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Chris Finlayson: Former National cabinet minister on Christopher Luxon's vote of confidence · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: So likes and survived the confidence vote yesterday. Caucus has
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  Speaker 1: answered clearly and decisively. It has backed my leadership and
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  Speaker 1: that matter is now closed and I won't be commenting
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  Speaker 1: further on it. To our Texter's point about Helen Clark,
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  Speaker 1: this is the first time that a sitting prime minister
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  Speaker 1: has called one on themselves. Chris fin Lason, former senior
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  Speaker 1: National Party minister, with us this morning. Good morning, good
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  Speaker 1: morning smart move from him.
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  Speaker 2: Oh look, a line's been drawn on it, whether it's
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  Speaker 2: smart or or not smart, and there are various commentators
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  Speaker 2: commenting on that. Time to move on, draw a line
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  Speaker 2: on it. Get it's the business of governing the country
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  Speaker 2: and preparing for a general election.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, does he need to what does he need to
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  Speaker 1: do to win it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I've said to a number of people. They need
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  Speaker 2: a good budget, they need to get the RMA reforms through,
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  Speaker 2: they need to get the Indian SDA signed up, they
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  Speaker 2: need to speak highly of one another, and they need
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  Speaker 2: campaign in a uniform and go for that party vote.
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  Speaker 1: There's lots of reform that's going on behind the seas
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  Speaker 1: and as you say, RIMA doesn't get a lot of attention.
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  Speaker 1: That kind of stuff But do they just need to
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  Speaker 1: paint themselves as a as a sound manager. Because we
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  Speaker 1: know what New Zealand first stands for, we kind of
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  Speaker 1: know what act is going for. Do they need to
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  Speaker 1: paint themselves as anything other than a middle manager of
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  Speaker 1: the three parties?
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  Speaker 2: They have to paint themselves as good economics stewards. They
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  Speaker 2: would need to say this has been an extraordinary period
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  Speaker 2: with a three party coalition. It hasn't been easy. We've
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  Speaker 2: provided stable government. We've got a whole lot of stuff done.
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  Speaker 2: It hasn't been easy. But give us your vote.
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  Speaker 1: You know the Stuart Smith thing, I mean very odd.
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  Speaker 1: Do you believe? Do you buy the statement they issued?
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  Speaker 2: I take it for what it's worth. I know Stewart
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  Speaker 2: is a good guy. Kaikoura is a great seat and
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  Speaker 2: he's been a good electoral MP. There's probably a bit
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  Speaker 2: more to it, but are not particularly interested. I really
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  Speaker 2: want to look forward.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think people hate the media so much that
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  Speaker 1: bagging the media is a good strategy. I mean it's
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  Speaker 1: worked for Winston for a long time, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Well. I don't think there's something The media are doing
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  Speaker 2: their job and if people pass on rumors to them
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  Speaker 2: They're not sort of judgers who weigh the evidence in
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  Speaker 2: a very careful way. Basically, they have to be bloodhounds
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  Speaker 2: and chase after the story. So bagging the media I
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  Speaker 2: think is pretty pointless.
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  Speaker 1: Chris fin Leason, former senior National Party minister, appreciate your analysis.
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