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- Deion: Peace and love, family. Welcome back to the volume shift. Today's conversation is heavy, but it's necessary. Jhalil: Yeah, we talking about the disconnect of black families in America. Not the bash, not the shame, but the understand so we can tighten it up. Deion: We come from strength, we come from resilience, we come from survival, but survival and connection aren't the same thing. Jhalil: So today we unpacking what happened and what we can do about it. Deion: I'm buck doc does the doctor without the doctrine. Jhalil: And I'm Jahlil, Urban Activist slash Black Activist. Let's get it. Deion: And this is the volume strip. Jhalil: I am Shiv. Deion: What up, though? How you living? How you feeling? Jhalil: ⁓ man, I'm great man. I done had 10 please. How you bro? Deion: Right, right. How your fans going? Jhalil: ⁓ man, it's going beautiful, man. It's just... Deion: And please say that to your fans going good. Jhalil: Yeah, real rap. I got my appetite back, man. You feel me? Deion: Love, bye. Jhalil: That's it, man. Let's get into it. Deion: But yeah, yeah, I'm chilling and, you know, maintaining, you know, living this life. Like, you know what saying? I tell people all the time though, just to, you know, give a little bit. It's like the fact that we feeling, we breathing, we living. Yeah, you got them problems, but you got a problem. Like, you know what I'm saying? And that just shows like that we human, that we living, that we feeling, that we alive. Like. You know what saying? Because the opposite is, you're not. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: You know what mean? you know, and that brings us to our topic today, man. And it's a strong one, it's deep, you feel me? And it's a must that we get into it, you feel me? And we're not the start of the conversation, you feel me? But we jumping in with our input and our view of the elephant, you know what saying? that's speaking on black families in America. And you know me, I don't even like even saying the word black, but you know what saying? Cause if we even talking about any type of healing or, you know what I mean? Rise of our folks is like. I don't know if we can start with names that I've just given. You feel what I'm saying? Or if we go on rock with it, let's stamp that joint and make it what it is and then redefine what it is and how that look and all of that. Because eventually, I'm a person of fairness, equalness, know I'm saying? Like human, you know what mean? Jhalil: EEEE Deion: I'm not on the get back. You feel what I'm saying? I'm on the move forward. You feel me? So if we're gonna be black, I just want that to be stamped and then I want us to be productive in the world. You feel what I'm saying? A lot of times like when you're hearing about other cultures and other backgrounds, other regions, other, you know what saying? Countries and everything else is like, and you know, Chinese. Jhalil: you Deion: They're going to rice or whatever. You know what saying? Haitians, every, like so on, so on. You feel me? They're going to say something that that plane produces. If your land produces that and you're a part of it you was born in that land, that's what you come from. You feel me? So all of that becomes your identity. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. you Deion: With us in America, because of the history, we don't got that identity. So I think first and foremost, we gonna have to start there, you feel what I'm saying? But like I said, you know, I ain't, ⁓ that was a small introduction to what we about to get into. But yeah, man, black families in America and, you know, everything that comes along with it. So let's get into it, man. Jhalil: I'm gonna say it. No. Well, hold up, before we do, I wanna give my definition of black. You feel me? Because people toss it around loosely and it's like black, not to ostracize or isolate ourselves, bro, but to be black is a personal thing that we had to go through in America. It's a culture that was created here. So it's like, you know. Deion: Okay. Jhalil: our brothers from Haiti or Africa or whatever, they got they true identities. feel me? But our up reason and the things that we had to go through and our challenges, bro, that's what determines us as black. So it's like, I don't take it offensive when like other, you know, brown people was like, no, I'm not black. I'm this. I'm not that. I'm this. That's all fine. But. Black is something that, like, you know, that's what we came up on and that was our upbringing and our experiences, bro. Everybody don't share that same experience. Cause in some of these countries, you feel me? They don't, they don't witness the same things that we witnessed as black Americans, bro. So it's like, I'm halfway in between, right? To be honest, you feel me? It's not like a knock to nobody else, but if you didn't, you know, If you ain't grow up and all your cousins was there on Saturday, you all slept on the floor watching cartoons at six in the morning. You feel me? If you wasn't back to back in the tub with one of your cousins or your sister or your brother or something like, you feel me? It's just certain experiences, bro, that we had to go through and that crafted our blackness. You feel me? And that's just how I feel. Deion: Yeah, and so we're using the term as it was given and that's the only way we know how to really, you know, announce ourselves or identify. You feel what I'm saying? And I know we went through a lot of those things, you feel me? But that can't be our identity. Jhalil: No, no, no, that just shaped it. Deion: You get what I'm saying? And black is not a race. That's a natural race. I don't even know whether a race, you get what I'm saying? Because it's like Chinese people come from China. That make it a race or a nationality. You get what I'm saying? Jhalil: Okay. you Deion: That's different. And that's why we're to speak about it because it's like, we Black Americans, I mean, what would do that in tell? Like, you get what I'm saying? Jhalil: That mean like we unknown Americans. Cause our identity was stripped. Remember, we gotta remember that bro. Like they made it seem like, and I ain't even gonna say they cause that's too wide. But it's just like, come on bro. My grandmom, my great-great-grandmom, my great-grandpop, all of them was from America, bro. You feel me? Like we're from America. I'm not from nowhere else. Like he didn't put us on like. We was here, bro. You feel me? So it's like that black is like the unknown part. That's the biggest secret in the world. Cause it's like, can every other race know their exact lineage, where it came from, but not us. You feel me? And I know for sure, bro. I'm native. My people are native to this land. So it's like, I can't identify with nothing else. You feel me? I gotta identify what I know. But hey man... Deion: Then that means, for me, then that means like, you rock with what America stand for. Jhalil: ⁓ bro, I'm indigenous. I'm riding with the people that they gave our identity. That's not the identity, bro. That's ours. And you tricked us out of it. To me, basically, that's what I feel. Because I can feel it everywhere I go. It's a hidden agenda when it comes to our history. It's all scrambled around and everybody can say what they've seen from our history except for us. So it's like, I don't disagree with that American stuff. You feel me? Because when they came over, it was 13 colonies they established. Remember? And then it was a point where Haiti, they went to war and then they got the other colonies. You feel me? Like the Louisiana Purchase and all that, all of them other states. But who was there in all of these other states before? Deion: Mm-hmm. Jhalil: anybody else came in and identified anything or set up anything. This land wasn't just open and free, it was already people here. So what about those people? I'm those people. You mean like where are those people bro? I ain't come here with them. Deion: It's just hard for me to add on conversations because like... I really wasn't there, you know what mean? And I don't really know. And there's a lot of entanglement amongst it, like so much that it'll get on your nerves or it'll make you like, I guess they made it to a point where they ain't want us to like dive into it because it get tangled. You know what I mean? Then you get more confused and how you begin to go into it, you won't come out. You know what saying? That's why I'm saying for me, it's like, I'd rather just go forward. You know I'm saying? Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Right and re-identify and re- know what Re-stamp what it is. Deion: You feel what I'm saying? Because I can't do nothing with that other stuff, but I know through experience and living and observing that going through this stuff and keeping it relevant in all of this is kind of like assisting where we at. You know I'm saying? Like you die, is, everybody wanna talk about it on a smaller scale of like forgiveness. Jhalil: you I'm not there yet. I'm sorry. Deion: You feel me too? It's like, no, no, but what I'm saying is like, what I'm saying is like, every day we'll be talking about forgiveness and it's sick, like, man, that's old, like, get over it. You get what I'm saying? And but on a bigger scale, it's like, you don't want to let that, that one go. You know what saying? Jhalil: you Deion: Yeah, you can keep it there, but what it do? It get you malice, it make you angry, it make you live life like thinking about the ops and shit like that. Like you don't even get to live your own life. You like robbing your own self and your own life. Cause you think about the ops 24 seven. Jhalil: I guess that's a way to think about it, because I don't think about it like that. I think about it in the fact that like, all right, don't get me wrong, it angers me, bro. I am furious on the inside, but not to like one specific person. It's just the fact that my history is like so hard to access. Like you got to break through the matrix code and you got to do this and do that. But I'm not living my life like that. Like I don't hate no specific people. or no groups or none of that stuff. But at the same time, bro, like art history, bro, that's ours. Like what gives any person the right to contain art information from us and have us scrambled up in the mind? Like, you feel me? So it's like, I kind of feel like before that, like before I re-identify and all that, it gotta be something about the ass, bro. It gotta be, I'm sorry. Deion: you Jhalil: And that's not like a physical job, but when I hit the workplace, when I'm doing business and all that, bro, I'm making my business to be known who I am. You feel me? And what I stand for and what I'm bringing to the table is not like a ⁓ violence thing, but no, bro, it's a prestigious thing. Like I know what I am for real, for real. Even though I don't know, I can't read it on a paper. I feel it inside. Feel me? So before I just be like, all right. I'ma just forgive and forget. I'm not, cause it wasn't that long ago. You feel me? It was 50 years ago. that's a little bit of time, bro. Some of our grandmoms is 90, a hundred years old. And then it's like, we can't even get history past like 1890 or before 1890. I'm sorry. You feel me? Like, and that's kind of crazy to me, bro. So like. Deion: Hmm. I it. Jhalil: I definitely am with moving forward, but you can't move forward without knowing exactly what happened to move forward, bro. That's just me personally. But before we get too out of it, before we get too out of the episode, man, let's get back into it. Deion: made a decision on it. Like you felt me because slavery was like, you know what saying? How slavery intentionally ⁓ impacted the families. Jhalil: Yes. Alright, man. Deion: feel what I'm saying? And you know, and that's what I mean. Like, you got so many actions that happened that traumatized us. all the way up to now. You feel what I'm saying? Like that's very hurtful. That's very fucked up. That's very hard to navigate through. You feel what I'm saying? That's why I honor our people. You feel what I'm saying? Like I know what they trying to show. Where, know, and this is the thing I say to other people too, when you watch them with your eyes, like know that. This is a narrative that's being produced, you feel me? So if they showing all blacks in the ghetto, you really looking at the results. You're not looking at something that's being birthed from that. Like, you know what saying? And these people is just ghetto and outrageous, you feel me? You looking at people that's, this is the results. So when you start looking at it like, Jhalil: Okay. Deion: ⁓ this the results of what them people did to them people. We start looking at it. Jhalil: Exactly, bro. We started off wearing suits and ties and all that, being polite and like it's just different aspects, bro, of how we even first came out, bro. It wasn't no baggy clothes and all that back in the day, bro. We always was worried about like our presentation, not worried about it, but we always was on top of that and how we treated each other and everything. And that still seeps in today. It's like some of the nicest people you will ever meet be from the ghetto. You feel me? Like that went through the struggles, bro. That's what helped. Like that's what helped be sincere to other people who don't have it or go through these same type of struggles, bro. If we didn't go through that, like I don't know if we would be as linear, as polite and you know. Deion: think so because that's our generic makeup. A lot of us don't want revenge, Even as much as, even as much as what been done. Jhalil: Yeah, I don't want no revenge either. I just want my fair. Deion: We just like get off our back and leave us be. We just naturally loving, peaceful people. You feel me? That's why the narrative is strong that Black should be made to be like the people. Because whoever, who else been through with all that we've been through and we still here laughing, joking, living the best way we can. Jhalil: Alright. The resilience bro Deion: even with a foot on our neck still. You feel what I'm saying? that's what I mean by when you say like who we are like and you speak about those times back in the day it's like that's remembrance. As humans we got this thing called cell membrane that carries the memory. ⁓ Jhalil: Mm-hmm. is imprinted. Deion: reason why, you don't know your grand grand grandfather but you got his nose and his ears and shit. You see what I'm saying? Like it's through that. And so in those times like we ain't gravitate to like what other people was doing. When we threw on the suits and all that and got dappered and went out to the juke joints and all that, ⁓ the parlay. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: All of that was, you know, original stuff from the people. Wings, like, through slavery, wings stop dancing. That's us from tribal stuff. yeah, they beat the you-know-what out of us, but they ain't beat our soul to a point where we lost all our stuff. Jhalil: ⁓ bro. I'm over it. Deion: You see what I'm saying? And that's why I'm saying we got to say this so that we can start looking at it like that. You get what I'm saying? Because all of the trauma stuff is going to keep us in that. You know what saying? But I'm joyful when I'm talking to them. And I'm like, yo, yeah, they did all of that. But look, look, look what still came through out of it. Jhalil: you day Deion: get what I'm saying like, when you start looking back in all those years, 18s and all those, they all inventions of all the stuff that we use and you know what saying, to the day. You look back far as the pyramids, that stuff that's still in existence. So when people say like they didn't took stuff away from it, where? The Vatican got what? Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Deion: In my view, I'm seeing all this in plain sight. And these come from our people, you see the trickery? If I keep you with that same bloody ass history, then you will be stuck there. And you won't even realize all the great stuff that's still happening. You feel what I'm saying? Like, look at this shit, bro. It was some brother's day. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Thanks Thanks. Deion: architected how the walkway to the art museum is. Jhalil: Do it so with your camera. Deion: What you mean? Jhalil: is black. Deion: My jaw ain't black on my end. Jhalil: and it just popped back on. I drawn with black for a second. Deion: It never stopped on my end and shit. But yeah, it was some brothers that architected how that looked from JFK and how that whole vision of where Rocky ran and all that shit. So it's in plain sight, you feel me? it's almost like, you know how you be with your girl and shit. And like, yeah, she doing shit, but she ain't doing the shit that you wanted her to do. So you don't even see the fact that she is still doing shit. You feel what I'm saying? And that's how I feel. It's like we looking for a certain thing, but we don't realize all the beautiful things that's just happening. You know what I'm saying? Currently. Like right in our face, you feel what I'm saying? I don't wanna keep talking about what Trump doing and all that shit. That's what gonna bring me down, get me depressed. What make me wanna fight or something, you feel me? And that's not even in my shit. I don't wanna fight, I wanna love, I wanna live. You know what I'm Jhalil: Mm-hmm. I don't know, bro. I'm a warrior, guys. I like that. I don't cool with that. But I don't know, bro. It's just like... Because it's like, I don't know, man. Like, even doing business and... It's like you still witness all these traces of like, art containment. Like, you feel me? It's... Dog, it was a six-year-old girl, bro. that just got the same, she scored the same IQ as Albert Einstein, bro, at six years old, but we don't see that. You feel me? Like we see all this shit that's going fair mongerous or, you know, that have us riled up to go out and perform what they want us to go do. And it's like, man, ⁓ I can't see the move forward, bro, without like that shit being eliminated. I just don't, bro, because it's like even when we be like, all right, well, you know, we just going to leave it alone. We just going to continue to move forward. But then it's like, damn, all right, we didn't do business for this. We still can't get loans. Perfect credit, perfect this, do this, do that, business connections. It's like, it's always 10 times harder, bro. And it's just like, that's the part that I'm tired of. Like you feel me, it's the going 10 times harder, 100 times harder every time for every single thing, bro. And it's like, nah, bro, ⁓ I can't continue just keep going like that, bro. It's just, it don't make no sense to me, bro. Before you can like move forward, we gotta reconcile and see what's going on and not like going back to the old, but we need to see why you still like that, bro. You need to see why, even when we are, yeah, it's cool, y'all, do y'all. We gonna start Black Wall Street. We gonna start our own communities. These communities is under lakes and swamps, You feel me? So now motherfuckers is scared to, you feel me? To do it, like to do our own thing and set up our own thing. It always get compromised, bro. And it's like, we can't move forward if that's gonna keep happening. Like, that's just me personally. And I know it's a half and half, because none of us want to fight. I don't want to go against it with nobody. I just want to live ⁓ a nice life, bro. I want to do what I have to do. I want to treat people how I want to be treated and all that. That's what I seek. That's it. The fairness, like you mentioned, bro. But it's still, to this day, I still haven't seen any fairness, bro. And that's a problem to me, bro, because I'm a Libra, dog. I like fairness. You feel me? I like equality. But when it's not equal, now I'm tipping. You feel me? So it's like, no, dog. It ain't that easy to just brush it off to me, bro. Cause like even all the stuff that we went through bro, look at like now we got things like survival parenting versus like emotional parenting. Like you feel me? It's like you gotta choose one. And that's, that's kind of crazy. Like how we got to choose bro? Like we out here living this stuck in survival mode. Deion: I mean. I don't know, man. I think about ⁓ my ancestors and all of that. I don't know, maybe I wasn't affected like that. You feel what I'm saying? Like, but I'm affected in other ways, you feel me? And respectfully, we probably all in the blender like that. You feel me? Where it's the, you affected one way and... Jhalil: you Deion: every other individual on the earth is affected a whole other way, you feel me? And that's cool. You get what I'm saying? And beginning to learn how to live amongst each other in that frame of mind. You see what I'm saying? Because what happens is when you talking like that and then I don't talk like that, then I'm like, that's where the disconnect becomes. Jhalil: again. Yeah, gotta have the discipline. Gotta have discipline. Deion: relevant but I share your view of the elephant. Do you share my view of the elephant? You get what I'm saying? So now you can show me your dots and I can show you my shapes and then completely we got something that's full. You feel what I'm saying? But I don't want to eliminate yours because it's different. You get what I'm saying? Jhalil: Likewise. I do. This video is on. Deion: And that's what I mean, like, we able to still intellectually speak and talk at this present moment, the power and now, bro, we can choose right now what you wanna do. That's human, that's God. You mean? We got these others too much power. You feel me? When we so enraged that we saying like, this and that, you got to remember, while we saying all of that, we in it. We on Caesar's land. Jhalil: you But who made it Caesar's land? That's what I'm saying. Like, you can't just house it, right? Deion: Like, that's what I'm saying, bro. Like, that's why I said, we Moms would just accept being American because we are those people too. We take on the behaviors of the masters. If I come take your block, nigga. Jhalil: Yay! Deion: It's my fucking block now. So whatever I got going on that I want put out there, that's what's out there. You feel me? And you want to still be out there? Now you gotta follow my shit. It's just simple as that, right? So when it come to the street shit, we'll follow that. Yeah, yeah, that nigga took his block. That's his. Yeah, all right, well, they took America. Jhalil: Yay. Deion: You feel me? We ready take it back. Not in that position. So, you know, to put the energy there when it's not like, you know what saying? And at the end of the day, is we really in the position to be ready? Because like I say, if we remove all these folks that hate and all that, and we become the leaders of it, right? A lot of the stuff that's in effect is still going to be in effect. And we didn't have to make them decisions, right? You feel what I'm saying? Like, you're looking at them folks like they're in a position to make that decision. Jhalil: Any other questions? And it's cool, bro, cause I ain't going to lie, bro. That's why I built my shit up to be a person that makes decisions. You feel me? I'm not a person that just can just take like decisions from somebody else with no input on what like what we got going on and what benefits us, bro. I just, I don't know. I ain't with that. And there's a lot of people that's in positions that like, you know, that built up the skill to be able to lead. and introduce new ideas and introduce new pathways and everything bro. But it's like if you never get the stage to do it, it's like damn, it was irrelevant. Deion: Like what if your enemy like, the whole play is for this stuff to bog you down so much that you don't even get to live a life. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: You feel me? And then God be in you. God is in us, right? So that is like, he keep telling you like, what the fuck I'm telling you to do that? Why you keep talking about what the fuck they got going on? Like, don't make us put you in prison. Jhalil: I Alright, niggas still in prison Deion: and and and and you got out when you thought you wasn't gonna get out Even though the white man hates you. You still got up. You see what I'm saying? So for me it's like, we gotta let that shit, cause we interrupt life's plan with all our stuff. You know what I'm saying? Like, here's some shit happened to us. Like, was it supposed to happen? I don't fucking know. You know what I'm saying? Like, we just here, we in it. You know what I'm saying? I ain't asked to be here. I ain't say I'm a. come out black in North Philly and listen, Lisa and Dion, I ain't know none of that. You feel me? But I know I'm here and the things that come through me is like what I think that I'm supposed to be presenting. And a lot of times God that showed me like this, when I try to do my thing, it'd be like no dice. And that's the only battle that I really be having. Jhalil: you Deion: You feel me? So when I go into Jones and I don't get the loan and all that, it's cause I got like button my shirt up or do something with me. Even if that's not the case, it feels better that I can go back and work on something that's going to be productive. You know what I'm saying? Because getting mad at who behind the dust. Jhalil: Yeah, that's useless. It's the system. Deion: You know what saying? That's not going... That's not going... Like, that's just gonna make me angry. Unless I'm going to step to a position where I'm going to take that space over and put something productive in it, in this place. You know what mean? You know, I'm big on the counter. You feel what I'm saying? I'm a counter fighter, like, you know what I'm saying? So... Jhalil: Mm. Mm-hmm. Deion: You come with the left and I'm off the line and I'm coming with the right. You feel what I'm saying? ⁓ And I think that's the best way we can win. You feel what I'm saying? Because being outside protesting and all of that is like, but I don't see a way that we could just change the laws and all of that. It's the same way we was in jail, right? And motherfuckers was like, Airmark taking over. Was it Keefee or, yeah, it was Keefee. When Keefee first came in, that's the operating system to get like commissary in the jail, right? And it was all this talk about Bush wife being, you know what I'm saying? And all of that. And I remember in the jails, it was like, you couldn't get a day of people just stop buying commissary just for one day. In efforts to like change it back to Airmark. Jhalil: Yay. Okay. you Deion: You know what saying? So when you talk about changing laws and all that, that means you're okay with wanting to follow those. You just want to make it equal, man, and make it better. You see what I'm saying? But you're not in a position to be like, well, we're gonna scrap all them Jones. Jhalil: Okay. Deion: Like you get what I'm saying? Cause think about the main thing that happens around that time. They out, they out promote and they out try and get you to vote. They out try and get you to vote. They out try and get you to... Jhalil: And you know where they get the funds from? They do all that and put this propaganda in? Like, you know where they get it from, bro. You know where they get the essence and the energy and the, like, they get all of that shit off the backs of, like, the less fortunate people, bro. So it's like, that shit bullshit. Like, you feel? I don't feel it, bro. Like, I'm definitely with you. I ain't with all the rules and... doing this and like if I feel as though I don't agree with the rule bro, I find the back door for every single time bro. And that's how I got to this position in life is by finding back doors, but I'm tired of finding back doors. I should be able to walk through the front door now. You feel me? You should be able to walk through the front door now. And it's not like to say, yeah, it's like every action need a reaction. No, but bro, it's just like. Where the confidence, like where the confidence gonna come in to influence other people to be like, no, they right. This is how it should be like this. You won't get that confidence if there's no wins, bro. And when I look around, there's not enough wins, bro. It's not enough. Because rural shit, dawg, we see it every day. Deion: mean, when a victim come out and they tell their story, it's all, you know what mean? But after a while, bitch get over it. Like, now what? You feel what I'm saying? Like, real shit. Jhalil: And that's the thing now what like that's that's where I'm at bro now what? Now what like? Deion: I mean, it still is like. The fact that, right, you won't let it go, you know what I'm saying? So your what now is still that. You get what I'm saying? So how can you move forward if your what now is still that? You get what I'm saying? So. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Deion: You know, the power is within ourselves. You know what mean? I was telling my man the other day and shit, you know what saying? He always debate me in these conversations, like, and you know, he'd be on the same gear, like, you know, Trump doing this and all, they did this, they did that. And I'd just be like. Jhalil: you Yeah, I ain't knowin' that, bro, cause I understand, like... Deion: I don't got the energy for that no more. You feel what I'm saying? It's like, and all that, and I always in the conversation like, bro, what are we gonna do? Like what are we, like what are we, what you trying to do, bro? Like, you feel me? Like, I'm on a hood time like that. Like, like what you trying to do, bro? You know what I'm saying? Cause I ain't gonna keep talking about this shit. Hey, they all there, you feel what I'm saying? But. Jhalil: And that's probably like a... Okay. Deion: I know it, but at the same time, bro, I know that it's not a lot of us that's understanding like this. You get what I'm saying? Reason why we gotta have these conversations. We gotta jump on this drone, do this podcast, you know what saying? And bridge the gaps from even the disconnect within the family. That shit hurt. So I... Jhalil: Yeah. ⁓ Yes. Deion: Don't ever, you know, there's never a confusion. Like I'm full 100 % of us. You get what I'm saying? So for me, bro, to even have disconnects within the blacks, you know what saying? Like blacks that live citizen lives. some niggas that be on some ghetto shit. You feel what I'm saying? So act like the terminology, black versus nigga. Jhalil: Thank Deion: You feel what I'm saying? it's like, even those disconnects. See, a lot of people think about whites doing it and all of that. But me, I think about, right, bro? If we had a future where we was all black and we ran how we ran and we still had a disconnect. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: I just wonder how, you know, it. Jhalil: I don't think it would be a disconnect though. that system never came in and fucked it up, it wouldn't have been no disconnect from the rip. Deion: can't say what ain't, you know what I'm Or what is. But I'm just going off of right now and how we moving, you know what mean? So if we was to take over, to me as humanity, you still would have. Jhalil: Yay. Yeah, you gonna have disconnects bro. That's just what it is. Deion: You're bad. I'm saying you're bad people. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Deion: Unless we think that we got a system where we can feed everybody and everybody just be happy. Jhalil: No, and that's impossible, bro. It's too many different perceptions. Deion: You see what I'm saying? So then what becomes our disciplinary then? Do we still have prisons? ⁓ it's still a prison, but we treat it better. We got programs to make sure you don't come back in this journal. What's the disciplinary? You get what I'm saying? So I always try to think about it, eliminate that white man shit and think about if we ran our own shit, how would we even treat each other? You see what I'm saying? So the unlearning is so important. You get what I'm saying? And that's the only reason I want to talk about it. You know what saying? Because a lot of people still ain't on ship. You get what I'm saying? So when you say emotional parenting versus, what was it, a survival parenting, a lot of people don't even know what you talk. Like, you feel what I'm saying? You know I'm saying? Jhalil: Yeah. ⁓ huh. All Deion: We understand like. You only begin to live life when you give life. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Deion: You know what saying? Meaning that you didn't surpass the full circle now. You know what I'm saying? Like, God had it all inked out right. Like, so on the joint, it's like you come in as a baby, not knowing nothing about who your parent is. You always through a life and then you can have a kid. And then now you a parent, but now you understand how your mom and dad was when they was raising you. You feel what I'm saying? Then you can get to a point where you become a grandparent. That mean you see your kids. You know what saying? That's like the full cycle. You feel what I'm saying? And long as white people ain't like got the full power to stop that, I can't give them no more power. You feel what I'm saying? Jhalil: Thanks No. ⁓ Yeah, and it's not even just against, it ain't just against white people, bro. It's against the systems. It's the systems, bro. It's whoever placed the system in, that's who it is. I ain't putting no color on the people, because I know a lot of decent ass white people, bro. Some of them I really fuck with, you feel me? So I can't just judge what happened in the past to all of them. Deion: No, I mean... Jhalil: But at the same time, bro, like they did get the benefit more off of what happened than we did. And it's like, I don't know, man. Like that shit just, that kind of sting, that kind of sting, bro. You feel me? For us to be a people that created all of these beautiful things and treating people like certain ways and like just looking out and building shit and everything. But for us to just get. pushed to the side and everybody else to the forefront, bro. I just feel some type of way about that, bro. It ain't about no white person. It ain't about no Asian person, Jamaican, Iranian. It ain't about none of that, bro. I don't look at it and be like, damn, Trump, he on some bullshit or da da. I don't look at that, bro. What I look at is the shit that people not looking at. Whoever makes the decision. Whoever makes the tough decision, bro, it's gonna be people that agree with it and it's gonna be people that disagree with it. You never gonna be like fully, ⁓ yeah, everybody fuck with this person. It's never gonna be that, you feel me? So I ain't trying to blame it on one person, but I'm just saying, bro, take the blame off of my people, you feel me? Because they making it seem like this shit is like this because of us. And that's where I am with it. You feel me? It's not like a personal thing where it's like, ⁓ no, I'm not working with them because they this race. No, fuck no. If we like minded people, we gonna build. Like we gonna extend it. We gonna make this shit greater. But at the same time, somebody gotta meet us halfway. Like nobody's riding with us as a culture, bro. And it's like, not even us. But that came, where that come from, bro, that we don't even ride with each other. Deion: And. Jhalil: I ain't just wake up and just say, I don't fuck with boys across the street. I ain't wake up and do that. You feel me? Like they ain't do nothing to me across the street. you know what But at the same time, that shit exists in our communities, bro, in our society. Deion: Well that should be your blessing, right? Jhalil: It's definitely a part of mine because like I use that as fuel. Like I use that as fuel to my vehicle to keep pushing. You feel me? That's that's what makes us resilient to keep going and all of that. Like, man. Deion: ⁓ we're good. We're good. But that's that, but see, that's that pollution that you not talking about that came through the ops. That's not your thinking, like, you feel me? So when you say you looking for your identity and all that through your heritage and everything like that, it's like, that ain't supposed to be in your makeup. You feel what I'm saying? Jhalil: Exactly. But how you find it? How you find what's in your makeup if it's hidden, bro? Deion: It's not, because everybody got this secret power, you know what saying? That exists in us as beings, and that's our internal. You feel me? Like, that's all I'm saying. As much as you fuck the body up of a black man, he still got his soul. And if you don't contaminate that... Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: It's pretty strong. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I'm saying, anybody that... can get pulled over by the cops and have so much hatred in them, and they just stealing and shut out you. You what mean? You just taking it and you cuffed and anything. You know I mean? Think about the strength of a person like that, right? And think about the opponent that guy do so much to him to hurt him and still don't hurt him. I feel some type of way if my best shot don't take a nigga out. You feel what I'm saying? Like, think how much a motherfucker guy used their life to work hard as shit to keep their foot on your neck. Jhalil: ⁓ With an Acute Buzz working 10 times harder bro just to be safe just to ride down the street Deion: That's not right. But if you feel like your neck is under they foot. You know what I'm saying? I don't put it in my shit so I don't... You know what mean? And I try not to think about stuff like that, you feel what I'm saying? Because I know the opposite of what it is. It had me in that rage, you know what saying? And rage ain't a bad thing, it's just how they try to manipulate and utilize those type of things against us, you feel me? Jhalil: Thank you. Deion: Man, like I said, like... for those white people that are like that. I feel sorry for him. You feel me? Like, that's it. Jhalil: Yeah, I do too, bro, because that make you a fucking loser. You feel me? If somebody could be peaceful with it, you just do your best to hurt them for no reason. That make you weak as hell. You feel me? That make us strong, but at the same time, that shit, I don't know, bro. That shit make me want to, you know Who you think you are, bro? ⁓ Deion: Okay, down there's life. Jhalil: Nigga, we chosen. Fuck is you talk like all that, put your hands on me and do all that, bro. That's not going down for me, bro. I don't give a fuck if visiting the car is to be just peaceful and then I don't care about that, bro. My genetic makeup is say, nigga, you better do what you gotta do, bro. So now my shit is doing what I gotta do is taking care of my family. Make sure that they don't gotta go through these same type of things, bro. Make sure that they got other ways to channel their energy and find different things that they're good at and capitalize off of and shit like that and building relationships. But it's like, make it hard when these other, when these losers come around and taint they shit. So it's like, it ain't a thing like, yeah, like on some like revenge, like our revenge gotta be bigger and better. It's not just violence, bro. That's what I'm saying. And I gotta say that because I don't want people to think that like, yeah, it's just violence. No, it's not. But at the same time, bro, you forgive, but you never forget, bro. That's what it is, bro. And that's just how I feel. Cause I can't just let shit slide like that. I'm not that type of man. You feel me? I understand that when we do try to stand up and revolt, that shit be ending bad for us, bro. But that don't mean I'm gonna stop fighting. That don't mean that, bro. I ain't gonna just, all right, y'all blew my last town up. All right, it's all right. I'ma go 20 miles, 50 miles south and build another town that y'all blow it up. And then I'ma say, it's all right. I'm not gonna keep doing that shit. Y'all got it fucked up. I'm sorry bro, so even if I gotta use my smarts and my means and abilities to do what I gotta do, that's what I'm- And that's what we all should be doing. And it's not just a violence, John, but you gotta be tactful. Like you gotta have ideas and you gotta have systems in place, bro, and be able to follow out these things, bro. But at the same time, it's like we gotta look at some of the history, bro, cause now like even when it comes to our parenting and like all of this shit is like, I don't know, it's forcing us to be too strong, bro. Now we don't even know how to talk regular. We talk with so much oomph as Americans. You feel me? We talk with so much ugh. That's how we move, bro. And it's like that didn't come from nowhere, bro. Our parents ain't teach us that. That's the grit of the world, bro. And everyone turning their back on us, bro. Like I love my poppies, the deaf. I love the mommies, the deaf and all that. You know some of our best people, bro. We from Philly. So we got whole sections that's, you man, the Badlands, all of that, that's dumb. We riding for them, you feel me? But at the same time, like now that ICE is riding on them, it's like, damn, we wanna help. But it's like, bro, all this shit that be happening to us, nobody stand in and be like, nah, bro, leave them people alone. Like, they great people. They did this for me and blah, blah. I can't just turn my back on the fact that nobody looked out for me. You feel me? I can't turn my back on that, bro. I won't turn my back on that, cuz. Deion: or that you won't get past it. You feel me? And it'll always be, you know, in front and back of you. You feel me? And, you know, that'll be the story. You feel what I'm saying? Jhalil: So let me ask you a question. You like doing this shit solo? You like not having, you know, no companions on different, like, no allies? Like even the US, bro, we got allies with different countries, bro. But us as a people, who is your ally, bro? Deion: What do you need? Yeah, you gotta build it. Jhalil: That shit hurt. That shit hurt, bro. Because out of all these people, bro, and all this shit that we done did and made better, bro, nobody picked up the torch like, all right, man, enough is enough. You feel me? At least drop the real shit that they do. Deion: Bye bye. That's not the case. mean, it's a lot of stories and situations like that. You feel me? people came to the aid of, you know, struggling Americans, blacks in those times. You feel me? Like, the greatest one. The greatest. There's a lot of people. ain't, it ain't. Jhalil: But what about these times? That's what I'm who? Who, bro? Who? Deion: It ain't all black people that's downtown that ever protested. Jhalil: No, no, no. This ain't about protesting, bro. It's just about right and wrong. You feel me, like? Deion: Somebody that's willing to like put their own life who can have a good life because they, they complexion is the connection. But they taking their time to go rep because something ain't right. You can't just leave that out. That ain't. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. ⁓ no, no, no, and they the people that I fuck with. You feel me? They the other races that I do fuck with. But I'm just saying though, like on a large scale, bro, that shit not large enough, bro. Like even statistics. Deion: That's what I'm saying, man. You looking at stuff that... When you don't look at that, then you ignore it and then you make it weak. But you looking for something that's going to be stronger. Jhalil: No, I'm creating something that's gonna be stronger. Like it's no look, cause it don't exist. You feel me? It exists, but it's minuscule. Like it's not, it's not wide enough, bro. For us to be like 13 % of this whole country, bro, just 13%. It's like, bro, the way that we're looked at and viewed and treated, bro, like we the ones fucking everything up, bro. And it's like, even when like it's black people that's striving every fucking day, bro, it's like, we so tired, bro. We didn't work so much and we didn't did 12 hours at work. And then when we get home, it's still more work with the family, with the house and like, bro, we don't got no time to fight. We don't got no energy to fight, bro. But it's like at the same time, like the same person can be of a different. of a difference, you feel me? And then they do half the time that we do, bro. So I'm just saying, it's just like the fairness, it don't equate to like what's going on now, bro. Cause like, I know a lot of people that's really putting it in, bro. And for it to be just like a couple millionaires, a couple billionaires that's of us, like that's, that's bullshit, bro. Like, real rap, you know how many people came out with crazy inventions and then they changed it and switched it. ⁓ no, that ain't his invention. You feel me? That's our invention. So it's like that take away from the oomph of like you wanting to keep going and making this shit better, bro. That take away from it. That's all I'm saying. And I feel like until like... We like, kinda get left the fuck alone. It's not like, we ain't gonna be able to just keep building, bro. Cause like, these the same, we the same people that's minding our fucking business and still getting slaughtered. Still getting trafficked, still getting kidnapped. All of this other shit, bro. Framed, all of this, bro. That's wild. So it's like, when I talk this, I don't just talk for me. Cause my situation might be different than a lot of people's, but at the same time, I see them people's situation, bro. And that's just the person I am. It's like, I ain't get to choose that I feel this way. I don't get to choose like, man, but that's just there, bro. And it's there for a reason. Deion: Okay. Jhalil: So that's my workout. That's what I got to work on. You feel me? Because that shit still fires me inside a little bit. But not enough to go fuck up my life or go demolish somebody else's life just because of that. But at the same time, bro, like, we really is trying to move forward, bro. But it's certain roadblocks that is like, all right, you move forward and then you hit with a roadblock and go around, hit with a roadblock. go around hit with a rope. All right, bro. We're we're do the road blocks in we're doing That's all. ⁓ Like how is no black like, or I don't even want to say black, bro. How is no indigenous people like news outlets? Is no like indigenous people hospitals? Is no indigenous people like, bro, we just got a couple of supermarkets. Shout out to my man who got the grocery outlet and all of that. Like, but things like that, bro. at the all of this time, all of this building, all of these things, how we don't own none of that stuff, bro. That make it harder for us to move forward if our economics always get crushed in the beginning. They like, ⁓ well, you can't do this. You can't do that. It's always a person you gotta go around and do all this. I'm just tired of going around and doing all that. That's all I'm saying, bro. That shit gotta change. Or I don't think we gonna be able to move forward bro, cause there's a block. Deion: Yeah, so, you know, that's what it is, bro. or... why are you late? Why are you late? Jhalil: Because bro like this really a powerful job bro and they see it they gonna be like damn it's really two sides to it bro because I ain't gonna lie dog even though it might seem like we disagreeing like it's the same idea bro it's just a different perception. You feel me? You as my bro you got more wisdom you feel me like you got more time here you understand a little better but as Lord Bro Deion: it. Jhalil: I'm the fire, bro. Like I can't just, you mean? I'm on fire, motherfucker throwing water on me. You mean I ain't about to just let that slide, dog? I'm trying to drop my 50 and keep it pushing. Deion: Yeah. You know, one of the strongest things that came out of slavery and shit was like, you know, protecting. You know what saying? ⁓ Hold on, cause I'm trying to look at where we headed at. Like discipline rooted in ⁓ protection, right? Jhalil: Hmm. Deion: You know that come from like... The slaves wanting to like protect each other from the master. So they're discipline you before the hand. You understand what I'm saying? So then you fast forward, mommy will whoop your ass to keep you out of trouble so you don't get in the hands of the white man. Jhalil: you Deion: You get what I'm saying? So in my brother's keeper, you feel what I'm saying? She was like, if I know like how that shit really was. Jhalil: . Deion: Like the moms that really like stand by the door and all, they know what them whoopings was, bro. What them lashes was. And that slavery time, you feel what I'm saying? These people put like some serious fear into us. Jhalil: No. ⁓ Mm-hmm. Deion: You know what saying? Like, and that's why I say, look at us, man. You get what I'm sayin'? If you act like how they whoop you, then they just continue to keep winning. You feel me? And we done seen it in real time with bullying and all that. know what mean? A bully can pluck a kid in the air and that, know? He keep ignoring them and all that. it's like, in the wild, motherfuckers gonna feel so much type of way. that you just keep doing it and he ain't like budging or nothing from what you doing, like why don't you just stop? And that's when you get another kid that come over, still a bully. You see what I'm saying? Nobody like that type of shit in real life. You get what I'm saying? And so that for me just separate the type of people that you dealing with. Jhalil: Okay. Yeah. Deion: At the end of the day bro, I'm not feeding no kids to no alligators and all that. I'm not whooping the motherfuckers back off and all that. That's not... I can't even see that, even at my angriest. What fuck is that? Jhalil: Bro, they ate that nigga Marcus Garvey, bro. They ate him, bro. Like, come on, dawg. Like, that's not it, bro. That ain't too far. Deion: And that's what I'm saying. Jhalil: That's too far, bro. That's too far. I'm the nigga that's gonna steal a bully, bro. I'm not fucking playing that, dog. That's crazy. I don't care what the end result is. Bro, you fucking wild and you think you're about to feed my baby to the alligators. Craziest shit. They think that I don't care how it end. Me being a Muslim and all that, bro, and just trusting in God and that's it. Like bro, I'm going to do what's righteous, bro. And I'm going to rebel against what's not right. You feel me? That's just what it is. So it's like, I definitely understand bro that we don't want to keep having this shit happen. We don't want to... Deion: That's why I keep saying it over and over, right? And I don't mean to cut you off, you know, respect. Like, it's like, bro, when you, you gotta really hear it. You know what I'm saying? As you speaking and all of that. You get what I'm saying? Cause you gotta ask yourself, like, how, how the end of me think? You know what saying? The same stuff that you saying, put that in the white people when they saw blacks and then took advantage of them. Jhalil: So you think just being nice is gonna stop it? Deion: No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying thinking about your individual or our individual. You get what I'm saying? The thing about this, all the relationships, the ⁓ racism stuff, the capitalism, the all the isms, you feel me? All that stuff make other people demon type people now. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: And so you don't even think that to yourself like, damn, I done lost my whole who I am. because of these things. I used to think like, damn, those scars made me who I am and all this. That's acceptance really. I accept that I had to battle and fight all through school and now I'm this. ⁓ you had the battle to be a man. ⁓ That's all we knew. You don't have nothing to compare that with. And when we do compare it, we call them people suckers. So all I be saying is this, before we can go at anybody, like we got a clean house. You feel what I'm saying? And wash all that master shit off. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Damn, bro, shit. Deion: You what saying? Like, niggas could be savvy and win the war, you feel what I'm saying? But you can't really win the war when you... No, the contamination is already in you! You're the weapon! Jhalil: You're using the same tactics, like. Deion: You the weapon bro. When they say blacks versus blacks what they talking about we the weapon. In the white man and black man war we don't we're our own weapon. You feel me? Because we'd be shooting at each other but when the cops come we put it down. So you use or dramatically obey him. You get what I'm saying? But you see in real time Jhalil: Motherfuckers want to run. Motherfuckers want to run. Deion: Iranians and Iraqis, all them, they don't live a regular life every day. They got to live to live. Jhalil: ⁓ Deion: They carrying burners and all that for the ops You get what I'm saying? So all of that contamination, you guys start right there and say, damn, the hops was so good that, you know, they poisoned me. That's where it really start like you get what I'm saying? Because imagine I manipulate you. You feel me in the fight. We beefing and say I manipulate you. You think like, you think how I think man. Who gonna win? You see what I'm saying? Like, I didn't exchange my whole identity into you and then took yours. You know what saying? And I'm watching you running around like a chicken with his head cut off. You don't know what you wanna be, who you wanna do. I wanna be violent, but I don't wanna be violent. I wanna obey, but I don't wanna... You don't know what the fuck you doing. You so confused. They didn't put that type of whooping on us, bro. You get what I'm saying? Got our families fucked up. Got us fucked up. And that's what I be talking about. when I don't respond like that and all that, it's because it's like, we accept the systems. The same ones we talking to this man, we accept them or they wouldn't be in play. Jhalil: I'm Deion: You feel what I'm saying? Like all that voting shit and all that, like I said earlier, all that voting shit, that's telling you, you got the power. I couldn't even be here if you, and this the confusion. ⁓ yeah, I'ma say, aliens can't vote. Felons can't vote because why? Psychologically, humans want what you tell them that they can't have. So now you fighting for a vote. Is you fucking serious? You talking about America that you don't fucking like at all because of how they operate and you gonna vote. Jhalil: Hey, that shit is useless, bro. Deion: You see what I'm saying? So all of this stuff be psycho, this is psych, how they say it, warfare. That's what this is, bro. You feel me? You keep that white man in your head every day, no matter how you try to frame it. Jhalil: Yay. Deion: You feel what I'm saying? The fact, because as humans, you gotta understand the human dialogue. You feel me? The fact that you can say something and put that in the human brain and already know like in the vein of manipulation. If I know I can put this bug in this female ear and it grow. I know what moves I can make to get up there. You get what I'm saying? So all of these things, we'd be saying the opps do to us, but we utilize it. ⁓ All day, every day. We scamming each other and doing all this shit on a lower level. But we talking about the tops. So that's why I be saying like, before we get into all that top shit, we gotta rectify what the fuck going on down here. Jhalil: you Deion: You know what I'm saying? The fact that we got this way with our families and all of that. Think about it, bro. We talk about it all the time. When motherfuckers do the hardest sentences within the families, it don't be the judge. It be us, right? Like Uncle Lilly who smoke weed and do crack and all that. You know what I'm saying? He out of the family. ⁓ It's serious to life without the possibility of coming back clean or not. You get what I'm saying? And on top of it, you don't even moment that you had a hand in fucking linear anyway. Jhalil: BLEUGH Deion: You get what I'm saying? Like I used to look at my cousins like, damn like, my aunts just drilling them. But they don't even recognize like what they did in participation to fuck him up that way. To be sitting there talking shit about him right now. Feel me? Cause when they needed him a little bit, they said, go get him. He fucking with auntie. Jhalil: Hmm. Deion: maybe my animal right and then when you go to jail you serious folk this is we doing to each other you feel what i'm saying so to be talking about all these other folks went in houses just so and that's what this thing is about man the volume shift bridging these gaps within our own families to be like Jhalil: Yay. That shit fucked up. So we can't the bigger battle Deion: You get what I'm saying? And we ain't got to talk about it all the time. I ain't telling you all my plans. You feel me? This is what people say. This is what slang and ebonics was created for. Chinese got Chinese language. They can speak in front of English people and they don't know what the fuck they talking about. Jhalil: NNNN All right. We got that too, bro. It's called AAVE. African American vernacular English, bro. In slang. We talking in slang, bro. They don't know what... You feel? don't know what the fuck we talking about when we hit you with the, man. We slid to the jump, came outside and, man, you know what it is. Like you don't know what I'm talking about, but you know what I'm talking about. we all... Deion: Alright. Jhalil: contain these languages. Deion: What they try to do, they try to shame us in it and then you stop talking like that. Jhalil: Yay! Deion: Right? You start talking like that and you want to educate yourself even farther, right? Never even thinking like, damn, the master set up a plan where I go to college, universities, and I can get a master's degree. That mean I'm a master at what the master taught. But I don't look at it like that. Unless I... And if I get a bachelor's, that's just a bachelor of what the masters taught. That's the curriculum. I'm teaching y'all what I want y'all to know. But you get the masters right, and you run back to your people, you say, got the masters. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Deion: I did whatever the master said. Grade A clay. And then you say, damn, black people ain't got a lot of masters. ⁓ white people got masters. ⁓ so they even being, see, then you getting tricky when you stop taking the black and white out of it. You say, these folks just playing. Jhalil: He playing an airy bi-fies, rrrr. Deion: puppet master with everything. You get what I'm saying? But the key to all of it is to not get in it. If I throw some gossip in the hood and you don't gravitate to it, what happened to the gossip? Jhalil: and to get out of it too. Sit down. Deion: You see what I'm saying? When we having these conversations, we gotta start dealing with facts. Like, let's deal with a couple different things, right? So when you still out of the family, we need to know, like, are you being poisoned by the outsiders? That's first. This is village shit, Before slavery, everything. Tradition. You know what saying? Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Deion: And then we can get into everything else because everything else got to follow that. Because if you were smoking the crack that they bought in. I gotta judge off of the crack that was put in you. I can't judge you as the person that died before you did the crack. don't, yeah, I can get mad because they get that out of me and I can have somebody to talk down on and all that, but we ain't doing that no more. We fixing families. You feel what I'm saying? So you come with, was poisoned by some outside shit, cause we ain't teach you this. Jhalil: Thanks Deion: As parents, as family members, we didn't teach you this. So you had to get it from somewhere outside. You feel what I'm saying? So you deal with that first. And then if they bypass that and it was just actually them as the person making a mistake or a pre, maybe they thought that it would come out different, but it didn't. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Deion: and now they can just repent and own what they did, then we can help and change that person. You get what I'm saying? Like, we can change and help that family member. You feel me? Because we know who we're dealing with. And versus the medicine, man, we got natural healing shit. Everybody's starting to know, you feel me? Fruit ain't just fruit. Vegetables ain't just vegetables. Humans ain't just humans. You know what I'm saying? Body parts ain't just body parts. Jhalil: RRRR Yeah. Deion: Celery look like bones. Carrots for your eyes. You feel what I'm saying? So all of these different things ain't just a coincidence. Jhalil: did explain for a reason Deion: You get what I'm saying? So I feel like me and God be like, you focus on those things I give you. Don't focus on who own the land and all of that. Cause you're going to miss my message. You're going to miss my whole mission for y'all. You get what I'm saying? And don't thank you just the people. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. you Deion: everybody, everybody, you know, got a people. You feel me? Yeah, we the first people. And you know what mean? So for me, if we the first people, we gotta be responsible for these, these muff, you know what I'm saying? We gotta be responsible. They then took our land and did what with it? They took God's plan and did what with it? So how are we being responsible to that? And I remember reading the Egyptian, not the Egyptian, the Ethiopian Bible, John, where it was talking about like, we did wrong by God and he punishing us for it. So that's what slavery and all that was truly, you know what mean? He allowed for them people to take over this land and do it all. Jhalil: Hmm Deion: and we still don't get it. So until we return back to that, then we'll get grace and be able to just, that's what I'm saying, bro. I didn't know how I was getting out of jail, bro, but I got out. You feel me? I don't know how we gonna take over the world and we gonna be, it's gonna be, but it's gonna happen. You feel me? Like real shit is gonna happen like because that's what it tell us like we living in the ages. I don't care about them folks. They don't got no power over this situation like really. Yeah they control this land and all that and cause but I don't even got a living that for real like you know what saying? I'm so far from them. Jhalil: Yeah. you Deion: Unless I bring them into my personal world, they don't really exist for real. And I don't even give them that much power because if I run into a road map right in front of me, I just deal with that. All right, what I need to get? That's all. All right, then I come back and I get it. Oh, I need more than what I just had. I thought, all right, no problem. I'll go back and get it. You know what I'm saying? Well. Well here, where's the supervisor? Because I'm told I'm being, I'm giving everything I need to give and yeah. ⁓ it's just a person that's running the system that's fucking the system up. It's not the system is up. It could be, you feel what I'm saying? So to me, like, right, you gotta have rules and regulations to run the land of them. Jhalil: Hmm Deion: humans are just running wild. It'll be chaos. It'll be warriors. You know what saying? So you gotta have some type of, know I'm saying? Think about this, right bro? I was thinking about it the other day, Nah, I shut up for a minute. I said, damn, do people really realize like the cops is trying to stop? Black motherfuckers, ghetto motherfuckers from hurting other ghetto motherfuckers fucking up they life. Right? And then a nigga from the hood would be like, why y'all coming out here fucking with us? I mean, we ain't doing nothing. just out here. It's like deep down, bro, you know what the fuck you out here doing. You trying to portray like, I ain't no here doing nothing. Like nigga, you fucking the hood up. The whole community. Jhalil: you Yeah, like you ain't doing shit. Deion: And then we got a whole nother group that's supposed to be hating us. try and stop them from doing that. And then we beef it. Jhalil: But like you said, it be the people fucking it up. People trying to micromanage. You feel me? Because everybody don't fall into that criteria. Everybody not chilling. Some motherfuckers coming from work. Some motherfuckers coming from the courthouse. You feel me? But not on the getting judged. You can be the judge coming from the courthouse. You can work with the system and that shit still can affect people. So was like... Deion: Bro, that's so rare, man. That's so rare. like, that mean that what they doing is working. That mean what they trying to portray is working because we only seeing what we see. We can't be in all the places at one time. So we only viewing what they provide in us. So if you only take what they provide in us. It's the only thing you're going to see is the same thing I be telling other cultures when y'all watching the news and they giving you ghetto feed. That's the only thing you got to go with. I get why you think the way you think about us. But come talk to me. It's a different feel. You get what I'm saying? I was in a resort in Mexico and met a Canadian boy. Jhalil: Yeah. ehhhh Deion: He was so shocked that I talked the way I talk. like, Americans talk like that? I'm like, yeah. He like, after all y'all thought like Donald Trump, come to America, bro. We had these conversations because your shit off. You get what I'm saying? And so it's so many more black people doing so much more things than we get. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Deion: portrayed in the hood, like you feel me? I'm looking at my Facebook and they showing me the fucking Keisha and them rumbling and got the whole family and the projects and this and that, you feel me? If I click on that and that's all, I'm keep saying, I'm thinking, ⁓ what the fuck going on out here? Vaxx the worst. I'm even saying that about my own people. Jhalil: Okay. Deion: You see what I'm saying? And then that tell you how much we even poison. Because if I'm looking at my own people and I'm like, damn, y'all got to. You feel me? I'm looking at my people like, y'all got to. You feel what I'm saying? But we both poisoned by the same, well. Jhalil: Okay. you Deion: But the disconnect come when you rumbling each other and not the real. Jhalil: Yeah, not solving the problem, like. Deion: You get what I'm saying? For me, man, I know our families is damaged, battered. You know what mean? Like we done been through the worst. You get what I'm saying? But I gotta say, man, to be accountable and to start healing, we gotta recognize that we play a part and the part we play, we gotta fix. You feel what I'm saying? Jhalil: Be ready. Deion: All this big booty hole shit, cheating, fucking all these other... You contribute to accepting that our families is broken up. You feel what I'm saying? Like, cause we don't need... And I don't blame you. Don't give me fuck though. I don't blame us. I'm just saying like, we don't know that we was strong families and... You know what I'm saying? Like, you can come over to the neighbor's crib and it ain't no sexual thing with... with fucking your wife and all of this. Before, you know I'm saying? That's why I don't start my stories with slavery. Before slavery, you gotta know what that was. You know what I'm saying? Jhalil: ⁓ Hey, that's the thing. That's my whole thing. We gotta know what's before. And how can we know what's before? You can't even access it. That's the fucking problem. Deion: next week. That's not true, we just gotta get in a space where we can access it. You feel me? Because, like I said, I had a mentor, you know what mean? And I introduced and pushed y'all along to have mentors as well so y'all could start becoming mentors. One thing my mentor used to tell me all the time is like, damn, Malcolm, just die. If he had a bunch of mentors, You get what I'm saying? It would have been a continuation and it was a continuation. Don't get me messed up with the UNIA and all that. they, in some efforts, they still, you know what mean? Doing their thing. You know what I mean? So, but I just say that to say like, oh, be repetitive in who you creating. You get what I'm saying? Cause this is the most powerful thing, bro, with the tongue. You know I'm saying? So a motherfucker can have a gun and you can talk him out of shooting you. You see what I'm saying? So then you mastered the gift of the gab and the lingo and all of that. You can get whatever you want in the world. You know I'm saying? And just educating yourself and continuing to stay internal in you. And I know it takes a lot, because the stuff that was beaten into us, bro. Jhalil: Yeah. Thanks. Deion: It's hard to just, you know what saying? But you got to look at it in different ways so you can shape it differently. You feel what I'm saying? Like, we looking at the same thing, but like I said, the view of your elephant will be different. You get what I'm saying? I'm from the hood. When I talk, I can't just... talk like I'm not from that. You get what I'm saying? But at the same time, I can separate what that is. Like I said, you know what mean? Who poisoned them? Was he poisoned? Was it from the outside? You get what I'm saying? And that's how it is with the hood. Jhalil: Thanks. Thank you. Yeah. Deion: It's like, no, I'll come from the hood, but I am my own individual person, bro. And the hood made that clear because they fucking bullied my ass, you feel me? And made me an outsider. You know what mean? And I even thought like the stuff that I wanted to do and present was corny or nutty. You know what I'm saying? But I had to face that shit and be like, no, this is what it is, bro. You feel me? Like, my gaps for a reason. Jhalil: Thank Deion: You mean I'm dark skinned for a reason like... Get what I'm saying, shoo. Jhalil: Okay. Deion: That should be tough, you know what saying? But trauma didn't start with us, you know what I'm saying? But Helen, Helen Kent. Jhalil: Alright. Deion: I think like conversations like this, you know what mean? A spark it, get it started. You know what mean? So, you know, if this episode resonated with you, you know I'm saying? Leave a comment, like, share, subscribe, you know I'm saying? Jhalil: Yeah, and we mean this sincerely because we got to get to the bottom of these root causes so we can come up with new solutions and plans, bro, to be able to work together, dog, whether it's Black and Black, Black and Hispanic, White and Hispanic, whoever, bro. We all got to formulate something that we can collaborate on. meet at a like, like some type of grounds, bro, so we can start to bridge these gaps, bro, cause it's too many different gaps, bro. Everybody got a different perception, but it's like most of our perceptions come before we even, you know, involve ourselves into it or see what's going on. We don't see for ourselves first, we hear it and then we run with it. So it's like with the volume shift, bro, like, We take some of our experiences and some of the stuff that's going on in the world, bro, and we try to connect the differences. So we need y'all to, we need y'all input. We need to see how y'all feel and like, you know, what y'all plans is or how we can put something together so we can build it the right way. You feel me? Deion: Mm-hmm. Jhalil: Yeah, man, make sure y'all like, share, comment, all that, man. If it's something you disagree with, let us know. Something you agree with, let us know. Something we need to talk about or some input for us, let us know, bro. It's not just me and Bro Show. This is the world stage right here. You feel me? So thank you for tuning into the volume shift. But we give you the real, not that fake shit. Deion: Thank Jhalil: And I'm Jahlil, man, the urban activist slash blacktivist. Deion: But doctors, the doctor without the doctor. Jhalil: And this is the volume shift. Deion: And we'll see when you need your volume shifted. You understand? Jhalil: you man.