound crazy. But God said, sit
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  Speaker 2: up straight. And he grabbed my hands. He was like,
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  Speaker 2: you're absolutely right. I went to the doctor and the
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  Speaker 2: doctors talked about my back and my sitting and I
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  Speaker 2: need to sit up straight.
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  Speaker 5: So you're right. I'm going to sit up straight. I
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  Speaker 5: was like, Lord, use me.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, God. Shame. Yeah, you got to sit up straight.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Like I learned that from another middle school teacher. She
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  Speaker 1: used to be like, stop hunting down.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, I'm bad about that too. Hold your chest up.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: What's next in stupid internet news?
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  Speaker 4: Girl, what if.
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  Speaker 2: Now, you know the girls.
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  Speaker 4: The girls be doing filters. The girls do all the things.
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  Speaker 1: What if you break out with a nigga and he
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  Speaker 1: then posts all your un-Photoshopped pictures on social media?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, he is petty. What's this about?
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  Speaker 4: That nigga win.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he won.
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  Speaker 4: He probably a Gemini.
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  Speaker 3: Some Kanye West shit.
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  Speaker 4: Or a Sagittarius.
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  Speaker 5: Because that behavior right there is definitely diabolical.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Gemini and Sagittarius is like the opposites.
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  Speaker 5: I believe that.
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  Speaker 4: I believe that.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, somebody did that?
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  Speaker 4: Girl, yes.
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  Speaker 1: And listen, I don't know how true the story is, y'all,
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  Speaker 1: but I thought it was very funny and I thought
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  Speaker 1: it could actually fucking happen. And I feel like maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's somebody out here trying to do the laws work
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  Speaker 1: for these niggas and putting ideas out there.
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  Speaker 4: For the next person who get played.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 2: After I photoshopped my picture, the real picture don't exist
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  Speaker 2: no more.
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  Speaker 3: Delete.
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  Speaker 4: This is the real picture, bitch. She had a totally
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  Speaker 4: different body.
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  Speaker 1: She had the big booty, you know, flat stomach.
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  Speaker 4: The picture he posted... of this girl. She had a gut.
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  Speaker 4: It's like he took her stomach and pushed it out
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  Speaker 4: the back.
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  Speaker 3: No booty.
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  Speaker 4: I would be like, first of all, that picture is photoshopped.
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  Speaker 4: This is my real body. Illusional bitch.
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  Speaker 3: The Lulu. Right, that's AI, bitch.
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  Speaker 4: That's what you're going to say.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to switch it around on them right quick. No,
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  Speaker 2: somebody said, I got a video of you with a
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  Speaker 2: nigga at the beach.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, that's artificial intelligence.
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  Speaker 3: They doing everything with these computers.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, can you tell me it's not?
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  Speaker 5: That's not me.
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  Speaker 3: Shit.
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  Speaker 4: That's not me.
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  Speaker 1: The fuck is that? Who has that next to me? Like,
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  Speaker 1: that's my picture, but who, I'll be like so convincing,
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  Speaker 1: like lying.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Who the fuck wrist is that?
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  Speaker 5: It's AI.
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  Speaker 3: Chad GPT created that bullshit.
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  Speaker 4: Y'all, we're trying to implement a new segment. Okay. It's
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  Speaker 4: called Eminem. Messy.
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  Speaker 3: Memes.
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  Speaker 4: Messy memes.
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  Speaker 3: That's what it was, Tam. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Do you have one?
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell y'all a messy meme I have for
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  Speaker 1: the week. I don't know if y'all saw this shit.
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  Speaker 1: I saw it on Spiritual World. But somebody commented.
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  Speaker 3: This is actually a tweet.
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  Speaker 1: Because y'all saw this week, Jeannie Mai was saying how
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  Speaker 1: she didn't have time to overlook, to look over the
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  Speaker 1: prenup before she signed it. She was like, she signed
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  Speaker 1: it like five days prior. So this post says, Jeannie
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  Speaker 1: Mai talk about she didn't read the prenup thoroughly. And
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  Speaker 1: the comments saying.
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  Speaker 3: That's what happens when you have me up and by. Bitch.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, that's racist.
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  Speaker 3: No. Stop it.
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  Speaker 4: Like, a little teaspoon of racism is in there.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Lord have mercy. Yo.
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  Speaker 4: I can't fucking not with the internet. People are undefeated.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sick of it. Okay, but I love it at
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  Speaker 1: the same time. It's a great pastime. I find myself
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  Speaker 1: strolling way too much. I gotta get the hell off Instagram, man.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all, we about to get into some real life ho
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  Speaker 2: shit when we come back.
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  Speaker 4: Alright, y'all. Welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, today we have a very special guest. Okay, she's
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  Speaker 1: a self-proclaimed sexologist. She's a professional whole uh motivational speaker
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  Speaker 1: motivational speaker okay and sophisticated entrepreneur i hear slinging girl
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  Speaker 1: on the website she had a damn uh uh a
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: sex goals planner okay so you can plan out all
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: your whole shit for 2024 okay this is interesting and
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: she's also the host of the is it pro hope
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: How do you pronounce the name of the podcast?
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  Speaker 4: Provocative.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: It's still phonetically provocative. Provocative.
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  Speaker 1: The All Things Provocative Podcast. So she's also a fellow podcaster.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all welcome Jodi to We Talk Back.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, so do you spell host H-O-E-S-T or just H-O-S-T?
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  Speaker 3: H-O-E-S-T. Everything is whole, bitch.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: You hear me?
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: Yes, friendly reminder that hoe is life.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: It's everywhere.
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: But I do want to say that I am not
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: a self-proclaimed sexologist.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: I am a sexologist.
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: Okay, gather us up. Gather us up.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: She got paperwork on her pussy, okay? Yeah, paperwork. Like,
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: I graduated in this hoe shit.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: So wait, there's a hoe institution?
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, no, it's not a.
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: Whole institution, but there are certification programs for people that
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: are interested in becoming sexologists. So I did two different
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: sexologist programs. One program was directly under Dr. Rachel from
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: the TV show The Doctors. So she has a sexologist
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: program called the Dr.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Rachel Institute.
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: So did her program and that covers all things sex.
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: And then I did another certification program with Sexpert Consultants.
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: And that was where I got my dick-sucking certification.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: So there's a dick-sucking certification out there?
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am. Well, you can get certified in all kinds
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: of shit these days.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: I didn't know.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I know I'm a fail-at-class guy.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a professional.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, AJ, you gonna feel bad.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Hell yeah.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Listen, I got to love you.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I got to love you down to work this fucking mouth.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: I get it. Yeah. I got to, you know, just
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: pretend like I do. So, okay.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: I just got a question.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: You had to pay money for someone to teach you
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: how to suck dick?
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Or teach other.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: People to suck dick?
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: It's to teach other people how to do it, right?
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: And then it's also, you learn like the anatomy. You
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: learn the science behind it.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: You learn.
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: Not just like, all right, the mechanics of it. Like,
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: of course, all right, you do this. But what comes
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: behind doing these things very.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Well, very well. It's one of these things where I
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: feel like when it came to the certification program, the.
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: More you know, like when you really know the knowledge
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: behind it, you just get really good at it because like, oh,
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: I know this is going to work. So definitely for me,
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: once I learned like the anatomy, the science behind all
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: of it, I got super.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Excited about doing it. I'm like, oh my God, like
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I really like this.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: Like once I learned like the fun facts about like the,
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: even like what's in semen, like excited me.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: What's in it?
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: It's different. It's different things in there. It's like melatonin
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: in there.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Sleepy D Yeah I can tell people like if you
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: ever like really went to work and you got a
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: little tired like yeah it's a little melatonin in there
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Hold on just get something from the store Y'all know
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: how them BET movies be like I guess you're wondering
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: how I got here I guess.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: You're wondering how I got here.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Please explain how you got here like what happened Yeah
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: like what made you want to go into this particular field.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: So I was a podcaster first and my podcast was
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: always about sex. But then I was like, OK, I
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: don't just want to be a podcaster who's talking about
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: sex and don't know what the hell they're talking about.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: So for me, it was really having the education behind it. Also,
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: as I was learning more about myself through sex, I
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: just wanted to continue to learn more and also help
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: other people. But in order to help other people, you
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: can't just go off your own experiences. You have to
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: really study. So I was like, all right, I don't
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: want to be, I want the credentials. I want to
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: say I'm qualified to speak about this now. of course
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: again still a podcaster so crack some jokes for sure
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: I tell my stories the way I tell them but
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: when I get in like professional mode and it's like
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: okay no the behind the joke this is where this
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: comes from so I just wanted to be able to
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: exercise that dynamic in a lot of ways.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Now, if y'all listening, we talk back a lot. Y'all
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: know I always say hoes wear glasses.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: This girl is so sweet looking.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: She's so cute. And we'll swallow you up.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: We'll swallow you up. Have you ever been swallowed up?
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: Have you ever been swallowed up?
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: I told y'all, them fucking school teachers, them nurses, them
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: be hoes, man. The gag is... I got LASIK.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: These are not prescriptions. Oh, so she was really blind.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: She went and got LASIK.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: I was really blind.
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: But now this is just for the aesthetic so that
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: people look at me like, oh, she doesn't look like me.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: But okay, question.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Why did you go with ho for everything? There's such
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: a negative connotation that goes with that term. So why
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: did you pick that to be your brand?
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: So for me, when provocative was kind of like born, right?
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: It was born as I was at home doing the dishes.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: I get a lot of good ideas from water, like
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: touching water, being in water, like.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Literally in water.
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, probably because I'm a water sign, but I draw
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: a lot of inspiration from it, right?
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: So I'm doing the dishes.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: And what I realized about myself is that I've always
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: been kind of a provocative person. just like the things
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: I say, sometimes the way I dress, like people look
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: at me and they're.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Like, wait, why did you do that? Right.
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: So then I was like provocative, but I'm gonna spell
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: it with hoe. And the reason I'm going to spell
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: it with hoe is because hoe represents all of our
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: repressed desires.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: It represents the parts of us that people say like, no,
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: that's bad. Like you shouldn't do that because you don't
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: want to be seen this way. Right. However, there's so
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: much power in embracing that dark side, that negativity. You
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: can really find out who you are by leaning into
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: that part of who you are as a person, right?
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: So just playing on that idea between like, even in society,
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: they want to group women in like, all right, you're
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: either respectable or you're a hoe.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: There's no in between. You're one of the others.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: However, if the worst thing that you can say about
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: me is that.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: I am a hoe, but I'm like, no, I know
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: who I am.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: Nobody can call you something if you don't give them
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: the power to call you something.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: What your grandma say, it ain't what they call you,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: it's what you answer to.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: It's what you answer to.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: So, okay, yeah, you can call me whatever you want, right? However,
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: the only person that knows what I do is me.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: So it has no power here. So for me to
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: kind of take that and say like, all right, cool. Like, again,
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: nobody can, if the worst thing that somebody can call me, Jodi,
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: is a hoe, but I built a whole brand around it,
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: then that just means that I'm a good marketer.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Because nobody really knows what I do.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: What's your definition of a hoe, Jodi?
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: Just someone who does not care about what's socially acceptable
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: when it comes to sexuality.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: So it's not a matter of body count necessarily.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: Because we know people who will be called a hoe
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: based on what they wear.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with your actual sexual activity.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, she's this.
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: We also know what we also know to be true
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: is that there's a lot of hurt in that word.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of trauma. There's a lot of pain
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: in that word.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: There are a lot.
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: Both for the person being called it and the person
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: that's using the word. So for someone to use that word,
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: you have to be an ugly person to use that
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: word to try to describe someone to kind of bring
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: them down, right?
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Because it's supposed to be a humbling word, right?
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: It's supposed to be a word, a derogatory term, like
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: for you to use that word to describe someone else.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: You have to be fucked up. You have to be
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: a bad person. I agree.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: To even like say that about somebody. Like you have
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: to be, there has to be so much judgment there.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: So much like pain. You're unhappy. First of all, why
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: are you worried about what I'm doing with my.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Coochie, my drone?
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: Like it's just, it's a lot to unpack, right? So
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: for me to kind of like really take a look
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: at myself, mind you, when I started this brand, I
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: was starting a whole phase.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: You're a new hoe I was new and I was
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: wearing it I was like it's a badge of honor
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: so I was.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: New to it I had just been I had just
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: gotten out of a six year relationship.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: And I was like I've never been a hoe.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: When have I not tried and that's what.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: I like literally and when I tell you I was
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: like you know what I've never masturbated. Literally, I had
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: to go all the way back. I was one of
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: those people that just had so much shame around it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: I was like, you know what? I'm going to find
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: myself through hoeing. This is my mission. This is my journey.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: This is what I'm going to do. Then I'm like,
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: all right, cool. I'm going to figure out what it
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: is that I like. Now I'm going to deconstruct ideas
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: of Oh, you should only have sex with people you're
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: in a relationship with or you should only have this
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: amount of bodies or you should like. So really kind
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: of like unpacking that and figuring out what's going to
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: work for me sexually so that I have control over
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: my sexuality.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: So this guy you was in a six year relationship with,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: what do you think he think.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: About you now? Do you even speak?
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I don't give a damn.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: So it's funny because this guy in particular, he was
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: like the, he was the most toxic, like, I'm so
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: glad I got out of that situation when I did,
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: because I think that I had to get out of
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: that relationship so that provocative could be Because I do
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: strongly believe that there are a lot of women out
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: there that can resonate with my experience and the things
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: that I say. Because I only talk about hoeing as
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: a way to figure out what it is that you
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: want and what do you desire. If you have a
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: hoe face for like six months and you say, nah,
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: this ain't it, congratulations.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Good job.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: Like you, you've been able to get what you needed
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: to get out the experience.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: But if you, you go through it and then you're like,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: you know what? No, I'm gonna keep doing this because this.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Works for me.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: It's all about.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Like just figure out what works. Now this guy,
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: he took me through the ringer. So he like, he
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: was one of those people where he was like, he
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: wanted me to feel low. So that, so it was
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: very much a lot of power dynamics. So for me
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: to go away from that and then kind of like
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: really figure out who I am, like one kind of
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: had to happen for the other. But in terms of
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: like what he thinks of me, like I can care
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: less because I am a happier person because of what
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: I've been doing.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: So you kind of repurposed and repackaged whole kind of
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: like nigger and nigger.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Is that what it's like? Okay. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: People have asked me, like, so are you on, like,
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: your bunny rabbit shit?
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Like, when he was like, oh, yeah. I do live
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: in a trailer with my moms.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, kind of.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Like, I guess you kind of say I'm on my
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: bunny rabbit shit.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: And I'm still screaming fuck free world.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, I get it.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Yes, fuck a papa duck, fuck a clock.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I don't watch enough TV. I don't know what the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: hell is going on.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: So, your motivational speaking, what does that entail?
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: So, again, just encouraging people to find who they are
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: through exploring themselves sexually, right? Because you can do whole
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: shit while in a relationship, whole tendencies, I call it.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: You can do whole shit single.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: It doesn't really matter. It's about, like, are you being
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: unapologetic when you're doing it, right? Are you really doing
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: it to figure out what it is that you want
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: to do?
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Not taking into account how people....
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: Because, again, some people be in relationships and they don't
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: want to do certain things with their partner because they like, oh,
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: how are they going to look at me after that?
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: That's all shame. Shame is socially constructed. Let's say forget that.
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: Because guess what? At the end of the day, I
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: want to feel I want to have a sexual sex
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: life of like of abundance of satisfaction.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: You cannot be satisfied if you are depriving yourself of
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: quality sexual experiences. And that's subjective because it's going to
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: be based on the person.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: So what you would deem is a quality sex life
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: based on what society is telling you, you shouldn't or shouldn't.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: That has shit to do with it. So, yeah.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: I definitely can.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: You like being in a relationship with somebody trying to
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: shame you and me and Tam. I could not have
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: been doing this podcast if I would have stayed in
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: my last relationship. Our very first episode, that nigga came
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: downstairs and was like.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Are you a hoe?
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I had to take myself out to fucking lunch before
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I answered that nigga. And when I got back, I
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: was like, you know what?
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I am.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Now deal with it. Like now, now what you're going
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: to do?
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: And it's like, now what you're going to do?
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: It's crazy because guys love hoes. Period.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: They do.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: They love them. Yes. They do. They marry them all
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: the time. You can't spell housewife without hoe. They marry them. They,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: they like they're, they're everywhere. Right.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: And, uh, What also doesn't make sense is that how
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: do you want the freakiest chick in the world.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Will want her to be a virgin when you meet her?
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Virgin hoes.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: That's what we call them.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: We always say men want virgin hoes, child. Yeah, it
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: makes no sense.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes no sense.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: There are a lot of men that don't truly know
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: what they want because a mature man who truly knows
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: what he wants, he's going to tell you like, yeah,
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: I want you to be a little seasoned. I want
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: you to have some experience because A man, he's... And also,
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: I've heard this before. Like, I've heard this direct from
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: men's mouth. They're like, having sex with somebody that doesn't
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: have that much sexual experience is boring. They don't really
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: like it. Like, she's not doing anything. She just doesn't know.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: She doesn't know herself to even be able to communicate
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: that to a partner.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: So, yeah. Most men would say that doesn't really... Men
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: just be saying anything.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Most men would probably say that doesn't really correlate to
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: how many partners, though. Because you could learn all the
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: things from one partner, maybe.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: You know how to fuck him.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: You know how to fuck that partner.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: That's different for everybody, I feel like.
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah. You need a few. A couple.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: A couple.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about threesomes and trains.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: What's the difference?
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Because now, right now, this is a trending thing online.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: I forgot.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: It was a singer I saw. She was so passionate
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: about it. Explaining how... There's a difference between a train
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: and a threesome. And her definition was a train is
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: like there's one woman and the guys are in and
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: out the room. So after he's done, somebody else comes in.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: That's my that's really my definition of a train, too.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: And then the threesome, she said everybody's in the room together.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: And she said most heterosexual men are not doing like threesomes.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: And I found this little write-up online, and that's what
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: it suggested, too. Like, if it's a threesome and the
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: men are touching the women, then they would consider that
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: a threesome.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: But if not, it's a train.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: So, what's interesting is... I mean, the men are touching
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: each other. That's what I meant. Like, bisexual men, basically.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Then it would be considered a threesome. But if it's
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: just one woman, a dick in the ass, dick in
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: the pussy... I mean, excuse me, dick in the pussy,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: dick in the mouth, it is.
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: So I definitely think this topic is, it's interesting because
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: as people describe what they view certain things are, you
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: kind of get a sense of how they think, right?
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: So a lot of men who will say that basically
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: a MFM, male, female, male, threesome, there are a lot
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: of men that will say a MFM Off bat is
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: a train. Now, let's think about why they say that.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: Because of homophobia. They don't want to be seen as,
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: you know, even if it's like, oh, well, me and
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: my homie, we ran her. They will say that because
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: it's about a power dynamic. They don't want to be
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: seen as less than dominant in that situation because homophobia.
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: if there's another man present, they don't even want people
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: to associate them with homosexuality. That's why a lot of
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: men get super passionate about like, oh no, it's a train.
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: Because at that point they're saying like, oh, it's not.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: Our dicks didn't touch.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Exactly, right?
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: However, how many times have women been in threesome situations
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: with other women and they've not interacted?
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Because they're not.
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: So I've also, my very first threesome, me and the woman-
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: Did not, you know, outside of like, oh, like she
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: was sucking on my titties. But outside of that, it's like, no,
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: I didn't. At that time, I wasn't even giving women head. Like,
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: what are we going to do?
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: Like, so I wouldn't say that, oh, we ran a
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: train on him. Like, no, it was still a threesome.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: A threesome is, I tell people threesomes are like.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: A dance with three people.
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: Same way if it's regular sex with two people, it's
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: a dance, right?
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. It's not my fault that y'all did the cha-cha
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: and we was over.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: Here doing the two-step. Like, it's just a different dance.
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: It's just a different dance. If there are three people
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: in a room naked doing things with each other, it
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: doesn't matter if, you know what I'm saying, the men
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: were overly engaged.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Look, they could have... Gave each other a high five.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Guess what? You still participated in a threesome. It was
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: not a train.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Is there a train?
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: I think there is a such thing as a train
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: because I think, again, the train is about who is
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: in control in that moment and who is kind of
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: like just being used almost.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: A train for me is like when you think about
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: being used, just being used. Right. So almost as if
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: you're just a whole sex toy.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Like you're that's that's it. It's not about pleasure.
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: It's it's a very it's it's not a mutually beneficial,
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: pleasurable experience. It is a one way pleasurable experience almost.
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: But again, that also depends on the situation with that person,
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: because there might be a woman who's like, no, I'm into,
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: you know, gang bangs or what have you. Like, you know,
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: it's a whole group of women for stuff like that.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Right. Definitely. I'm not a kink shamer. So that's that.
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: I think that when it comes to the power dynamic,
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: if there is a man who is on the bed
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: and there are women in and out.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Back to back. Guess what? It's a train. It's a train.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: But the men wouldn't consider that.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: A train, though. Of course they would.
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Because it's just like, ho.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Like they use it to demean the woman in the situation.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: But it's like, for me, of course there are a
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: lot of men who, because of patriarchy and homophobia, they're
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: going to say, well, that's not it. Just because they
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: saying that's not it don't mean that that's accurate.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: But if it was like a whole line of women
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: just coming to this man to get their pussy ate,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure men would agree that that's a train.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: Because it's demeaning to the man.
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because again, that man is being used. So the
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: reason that men like, oh, well... Men like to have
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: their dick involved in stuff because now they still have
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: control over the situation.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Like, that's all that is. It's like, look, well, if
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: That's why men won't admit when they just be eating
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: women out and not getting no ass. They don't want
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: to admit how often they be doing that because the
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: power thing.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Like, if motherfuckers really knew you was a munch in
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: real life....
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: Because there are so many women that's like, no, it's
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: a couple men that.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah. So that's what it is.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: Like, men just don't want to be seen. And it's like,
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: it's super unfortunate because patriarchy doesn't really benefit them. They're
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: not able to really, like, explore their sexuality in a
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: way that is not limited because of patriarchy and homosexual... Homophobia, basically.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: Right? Right.
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: So if they would kind of like get up out
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: of that, they wouldn't have to worry about women saying like, oh, well,
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: I would have been cool with doing this sexual act.
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: But now I'm on the fence because of how you
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: view sex in general.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think train comes from like high school, right? Yeah.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Me personally, I think that if I don't know what
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the age limit is, but you a grown ass man,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: why are you having sex in a room? with another
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: man if you if you aren't into men it's just
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: weird to me really.
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah I mean like I said I don't kink shame
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: so it's definitely it takes a certain type of man
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: to do something like that um I've gone to.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Like sex parties and stuff like that and you.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Always different I mean like a in a threesome situation like.
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah like three of you Yeah, but then also with that,
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: there are heterosexual men that would be curious about that,
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: but they would never admit it out loud because they
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: don't want people to think they're gay. Mm-hmm.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: So it's like, again.
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: Patriarchy and homophobia doesn't really serve them because it's like, ooh,
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: you kind of really want to explore this.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Too bad. Like, because you can't openly admit it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: And then if it's almost like, oh, they almost have
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: to wait on like they grilling somebody to like bring
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: that to them. And even with that, like there are
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: a lot of women who, who fantasize about MFMs, but
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: they can't voice it because then they gag them like.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: So is you a hoe or something?
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: It's a lot of men that don't even want you
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: to bring toys into the bedroom. They'll be like, all right, well,
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: you could bring a squirrel, but I draw the line
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: at the dildo.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Like, come on now, man.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like, y'all, this whole conversation too grown for me.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: I'm like lost in the stars.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Like, okay, tell me more.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: I have never had a threesome. I've never had a train.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Tammy, have you ever had a threesome? No. I like.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: No.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Tell the truth shame the devil bitch no no seriously
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I never had like in Miami me this girl I
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: met in Miami got drunk she invited me back to
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: their room and then they end up getting into a
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: fight before anything happened so I left wait.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: So you was down yeah I don't know.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: I don't know what was going to happen.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Like it was supposed to be like a, like me
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: watching them situation.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: That's really what it was supposed to be.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Getting your boy your bag.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: But nothing happened. She got, they started arguing and I left.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: What was the argument about?
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: It was like in my twenties. He put his hand
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: in my jumper.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: The argument was about you.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: No.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: No.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: And then that was it.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: That was as close as I've ever come to that.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: And then, like, a train, absolutely not. I have no
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: interest in that.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, same. Never had.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: A... Never been in a train situation. I've had a
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: couple threesomes. Three different... Three different couples. Five different incidents.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: So.
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: One couple was like the favorite. That was the married couple.
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: They were, they're really cool people.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Really cool people. So you like the unicorn. Yeah, I am.
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: I'm always the third. I'm always the third. There's, I
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: like being a third. I think there's power in being
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: a third, but also I know a lot of people
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: that want to be a third, but they don't want
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: to be, they want to be a third because they
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: don't want to have a threesome with their partner because
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: they're like, Oh, what if, You know, I don't like
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: how like they're kissing this other person or what have you.
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: I am glad that I was the third before I
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: was anything else because I know that if I was
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: ever to have a threesome with a current partner, I
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: know how I would want it to go.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: And I would know the rules.
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: I would know the community, you know, like how to
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: communicate so that everyone has a pleasurable experience. So my
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: first experience was like super mid.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: I'm like, ugh.
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: Like, Yeah, just because the aftercare. So after the fact,
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: the girl got super weird because she was like, oh,
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: the guy that we, again, I'm the third. So I didn't,
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: I wasn't asking for this. I thought we was going bowling.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: I don't know how we got here. Like, I don't
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: know what's going on. But he was like, commenting on
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: like a lot of like my posts and stuff like
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: that so now it's like everything that he does she's
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: getting like upset and so now it's driving a wedge
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: between them next thing I know like a couple weeks
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: later she's texting me like so.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Is you fucking woo woo and I'm like girl what.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: Like did you have sex with my guy without.
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: Me exactly and I'm like excuse me like but what's
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: crazy about that is why would you like You're claiming
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: him as yours.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Why are we even having this conversation?
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Because she probably doing something to appease him in the
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: first place. Because why are you that insecure once y'all
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: do the thing?
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: That's my point.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: So how do you negotiate the terms before doing?
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Because if you're the third, right? So usually you fucking
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: with couples for the most part, right? So how do
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: you negotiate like the terms? So now, so shit isn't
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: weird after the fact.
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: First of all, the threesome should always be initiated by
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: the woman. You should not, I strongly recommend that you
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: interact with the woman.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: She is in control. That's her guy.
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: There shouldn't even be like, oh, well, the guy approached
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: me and now he's bringing his girl.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: No, no, I want to talk to her.
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: Because as women, we should be on one accord and
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: y'all as a couple should be on one accord. The
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: man should just be happy that he got invited. So first, yeah,
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: rule number one, the woman in the relationship, she is
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: controlling the dynamic. If there's a good dynamic there, there
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: will be a good overall sexual experience.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: So that's rule number one.
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: Rule number two, don't assume.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: That penetration is involved.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: I'll say that because I've had a threesome where there
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: was no penetration. And that was my favorite one, actually.
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: So it was more so me and the woman interacting.
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: And then like, it was like oral with her husband.
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: But also that's because it's like, all right, she, what
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: was funny about that is.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: Hold on, does that count?
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Because that's kind of like if a tree falls in
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: the woods and nobody hears it, does it make a
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: sound kind of situation?
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, it still counts. If nobody get no dick,
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: I don't count that.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: No, and that's what I'm saying.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: He didn't get no dick.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: No, so I said I was not penetrated.
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: I did not say that me and the husband didn't
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: have any sexual interactions. So the wife doesn't like sucking dick.
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: I love sucking dick.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: We gonna get into that too.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So it worked out.
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: It was like, it was a super pleasurable experience. But
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: what I found out later is that she didn't tell
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: him that he couldn't penetrate.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: He, as out of respect for his wife, didn't assume penetration.
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: So what I'll say is when you, you can almost
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: get a sense of like when the couple is on
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: one accord. So when you said that that couple started
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: arguing and you left, good because they were not on
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: one court.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Make sure there's a healthy... I don't think I was
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: on one court with them either.
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: I didn't know. I was scared as hell.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Maybe I should leave.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I should be here.
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: But yeah, there has to be a healthy couple dynamic
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: because you bringing somebody else into your house. And you
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: don't want to bring somebody else into a messy house.
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: So I'll definitely say that. And just have an open mind.
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: Have fun with it. I used to be a girl
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: that was like, oh, my God. I'm not eating pussy.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: And then I ate it. And I was like, oh,
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: this is cool.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: Like, it was cool.
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: And I'm glad that I had that experience because.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: What's wrong?
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: That's it, girl.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, girl. Yeah. But also, I used to be
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: that girl that, ew.
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: When I was having sex, like maybe five years before
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: I even started sucking dick. So it's like oral just
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: across the board was, and then also I tell people
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: I'm not even a bisexual. Like just because I participate
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: in threesomes and I've eaten a pussy or two, that
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: doesn't mean that I identify as bisexual.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: I identify as a freak hoe. That's the difference.
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: Like, Wait a minute, is that a new gender? Is
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: that a new gender?
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my preferred pronoun.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Is freak hoe.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: That was supposed to be a part of the episode,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: us to go through all the different sexualities live, but Jesus.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, my preferred pronoun is freak hoe, because I am
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: not a bisexual.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Yo.
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: Hold on, I'm confused at that, because, so you don't
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: like women? Or you do like women?
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: No, I'm not sexually attracted to women, no. Like, I
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: don't look at women like, ooh, I'm turned on, no.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: So when you ate some pussy, you was just like,
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: what does it taste like? Like, I don't know. What
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: made you want to like eat some pussy?
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Did you get paid? It was being in a moment. Yeah.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: So for me, it was me tapping into a very
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: specific kink I have.
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: It has nothing to do with the person, right? So
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: there's a reason that I like sucking dick so much.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: That's what I wanted to ask.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: And it's because of the reaction.
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: It is the physical reaction that I'm seeing with like
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: literally as I'm sucking dick and I'm seeing the, Like,
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: I'm seeing the squirming.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: I'm hearing the moans.
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: So that's ego.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Yes, very much. I am huge. Stroke my ego. Grab
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: my head. Tell me I'm being a good girl. Affirm me. Like,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I love all that shit.
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: So at that point, it's like it has nothing to
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: do with this being a woman at this point.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: If I'm getting this reaction from you, I'm like, oh, shit,
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: I'm doing my thing down here. So that's what it
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: is for me.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: A freak hole.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Well, here at We Talk Back, we have, you know,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: to us, there's two, well, to me, I don't know
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: about Tam, but to me, there's two different types of
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: sexually liberated women. There's the sluts and there's hoes. Hoes
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: get paid. So for these threesomes, are you making money
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: off of them? Like, I'll be trying to understand the
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: psychology of this shit, right? Because it only makes sense
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: to me as like a, like, because, you know, the
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: definition of hoes has money in the actual definition. There's
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: an exchange there. I can understand that. But just to
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: be doing some freak hole shit just to do it,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I be trying to really understand the psychology of that shit. Like,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: what is the psychology of getting a train ran on you?
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so I can't speak for that because that's not
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: one of my kinks. But what I would say is
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: doing anything for your own sexual gratification is payment enough, right?
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: Because think about how many times you've had sex with
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: somebody and then been unsatisfied, right? So if you can
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: actually get satisfaction from doing it, something that you genuinely
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: wanted to do that's payment enough that said.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: The married couple definitely pay more car.
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: Notes it wasn't it's one of those things where it's
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: like you know like you don't directly ask somebody for
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: some money but they make sure you straight right it's
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: still transactional.
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: I'm about to say it's still transactional but.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: Not like it wasn't $ 40 on the dresser.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: Definitely not.
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: There was more like $ 800 in my hand before we
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: even had sex.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, look, I would have been down anyway.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: Cherry on top. That's what I be thinking.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I be thinking like sluts, like they don't know how
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: to transfer the activity into monetary value. That's what I've
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: made up for them. Maybe they just do it because
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: they really, really like it.
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: So do you use the term slut?
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: Mostly when I talk about sluts I'm talking about men
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: men are sluts I don't really men are sluts it's
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: funny because they easy I call men sluts hoochies they're
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: the real issue it's not us I agree if all
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: three of us were to go to some random party
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: in our cities we probably, we might see a nigga
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: in there we already had sex with. If a man
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: goes to a party or a club or somewhere, he
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: probably going to see, I don't know, 15, 20 different
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: women he had sex with.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Yes. So men are really the girl, the hostess.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: I don't know. Not all men be getting pussy as
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: much as y'all giving them credit.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: The men that you probably would fuck is getting some pussy.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the men that we would be dealing with.
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: I'm not mad at him saying that because I recently
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: learned this because I thought men be out here getting pussy.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: But the comments on social.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: Media clearly reveals.
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: That it's too many men out here that ain't getting
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: pussy because they too concerned.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: With everybody else. They're Samuelites, girl. We got to call
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: them out.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: The one thing I do love is that they're literally
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: raising their hands.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: So we know who.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: The fuck to stay the hell away from.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: Here I am.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Ain't had sex in a year.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: I'm mad.
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: But shit, I'd be mad too.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: The thing is, they could get some pussy, right? But
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: they're not going to get the pussy they think they deserve.
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: Because they want the Instagram baddies with the.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: Not you want an Instagram baddie and you look like...
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: flipping burgers at McDonald's like relax like come on now like.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: No so here on the show we typically we had
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: an episode called hoe and don't heal but you you're
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: saying that hoe and does yeah but can you just
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: explain how it can so um I say that it
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: can it's funny because I had an episode called hoe
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: like oh then heal like it was something along those
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: lines like that's how I named it.
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: Because it's all about your intention, right? Like you have
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: to be intentional in the things that you do. So
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: if you are just out here, just having sex, neglecting
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: your own pleasure, neglecting the outcome that you want in
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: this situation, not learning about yourself, not learning about what
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: you truly take pleasure in, What are your kinks? What
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: are your fetishes? What makes your toes curl? When was
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: the last time you had an orgasm? Like really doing
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: a reflection on your sexual activity and asking yourself, why
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: am I doing this? Because that's key. You have to
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: know why you're doing it. So you have to hold
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: with intention. Because if you don't have no intentions, you're
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: just doing something.
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: So like a hoe with boundaries.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very much a hoe with boundaries.
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: Like I'll tell somebody in a minute, like, yeah, I
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: might be a hoe, but I promise you, you can't
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: name three guys I slept with. Because again, I'm going
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: to do what I need to do and how I
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: do it. Like I definitely still know Where my pussy be? Like,
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: I keep up with her.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: So... But I definitely think that it's a matter.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: Yes, like.
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: The goals book. Because I set goals. I told people, like, look,
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: be intentional. The same way you're intentional with everything else
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: in life, be intentional with your sex life.
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: So what's a whole goal?
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: So, a whole goal could be.
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: You might say, like, all right, I've never had an
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: orgasm because a lot of women don't have orgasms. Or
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: you might say like, I've never had an orgasm in
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: this particular situation, right? 80% of women don't experience orgasms
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: from penetrative sex alone, right? So there has to be
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: some kind of clitoral stimulation. You might challenge yourself to say,
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: all right, my goal is to have an orgasm through penetration. Well,
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: what would need to happen for that to happen? So
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: really being intentional about setting the stage because sex is
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: a performance, right? So what does it mean for you
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: to really let go? Because you can have an orgasm
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: without being penetrated or, you know, without a clitoral stimulation.
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: Like there are up to like maybe eight. types of orgasms.
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: You can have an anal orgasm. You can have orgasms
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: just from, if you found the right person to whisper
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: in your ear ever so softly, you might have an orgasm.
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: But you have to tap into that energy source. So
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: what does that mean that you have to do to
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: get to that goal? Does it mean that you're being
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: more mindful? You're meditating. You're taking care of yourself. You're
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: doing a self-care routine where, you know what? Before I masturbate,
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: I'm going to take me a hot bath and I'm
• 55:35
  Speaker 6: going to light some candles.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: And guess what? I'm going to make love to myself.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: I like that. But that's what it comes down to.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take a shower, I'm going.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: To eat, and then I'm going to.
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: Like really take care of yourself. Because then when you
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: walk away from that experience, you're like, oh my God,
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: I just fucked the shit out of myself. Now you
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: can communicate what you like to someone else. And you
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: can tell them when it's not working for you. It's
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: hard to communicate when something isn't working for you if
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: you haven't done the work to know what will work. Right.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: That's a whole phase so you can know what you like.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: Yes. Let's talk about this.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: So wait, should it be a phase or should it
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: be a lifestyle? Whatever works for you. Whatever works for you.
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: As long as, again, you're being super intentional. That part
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: of your life might last a year and you say,
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: you know what? I've learned the lessons that I need
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: to learn. I've received whatever I was supposed to receive
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: from this part of my life. And now I'm ready
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: for what's next. But it might need to last three years.
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: It might need to last five years. Everybody is going
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: to be different. And it's also going to depend on
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: like your natural attachment styles. Like, are you a serial monogamist? Like,
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: what's going on? Like, that's a whole nother conversation. But
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: that's why everybody's journey when it comes to sex is
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: so different.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: You asking that question like you ain't know it was
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: a lifestyle in your 20s and now it's not.
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: I'm asking for our audience.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: Them hoes know.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing, too.
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: Like, again, every week we certain certain women experience it
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: in their 20s. Some don't like me. I was in
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: a relationship from the age of 16 or 23.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: And I was in another relationship from 24 to 30. Like.
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: I never had a whole phase. And then I turned
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: 30 and I was like, you know what? I'm not
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: getting into another relationship until I experience sex. And I
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: experienced sex on my turn. So now, oh, if somebody
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: ain't hitting it right, hey, baby, we got, let's have
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: a conversation.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: She ran the chalkboard.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like it's hard to have relationships, like
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: serious relationships with men with this type of platform?
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: Yes and no.
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: So I say yes, because majority of men are just
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: misogynistic and very one sided. However, anybody that knows me
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: in real life knows that my platform is 20% of
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: who I am. And if you are even interested in
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: you know, I'm saying like, if you don't want to
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: get to know the the 80% of who, you know,
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: other parts of me, I'm fine with that.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: I'll never try to pressure you or.
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: Convince you otherwise. Like, that's cool. There are millions of
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: people on this earth.
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: Period.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: So, no, I'm good.
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: However, the people that get close and they're like, you
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: know what?
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: No, I get it. I see what you're doing.
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: I see you. I appreciate you for who you are.
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: I see you beyond that. Because here's the thing. I
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: upload a post that I just got my MBA and
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: graduated magna cum laude, 10 likes.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: I go viral every time I talk about sucking dick.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: That's the world we live in.
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: I'm going to play the game or I'm going to
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: let the game play with me.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: Period. Right.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: We smart hoes Congratulations on your MBA though. Oh, thank you.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: But it's like, I say that to say like, that's
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: literally the world we live in. And I remember like,
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: it was maybe like five years, five, six years ago,
• 59:18
  Speaker 6: well before provocative. I made a status and I was like,
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: sometimes you have to act like you're not as smart
• 59:25
  Speaker 6: as you are. I literally was, I listen to a
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: lot of audio, audible books, right? So I don't listen
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: to music as much as I listen to literature. And
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: I'm currently listening to The Art of Seduction. They talk
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: all through there about never letting people know how much
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: you actually know.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: Play dumb. Play the nut wrong. It's charming.
• 59:55
  Speaker 6: There's a reason that men don't want you. Oh, we
• 59:58
  Speaker 6: don't care about your accomplishments. We don't care about how
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: much you know.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: I know y'all don't. So I'm going to play dumb.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: I love doing that when it comes to sports. When
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: it comes to sports, I'd be like, so which team
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: is yours? The red or the blue team?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: What are they doing with the ball?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: I have a hard time playing dumb, man. I'm going
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: to try. I can't do it.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: It's fun. It's low-key fun. It's fun.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: See, that's how I know people be playing with your intelligence.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Y'all motherfuckers out here acting like y'all know some shit
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: and y'all do.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: That annoys me.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: So you get four chances to get 10 yards? Is
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: that how it works? Okay, that's so interesting.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: I really don't understand that shit. You understand football?
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: I don't. I do.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Look, let's talk about the throat choreography right quick.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: These throat choreography classes that Jodi's offering. I want to
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: know about that.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: Throat choreography.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: I refer to it as throat choreography because like I said,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: sex should be a beautiful dance and sucking dick is
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: just one part of the dance.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: So I when.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: I teach women to suck dick, I typically tell them
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: to do it to a playlist. act like you're dancing.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: Like your throat is dancing on that dick. That's what
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: it should be like. Like the enthusiasm that you feel
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: when you're listening to your favorite song, that is with
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: the same amount of enthusiasm that you should be sucking
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: dick with. So I use, like literally that is how
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: I want to, that's how I market it because.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Anybody can, oh yeah, I'm going to teach you how
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: to suck dick. No, I'm going to teach you how
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: to create beautiful choreographies. With your throat. Have you ever
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: been swallowed?
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: Lord have mercy.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: Have you ever been swallowed up?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: So that's a class you offer is like, okay.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: I'm sure some of my, our listeners, AJ might need
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: to sign up for that.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: No, it's fine.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: I got good head.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: I just be tripping.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: I just really can't do it for real because of
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: my damn medical issue.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: I got TMJ.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: So I can't really like do it for a long,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: a long time without experiencing excruciating pain for the next
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: couple of days.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: For real. Oh, that's sad.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: And nobody should be in a position to do something
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: that is going to hurt them.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, yeah, that's not favorable.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: I'd be sliding all week like, God damn.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: It's definitely some tricks, though. It's some tricks to get
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: out of that. Oh, no, the hand shit.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, my hands is crazy, okay?
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: I be telling people, like, if you ever pay attention
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: to how.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: I grab a mic, you know that I know what
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: I'm doing. All right. Y'all, we come back from this break.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: I want to play a quick game with Jodi and
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: then we're going to get a dumb bitch story from
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: her as well.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: All right, y'all, we back. So I wanted to play
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: finish the lyrics with Jodi. OK, just a couple of songs.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: OK.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: All right. First one. Let's see.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he keep playing with me. He don't know.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: I ain't no scary ass bitch. I'm a hoe. Good one.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: That was easy. All right. Second one. This is the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: last one.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: Wait, wait. Make it good. Make it good.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: Because I feel like you got to give her enough.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: Because I will be up.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: Because I will be up. Because I will be up.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: Y'all not getting it?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know this shit either. I'm like.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Because I will be a freak.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: Until the day.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: Oh! Adina Howard!
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: My girl!
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: I was about to say.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: You was like, I'm going to be a.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Just one new, one old to let you know these
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: hoes been outside, okay?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: Because Adina Howard looks so good, okay?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: I was about to say, no. Yeah.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know. If you would have said maybe one
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: more word, I would have got it, Dana Howard.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: That's my girl. That's my song.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I thought she was going to do Throat Baby.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: That would have been a good one for her.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: Throat Baby.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: I would have got it. I would have got it.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: I would have got it.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: All the freaky songs, all the throat songs on my playlist.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: All right, we have a segment on our show called
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Dumb Bitch Story. I don't know if you know it,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: but you got to share a time that you got
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: played by the opposite sex.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: Dumb bitch story.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 6: You are so dumb.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Because we've all been a dumb bitch at least once
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: or twice.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: Make it good, throat goat.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: Played.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: Played.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: I got played a couple times.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: Haven't we all?
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: I know, right?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I got played a couple times. All right, I'll
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: tell y'all the funny one.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: Okay, so. You got to laugh to keep from crying.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, to keep from crying because I cried for sure.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: So I was dealing with one of my exes. And
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 6: we were kind of like on rocky terms this particular instance.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: And I.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Was at his, but I was at his house. So
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: we wasn't that damn rocky. Like I was still at
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: his house.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: Had a dream that he was going to cheat on
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  Speaker 6: me at a kickback.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, had a dream.
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  Speaker 6: Like, literally in the dream, he said, yeah, I'm going
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: to throw, like, a kickback. I'm going to throw a
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 6: party later. And then I walked into the party, and
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 6: he was fucking with another girl. Wakes up from the dream.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: I'm working from home, just sleeping.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: Normal day.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: And he, yeah, what you doing later? I'm like, yeah,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: me and the girls, we supposed to go. We going
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: to Navy Pier. We doing a cruise tonight. Yeah, I'm
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: probably going to throw a kickback.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like. That's how it be, boy.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Like, now, I'm used to having dreams and then them happening.
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  Speaker 4: But that was too quick.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: Like, there was not a, like, literally hours after waking
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: up from this dream, you say this. And I didn't
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 6: tell him about the dream, of course. And then I
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: didn't reveal the dream after he said that.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: So, I'm like, hmm. Okay. Mental note.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 6: So, day progresses.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: And I go to Navy Pier as I was supposed to.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: I miss the boat. I didn't try to miss the boat.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: I was really trying to get to the boat.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Miss the boat. Okay, universe. Let me call this nigga.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: I call him because I missed the boat. Now I
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 6: don't have plans no more. You finna have a kickback though.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: So calling him. He not answering. Text him.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 6: The bubble is green, but the phone is still ringing,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: which means that your phone not dead because it's still
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 6: ringing all the way through.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: You turn your app messages off. Why would you do that?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: Don't worry about it. You want to see me. Obviously.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: You want to see me. It's fine. So pulls up
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: to his crib.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: This point is like maybe 1130, close to midnight.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: Pulls up to his crib. The lights were on. The
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: lights were on. No music or nothing.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: But it's only like maybe one or like all the
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 6: lights went on, but it was like a couple lights on.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, okay, he's clearly up there. He's up there.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: So knock on the door. No answer.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: I calls his name. Calls up to the window. The
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 6: light turns off. I'm like, oh, this nigga think I'm dumb.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: Men are so dumb.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: Dumb?
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: No. Oh, she don't see the light.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: Oh, now I'm not home.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: Like evaporated out the fucking house.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: So, continues to call his name. Then, he sticks his head.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: Out the window like he was asleep. Huh? Come to
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: the door. What is you doing? No, man.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: I'm asleep.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: Why you can't come to the door then? Come to
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: the door. So we arguing, right?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: So he's trying to argue because he wants me to argue.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: and leave so knowing what he's trying to do I
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: flip it around so instead of arguing with him now
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 6: I get erratically emotional.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: I'm like I just can't believe it.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: So I'm like getting super emotional right so he comes
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 6: to the door he comes to the door kick that
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 6: shit open.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: Right so he's like i'm gonna just walk you to your.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: Car i'm like okay after you he walks down the
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 6: stairs i'll push his ass runs through his crib there's
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: a bitch sitting on the couch i get this close
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: to the bitch next thing i know i'm getting lifted
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: in the air Cause I ran.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: Ran through the house. It's this close. Get lift in
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: the air. So now I'm like, let me go. Let
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: me go. Let me go. I see a broom. Grab
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: the broom. He got me still. I'm beating him with
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: the broom.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: This girl is over here. Now I was running towards her.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 6: So she was like getting on, like backing up on
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 6: the couch and stuff. Cause she don't like, she just
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: see this girl running towards her. I'm beating him with
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: the broom. I'm trying to knock everything over.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: He, Joe, Joe, let it go, let it go. And
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no. He was just fucking me in his
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: bed 12 hours ago. So I'm blue, like.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: He, leave before I call the police.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you gonna call the police on me?
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: You gonna call the police on me?
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: He had this glass. He had this glass, like, bar.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 6: He had this glass bar.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: I'm like, don't worry about it. I'm going to leave.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: I'm going to leave.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: I look at the glass bar.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: I grab it.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: I throw it down. So all the glass shatter around
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: all over the floor. And I'm like, now I'll leave.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: And then I left.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: You tore some shit up.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: And kept fucking with this nigga, ain't it?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: Look, so, no, let me.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: So after that, I went home.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: I hacked this man, all his social media accounts. I
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: hacked all of his accounts. hacked his email because his
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: password was his grandma niggas love their grandma so hacked
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 6: his email then hacked all his social media accounts.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: And then it was to the point where.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 6: He had so many people calling me and bugging me
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 6: for like the password he was supposed to start.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: That new job and you got into his email fuck
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: that job like.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: I was trying to ruin him And then like after
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: a week of terrorizing this man that way, I was like,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 6: you know what?
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: All right, I'm done. He had to let it go.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: So since his password, like they was like, one of
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 6: his best friends was like, what's the password? I was like,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: the password I made is something like super petty.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: It was like, fuck. his name like it was that the.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Password is fuck Justin that's the password.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: So gave him the password and then I let it
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: go I let it go started you know my healing
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 6: process and then three months later that nigga came back
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 6: and you let him come back and that's what it
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 6: was but I never should have let that nigga come
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: back but.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: Again He shouldn't have let your ass come back.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: He should have never came back for you to fuck
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: this whole apartment up, try to fight the bitch.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: That was his fault.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: That was his fault. That was just collateral damage at
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: that part. Shame.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: I will never understand how a bitch be quiet in
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: a nigga house.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was insane.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: Like, you hear me yelling his name. Like, I would
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: have been like, ooh, girl, he up here. Bitch, I'm
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: opening the door.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: I done opened the door for a bitch because this
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: nigga was refusing to open. I'm like, girl, just come in.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: It's cold outside.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: Like, come on.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: The fuck you outside for two, three hours knocking on
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: the door? Yeah, because clearly ain't going nowhere.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: Exactly. And we trying to go back to sleep. Just
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: come in. You need a blanket, bitch.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Like, what is happening?
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 6: But I feel like everybody kind of have to deal
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: with something like that just so that they can know
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 6: I'm never dealing with that shit again.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: Girl, you hear me? Yeah. Oh, yeah, that was my
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: that was my that was a good one. Yeah.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: Tell everybody where they can find you to plug all
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: your things for our listeners.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 6: So again, I'm Jodi. I'm the host of Provocative. That's P-R-H-O-E-V-O-C-A-T-I-V-E.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: I spell it with a ho in the middle because
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: now we all got a little ho in us.
• 1:13:37
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• 1:13:39
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• 1:13:49
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• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: What else? All that shit you got, all that stuff.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: You got on your page, you selling pussy. No, I'm
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: just playing.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: Right. She got throat choreography.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: Yes, all that.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: Again, I'm a sexologist. I do teach different sex classes.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: My specialty, my bread and butter is throat choreography. If
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 6: you want to take that class, I do both in person.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: I do virtual classes as well. I do other sex classes.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: I do sexual massages as well.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: I see you with that fucking Grinch outfit on.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: Let me just ask you, when you're teaching like a
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: throat choreography, what are you teaching like on a banana
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: or some type of like dildo?
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: I got three sizes because I feel like you got
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: to be prepared. So, yeah, I teach you how to
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: do the small, medium, and large. That's so funny. That's
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: how you do it. I pull out the 10-inch, and
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: they be like.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: Wait a minute.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: Thank you, Jodi. This was actually a very fun episode.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Y'all lit. Y'all lit. This is fine. All right, y'all.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: Listen, thank you so much, Jodi.
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  Speaker 3: Let's kick it, Tam.
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• 1:15:46
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