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RumpleTaleSpin | Rumpelstiltskin Fairy Tale | Stories for Kids · Dorktales Storytime | Stories for Kids Who Love Big Adventures

• 0:01
  SPEAKER_02: Hello, Dork Squad.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_02: I'm Jonathan Cormer, and you're listening to Dork Tales Storytime, the podcast for kids and their pop culture loving grown-ups.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_04: It's a beautiful day for a story, adventure, and glory, new friends and old ones, too.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_04: It's an excellent day to get swept away in a tale, so let us regale you Hello there.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_02: Salutations Yes, Reg and I are back with you to share another of our favorite stories.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, we've returned to tell another tumultuous and turbulent tale.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_02: Now, Reg, you're not going to poke holes in everything I say again, are you?
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_02: Why, Jonathan, I cannot promise that.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_02: You see, I am a hedgehog.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_02: Poking holes is what I do.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, but it's in my nature.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_02: I can feel it in my quills.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_02: It is my modus operandi.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_02: I must always Reg Can I continue with the story?
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_02: Of course.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_02: This is the story of Rumpel Stilskin.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_02: Excuse me.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_02: What is the fellow's name?
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_02: Rumpel Stiltskin.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_02: That's preposterous.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_02: That's his name.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_02: What kind of ludicrous name is Rump?
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_02: Well Stilskin.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_02: You you do know what rump means, don't you?
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_02: Reg.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_02: Rump means buttocks.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_02: Are you finished?
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_02: Wait, wait, wait, one moment.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'm finished.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_02: Great.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_02: Let's just get on with the story, shall we?
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_02: We shall.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_02: There once was a miller who liked to tell tall tales.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_02: Just one second.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_02: What's a miller?
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a miller.
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  SPEAKER_02: I grind grain in my mill to make flour.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's what you do for a living, but this story actually involves your beautiful daughter.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, she is beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_02: But she's also smart and creative and very funny.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_02: You're right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Not sure why the original story never mentioned those important qualities.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh continuing.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: One day, the miller was out and about about what?
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_02: I was out and I milled about.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_02: Heh heh.
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  SPEAKER_02: And who did you see?
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I came across the king and I told him a tale.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_02: A tall tale.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_02: The miller sugarcoated the truth and baked up some malarkey.
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  SPEAKER_02: He told the king that his daughter could spin straw into gold.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_02: So of course the king was impressed.
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  SPEAKER_01: Spinning straw into gold?
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  SPEAKER_01: Ho ho ho! Now that's delightful.
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  SPEAKER_01: Bring her to my palace tomorrow.
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  SPEAKER_01: I must put her to the test.
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  SPEAKER_02: So the next day, the miller and his daughter headed to the palace, and the daughter she has a name.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, that would make sense.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_02: But you don't even have a name.
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  SPEAKER_02: I do.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_02: The Miller.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm called Humbert.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_02: Would you like me to call you uh Humbert from now on?
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  SPEAKER_02: Nah, Miller's fine.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_02: But my daughter's name was Daphne.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
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  SPEAKER_02: My apologies to Daphne.
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  SPEAKER_02: So Daphne and the Miller were at the castle, and a guard led Daphne into a huge round room.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was floor to ceiling filled with bales of hay, and in the middle of the room was a spinning wheel, and the king said, Get to work, Daphne!
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  SPEAKER_01: And if by tomorrow you haven't spun this straw into gold, the punishment will be death.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_02: Excuse me, just a moment.
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  SPEAKER_02: What is it now, Reg?
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  SPEAKER_02: Don't you think that's a little extreme?
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yes, but kings didn't have much to worry about back then.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_02: They could throw fits over the slightest disturbance.
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  SPEAKER_02: A tapestry askew, a pastry too jammy, lying about turning straw into gold, whatever it was, it was off with their heads.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_02: So, needless to say, once he shut and locked the doors to the room, and Daphne could hear the king yelling about old pecans and his scone, she burst into tears.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh my goodness, how will I ever do this?
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  SPEAKER_02: Daphne had never spun straw into anything.
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  SPEAKER_02: She didn't know where to start.
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  SPEAKER_02: As she buried her head in her hands, Daphne heard a creak.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_02: As the large doors to the straw-filled room opened a crack.
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  SPEAKER_02: To her surprise, a small man in a pointy hat and pointy shoes with a long pointy beard came through.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_02: Ooh, a lawn gnome! No, not a lawn gnome.
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  SPEAKER_02: Though I have to admit he is described similarly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, the tiny man entered the room, took off his pointed hat, and headed toward Daphne.
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  SPEAKER_02: Good evening, Miller's daughter.
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  SPEAKER_02: Why are you crying so dear?
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  SPEAKER_02: You'll get the straw all wet.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I have to spin all the straw to gold by tomorrow.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't know how to do it, and the king will kill me if I don't.
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  SPEAKER_02: The little man took big steps around the room, looking the bales of hay up and down and stroking his beard.
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  SPEAKER_02: Give you?
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  SPEAKER_02: It must be something special to you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Why I guess I've got my necklace.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_02: My mother gave it to me.
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  SPEAKER_02: As soon as the words left her lips, the little man snatched her necklace.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was immediately out of sight.
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  SPEAKER_02: He shooed her from the spinning wheel, took her seat in front, and began to spin the straw.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the first reel was full.
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  SPEAKER_02: Daphne saw it herself.
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  SPEAKER_02: The man had spun a golden thread from pure straw.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_02: Hmm, I can't really put a hedgehog pawned why.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_02: But I've got to meet this man.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so Daphne was delighted.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_02: Oh I'm so delighted.
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  SPEAKER_02: She settled into a bale of straw in the corner and let the little man work.
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  SPEAKER_02: He spun the wheel, and each time the reel ended up full of pure gold thread.
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  SPEAKER_02: By the time Daphne awoke, the little man had vanished, and the reels were completely full of gold thread.
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  SPEAKER_02: The king was delighted.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_01: My stars! The lying miller was right.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, I'm no liar.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, Miller, it's what the king said.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_02: You weren't told Daphne's name, but somehow you know the king called the miller a liar.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_02: Well yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Absurd.
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  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, the king may have been delighted, but he was also hankering for some more gold.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_02: He took Daphne by the hand and led her to a new room down the hall.
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  SPEAKER_02: This room was twice the size of the first room, and was filled with twice the amount of straw.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now spin this room's straw into gold by tomorrow.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you truly care about your life, you'll do it again.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_02: But as soon as he stepped out and she could hear the click of the lock, Daphne burst into tears.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_02: Just my luck.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_02: The door to the room opened a crack, and there was the little man again.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hello, dearie What will you give me if I spin all this straw into gold for you?
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_02: Daphne thought for a moment.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um the ring on my finger?
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_02: So the little man took the ring from Daphne's finger and made it disappear into an unseen pocket in his vest.
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  SPEAKER_00: He began to work while Daphne closed her eyes.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_00: When she awoke, the room was filled with golden thread.
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  SPEAKER_02: She's sleeping through everything.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_02: But the king isn't.
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  SPEAKER_02: As you'd probably expect, he took one look at that room and was over the moon.
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  SPEAKER_01: Again, I'm delighted.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_02: Great Now may I go home?
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: No Nope No But you said if I a buppet butt I want more gold.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_01: You haven't spun enough.
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  SPEAKER_02: Follow me So Daphne followed the king out of the second room, down the hallway.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_02: Oh I can see where this is going.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh can you?
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_02: They walked down the passageway to a larger room, didn't they?
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_02: Oh they went to a larger room down the hallway.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_02: By George, I knew it! I'm telling the story now.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_02: Way to go, Reg Do you mean that?
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_02: Not really, because narrating is my job.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_02: Oh right oh.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_02: I'll stick with the hedgehog stuff.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_02: So the king led Daphne down the hall to the largest room she had seen in the palace thus far.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was filled floor to ceiling with straw again.
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  SPEAKER_02: My goodness, the king was greedy.
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  SPEAKER_02: But Reg, you just said you wanted a room full of gold-filled reels too.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's the smallest room, mind you.
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  SPEAKER_02: I am just a little hedgehog after all.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, fine, but now the king and Daphne were in the largest room full of straw.
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  SPEAKER_01: Daphne, here comes the final phase of your test.
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  SPEAKER_02: The final phase?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Tonight you will spin all this straw into gold, and when you're through, I will be the richest king in the land, and you will be my queen.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, Reg.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_02: The king told Daphne if she spun the straw into gold for the third time, she'd be his queen.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_02: Are you really surprised?
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_02: Reg?
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_02: Are you okay?
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying my best not to poke holes!
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, Reg, just do it.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_02: How are they getting married?
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_02: They don't even know each other, let alone love each other.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: They've spoken, what, three, maybe four times?
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_02: All about spinning straw into gold! This is preposterous.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_02: Well, don't you think Daphne would want to be queen?
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_02: And furthermore! Say what now?
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I can envision a mutually beneficial partnership between the two of them.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_02: Only if Daphne could spin the third room of straw into gold.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_02: But she didn't know how, exactly.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: So as soon as the king left, the lock turned in the door with a click, and his footsteps disappeared down the hall.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_02: She burst into tears?
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe you should tell the story now, Reg.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_02: Ugh.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_02: No, thank you very much.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_02: You are the narrator.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_02: So please go ahead and narrate.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_02: Daphne burst into tears.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh what shall I do?
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_02: Where is that little man when I need him?
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_02: Hoo me Oh, you're back.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_02: Can you help me once more?
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: What will you give me, dearie?
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I already gave you my necklace and my ring.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, but for this job I need my due payment.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_02: Well I don't have anything else.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_02: Ooh ooh ooh she could give a lock of her hair or her shoes.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_02: Did she have a hat?
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's got to be something of great value to you, dear When I'm queen, I'll have many things of value.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_02: But to you are those important?
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_02: Well not really.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_02: Hmm This is a lot of work.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I'll need something very important.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_02: Oh I've got it I will spin this room of straw for you so you can become queen.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_02: If you promise to me your firstborn child I know you want to say something, Reg.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_02: I can see your quills trembling.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_02: Just say it.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_02: So instead of money, in this story, we use trinkets, bubbles, and babies Yep, that's how the story goes.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_02: I guess I truly am unable to predict the plot of this tale.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_02: This tall tale.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, Daphne stared at the little man for a second longer than usual.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_02: Then she eyed her massive piles of straw.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_02: She needed the straw spun to gold, or else she'd be killed.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_02: Also, being queen was very appealing.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_02: Who knows what the future might bring, she thought.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: Daphne was too caught up in her haste.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_02: She leaned forward and whispered to the little man, Oh help me, little man, you're my only hope.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_02: And with a delighted squeal, the little man took his seat at the spinning wheel and began to spin.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: And when the morning came, the room was full of gold thread.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_02: When the king saw all of the gold, he was delighted.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_02: How'd you know, Reg?
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_02: Had a hunch.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: Well, he was delighted.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_02: Everything was as he desired, so he whisked Daphne away, and Daphne became queen.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, good times.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you're still here, Miller.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_02: Just no more lying aloud.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_02: On with the story.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_02: A year passed and Daphne, the queen, gave birth to a beautiful baby.
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  SPEAKER_02: She was so happy with her new life and as a new mother that the little man never even crossed her mind.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_02: But one day, just like before, he suddenly showed up.
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  SPEAKER_02: Daphne stood between the man and her baby's bassinet.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_02: No, you cannot have my child.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, but you promised.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_02: A deal's a deal, your Majesty.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_02: I'll give you anything.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_02: I now have riches beyond compare.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_02: Do you want furs?
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_02: Jewels?
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_02: Anything you want.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_02: Just don't take my baby.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_02: Hm if it's of great importance to you, it is valuable to me.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_02: Furs and jewels don't matter.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_02: I'm taking your child.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_02: Ah, but remember, Daphne was beautiful and funny, and also intelligent.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, Miller, she was very smart.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_02: She wiped her tears and tried a different angle with the little man.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um how about a bargain?
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_02: The little man never could turn down a deal.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: Hmm Fine.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: You have three days.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_02: If you can figure out my name before that time is up, you shall keep your child.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: Daphne thought all night about every name she knew, and when the little man showed up to the nursery the next evening, she tried those.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_02: Could it be Jeremy or Abraham?
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_02: Peter or Tyrone?
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_02: Not those Ooh, what fun.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: Try our names.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_02: You want me to change the story again?
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_02: Just try.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_02: So the Queen tried.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: Could it be Jonathan or Reginald?
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_02: Or Miller Oh come on.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_02: Who I dare say this is funny Nope none of these is my name And with that the little man left.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: Aww Queen Daphne had her people comb the streets of the village for all kinds of curious names.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_02: Could your name be banjo, short ribs, pamelo, or spare tire?
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, and certainly not.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_02: On the third day, Queen Daphne decided to take matters into her own hands.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_02: She walked all over town to find any clues to the little man's name.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_02: She was just about to give up when she noticed a small plume of smoke coming from the woods.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_02: When she approached, she saw the little man singing and dancing around a fire pit in front of a little cabin.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: Tonight, tonight my plans I make.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: Tomorrow, tomorrow the baby I take, the queen will never win the game, for Rumpelstiltskin is my name.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: Rumpel Stiltskin?
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_02: What an odd name.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_02: You said it.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_02: And that evening, when the little man came to Queen Daphne's nursery to collect her child, she tried guessing his name again.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_02: So you're sure your name isn't Mordor?
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: How about Maleficent?
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: Nope.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_02: Baby Yoda Wrong again, dearie Now give me your child He lunged for the baby's bassinet.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_02: Wait.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: Is it possible?
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_02: Your name is Rumpel Stiltskin?
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_02: The little man stopped mid-lunge.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_02: He turned beet red, began stamping his feet and screaming.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no! You tricked me! I just know you did! Rumpel Stiltskin was so upset he continued to shout and stamp his feet in protest.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: Oh look what you've done! I'm melting! I'm melting! Oh the world, what a world, I'm melting Just kidding.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: Toodles And with one big poof of smoke he was gone.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_02: I like that story.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_02: Of course you do.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_02: It was your story.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_02: Ah, it was more Daphne's And your lies.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_02: Excuse me.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: My tall tales Let's wrap this up, shall we?
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_02: And so Queen Daphne and her child lived happily ever after.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_02: Well, Reg, story's over.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_02: Got any more holes to poke?
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: Just one.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_02: Was his name really Rump?
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_02: Wolstilskin's hilarious.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_02: Well, nothing left to be said, but the end of the This has been a John in Character production.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: Today's story was written by Karen Simpson Gardner and performed by Jonathan Cormer.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_02: Sound recording and production by Jermaine Hamilton at Hamilton Studios.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_02: Reach out to us on Instagram or email us at dorktalestorytime at gmail.com.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_02: Find links in the show notes or go to dorktalesstorytime.com.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_02: Now, go be the hero of your own story, and we'll see you next once upon a time.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_03: So gather your squad for all to see the universe that we imagine centers and lessons learned.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_03: This is where the unexpected happens.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_05: Join our humble voices and hit the trails of a wonderful, wacky wild world of Dork Tails.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_05: Bloody da, bloody da, de da