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15 % off for premium membership. And the finals
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are set for both sports, both NHL and NBA. Both
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kind of had semi -electric conference finals,
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but now we're down to the final two. We're down
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to the final two. Chris, how are you doing? Where's
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your mentality at right now? I'm doing it's Pacers
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fan. Yeah, I mean, what's there to complain about?
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Pacers are in the finals of Vols, just advanced
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to super regionals in baseball. It's really good
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over here at the Walker household in terms of
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sports that I barely care about. So things are
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looking up right here, betting wise, just trading
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off great days and awful days in baseball. So
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Just kind of riding that wave but um overall
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the vibes are very high because hopefully walking
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out with One one of these teams can get a ring
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and that would just add another one to my my
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collection But uh, yeah things are good Sean,
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how are you doing? Pretty good before we started
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I made an executive decision to place five units
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on the Oilers to win the Stanley Cup. Minus 12
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-20. I had to get in on it. I know I didn't get
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it as good of odds as you will in October this
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season, but... Fair. McDavid's going to win a
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cup eventually. Why not this year? He's got it.
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After... You know, we say, how you doing? I'm
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hoping you can walk us through the mentality
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that we talked about a couple days ago, because
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I think it's a pretty good mentality to have.
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Yes, of course. I will happily walk you through
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this. So, since I've already had this conversation
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with you, Sean, the other day, I'm going to have
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this with Chris. So, Chris. Well, how are you
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doing, Will? Are you doing okay? I'm great. I
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I'm writing out a future a year -long future
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for the second year in a row And vibes are vibes
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are very good right now Oilers my adopted playoff
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team They are they're in the final against the
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the Florida Panthers Panthers look unstoppable,
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but this oilers team They're just There this
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is destiny. This is destiny and let me get into
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that. So Chris Yes, I'm gonna Just okay. So this
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is the second year in a row that we have a this
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is this is the third time that we have had a
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Stanley Cup final playoff rematch, okay in the
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finals Can you name the other two times? It's
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okay if you don't I was gonna explain it either
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way One of those pretty easy Is it? I'm sure
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I'm sure one is incredibly easy. I just I don't
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know All right, just so I don't sit here for
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a few minutes looking like a dumbass just and
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I okay Can I do one? Can I do one sure? All right.
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So the most recent rematch was a rematch that
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cannot happen again. It was the Pittsburgh Penguins
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versus the Detroit Red Wings. Sid, Sidney Crosby's
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first cup the second time around. I assumed it
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was either Pittsburgh and someone or Chicago
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and someone, but I couldn't, I couldn't make
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an error. I would have never guessed Pittsburgh,
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Detroit, because like you said, it can never
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happen again. So I wouldn't have even thought
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it never happened. Cause both are in the East
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now. So, but the other one, Will I'll let you
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take this right so the most recent one Detroit
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and Pittsburgh await Detroit wins Pittsburgh
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loses the first time Sidney Crosby was in the
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Stanley Cup final come back next year rematch
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Sidney Crosby knows what needs to be done and
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wins His Stanley Cup his first Stanley Cup Because
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he was the next one Now we go all the way back
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to the 80s the first time that Wayne Gretzky
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was in the Stanley Cup final He was playing against
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the New York Islanders and he fucking lost Then
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they rematch again the next year somewhere in
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the 80s. I don't remember that the year And Wayne
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Gretzky knows what he needs to do To win his
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Stanley Cup and he wins his Stanley Cup I think
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this is this is Connor McDavid's moment and if
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it's not this is the universe playing a cruel
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cruel joke And that's how I that's how I see
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it. It's it's it's cosmic. It's cosmic in a way
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It's it's just like this is destined to happen
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have this rematch against A formidable foe that
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you faced before. You know what needs to be done.
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Some would say this Florida team is better than
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the one from last year. Some would say the Red
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Wings 09 team was better than the Red Wings 08
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team. Some would say that. And some would even
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say about the same thing about that Islanders
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team. But they didn't go back to back because
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they were facing the great one. the next one
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and then this next one up. I mean, I don't hate
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that logic. That's I think it's I think it's
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worth putting at least five units on at least
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at least just just so I feel better about it.
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I mean, that's what I did. Right. So that is
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this is sort of my mentality. It's it's kind
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of like Connor McDavid he he can't lose this
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one He he can't do it. This is I hope I hope
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he doesn't You hope he doesn't win I Hope he
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doesn't lose. No this one Yeah, you hope yes
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Well now you're you have a financial stake in
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it. So I yeah, I understand Well, I I have a
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financial stake in it now but overall like I
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hope I hope in my lifetime that I see Connor
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McDavid lift a cup, honestly. That's the truth.
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Yes. So, yes. I mean, obviously he's going to
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win it this year. That's just... Obviously. Obviously.
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It's set in stone, really. Hypothetically, he
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doesn't. Is this kind of like his last chance,
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like in this window with the Oilers, or? No.
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Like, do you think he... If somehow you don't
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know, I don't think so. Okay. I think as long
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as he alive, I think he still has a chance. No,
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I meant like in this, like how open, how open
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is the oilers window right now? If like, if they
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don't win, is it, I don't want to say a lot because
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it's very hard to get back, especially three
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years in a row, but would they, would it be a
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shock if they ended up back next year? No, I
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think Yeah, I think max windows open for two
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years after this Okay, it wouldn't be a shock
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if they if they came back Next year I feel like
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if they came back next year definitely be a taller
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task then it was from this year, but At the same
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time they Zach Hyman went out with an injury
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and he's done for the season. So that's a big
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loss But they got back at home to sure up the
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D. So That's a that's a huge Huge huge addition
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that they that they added for for the for the
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oilers. So that's that's kind of where where
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I'm at And if they don't win then Next year it'll
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be three units on the Oilers at the beginning
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of the season to win the Cup. And you know what?
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It's good. Good financial investment. What are
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you staring at, Chris? You're muted. Yeah, he
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knows. The cat had gotten into some chips. I
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thought I heard some crunching. I didn't, I knew
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he was like messing with something. I didn't
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know it was food. I thought it was like a pillow
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or some sort of toy. Like I could hear him, but
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I couldn't, he was on the floor. I could, he
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was blocked and the code came out and got mad.
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Snatched him up. Yeah. But I think as long as
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dry side all and McDavid are on a team I think
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their windows pretty open. Yeah, I think I think
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if it's those two on a team The windows gonna
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be propped up Yeah, they're as long as those
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two together the windows will never be closed
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there might be varying degrees of how open the
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window is but It's it's never closed, you know,
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so That's kind of it, I mean. Real quick, so
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there have been three Stanley Cup rematches back
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to back. Chris, Will, you already know the answer
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because I think I told you. Chris, can you name
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the only NFL rematch back to back? Back to back?
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Yeah. I think it's pretty easy if you think about
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it. It probably is. I'm so bad at this stuff.
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How recent is it? 90s. 90s? Is it Bill's Cowboys?
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It is Bill's Cowboys. You got it. Yeah, it's
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pretty easy if you think about it. Yeah. Yeah,
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I figured it had to be one of the Bills, but
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I was like, yeah, I know that played the Cowboys,
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Giants. I can't remember the third team, but
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I was like, okay, well, I definitely can't remember
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four. So it has to be one of them. And I knew
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the Cowboys were in their dynasty. Wasn't it
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Giants twice? Wasn't it? I think it was like
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Giants, Cowboys, Cowboys, Giants or something,
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something stupid like that. That wouldn't surprise
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you. I'm going to Google that real quick. Has
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there ever been like, is there a hockey equivalent
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of the bill? Cause I was thinking about that
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before Sean asked this question. Is there like,
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has there been a team to make back to back? Cup
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finals and lose them both or more than two in
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a row Aside from like when there was only six
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teams because that yeah. Yeah, that doesn't count
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That is a That's an interesting question. I think
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well No Shit No, I don't I don't think so. I
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mean we could probably look it up but But not
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that off the top of my head now that I'm Okay.
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I Googled back -to -back Stanley Cup final losses
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and Google's like AI overview. It says the Edmonton
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the Oilers have lost the Stanley Cup final and
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back -to -back years losing to the Florida Panthers
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in 2024 and 2025. Let's not get ahead of ourselves
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Google. It's rigged. The script was leaked. Oh,
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the script. Oh my God. Dude, that just put a
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sour taste in my mouth. All right, well. Well,
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real quick, I Googled the bill Superballist.
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It was Giants, Redskins, Cowboys, Cowboys. OK,
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so it is it is an FC. Yes. But. Oh, yes. While
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you all were talking and giving your phenomenal
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explanations of why you're put a financial stake
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in the Oilers, I went ahead. I just do a half
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unit on Oilers and seven plus three ninety because.
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I want the boys to win and I also want to be
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entertained. So, Oilers and so on. Okay. I think
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it's going to be a tight series. Yeah. Also,
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yeah, because Florida is just, is amazing. So,
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like if they, if honestly, if they won in six,
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like Edmonton, I would be kind of surprised.
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So. I was pretty surprised that the Oilers were
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minus 120 to win the championship, to win the
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series, like to win it all. Like they are, they
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are favored to win the cup. That's pretty wild
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to me. Thought they'd be like if they were favored.
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I thought they'd be like plus 100 Or something
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like that. Yeah, like maybe minus 15 like yeah
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like something Yeah You had to be 120. I was
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I was very surprised I was surprised their favorite
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there minus 130 in game one, honestly, and I'm
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probably I'm probably gonna take that Yeah, I
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mean it's super hard to go back to back in hockey.
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I mean there's I mean there's really hasn't been
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a ton of teams to do it, honestly. Um, so it's
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like, I, I get the oilers being favorite favored
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just because I mean, like the, the history shows
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that back to backs don't happen. So that's, that's
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just my thinking about it, but, um, but yeah,
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that makes sense. Um, let's see. So what are
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your predictions? Like how many games both of
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y 'all for the Probably seven years seven. I
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yeah, I think I actually think seven is accurate.
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All right Yeah, well, I was gonna list off odds
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of the other ones that you suggest that you like
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but We can all three agree on others and seven.
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I mean I six would be the most Logical besides
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seven to me. I don't think it'll be It's not
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gonna be a runaway in five or a sweep at all.
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I think six, I would probably bet seven just
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for fun, but six would make sense as well. Yeah,
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shy away from six just because it is hard to
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force that game seven back against the wall.
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Six is plus 490. If you either y 'all were wondering.
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Interesting. Okay. Think about it. So we got
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Hill. Oh shit. Well, by the time this comes out,
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yeah, by the time this comes out, game one will
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be already done. So we're going to look like
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fools. Florida's going to be like six to nothing.
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It's just game one. Doesn't matter. That's true.
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The Oilers can come back. Can't win it. Yeah.
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Can't win in seven if you don't lose three. Right.
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So down three, nothing. Tied it at three. Lost
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in game seven, rough, rough one. Yeah, that was
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rough. That was a roller coaster of a season.
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Yeah. But but yeah, I mean, I think that's I
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don't know, that's kind of it for hockey. I mean,
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pretty cut and dry. I mean, the Hurricanes, I
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mean, just. Rolled over, I guess, I don't know,
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like I wouldn't say rolled over, but they just
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were just. Totally overpowered. in that uh in
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that series like them winning that was it game
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five or whatever or game four or game four yeah
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um that was like their first we might have spoke
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about this last week um yeah we did okay well
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i won't but they were they were asleep at the
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wheel like they weren't um they yeah they didn't
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i don't think they rolled over but they were
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kind of asleep at the wheel yeah and i watched
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the first part of that game and carolina went
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up to nothing um that uh that that elimination
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game um and i was like okay they might uh they
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might pull this out nope nope florida they just
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put on their hard hats and go to work um but
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yeah that's um i mean that's how dallas stars
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lose Good fuck them. I Hope they're never good
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again, uh And I was actually listening to a podcast
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today and like they have like six Great players
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that have contracts that are expiring That they're
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definitely not gonna be able to resign Hate oh,
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well hate to hate hate to see it. Yeah, so fuck
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them But but yeah, that's that's that Chris Take
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away Pacers talk. I Mean, what do you want to
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know? They're the most fun team to ever exist
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in the NBA like this when they're rolling their
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electric there it's just They just run the entire
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time. Like there's twice in game six, yes, six,
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um, against the Knicks where the Knicks made
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a shot. So the Pacers had to in mount it from
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their baseline and they still scored on a fast
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break. That, how, how does that happen? Because
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of the fucking Indiana. They're just, yeah, they
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just run constantly is when they're like on,
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it is so much fun to watch. It's just steal fast
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break, lay up, kick out for a three. Uh, it's
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it's electric basketball. And I mean, Oklahoma,
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Oklahoma City Thunder are a much better team
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on paper. Like obviously they have the MVP. They
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have just been boat racing teams, I guess that
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aren't named the nuggets, but still, I mean,
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they're a very good defensive team, but the Pacers,
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I mean, if they can get hot, they could win four
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games. Do I think it realistically? Do I think
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it'll happen? No. I mean, Oklahoma city is minus
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700 to win the damn thing for a reason, but which
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isn't sane, but very insane. They have a shooter's
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chance. So I think sprinkling, I think they're
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five, 10 something, five 90 or five 30. Uh, I'm,
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I threw a half unit on that. I already have a
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half unit on plus seven 50 a place before the
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conference finals. So You can't count this team
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out. They've made three of the most historic
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comebacks in NBA history in this playoff run
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alone. So you can never count them out. But I,
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I question how much they have left in the tank
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after that New York series, just cause it was
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New York, like after I obviously was three one
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at one point, but then they play like shit in
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game five. So you're like, Oh shit. Like are
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the Knicks gonna like make a, you're going to
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complete it. Epic comeback. They didn't obviously.
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Um, I don't know. I just, I'm very happy that
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they made it this far. And if they win the whole
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thing, that'd be phenomenal. But I don't know.
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But like I said, they have a shooter's chance.
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So it is the NBA. And I mean, any team can win
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on any given day. Yeah. And I mean, Oklahoma
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city, I know I said all about their defense.
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Their offense is great too. I mean, SGA MVP.
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Jalen Williams is good. Both of them. Chet Holmgren's
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great. It's just, but I mean, Indiana's good.
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I just keep, every time I think like, Oh, okay.
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So he's so good. It's like, well, everyone was
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saying that about New York too. And Indiana,
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aside from like really one game, game five kind
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of whooped them. Cause game five, they play like
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shit. Every other game they were either in it
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or just. or New York choked it away or they dominated.
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So I don't know. My mind, my mind's kind of in
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a pretzel right now, if you can't tell, but it's
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a battle between my heart and my, and my brain
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and my heart's probably going to win. Cause my
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brain's not that good. Yeah, that's, that's,
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um, that's interesting. I, uh, I was actually
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listening to a podcast on the way home from work
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and they were, uh, they were talking and they
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were like, So from January 1st up until the playoffs,
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both of these teams have been the best teams
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record wise in the NBA. And so it's kind of like,
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well, I mean, the two best teams, you know, and
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it's like a lot of the times you can't say that
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for for any any really finals run. You just kind
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of get hot at the at the right time and anything
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can happen. but But no, these are the two best
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teams and these are also two of the smallest
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markets, which is fun Fantastic objectively.
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I think it's very fun the first time It's either
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the first time ever the first time in a long
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time that neither team in the NBA finals are
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in the luxury tax. Oh Yeah, that's insane the
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Pacers have never in franchise history been the
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luxury tax and The Thunder have only been like
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a couple of times back when they had like obviously
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like Katie and Harden and then, uh, what's his
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name? Uh, Paul George and Chris Paul. Yeah. Russell
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Westbrook. So yeah, but this is the best. And
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I've seen, I mean, there's been some Twitter
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discourses. NBA Twitter is the worst. It rivals
24:20
like wrestling Twitter of just being Nobody in
24:24
this space likes the actual product. It's all
24:27
just bitching and moaning. But NBA Twitter hates
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that it's too small market teams. Fuck them.
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This is going to be electric. It is pretty handily
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the two best teams left. You can't really, you
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can't really make an argument about that. So
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it's going to be electric. I think it goes, I
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think it goes six, regardless of who wins at
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least. That's um that luxury tax thing that's
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that's that's interesting because it's like Oklahoma
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City like you know, they're they're heavy hitters
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are like Fucking 22 like they haven't even like
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kids. Yeah, they haven't even like Exceeded their
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like entry level or whatever. Yeah, I mean this
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is Like could potentially be the start of an
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Oklahoma City dynasty with the like how young
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this team is Yeah, this take has been said many
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times but this is probably the worst Okc team
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we will see for a very long time if it all plays
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out everyone stays healthy. Yeah, probably. Yeah,
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and that's scary. Yeah Just because like I mean
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They still have like three first -round picks
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three additional first -round picks For the next
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three years or something. So, I mean that could
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use them and drafts some really fucking good
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players or trade them for a really fucking good
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player. So, yeah, SGA is getting a getting a
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buddy probably next year. Yeah. And that's scary.
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So maybe it's better fucking win this one because
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I don't know. I don't know when when they're
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going to get another shot. Another shot. Yeah.
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OK. OK. Good. Since I was in, like, high school.
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I mean or like I graduated high school and they
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were like one of the best, you know, they never
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won but like They made to the conference. They
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made it's the heat. Yeah. Yeah LeBron heat. Yeah.
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Yeah, they were they were on it when I was in
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high school, but since then They had a couple
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good teams with like sure but I'll enjoy Oh,
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yeah, nothing like that. Sure. Yeah, but yeah.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But yeah and I
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know this has been beaten to death on Twitter,
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but we haven't had a chance to talk about it.
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It's the Paul George finals. Neither of these
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teams would be here without Paul George. It's
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phenomenal. Yeah. Paces trade Paul George to
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the Thunder for Victor Oladipo and Demontes Sabonis.
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Sabonis goes to Sacramento for Halliburton. Thank
27:07
you for that. And then the Thunder trade Paul
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George to the Clippers for SGA. a couple other
27:15
guys and a fuck ton of picks and the thunder
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dynasty is bored. What? Well, most likely become
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a dynasty is born. So, so honorary rain either
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way. Probably. I mean, yeah, something like that.
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He'll probably find some way to somehow take
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credit, which is, yeah, I mean, means Sixers
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next up. You just got to trade them. Yeah. I
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mean, That's the secret. Great Paul George, that's
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how you make the finals. God, Paul George has
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been on a lot of teams. Those Pacers, Paul George
27:54
teams, man, if LeBron wasn't in the East, those
28:00
couple of years, those teams are really fucking
28:02
good. It's so funny how everything is just affected
28:08
by LeBron or LeBron affects everything. I mean
28:12
he's played for 50 years. Going back to high
28:19
school. He played before I was in high school.
28:22
I hate that so much. You can even go back to
28:29
the 90s when MJ was during their dynasty. There's
28:35
a reason Reggie Miller never got a ring or Patrick
28:38
Ewing or Charles Barkley. Or fucking Karl Malone
28:42
and John Stockton like that's That's it's cuz
28:47
of Mike like I hate that the whole like Charles
28:51
Barclays never won a ring It's like such a meme
28:53
now because of Shaq and it is funny Chuck was
28:56
such a good basketball player He's phenomenal.
28:59
Yeah, I know that's like I feel like he doesn't
29:01
really get his flowers because Shaq always clowns
29:04
over never winning a ring And yes, it does objectively
29:07
is funny But it's he was such a good player.
29:10
And then MJ just never. I mean, it was the same
29:14
thing as LeBron, just he kept a lot of guys from.
29:19
Reaching the mountaintop because he was he was
29:22
phenomenal. Yeah, I mean, like the thing with
29:26
with Chuck, I mean, like he's he's like one of
29:30
the best power forwards ever, like in the history
29:34
of basketball. He's he's on he's up there. but
29:40
like all the teams he was on like he was on the
29:45
you could draft it by the sixers and like the
29:47
sixers were like fucking ancient and like by
29:50
the time that he was in his prime he was like
29:52
all right i only got like a couple more years
29:53
of this can you trade me to like a better team
29:56
and they traded him to the sons and the sons
30:00
are were only like slightly better and like he
30:05
brought them to the finals And so like, I don't
30:09
know that that is a testament to how good he
30:11
is, but also like, it wasn't dealt a very good
30:15
hand, but you know, and then you play with what
30:19
you're given, you know, played on that rocket
30:21
steam with Pippen. That was like, what are we
30:23
doing here? Yeah, that was, uh, he was, he got
30:29
really fat at that point too. I mean, he was
30:31
kind of, he was on the tail end of his career
30:34
at that point. Yeah. He was always kind of kind
30:38
of chunky, but you know, that's that was his
30:39
game. You know, it's how he so we got in the
30:42
paint round to rebound. That's right. But yeah,
30:49
didn't mean for Chuck to catch some strays. I
30:52
know he's a big fan of the show. I think we are
30:55
confident. I think I think. Well, I also think
30:59
he's used to catching some strays. He's used
31:02
to catching direct shots. He's all right. Shaq
31:08
will sit directly across from him and say, you
31:10
are terrible. Which RIP inside the NBA. Yeah,
31:19
officially done. Damn. Yeah, brutal. They should
31:25
do like a podcast or something. They should do
31:27
it. Just like keep it going for money. For money.
31:33
I know Chuck's going to NBC. I don't know about
31:35
Shaq or Ernie. I think might be done, but done,
31:41
done. He's been with TNT for eight. He's just
31:46
been around forever. So I think if he decides
31:49
to retire, I don't think anyone would be shocked.
31:53
And I don't know about Kenny. Kenny Kenny was
31:57
gifted this position. Yeah, no offense Kenny,
32:01
but um Kenny he's good trace Kenny. Yeah, Kenny's
32:06
good, but I mean he he could be Probably almost
32:11
anyone else with like some sort of charisma Well,
32:15
if anyone's gonna start a podcast, it's probably
32:18
Kenny because he probably needs it Okay, he's
32:22
not like homeless He played the NBA for a long
32:27
time. He needs to do something. That's what I'm
32:29
saying. I mean, I agree. He probably will. But
32:34
let's not act like he's broke. No, I'm not saying
32:38
he's broke, but, you know, throwing it back to
32:40
last week, John Robinson started podcast. Do
32:44
you think he needs the money? I don't think so,
32:47
but. I'm just saying, I mean, he might let his
32:51
job. Yeah. Yeah, he's actually he's I know he
32:55
said he's we can't nobody wants to hire him Kenny's
33:00
decent, but could he get another job like he
33:04
had? I don't know stuff. I just think Kenny's
33:08
the most likely is what I'm saying. Probably
33:12
in a shack. The shack. I'm saying have one. I
33:16
know that he's doing DJ sets, bro. Is under DJ.
33:20
Well, I mean, he is. constantly doing anything
33:24
for a paycheck. So it wouldn't shock me if he
33:26
had a podcast. Yeah, he's trying to get that
33:30
generation on generation on generational wealth.
33:33
He's trying to stack up like three or four generations
33:36
of wealth. I respect the hustle. Absolutely.
33:40
I know that I just don't think he has time. Yeah,
33:44
I know that Chuck and Ernie have a podcast together.
33:47
I think it's called like the steam room or something.
33:50
Oh, yeah, totally forgot about that. And I've
33:53
heard it's pretty all right. You know, it's it's
33:56
inside the NBA, but just Chuck and Ernie and
34:00
Ernie rocks. Ernie does Ernie. Ernie does rock.
34:05
I love the the the compilations on YouTube of
34:08
like Ernie Johnson black moments and and Shaq's
34:15
just like, Hey, Ernie, what does it mean? I throw
34:19
some 40s on it and he's like well that means
34:22
you're rolling too deep with it he says like
34:24
exactly what it is and he's like yeah you know
34:29
um Ernie can say it good i mean i don't have
34:39
any any say in that but i don't have any saying
34:43
that either but i feel like he could nobody would
34:45
be mad about it yes i feel like he could i feel
34:48
like he could yeah um hell yeah hell yeah probably
34:57
switch topics before uh things get off the rails
35:01
moving on uh in other random news we briefly
35:09
discussed this before the pod but shawn do you
35:12
have um kind of a breakdown of some sorts? Yeah.
35:21
So Saquon Barkley is the Madden 26 cover. First
35:27
off, I wish they hadn't just made that helmet
35:32
black, you know? It was so dumb. Yeah. Oh, I
35:36
must have missed that. Yeah, it's like instead
35:40
of... He's hurtling over Jerry and Jones of the
35:43
Jacksonville Jaguars, which I'm sure Jerry and
35:46
is very relieved that he is not on that cover,
35:53
but How hard with that coming? Yeah Okay, they
35:59
they completely took the logo out of the cover.
36:03
I I I understand but I get it I get it as well
36:08
But but also fuck the Jaguars. Yeah. Being a
36:11
Salty Titans fan. You would like to see your
36:17
division rivals, you know. Humble, humiliated.
36:24
Yes, yes, exactly. Shad on. Destroyed. Literally
36:28
shat on. But there is something. That Saquon
36:39
Barkley has to overcome this year Some would
36:43
say he has to break two curses this year Okay
36:50
one curse being the Madden cover and I will read
36:56
you the last five running backs to be on the
37:00
on the Met on the cover of Madden not including
37:04
Adrian Peterson and Barry Sanders for the For
37:07
last year for the 25th anniversary edition because
37:11
that one does not count, right? Okay So the last
37:16
five 2001 eddie george Um He He rushed for 3
37:29
.2 yards per carry for the rest of his career
37:36
It's not good. Not good. Not good. Marshall Falk
37:42
had zero seasons of 1000 yards after he was on
37:47
the cover of Madden. Not good. Not good. Sean
37:54
Alexander. 11 touchdowns for the rest of his
38:00
career. Not good. Peyton Hillis only rushed.
38:06
for 1 ,258 yards for the rest of his career.
38:12
Which, that's a whole nother story, and that
38:15
number makes sense a little bit, but that's not
38:18
a lot of yards. Christian McCaffrey. Only played
38:23
four games last year, totaling 50 rushing yards
38:27
and 202 total yards. Not great. Not great. So
38:34
that's just the Madden curse. That's just going
38:37
in a little bit deeper of the position of the,
38:41
you know, the position that the player is on
38:44
the cover of Madden. But this one has come to
38:49
my attention. The offensive player of the year,
38:53
the last five winners have been a little banked
38:58
up. So last year, CMC, Chris McCaffrey. Missed
39:04
13 games banged up here before you the year before
39:08
that Justin Jefferson missed seven games The
39:13
year before that Cooper Cup missed eight games
39:18
2021 Derek Henry missed nine games and 2020 Michael
39:23
Thomas missed nine games and the entire season
39:27
after Is he is he back He played like three games
39:36
in 2022 and I think he played like Double digits
39:42
in 2023, but he was he didn't play last year
39:46
Dude that guy talk about a flash in the pan.
39:49
I mean like yeah like the year before but like
39:55
that that year he had was incredible and then
40:01
just like Dunzo yeah, I just fell off like Insane
40:08
insane, but okay that makes sense. I don't know
40:11
offensive player of the year curse So you're
40:14
saying Saquon Barkley under 1450 and a half rushing
40:17
yards is a lock Not saying anything really I
40:24
just think he has a lot to overcome this season.
40:27
I think I'm gonna take that That's what is that
40:31
line again? 1000, 1450 and a half rushing yards.
40:37
Yeah. That's tough. Also, I mean, I, I mean,
40:40
he rushed for over 2000 last year, didn't he?
40:43
We don't root for injuries. Obviously that's
40:47
a terrible thing to happen to a professional
40:49
athlete. He has not been the healthiest throughout
40:54
his career. Yeah. Just kind of floating that
40:59
out there. Well, I don't know. Like in that that
41:03
covid year, that 2020 year, he was like he played
41:06
like a few games and then got hurt. And then
41:09
but he's only I don't feel like he's missed that
41:12
much time after that. Like, I think he's missed
41:15
like a few games here and there, but I don't
41:17
think he's been out for an extended period of
41:19
time. From he played all the games last year,
41:24
I'm pretty sure, except for maybe the the last
41:26
effort. for week 17. Oh, don't get me wrong.
41:29
Like, yeah, like he was phenomenal last year.
41:31
I'm not taking that away from him. I'm just saying
41:32
he has a history of injuries. Sure. If he I mean,
41:38
he does. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, would it be shock?
41:42
Would it be shocking if he misses five or six?
41:46
Yeah, it wouldn't be shocking. But it does sound
41:50
like from from Sean's lists of mountains he has
41:55
to climb. It sounds like Saquon's gonna get shot
41:57
or something. It sounds like he's destined to
42:04
be in a horrible accident. I will say, not as
42:11
injury -prone as I thought. He has played 16
42:14
games three times in his career, so that's more
42:17
than I thought. That's what I was thinking. I
42:20
was like, I don't feel like he's missed that
42:21
much time other than Like I feel like the season
42:24
after he got hurt, he probably missed like the
42:27
first part of the season or something. I might
42:30
have been a little wrong. Aside from that season
42:32
where he played two games and missed the rest
42:34
of the season, he's played at least 13 in every
42:36
other one. But again, he can play 13 this season.
42:41
That's still missing four weeks. Yeah. Yeah.
42:49
And I don't know. It's hard to rush for 20 or
42:55
2000, 2000 back to back. If you're perfectly
42:57
healthy, if you miss a few games, I'm just saying,
43:01
I don't think that's ever been done. I'm just
43:03
saying for, I know it's hard to do. I'm just
43:06
saying 14, 50 and a half under. I think I'm going
43:10
to take it. All right. That's fair. Not rooting
43:14
for injury. No, absolutely not. We never do that.
43:18
No. Um, I will say. About them that I haven't
43:23
bought a Madden game and however fucking long
43:27
but What a perfect cover like what a perfect
43:31
cover art like what other what other? Instances
43:34
this year are you gonna pull from other than
43:36
the hurdle? That's that's fantastic Yeah, it
43:41
was yeah, it's phenomenal select. It's phenomenal
43:43
idea. It's great Although I'm pretty sure they
43:47
got him like jumping Over him like he's actually
43:51
hurling him what in that play though. He had
43:54
his back turned to him and he just jumped Do
43:58
you remember that? Like oh, yeah. Yeah, like
44:01
I mean, that's not how the that's not how the
44:04
cover art makes it look Like that's Hollywood,
44:08
baby. Yes Damn they also had him on like bungee
44:14
cords for the shoot and I'm like, oh Did they
44:19
actually shoot him? Like, oh, that's not like
44:22
a from the game. They showed like the video of
44:27
them doing it. And yeah, he was like a hardness.
44:28
And obviously he's they're going to do that.
44:31
But like, OK, damn, if he could have just done
44:33
it again, one take, that would be so fucking
44:36
cool. Yeah, that would have been sweet. Shit,
44:45
I'm trying to think of something else to talk
44:47
about here. Um, I mean, I y 'all probably didn't
44:52
watch much. I didn't watch a whole lot, but college
44:54
baseball this weekend was electric. I had not
44:58
heard anything about it. Oh, it's been, it's
45:02
been, it was quite a regional weekend. Uh, Vanderbilt
45:05
number one overall seed in the entire tournament.
45:08
Um, first team in college baseball history to
45:11
not make the regional final as a number one overall
45:15
seed. You hate to see it. Parfait program. It's
45:19
tragic. Go Wright State. Murray State made the
45:24
Super Regional for the first time in program
45:27
history after beating Ole Miss and winning that
45:29
region. That was a wild, they played Ole Miss
45:32
Monday night. They were up 12 to three in the,
45:36
going into the seventh or eighth inning and they
45:39
went 12 to 11. It was wild. Arkansas Little Rock
45:46
went to the regional final, um, after posting
45:51
a regular season when, or regular season record
45:54
of 27 and 33. It was awesome. And, um, Wake Forest,
46:00
uh, coach called the Tennessee player a homophobic
46:03
slayer. Um, so that was fun. The F word. Yeah.
46:09
The bad F word, especially this month. Oh, yeah.
46:14
Oh, happy June. Yeah. And is getting like outside
46:19
of Tennessee fans, like no flat for it whatsoever.
46:23
Dave, like a copy paste, like, sorry, I got caught
46:26
statement. That's it. If Tony Vitello did this,
46:29
people would have shot at him with this district.
46:36
But now because it happened against Tennessee,
46:39
no one gives a shit. But yeah, it was. Wild weekend.
46:43
I think I might be a college baseball guy just
46:46
just for the tournament Because I watched a decent
46:51
out this weekend and it's it's so much fun It's
46:55
like Every team as soon as you're starting Pinterest
46:58
taken out, you know, what the fuck is gonna happen
47:03
It's so much fun. Murray State on Monday night,
47:07
like these, I mean, they're a smaller program,
47:09
so they don't have like a whole lot of depth.
47:12
And they played three or four games in a row,
47:16
like four games or I've been four games in three
47:18
days. And I mean, they were just gassed. It was
47:22
like after their starting pitcher got pulled,
47:24
they walked like five or six straight guys at
47:28
one inning. It was brilliant. But I mean, it's
47:31
entertaining, especially when it's not your team.
47:34
Yeah, I think it might be a college baseball
47:36
tournament guy now. It's a lot of fun. Tournaments
47:39
are fun. Yeah. I will say there's kind of like
47:45
a I don't know, kind of a simulance between college
47:51
baseball and like college hockey, where I feel
47:54
like both of those sports When something good
48:00
happens the boys selly hard Like that's what
48:06
that's what it feels like when you watch like
48:08
a home run in a college baseball game. It's like
48:11
that guy You you could have not watched him hit
48:15
and you would have known you would have no Yeah,
48:19
then he hit home run. Oh, oh and going back to
48:22
the homophobic Wake Forest head coach The two
48:26
seconds after he called a Tennessee player the
48:28
F word kid hit a fucking nuke It was maybe the
48:32
coolest sequence I've ever seen in sports. There's
48:36
no slurs in baseball Just a league of their own
48:41
Just saying don't don't do it on national television
48:46
Yeah No, I'm joking. If you need to get it out,
48:53
you should write it down. Can't say it in June.
48:58
Of all months. Can't be saying it in June. Man.
49:04
Are you not an ally? Wake Forest is not an ally.
49:14
Confirmed. Confirmed not an ally. Man, I feel
49:19
like baseball gets... like There's something
49:25
going on in baseball where they're just throwing
49:26
them around that word and just like people getting
49:29
like There's an MOB player that got in trouble
49:34
for it a couple years ago with the Red Sox Yeah,
49:37
but then Send it to a fan I think Chris I'm so
49:43
sorry. What's the guy the Reds broadcaster? Oh
49:46
Tom Brennan. Tom Brennan. Yes. Thank you. I mean,
49:50
yeah That was that one had a little more like
49:53
a little more bite, a little more hate behind
49:56
it. Not excusing. Yeah, that's what I'm just
50:00
saying. I feel like it's it's very prevalent
50:02
in the baseball community. So, yeah. I don't
50:07
really know what's going on over there, but.
50:12
I mean, if you think about it, baseball is the
50:16
most kind of redneck sport. you could say? I
50:22
don't know. I guess maybe. I feel like it's more
50:27
redneck than football. Not professional baseball.
50:32
Not professional, but college. Yeah, yeah. I
50:36
would say professional. No, it's 60 % don't speak
50:42
English. Yeah, right. But yeah, college. Yeah,
50:46
I would. I would agree with that. Yeah, because
50:51
it's pretty much only teams in the south and
50:54
like the west coast that are kind of worth a
50:56
shit. College football, you have teams that are
50:58
good. Most throughout the country. That's funny.
51:09
No, it's tragic, Will. Sorry. Shouldn't be using
51:12
those words. Shouldn't be. I demand action. People
51:17
get fired. He should be fired. Like I don't think
51:21
he did he didn't get fired. Did he know like
51:23
yeah, exactly zero That's right. There was a
51:27
tweet that said from Like I said, sorry, they
51:33
just said like any quotes like I'm so sorry.
51:35
This doesn't reflect me as a person or the program
51:38
I don't even remember saying it blah blah blah
51:40
blah blah like and no no point of this copy and
51:44
paste apology did he's was it said like I apologize
51:48
to the player that I directed the slurred towards.
51:51
Yeah, I feel like whoever wrote this statement
51:54
because it sure shit wasn't him. I feel like
51:56
that. I feel like if you don't remember saying
52:00
a slur, you say it just off off the cuff. I mean,
52:06
it's just part of your vocab like I because OK,
52:09
so there's no like audio behind this whatsoever.
52:11
Like, sure, they could have just said like, yeah,
52:14
I said something else. Mm -hmm, but the fact
52:17
that they were immediately like nah, he said
52:19
I said I don't remember saying it so Sorry, I
52:23
got caught His apology was essentially his apology
52:27
was essentially. Yeah said that shit. Sorry What
52:31
you got what you gonna do about it? So what?
52:35
Sorry, I got caught. Oh Gosh, it's essentially
52:40
Yeah, actually what it was that part's funny
52:44
Yeah. What you gonna do about it? So what? In
52:52
my head, when Chris, when you said that, after
52:56
he said that and that dude hit the bomb, I was
53:01
thinking about how baseball just has so many
53:07
unwritten rules, I feel like. You can't stare
53:11
a guy down. or, you know, you better, it, it
53:17
just feels like there's a lot of unwritten rules.
53:22
They've gotten a lot more relaxed with it in
53:24
the last five years or so. Like it used to be
53:27
like you, if you had a home run, you put your
53:30
head down and you start running. Now it's like,
53:33
you can stare at that thing. You can just chuck
53:37
the bat 20 feet in the air. No one gives a shit,
53:39
but Yeah, it's it's got a lot more lacks. But
53:43
yeah, it used to be just this is like how many
53:45
unwritten? Can you write them down so I can keep
53:48
track of them? This is exhausting You can't look
53:51
at the picture sour else. You're gonna take 99
53:54
to the fucking dome. Like what do we do? Like
53:58
stop making this like tennis. It's like why is
54:01
this like the gentleman's game all of a sudden?
54:05
Right fucking Shit I had something to say then
54:11
I forgot it Oh I remember my dad was telling
54:18
me about this this one pitcher who I don't know
54:23
if it was in the pros or in college this was
54:25
before the pitch clock and as soon as a batter
54:31
entered the box he threw it and like you know
54:36
wasn't wasn't waiting for the guy to get set
54:39
or whatever. And nobody liked that shit. Yeah,
54:45
it's messed up. But it was like before the pitch
54:48
clock as well. So it was kind of like, I don't
54:51
know. It feels like let's get the show on the
54:53
road, buddy. Yeah, that was kind of like once
54:56
you stepped into the box. It was fair game. Yeah.
54:59
And like nobody. Everybody was fucking pissed.
55:02
Yeah, about this. There is There's one time,
55:07
um, it probably isn't the guy you're talking
55:09
about. I have, I don't know who you're talking
55:10
about, but I remember there's one time with the
55:12
reds, uh, Joey Vato, forget who we're playing.
55:14
I want to say it was like the brewers or maybe
55:16
the Indians, maybe at the time the Indians, um,
55:20
they, they're, they had this one pitcher who
55:23
was like, he worked fast. He didn't do like that.
55:25
Like as soon as the guy got in, Chuck it, he
55:27
just worked fast. So Joey Vato didn't step out
55:30
of the box, the entire bat, like saw the pitch.
55:33
He's like, all right, ball a strike. Cool. Got
55:34
right back in his stance. It was awesome. Interesting.
55:40
Joey thought it was so fucking cool. Yeah. Didn't
55:44
the reds trade someone? Yep. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah.
55:52
Um, yeah. Alexis Diaz, I traded him a few weeks
55:54
ago. Um, at one time, great closer. Uh, he got
55:59
hurt last year. Came back. was terrible. Got
56:03
sent to the miners. Not much better there. So
56:06
yeah, they train him to the Dodgers. Um, since
56:10
he's with the Dodgers, he's probably going to
56:11
close out the world series. And that's just the
56:14
way it goes. Um, yeah, I mean, the Reds suck.
56:20
So yeah, it's been a shaky decade. Um, Alright,
56:33
uh, well I got nothing Nothing left. Do you guys
56:37
have any any other topics? to discuss any cool
56:42
takes Any any slams Apologies. Oh, we talked
56:54
about me and Sean talked about earlier. Did you
56:55
see it? Well, did you see the attendance for
56:57
the Rockies Marlins game last night? I did not
57:01
Oh, it was brutal. It was announced paid attendance
57:04
was like 5 ,000 and some change. No way there
57:10
was 5 ,000 people at that. It was, it looked
57:13
like maybe half that, maybe 2 ,500. It's brutal.
57:19
I mean, it's two of the worst teams in baseball,
57:21
so it's no surprise, but damn. Oh, but the Rockies
57:26
won that game. I know we talked about that last
57:27
week. The Rockies, they, didn't make it to June
57:31
with 10 wins, but they're, they're at 10 now.
57:34
So they were on the way up. They did. Yeah. Son
57:37
of a bitch. Look at that. They're two and oh
57:39
in June sweep tomorrow. That would be something.
57:51
Be something. Poor Rockies fans. There's probably
57:55
like 30 of them, but still. They're fine. They
57:58
got legal weed. They'll be okay. Everything's
58:05
fine to them now. They've had them. They've had
58:10
them. This is new. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Should
58:17
I end it? I guess. Are we done? I think so. I
58:24
mean, I don't... I can't really think of... Think
58:28
of anything else. I mean, playoffs. Yeah. Yeah.
58:35
I think that might be it. Honestly. That's the
58:40
summer. Not a, yeah, not a lot. We work with
58:46
what we got. Um, so no WNBA talk this week. Oh
58:51
yeah. Page Becker's might have a concussion.
58:56
So that's like who the hell they got now. I don't
59:00
even know who that broad is. I don't even know
59:01
who page Becker's is. Pagey buckets. Come on
59:04
guys. Read a book. All right. Number one overall.
59:08
I don't think she's any, any, in any books yet.
59:14
What's that mean? I don't know. Sports illustrated
59:17
probably. I don't know. That's a book about the
59:20
WNBA. I'll write the first. It's just a list
59:26
of all the WNBA players I could ever think of.
59:31
It's just called the fan as in the singular.
59:38
We'll let the fan decide. Would you like this
59:46
dollar? Or a court side seat. We did this last
59:49
week too. I was like, how many weeks in a row
59:51
can we make this check? If you like this dollar
59:54
or a court side seat to the Indiana fee. I'll
59:56
take the dollar. All right. There you go. That's
1:00:03
funny. Do you like this dollar or a WNBA ticket
1:00:06
or double it and give it to the next person?
1:00:09
Double it and give it to the next person. That
1:00:10
would be such a funny prank. Oh my God. Alright,
1:00:17
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1:00:46
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