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- 0:00Even with some of these programs that they're coming out pur stuit levels where you
- 0:03know you pay for twenty five years as a percentage of your income and the
- 0:06laws for game and even if you do that, you're still paying for twenty
- 0:10five years. It's still in burden over your head for twenty five years,
- 0:13Like, is that something that you really wanted to do? You're going to
- 0:16be fifty five years before the staying's gone. You're listening to Carrie Letz's Financial
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- 0:48to watching the Financial Survival Network. I'm your host Carry Lutts. Well,
- 0:53hey, nowadays, with the uncertainty of the economy and the just volatility in
- 1:00the geopolitical situation, where do you put your money? Where is safe?
- 1:04How do you get a return or do you just give up the return for
- 1:08safety? Well, our next guest, Joseph Rank, is with us.
- 1:15Now did I get that right, Yeah, close, go get it.
- 1:19Joseph Raggy is with us. And now normally I get the pronunciation of guest
- 1:25name before I say it. I forgot to do it. I was so
- 1:27into what he was telling me. Look, if you're in a quandary,
- 1:30you don't know what to do, this is the person that you want to
- 1:36hear from. Eight. I love the name of his site because it reminds
- 1:40me of something else. It's called fit bucks f I t b eux dot
- 1:46com. Make sure you go there after the show sign up. He's got
- 1:49something for you there. And Hey, if you got a question for John
- 1:55or myself, shoot me an email k l at kerry LUTs dot com.
- 2:00So Joseph, I should say Joseph, not John, but Joseph. So
- 2:05Hey, we're in the midst of a financial hurricane tsunami. Here you where
- 2:09you putting your money? So for me personally, I mean I go into
- 2:15businesses, so I mean I evenfessed a lot of my own businesses and stuff.
- 2:20But for consumers, what I always tell them is, you know,
- 2:24manage your risk and read your return will be there. That was what I
- 2:29was always taught growing up, and too often times like traditional financial planners and
- 2:34stuff. It's like just invest, invest, invest, invest in the market,
- 2:36invest in this. And it's like, well, how does that be
- 2:39that always be buying right? Oh yeah, exactly right, just buy bye
- 2:44bye, but I buy. And it's like, well, how does that
- 2:46play with all the other risk in your in your overall profile? So what
- 2:50does it look like in terms of what are your your desk that you hold,
- 2:53what about your family status, what about your income stream? Is that
- 2:57stable? Like all these things play a role and where you should be putting
- 3:00your money, and so you know, if you are in like an end
- 3:07stable industry, what it's like, Well, then yeah, don't take take
- 3:09too much risk, you know, put the money in just cash or whatever
- 3:13it is right now, Like you can earn five or set if you have
- 3:16short term goals like buying a house or whatever it is, it's like,
- 3:20why you take a risk with that money? So to answer your question just
- 3:23depends on what the person's goals are. I mean right now, the stack
- 3:27market, it's it's one of those things where I could give you odd reasons
- 3:31why it's gonna go down. I could give you, you know, a
- 3:35couple of reasons why it's gonna go up, No one really knows, but
- 3:38it just look at your risk, like in terms of allocations, you got
- 3:40to just look at your overall risk to your entire financial profile and what are
- 3:45your other goals and then make your decision from there. Okay, so goals,
- 3:50you got to start with goals, right, Yeah, everything comes down
- 3:53to goals, but realistic goals, right, I mean right to how many
- 4:00of you out there, like, hey, I want to be a billionaire
- 4:02by the time I'm twenty one. That's not realistic, is no, not
- 4:08at all? And we discuss when we build out like financial plans for people,
- 4:13we discuss focusing on two primary things. So we talked about, like
- 4:17Allocacia, what some of the data that I've done is, I said,
- 4:20okay, well, how do you simply break down a financial plan? And
- 4:25we break it down to the three categories, like this is my income of
- 4:27my day to day money. That's caglory number one. Categlory number two is
- 4:30assets in debt, which is like what we call money for future self.
- 4:33And then Categulary three is risk management so like insurances and whatnot. And so
- 4:39we say, from a high level, really your only goal is to say,
- 4:43can I increase how much I'm putting too that second cagulory assets in debt.
- 4:46And every year, every time I get a pay increase, can I
- 4:48increase that amount? So that way you get away from lifestyle greep and what
- 4:53I've found in research and in data that that is way more impactful than like
- 4:58compounding interests for examp. So I'll give you one example, like if I
- 5:01invest one hundred dollars a year for forty years and make five percent of that
- 5:05money, it's gonna be at like three hundred grand by the time at forty
- 5:10years. But if I just increase that dollar amount by twenty five dollars a
- 5:13year, it's over one point two million. And so that's oftentimes when we'd
- 5:16say to people for your long term goals, just every time you get a
- 5:20pay increase, start increasing how much money you're doing that second, that second
- 5:24category, and then from there's the short term goal. So like if you
- 5:29have one goal of saying, hey, like I want to pay off my
- 5:32car, I want to pay off stud the goals I want to save for
- 5:35a down payment for a house, get your minimals, Like if you have
- 5:39a four one K, you know, get the match. That's free money,
- 5:42go get it. If you have a raw thyrol to make sure you
- 5:44put some money in that. Everything else, go to that short term goal
- 5:47and get that one done. Once you get that goal done, go to
- 5:50the next one. Get that done, and then the next one, the
- 5:53next one, the next one. If you just keep it simple and you
- 5:56do that stuff over time, you're going to have a couple million dollars by
- 5:59the time to get retiring. That's a good thing. Yeah, that quick
- 6:03get a rich quick thing is ways like starting business. It is learning investments.
- 6:08But those are full time jobs, wull time careers. So like if
- 6:11you want to dive into that, yeah you can do it. But for
- 6:14you know, the majority of the population, if we sit there and say,
- 6:16hey, this is something that concrete we can do, it's those goals
- 6:20and again the big level of high levels moving more money to that second cagalory
- 6:25and then focusing on one short term goal at the time. Yeah all right,
- 6:29so we like that put the concept of human capital and investing in yourself.
- 6:35Now, what I have found myself is every time I've ever invested in
- 6:39myself, I reaped huge dividends. But that's not something like the CFA can
- 6:46really quantify can you Oh, that is what we're trying to do. So
- 6:51what are the big things? So there's this theory and finance that when you
- 6:57look at sell one's future income at the risk of that income, that's when
- 7:00we talk about financial planning. It dictates that number dictates how much like life
- 7:04and surance you have, should you be buying that house or not? How
- 7:06should you have your investments allocated? And today, no one's ever been able
- 7:12to quantify that risk. And so some of the algorithms that I created as
- 7:17I say, look, I'm used to quantifying risk for investments, just stock
- 7:23market investments and everything else. Can I quantify this risk for people and their
- 7:28income streams? And so that's where we started clipping data on and it's like,
- 7:32okay, well, what happens if I want to go out and learn
- 7:36coding, what if I want to take at the science class, Like what
- 7:40if I want to go get my master's degree? What is the impact not
- 7:44only just on an income level, but on a reduced risk level. And
- 7:49so we have taken that and have quantified it, and that's how we actually
- 7:54you're ever building our AI is off that quantification of human capital analytics Yeah,
- 8:01that's mind field. In data. I spent eight hundred dollars on a course
- 8:07called the Podcasting from A to Z and I can't even begin to tell you
- 8:11the return over the past twelve years, but it's many, many times the
- 8:18eight hundred bucks. And I had a discount coupon it was originally a thousand,
- 8:22so thinking if it was a thousand, it's so many rewards. So
- 8:28obviously, if I was getting a degree in puppetry going for my master it's
- 8:33probably wouldn't have had as positive an outcome. So but coding, if you're
- 8:41like basically in retail and you learn how to code, you can wind up
- 8:46with an eight to tenfold increase in your income within a very short period of
- 8:50time, can't you. Yeah, that's correct. That's actually why, like
- 8:54I'm in Tampa Bay right now because I'm speaking at a conference on this exact
- 8:58topic, because you know, going back to those cabularies that I told you
- 9:01about, where cagulary one is like your income minosere expenses, and cadguary two
- 9:05is like savings for assets in debt. What all these quote unquot financial gurus
- 9:09out there they all talk about is cutting your expenses, but you could only
- 9:13cut so much. Like there's a floor of zero. So even if you
- 9:16cut all your expenses, that's it. But income it can grow infinitely.
- 9:22So these more the more skills you learn, and like you said, you
- 9:24spent eight hundred dollars on a podcast that's going to grow infinitely potentially. And
- 9:31then I look with like some of these grass schools, like the DOE just
- 9:33came out with the report that most graduate studies are not worth the costs.
- 9:37It's like, oh, yeah, I could have told you that, like
- 9:39the return is on there. Yeah, so yeah, absolutely. Well,
- 9:43if you become a professor at a semi prestigious university because you got your English,
- 9:50your doctorate in English, it paid a fortune. But you know,
- 9:54most people don't even don't even have jobs in the degree the area of the
- 10:01degree that they received. I mean, I guess I did it, got
- 10:05general business and law. But it's so much different now because my legal education.
- 10:13I made it back literally in less than six months. Yeah, but
- 10:16that was forty years ago and almost forty I don't make myself any older than
- 10:22I need to be. But nowadays, man, I paid a total of
- 10:26fifteen thousand bucks for three years of the law school. Maybe, yeah,
- 10:31I think I paid fifteen thousand, and that included the various fees. Nowadays
- 10:37though they pay a quarter of a million. That's kind of heavy. So
- 10:43what about what does your algorithm say about going to a state school as opposed
- 10:48to going to an ivy League school. Oh, there's a drastic, drastic
- 10:52different especially you know, depending on profession. So I'll give you an example,
- 10:56like if you go and get your NBA for all Stanford, okay,
- 11:01we will see data that says, okay, like your average undergrad makes about
- 11:05fifty grand a year. An NBA from Stanford, it's going to make about
- 11:11one hundred twenty thousand dollars on average that graduation. So we look at that
- 11:13difference seventy thousand dollars. That's like incremental value. But then if you even
- 11:18dig deeper into that data, you will say, okay, well, the
- 11:22average NBA salaries only eighty Stanfords one twenty, So it makes it difference.
- 11:28But even within Stanford, like those that had less than three years of experience,
- 11:33it's not one twenty, it's more closer to eighty. Those that have
- 11:37more experience, it's like one eighty. But so that's like an NBA.
- 11:39But then you deal with other types of graduate degrees. So like we worked
- 11:43a lot with doctors in physical therapy, for example, And it doesn't matter
- 11:48if you go to a USC for example, and pay two hundred grand,
- 11:52or if you go to a state school. Your income's basically the same.
- 11:56It's very very minor, and you're probably gonna be graduating making it about eighty
- 12:01thousand dollars a year. And so to your point, it's like, yeah,
- 12:05like go to the JC, go to the state school, keep the
- 12:09cost down and then it could be worth it. But I literally I talked
- 12:13to someone the other day between undergrad at and getting their DPT. They have
- 12:18five hundred and fifty thousand dollars in Steward Well and day, oh my gosh,
- 12:20we're a job that pays eighty five thousand dollars. That's nuts. Yeah,
- 12:24it's insane. And again, a government just came out with the report,
- 12:28I think it was like two days ago saying that graduate school is basically
- 12:31not worth it anymore because it's not the incomes I'll cover anywhere near what the
- 12:39cost is. And it's like, yeah, you're right, like it's very
- 12:41expensive. Yeah, And that's why you should go to a community college instead
- 12:48of a full blown four year school for year college, and you should overload
- 12:54credits and then go to your state school that accepts every credit from community colleges
- 13:01in that state, and you could save eighty percent on your income and maybe
- 13:05you'll get thirty percent less than somebody who graduates from Yell or Harvard undergrad maybe
- 13:13it even be worse. But if you can't pay for it out of pocket,
- 13:18then not having that debt, that's a way of lower your costs for
- 13:22the next twenty five years, isn't it? That is correct? And even
- 13:26as some of these programs that they're coming out for student levels where you know,
- 13:30you pay for twenty five years as a percentage of your income and the
- 13:33laws for giving even if you do that, you're still paying for twenty five
- 13:37years. It's still a burden over your head for twenty five years. Like
- 13:41is that something that you really wanted to do? You're ever to be fifty
- 13:43five years one of those things gone? Like ebody even have kids and now
- 13:48you're taking out loans for them too. Why in Dahl, it's just this
- 13:52endless cycle. And I really encourage people it doesn't matter what you're going into
- 13:56and even if you don't ever think you're gonna use it. But thin things
- 13:58like coding, data science like you said the podcast, Yeah, like learn
- 14:05those things. Like you know, I'm not a coder by any means,
- 14:07Like I'm more data and I build out altams and higher engineers, but I
- 14:11know basic things like Python and HTML and that type of stuff. And just
- 14:16knowing that basic information when I walk down the street, the number of business
- 14:22ideas that I see that I know that I can hold out just because I'd
- 14:26have that basics of information that's what's going to drive are coming through through the
- 14:30roof if you're really looking at that stuff. So I encourage agreeing to learn
- 14:33that stuff. And it's cheap to learn it too. Hey, it's funny.
- 14:39I was just looking at Facebook and I saw a friend of mine who
- 14:43was an airline pilot for forty five years. He bumped into a guy on
- 14:48his on his way through Newer Care reporter or LaGuardia, and this guy he
- 14:54had met like twenty five years ago. The guy sold him a pager,
- 15:00that's how long ago it was. And he had a talk with the guy,
- 15:03said, you know, you should become a pilot. Man, it's
- 15:07great lifestyle, incomes, great opportunities, especially now at the shortage. And
- 15:11he bumped into this guy twenty five years later in LaGuardia Airport and the guy
- 15:16had was flying off to someplace. He'd become a pilot. Now that's not
- 15:22a lifestyle for everybody by any stretch, but that's something that over the years
- 15:30has proven extremely well paid, great benefits, great opportunities. And if you'd
- 15:35like to travel a way to see the world on somebody else's dime, just
- 15:41one example. And you don't need to a college degree to become a pilot,
- 15:46although it doesn't hurt. Yeah, yeah, And there's there's a lot
- 15:50of degrees like that, So I'll give you an example. Obviously, we
- 15:54hire engineers, and I was just talking to our CTO the other day.
- 15:58I don't see us really hiring out of universities if we need injury level engineers
- 16:03anymore. Much Rather go to the code schools and hire people out of code
- 16:07schools, or just hire people that are taught and then give them a test
- 16:11to see how much they know or they don't know, and it hire them
- 16:15off of that. Just because of what we're seeing when we interview people like
- 16:21we actually see better, better people coming out of the code schools. Most
- 16:26of the time it's because they have some experience in that quote unquote real world
- 16:30already, Like they're they went to old school because they had they were doing
- 16:33some other profession and they needed they for some brother exactly, great point.
- 16:41Well, okay, but really enlightening your Joseph wasn't kind of like what we
- 16:45set out to start talking about. But I think it might be much more
- 16:48valuable for you guys out there. Joseph Rankie and the site is fit bucks
- 16:56f I tbux dot com. Make sure you go there take a look at
- 17:02what he's got. I think you'll be as fascinated as I am. And
- 17:06if you got a question for Joseph myself kl at carry Lutz dot com.
- 17:10The link to its site is in the show notes to this interview on Financial
- 17:14Survival Network dot com. Just click it, it'll take you there. And
- 17:17while you're at the site, lease sign up to your free newsletter. Joseph
- 17:22A pleasure, Thanks so much. Yeah, thanks for having me, Thanks
- 17:25for listening to carry Letts's Financial Survival Network, your solution to today's trying times
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