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Best of the Bus: Sam Darnold Opens Up About Jets, Panthers, & What It's Like Playing With Cam Newton · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: So keep it up, keep going, love you, big hugs,
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  Speaker 1: tiny kisses, keep it up, Sam Donald, let's rip all. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're already in the same you know, this is actually
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  Speaker 1: my first time doing a podcast by myself. Not by myself,
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  Speaker 1: but like with somebody it's not Will Yeah, I could
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  Speaker 1: say I'm a little nervous right now. A man of
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  Speaker 1: your stature, We'll be all right, man, who's making news
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  Speaker 1: around the league everywhere right now?
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  Speaker 2: Really, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I've read a couple of things I'm saying, pay attention,
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  Speaker 1: So you don't pay attention to anything. No, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like that's a load of bullshit. Really absolutely, so you
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  Speaker 1: don't see any of the stuff people are saying. Things
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  Speaker 1: going on. It's not a healthy thing. But at the
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  Speaker 1: same time, it's like one of those deals, swear ye
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  Speaker 1: kind of forced to watch them.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's why it's cool when it gets brought up
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  Speaker 3: in person. Then they're like, exactly like you just did. Yeah, actually, no,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know any news that's come out about me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you can fill me in on everything.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have to in a little bit for sure. We're
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  Speaker 1: actually going right now too. By the way, Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: Busting with the Boys, outstanding citizen with us today, third
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  Speaker 1: overall pick in the twenty eighteen draft, Sam Donald, please
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  Speaker 1: give him a round of applause. Voice Electro Stack to
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  Speaker 1: have him on charismatic individual. I've actually met him once before.
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  Speaker 1: If you guys didn't know this, at the Rebel Ranch right, yep,
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  Speaker 1: we went. We were boozing together one day. Not a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot of boozing, but there were a couple of
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  Speaker 1: drinks passed around. Did you like the place?
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  Speaker 2: It was great? Yeah, live music all the.
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  Speaker 1: Brad Burberry right, yeah, he came up and how do
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  Speaker 1: you guys know each other? Same class here, Brad. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's all the same thing to me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he's a he's a great dude. We just
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  Speaker 3: connected through really our agency really just people that we
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  Speaker 3: know and then actually alignment that's on our team Pad
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  Speaker 3: offline is boys with him. Yeah, through like training and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: So uh but yeah, they're all great.
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  Speaker 2: Dudes, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Hey, the Salt of the Earth Cats And so
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  Speaker 1: you guys came up to Kve Creek. What brought you
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  Speaker 1: guys up there?
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  Speaker 2: Where were we that bar? Buffalo Chip?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, outstanding there.
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  Speaker 2: So we had a night out in Buffalo Chip and
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  Speaker 2: it was great.
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  Speaker 1: Do you guys watch the bull riding and everything. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's awesome. Give me one seconds. I'm already leaking. Boys,
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  Speaker 1: Holy shit, don't look at that. Don't look at it. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: what did JP watch yourself? Now?
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  Speaker 2: I know?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, sometimes you're sitting down in that chair a little
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  Speaker 1: bit and it's like, oh, the tarfs comes off a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. You guys, was the Buffalo Chip you saw
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  Speaker 1: bull writing, bull riding, the whole thing.
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  Speaker 3: Little line dancing is well, you know how to line dance?
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  Speaker 3: Don't know, but I tried. I tried really hard, and
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  Speaker 3: that's all that matters is the effort. Effort, Yeah, no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: What So did you learn? You learn how two? Step two?
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  Speaker 2: I've learned in the past.
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  Speaker 3: Just when I when we started line dancing and it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't going my way, Yeah, I just kind of stepped
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  Speaker 3: to the side, no doubt, just started, you know, doing
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  Speaker 3: my thing back and forth.
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  Speaker 1: That middle school thing. We kind of peer back and
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  Speaker 1: forth or staring at the other girls and we're waiting
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  Speaker 1: who's gonna make a move first type of deal.
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  Speaker 3: And then at Buffalo Chip, I feel like there were
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  Speaker 3: a lot of pros yeah out that night. Yeah, then
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  Speaker 3: you get down out there, dude. I give you a
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  Speaker 3: little hint online dancing. And this might just be my opinion,
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  Speaker 3: but I feel like you leave line dancing for the ladies, right.
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  Speaker 3: They go out there, they get in their lines, they
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  Speaker 3: enjoy themselves and do all that two step in where
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  Speaker 3: it's at.
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  Speaker 1: It was out Uh, I was. I was actually in
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  Speaker 1: Arizona this weekend, and I have a buddy out there.
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  Speaker 1: Bo Campbell guy can absolutely two step with the best.
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  Speaker 1: When he's stolen women around. There's no gravity when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to that man dancing. It's it's outstandless. Got way
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  Speaker 1: too drunk. I had no idea. It was one of
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  Speaker 1: those little Sipper deals and it would just it turned
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  Speaker 1: on me real fast. It's not about me, this is
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  Speaker 1: about you.
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  Speaker 2: Now. Let's keep going.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let's just talk about it. Let's keep the trade. Mell.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to high school. I went to Chaparral High School.
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  Speaker 1: I went to Michigan. But you went to high school
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  Speaker 1: and you didn't just play football basketball player too.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Was there ever a point in your life where you're like,
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  Speaker 1: I want to do basketball instead of football?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, early on, I say, uh, I would say
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  Speaker 3: basketball is probably my first love Kobe growing up. The
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  Speaker 3: man my dad is a huge Lakers fan, obviously turned
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  Speaker 3: me into a Lakers fan as well. You know, even
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  Speaker 3: when the Lakers weren't winning a ton, he was so
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  Speaker 3: fun to watch. I mean just you know, it would
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  Speaker 3: it could be middle of season, regular season game and
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  Speaker 3: he'd be going all out, like they could be losing
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  Speaker 3: by twenty and he'd be playing in the.
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  Speaker 2: Last few minutes of the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 3: It was just like, you know, and I didn't even
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  Speaker 3: really recognize that as a young kid.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but i mean, get older, you appreciate a way more.
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  Speaker 2: Huerca hundred percent.
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  Speaker 3: So it was just, yeah, didn't even didn't even realize
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  Speaker 3: that at the time, but he was such an inspiration
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  Speaker 3: for me and you know, I'm sure a lot of
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  Speaker 3: other kids. But it was fun to watch grow up
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  Speaker 3: and watch that, and so that's kind of how I
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  Speaker 3: fell in love with basketball, and then uh yeah, just
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  Speaker 3: ended up loving it and then starting to get into
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  Speaker 3: football a little bit later on, like third grade, and
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  Speaker 3: uh just played I played basketball, football, and baseball. Those
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  Speaker 3: are like the three that I just rotated around. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: throughout my childhood growing up and really throughout until freshman year.
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  Speaker 3: Of high school and then uh, I played basketball up
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  Speaker 3: until my senior year of high school and that was
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  Speaker 3: the last year I played basketball.
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  Speaker 1: So you didn't do any pickups at USC or any
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  Speaker 1: thing like that.
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  Speaker 2: We did.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but another rest or whatever, dunk on some
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  Speaker 1: little nerds.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing'll work out in yeah, off season grind yeah, no
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  Speaker 3: question boys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, I cannot play basketball all but all
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  Speaker 1: the boys would go out there, hang out and play
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  Speaker 1: basketball there though. Yeah, I'll get no easy buckets. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: no easy buckets. Yeah, absolutely, past it back and forth,
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  Speaker 1: over and over again. Invent the alley oop. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you would, you would throw it though you're not
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  Speaker 3: dunking though, No.
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  Speaker 1: I can I get. I used to be able to.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I can dunk anymore. The boy
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  Speaker 1: had a thirty and a half. Okay, you know that
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  Speaker 1: little vert was kind of nice, yeah, or in mind
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  Speaker 1: it was just like twenty five twenty six bad. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was looking at on the Wikipedia pan.
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  Speaker 2: I'm on one one one foot jumper.
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  Speaker 1: We were in the same forty as well, did we? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead? Yeah, well, well you know it's in the
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  Speaker 2: beginning of this whole thing. Well, you know what was
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  Speaker 2: what was the ten? What was the split? One?
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  Speaker 1: Matter one six four?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably fastened me too, but you don't.
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  Speaker 1: You don't got to run that fast. You kind of
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  Speaker 1: got wheels, so you did. Like Pat Mahomes, You guys
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  Speaker 1: can get around a little bit. Yeah yeah, game speed,
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  Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And so when you went to USC, you
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  Speaker 1: were going there to play linebacker? No, you they wanted
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  Speaker 1: you to play linebacker at first.
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  Speaker 3: So I got recruited. So there was some old lineman.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you know the name Kyle Murphy
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  Speaker 3: or Josh Garnett.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know those names.
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  Speaker 3: No, So they went to Stanford played lineman. He was
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  Speaker 3: a left tackle at Stanford, but they went to my
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  Speaker 3: high school or sorry, Cayl. Murphy went to my high school,
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  Speaker 3: not Josh, but uh. And then Sean Harlowe. Do you
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  Speaker 3: know that name at all? Place for the Falcons Oregon State?
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  Speaker 1: Do we know the name back there? Boys? If it's
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  Speaker 1: not forty nine ers plus?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, both really good prospects out of same high school.
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  Speaker 3: So we had some you know, packed twelve schools that
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  Speaker 3: would come around, and they recruited me and but at
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  Speaker 3: the time, I was playing linebacker and receiver my sophomore year,
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  Speaker 3: and and uh I remember Oseron.
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  Speaker 2: Oseron had like one of the little film cameras.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, uh and he was like filming me doing linebacker drills.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, I thought this guy was was
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  Speaker 3: here for you know, the scene yours who are getting
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  Speaker 3: recruited to play to play at see And he was
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  Speaker 3: just like, no, like I want to film this dude, Darnald,
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  Speaker 3: Like he looks like he's he's got some athletic ability.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like a buck, you know, buck ninety
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  Speaker 3: at the time, same same height. I was tall early on,
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  Speaker 3: but uh yeah, I was a skinny, skinny little linebacker
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  Speaker 3: who just get tossed around.
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  Speaker 2: By left tackles in our league.
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  Speaker 3: But I was playing like three four, uh like Sam
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  Speaker 3: or no Will at the time. So I was like
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  Speaker 3: kind of on the line of scrimmage trying to fight
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  Speaker 3: off tight ends and tackles when they were trying to
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  Speaker 3: run block.
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  Speaker 2: So that was fun at one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and there were kids that there were like tackles
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  Speaker 3: and guards that were bushing three hundred in our league.
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  Speaker 1: Really, yeah, for sure. Yeah, California's got a good ball
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  Speaker 1: out there. A lot of people like to shoot on California.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a fad of the deal.
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  Speaker 2: People do like to show on California.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people in this bus actually, Oh
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  Speaker 3: really in California?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Is that? Who is that? We want to point fingers?
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  Speaker 2: No, we're not pointing fingers, but in this general areas
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  Speaker 2: or in this general area. No, it's in this general area.
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  Speaker 1: Tea. We'll leave it. Yeah, fair enough to you with
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  Speaker 1: three letters. Shit on California ball, it's like a top five,
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  Speaker 1: top five state. You gotta he just talks a lot
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  Speaker 1: about SEC and where you're from. Team it means a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more. Oh you're from here, you're a balls guy.
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  Speaker 1: Gotta respect the balls. Their fan base is out of control.
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  Speaker 1: Their fan base is insane. Michigan. Michigan beat the Balls
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  Speaker 1: in basketball to go to the Sweet sixteen. And I
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  Speaker 1: put out one tweet of Juwan Howard slapping the tea
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  Speaker 1: and holy shit. Now, obviously most of my followers are
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee fans living in Tennessee. But it was a bloodbath.
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  Speaker 1: They remind me of the Buffalo Bills, that Bill's mafia.
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  Speaker 1: You got that tea mafia out there. But but California.
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  Speaker 1: Do is they written now California, Ohio, Georgia, Alabama, Florida?
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  Speaker 1: Is that the top five? Or Pennsylvania too? That's another one.
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  Speaker 1: He can't sleep on that team. Yeah, Louisiana is like that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know that that's recent though, that's pretty recent.
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  Speaker 1: So when ozeron cam had this little cam corder on you,
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  Speaker 1: filming you up when you're a buck ninety, did you
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  Speaker 1: think to yourself, Oh, I'm going to the league now.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, I had no idea, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, I didn't really know what a scholarship offer was
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  Speaker 3: until I got offered my first one.
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  Speaker 1: Who was your first offer?
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  Speaker 2: A University of Utah?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Hell yeah, you dude, absolutely yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So they offered me after my sophomore year.
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  Speaker 3: I played like two games at the end of the
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  Speaker 3: season at quarterback because the starter got hurt, and they
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  Speaker 3: offered me based on some tape that they saw those
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  Speaker 3: two games. And then I've liked some drills that I
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  Speaker 3: did for him during the spring. Crazy yeah, And so
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  Speaker 3: he offered me the scholarship. He was like, hey, man, like,
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  Speaker 3: we want to offer you a scholarship to play football
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  Speaker 3: at the University of Utah and I was like, okay
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  Speaker 3: at quarterback after two games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was like okay, cool.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I didn't really know like what it entailed
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  Speaker 3: or like he was like you pretty excited about it
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  Speaker 3: or you just I was just very like kind of monotone, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm very excited, thank you, coach, Like can't wait to
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  Speaker 3: you know, continue talking to you whatever. And he goes
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  Speaker 3: and tells my parents, Like right after that, I just
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  Speaker 3: see my mom melt.
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  Speaker 2: She's just crying, yeah, everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm just like, I think this is a little
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  Speaker 3: bit bigger deal than I than I thought, right, And
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: so they're like yeah, Like my dad kind of explained
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  Speaker 3: it to me in the in the head coach. He
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  Speaker 3: was just like, dude, you're like, you're going to get
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  Speaker 3: offered like full tuition to go to the school just
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  Speaker 3: to play ball and like potentially have a chance.
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  Speaker 2: At going to the league.
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  Speaker 1: That's incredible.
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  Speaker 3: And so I don't know, I think it was kind
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  Speaker 3: of cool to, you know, live my entire kind of
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  Speaker 3: childhood and my high school life not really knowing what
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  Speaker 3: you know, I was necessarily going for, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: wasn't ever trying to get an offer, you know, but
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  Speaker 3: it just it just happened.
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  Speaker 1: And so when you were growing up playing ball, you
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  Speaker 1: never thought I'm going to be an NFL football player.
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  Speaker 1: Someday I'm gonna be NBA basketball player or MLB.
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  Speaker 3: You always I always dreamed of playing in professional sports,
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  Speaker 3: yeah and something, but I didn't know necessarily kind of
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  Speaker 3: the steps to get there. I was just like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I want to play I want to play professional ball.
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  Speaker 2: Do something. And uh so I.
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  Speaker 3: Was just like, dang, like, you know, I guess the
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  Speaker 3: next step would be called yeah.
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  Speaker 1: High school, right right? Yeah, that's so. Usually football is
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  Speaker 1: just a segular line trajectory of where you're gonna go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So uh yeah, So I got offered and I was yeah,
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  Speaker 3: after they kind of you know, told me what it
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  Speaker 3: was and what was going on. Then, uh they told
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  Speaker 3: me they're just like I was just you know, so happy,
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  Speaker 3: so happy about you know, the situation. And it's funny
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  Speaker 3: like once you get that first offer, I mean you
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  Speaker 3: know how it is, it just starts rolling in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you got on your sophomore year. That's kind
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  Speaker 1: of is that a normal? One guy that dude from
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  Speaker 1: Michigan he got won in eighth grade, which is kind
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  Speaker 1: of while, did you have an kids at your school
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  Speaker 1: that were getting offers like that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean oh not my no, no, no, not
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  Speaker 3: in my high school. But obviously, you know, you got guys.
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  Speaker 3: He got guys, and you know, like David Sills, who
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  Speaker 3: now plays receiver I think for the Giants. He played
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  Speaker 3: at West Virginia, I believe, and uh he was like
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  Speaker 3: one of the top recruited kids in California to play
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  Speaker 3: quarterback and ended up getting offered in seventh grade I believe,
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  Speaker 3: by like Lane Kiffin at SC Yeah, and uh it
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  Speaker 3: was insane.
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  Speaker 1: It is zero puba care on his body, and he's
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  Speaker 1: just they're just gonna all of a sudden give him an.
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  Speaker 2: Hey that's you know, he might have he might have.
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  Speaker 1: You know some seventh graders did. Yeah. You know Luke
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  Speaker 1: Stedman when I was in middle school, okay, was a hosts.
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  Speaker 1: He had a receding hairline at twelve years old. It
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  Speaker 1: was unbelievable. So you get you get the utes, and
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  Speaker 1: so you're kind of like, hey, I guess I'm just
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  Speaker 1: going to college now this is gonna happen. What happened
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  Speaker 1: after that? Who who are the next ones to fall
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  Speaker 1: in line?
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  Speaker 2: Shoot? It was kind of other packed twelve.
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  Speaker 1: Schools and you didn't start playing quarterback till your junior year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like full time. Uh so yeah, kind of that
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  Speaker 3: off season. Yeah, we're going into the junior year, I
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  Speaker 3: started playing more quarterback, but uh yeah, man, it was
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  Speaker 3: just packed twelve schools A couple.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was just Tennessee.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, you offered me, uh and then and then yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and then it was like Big ten like Penn State
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  Speaker 3: some other ones.
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  Speaker 1: But do you get Michigan?
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  Speaker 3: I didn't. You know, It's funny. Uh, Right, when Harbaugh
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  Speaker 3: got the Michigan job, he called me really mm hmm yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and uh he was kind of pitching and I was
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  Speaker 3: just like, hey, like, I've committed to U s C.
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  Speaker 3: Like this is after like right when I was about
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  Speaker 3: to start my senior year, and uh I was like listen,
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  Speaker 3: like I made a commitment to go to SC.
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  Speaker 2: Like I appreciate you reaching out.
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  Speaker 3: But so yeah, he did reach out, and you know
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  Speaker 3: assume that he would have probably offered me, but I
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  Speaker 3: didn't even let him get that far.
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  Speaker 2: I was just like, I'm I'm going to SC.
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  Speaker 1: Loyal cat. Huh yeah, I mean, dude, I grew up
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  Speaker 1: an SC fan. Yeah, I mean you grew up with
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: Matt Lioner, Reggie Bush, those dudes.
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: That was primetime SC ball and I was you know,
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: that was my childhood, you know what I mean.
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: So, and Pete Carroll was the dude too, man.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he played SC perfectly, did all the stuff he
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: needed to do, get the stations.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, will Ferrell coming in doing practice? Do you guys
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: anything like that? S it right?
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: We never did, dude, But we were coaches at I
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: was with so Sark.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: I was with Sark for about a year and a
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: half and then Clay took over as the interim and
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: then ended up getting the job after that that first
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: year where we uh we had a pretty good year.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: That's awesome here. Yeah. So when you when you were
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: coming out, as soon as you offered by the youths,
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: You're like, I want to go to s C. The
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: whole time, I want to go to SC.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: I always wanted to go to s C. Yeah.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: So when they offered, it was done deal.
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was because they offered late too, Like I
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: was actually went on a some official visits. I went
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: to Duke Northwestern, uh, and then I went to Oregon.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Why'd you to Duke, what'd you in Northwestern?
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: I wanted to write, I, H no, I'm not.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: Actually, well, Duke's a good school, right I thought I was,
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: But uh no, Duke's a grade school Northwestern too. But
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: I I really liked fits who's the coach at Northwestern.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: I like Cutcliffe a lot, just knowing his background with
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: the Mannings and stuff. I was like, you know, I
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: want to get to know this guy and potentially play
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: for him.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: I think it'd be sick. Yeah, and uh so that
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: was kind of my.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: Mindset with that, and then went to Oregon after that.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: So I went Duke Northwestern Oregon, and then I came
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: back down to do a camp like last minute at
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: SC they had like a middle school camp going on.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: And then I was throwing.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: I was like thrown in the mix because Sark wanted
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: to see me throw in person.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: You'd never seen me throw in person. So I threw
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: for him.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: I probably like fifty balls, just kind of warming up,
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: and then on the run, just really like low key workout.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: And then he took me in his office and offered
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: me on the spot there and I thought about it.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: You know, I made the whole list pros and cons
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: where I wanted to go top three schools and and
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: uh you know that was once I made the pros
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: and cons list, I was like pros for sc yeah,
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: and then there were no cons.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it was over for you.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, this is pretty easy.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Can see me play great education, great ball. Grew up
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: a fan like grew up in.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: San Clementy, right, yeah, outstanding town. If you ever been
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: to San Clementy would have been I have been. I
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: was like fifteen sixteen. I had a girlfriend who was
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: pretty rich, so they go out there in the summertime.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: It was a nice thing. Oh yeah, oh yeah, smart,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: big family Italian girl.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: He was awesome. Shout out Laura Shockley. But we would
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: go to San Clementy all the time. Yeah, we got
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: San Clementty. Was it was awesome. Yeah, she hates my
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: guts probably now. Shout out hey, Laura, good to say.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: You mean out here, motherfucking me. How do you feel
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: about that? What side do you want with Chris Rock
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: and Will Smith?
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: What a weird pivot? Yeah yeah, uh no, I mean
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: you can't you can't hit anyone.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're on the Chris Rock.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Sideyeah, and it's it was a joke, but you know,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: whether whether the joke was bad taste or not, you know,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: it's you can't just you can't go up and smack someone.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah like that. Yeah, I've we talked about on the
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: podcast last week and it kind of seemed like it's alopecia. Right.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get that wrong because I feel
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: like it's insecure if I what to call it last
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: week propecia propicia, which is like to save the hair thing,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: and I just think that I don't know, it depends
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: like there's a lot of women Jada included, who look
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: beautiful right with the shade head, I had no issue
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: with it, and I think anything's fair with comedy when
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: it comes to you know what I'm saying, less you're white,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: saying the N word, that's probably a big no no,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: right Yeah, Yeah, probably shouldn't go down that road.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Other than that, Yeah, I think you're pretty fair game
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: and that there might be another couple.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but anything off the top of your head you're
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: thinking of you question, No, No, not at all.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but uh no, that was yeah, I mean I
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: don't know, I don't even know if if he knew
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: that she had it or I don't even know if
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: it was his joke. That's the other thing is like
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: did he write it himself? He didn't, right, I mean,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: even even then, he's got to take responsibility because he
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: said it. Yeah, so, I mean, but at the end
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: of the day, it's it's a joke and Chris Rock's
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: there to And you gotta know if if you're at
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: the Oscars and you're sitting in front row.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: You're gonna get roasted a little bit.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I thing too when they showed Will
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Smith sitting there, he was like smiling, having a good time.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Have you seen the whole clip?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: And then he looks over, Yeah, how to go defend
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: her honor? Yeah?
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought his reaction was perfect though, the way
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Chris Rock handled it, He's like, wow, what a what
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: a fucking pro dude?
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: What a pro though, Oh, there's no question he start
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: saying documentary instead of Oscar, Like had a whole bunch
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: of stuff going on. But I think all of us
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: in here if he slapped me, We've talked about this.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: You get slapped for what other man? You like to
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: think level of heads will prevail, But like, I mean,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: do you getting poked in the chest in general, someone
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't like just goes right up to your chest toppokes you.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: You kind of want to kill that person immediately, right,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: So imagine getting open hands slapped.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Imagine if that just broke out in the huge fight.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I think Chris Rock would get his ass be he would,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: you would absolutely get his ass.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Be well, yeah, he's probably gotten I mean, listen, he's
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: a he's a stand up comedian who has done a
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: million shows.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Right, that's probably happened to him and the stand up committy.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think there a bunch of tough guys in there,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: like too off the top of the head, Shob and Rogan,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: the two d's that are probably gonna be mask other
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: than that, Like you don't think, I mean, Chris Rock's
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: tiny's five to seven, yeah, fifty four years old or whatever.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: He is absolute legend, legend. But he starts swinging. It
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: would have made it, I mean, it would have been
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: outstanding TV. Would be talking for an hour longer.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Got it right when right when he landed the shot
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: and when he got back up to the mic, he
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: was like, this is the greatest night in television.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is such a great job. Yeah, such a
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: great job.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: It was well, he handled it perfectly.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it would have been better if
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: he just said keep my wife's name afterr fucking mouth
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and then it just was that was it. But then
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: he just kept going, Yeah, it was a bad deal.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: And then he goes up and does that two and
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: a half minute speech. Did you know were you watching
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: it live?
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't watch it live.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I wasn't either. Yeah. I see the Twitter and it's thriving,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: it's going off on there, and you immediately go to
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: try to zoom in find it, shout out Japan. Japan
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: had the whole thing for us.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: No, I don't know how how fast it was after
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: he slapped Chris Rock But how fast? What How quick
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: was the turnaround with him winning the award and going up.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: And give him the speech. It was like twenty minutes, right,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: that's crazy. Yeah, and so he's got to go up.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: He's talking about being a protector and stuff like that.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: And it was his first Oscar as well. God hey,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: and then he he just resigned from the Academy. He
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: just came out the other day and said I'm going
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to resign, which I don't know what that means. Is
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: that mean he's done acting or he's just no longer
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: affiliated with the PA or whatever they are. He can't
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: go to the oscars. I tell you he's got the information.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: He just can't go to the award ships anymore. But
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: he can still win stuff.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: He's still good.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's will Smith that he's not going anywhere. If anything,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: he probably just got another action movie work on that.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: That the hit movement. That would be a hell of
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a golfer. Yeah, hell of a golfer.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: A quarterback.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: So we go to sc How do we do it? SCE?
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: We read shirted our first year.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, I read shirt the first year, which I
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: knew I was gonna do. So, you know how a
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: lot of quarterbacks go early cool, So I didn't do that.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: I just went in the summer because I knew.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do it all.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I played basketball, went to prom, did all the cool
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: senior stuff to do. You know, as if if I
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: wouldn't have done that and then sat for a year,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: it's like what am.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I doing now? Exactly? Yeah?
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: So yeah, red shirted, red shirted s S sat behind
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Cody Kessler and then we're back. Competition started that next
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: year with Max Brown, it was another you know, five
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: star kid coming out. I had to sit for a
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: few years to wait a shot, wait for a shot,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: and then uh yeah, and then he ended up winning
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: the competition, ended up playing for three games, I believe,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: and then I started the fourth one. We lost that one,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: so we started one and three and then we didn't
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: lose a game after that.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Well, it was going through your mind when he won
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the competition. He's obviously, you guys are going back and
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: forth all campus when they tell you that, hey, you're
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: not gonna be the starter week one.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Basically what uh what coach said was just.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: We got to make the best decision for the team.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: And that was basically it, you know how it is.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: It was like, very we got to do what's best
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: for the team, and what's best for the team is
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: that Max starts for us, really and so that was
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: it was very, very simple, which I respected because I
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: was like, how am I going to argue with that?
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: You know, the coach thinks that he's better than me
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: and that he gives us the best chance to win,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Like do I disagree? Yes, obviously, But that wasn't you know,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: that wasn't for me to say. I was just yeah,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: I just kind of took it and uh handled it
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: how I handled it, And that was really it.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: And so you weren't pissed off at all by that.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I will, so I'll go back a little bit.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: He he did mention me getting a package for like
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: red zone stuff and some stuff for me to like
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: run the ball in the red zone on third and short,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: third and fourth and short, and so that that kind
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: of got me a little uh irritated. But I mean
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: everything that he said was spot on. I Mean, he
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: was like, he gives us the best best chance to win,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: but at the same time, we envision you having like
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: a red zone package and a third and fourth and
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: one package. And so I was just like, yes, coach,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: because I'm like a you know, nineteen eighteen, nineteen year old.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Uh, I was just like, all right, sounds good.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was much more mouthy than that,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I'm sure. Yeah, my rush for freshman yar. They told
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: me I wasn't starting. I told the coach to go
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: fuck himself. Yeah, but hey, that's that's how it works sometimes,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: you know. I definitely said that in my head. Yeah,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, sometimes I gotta let him know.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, things are going your way.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: You gotta say fuck you on the way the deal
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: works sometimes. So the first three games go on, Yeah,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and then what happens this guy he gets hurt, right, No,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: he just got benched, just shitty throwing an iron. T's
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: left and right.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: So he just I mean, I'm still friends with es
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: this day.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Here's a great guy. To shoot on him. Yeah, I'm
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: sure he's a great guy. He's awesome.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah I had to say that, but no, he is,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: he really is. But uh yeah, that was probably the
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: weirdest part, to be honest, because we're we're boys my
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: freshman year because he was kind of showing me the
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: ropes and you know, when I was going out at SC,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: we were kind of hanging out and you know, he
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: was taking me to parties, doing all that stuff, big
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: brother stuff, and then all of a sudden, we're in
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: a competition together and it was like, right, I guess
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: that's over, you know.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: What I mean?
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, doing any.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Of that stuff anymore, partying together anymore, and nothing like that.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: So so that was kind of the weird part because
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I was, you know, we had the same friend group,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: you know, boys with you know, everyone on the team
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: and then some of the kids outside of outside of
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: football as well.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: But you know, it's just part of the deal.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: And uh yeah, So I thought the way that he
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: handled it was insane though, just perfect, the way that
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: he was just he never even said anything in the
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: media about me or anything.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: He just you handled it like a bro supported you. Yeah.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: That's awesome, dude. I love that when so you play
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: those games and then you go on, then you play
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: the next year. You guys win the PAC twelve championship, correct, Yes,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: win the PAC twelve championship, and then we get to
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen draft and there's kind of the three
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: guys that everyone's talking about, Baker Mayfield, you and Josh Rosen. Yeah,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and now you and Baker. Well, Baker's pretty outspoken to
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: but you seem like a guy kind of like keep
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: to himself, don't stay a whole lot, don't read a
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff. What are you thinking when you see
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Josh Rosen staying some mountland as shit, going to UCLA?
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's just it's hard. It makes it
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: just it makes life harder.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, why why does it make it harder on you.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: What do you mean you said it makes life harder
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: for him? Oh, yes, that's why.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I don't, you know, I choose not to and like honestly,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: like I would, I wouldn't.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just not in me to like
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: do stuff like that.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: And now I do have you know, I have great
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: friends in a great circle, you know, great family that
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: you know, if there's some shit that I got to
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: get off my chest, like yeah, everyone has it, you
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, But going through the media and
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: making a scene about it, that's you know, it's just
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: harder to live life that way.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. I mean, it makes
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: it a little bit more fun sometimes you can.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: It's fun if you do well right, right, But if
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: you're the tenth overall pick getting traded the next year
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: and then it doesn't have happened the way it's happened
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: to him, yeah, it's not it's not a good deal.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: And saying for Baker too, he seems like he's in
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: a bit of a deal right now. So if all
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: three of those quarterbacks you're doing the best, Yeah, you're
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: doing well, argue Yeah, Oh, absolutely so, Baker. I mean
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Baker's got to find himself a new home. How do
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: you what did you think about him when he came
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: out with like a see a later letter to the Browns,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: even before they got Deshaun Watson.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a tough deal, right because.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: You got you got, you know, people that you think
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: are loyal to you in terms of you know, whatever
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: it is in his circle at the Browns, coaches owner, GM,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: whatever it is for him saying that they're you know,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: he's their guy, all this stuff, all the promises that
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: they make, and then all of a sudden, there's rumors
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: going out, not necessarily rumors, but you know, factual you know,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: information out that you know, they're looking to potentially get
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: to Sean Watson, and you know that might hit a
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: you know, that might hit to the core a little
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: bit for him. Yeah, And so that's again, it's not
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: not for me to really comment a ton on because
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: I don't you know, I don't I'm not gonna choose.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on in Cleveland.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a it's a tough deal, man, Yeah,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: because you know, it's hot throughout business.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, not to get corny, but it is, yeah,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and you go third, you go a third overall to
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the Jets. And was Adam Gase to coach then? Or
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: was the that was that the year after? No, he
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: was so Todd Bowles. Todd Bowles the coach.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Bulls was our head coach in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen season,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: and then uh yeah, I love Todd and mccagnum was
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: our GM and they were the ones who drafted me,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: took me in. And then that next year Bulls gets fired,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: they bring in Adam Gase and mccagne is still the GM,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: and then the next year they bring in Joe Douglas
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: GM with Adam Gase as the head coach, and.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: So like, hey, you hear all that stuff. Adam Gaze
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: is the dude that does like the weird eye thing
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: right when he's getting what he's interviewed.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like was he just a crazy person or what
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: was the deal?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Adams? Great?
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: He's a good you loved him?
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Great? Dude? Yeah, I love Adam.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Because I was watching I was watching some stuff and
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I was watching the YouTube video of like the Patriots
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: game obviously a tough one out there, and then I
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: was watching stuff after they're like Adam Gase didn't do
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: anything to help you. They didn't do slide predictions, no,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: like seven man pros, you know, checkdowns, none of that stuff.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: What was going on during that game where he like
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: did he come and say anything to you or anything
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: like that?
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean we just watched the tape.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: We you know, we talked about some stuff, and you know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: there were there were definitely some things where I could
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: have done a lot more with the protection that helped
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: me out. But it was just, for lack of a
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: better term, it was a cluster, uh, you know, out
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: on the field and trying to you know, because Bill
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: and that that whole tree Flores, Patricia all those guys.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: If you can't figure out there's zero pressure and you
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: don't have an answer, we're going to keep bringing it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when they bring seven up, you think they're bringing zero. Yeah,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: so you think if you get the ball out real fast,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they drop and then only
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: rushing three or four.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, and then the next time they bring them
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: all the one guy that rushes is the guy that
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: you slide away from.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: So it's like there's just there's there's a lot of
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: there's good ways to handle it and there's bad ways
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: to handle it, and you know, we didn't.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: We didn't handle it the best that you could have.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: When you say that was stuffy you could have done
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: for protection? Yeah, was it like a development thing for
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: you when you didn't know protection very well?
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I think it was just.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Kind of getting things lined up to start and then understanding, Okay,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: I have five seconds on the play clock, like one
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: of those like damn, Like you know, I was trying
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: to figure stuff out with the receivers, like trying to
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: give them signals, and I think it was more just
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: trying to We should have been more in and out
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: of the huddle, and we were that game.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I think that was really the biggest issue.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: And then we started going on the ball and it
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: helped a little bit, but I mean, yeah, we didn't.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: We didn't have great answers for it.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Is there anything you said to the guys like, hey,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: we got to get to the line faster so I
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: can kind of dissect this.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Thing for sure? I mean that was that was one
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: of the first things I said.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: And then we started going no huddle, which I did
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: quite a bit of with Adam, which you know, he
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: did a lot of with Peyton in Denver, and so
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: that was kind of that was kind of the go
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: to if we were kind of struggling or in a rut,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: we would go to the no huddle stuff and try
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: to get on the ball and create some tempo for us.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: But then again, like you start to go tempo and
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: you go three and out, it's the defense in a
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: shitty position, real bad position.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: And another thing about tempo too, is when you go
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: tempo or a two minute type of situation, usually vanilla's
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: down the defense quite a bit because they have to
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: get ready to they have to get a line up.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I don't have time to make those.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so they were just bringing zero the whole time. Yeah,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: that was really putting the pressure on you. Was Yeah,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: that was when we started going no huddle. They were like,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: all right, we'll just keep calling it. Yeah, and uh yeah,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: it was just a tough day and.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: You had the unanimous staying saying you got you were
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: seeing ghosts out there, right. Yeah, Well like, hey, that's
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: a tough meme.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah it is.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: No, it's a it's a tough thing to uh to handle,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: you know, to this day.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: But uh so when all that, when all that stuff cycling,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: what do you what are you thinking about that?
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: It's it's interesting because like in our room, in a
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: quarterback room, we would we would see guys kind of
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: like in the pocket, you know, you have some quarterbacks
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: flinch a little bit.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: We would say, oh, they're seeing ghost out there.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: And so like I just like said that to my
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: coach at the time, you know, when we were down
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: forty to nothing. Yea, I was just pissed and I
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: didn't know what to say, to be honest, and it
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: just it happened.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And they they got it on live TV. So you
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: think that were you miked up? Oh you fucked up. Yeah,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: that's on you.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I was hoping it'd be like a coach or something
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: like that, but you you sold yourself out.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: No, it's for sure on me. I'll take that one
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: of the grave. I'll take that one to the grave.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Shout doubt.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Dude. That's gotta be a tough deal. But hey, listen,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: everyone has bad games. It's tough, yeeah.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: And listen, that was that was the worst game by
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: far that I've ever played in my life. And I
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: own up to it.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to own up to it. But that
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: week after, like you play Sunday and then Monday you're
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: just like.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: No, it was Monday night, so Tuesday morning, Tuesday morning.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Thank god. It's a short week though, Yeah, one less
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: way to move on you want to, Yeah, because that stuff, man,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: when you when you have one of those games, like
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I have my we talk about all the time of
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: week one. You kind of sit there and we played
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: at noon on Sunday, so I had the full week
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: to think about I'm just a piece of shit, now,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: aren't I. I'm just I'm garbage out here.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: And then pay attention to the media and oh hey listen,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: start saying, ah, you know you suck, dude. Yeah, try
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: to go find a different profession.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: It's it's bad too. Are just wild? Yeah? Should I
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: do something different?
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe they're right, Yeah, it's dude.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: It's it's just crazy how people want to manipulate things
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: and if you go one bad game or something happens,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: especially being at quarterback, I feel like it's part of
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: the deal. But at quarterback, you you live and die
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: with the franchise. Like if things are going well, it's like, wow,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: this dude's just stud But look how great the defense is.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Look how good wide receivers are. But when things aren't good,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: they're like, it's Sam, it's his fault, it's the quarterback's fault.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Does that seem fair to you to have all that
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: kind of pressure all the time for quarterbacks, not just
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: for you.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: I think it is for sure. Why is that the money?
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: I mean the money that's you know, there's.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: A thirty million dollar deal of twenty years what time
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: twenty million signing about us?
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: It was something like that.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know exactly.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: What it was.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Don't do that. I don't do that, dude.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: But uh no, but it's again, like I'm half joking
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: about the money thing. You get ready all week and
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: you know there's a reason that the franchise lives and
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: dies with the quarterback. Yeah, because you're the one out there.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: You got the ball in your hand every single play.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Like and it really has become more and more as
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: as the game keeps progressing, it's becoming more and more
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: of a quarterback league, and you know, it's it's great.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: You know, I think it's great for the game. You know,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: like when numbers are going up, you know, passing statistics
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: are going up, I think it's great.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: TV.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: You know, for people to watch and all that. But yeah,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: it's kind of my take on it. But I really
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: do think it. You know, some of it's not warranted,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: don't get me wrong. There's some stuff that people say
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: that you know, yeah, people put a keyboard coach and
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: they know exactly what's going on. They really have no idea.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: That that part's tough. And then you know there's sometimes
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: where like some guy gets it.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Like spot on.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: You know, he's like the keyboard coast and he's like
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: he's like, dude, should have seen this, like to the left.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: You should have slid it to the left and got
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: the back out. You're like, dang, dude, He's right, yeah.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I should have. I should have done that. That's so funny, dude.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: But but no, it's it really happens. But uh yeah, man,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: it's it's part of the deal.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Do you do a lot of mental work at all
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: during the off season anything like that.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: I I started to a little bit a couple of
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: years ago, just working with someone who not even for football.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: It was just to kind of clear my mind. And
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: then there's some you know, just some low key like
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: meditation that I would do, like just by myself, like
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: in the morning or at night before I go to bed,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: and uh, just clear clear in my head.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: But do you use an app? Do you like do
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: you like the call map or something with that headspace?
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: It's a little bit.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just mess with a little bit if I
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: feel like I need it or if I feel like
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: i'm you know, why am I feeling a certain way?
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean? So sometimes I feel
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: like I need it more more days than others. But
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: I think all that stuff's great though. Yeah, I think
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: there's I don't think you can talk enough about mental health,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: and especially in the NFL.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Why do you think it's become such a thing lately
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and in the last three four years, it's really the
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: mental health has people have talked about so much more
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: than they have in the past.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: I just think there's so much more attention around things
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: that wouldn't otherwise get attention because of social media. You know,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: you have such a you have such more of a
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: you're just kind of a fly on the wall in
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: anyone's life now, you know, if you follow whoever it
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: is like Dak Prescott, you know, talking about mental health
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: I think is great, you know, because you look on
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Sundays and you look on the field and he's rushing
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: it and you're like, dude, this guy makes you know,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: He's just killing life in general.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Like he's throwing touchdowns, he's playing for the Dallas Cowboys,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: like you almost feel like he's invincible. And then all
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: of a sudden he comes out with you know, all
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: these mental struggles that he's been dealing with, and you know,
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: you don't realize it, but a lot of a lot
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: of people deal with the same stuff, you know, huge actors,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: a bunch of different people.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Do you think that like the mental side of things
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: has kind of been brought up more because, like you said,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: so many people have more access and like a lot
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: of these guys and like the old school dudes played
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: ten twenty thirty years ago, like this is so soft now,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: but they don't realize that it used to be a
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: newspaper clipping and that would be your news and what
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: happened in the game before, and you wouldn't see what
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: everybody else is saying. But now to click up a button,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: you can learn what everybody's thinking about you always great point.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point. I think it is different.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I think everything's just different.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think to now there are there are some
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: times where I'm like, okay that, you know, that's pretty soft.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: You know some of the things that would happen in
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: terms of you know, guys, you know, missing practice for
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: one thing or the other.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: You know, I think.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: There's there's a lot of like the basketball talk I
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: think is very interesting, like when you hear when you
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: hear guys like Michael Jordan, Larry Bird criticizing guys for
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: like missing games during the middle of the season, and
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: you know, I get some of that, but now, you know,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: you look at guys like Lebron who like to do that,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: and Lebron's and what his nineteenth eighteenth, nineteenth years as
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: he's a freaking machine.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: And so when that when a.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Guy like that sits out a game and gets a
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: bunch of flag for it, I'm like, dude, you can't.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: You can't really give him ship for missing a game. Yeah,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: you know, look at what he's with his career. Look
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: how he literally brought Cleveland up from nothing.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: He brought Cleveland for nothing. And then also, like Michael Jordan,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: you everybody watched the documentary The Last Dance, and he
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: would you know, have a couple of beers before a game,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: eat a pizza, and.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: That's around of golf.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll play around the golf and before playing around
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: a golf the day, imagine playing around a golf in
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: general in my life. Yeah, that's a hard ass sport.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Play eighteen holes. I mean, I can't do it. I know,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: those a couple of guys in the back. I'm out there,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I play three holes and I sit in the cart
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: and run. I can't do this. A whistle pig and
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I just move on. But gotta gotta plug it a
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: little bit too. Idn't even talk about the Chevy Silverado,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the most durable vehicle, But with with Michael Dude, it
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: just seemed like as things have advanced more in science
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: and how the body works and all the things you
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: can do for your body, now it's I think in basketball,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: you play so many games for Lebron, especially at his
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: age too, to take a couple of games sit and
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: not play, I mean, I think that's that's the move. Now.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: You would argue that people paid good money, they work
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: super hard to come and see Lebron, come and see Kobe,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: come and see those dudes. Rest in peace, Kobe, but
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: come and see these guys. But at the same time, like,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: the whole goal when you play a sport is to
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: win whatever it is at the end, whether it's a
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: super Bowl, the NBA Finals, all that stuff, and so
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I think that's a smart move by him to be
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: able to do that.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you see that thing with Eric Church going
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: to the UNC game?
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, dude, Oh my god, what do you think about that?
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: He just did in the squad?
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: He did? He did, But at the same time, was
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: it not for the boys move A huge er Church
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: fan too. He refunded the tickets though.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Of everyone that went, now, they were complaining about flights
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: and hotels and stuff like that, which I get. But
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: it's also one of it's his dream, you know, to
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: go see a UNC duke Final four.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no is what's his name's last game too, right,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: coach k Yeah, But uh.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm I'm kind of I don't know.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to take a side,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: but I lean towards Eric Church just because, like it
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: might be part of your dream to go see Eric
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Church in concert, but it's literally his childhood dream to
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: go watch you and.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: See duke playing the Final four.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so like where does where do you draw the
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: line of like whose fault is it?
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean just to play Devil's advocate. You
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: if you make a commitment to go do something and
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: there's nothing restricting you other than a want, Like he
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: signed up for it. You signed up to be a
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL, So regardless of how you feel
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, you're gonna go out there and play. I
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: signed up to be a left people, you know if
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I would if I just dipped. We're about to play
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the Ravens one day and I'm like, hey, I love it,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: but this team's playing this team. I really want to
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: go see it. Hey, it's my brother's birthday. It actually
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't happen, you know what I'm saying. A big Michigan
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Ohio State game this weekend. Guys, I'm not gonna be
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: able to go. Third week in November, I just can't.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I can't play hopefully the bie weeks. Then it's like
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: this doesn't just doesn't work that way, you know. Yeah? Sure,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: But I mean Eric Church, especially in the country music world,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: he's a He's a legend like that. I love his music.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I think he has three or four albums that just
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: absolutely slay. But uh, I don't know if that's like
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: the I mean, I don't think it's the best move
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: to go and do that. Now he can do whatever
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: he wants with his life. He's still going to go
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: play that same venue probably a year later and sell
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: it out and it's gonna be just fine. He's just
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: gonna catch a little flak right now and move on. Yeah,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: it's tough, dude. Yeah, Erek Church, thing is wild.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think like the best way to
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: handle stuff like that is in terms of maybe not
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: the Will Smith, but like Eric Church and like other
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: things that come out about people like do you think
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: it's best to like post right away or do you
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: think it's you just kind of eat it and then
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: kind of let time.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: So if you if you're Eric Church, you like, well
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: what I say. If I was Eric Church, I would
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: get out in front of it like he did. And
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I think I'm a big get out in front of things. Guy.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I like to if I fuck up something, if I
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: do something wrong, I feel like I have to tell
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: everybody around me because there's a part of me that
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: has like this anxiety about if I know I did
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: something wrong and everybody else here knows it did something wrong,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: there's like this barrier that like they're thinking it and
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I know it, so like and we're not talking about it.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: For me, I'm like, I just got to talk about
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: it to make sure, like this is what I was thinking,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: this is what happened, and then that's that's just how
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I am. I think you can go a lot of
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: ways about it, but yeah, I I mean there's a
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff I see where I'm like, why wouldn't
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: someone just say it something like this right away, Like
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: if you know you're agents speaking for you in a
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: contract negotiation. I like when I was doing my contract
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: with John Robinson, I just went and spoke to him
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, you shouldn't go do that, you
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: shouldn't go do xcell. I'm like, yeah, I gotta get
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: up there and just see him face to face and
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: be like this is how I feel. Where what are
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: you thinking? And then it takes the business out of it,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: and now you're having a personal conversation. Yeah, I mean,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I I think so I'm still here, you know, so
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: things are going all right, but what would you do
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: would you let everybody else handle it? Yeah? You like
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: that too? Yeah, I think that's definitely the move. Dude.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Should we do that Tier talk now? Because I know
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: we have to do too. So we have two segments.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: There's a locker room talk and the tier talk, which
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: is kind of redundant.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Uh huh Okay, I've stadium's played in top five wide receivers,
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: he's ever played with?
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: God, that's tough. Well, I guess I'll give you that.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Which what do you want to do?
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Definitely need some top five qbs to ever play it,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: you'll do. I'll do that.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: We'll do that, Okay, so I could do. I mean
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the way the way Bust Want the Boys work is
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: we have tears so tier ones, the die hard cats
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: on our podcast, the ones that get tattoos. You guys
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: see the guy who got a tattoo on his stye,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: but he had to be with the with the horns
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: and everything. I love to if we can put up
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: his little name in that picture in this video.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Does this guy have a lot of tats?
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: It looked it was a bare leg. It looked like
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: a bare leg. Outstanding tattoo. I hit a great tattoo artists.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: It's different if you're like tatted up, you know what
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're done, you can kind of just do whatever.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever you want. Yeah, no one's going to see anything.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Right, So when so he would be qualified as a
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Tier one guy. Tier twos like you follow, you comment,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: you subscribe, you rate five stars, those types of things,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: and then Tier three of the people that kind of
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: sit in the background and then you see like a
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: friend or something, then like hey, I heard you're doing
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: pretty good. I had the podcast is doing all right?
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: That type of thing. That's a Tier three guy, got it?
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: So on these tier talk options, if you give me
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: your top five quarterbacks. So I guess we're doing five
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: tiers today, boys, in order in order of who you
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: want hit the hit the names. You can talk about
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: him if you want. You don't have to talk, you
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: can just hit us right away. But I need your
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: tier one, two, three, four, and five of these names
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: on the board.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Yep, can the audience see who's on the board.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: We'll put it up from that's fine. Yeah, loss is
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: a whiz back there.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah mm hmm.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: See a couple of names coming out right now. I'd
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: go Carson one, Carson one, Okay, yeah, Carson Palmer. Why
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, I think just I mean, he won a
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: heisman at SC, won a national championship, and for a
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: lot of people that don't know, he actually had a
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: great career, had some injuries that he's dealt with, and
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of handled it I think very perfect.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I could have thrown some people under the bus too
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: in terms of what happened in his career in terms
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: of some some different things with some certain teams. But
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I think he handled it like a pro and I
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: just respect him.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: A ton and he's a baller. Go Liner Yeah.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Line is just stunning man him. We said before
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: him and Reggie Bush, that little duo they had it.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: The sikest thing to grow up and watch them playful
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: about that name above, Matt Liner And what do you
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: think about that one? No, I don't recognize it.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: No, no, no either.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: So I know this is this is tough because I
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: know Mark and Matt Sanchez and Barkley.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I hope they're listening right here and we
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: can haven't.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, Mark's much more handsome than Matt. Yeah that's
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: debatable as well, you think, so it.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Just depends, you know, if you're into you know, you know, yeah,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: exactly the whole thing that Mark has going on.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Maddie.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Big NFT guy, Matt the.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Ft bitcoin guy. Shoot, uh, I'm gonna go Mark. I'm
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: gonna go Mark.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: How does Matt feel about that he follows the pod?
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: I know, I'm just gonna go Mark just because, I mean,
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: i mean, Matt did some great things that s see.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: But you know, I think he would have won a
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Natty with that team that wasn't allowed to win a
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Natty is the sanctions shout up, Carol.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Mark won the Rose Bowl and stuff. So
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Mark had a great career too. So Mark and then Matt,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: and then I'd go, Rodney Pete, you're not gonna put
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: yourself in.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: That list myself, yourself, yourself, And I said myself, but yourself,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: sorry yourself?
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: No you Uh no, I mean I'm not gonna do that.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I don't even know who Rodney Pete is.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Rodney Pete. Look at his highlights?
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: When do you play.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Sick Layer?
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: I don't even know, but uh, I've seen some of
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: his highlights just being around sc You're just.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Being too humble on this podcast right now. No, dude,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: we put in the eighties. Yeah, get the fuck out
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: of here, dude, pull a different game. Leather helmets and
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: ship back then or whatever it is.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: He had a solid NFL career too.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: It's tough, dude, because you didn't grow up with it
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: and you don't know.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: And doing these tiers too, are difficult because you've got
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: to take away the NFL part because you just gotta
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: talk about college. Because Mark Sanchez, you have the butt fumble, right,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: you can probably put the thing. I don't know, that's
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: all I remember. That's all I know. Yeah, that thing
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: lived in the not top ten forever, right, yeah, months years.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I think it was retired. Look did you can't even
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: see the film on this thing? It's so grainy? This
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: is like NFL Blitz two thousd.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: That's Rodney Pete quarterback, right, Yeah, okay, I thought so
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: looks like him.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: There's a dime. I mean you should have threw him
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: in stride, am I right? I mean it was a dime, dude,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: So you put you put Rodney some did they play
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: in the eighties? No offense to Rodney. I'm sure I'm
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: positive he doesn't watch this podcast. It doesn't matter what
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I say, but you you never know, you never know exactly,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: but you're gonna put him over you. You're the third
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: overall pick in twenty eighteen, Rodney Pizza Baller.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Look at him.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: We're also watching NFL highlights. If you go back to
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: SC highlights, the way we're judging, I guess the tier.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I want to go to USC so bad.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: They were telling me before you got here.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, USC, Texas or any SEC school besides Vanderbilt
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: or Kentucky.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Does Michigan feel about that when you say stuff.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Like that, Well, I well, I say, when I was
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: in high school and then I had like an up
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: and down deal with Michigan towards the end of my
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: career there.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: In terms of one of the boosters, No, I never
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: got paid.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Never got paid. I'm sure you did a Hollywood stuf.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: There's so much. You never got money. You never got
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: a free meal, you never went out to eat. And
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: they're like, hey, go ahead, you're lying like a rug dude.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: It's okay, we're out. You can't get in trouble anymore.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Actually, never got paid.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Do you know guys in your team that didn't? For sure,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: We'll go ahead. What you got oh I got use
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: name social Security numbers. Let me hear the whole thing.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, social security numbers. I won't name any names, but
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: I'll give social Security numbers.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, that's uh. I mean there's lots
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: of dudes that people get paid all the time. I
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: mean sec you know what I'm talking about over their tea? Yeah, hey,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: it means more allegedly. Do you think Tennessee's paying dudes
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: out there? Yeah? You know what I mean, dude, Yeah,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: that's right. The nil thing. We'll do locker room talking
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit, because I said, they want us to
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: do this is all get cuts up too, So sound
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: way better. We'll do locker room talking a second. So
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: you get you get drafted to the Jets. What is
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: that fan base like before you got traded.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Before I got so so when I got drafted?
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah when he got drafted a couple of years there. Yeah, great,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: they're they're their love like that. I mean, they'll let
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: you know when you fuck up, there's no question. But
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: they they seem like they're like on par with the Eagles.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: No, it's it's a very I mean they're devotional fans
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: man like they're there would be. There would be games where,
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: you know, where season's not going great, and they would
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: The stadium was I mean pretty pretty solid. It was
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: fun to play in loud dude. It was a great
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: fan base, loyal.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Loved them.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, thinks things don't go well and
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: they'll let you know about it.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: I respect honestly. Yeah, your face though, you're playing a.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Little vanilla on me right now, and I know there's
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: a little something behind that. They probably passed you off,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: those Jets fans.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you know, there's there's a lot that
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: you know, people would say stuff, and you know, but again,
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: like I said, like when you when you're in the
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: social media world and people are talking so much shit online,
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: you respect it so much more when people say it
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: to your face.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I uh, There's only been a handful of time
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: someone says, um too my face, right, But Jets fans
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: really do it like that all the time. Yeah, tough.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: You're going to it. You're going to a little deli
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: out there grabbing a sandwich.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: There was a place so I love so I love
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: this place in New Jersey. I'm not going to say
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: the name.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, you have no free shoutouts.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: I love that, yeah, and I don't live there anymore,
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: so but uh no, great people, but there would be
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: people that would All the people that go there are
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Jets fans, like they have like the old school like
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: eighties letterman jacket, like you know, I'm like did you
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: play for the Jets or like nah, I'm just a
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: big fan. And uh so they're extra hard hats, like
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: they're all the Fireman ad guys. So no, but like
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: great fans, but they they would definitely be like, hey,
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: what the fuck are we doing? Like can we can
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: we get the ball to a Can we put Damarius
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Thomas out there more often? Like when he catches the ball,
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: he does something with it every time, and it's like, hey,
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: you're not wrong, like I hear you. He's he's dealing
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: with some some hamstring issues right right, But they don't
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: care about that all about you know what I mean. Uh,
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: And so it's just stuff like that. But honestly, it
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: was It's fun to have those conversations, you know what
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, because they're like critiquing, like what we should
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: do and strategy and stuff like that. The part that
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: pisses me off is when people judge like my game,
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: like how I'm playing. Then I'm like, hey, Bud, like
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: go strap it up, like yeah, you know what I mean.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Like I was like, you're a fan, and I respect
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: you being a fan, and you can talk all the
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: shit you want and I'm not going to do anything
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: about it at the end.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Of the day.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: But like take it easy, Like like what if I
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: was like, hey, like the house you just worked on,
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: piece of shit, Like you're you're so bad at tiling,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Like really, go get another job, really think about your profession. Yeah,
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: you know, it's like sometimes you just want to say
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, but you can't.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Well why not?
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah I could, Yeah you're going.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: To No, I'm with you. I wouldn't say that either.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It always sounds so good to think about because
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: you're on that on that Twitter, you see somebody say something.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, like even now I feel like a coward,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, damn, Like now.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: I feel like a coward like that guy, that guy
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: that's sitting here listening to that podcast like that the
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Jets fans, Like, now I actually know what he wanted
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: to say to me, but he didn't.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's an actual Tyler out there.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know, I don't know. It probably was
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Carpenter and like, yeah.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that is a fucking tough deal when people
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: talk shit like that because you think they think they
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: can do it. You go out to a bar and
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: people say something to you and they're like, hey, what whatever,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: you guys do this? Instead it's like, well, why aren't
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: you the coach? Why are you doing this whole thing?
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Because they can't love the fans. I don't want to
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: feel like I'm being harder than he is. You're being
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: You're being so nice. I feel like I'm being a
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: little too much of an asshole right now.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like when we were talking about Max earlier. Yeah, yeah,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: I feel bad about that to ioham a written apology,
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: just kind of shipping on him right away.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: He's a great guy. I'm like, yeah, but he is
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: just playing both sides of the fence on you. So
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: when when the when you started hearing trade rumors about everything,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: how did that process go for you? Like, did like
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: did they tell you, hey, we're thinking about trading you.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Did you hear it from the media first? What was
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: that whole process?
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Like there they were, they were just like, hey, we
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: got to figure some stuff out when I was leaving.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: This is exit interview, like raving season. So they don't
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: know anything.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: They might know what they want to do, but they
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: don't know exactly how they're going to do it. So
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: they just tell me, hey, we're gonna we're gonna look
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: at you know, people in the draft and uh free
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: agents and like, you know, we'll be in touch. And
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: so right right when they said that, I was like, okay,
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: like it's it's a wrap.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: So how did that make you feel when you heard
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: all that? I was just like, you know, I think
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: you guys are making a mistake.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Obviously told him that, Yeah, for sure, nice work, but
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: like you know, at the end of the day, it's
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: it's not you know, that's not my call. So if
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: you know they don't think I'm the guy for them,
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: then you know it is what it is. But so
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: I just kind of reached out to my agent. I
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: was just like, hey, like I'm not going to pay attention.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna like not pay attention to social media
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: at all, just like let me know if what happens.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Like I was like, if you want to, like tell
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: me rumors like, I'm fine with that, like rumors that are.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Real, not just like yeah bullshit.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so I was just like, let me know
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: if anything changes, and then got a call. I don't
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: even know when, but I think it was a little
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: bit before the draft and they're like, yeah, we're gonna
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: all right. It was from my agent first of all.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Literally it was it was crazy. So my agent calls me.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: He was like, hey, like, the Panthers are trading for you.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: It's gonna come out here in a second. And like,
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: right as he's saying that, my phone rings had a
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: call from Joe Douglas, the GM with the Jets. I
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: was like, hey, like the GMS call me. I got
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: to pick this up real quick. And so Joe called
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: me and very respect just pull me straight up what
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: the deal was. And uh I was like all right,
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: you know, sounds good.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: No, no, thank you nothing, you'res like all right, see ya.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: No.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: He was like, hey, we appreciate everything you've done for
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: the organization ever since you've gotten here, but we're gonna,
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: you know, move in a different direction.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh yeah, so was it when we were
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: talking about how like we like to get in front
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: of things like when somebody knows something you don't, or
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: you know that somebody knows something. When you're going through
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: that process when you talk to the team and they say, hey,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: we'll let you know how everything goes. And then between
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: that and before the draft you get traded, how you like,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: how are you processing those emotions of like wondering because
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: you know you're not looking at social media, but at
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: the same time, you know there's stuff out there saying X,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Y and Z, because I mean it's a huge media
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: market with the Jets. People talk about them all the time.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's tough, dude, because like, you
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: what are we doing.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: I know, I'm getting fucking clown horn going off. I'm
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: a very popular guy.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Uh. I was joking by the way, I know you were,
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: or Taylor's like, I'm gonna kill this guy.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Guys, I fucked this dude, Man, get him out of here.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: No, but uh, it was it was weird because, like,
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: you know, I have that conversation the exit interview, and
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: then I just go about, you know, my business as usual,
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, because we the uh they hired Robert Sala,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: the new coach of the Jets, and uh, I'm talking
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: to the OC like Michael Floor and Matt's.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Brother and then uh, great, nap, you know, rest his soul.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: But I mean we were in conversation for you know,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: up until I got traded, basically about the offense, what
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: we're gonna do.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: And so when you're.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so when they're calling, you're talking about what they're
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: gonna do. Were you like, oh, I'm safe.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: No, I mean because I knew, you know, like I
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: said in the exit interview, I was like, Okay, I
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: feel like these guys are leaning, you know, in a
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: different direction.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: So I always knew that deep down.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: But you know, like anything I do, I was just like,
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna you know, put everything I got and
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: to learn this new offense and if it works out,
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: it doesn't, you know, if it works out, it does,
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: it doesn't, it doesn't. Yeah, And uh that was just
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: kind of my mindset going into it. I was like,
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: I might as well, like keep myself busy, learn the offense,
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: and work out and do all the normal things that
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: I do. And you know, because the worst thing is
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: like sitting on something, you know, just just sitting you know,
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: waiting to see what happens. It's like, just keep yourself busy.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: That's that's how I kind of deal with stuff like that. Honestly.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a plow through right in the middle guy.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: I gotta worry about and figure it out. I gotta
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: I gotta know what the hell is going on in
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: my life. But I respect that though. I respect what
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: you're talking about. Look at us back on the same page,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: insulting my phone and me, and now look at us,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: we're back to being best friends again.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Just so popular.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: I love it so popular. I have three text messages.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I think they're all for my wife. So you get
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: trade to the Panthers, the GM calls you and he says, hey,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: appreciate everything you've done. Blah blah blah. What's the next part.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: What is it like when you're getting traded? Like, what
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: is that? Has that work? Do you go immediately to
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Carolina ye to figure it all out?
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Yep?
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: So obviously talked to the GM, talked to Coach Rule,
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: went to Carolina, met everyone met. There are probably like
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: four or five players that were actually their training So
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: met some of the guys, talked some of the guys
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: on social media through text, had a dinner with some
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: of the guys as well, with like GM owner, head coach,
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: a few other players that were there that were in
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: town during the off season. And I was just there
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: for a couple of days, you know, did the whole
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: media thing, you know, sitting in front of the locker,
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: putting the jersey on. And yeah, and I flew back
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: home and started learning the offense.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Nice. And so you live in California in the off season.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: It's a beautiful time, greattful time being there.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Great boyt a place four years ago, redid it through
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: my first season while I was in New York and
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: then came back and been loving it for the last
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: three years.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. So this year you start off, you start
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: three and oh, things are going great. You get injured
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: week nine. Correct, Yeah, that's what it said. Remember that's
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: what it said. Yeah, we do have notes up here.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: Cam Newton comes in and takes a spot or whatever,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Like what was that process like with Cam coming back
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: and he scores a touchdown on I'm back doing all
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: that shit is obnoxious as.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: He seems Cam is the best.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: I take it back. I think he's as awesome as
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: he seems best.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Dude, No, honestly, I'm being dead.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: It's so hard on us back in the day, dude,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: when he was at the when he was originally with
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: the Panthers. God, I think they won the Super Bowl
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: or I went to the Super Bowl that year. That
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: was the year I was on Wesley Woodard and Avery Williams.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: He was doing the dance and then Avery came up
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: and got in his face and he did it to
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: him again. God, Avery's a great dude. But ever since then,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: I was like, man, fuck that dude. Cam Man just
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: flexing on everybody. Guys got charisma like no one's personality
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: like you've never seen in your life. So when you
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: get injured and they bring cam and what your what's
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: your thought?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: You know, I was just like, okay, like see what
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: the deal is like, this is like middle of the season.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get healthy, honestly, honestly, and I
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: was just like all right, like you know, and yeah,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: he was a great dude, great guy to have in
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: the QB room, great guy to just have a round
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: in general because his.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Energy is unmatched.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: And then yeah, and then I come back and play
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: and he's a great guy, like I said, just a
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: great guy to have a practice, great gout to have
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: in your team.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: I literally have nothing bad to say about Cam.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Is he like is he the way he seems on
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: media always? No, he's not always that high up, high energy.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: No. I mean there's you know, just like anyone else.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: He's like he's just gonna be quiet and like do
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: his work and sit in the QB room watch tape,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: take notes. He's gonna like be in the training room
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: with his headphones on and the hot tub headphones on,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: like just chilling with a tower round, isn't it.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: You know, It's like he's a normal dude.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: But you know when he gets out to practice, when
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: he getting ready for games, and there's times, you know,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: in the locker room and stuff where he gets he
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: gets very charismatic and very high energy.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: And it's awesome. But yeah, he's just he's just a
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: natural born leader.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just he got he has that energy and
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: uh yeah, all I mean just the things that I've
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: learned from him in terms of.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Because he's dealt with a ton.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: Of stuff, a lot of a lot of stuff, a
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: lot of ups and downs in his career and the
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: way that he's handled it and the way that he
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: talks about how he's handled it. Uh, just so much respect,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: and yeah, it's a great dude.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: He was MVP one year and then a couple of
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: years later it's like it's not going the way he
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: wants it to. And he had trouble finding a job
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: for a little bit, so to go through that kind
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: of adversity, and and he just seems like every time
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: he gets on a team or does something, he's the
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: same dude over You got to respect that, Oh yeah,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: gotta respect that. So this year, I know you don't
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: you don't read a lot of stuff, but there's a
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: lot of people are talking about whether the Panther's draft
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: of guy, whether they were in the Deshaun Watson talk
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: for a little bit of trading for the quarterback. Like
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: what is you Obviously like you say you don't look
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: at the social media stuff, which I'm not sure one
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: hundred percent believe yet.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: But I see some stuff. Yeah, then, but I really
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: try not to pay attention to it. Yeah, I don't
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: even know if.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: I try not to. It's just that I don't.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because it was so it was you know,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: New York was on another level, So it was like,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: you know, I kind of figured out how to handle
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: it there, and it was like kind of going back
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: and forth, you know, between my rookie my first year
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: and my third year. It was like I figured out
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: how to best handle it for myself. Yeah, it was
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: just not really paying attention to it. So that's why
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: I've handled it. And I've kind of done the same
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: thing this offseason, where like I'm just trying to learn
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: coach mcadew's soon and that's where I'm at, you know
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: what I mean.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So, do you get nervous when the draft's coming
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: up or anything like that with possibilities of them drafting
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: a quarterback at six.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Or it's just it's it's literally like there's a.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Lot harder questions than I usually ask on this thing.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: I apologize this is good because no one, to be honest,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: no one ever asked me these questions because they're you know,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: whether they're afraid or they don't they don't want to
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: bring it up, you know, just in normal everyday conversation. Yeah,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: so no, this is truly like the first time I've
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: ever answered questions like this. But dude, it's like, honestly,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: whatever happens, I'm prepared for it, and you know, at
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, someone's got to answer for it.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: Whether it's you know, whoever it is, so the GM coach, whatever.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: If something happens like that, then it's like, all right,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: I'm going to see what they have to say and
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: that's about it.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I hear what you're saying, but
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: it's for me, it'd be like a tough that'd be
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: a tough thing to kind of to feel and knowing
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: when you're when you're quarterback, because you know, like, well.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: It's the Baker thing.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's the Baker thing, and it's it's understanding
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: you're like trying to understand your thought process of like
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: how you're not looking at you're not paying attention that
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: you're just focused on what you're trying to do, which
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: is be a great quarterback. The only issue is like
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: if they so that they do draft a guy at six,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: you got you know how the you know how the
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: politics of the NFL work. You know that guy from Liberty,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: whatever his name is, if they, let's say they draft him,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: you got to sit there and know that if you
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: guys play well in camp, you might start the beginning,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: but at some point in time the owner the GM
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: is gonna start telling the hew coach, we got to
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: get our first round pick to play, you know. And
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: so that's gotta that's got to ruffle some feathers on
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: the inside a little bit. It's got to be tough
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: to think that, Like, I'll give you, I'll give you
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: an example.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: So well, shot to the ego.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a shot to the ego. In twenty sixteen,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: we had the number one overall pick and John Robinson
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: was the new GM and everybody that, all the analysts,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: the experts saying that we need to draft a guy
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: number one overall off it's a tackle and move me
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: to right tackle. And so at that point, well, I
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: won't play right tackle. It's nothing against right tackles. It's
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: just I'm a left tackle and that's what I'm gonna play.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: And if they say have to play right tackle, I'm
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: out of here.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: That's just how I work. And so I meet with
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: John a couple of weeks. It's like the middle of
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: April or something like that. He's asked me, like how
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: I feel about all this whole thing, and I kind
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: of just tell him. I was like, you know, the
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: first overall picks a lot of money to pay for
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: a right tackle because I'm a left tackle. We go
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: through a couple of weeks of OTAs and they end
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: up trading the pickaway, you know what I'm saying. So
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: like that for me, that's like when I had, like
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: I've said, anything that comes to me, I want to
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: barrel through it. So people know how I fear. I
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: don't leave anything up to I wonder what he was
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: thinking that you know exactly how I'm feeling and stuff
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: like that. So just when the draft is coming, it's
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: got to be a hard feeling or wondering what is
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: the possibility. It's nothing you can't control, truly, but the
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: thought of it coming coming up, it's got to be
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: a difficult thing at times for sure.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it truly is.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: And this is this is kind of where you're not
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: gonna believe what I say, but just bear with me.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Are you ready?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: It truly is, like whatever happens happens, because that's at
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, like it's out of my control. Yeah,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: And I know that, And so I have enough security
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: in myself to where I can be like, I know,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: I'm a good quarterback.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: No, I can be a good quarterback in this league.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: I've proved it, and I know there's a team if
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: you know, something happens that would want me.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So well, I feel like the emotional maturity to
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: handle like that is impressive. Like I think I go
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: about I'm not saying the way I do things is
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: a mature way, because I don't. I think it's like
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: it can be a little reckless sometimes and for you
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: to have the head on your shoulders you do as
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: a quarterback that you would want.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it's it's all about who
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: you surround yourself with too. That's how I've always thought,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: Like my parents, my family, my friends that I have
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: back home, Like all my high school buddies are all
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: my best friends. So you know, obviously there's guys in
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: college that I you know, I'm boys with doo, but.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Like I'm best friend.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: I have like six or seven best friends in high
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: school that were kind of with me before all this
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: shit started happening. So I just kind of roll with them,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: and you know, if I start getting a big head
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: and they let me know about it, that's impressive.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, that's pretty much it having boys
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: like that around you is really special to have. Yeah,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: definitely people that I'll keep in your place for sure.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: The locker room talk segment is the last thing I promise. Okay,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: So the whole point of the locker room segment, it's
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: a new thing. We started last week. We started with
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Fred Taylor, and it's basically like something like, you're sitting
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: with the boys in the locker room a story you
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: whether it's off the field, on the field that you
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: don't usually talk about with the mainstream media. We're definitely
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: not the mainstream media. But with with media types in there,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: we're not trying to be mainstream. We're definitely not trying
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: to be mainstream. Buttoned up is not our forte. Yeah,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: but as far as locker room talk.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: No one's gonna listen to this.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: No, we have millions of viewers, millions or its not
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: on main stream, you know what I'm saying. We're not
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: the ESPN's Okay.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, I don't know if I can even.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Have a weird way to segue like a segment too,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: like just to ask, hey, tell us a cool story, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of tough.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's kind of funny is ESPN even I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: like is TV mainstream media now?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Like is that? I mean? But yeah, like podcasts and
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  Speaker 2: YouTube are starting to become a little more.
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  Speaker 1: It's definitely transitioning quite a bit.
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  Speaker 3: Because I know, like I'll sit on YouTube for hours,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and not watch a look at TV.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe I'm just different.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, ESPN they let off like a hundred laid off
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  Speaker 1: like one hundred people a couple of years ago, and
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  Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's tough. Shout out all the grinders
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  Speaker 1: out there in the mainstream media, though, dude, shout to
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: shout out you guys. But the podcast, like you see
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  Speaker 1: Pat McAfee's doing. I think he's the most watched dude
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: of all the places, right, guys making I would say
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: close to undred million dollars to hear right now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Rogan's out there too, but he's not I mean, he's
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: not sports. But yeah, he crushed the CNN and NBC.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: We had a Brandon shab on here and they were saying,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: like all those mainstream news media's takes like a week
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: two weeks to just gain one of his episodes, and
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: he's putting out three of those a week. Thirteen million views.
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  Speaker 1: Hawking just talking. He's dude. He's incredible at having conversations
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  Speaker 1: with people too. Yeah, incredible. Did you have a four
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: hour conversation? Yeah? I think I could could. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's usually the conversation usually goes off of who
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: you're talking to, right, Like, if, for sure, if Joe's
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: on here, he's a he's an excellent speaker. Yeah, things
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: lowing and he loves talking, so I don't think that'd
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  Speaker 1: be an issue at all for sure to be on
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  Speaker 1: with him. But locker room segment, sorry, locker room talk.
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  Speaker 1: What kind of story do you got for us that's
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: going to bless the bus?
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  Speaker 2: I mean besides all the dudes running around naked in
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: the locker room.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we can talk about it if you peek at
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: meat too in a second. Okay, big part of our thing.
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  Speaker 2: Two riffs riffs only.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm a locker guys with the kind of Yeah,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: I think I've just moved on to not caring anymore.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: Hey, you gotta you got kids, right?
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got kids. Okay, I don't know what that
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: has to do with anything. Oh, yes, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, it's like it's the best cover up
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: I've ever had in my entire life.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: It's outstanding. Yeah, oh man, Uh locker room story.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's not like a locker room story,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: but it's happened.
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  Speaker 2: Uh after the Rose Bowl game.
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  Speaker 3: We were in the Rose Bowl and school's on winter
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  Speaker 3: break and so so no one's at school, and so
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: we're like, what do we do? Like literally, I'm like,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: didn't have a planned out, like nothing, just won the
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: Rose Bull. Don't know what the Rose Bull? Like, what
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: do we do? You know, Uh, can't go out? You know,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: got my d's taken away? If that's not allowed to
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: be on this we can take that out, I'm sure.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: But yeah we won't. But all right, I'm just kidding.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: Got my got my d's taken away? Uh.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: And so I was like nineteen, I think at the time,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: and so I literally was like, what do we do?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: So we go back an hour south down to my
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: hometown and I literally all those guys I mentioned, Uh,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: we just had a time. We had a time at
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: uh at my buddy's house, who had a bunch of
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: people over. He had a sick backyard, jacuzie all that stuff.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: So all this stuff you enjoy when you're nineteen years old.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: So we had a few drinks and I ended up
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: we ended up thinking it was a good idea to
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: DM Snoop Dogg okay because he wasn't you know, he
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: wasn't involved with USC anymore. And I was like, dude,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: he'd for sure respond. All my buddies were like hyping
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: me up, like, dude, you just want the rose bull,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: like you should be able to talk to him. And uh,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: to this day, like seven years however long it is
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: years later, no response.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: Snoop said a word. Nothing, He's that is a cut
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  Speaker 1: to the core. I really thought that was going to
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: go to like he and he hit us up, went
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: to his house.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: We went to his house.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah nah yeah. Did he read it?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: So sorry for everyone listening because that was, you know,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: tough story, but the story with stup Dog is good.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: Did anything of Snoop? Yeah, but uh nothing, dude.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: Not didn't read it or anything.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: He was probably like, who are these fucking kids like
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: just recording videos like send them whatever.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just like dumb stuff, but uh, dumb ass crackers.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's probably what he said.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: Uh, but yeah, it was just like send him a
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: video and he just never responded, and I was pretty devastated.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's got to be tough when you put yourself
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: out there, especially when you tell the boys, yeah he
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: probably responded, and they're like, oh, you for sure would.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: It wasn't even my idea. It was like one of
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: my boys idea, Yeah, and I.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Was just like a couple hours go by and it's like, oh,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: it's not looking good for saying yeah right.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: That was that was kind of like where where it
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: came from was like we wanted something to go do. Uh,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: you know, an uber up to l A probably wouldn't
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: be super cheap, but we're gonna do it. If you
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: like was like yeah, like come out with the boys,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: you know it'd be a good time and just never respond.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: Parting with Snoop Dog would be all the time. You
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: would be so high, Yeah, regardless of whether you wanted
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: to or not. Right, Yeah, second hand, just second hand,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: just a stone out of your mind. You think it'd
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: be harder to smoke with Snoop Dog or Willie Nelson?
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Willie Nelson, you think it'd be harder? Well, elaborate, why.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Do you think I think there was a story that
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: came out of Willian Nelson's smoking. Uh.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: It was like Snoop and Whizz kal Walifa under the bus,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: no ship, yeah, under the bus.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: I think Toby Keith wrote a song about He'll never smoke.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: We with Willie Nelson again. Yeah, he was like that.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know that's what I heard. I think I
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: heard that.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: Maybe it was maybe it was flipped, but I'm pretty
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: sure it was Willie Nelson.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: And those two Wiz Khalifa and Snoop Dogg. They are like,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: that's those thing guys, that's the weird guys. Yeah, those
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: are the weird guys.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: And Seth Rogan. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. Seth Rogan does
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: get after it, doesn't you. Listen, dude, I had an
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: outstanding time.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: I think you. I hope you had a great time.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: We love having you on the bus. Thank you for
• 1:14:58
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