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Austin ICE Shooting: Gregory Bovino Challenges the Media’s Narrative · Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags

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  Speaker 1: If you believe the legacy media, a DoorDash dad was
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  Speaker 1: shot for no reason by ICE in Austin, Texas. We
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  Speaker 1: know that's not true. And then we hear migrant dad.
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  Speaker 1: Then we hear Venezuelan father. Then we hear a man
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  Speaker 1: trying to make a living for his family. A man
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  Speaker 1: who is here legally. A man who came legally. A
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  Speaker 1: man who is allowed to work. We heard all those
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  Speaker 1: things from the legacy media. And they never once said
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  Speaker 1: he's here illegally, came illegally, had a final order of deportation.
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  Speaker 1: and didn't stop, or he did stop, but then took
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  Speaker 1: off when he found out ICE was on his tail.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to get with Gregory Bovino. He's the former U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Border Patrol commander at large. He's the guy who was
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  Speaker 1: the face of the movement to get rid of people
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  Speaker 1: who came here illegally, and then he left the position.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about all that and then some. Greg,
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  Speaker 1: good to see you. How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing good, Joe. It's good to see you also.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty much standard operating procedure for the left media.
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  Speaker 1: They will lie and paint this guy as a poor
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  Speaker 1: guy trying to make some money for his family here legally,
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  Speaker 1: loves the country, loves everybody, has a bullet in his
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  Speaker 1: back that they won't take out. They're not giving him
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  Speaker 1: any pain meds, and he's sleeping on the floor. So
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  Speaker 1: let's just take it from the start. You have an
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  Speaker 1: order to go and get somebody. DHS says this guy
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  Speaker 1: was the target. But others are saying they read his
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  Speaker 1: license plate and they realized the target was there. Either way,
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  Speaker 1: you know that's the guy you want to go and get.
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  Speaker 1: What are you supposed to do? Did they do anything
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  Speaker 1: wrong from what you understand so far in this case?
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  Speaker 2: Joe, from what I've seen, that's standard operating procedure. We
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  Speaker 2: have to remember that this illegal alien, not an Uber
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  Speaker 2: or DoorDash driver, this illegal alien had a final order
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  Speaker 2: of removal. That final order is issued by an immigration judge.
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  Speaker 2: That says do not pass code, do not collect $ 200.
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  Speaker 2: You're going back as soon as we catch you. And
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  Speaker 2: that fact has been grossly overlooked. And when you have
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  Speaker 2: that final order of removal, Joe, you know, you are
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  Speaker 2: a target for ICE. The targeting operations that ICE does,
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  Speaker 2: that is one of the things they look for is
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  Speaker 2: that immigration warrant. Think about a warrant, say, for a
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  Speaker 2: bank robber or a criminal. This is a warrant for immigration,
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  Speaker 2: plain and simple.
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  Speaker 1: And the guy got due process. The argument that he
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  Speaker 1: didn't get due process is bogus. He came here via
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  Speaker 1: the CBP-1, some would say. DHS says he came illegally.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still not sure which one it is. Either way,
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  Speaker 1: he had a certain amount of time to get himself
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  Speaker 1: a legal status. He went through the process and either
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  Speaker 1: didn't show up or was told no when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to asylum. And then the immigration judge, an actual judge
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  Speaker 1: that gives you due process, said, that's it. Final order
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  Speaker 1: of removal. I'm going to sign this. And when somebody
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  Speaker 1: comes in contact with him who's law enforcement, he's got
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  Speaker 1: to go. What am I missing?
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  Speaker 2: Well, exactly. That is the due process. It was actually
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  Speaker 2: more due process, it seems, than an American citizen criminal
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  Speaker 2: would get here in the American system. All kinds of
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  Speaker 2: due process there. We have to remember that most illegal
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  Speaker 2: aliens don't show up for their court hearings. When we
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  Speaker 2: were allowing those millions to come in under Joe Biden,
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  Speaker 2: we knew, the Border Patrol knew, CBP knew, ICE knew,
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  Speaker 2: these tens of millions are not going to show up
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  Speaker 2: for their court hearings. It looks like from initial information
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  Speaker 2: anyway that this individual I believe his name is Wilbur
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  Speaker 2: Perez yes didn't show up for at least one of
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  Speaker 2: those meetings and he was issued that final order of
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  Speaker 2: removal in absentia by that judge.
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  Speaker 1: And that's on him if we believe the DHS case
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  Speaker 1: and I do I think what they say makes sense
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  Speaker 1: we've now seen video of him speeding away from two
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  Speaker 1: cars with lights and sirens on we see this on
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  Speaker 1: video so it appears as though DHS is correct in
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  Speaker 1: what they're saying this guy knew ICE wanted to deport him,
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion. Otherwise, why do you run? They did
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  Speaker 1: stop him. He stopped. They made it clear he was
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  Speaker 1: going to be arrested. Then he takes off and there's
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  Speaker 1: this high speed chase. And now that's what we're getting
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  Speaker 1: from DHS. Can you tell me when it's appropriate to
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  Speaker 1: use the gun? When is it appropriate to use lethal
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  Speaker 1: force to stop the guy? Because in that case, we
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  Speaker 1: don't have the video of him using the car to
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  Speaker 1: run them over. Some say he hit the ice car.
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  Speaker 1: We know the ice vehicle hit him to stop him.
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  Speaker 1: When does it rise to the level of, let's take
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  Speaker 1: out our service weapon and use it to stop the threat?
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned stop the threat. Fantastic use of wordage there, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: It's to stop a threat. A threat from doing what exactly?
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  Speaker 2: That threat that either threatens your life Or the life
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  Speaker 2: of another. It doesn't have to be that police officer
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  Speaker 2: or that immigration officer's life. It can be the life
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  Speaker 2: of a member of the public that's nearby. Also, there's
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  Speaker 2: that part of Lethal Force that talks about grievous bodily injury. Joe,
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  Speaker 2: do you want to have your arm cut off or
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  Speaker 2: your leg crushed by a 2,000-pound missile? I'd rather not.
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  Speaker 2: And no one should have to be subject to that.
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  Speaker 2: So it's loss of life or grievous bodily injury. When
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  Speaker 2: that officer or when that agent believes that his life
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  Speaker 2: or the life of the public's in danger or grievous
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  Speaker 2: bodily injury, that's when that use of force can come
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  Speaker 2: into play. Go ahead. And that, you know, it looks
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  Speaker 2: like that yet again is what has happened here.
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  Speaker 1: Was there confusion? It's Gregory Bravino. Go follow him. Gregory K.
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  Speaker 1: Bravino over on X. And we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: his new venture as well coming up in a little while,
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  Speaker 1: former U.S. Border Patrol commander at large. He was the
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  Speaker 1: face of the movement to get people out of here
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  Speaker 1: who came here illegally under Biden. Is there a consideration
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  Speaker 1: by you in that position, by ICE agents, by CBP,
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  Speaker 1: by anybody? Whether he's here via CBP1. And again, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that he really was. I mean, they're trying
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  Speaker 1: to say that he was, but I'm not sure that
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  Speaker 1: he was. I know the DHS is saying he was
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  Speaker 1: here illegally and came illegally under Biden, but that's still
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  Speaker 1: to be worked out in the wash. Does that matter
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  Speaker 1: to you? And does it matter to you if he's
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  Speaker 1: got a work permit, work authorization? Again, DHS says he didn't.
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  Speaker 1: His lawyer says he did. Does that matter to you
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  Speaker 1: as you're out there enforcing?
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  Speaker 2: It does not. We go by the INA, the Immigration
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  Speaker 2: and Nationality Act. and how he falls within the INA
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  Speaker 2: and other applicable laws, rules, and regulations, that's what we
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  Speaker 2: look at. What is his status at the moment? If
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  Speaker 2: they ran his plate or they already knew he had
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  Speaker 2: a final order of removal, what is his status at
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  Speaker 2: that point? That is what's important. If he's out of status,
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  Speaker 2: if he's an illegal alien, if he has a final
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  Speaker 2: order of removal, then he's subject to arrest. He should
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  Speaker 2: be subject to arrest. Something else here that it seems
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  Speaker 2: the media is overlooking and many there on the left
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  Speaker 2: is Why is a Venezuelan illegal alien working for DoorDash?
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  Speaker 2: Why are these illegal aliens? Does that not alarm the
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  Speaker 2: average American? And I think it does. Why is that
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  Speaker 2: not being talked about? Who are these people that are
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  Speaker 2: delivering your groceries, coming up to your home, near your home,
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  Speaker 2: near your family? We don't know if he's a trained
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  Speaker 2: ARAGWA member. We don't know what his background, was he
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  Speaker 2: arrested or a criminal in his country of origin? We
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  Speaker 2: don't know that. There's a fantastic question that you would
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  Speaker 2: think this out-of-control news media would actually ask, Joe.
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  Speaker 1: This is a great point. I don't want him coming
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  Speaker 1: up to my driveway if we have no idea who
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  Speaker 1: he is, if he hasn't been vetted, and if he's
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  Speaker 1: in the country illegally. But there were reports that he
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  Speaker 1: had a work authorization that expired in 2025. Isn't there
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  Speaker 1: some way that DoorDash or any employer can be notified, hey,
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  Speaker 1: the guy you got working for you no longer has authorization.
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  Speaker 1: There should be a process, should there not?
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  Speaker 2: Well, there should. And these large corporations often know what
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  Speaker 2: the process is. And the reason I can say that
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  Speaker 2: is take a look at the corporate farms there at
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  Speaker 2: and near the U.S. border, the southwest border. They know
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  Speaker 2: what the deal is. Most of their workers, 99.9% of
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  Speaker 2: the time, are legal with the legal required documentation to work.
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  Speaker 2: on those farms or in other industries at or near
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  Speaker 2: the border. But you start getting away from the border
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  Speaker 2: where there's not as many Border Patrol agents and ICE officers,
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  Speaker 2: and they start to fudge that a little bit. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we should hold them accountable. They should hold
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  Speaker 2: themselves accountable because, again, look at all the cases we've
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  Speaker 2: seen of whether it's an Uber driver or, you know,
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  Speaker 2: DoorDash or one of these drivers that harms American citizens
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  Speaker 2: as part of that activity that they're engaged in, that
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  Speaker 2: driving or whatever they're doing, that happens. And they should
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  Speaker 2: not be working for DoorDash or anyone else if they
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  Speaker 2: are an illegal alien. Plus, it takes jobs away from
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  Speaker 2: American citizens. Joe, when we were in Chicago, LA, Charlotte,
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  Speaker 2: New Orleans, we went to the airports. We went to
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  Speaker 2: those locations that many of these Uber drivers and other
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  Speaker 2: types of individuals were seeking in employments. We arrested a
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  Speaker 2: lot of illegal aliens doing that. And very interestingly, American
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  Speaker 2: citizens and some of those legal, legal aliens, the folks
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  Speaker 2: with green cards said, thank you so much. They're destroying
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  Speaker 2: our living wage. We can't get enough fares. We can't
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  Speaker 2: get enough business to stay afloat because illegal aliens like
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  Speaker 2: this DoorDash driver, this Venezuelan illegal alien. They do it
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  Speaker 2: all over the United States in every single state in
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  Speaker 2: our country.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's verifiably true, Greg. I live in South Central Texas.
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  Speaker 1: I live in the San Antonio area. And I know
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  Speaker 1: that the 65% Hispanic market, most of them don't like
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  Speaker 1: illegal immigration because they're here legally or they're American citizens
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  Speaker 1: who were born here who just happen to be Hispanic.
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  Speaker 1: Hispanics by nature don't love illegal aliens, although people like
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  Speaker 1: Greg Kassar act like they do. People like Joaquin Castro
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  Speaker 1: act like they do. When they were putting out the
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  Speaker 1: narrative on this story, They literally said the guy was
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  Speaker 1: driving DoorDash, shot in the back by ice. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: give him any pain meds. They made him sleep on
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  Speaker 1: the floor. They didn't take the bullet out. And here's
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  Speaker 1: a guy who's now holding a news conference via phone
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  Speaker 1: in Spanish. He can't speak English, but he's riling in
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  Speaker 1: pain somehow, but he can still do the news conference.
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  Speaker 1: So when you saw this from the beginning, you've got
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  Speaker 1: a very different perspective than I have, a very different
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  Speaker 1: perspective than anybody watching and listening has because of the
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  Speaker 1: position that you had, a very important position. When you
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  Speaker 1: heard that original narrative, what did you immediately think? There's
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  Speaker 1: no way that happened that way? Or there might be
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  Speaker 1: some veracity to this? What did you think when you
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  Speaker 1: heard all that?
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  Speaker 2: I thought exactly what you said at the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: your program, Joe. Here they go again. Here they're going
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  Speaker 2: to spin yet another DoorDash driver. They didn't say illegal alien.
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  Speaker 2: It's usually the Maryland ad, the DoorDash driver. They start
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  Speaker 2: spinning it immediately. Now, what they won't spin is the
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  Speaker 2: fact that immigration officers, whether it's border patrol agents on
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  Speaker 2: the border or ICE in the interior, one of the
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  Speaker 2: things we're trained in is saving lives. Look at the
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  Speaker 2: thousands of lives saved just by border patrol, those folks
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  Speaker 2: that would have perished coming across the border every single day,
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  Speaker 2: especially in that summer heat. And, you know, that's part
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  Speaker 2: of the mission, just like it is in any police force.
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  Speaker 2: Police save a lot, heck of a lot more lives
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  Speaker 2: than they ever take. And that's glossed over here. When
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  Speaker 2: I heard that, I thought, you know, the very first
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  Speaker 2: thing an ICE officer is going to do when there
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  Speaker 2: is the potential use of lethal force or lethal force
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  Speaker 2: is call for medical attention. ICE is not going to
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: deliver pain medications to a suspect. A doctor or a
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: hospital is going to do that. So right as soon
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  Speaker 2: as I heard that, I thought, you know, this is
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  Speaker 2: absolutely ludicrous. And ICE did a good job in encountering
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  Speaker 2: that narrative. The only problem is when the news media
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  Speaker 2: puts that narrative out first, what they're doing is they're
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  Speaker 2: feeding that rabid leftist base. to commit more acts of violence,
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  Speaker 2: to coalesce in Austin and further attack ICE officers. So
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  Speaker 2: it's not just a lie they're spinning. They're doing something
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  Speaker 2: else that's much more insidious. That is fomenting violence and
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  Speaker 2: anarchy against law enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. They are, and they're doing it
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  Speaker 1: on purpose. Keep in mind, Greg Kassar, This guy is
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  Speaker 1: a U.S. representative from the Austin area. When he was
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  Speaker 1: on the city council in Austin, he took part in
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  Speaker 1: defunding the police by about $ 150 million. And then we
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  Speaker 1: saw the murder rate rise exponentially in Austin. He's the
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  Speaker 1: guy who's the face of this, which makes no sense.
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  Speaker 1: But yesterday, Greg, you probably saw this. If not, I'll
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  Speaker 1: fill you in. He actually took to a microphone and
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  Speaker 1: he said, that's it. Enough is enough. We've got to
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  Speaker 1: get a legal path to a path to legal status
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  Speaker 1: or more importantly, a path to citizenship for all the
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: millions who came here. Now, of course, what he wants
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: is them to vote. He thinks that they're all going
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: to vote Democrat, and that keeps him in power and
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: so on. Is that always the underlying thing that you're
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: dealing with when it comes to politicians? They would love
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  Speaker 1: for them to stay here, because if they do, and
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  Speaker 1: if they get citizenship, they can go and vote for
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  Speaker 1: a Democrat.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, when we talk politicians, and as you know, Joe,
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  Speaker 2: I've been up against a lot of politicians there over
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  Speaker 2: that year, all over the United States. And one thing
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  Speaker 2: that I noticed most of all is, yes, they're looking
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  Speaker 2: for votes and and things like that, but it's also power.
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  Speaker 2: They can retain control of power. It's all about power
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  Speaker 2: to them. It's not about what's doing best for America.
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  Speaker 2: If it was, they would call out the illegal alien
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  Speaker 2: child rapists, bank robbers, DoorDash drivers, and that type of thing,
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  Speaker 2: but they're not. It's all about retaining power. They will
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  Speaker 2: walk over the backs of dead Americans if they can
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  Speaker 2: retain control. some semblance of power or more power or
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  Speaker 2: whatever that's going to do. And, you know, they've turned
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  Speaker 2: their backs on black America in those cities.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: In favor of illegal aliens, all for power. Again, they
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  Speaker 2: will walk over people to retain power. They'll do anything.
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  Speaker 2: I'm convinced at this point, they'll do anything. Right. So
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  Speaker 2: that they can, you know, stay in, stay in office
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: or have some of their friends, you attain office, that
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  Speaker 2: type of thing. Then you've got those lucrative contracts, the
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: lucrative government contracts. It often seems that they are millionaires
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: within two or three years of attaining office. There's something
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: else that, that, that, that comes into play there. And
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  Speaker 2: then also the cheap labor.
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  Speaker 1: A hundred percent. And I think the cheap labor, the
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  Speaker 1: cheap labor is on the right side. Those who are
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: running businesses should be fined. They should be penalized. They
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: should face jail time if you continue to knowingly hire
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: people who are here illegally. That's actually pretty simple. Gregory K.
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  Speaker 1: passing on. Let me finish on the Austin incident. And
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: I call it an incident. I'm not going to call
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: it a shooting because it was a whole lot more
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  Speaker 1: than a shooting. It was a guy who's not supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be here running from police, getting stopped, allegedly using
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: the vehicle as a weapon, and then getting shot. But
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: the body cam video came out, and again, all that
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  Speaker 1: narrative that you and I have been talking about for
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  Speaker 1: the past 10 minutes is true. They all put it
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  Speaker 1: out there as if that was fact, and it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: DHS has dispelled a whole lot of it. But in
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  Speaker 1: watching the body cam video, what do you glean from that?
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  Speaker 1: What do you see from that?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I see somebody that was actively, well, they
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: made a choice. First and foremost, that individual made a choice.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: He made a decision. And that decision was not to
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: do what you're supposed to do when law enforcement is
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: investigating or trying to arrest you, and that's submit to U.S. law.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: That individual made the decision to, well, he tried to
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: get away, but in doing so, another decision was made
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: that put someone else's life in danger. And when you
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: put someone else's life in danger... the consequences of your
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: decisions suddenly become a lot more stark. You're putting yourself
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: into danger. You're putting the public into danger. That's what
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: I see. There is poor decision-making and someone that doesn't
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: seem to want to assimilate into American society. Us as Americans,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: we're not all perfect. But we understand that a law
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: enforcement officer is here because we are a nation of laws.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: The individuals coming here don't seem to want to assimilate
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: to that. And, you know, unfortunately, Joe, they're also being
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: coached by those politicians, the so-called community leaders to resist ICE,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: resist Border Patrol, resist law enforcement. as if that's some
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: type of a solution that's going to create a positive outcome.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: And we all know that's not going to be the case.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's sedition when you've got an AOC
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: putting out a video on how to avoid ice and
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: not get caught. When you've got Gavin Newsom doing the same,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: other idiots on the left doing the same. I think
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: it's sedition. They should be held up on charges. It
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: probably won't happen, but it should be. Let me switch
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: to the operations that you were the tip of the
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: spear on. I'm going to say it, and then you
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: can tell me if I'm right or wrong. I think
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: the operation in Minneapolis was a vast, crazy success. You
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: guys arrested 3,000 or 4,000 people, got them out of
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the community, made the community safer. Yes, you got two situations.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Renee Good, who clearly runs her vehicle into an ICE
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: agent and loses her life. Alex Preddy, that one's still
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: being studied. The CBP does stuff, but he definitely jumped
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: in and started interfering in the ICA or the CBP
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: agent doing something. We'll find out about that one. Those
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: two cases aside, and again, nobody wants to see Americans die,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: but if they put themselves in harm's way, it might happen.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I find that what you did in Minneapolis was very successful.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Am I wrong about that?
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: It was successful. I think that it would have been
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: more successful had we seen it to the end. And
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: then put all 800 Border Patrol agents that showed up
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: there in Minneapolis towards the immigration mission. Yes, we got
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of criminals off the streets. ICE and Border Patrol,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: a whole lot, did a lot of great work there.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: But there was a lot more to be done. And
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: as Americans, we like to see things through to the
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: end and do things right. I think that there was
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: more and still is more to do in Minneapolis, as
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: well as across America.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: And I just want to make sure that I'm clear
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: on this. When you go in and you do an
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: operation like that, if the police chief and the mayor
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: and the governor, lieutenant governor, and the attorney general all said, yes, Greg,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: we're going to help you. We're going to help you
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: get this done. Go get the bad guys. You don't
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: have to have all those agents in town because if
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: they're handing you from jail to you guys, that's simple.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make the news headlines. If you, if you dust,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: if you tell people, take out your camera and start
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: videotaping ice and CBP agents and follow Bovino anywhere he goes.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Now you're starting trouble on purpose. Am I right that
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: this could have been so much easier had they just said, yeah,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: let's get the bad guys out?
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, because concurrently with Minneapolis, we were also in a
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: place called New Orleans.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: And New Orleans, that is exactly what happened in New
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Orleans and to some extent in North Carolina. A lot
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: of good law enforcement there in North Carolina as well,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: but New Orleans, total support from state and locals. We
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: actually had Border Patrol agents and police officers riding in
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: the same vehicles. The amount of self-deportations there in the
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: New Orleans area and greater Louisiana was astounding because we
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: had lockstep support from the state and locals, and there
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: was no violence. There was one act of violence within
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: about 30 days. One. Now, contrast that with Minnesota. As
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: soon as we get on the ground, it starts. As
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: soon as we get on the ground, the violence starts. And,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: you know, why they can't look at that model and say, well, gosh,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: there was absolutely no violence in Louisiana. Border Patrol is,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: in fact, going after illegal aliens, criminal illegal aliens and
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: illegal aliens. And the self-deportations are at that rate that
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: we need to rid the country of illegal aliens. Why
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: that has not been looked at and studied, it's rarely mentioned.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: You're one of the only ones to mention it, Joe, is... Hey,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: there's your code book for success right there in New Orleans.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: We were there for a month, about one act of
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: violence that I can remember, and that was actually pretty mean.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: And that's why you didn't make headlines, because you guys
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: were able to do the job, because you got the
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: cooperation that you deserved. It's Gregory K. Bovino over on X.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Go and check him out. Get commanders. What is it? Commanders-choice.com.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Go and get the new beverage as well. Let me
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: ask you about mass deportations. The number one topic for
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: many voters in 2024 was, let's get rid of those
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: who came here illegally under Biden. close the border, make
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: it secure, make it safe. The number one issue for
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: some others was the economy. But if that was one
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: or two, was the border. Are we still doing mass deportations?
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like we are, but we're being told
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: that we are. What's the status of that?
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Joe, no, we're not. Mass deportations are not occurring now.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: When you target or conduct worst of the worst deportation operations,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: that is one small tactic Mass deportations is total spectrum
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: immigration enforcement. That means everything brought to bear against transnational
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: criminal organizations, illegal aliens, the whole enterprise. And it's great,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: you know, targeting the worst of the worst and child rape.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: That's great. But that's barely scratching the surface. You have
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: to bring the fight to the illegal aliens throughout society
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: because we need those self-deportations. Joe, we have to have
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: self-deportations because there are so many tens of millions of
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: illegal aliens. It's going to be very difficult to put
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: cuffs on every single one of them. So our strategy
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: in the Border Patrol was create the mechanism for self-deportations.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: That's why you saw two million self-deportations there while we
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: were conducting this large-scale immigration. operations. So right now, targeting
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: the worst of the worst, great. It's a great tactic,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: but it's not mass deportations. It's not going to remove
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: tens of millions of illegal aliens. To do that, you need, again,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: total spectrum immigration enforcement, not only going into the cities
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: in all aspects, but going after remittances, bank accounts, anything
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: we can do to make it uncomfortable or impossible for
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: any illegal alien to to live in, be, or operate
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: inside the United States. Leave, do it the right way,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: come back at some point the right way, and that's
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: what we're after. But right now, you can't have 100
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: million illegal aliens running around with impunity in the United States.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Look at our gas prices, our housing, our affordability, all
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: the things that come with that many illegal aliens, our
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: resource destruction, natural resource destruction, water usage, you name it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Everything is downstream. of illegal immigration in the United States today.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Mass deportations, we can start it tomorrow and it will
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: solve just about every single problem that we've got in
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: the United States today.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Former border patrol commander at large is Gregory K. Bovino.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I thought you did a great job in all of
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: those cities. The ones we didn't hear about, obviously they cooperated.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: The ones that we did hear about didn't. When it
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: comes to mass deportations, the lie of the left is this.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: They are arresting, ICE is arresting, 50% of the people
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: that they're arresting have no criminal record. And I'm going, okay, well, A,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: they could be charged with something and still have no
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: criminal record. B, if they came across the border illegally,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: that is a crime. It's a federal statute, 8 U.S.C. 1325.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: If you're sent back and you come back, that's 1326.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: That's a felony. So the idea that they're selling to
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: the American public that you're just arresting DoorDash dads and
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: you're just going after people that aren't the worst of
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the worst, that's really not true. I mean, some of
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: these people have been charged with heinous crimes yet haven't
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: been adjudicated yet. Therefore, they don't have a criminal record, right?
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: That's true. And then also the crimes that they've committed
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: that we don't even know about in the countries of origin.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: There's something there that is completely lost. We've got some
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: real criminals that come in. Sometimes we find out about
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: it two or three years later with the Interpol red
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: notices and things like that. But yes, you're right. First
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: and foremost, they're all criminals. And what the left also
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: doesn't seem to mention that is very important for your
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: viewers is Those immigration crimes, many of those are felonies.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: They try not to count that as a crime. They're saying, oh,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: you know, it's got to be a murder, a rape,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: you know, something crazy. Well, you know, when you smuggle
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: illegal aliens, you smuggle narcotics, you engage in human trafficking,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: child trafficking, and many of those other immigration related crimes,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: or you reenter after an official deportation, that's a felony.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of significant crimes out there that are
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: immigration related that they don't want to count there as
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: far as significant crimes. Now, as far as the border
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: patrol is concerned, when we were in those cities, everybody
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: gets it. Everyone gets it because remember, when everyone gets it,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: self-deportations rise.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Exactly right. It's Gregory Capovino over on X. Go to commanders-choice.com.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you about what's happening on the border now.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I know that you're still in contact with people. Obviously,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: you've got the inside scoop. I was surprised to see
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: this in my notes. The cartels are sending hundreds of
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: drones over our border. They're doing that on the regular.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Why aren't we hearing about this?
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: The drone situation has been, Border Patrol has known about
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the drone situation for a long time now. And, you know,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to get too much into some of
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: the more secured aspects. But there is some good anti-drone
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: activity going on on the border as well. But, you know, drones,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: that's the wave of the future, Joe. I mean, look
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: what's happening in Ukraine and the Ukraine-Russian war. That's just
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: about all drones. And I think the cartels aren't stupid.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: They're having a very difficult time because of what President
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Trump's done on the border. That border is getting bolstered
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: more every single day due to President Trump. And in
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: talking with some agents just yesterday, there does seem to
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: be a sense of desperation amongst the cartels. It's never
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: been this hard for a cartel to push products. And remember,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: they push people across the border now also because people
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: are just about as lucrative as drugs. There's a sense
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: of desperation. So you probably will see an increase in
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: drones and anything else they can bring. Remember, a cartel
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: or a smuggler will do anything they can to make
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: a buck. They're not idealists. They're greed based. And they're
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: going to try to make that buck, bringing anything across
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: that border they can in any fashion that they can.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: But again, we've got the U.S. military on the border
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: as well. Let's not forget about that. Active duty troops
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: on the border working hand in hand with the U.S.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Border Patrol's fantastic troops. I mean, highly trained. They've got
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: anti-drone technology. Our intelligence resources are growing by the day, again,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: due to President Trump. So the border is, you know,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: we're doing good there. It's just that interior enforcement piece
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: that I think that we need to bolster up because remember,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: if they get past Border Patrol on the border, what
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: you don't want is, hey, we're free now. We're free.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: We're going to be in the interior. There's not going
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: to be any interior enforcement or mass deportations. What is
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: that going to do? It's going to create caravans. It's
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: going to create that sense of, hey, let's just make
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: it past the mean green team and we're good, drones included.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: So we've got to have the interior piece. When you
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: have both of those working together, That border is virtually
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: impossible to cross, and people aren't even going to try it.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: And that's what we want to do is just prevent
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: them from trying it in the first place.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: We shut down billions of dollars of cartel activity, clearly. Drugs,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: human trafficking, sex trafficking, all that on the southern border. Greg,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I used to work in Albany's Connected Detroit, New York.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: That's not far from the northern border. They're not stupid.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Like you said, they're not going to just say, I
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: don't want the money anymore. Are they going that route?
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Are they going all the way around the United States
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: and coming in through Canada? And how secure is that border?
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Sure. Northern border, it's always an outlet that they're going
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: to try, whether that's pushing special interest aliens through the
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: northern border or drugs. So yes, they're going to try it.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: And We've got some good border patrol agents and some
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: excellent intelligence there on the northern border as well. There's
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: vast stretches of the northern border, absolutely out in the
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: middle of nowhere. But sometimes that works to our advantage.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: A lot of people think, well, gosh, you know, North
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Dakota and Montana, they could just come across the border
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: anywhere there. Well, they also are affected by lack of infrastructure.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: lack of roads, lack of access to get into the country.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Our border patrol agents know that and they they use
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: that to their advantage. So northern border, definitely some concerns there.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Some of the Indian reservations there, especially in New York, Swanton, Sector, Vermont,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Salt A lot of traffic there over Biden as much
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: as some southwest border sectors did. Talked to the chief
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: up there quite a bit. And it's definitely a concern,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: but it's something that we're well aware of. And once
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: those intelligence indicators let us know that something big or
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: something different or some type of change is occurring there
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: on the northern border, we do have the ability to
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: move resources to the northern border. Coastal borders, Joe, there's
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: another concern. thing we need to watch very closely, that
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: boatload of Chinese that came a couple of days ago.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: You may have heard of that. Those red Chinese, those
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: communists were coming in on a boat. And remember, they're
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: not going to come if they think there's a lot
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: of interior enforcement. Why is that boat actually even out
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: in the water right now? Let's ramp up the interior enforcement. And,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: you know, especially the Chinese, they're very attuned. to immigration enforcement.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Do we have any idea during Biden how many came
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: from communist China? How many came from Iran that hates us?
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: How many came from Yemen that might be Houthis? Do
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: we have any clue? I mean, it just, I get
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the feeling that there are a lot of them here,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: but we have no idea how many.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: We don't because 80% of the border was wide open
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: for four years under Joe Biden. Think about that. 80%
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: of the Southwest border from California all the way to Galveston, Texas, 80%
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: of that entire border was wide open. And there is
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: no telling how many or what came through across that
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: border in those four years. Now, what we do know
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: is a lot of Chinese came and a lot of
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: special interest aliens from around the world. Remember, this was
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: not a Mexico problem. This was not a Central American problem.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: This was a worldwide immigration or illegal immigration problem. And
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I know from I was there in El Centro sector
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: early on during COVID. And then COVID obviously transitioned into
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: the Biden catastrophe. Right. The Chinese tried us there. They
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: certainly tried us there. Now, we hit them hard. We
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: hit those red Chinese really hard in El Centro. That
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: didn't stop them from coming across at different places in
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: the border. Because in talking to the other chiefs, they're saying, man,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: we're getting hit by Chinese like you wouldn't believe right now.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: So they just went from my sector to another sector.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: But a lot. Let me just say the number, a lot. Yeah.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: And you're not wrong. And the fact that we can't
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: put a number bothers me. And the fact that we
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: didn't vet so many of them who are special interest
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: aliens bothers me. And it didn't bother Mayorkas. And it
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: didn't bother Biden. And whatever. Because they don't love the
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: country like you and I do. Last question. Thanks for
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: all the time. And I'm going to ask you directly.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I'm hearing rumors. Are you thinking about possibly running in
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: 28 for president?
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I am. But that all revolves around mass deportations. You know,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: our country... hangs in the balance now, Joe, as you know.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm on your show right now. Yes. And
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: we better get those mass deportations started. And that's my
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: life's work. When I signed my life away on the
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: dotted line, that was what it was all about, was
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: this country. And if that means, if that's the mechanism
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: to get those mass deportations, you better believe I will.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: You better believe it. And if I do decide to
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: do it, it's on like Donkey Kong.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you something. I love your
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: attitude about the border. I love your attitude about your
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: love of America. And I think a lot of people
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: out there would like to know what your next step
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: is going to be. And I think they would like
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you to be involved on some level. If it's president,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: let's see. Greg, I appreciate you taking the time. Go
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: to commanders-choice.com. Go check out his venture there. Go follow him,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Gregory K. Bovino over on X. I appreciate your friendship.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you making yourself available to my audience again.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Let's do it again soon, my man. Thank you.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Let's do it, Joe. Thank you and God bless.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: God bless.