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One Piece Live Action, S02E02- Good Whale Hunting · Spoil Me! One Piece

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Speaker 1: This is an unspoiled network podcast. This is spoil Me,
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Speaker 1: covering one piece the live action series from Netflix Season two,
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Speaker 1: Episode two, Good whil Hunting. Oh, these little joke stars
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Speaker 1: in this episode Lampoon makes me so sad still, guys,
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Speaker 1: But on the other hand, we're getting a sneak peek
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Speaker 1: at Brook and I'm pretty stoked. Welcome to spoil Me.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you
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Speaker 1: to Florian and Bernadette for commissioning these episodes. Florian's in
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Speaker 1: the chat. I haven't seen Bernadette. Oh, Floren says, got
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Speaker 1: a job offered today. Congratulations Florian. Good you can keep
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Speaker 1: commissioning things for me. Saraphim says, yeah. Every episode name
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Speaker 1: this season is a movie. Pun is the beginning and
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Speaker 1: the end the movie pun? Or is it like every
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Speaker 1: episode other than the first one? It may be I'm
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Speaker 1: not real good with movies. This is some something that
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Speaker 1: I have realized considering my line of work. A lot
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Speaker 1: more people think that I will be more on top
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Speaker 1: of than I am, and I frequently wind up disappointing them.
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Speaker 1: But you know, we all have our things, don't we.
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Speaker 1: So what can you do? Austin says, I think it's
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Speaker 1: every but the first okay. Cool. So this was like
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Speaker 1: the first half of this movie with our friends going
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Speaker 1: up and down the mountain was everything that I wanted.
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Speaker 1: I was very, very pleased with this. The whole vibe
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Speaker 1: of it is so I am positive this entire thing
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Speaker 1: is inside a studio, but it doesn't feel like that,
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Speaker 1: and that's the most important thing. There are just so
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Speaker 1: many different shows that I cover where the feeling that
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Speaker 1: we're in a studio is inescapable in a way that
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Speaker 1: to me feels almost lazy, like there were plenty of
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Speaker 1: ways you could have made this feel less like we're
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Speaker 1: literally standing on a sound stage with you, and I
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Speaker 1: don't know, it just looks great to me. Florian says,
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Speaker 1: they filmed it outside. The ship is too big for
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Speaker 1: a studio, and they really tilted the ship. Oh amazing,
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Speaker 1: Like I assumed this was a studio because for the
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Speaker 1: most part you don't really see the whole ship. There's
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Speaker 1: a lot of close ups, and then the whole ship
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Speaker 1: when we pull out. A lot of it seems to
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Speaker 1: be cgi to me, which is totally fine. So it
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Speaker 1: never occurred to me that they actually went ahead. And
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Speaker 1: that's amazing. I was about to take some shots at
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Speaker 1: Doctor Who, because they are particularly guilty of things feeling
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Speaker 1: like you're in a studio, and I will I'll still
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Speaker 1: take the shots, but this is amazing that it's a
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Speaker 1: like this is giving Titanic vibes. There's just something so
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Speaker 1: visceral about the whole thing, the feelings of the water
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Speaker 1: and the there's a sensation to it where it's like,
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Speaker 1: as I'm watching it, I can feel the spray in
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Speaker 1: the air, I can smell the water. It just feels
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Speaker 1: very real and it really was engaging. And also I
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Speaker 1: will point out my husband said, why don't they have
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Speaker 1: a one piece, like, you know, amusement park, And I
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Speaker 1: was like, I've been saying, and apparently they did for
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Speaker 1: a second, and this would be such a fucking awesome ride.
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Speaker 1: You could do so much with this. Honestly, there's a
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Speaker 1: part of me that's sort of thinking if they continue
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Speaker 1: with this like TV show, is it possible that Netflix
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Speaker 1: does an amusement park or gets like a piece of
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Speaker 1: an amusement park the way that Harry Potter got with Universe.
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Speaker 1: I don't know about what all Umbrella companies own Netflix
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Speaker 1: or who they're associated with or what you know, who
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Speaker 1: it would be that they'd have to make deals with
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Speaker 1: to make something like that happen. But I, for one
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Speaker 1: would be, as you all know, very down for it.
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Speaker 1: And I also think that they should hire me as
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Speaker 1: an ideas guy. I'll be a consultant with my millions
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Speaker 1: of followers. I think that I've got some real sway
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Speaker 1: in the one piece fandom and they probably shouldn't discount
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Speaker 1: my influence. So that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a series of really really great little
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Speaker 1: moments with everybody, like getting thrown around and Nami going
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Speaker 1: up to the front of the ship with Lufy and
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Speaker 1: having to dodge out of the way of a fucking
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Speaker 1: crate that looks like it would have broken her legs,
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Speaker 1: and then getting up to the front. The only thing
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Speaker 1: that I will say that I took a second and
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Speaker 1: was like, nobody's gonna nobody's gonna react to this adequately
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Speaker 1: is when she gets to the front and she's with
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Speaker 1: Loofy and they're saying, we did it. Now, all we've
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Speaker 1: got to do is go down and they reach the
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Speaker 1: edge of the waterfall looking fucking thing, and neither she
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Speaker 1: nor Loofy looks worried at the fact that there is
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Speaker 1: no discernible view of the water beyond that edge, like
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Speaker 1: it's a fucking ninety degree fall almost. You know, you
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Speaker 1: need to look more worried. Both of you need to
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Speaker 1: look more worried. They're both smiling too much, and I'm
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Speaker 1: so sorry, but no, absolutely fucking not. And the boys
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Speaker 1: at the back are hanging on, but they're still also
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Speaker 1: kind of smiling. And like the way that I would
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Speaker 1: have roped myself to the railing holding on what so
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Speaker 1: the moment that I lose hold, I just go flying
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Speaker 1: into the water for my bones to break against the rocks.
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Speaker 1: Can we get safety and protocols? Please, everybody get a
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Speaker 1: hold of yourselves. So as we're plummeting downward, we see
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Speaker 1: something at the base And it's very fun watching this
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Speaker 1: with my husband because he doesn't know a lot of
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Speaker 1: what's coming, and so he sees this and here's this
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Speaker 1: roaring sound and he's like what And then he just
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Speaker 1: sees Loofy yell, hey, whale, get out of the way,
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Speaker 1: and he started cracking up. And I'm watching this like, oh,
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Speaker 1: it's laboon. We're gonna have to watch poor Loofy beat
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Speaker 1: the hell out of this whale, and that's not the
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Speaker 1: way it goes. They handle this very differently than they
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Speaker 1: do in the anime. I think all to the good,
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Speaker 1: and I should mention that when the water like splashes up,
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Speaker 1: we get the one piece logo and I see the violin,
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Speaker 1: and I had a moment of like, way, way, And
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Speaker 1: later there's another moment where I thought, like, hold on way,
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Speaker 1: and I kind of think that they were fucking with me.
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Speaker 1: A little bit later on, I'll mention when but we
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Speaker 1: do get a sneak peek and guys, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if this is something that was surprising for anybody else
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Speaker 1: or if this has been in the material and I
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Speaker 1: haven't seen it, But like other than a couple of
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Speaker 1: like very specific trailers, I've tried not to engage with
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Speaker 1: anything that is sneak peaky for the show if I
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Speaker 1: can help it, just because I don't want to spoil
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Speaker 1: myself on the jokes or the vibes on certain things.
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Speaker 1: I'll watch the general trailer and like, I don't mind
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Speaker 1: finding out about casting things like that, but I will
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Speaker 1: say that, like the the fact that Brooke is appearing
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Speaker 1: this season, that at least the alive version of Brooke
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Speaker 1: is appearing was a big surprise because the focus has
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Speaker 1: been mostly on the fact that we're getting Chopper this season,
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Speaker 1: and so I feel like that really overshadowed anything else
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Speaker 1: that I saw. And let's see. Florian said the casting
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Speaker 1: was known, but we had not seen footage of it
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Speaker 1: till it came out. Sarah Him says, nope, they kept
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Speaker 1: Brooke a complete surprise, okay. Nehah says I went to
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Speaker 1: the one day of theaters showing they did of this
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Speaker 1: and the theater went wild when Brooke showed up. Nehua,
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Speaker 1: I am so sorry, but you are going to have
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Speaker 1: to blame to me. What the hell you're talking about
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Speaker 1: the theater? Did they do the whole entire one piece
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Speaker 1: season at the movie theater? What? Oh my god? That
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Speaker 1: must have been so fun. I am so mad that
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Speaker 1: I didn't know this was a thing, or I would
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Speaker 1: have like found a way. Ah. Austin says, I think
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Speaker 1: it was the first three. Saraphim says, yep, they had
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Speaker 1: a special limit release for select EPs and theaters. Now
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Speaker 1: who has said they did the first two episodes the
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Speaker 1: day of release? Oh, I am jealous. You guys next season,
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Speaker 1: if they do this again, We've got to arrange something
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Speaker 1: because I want to do that. I can't imagine watching
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Speaker 1: this with a crowd. I bet that was a blast.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like sitting there as I'm watching it with
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Speaker 1: my husband and like, I see the violin and I
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Speaker 1: just I went hold on a second and he's like what.
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Speaker 1: I'm like nothing. I think it's nothing. I'm pretty sure
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Speaker 1: it's nothing. And then later on there's a moment where
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Speaker 1: I'm like hold on, hold on, and I'm saying it
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Speaker 1: out loud and he's like what and I'm like nothing, nothing,
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Speaker 1: nothing or maybe. And then eventually when we do see him,
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Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my god, oh my god.
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Speaker 1: And he's just like what, and I'm like, babe, it's Broke.
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Speaker 1: It's Broke, It's Birket's brig, it's Spirk, it's Brooke, And uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, we don't get a lot of in this episode.
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Speaker 1: It's a very it's it's a very little bit, but
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Speaker 1: it was extremely exciting for those who are are only
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Speaker 1: joining for the live actions. Brooke is one of my
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Speaker 1: personal phaves and the only difficulty that I have with
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Speaker 1: him is that I don't know if I'm going to
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Speaker 1: like the character as much when it's not the same
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Speaker 1: voice actor, because the voice actor, like, I feel like
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Speaker 1: part of what I like so much about Brook is
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Speaker 1: sheerly the delivery of the voice actor in the dub.
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Speaker 1: He's just so good, And I'm wondering, am I still
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Speaker 1: gonna like Brook as much with somebody else? Like I
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Speaker 1: truly don't know if these lines would land the same way.
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Speaker 1: So I'll be curious to see. Austin says, you are
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Speaker 1: bad at this spoiler free stuff? What spoiler free stuff?
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Speaker 1: What's supposed to be spoiler free? I don't know if
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Speaker 1: you're referring to me or if you Oh, I meant you.
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Speaker 1: And Marshall, Oh no, he's he doesn't really, he kind
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Speaker 1: of wants the spoilers, I think a little bit. I
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Speaker 1: think he likes the fact that I like one piece
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Speaker 1: because it's something so outside of what he expected me
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Speaker 1: to like that it. I think he finds it sort
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Speaker 1: of fascinating, you know, when I'm like invested. And now
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Speaker 1: we did also talk about Loofy's dad, because we were
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Speaker 1: talking about that and he was just like, I don't
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Speaker 1: get it. It's like this, but the timing doesn't line up,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, do you want to know? Do
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Speaker 1: you want to know? And he was like, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: don't care, So I just told him, but uh, it
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Speaker 1: was it's yeah, he doesn't seem to be as worried
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Speaker 1: about it. So it's still fun too, because there are
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Speaker 1: things that like I could maybe spoil for him, and
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Speaker 1: they still might do differently. We'll see about some of it,
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Speaker 1: you know, but uh yeah, So what happens here is
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Speaker 1: like they go down into Laboon's mouth, Loofy has like
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Speaker 1: taken himself away off to the whale's face for a second,
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Speaker 1: and then he wakes up and the sun is shining,
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Speaker 1: and I'm sort of like, hold on, what's going on
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Speaker 1: because in the anime, when our friends wind up inside Laboon,
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Speaker 1: there is still like sky, you know, the inside of
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Speaker 1: Laboon is still like the outside. And for a second,
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Speaker 1: I was sort of like when we see the sky
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Speaker 1: and the flower, I thought maybe they were setting it
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Speaker 1: up to be like, oh, you think we're outside, don't you,
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Speaker 1: But no, we're inside of a whale. Isn't this surprising?
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Speaker 1: And they just completely did away with all of that,
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Speaker 1: and the inside of Laboon is just like the inside
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Speaker 1: of a fucking whale. And it is dark and it
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Speaker 1: is gross, and that's fine. This is actually the sort
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Speaker 1: of thing that, like, every now and then, for the
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Speaker 1: most part, I am able to roll with a lot
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Speaker 1: of the fantastical aspects of one piece, no problem. And
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Speaker 1: then every now and then there's something that I just
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Speaker 1: kind of bump up against and and I just go, Nope,
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Speaker 1: it's just not working for me, Like, I'll accept it,
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Speaker 1: but I don't really like it. And that was something
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Speaker 1: that I just kept being like, I don't even understand
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Speaker 1: how this is supposed to work, you know, And I
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Speaker 1: feel like changing this for the live action only makes sense,
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Speaker 1: and it's a good call because otherwise, how do you
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Speaker 1: make that make sense? You know, it doesn't. It doesn't
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Speaker 1: make any sense. So what we have here is actually
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Speaker 1: that that Crocus is living outside on the cliffs near
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Speaker 1: where Laboon bashes his face over and over again. And
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Speaker 1: it's really it's so sad. Guys, they made sure not
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Speaker 1: to do Loofy beats the shit out of a whale.
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Speaker 1: I'll mention that as well. I think we can all
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Speaker 1: appreciate that this is a thing that the show has
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Speaker 1: largely veered away from. Is that in the original anime,
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Speaker 1: there are often animals that are being mistreated and used
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Speaker 1: as weapons or you know that wind up like being
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Speaker 1: on the receiving end of some pretty brutal treatment, and
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Speaker 1: it seems that the live action has decided to do
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Speaker 1: away with that a lot of the time, which I
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Speaker 1: feel like is just only logical. People are going to
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Speaker 1: be up in arms about stuff. You don't need that,
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Speaker 1: And you know, this whole thing with Laboon, we find
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Speaker 1: out this story early. This is not something that we
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Speaker 1: the whole thing with exactly who is there, and all
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Speaker 1: of that doesn't come out until later. We hear about
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Speaker 1: the pirates and their relationship with Laboon and all of
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Speaker 1: that from Crocus, but we don't have the the fact
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Speaker 1: that Brooke is involved until way way later. And here
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Speaker 1: we're just folding everything in and having it all happen,
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Speaker 1: which I think makes plenty of sense and is totally
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Speaker 1: acceptable to me. And Loofy can't fight Laboon because he is,
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Speaker 1: you know, too far away and also in water, and
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Speaker 1: Lufy is like trying to freak out. He's doing a
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Speaker 1: very good job of like being angry and kind of hopeless,
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Speaker 1: feeling like it's calling Mufy hopeless ever just feels like
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Speaker 1: a lie, like he's never actually hopeless, but this is
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Speaker 1: a time where he's like really on the verge because
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Speaker 1: he just doesn't know what to do next. And then
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Speaker 1: we see Crocus and he has got the friggin' h it. Basically,
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Speaker 1: it's like a missile launcher but for syringes of a
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Speaker 1: sedative that will cause the boon to sleep and calm down,
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Speaker 1: because otherwise he is bashing his head into the wall
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Speaker 1: here repeatedly in the anime. I correct me if I'm wrong, guys,
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Speaker 1: but those scars on his head are from fighting the
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Speaker 1: ships that come in, right? Is it partially him bashing
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Speaker 1: his head in? Also? I feel like there's more fighting
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Speaker 1: with him. That's part of this whole thing. Saraphim says,
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Speaker 1: the series makes such good use of having decades more
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Speaker 1: story to use for foreshadowing and set up. Yet I
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Speaker 1: totally agree. Austin says, you recognize Crocus. It's the blackfish.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's what it is, Austin, he looked so familiar,
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Speaker 1: but without a beard. I kept being like, no, I
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Speaker 1: don't recognize him. I was like going I was going
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Speaker 1: back and forth a lot between being like, do I
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Speaker 1: know him. No, I don't know him. That's what it is, okay,
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Speaker 1: God wild? Uh, Saraphim says, no, bashing his head is
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Speaker 1: that it? Okay? This just this story is too sad, y'all.
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Speaker 1: It made me so and Marshall was genuinely just like,
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Speaker 1: I hate this sad wall look at him like he
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Speaker 1: was not. He's as much a sucker for a sad
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Speaker 1: animal as I am, and that is why we now
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Speaker 1: have Arwin on our hands. But uh, yeah, it's the
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Speaker 1: fact that he's left by his friends because they care
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Speaker 1: about him. That's the part that's really hard, is that
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Speaker 1: he feels like he's been abandoned and he wants to
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Speaker 1: see them, but we know that they did this because
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Speaker 1: they were so worried about him being okay, And like, honestly,
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Speaker 1: it's wild when you watch the scenes with Crocus what's
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Speaker 1: the name of the captain of the pirates that he
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Speaker 1: winds up chatting with, who's very cute by the way,
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Speaker 1: but he's extremely just like, wow, you really are taking
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Speaker 1: this adorable thing that has like no experience with you
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Speaker 1: into the grand line where he's just gonna be cut
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Speaker 1: up into sushi practically immediately. Glad that's not on my conscience.
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Speaker 1: And then is all fucking surprise Pikachu face when he's
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Speaker 1: asked to like look after this whale, and I was
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Speaker 1: just like, dude, you set yourself up for this. I
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Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you, but yeah, this is
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Speaker 1: extremely unsurprising at this point. Now, so we cut into
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Speaker 1: the whale and we get the flare that they send
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Speaker 1: up that remains like lit long enough for us to
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Speaker 1: get a pretty cool look at the inside of the whale.
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Speaker 1: And at one point, Nani says something because like Zora's
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Speaker 1: talking about fighting the whale and says, I'm gonna punch
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Speaker 1: that part that's like hanging down and she says the
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Speaker 1: uvula and he says, so it's a girl whale. And yeah,
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Speaker 1: my husband, that was probably probably the hardest he laughed
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Speaker 1: through the episode. That one really got him. I think
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Speaker 1: it's the seriousness with which Soro says it, you know.
21:08
Speaker 1: And what we get here is the introduction of mister
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Speaker 1: nine and you know who. Now, everybody calm down, Okay,
21:31
Speaker 1: here's the thing for those who don't watch the episodes
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Speaker 1: where I cover the anime I hated Vivi, and that
21:44
Speaker 1: is purely in the way that she was done dirty.
21:49
Speaker 1: I believe Bioda himself that's his fault. If he wanted
21:55
Speaker 1: her to be a badass, she should have been one
21:58
Speaker 1: instead of what he did. Everybody likes to cite all
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Speaker 1: of these things about her that make her badass, and
22:05
Speaker 1: on paper, yes, if you looked at her resume, yes sure,
22:10
Speaker 1: but then you meet her and it's just tons of
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Speaker 1: crying and oh, I forgot to tell you about the
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Speaker 1: killer things that live right here that we're about to
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Speaker 1: walk into seven times in a row for two weeks.
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Speaker 1: And I am fully prepared to give this Viv a chance.
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Speaker 1: I do not believe that Viv should suck as bad
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Speaker 1: as she did in the anime. I think that is
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Speaker 1: just he fumbled it bad somehow. And maybe in the
22:43
Speaker 1: manga she's cooler than she is in the anime. I
22:46
Speaker 1: don't think so based on what y'all have said. But
22:51
Speaker 1: so far, just we don't get much of her in
22:54
Speaker 1: this episode, but so far I like her vibe. You know,
23:01
Speaker 1: she's kind of got tough and quiet going on for
23:06
Speaker 1: right now. And the actress playing her was in Bridgerton
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Speaker 1: and is like another one of the most beautiful people
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Speaker 1: that you've ever seen in your life. This show. They
23:18
Speaker 1: really know how to cast them. So I just want
23:24
Speaker 1: everybody who is familiar with my personal dislike a Vivia
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Speaker 1: as a character. She's in my top five most hated
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Speaker 1: characters of the anime. I am not coming at this
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Speaker 1: with that energy. I know that the live action in
23:44
Speaker 1: some ways seems to be trying to set some things
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Speaker 1: to rights that the anime fucked, and very purposefully in
23:52
Speaker 1: a way that I'm sort of like hopeful about. I
23:55
Speaker 1: also feel this way about Tashigi. There's a scene with her,
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Speaker 1: it's not like the we go back to smoker for
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Speaker 1: all that long. There's a scene between him and Garp,
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Speaker 1: and then there's a scene between him and Tashiki, and
24:08
Speaker 1: Tshiki is like showing a little bit more moxy and
24:12
Speaker 1: metal than she is allowed to in the anime. And
24:15
Speaker 1: I feel like the moment where Robin is like, you
24:17
Speaker 1: are just underutilized, is her talking to the character herself
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Speaker 1: that kind of didn't get enough to do. So we'll see,
24:29
Speaker 1: but I feel confident, based on the track record of
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Speaker 1: this show that they are going to be able to
24:36
Speaker 1: make Vivi somebody I like, And I'm just gonna sit
24:39
Speaker 1: back and let them do it now. WHOA says one
24:45
Speaker 1: hundred percent agree. Cool. Austin says this show is a
24:49
Speaker 1: bisexuals heaven. Sarah Fimn says, I still don't see the issue,
24:55
Speaker 1: nor do I really think he was ever trying to
24:56
Speaker 1: make her badass as much as a young woman who
24:59
Speaker 1: was in over her head trying to do her best.
25:02
Speaker 1: I'm not sure when you say you don't see the issue,
25:05
Speaker 1: you don't see the issue of why I don't like her,
25:09
Speaker 1: or you don't when I say badass, I'm quoting other
25:13
Speaker 1: people who talk about Vivi. By the way, I have
25:17
Speaker 1: seen a lot of people refer to her as a badass,
25:20
Speaker 1: and that one to borrow a British phrase because there
25:24
Speaker 1: are no American ones that are quite good enough. That
25:26
Speaker 1: does my head in whenever I see it. I'm just
25:28
Speaker 1: like what t shigi? Yeah, Live Action is doing her
25:34
Speaker 1: so much better so far. Agreed, And we haven't even
25:37
Speaker 1: gotten to the icon that is Bonclay yet. I cannot wait.
25:41
Speaker 1: Florien says, I look forward to your takes on Vivi
25:43
Speaker 1: in any version. I just she just just cried a lot,
25:49
Speaker 1: and she seems to really just not get almost anything.
25:53
Speaker 1: Right ever, and it was very tedious. Ooh, there's a
26:00
Speaker 1: deleted message. I missed it, all right. So this whole thing,
26:05
Speaker 1: it's the moment that I was talking about earlier where
26:10
Speaker 1: I felt like they were kind of fucking with me
26:14
Speaker 1: for a second. Is we see somebody who is like
26:17
Speaker 1: slumped against a mast in another destroyed ship inside of laboon,
26:22
Speaker 1: And I was like, is this Brooke? Are we meeting
26:27
Speaker 1: Brooke already? I didn't really think so, because the outfit
26:30
Speaker 1: didn't quite look right and there was no afro, and
26:33
Speaker 1: so I was like, I don't think so, but it
26:37
Speaker 1: definitely had me kind of going hold on, hold on,
26:40
Speaker 1: hold on. And then it's not it's mister nine, who
26:44
Speaker 1: I think from what I recall, this dude is doing
26:48
Speaker 1: quite a good job, because I remember mister nine being
26:50
Speaker 1: pretty annoying, and this dude is very like it's giving
26:57
Speaker 1: like you just got put on the varsity team and
27:00
Speaker 1: you are just a little bit too big for your
27:02
Speaker 1: britches about it. You know, Yeah, he really sucks. And
27:07
Speaker 1: viv is you know, she pulls some things out here
27:11
Speaker 1: and actually seems like they both get gripped up quick
27:14
Speaker 1: of course, but she doesn't seem totally incompetent here. Oh
27:20
Speaker 1: my god, I forgot about that. Florian says, you called
27:22
Speaker 1: them Team Rocket the first time meeting them. I forgot
27:27
Speaker 1: about that. And that's really I remember them in the
27:30
Speaker 1: anime especially, like that still kind of works here, to
27:33
Speaker 1: be fair, but in the anime especially, there was like
27:36
Speaker 1: a vibe to Viv when she first shows up that's
27:38
Speaker 1: a lot more like Cakli, not Cakli, that's not really
27:43
Speaker 1: the right way, but she feels a little bit more
27:45
Speaker 1: like a like mean girlish than she does here. And
27:50
Speaker 1: there's just something about Team Rocket that always gives like
27:55
Speaker 1: the rich twins who ruled the school kind of energy
27:59
Speaker 1: and so oh yeah, that's where that was coming from.
28:03
Speaker 1: But yeah, those so these two are not only are
28:07
Speaker 1: we like encountering baroque works and we have the whole thing,
28:12
Speaker 1: you guys, I fucking love Zorro saying they sent mister
28:17
Speaker 1: seven to try and recruit me and needs to gasp
28:20
Speaker 1: because of course they realize if Zora's talking about mister
28:23
Speaker 1: seven in the past tense, that he must be dead,
28:27
Speaker 1: but none he as sorrow, so you turn him down,
28:31
Speaker 1: And Zora says, I was a little more cutting than that,
28:37
Speaker 1: and then there's a pause. Eddie looks at her and
28:39
Speaker 1: he says, I cut him in half. I really I
28:47
Speaker 1: they they're giving Zoro in the live action like slightly
28:50
Speaker 1: more Drax vibes for me, like just not quite getting
28:56
Speaker 1: fully how to be cool. He's mostly cool without effort,
29:00
Speaker 1: but everyhow, and then you're like, oh, dude, you know
29:03
Speaker 1: it's it works for me. I find it very funny.
29:09
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna jump over real quick to the scene
29:13
Speaker 1: with Garp and Smoker because Garb shows up unexpectedly and
29:19
Speaker 1: he has got Kobe and oh god, you guys, what's
29:26
Speaker 1: his name? It's on a tip of my tongue. I
29:28
Speaker 1: always forget. But he wants to speak to Smoker alone.
29:34
Speaker 1: And so these two clowns are assigned to Tashigi to
29:39
Speaker 1: show around town. And it's obvious that she's feeling a
29:44
Speaker 1: bit of a way at being utilized in such a manner.
29:49
Speaker 1: It feels like the way that the way that a
29:51
Speaker 1: person reacts when they're told to go get us some coffee,
29:54
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm so sorry, Florian just
29:58
Speaker 1: said haircut as his name. Sarafheim says, hellmepo, thank you,
30:03
Speaker 1: sarahm for being helpful. Thank you Florian for not being helpful,
30:07
Speaker 1: but you were very funny, so I will let it slide.
30:11
Speaker 1: I also need to remind everybody bro playing Helmepo is
30:15
Speaker 1: jacked as fuck, and I feel like it's very easy
30:17
Speaker 1: to forget that because of his fucking hair. So this
30:20
Speaker 1: is just a message to men out there, if you're
30:22
Speaker 1: trying to look good, your hair is deeply important, because
30:27
Speaker 1: if this dude can be as fucking ripped as he
30:31
Speaker 1: is and still look like a goddamn goon, you know
30:35
Speaker 1: the power that hair must have in order to completely
30:38
Speaker 1: remove the hotness. It's just that strong hair is everything.
30:46
Speaker 1: So figure it out. Even if you have to shave
30:48
Speaker 1: your head because you're going bald, fine, it's a statement.
30:51
Speaker 1: You just work with that. You figure it out. But
30:55
Speaker 1: it's just really easy to forget, Like not only is
30:57
Speaker 1: he cut, but he is actually quite attractive in the face.
31:02
Speaker 1: It's just that the hair and the kind of goonish
31:06
Speaker 1: way that he like goes about mugging sometimes you can forget.
31:13
Speaker 1: But yeah, overall, like the he's like steps over to
31:19
Speaker 1: Kobe at one point, and his fucking uniform is like
31:22
Speaker 1: pulling where his pecks are because they're just like straining,
31:26
Speaker 1: and I was like, Jesus, dude, you'd probably just want
31:29
Speaker 1: to size up or stop doing just day or whatever.
31:35
Speaker 1: So we have the discussion between Garp and Smoker, where
31:45
Speaker 1: first I want to mention that Smoker tries to make
31:48
Speaker 1: a joke about how the trainee pool must not be
31:50
Speaker 1: very good looking over at Helmepo and Kobe and the
31:53
Speaker 1: two of them. Rightfully, they don't say anything, but they
31:55
Speaker 1: kind of look like what the fuck, and Garb tells
31:58
Speaker 1: him to pipe down by bay basically just being like,
32:01
Speaker 1: you were a fucking goober back in the day as
32:03
Speaker 1: far as I recall, And I was like, thank you,
32:05
Speaker 1: Garb put him in his place. And when they go
32:09
Speaker 1: speak alone, what's going on here? We've already established, like
32:13
Speaker 1: in the previous episode, that he is trying to keep
32:17
Speaker 1: another pirate era from happening the way that Roger was
32:23
Speaker 1: able to like inspire everybody, and he sees Loufy being
32:28
Speaker 1: another like instrument of chaos in this way and thinks
32:35
Speaker 1: that Louvi needs to be stopped before he ruins the
32:39
Speaker 1: world essentially, and so he's like trying to explain this
32:45
Speaker 1: to Garp, and I was sort of like unsure. I
32:51
Speaker 1: couldn't recall does he know they're related, because like, you know,
32:56
Speaker 1: we know that there's now this like kind of conflict
32:58
Speaker 1: of interest here, And it turns out that yes he does.
33:02
Speaker 1: He says something about, like, I know that you want
33:05
Speaker 1: to protect your nephew, and gar stops him pretty quickly,
33:10
Speaker 1: and I won't say like puts him in his place exactly,
33:14
Speaker 1: because he's not really trying to. Garp realizes that the
33:20
Speaker 1: approach here is not to simply tell this guy to
33:23
Speaker 1: lay off, because that's going to really just look like nepotism,
33:26
Speaker 1: which it would be. So what he has to do
33:30
Speaker 1: is give Smoker or something else to focus on instead.
33:37
Speaker 1: And the way that he sets this all up is
33:46
Speaker 1: we've got people over here, like, once these clowns get
33:51
Speaker 1: into the grand line, they're just going to be eaten
33:55
Speaker 1: up by all of the higher tier shit they're going
33:58
Speaker 1: to run into. You don't need to pursue them because
34:04
Speaker 1: they aren't going to be able to handle it. It'll
34:07
Speaker 1: be over and done with. But here we've got to
34:12
Speaker 1: deal with some of the baddies that are piling up
34:20
Speaker 1: and keep that from starting to really spiral out of control.
34:26
Speaker 1: And he makes a pretty solid argument, you know. I
34:32
Speaker 1: think that I'm not trying to pretend that Smoker can't
34:38
Speaker 1: tell to a degree what it is that Garp is
34:41
Speaker 1: trying to do. I don't think Smoker's an idiot, and
34:45
Speaker 1: I think that he knows that this is partially just
34:50
Speaker 1: a redirect and a distraction. But I think that Garp
34:54
Speaker 1: is convincing enough in painting this as something to be
34:57
Speaker 1: concerned about that it can be played off as like, yes,
35:02
Speaker 1: it's a distraction, but it's just coincidentally a very real
35:08
Speaker 1: problem that happens to be showing up as a distraction.
35:12
Speaker 1: But that's that doesn't mean it's not valid and real,
35:16
Speaker 1: you know. So I just really like the I'm wondering
35:26
Speaker 1: about the ways in which we're going to continue engaging
35:29
Speaker 1: with this plotline, because you know, the way that you
35:33
Speaker 1: do TV versus the way that you do an anime
35:38
Speaker 1: or like in a book. In a book, you can
35:42
Speaker 1: like have a character basically disappear for ages and then
35:45
Speaker 1: suddenly pop back up again because we need them, and
35:50
Speaker 1: in TV you have to have somebody that's got a
35:54
Speaker 1: contract to be in so many episodes, so they aren't
35:58
Speaker 1: able to just disappear for a while. And so pop
36:00
Speaker 1: up again the same way unless that's explicitly gonna be
36:03
Speaker 1: how it works for them all the time. And the
36:08
Speaker 1: way that Garp, Helmepo and Kobe worked last season, there
36:14
Speaker 1: was a part of me initially that was sort of like, huh,
36:19
Speaker 1: I mean okay, and I did get you guys had
36:23
Speaker 1: me read some of the manga that happens like between
36:27
Speaker 1: episodes where it's just what Helmepo and Kobe get up
36:31
Speaker 1: to on their dawn time and the training that they
36:34
Speaker 1: go through and everything. So like I knew that a
36:37
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff was actually canon, but it just
36:40
Speaker 1: wasn't stuff that we watched in the anime in real
36:44
Speaker 1: time at all, you know. So I was like last season, going, Okay,
36:49
Speaker 1: that's a smart way to do this, I think, and
36:52
Speaker 1: it's giving them something to do. It is actually kind
36:55
Speaker 1: of fun and interesting to watch. Good call. But now
36:59
Speaker 1: we've read the point where I feel like that side
37:02
Speaker 1: stuff has been somewhat exhausted. And I may be wrong,
37:06
Speaker 1: because obviously I'm not caught up, so there's other things
37:10
Speaker 1: that maybe, but like if it is stuff that is
37:13
Speaker 1: coming from ahead of where I'm at at episode, like
37:16
Speaker 1: I think, like eight seventy I finally reached just recently.
37:21
Speaker 1: Then we're really compressing some things together. So I just
37:25
Speaker 1: I feel like, now I really really don't know what
37:28
Speaker 1: we're doing with Kobe Garpenhelmepo, and I'll be interested to
37:31
Speaker 1: see because I also was wondering about Smoker, you know,
37:34
Speaker 1: the storyline at there's something else I want to bring
37:39
Speaker 1: up too. I can't forget, so guys, try to remind
37:42
Speaker 1: me you said there was another thing. If I get
37:44
Speaker 1: so tangented that I forget. But the whole Logtown storyline,
37:50
Speaker 1: you know, we leave Loadtown and then we don't see
37:53
Speaker 1: Smoker again for hundreds of episodes. I think it's like
37:56
Speaker 1: a it's like a while. I feel like it's when
37:59
Speaker 1: we're on the island with Caesar Clown. That's the first
38:03
Speaker 1: time that we see him in a minute. So there's
38:07
Speaker 1: like I was sort of wondering when we ended the
38:10
Speaker 1: last episode, Oh is that it for Captain Smoker for
38:15
Speaker 1: a while or what are we gonna And then we
38:17
Speaker 1: have this and I'm like, oh, obviously, because we have
38:20
Speaker 1: so much, so much more of Garpalmepo and Kobe in
38:25
Speaker 1: the show that it makes sense that's how we're going
38:28
Speaker 1: to Squeeze Smoker in there as well. But oh, Sarahim says,
38:34
Speaker 1: and he shows up again in Alabasta. Okay, I couldn't remember.
38:38
Speaker 1: There is like a period where he vanishes for a while,
38:41
Speaker 1: but uh, he pops up so randomly in the anime.
38:45
Speaker 1: It's really odd. But the other so okay, the thing
38:50
Speaker 1: that I wanted to touch on that I intended to
38:55
Speaker 1: last time and didn't, and I feel like at this
38:59
Speaker 1: point it's not to happen, and I'm really sad about it.
39:03
Speaker 1: I'm just registering with all of you. I understand why not, Okay,
39:08
Speaker 1: I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. I really hoped, as
39:16
Speaker 1: I was watching episode one that we were going to
39:20
Speaker 1: get some hint of the filler episodes with Soanji and
39:23
Speaker 1: the cooking competition, because it's like that big fish that
39:26
Speaker 1: he like. It's a hint toward that, right. I just
39:30
Speaker 1: really I thought that like maybe we might have like
39:33
Speaker 1: a little you know. I it was. I think that
39:37
Speaker 1: was the first group of episodes that you guys told
39:39
Speaker 1: me I could skip because they were filler, and I
39:42
Speaker 1: just went ahead and watched them anyway, and I just
39:45
Speaker 1: loved them. I found them super fun and they are filler,
39:49
Speaker 1: but like I had a great time and they don't.
39:54
Speaker 1: They didn't. There is the mention of how the Baratier
39:59
Speaker 1: bought all of the other like elephant tuna and are
40:03
Speaker 1: making the dish that he made, which the old man
40:06
Speaker 1: told him he would never serve in his restaurant. But
40:10
Speaker 1: guess what now he is so Barazier. Like when Barazi
40:14
Speaker 1: is mentioned, I sort of was like, ooh, are we
40:16
Speaker 1: getting like a little bit of a maybe that's going
40:19
Speaker 1: to be the cooking competition, is that the Barazier is
40:22
Speaker 1: docked here somewhere else and Sanji is gonna go visit
40:28
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have the cooking competition there, and that
40:31
Speaker 1: maybe it'll be like him versus Zef's new protege or
40:35
Speaker 1: something like that, you know. Uh, And no, it doesn't happen.
40:39
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to reference because it was just
40:43
Speaker 1: a little like it's a nothing plot line. It doesn't
40:46
Speaker 1: need to be there. And I get that we just
40:49
Speaker 1: have so much time, you know, but I was a
40:52
Speaker 1: little bit like excited thinking maybe they'll do that, you know.
40:58
Speaker 1: But anyway, so getting back to this one, we also
41:04
Speaker 1: have the conversation like talking about how she's being given
41:09
Speaker 1: a little bit more to do. Part of that is
41:12
Speaker 1: coming from a conversation that she has with Almepo and Kobe,
41:17
Speaker 1: and again she reacts poorly to being told that she's
41:21
Speaker 1: got to be like a tour guide for these two.
41:23
Speaker 1: But as as things work out, they are actually you know,
41:30
Speaker 1: thoughtful marines that want to have like a real conversation
41:35
Speaker 1: and take her seriously and are engaging with her on
41:40
Speaker 1: a level that's much more than just small talk. And
41:44
Speaker 1: so I think it's kind of a relief to her
41:46
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, okay, I don't just have to
41:48
Speaker 1: like plain nice and take you to get drunk somewhere,
41:52
Speaker 1: and you're not going to become creeps that hit on me.
41:55
Speaker 1: You know. I'm just thinking about like as a woman
41:58
Speaker 1: in the Marines, where we see almost no other women
42:01
Speaker 1: at all, probably so she has to put up with
42:05
Speaker 1: that a lot. So this is when Kobe shares, you know,
42:12
Speaker 1: we were told by Garp that a big part of
42:16
Speaker 1: being a marine is not about taking orders, it's about
42:20
Speaker 1: standing up for your own personal code. And this clearly
42:27
Speaker 1: resonates with her. This is part of what kind of
42:31
Speaker 1: later on there's the reveal where she's like at the
42:35
Speaker 1: door when Garp and Smoker are talking to each other
42:41
Speaker 1: and I can't remember where it is that they're seeing
42:44
Speaker 1: is on fire, but she sees Robin in the mix
42:49
Speaker 1: and realizes, like, oh shit, that woman that like gave
42:51
Speaker 1: me her business card, that she's out here doing what now.
42:56
Speaker 1: So she later on is being told I think that
43:04
Speaker 1: she's going to stay behind and Smoker's going to go
43:06
Speaker 1: off without her, so he orders her to do something
43:09
Speaker 1: that she just straight up says no, and he goes,
43:13
Speaker 1: excuse me, and she's like, no, I am going to
43:20
Speaker 1: take a stand about something that matters to me. And
43:25
Speaker 1: this is one of those things that I feel like
43:27
Speaker 1: people in who have been influenced by media, I wonder
43:32
Speaker 1: how many of them get like real rude awakenings when
43:34
Speaker 1: they try and treat things this way. And that's not
43:38
Speaker 1: at all how it works, because it's just such a
43:40
Speaker 1: thing in fiction that like, you'll be tested on whether
43:44
Speaker 1: or not you will take orders despite your own personal
43:48
Speaker 1: misgivings about something, and the test always comes down to
43:54
Speaker 1: good you had personal ethics and refused to do the
43:59
Speaker 1: thing it was obviously abhorrent and immoral. But unfortunately in
44:07
Speaker 1: the world that's really not how it works, and the
44:09
Speaker 1: whole thing about the military is being trained to follow
44:12
Speaker 1: orders without questioning anything at all times, and if you don't,
44:17
Speaker 1: you really get punished. And her being like, I'm gonna
44:23
Speaker 1: take a stand on something that I care about, and
44:25
Speaker 1: there are swords out there that belong to bad people
44:28
Speaker 1: that I want to get back. And I really love
44:31
Speaker 1: this for Tashigi because I want her to have something
44:34
Speaker 1: more to do and I like her taking a stand.
44:36
Speaker 1: But as far as like this supposedly being like and
44:40
Speaker 1: this is like a way to be a good marine,
44:44
Speaker 1: I just can't help but giggle a little bit because
44:46
Speaker 1: it's just so antithetical to like the point of the
44:50
Speaker 1: military and obeying orders and respecting the chain of command
44:55
Speaker 1: and whatnot that I often think about people who like,
45:01
Speaker 1: you know, join programs where they think that maybe pushing
45:05
Speaker 1: back a little against the authority is going to get
45:08
Speaker 1: some kind of admiration, you know, And I have to
45:14
Speaker 1: assume not. You're not the main character, Seraphim says. He
45:19
Speaker 1: tells her to hold down and take charge of log
45:21
Speaker 1: tamily heads up. That's someone. Yeah, I know, it was
45:23
Speaker 1: something basically that was just like, you're gonna stay here,
45:28
Speaker 1: so yeah, he accepts what she says, and I won't
45:34
Speaker 1: exactly say that he's like impressed, but I do think
45:37
Speaker 1: that there's a part of him that's pleased to see
45:41
Speaker 1: her taking a stand at all, because she seemed sort
45:44
Speaker 1: of wishy washy, you know. And that's I believe kind
45:50
Speaker 1: of where we leave it with them for right now.
45:53
Speaker 1: So going back to our friends inside the Whale, there
46:01
Speaker 1: is a moment after we have caught our baddies where
46:06
Speaker 1: they're talking about navigating the grand Line and viv says
46:13
Speaker 1: something about like you need a log pose, and Nami
46:18
Speaker 1: is like, a what, and you see Vivy just look
46:24
Speaker 1: at her and be like, a lot, you you do
46:28
Speaker 1: have a log pose, And I just think back, sometimes
46:33
Speaker 1: there's a lot of this when I watched the live
46:34
Speaker 1: action y'all. This is the first anime other than Full
46:44
Speaker 1: Metal Alchemist Brotherhood that I've ever watched period, and Full
46:50
Speaker 1: Metal Alchemist Brotherhood is in a lot of ways still
46:55
Speaker 1: weirdly like grounded despite there being a lot of superpower
46:58
Speaker 1: type stuff. One piece is like very distinct, you know.
47:06
Speaker 1: And when I first started watching, for the first few
47:11
Speaker 1: hundred episodes, it sounds nuts to say that, but like, yeah,
47:19
Speaker 1: I think that I just really had a hard time
47:23
Speaker 1: understanding that you just don't have to understand everything, you know.
47:30
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sense of the name choices and
47:34
Speaker 1: the costumes, and I just couldn't because a lot of
47:39
Speaker 1: it is just bonkers, and it's bonkers for the sake
47:43
Speaker 1: of it, which is its own beautiful thing. But I, like,
47:50
Speaker 1: genuinely at times was just like, what what do you mean?
47:57
Speaker 1: And I remember when a log pose was brought up,
48:03
Speaker 1: and I got so fucking stuck on how stupid that
48:07
Speaker 1: name is. Like, if you've watched this show long enough,
48:12
Speaker 1: you just take it for granted, the log pose, that's
48:14
Speaker 1: what it is. But like coming at it for the
48:16
Speaker 1: first time, hearing the words log pose, You're just like, what,
48:23
Speaker 1: that's the best you got? And I'm sure that partially
48:26
Speaker 1: this is like a translation issue, but like, nevertheless, and
48:32
Speaker 1: it just struck me here that you know, this is
48:34
Speaker 1: the first time NAMMY's hearing of what a log pose
48:37
Speaker 1: is herself, And she has a real moment that I
48:42
Speaker 1: liked where it's not exactly imposter syndrome because it really
48:48
Speaker 1: is just her suddenly realizing that I'm entering into a
48:52
Speaker 1: place that I have no knowledge of and I have
48:57
Speaker 1: nothing that I can reference regarding this place because there's
49:01
Speaker 1: nothing to There are no books, there's nothing to research
49:05
Speaker 1: that can really give me clues. So she has all
49:09
Speaker 1: of these tools and all of this knowledge that sort
49:11
Speaker 1: of ends here, and she didn't count on that. And
49:17
Speaker 1: you know, the mention of the log poses the first
49:19
Speaker 1: she's ever heard of it, and she's starting to kind
49:23
Speaker 1: of freak out and be like, I am really out
49:26
Speaker 1: of my fucking depth, and I could really get us
49:30
Speaker 1: in trouble if I am the one in charge who
49:32
Speaker 1: doesn't know jack shit about shit. What damage could I do?
49:37
Speaker 1: You know? And I liked this. I think the actress
49:39
Speaker 1: playing nam she really manages to make Namy feel vulnerable
49:45
Speaker 1: here and there in a way that I wouldn't mind
49:49
Speaker 1: seeing a little bit more of in the anime, in
49:51
Speaker 1: a different way than we do. Not Me is vulnerable
49:55
Speaker 1: in the anime often in a way of just like
49:58
Speaker 1: she just doesn't fight the same, you know what I mean,
50:01
Speaker 1: Like it's different, but this Not Me has like a
50:06
Speaker 1: bit more going on. And I really love her acting
50:10
Speaker 1: and I think that she really is bringing it. I'm sorry.
50:15
Speaker 1: Florian says, you were so lost at times and sorry
50:18
Speaker 1: to say it was entertaining. I'm like, it's one of
50:21
Speaker 1: those things that I'm glad to hear that it was entertaining.
50:23
Speaker 1: I'm sure there were times where I was frustrating too,
50:26
Speaker 1: because you guys are used to this, you know, so
50:30
Speaker 1: like watching me just get fixated on something and being like,
50:35
Speaker 1: but why though, and you're all just like, oh my god,
50:38
Speaker 1: get over it. Who cares why. I remember having this
50:42
Speaker 1: feeling when I first started covering Song of Ice and
50:45
Speaker 1: Fire way back when it was my first podcast with
50:47
Speaker 1: my husband, and he got very stuck on the ages
50:51
Speaker 1: of a lot of the characters in a way that
50:53
Speaker 1: I was just like, holy shit, let it go. It
50:56
Speaker 1: is what it is. It doesn't matter. There's so many
50:58
Speaker 1: other things going on. Why is this the tripping spot
51:01
Speaker 1: for you? Over and over? And that's just what happens
51:04
Speaker 1: whenever you do something new. You can never predict how
51:07
Speaker 1: somebody who's like brand new to the title is going
51:10
Speaker 1: to react to certain things. And it's really weird sometimes,
51:15
Speaker 1: Like I covered Hunger Games with Rashan and she really
51:19
Speaker 1: thought Peta was like a bad guy. She was so
51:22
Speaker 1: suspicious of Peta and really thought that he was about
51:24
Speaker 1: to turn around and Stabcats in the back, and it
51:27
Speaker 1: was hilarious and completely unexpected. She was just like, nobody's
51:31
Speaker 1: just nice, what yeah, fuck this guy. And I'm sitting
51:35
Speaker 1: here like I can't say anything, but I'm just like
51:38
Speaker 1: my eyes are round and I'm just like, oh my god.
51:40
Speaker 1: It never even occurred to me that this is gonna
51:42
Speaker 1: be her takeaway, you know what I'm saying. So, and
51:46
Speaker 1: that's like talking about the live action. There's something that
51:49
Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying about it where I'm able to go
51:52
Speaker 1: back and appreciate certain plot lines in a new way
51:57
Speaker 1: that I think the first time around. It's not exactly
52:00
Speaker 1: that it's not at all that I didn't enjoy the plotlight,
52:04
Speaker 1: but it's more that, like, now that I have got
52:06
Speaker 1: the frame of reference that I do, it means so
52:11
Speaker 1: much more, you know, And you know, going back to
52:16
Speaker 1: everything that happened with Surup Island and with r Along
52:22
Speaker 1: and all of that, it was just a really different
52:25
Speaker 1: experience now that I've been with these characters for so
52:28
Speaker 1: much longer. So I really, uh, I'm having moments with
52:35
Speaker 1: this and her mentioning the log pose, I just suddenly
52:37
Speaker 1: had like a moment of God, I remember this fucking
52:40
Speaker 1: annoying me that the log pose is such a weird
52:44
Speaker 1: it's a weird name, it's a weird concept. The way
52:47
Speaker 1: that it's described later by Crocus, I was just like, Yeah,
52:50
Speaker 1: this makes as little sense to me as ever it did.
52:52
Speaker 1: And it's fine. It doesn't have to make sense to me.
52:55
Speaker 1: I don't need to get it. It doesn't matter. And
52:59
Speaker 1: now that I I understand that, I can let go.
53:01
Speaker 1: It's fine. So eventually we have we have a flashback
53:10
Speaker 1: of Brooke singing Binks's Brew to La Boon, and then
53:17
Speaker 1: we have a moment in the present where Loofy decides
53:20
Speaker 1: to try to get through to La Boon by going
53:23
Speaker 1: out there and singing Binks's Brew to him, and you guys,
53:31
Speaker 1: it's the best. It's the best. He's singing it, and
53:36
Speaker 1: he's got his hat and he's like shaking it like
53:39
Speaker 1: he's fucking on vaudeville, you know. And it's a moment
53:43
Speaker 1: of just silly showmanship. And then we zoom in on
53:48
Speaker 1: La Boon's eye and him being sad and lufy kind
53:53
Speaker 1: of like gets a little sobered up for a second,
53:56
Speaker 1: and he says, people leave La Boon, but sometimes you
54:02
Speaker 1: end up somewhere you never thought you would, and you
54:06
Speaker 1: meet people who stay, excuse me, you have no right? Okay,
54:24
Speaker 1: very rude? How dare you? How very dare you? It
54:45
Speaker 1: got me? Guys really got me. As soon as he
54:51
Speaker 1: says that, the camera goes over to Crocus, who's crying,
54:55
Speaker 1: and I was like, yes, correct, respond and he says,
55:05
Speaker 1: I need my friend's laboon, please, And La Boon opens
55:11
Speaker 1: his mouth and lets them out, and you see Vivi
55:14
Speaker 1: because she's been stuck in there, realizing that somehow their
55:20
Speaker 1: friend managed to get this fucking whale to open its mouth,
55:23
Speaker 1: and she's just like, hold on, y'all or really something,
55:28
Speaker 1: aren't you Like there's just a look on her face
55:31
Speaker 1: of I guess this is different than what I've seen before.
55:38
Speaker 1: And can I just say again, as the idea for
55:44
Speaker 1: part of the amusement park ride, you sail into La
55:50
Speaker 1: Boon's mouth. You're inside for a little while, there's weird light,
55:56
Speaker 1: spooky noises, maybe somebody jumps out at you, and then
56:00
Speaker 1: eventually you hear somebody in the distance, very muted like
56:04
Speaker 1: they're outside singing Binks's brew and suddenly the jaws open
56:09
Speaker 1: and your ship goes out through the Can you imagine
56:15
Speaker 1: how great would that be as a ride? It would
56:18
Speaker 1: be the best. I love the whole concept. I want
56:23
Speaker 1: this to be a real thing. So they come sailing
56:28
Speaker 1: out and Moofy just you know, he has believed that
56:33
Speaker 1: they have to be okay the whole time. But you
56:35
Speaker 1: can see that he's still just like, oh my god,
56:37
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. And
56:39
Speaker 1: I love Crocush just saying well, I'll be damned. And
56:44
Speaker 1: again this actor the tears in his eyes as he's
56:52
Speaker 1: cheering the fact that they're still alive. Why is he
56:58
Speaker 1: so good? They fucking nailed it, man with this casting.
57:02
Speaker 1: I swear to God, marry a bad actor in the
57:08
Speaker 1: mix anywhere, Like I may eat my words at some point,
57:12
Speaker 1: but god damn, you know, over and over again, this
57:16
Speaker 1: kid fucking killing it. So then we have everybody hanging
57:24
Speaker 1: out in Crocus's yard and having something to drink. And
57:31
Speaker 1: this is when Nami is talking about like, I don't
57:33
Speaker 1: have the right tools, I don't have the knowledge. I
57:36
Speaker 1: don't know what a log pose is. How am I
57:39
Speaker 1: supposed to navigate you when I don't even know where
57:41
Speaker 1: I'm going. I'm so out of my element and Zorro
57:48
Speaker 1: helpfully says, out of our element is when our crew
57:51
Speaker 1: does its best work, which I know that that's not
57:56
Speaker 1: really materially helpful, but he's trying to be encouraging to
58:00
Speaker 1: not me, and that's really the thing. And it's very
58:03
Speaker 1: cute because Zora ever wanting to be encouraging is cute
58:08
Speaker 1: because he just tries to act like he doesn't give
58:10
Speaker 1: a shit, and he do. Though he give a shit,
58:13
Speaker 1: he give a few shits. So this is when Crocus
58:21
Speaker 1: explains about how the log pose responds to the magnetic
58:26
Speaker 1: field of islands and how it locks onto an island
58:33
Speaker 1: from one of seven possible magnetic fields, so even two
58:37
Speaker 1: ships that leave the same place might not follow the
58:40
Speaker 1: same course. And she's like, that sounds less easy than
58:46
Speaker 1: it did. And he says, I've got an old one
58:48
Speaker 1: lying around somewhere. I'd be happy to show you how
58:51
Speaker 1: it works and give it to you for your journey.
58:54
Speaker 1: And it's just such a lovely moment. He's like, my
58:58
Speaker 1: adventuring days are over, and I think you're the right
59:03
Speaker 1: person to have it. It's cute. Crocus is such a crank.
59:10
Speaker 1: He says, some of the best navigators in the world
59:13
Speaker 1: couldn't get as far as you've come already, and it's
59:18
Speaker 1: just nice, you know. And Nami says, I couldn't have
59:22
Speaker 1: done it without my crew. And this is the thing, guys,
59:25
Speaker 1: is that the whole thing with one piece is just
59:27
Speaker 1: how much these friends trust each other and care about
59:29
Speaker 1: each other and rely on each other. And there is
59:34
Speaker 1: just something about seeing their relationship in a live action
59:37
Speaker 1: that hits different than it does in an anime. It's
59:39
Speaker 1: not that it's like it doesn't work in an anime,
59:43
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of time spent on fighting and
59:46
Speaker 1: joking and it doesn't. When they say something about how like, oh,
59:52
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it without my crew, it can come
59:53
Speaker 1: across as very like kind of corny sometimes, or like
59:57
Speaker 1: there wasn't enough work put in to make me believe this.
1:00:01
Speaker 1: And in the live action when she says I couldn't
1:00:03
Speaker 1: have done it without my crew, that really hits. You know.
1:00:06
Speaker 1: It's part of Lufy saying you'll meet someone that stays,
1:00:10
Speaker 1: that really hits. And I just feel like, it's weird
1:00:17
Speaker 1: how long it took for some of this to work
1:00:19
Speaker 1: for me when I was watching the anime in the beginning,
1:00:24
Speaker 1: because one would think with how drawn out A lot
1:00:28
Speaker 1: of the story is that there would be plenty of
1:00:31
Speaker 1: time to let these relationship moments happen and really feel
1:00:36
Speaker 1: it all sort of gel but it's all very stretched
1:00:44
Speaker 1: out with the same actions over and over again, partially
1:00:49
Speaker 1: as far as I understand, due to the price of
1:00:53
Speaker 1: animation and how we can't just be animating new shit
1:00:56
Speaker 1: all the time, so we've got to like have the
1:00:58
Speaker 1: same few frames for this one thing that we can
1:01:02
Speaker 1: utilize over and over again. And so there have been
1:01:06
Speaker 1: some things that have felt underdeveloped to me in regard
1:01:11
Speaker 1: to the relationships between some of the crew members that
1:01:14
Speaker 1: it takes like a really long time to fully get
1:01:17
Speaker 1: there for me, and this is speeding up that process
1:01:22
Speaker 1: a lot and just making the emotional beats with the
1:01:28
Speaker 1: crew feel much more earned and real and like the
1:01:35
Speaker 1: stakes I believe in our friends being in danger when
1:01:39
Speaker 1: they're meant to be in danger, you know, there's like
1:01:42
Speaker 1: a real sense of steaks. So yeah, I don't know,
1:01:49
Speaker 1: I just really really like this moment. So the episode
1:01:55
Speaker 1: ends with all of our friends hanging out and on
1:02:01
Speaker 1: the deck looking forward, and Nami says that this is
1:02:07
Speaker 1: the next island, like up ahead, we can it's I
1:02:11
Speaker 1: I can't remember. Actually, Namy's navigating and she's in a
1:02:14
Speaker 1: weird shirt that I'm almost positive I remember from the show.
1:02:18
Speaker 1: It says something weird. I have been enjoying watching her
1:02:22
Speaker 1: clothes because she's the one who's outfit like actually changes
1:02:25
Speaker 1: it up. But uh, I we don't get Like. I
1:02:30
Speaker 1: was thinking we were gonna be like, oh, there's the
1:02:32
Speaker 1: next island, and the camera would swing around and we
1:02:34
Speaker 1: would see the island ahead of the ship and get
1:02:37
Speaker 1: a bit of a hint what it was like and
1:02:40
Speaker 1: where we were going. And that doesn't happen. We don't
1:02:45
Speaker 1: see and I don't know are we going to choppers Island?
1:02:52
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be the snowy Island? I honestly don't
1:02:58
Speaker 1: remember the order in which things occur in the anime,
1:03:00
Speaker 1: and even if I did, I'm not sure they're gonna
1:03:03
Speaker 1: do what I remember, So who knows. I'm so curious
1:03:10
Speaker 1: to meet Chopper. But yeah, I'm pretty happy with this
1:03:17
Speaker 1: season already, Guys, I'm pretty happy with it. Somebody needs
1:03:21
Speaker 1: to really make this fucking amusement park. I want it
1:03:26
Speaker 1: very much, I really do. Nohuah says whatever the casting
1:03:31
Speaker 1: department is making it is not enough? Agreed. Yeah, So
1:03:37
Speaker 1: that's everything. That's it. I can't wait to watch the
1:03:40
Speaker 1: next one. I'm so excited. And I have to mention too,
1:03:43
Speaker 1: like the end credits are what do you call it?
1:03:49
Speaker 1: They're like close ups of maps and charts and things,
1:03:54
Speaker 1: and it's a very simple end credits, but I really
1:03:57
Speaker 1: really like it. I feel like credit sequences have gotten
1:04:03
Speaker 1: so overwrought, like there's a sense on some shows that
1:04:10
Speaker 1: like more thought went into what the credit sequence is
1:04:13
Speaker 1: going to be like than the show. And with this
1:04:16
Speaker 1: it's a very different vibe because the credits are at
1:04:21
Speaker 1: the end instead of at the beginning. And thus we
1:04:26
Speaker 1: just open with the hat on the bow blowing away
1:04:31
Speaker 1: and then that piece of wood that slides over to
1:04:33
Speaker 1: make the end for Netflix, and that's all we have
1:04:35
Speaker 1: for the opening, and then we launch right into the episode.
1:04:39
Speaker 1: And I just vastly prefer that at this point than
1:04:44
Speaker 1: sitting through a very clever opening credit sequence. We just
1:04:50
Speaker 1: don't need it, and this at the end just feels nice.
1:04:53
Speaker 1: I like it. So all right, I'm gonna wrap up,
1:04:57
Speaker 1: but thank you guys again so much for hanging out
1:04:59
Speaker 1: with me. Thank you Florian and Bernadette for commissioning these.
1:05:03
Speaker 1: I am super excited to keep going and until next
1:05:06
Speaker 1: time to the lou motherfuckers. That was an unspoiled network podcast.