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Speaker 1: What's going on. I hope you're doing well. This is
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Speaker 1: Jeff here, and I wanted to let you know that
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Speaker 1: we've recorded this podcast episode on Wednesday, November thirteenth, twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four. So by the time you hear this, some
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Speaker 1: things may have changed here or there, but we hope
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Speaker 1: you enjoyed the show. Welcome to the Philadelphia Sports Table
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Speaker 1: podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show
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Speaker 1: in the world. That's right over eleven and a half
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Speaker 1: year strong, and we got a great show coming your
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Speaker 1: way this week, a bit of a different show. We
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Speaker 1: have two interviews that we're gonna be into on this episode.
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Speaker 1: First and foremost, we're gonna be getting into some college
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Speaker 1: football talk for you who do follow college football, if
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Speaker 1: you don't follow college football too much, the end of
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Speaker 1: the season is right around the corner, and the college
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Speaker 1: football Playoff is going to be here before we know it.
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Speaker 1: I am extremely excited to not only learned about find
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Speaker 1: out what teams are going to be in the college
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Speaker 1: football Playoff. There's going to be twelve teams, but how
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Speaker 1: this new bracket in college football, in this postseason college
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Speaker 1: football era, how it's going to bring more people into
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Speaker 1: the fold perhaps how it's going to bring those college
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Speaker 1: football outliers into perhaps really enjoying the college football product.
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Speaker 1: We're going to be getting into that with our guest
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Speaker 1: this week. We're gonna be talking some Penn State. With
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Speaker 1: our guests, We're gonna be talking about Oregon and just
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Speaker 1: the state of college football overall. Can't wait for that discussion.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be a real great one. And then
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Speaker 1: from there, we got another great guest we're bringing on
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Speaker 1: this week to talk about this Philadelphia Flyers team and
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Speaker 1: how this season is going. Look, folks, it was rough
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Speaker 1: for the Flyers right out of the gate, but over
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Speaker 1: the past few games, we've been seeing some really good
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Speaker 1: stuff from this team in various aspects of you know,
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Speaker 1: what they've been doing on the ice. So I can't
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Speaker 1: wait to get into where this team is at during
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Speaker 1: this rebuild, what we've been seeing from certain talent, and
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Speaker 1: really what it means to the future of this Flyers
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Speaker 1: team here during their twenty twenty four twenty twenty five season. Again,
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Speaker 1: we got two great guests coming your way this week.
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Speaker 1: Let's now get to our college football talk this week.
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Speaker 1: Great discussion coming your way joining us this week to
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Speaker 1: get into some college football talk, some Penn State talk.
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Speaker 1: What is going to be happening with the college football
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Speaker 1: playoff which is right around the corner. It's hard to
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Speaker 1: believe that it's almost here. It's gonna be fun seeing
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Speaker 1: what the top twelve teams in the nation are going
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Speaker 1: to be doing. But we've got with us from Fox
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio of the Lehigh Valley. We've got our good
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Speaker 1: friend Mike Raymond. Mike, Buddy, how you doing.
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Speaker 2: Man, Jeff. It's a beautiful sunny day in Pennsylvania and
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Speaker 2: Penn State doesn't play, so my anxiety lower.
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Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, Dude, what a season it's been for Penn State,
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Speaker 1: quite frankly, and I wanted to start off talking about
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Speaker 1: this team kind of where the season is with them
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Speaker 1: at this time. But I want to mention one football
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Speaker 1: program to get this discussion started with regard to Penn State,
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Speaker 1: and that's Ohio State. I swear, Mike, we talk about
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Speaker 1: it all the time whenever you jump on, and I'm
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Speaker 1: always so grateful to have you on. But like for
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Speaker 1: the rest of my life, I may not see Penn
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Speaker 1: State beat Ohio State. I'm not kidd I mean, I'm
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Speaker 1: not kidding, and of course, I'm kidding. They have to
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Speaker 1: beat them at some point down the road. But that's
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Speaker 1: like how I'm feeling right now at this point. It's
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Speaker 1: so it's so distressing every single year they can't get
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Speaker 1: over the homp with this team. I mean, so many
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Speaker 1: of us thought that it was going to be tough
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Speaker 1: for them, tough for Penn State, I should say, to
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Speaker 1: beat Ohio State this year. But we thought this would
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Speaker 1: be the year that they could actually do it, just
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Speaker 1: based on, you know, the talent that's on this Penn
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Speaker 1: State team. And of course it didn't happen. It was
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Speaker 1: the Nitny Lyons first loss of the season. And I'm
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Speaker 1: still feeling kind of haunted by this game. I don't
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Speaker 1: necessarily know if the Penn State football program, the players,
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Speaker 1: the coaches are feeling haunted by I kind of am
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Speaker 1: in a way still. So I'm wondering, how have you
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Speaker 1: been thinking about that loss for Penn State and man,
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Speaker 1: what it means for the season too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good question, and you think back to
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Speaker 2: how this season aligned, right, you miss Michigan, you miss
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Speaker 2: Oregon on the schedule, and you miss Indiana. But no
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Speaker 2: one really thought that was going to be a big
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Speaker 2: deal up until the recent recent weeks. But yeah, you know,
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Speaker 2: it kind of all lined up. And then as closer
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Speaker 2: the game got, he kept hearing that oh Ohio State's
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Speaker 2: on their third string left tackle and that might be
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Speaker 2: a real advantage for Abdul Carter and getting the pass rush.
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Speaker 2: And what you saw when they came out was like,
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Speaker 2: oh my god. They marched right down the field. They
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Speaker 2: looked like they were finally up for this game. They
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Speaker 2: had a good game plan. They settled for a field goal,
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Speaker 2: but people kind of forgot about that because the very
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Speaker 2: first possession for Ohio State was a pick six, and
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Speaker 2: you're feeling really good about it, but the offense was
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Speaker 2: absent the rest of the game, and and you kind
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Speaker 2: of see the real discrepancy and talent, you know, I
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Speaker 2: guess you can say, you know, there's there's there's great
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Speaker 2: talent at Penn State, and there's great talent that has
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Speaker 2: developed at Penn State, but there's just that incremental next
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Speaker 2: level of talent that Ohio State and programs like that
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Speaker 2: have a lot of SEC programs, including Alabama and Georgia,
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Speaker 2: you're going to see that next level incremental percentage points
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Speaker 2: of guys who can just get it done at a
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Speaker 2: different level. Uh, And that was really the biggest difference
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Speaker 2: in this game. You know, the final scoreboard probably doesn't
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Speaker 2: indicate how lopsided it was because it's a seven point
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Speaker 2: loss for Penn State. But you know, if Ohio State
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Speaker 2: doesn't fumble going into the end zone, or if you know,
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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith doesn't slip on that deep pass and finds
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Speaker 2: that ball, and we're talking probably a two touchdown a difference,
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Speaker 2: you know, at the end of the game.
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Speaker 1: And it felt like a blow It kind of felt
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Speaker 1: like a blowout to me. It's watching it, you know,
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Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, after what that interception on
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Speaker 1: Ohio State its first possession of the game, I'm thinking,
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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, momentum is completely on Penn State side. Here.
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Speaker 1: They're going to keep this momentum at least for another
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Speaker 1: forty five minutes here of this game or whatever it was,
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Speaker 1: you know, fifty minutes of the game. And it just
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Speaker 1: went completely off the ledge there.
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Speaker 2: Well, and then it comes back and circles back around
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Speaker 2: and somebody has to take a blame, and everybody's pointing
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Speaker 2: fingers at Franklin and I came on Fox Sports Radio
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Speaker 2: the very next Monday, and I said, listen, I'm very
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Speaker 2: disappointed in the student base and the people who were
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Speaker 2: booing the student athletes, And honestly, it was the student
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Speaker 2: athletes who walked off during the alma mater, obviously that
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Speaker 2: they were frustrated. Everyone was frustrated and boiled over with
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Speaker 2: Franklin going at it with a fan and can compound
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Speaker 2: that with whoever that Jabroni was in the parking lot
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Speaker 2: mouthing off the jalth. Yes, it was not a good
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Speaker 2: look for Penn State in the community. A proud fan
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Speaker 2: base and alumni base the largest in the nation. But
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Speaker 2: that's the one thing that I kept hearing after it. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you're the largest alumni brace in the nation. But compete
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Speaker 2: the next level of college football now in twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 2: You need to step it up. And their NIL program
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Speaker 2: isn't isn't what it needs to be to compete. If
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Speaker 2: you want to say that you want to beat these
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Speaker 2: top five, top ten teams, you have to contribute at
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Speaker 2: a different level, or they have to raise that money
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Speaker 2: at a different level, because that's what it takes. Everything's
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Speaker 2: been made about what Ohio State did in the print
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Speaker 2: transfer port of this offseason. One of the best defensive towns,
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Speaker 2: Judkins from from miss olemess who came up as was
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Speaker 2: one of the running backs that kind of beat up
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Speaker 2: Penn State late in that game. That's kind of what
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Speaker 2: it takes. You need to have the resources to go
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Speaker 2: out and get your team a little bit better. Now
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Speaker 2: everyone's pointing James Franklin three and seventeen versus top ten
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Speaker 2: programs and is eleven years at Penn State. Well, you
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Speaker 2: know what, Joe Paturno was one to nine versus top
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Speaker 2: five programs his first end game, So no one wants
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Speaker 2: to talk about that. So it's not like Penn State
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Speaker 2: has definitely been one of the blue chips of college football,
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Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. But there is also a next
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Speaker 2: level of things, and I think Franklin is on the
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Speaker 2: road and I am going to continue to defend James
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Speaker 2: Franklin because of what he's been able to do for
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Speaker 2: the program, bringing in the resources, aligning him with himself
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Speaker 2: of the administration, getting that Beaver Stadium project underway, getting
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Speaker 2: the last building up to code. These are all things
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Speaker 2: that need to happen in twenty twenty four college football,
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Speaker 2: and they're happening behind the scenes, and I think they're
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Speaker 2: right there that the season isn't over. And I know
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Speaker 2: we're going to get into that in just a second.
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Speaker 2: The season isn't over, So let's see what you can
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Speaker 2: get out of twenty twenty four. And I think I
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Speaker 2: was a little bit more. I felt a little bit
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Speaker 2: better out things. After I saw the final score from
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Speaker 2: the Washington game.
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Speaker 1: I got to say, Mike, I'm glad to hear you
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Speaker 1: say that you're going to keep defending James Franklin. I
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Speaker 1: am too. My college buddies, who you know, two of
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Speaker 1: them are members of this podcast platform, my co host
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Speaker 1: Lennon Eric you know, both went to Penn State as well,
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Speaker 1: and you know they're almost done with frank They're basically
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Speaker 1: done with Franklin at this point. And we talk about
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Speaker 1: the conundrum that is James Franklin somebody that has taken
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Speaker 1: this program to another level, yes, as you were just saying,
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Speaker 1: not to the elite next level, but has kept this
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Speaker 1: program relevant, has kept this program making money for the
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Speaker 1: college and the university at the end of the day.
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Speaker 1: I mean, from an athletic program standpoint, that's that's what
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Speaker 1: the boosters want, that's what you know, what I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's what the athletic program inevitably wants is making more money,
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Speaker 1: and they continue to do it time and time again.
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Speaker 1: There's winning seasons time and time again. So it's like,
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Speaker 1: where is that line with regard to James Franklin where
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Speaker 1: you see success. There's definite success, but it's not at
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Speaker 1: the elite level that some of us really want. But
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Speaker 1: I feel that this season there's the possibility for us
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Speaker 1: to get to another level, depending on how this college
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Speaker 1: football Playoff manifests itself.
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Speaker 2: Still opportunity there on the horizon. But here's the other
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Speaker 2: thing too, Like, as much as it is frustrating to
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Speaker 2: lose to Ohio State and from time to time Michigan,
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Speaker 2: I hate when people lump in that Michigan argument because
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Speaker 2: they have beaten Michigan recent in recent years, but I
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Speaker 2: will say the fact of the matter is, you know,
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Speaker 2: they're beating everybody else and there could be worse things.
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Speaker 2: You know, I think I saw the twenty eight to
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Speaker 2: zero against everybody else by Ohio State in Michigan. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I get that it's still frustrating, but like, yeah, he
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Speaker 2: could be losing some of those games, or he could
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Speaker 2: be disappointing in some of those those games that are
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Speaker 2: perceived as bigger games, especially when those other teams that's
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Speaker 2: in the expanding Big Ten, Right, everyone's going to have
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Speaker 2: to claw their way to the top. There's no more divisions.
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Speaker 2: It's the top two teams. Like you have to make
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Speaker 2: sure that you're beating those teams in the front of you.
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Speaker 2: And Penn State, Yeah, they're not beating Ohio State consistently,
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Speaker 2: but they're beating everybody else below them, right, And I
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Speaker 2: think that needs to be talked about just as much
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Speaker 2: as the frustration boils over with not beating Ohio State.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Look, we've seen some good things from this Penn
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Speaker 1: State football program this season. We've seen some things that
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Speaker 1: have been frustrating as well. And that's where I wanted
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Speaker 1: to go next with the conversation here with regard to
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Speaker 1: Penn State talking about disappointments and even positive surprises. So
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Speaker 1: two part question here will get into the disappointment aspect
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Speaker 1: of this team thus far this season. Well, what has
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Speaker 1: been for you, Mike, the biggest disappointment on this team
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Speaker 1: as we look towards the College Football Playoff? What's that
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Speaker 1: disappointment for you?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's disappointing, but it's not unexpected, you know, I
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Speaker 2: think it's got to be pointing to the play of
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Speaker 2: the wide receivers. I think it's tough you lose you know,
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Speaker 2: KeAndre Lambert Smith this offseason, as much as you don't
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Speaker 2: think he's that big of an impact, he's having a
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Speaker 2: decent year at Auburn. You know, you're missing out on
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Speaker 2: like that top end guy that can open up a defense.
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Speaker 2: And you saw it firsthand against Ohio State, where was
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Speaker 2: streu Allery supposed to throw the ball and there was
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Speaker 2: nothing open. And that really speaks to the ability of
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Speaker 2: the wide receivers that are on the roster. They have
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Speaker 2: really good wide receivers, but they don't have anyone elite.
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Speaker 2: They don't have a Jeremiah Smith, they don't have anybody
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Speaker 2: Tex Johnson out in Oregon, Like, they don't have that
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Speaker 2: big name wide receiver that's going to be able to
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Speaker 2: open things up for a quarterback like Drew Aller. And yeah,
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Speaker 2: the numbers were like underwhelming for Aler, but it could
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Speaker 2: have been a lot worse because he really did not
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Speaker 2: have anywhere to throw it. He was throwing it into coverage.
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Speaker 2: One of them got picked in the end zone. But
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Speaker 2: realistically that that's an incompletion any other time, you know,
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Speaker 2: nine times out of ten, and even down the stretch,
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Speaker 2: he was forcing balls to warrant. He had to force
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Speaker 2: balls into coverage because they were not open, right, And
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Speaker 2: that that to me, is the biggest thing that was
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Speaker 2: holding this team back from being great this year. They
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Speaker 2: need they need to find somebody that was going to
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Speaker 2: emerge as the number one wide receiver. You thought maybe
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Speaker 2: it might be Julian Fleming, And the biggest thing was,
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Speaker 2: up until last week against Washington, there was no wide
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Speaker 2: receiver that scored a touchdown a Big Ten play. Julian
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Speaker 2: Fleming the transfer scored the first touchdown in Big ten
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Speaker 2: play by wide receiver, and it came against the watch.
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Speaker 2: I forget. It was right before halftime or right after halftime,
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Speaker 2: and you know, come on, like that just can't happen.
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Speaker 2: It can't happen. Yeah, the wide receivers to me are
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Speaker 2: the I don't want to say disappointing, but if that's
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Speaker 2: the area that they need to grow if they want
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Speaker 2: to be competing at the top level of the Big.
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Speaker 1: Ten, absolutely well, on the flip side of the coin,
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering your thoughts are in terms of the biggest
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Speaker 1: positive surprise on this team as we're looking toward you know,
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Speaker 1: with this all with the playoff season is going to
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Speaker 1: be with the college football playoff. What's a bit what's
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Speaker 1: the biggest positive surprise that you've seen from Penn State?
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Speaker 2: You know, I liked it. There's two I'm going to
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Speaker 2: answer with. I'm going to like. I like the development
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Speaker 2: of what Abdul Carter's been able to do moving from
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Speaker 2: linebacker to defensive end, obviously to improve his draft stock. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's been a big deal. I will say there has
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Speaker 2: been some things that I've not liked about what Abdul
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Speaker 2: Carter has done this year. We know, specifically get a
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Speaker 2: lot of off side penalties because he's going to be aggressive,
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Speaker 2: he wants to do wants to be make at that
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Speaker 2: first step beat the offensive line and gets to the quarterback.
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Speaker 2: So if he can clean that up down the stretch,
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Speaker 2: especially in big games, you can't have those penalties happen
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Speaker 2: in big games. But to me, the biggest thing in
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Speaker 2: terms of positives around this Penn State team is things
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Speaker 2: that we were looking for to develop this off season
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Speaker 2: that has actually come to fruition, the leadership quality qualities
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Speaker 2: of Drew Aller. Drew Aller and what he's been able
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Speaker 2: to do. You know, he was always looked at it's
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Speaker 2: not the most vocal guy. But I saw him pointing
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Speaker 2: to the scoreboard against Washington this past weekend. He's been
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Speaker 2: able to be vocal and that leader in the in
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Speaker 2: the huddle. You know, his drive against USC to keep
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Speaker 2: that game alive within reach on the road and you know,
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Speaker 2: say what you will about what USC is now, but
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Speaker 2: they were playing for everything at that moment going It
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Speaker 2: was a huge win. That kind of gets swept under
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Speaker 2: the rug. As much as you want to point to
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Speaker 2: the fact that James Franklin hasn't won any big games.
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Speaker 2: That was a huge game and they can scheme those
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Speaker 2: amazing players into great space. You saw it early in
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Speaker 2: the game, Pence, that's a quality Penn State went. But
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Speaker 2: Drew Aller was able to go in that game in
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Speaker 2: the coliseum, march down that field and have so much success.
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Speaker 2: And you know, I think that team, the team really
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Speaker 2: respects that especially you know, he throws three interceptions, but
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Speaker 2: no one really talks about it because they won that game.
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Speaker 2: So Drew Aller and his leadership. That to me is
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Speaker 2: the biggest positive to this point this year of Penn State.
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Speaker 1: Mike really quick with Drew Aller. The one thing that
14:50
Speaker 1: has been striking for me this season with him is
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Speaker 1: not only how he's been able to develop. We've seen
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Speaker 1: tremendous development from last season twenty twenty three to where
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Speaker 1: he is now. Pocket management, his pocket presence, I think
15:04
Speaker 1: has been so much better. And I think that goes
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Speaker 1: to show that he's coachable. He's incredibly coachable, and he's
15:12
Speaker 1: able to adapt his own play things that he may
15:15
Speaker 1: have been comfortable with his entire you know, his entire career,
15:18
Speaker 1: going back to high school. He's been able to alter
15:21
Speaker 1: some of that and he's a very coachable player. And
15:24
Speaker 1: I think that's going to do well for him if
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Speaker 1: and when he does go to the NFL. I think
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Speaker 1: even besides the on the field play, it's it's his coachability.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's got a great new coach and offensive coordinator,
15:35
Speaker 2: Andy Colton Naked you know what, he was one of
15:38
Speaker 2: the names that kept getting brought up with the lack
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Speaker 2: of creativity the goal line stand and you know, I
15:43
Speaker 2: think he is going to put that in the back
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Speaker 2: of his head and remember that and make sure he
15:48
Speaker 2: grows from that as well as an offensive coordinator. But
15:51
Speaker 2: you mentioned the coachability, Like, there's a lot of a
15:55
Speaker 2: lot of things that go into this offense. We're actually
15:57
Speaker 2: seeing motion, you know, that would be able to be
16:00
Speaker 2: a big getting part of the year. A guy in
16:02
Speaker 2: motion helped the guy in his pre snap read, and
16:05
Speaker 2: then he's finding other guys he's mad, you know, whether
16:07
Speaker 2: it be Ty Warren or you know Lea. And Cliffords
16:10
Speaker 2: has had a couple of big games like he's he's
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Speaker 2: finding his guys in space and then like using his legs.
16:16
Speaker 2: You know, he lost some weight in this offseason. He's
16:19
Speaker 2: added some mobility to his game. You know, he's not
16:21
Speaker 2: Michael Vick out there, but he certainly has the real
16:24
Speaker 2: ability to tuck it and run and people have to
16:26
Speaker 2: account for that, you know when they're scheming defensively against him.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I like everything that he's done on the
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Speaker 2: field within between the ears. You know, he's certainly the
16:34
Speaker 2: biggest positive. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Well, great Penn State football talk with you there,
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Speaker 1: But I wanted to get into, you know, really what
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Speaker 1: we're going to be seeing around the corner here. With
16:43
Speaker 1: regard to the college football playoff. You know, the one
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Speaker 1: thing we were talking about on this podcast platform and
16:48
Speaker 1: on the show this past week is the upcoming playoff
16:53
Speaker 1: and how the inevitable bracket is going to look like.
16:56
Speaker 1: And I think it has the ability to bring in
16:58
Speaker 1: more viewers and help more people understand the college football
17:02
Speaker 1: experience overall. And I think I think the fact that
17:05
Speaker 1: it's not just going to be college football powerhouses that
17:09
Speaker 1: we've seen the past twenty thirty years. They're going to
17:12
Speaker 1: have a real chance at potentially getting to the championship game.
17:17
Speaker 1: And I think that is a real, you know, quote
17:19
Speaker 1: win for college football overall. Mike, I'm wondering do you
17:22
Speaker 1: feel the same way, And you know, what are your
17:24
Speaker 1: thoughts on what this experience itself is going to be
17:28
Speaker 1: for you know, possibly the you know, the college football
17:31
Speaker 1: outlier fans. You know what might that be for them?
17:35
Speaker 2: It's a perception that you have some skin in the game,
17:37
Speaker 2: right Like I still maintain that there probably are only
17:41
Speaker 2: about four or five teams that can actually win a
17:44
Speaker 2: national title. It doesn't matter the system was broken. The
17:48
Speaker 2: fact of the matter is there was five major power
17:50
Speaker 2: conferences and there was only four slots, like why even
17:53
Speaker 2: win your conference right like it's and for the teams
17:55
Speaker 2: that were not Power five teams, you never had a
17:57
Speaker 2: shot even if you went undefeated all up into Florida State.
18:00
Speaker 2: And yet I understand injury played a factor in that
18:03
Speaker 2: decision last year, and we get it, but like the
18:05
Speaker 2: system was broken, there's no reason Florida State has been
18:08
Speaker 2: in a tailspin ever since that moment, you know, so
18:11
Speaker 2: you know, it certainly gives the perception that you can
18:15
Speaker 2: still play for a title, and for Penn State fans
18:18
Speaker 2: that that means the world. You know, how close have
18:20
Speaker 2: we been in the past couple of years that we
18:22
Speaker 2: would have been able to be in this postseason? Now
18:23
Speaker 2: what we won the national championship, the net remains to
18:26
Speaker 2: be seen. But you know, I still think that you know,
18:29
Speaker 2: the Boise States of the world, the Byus of the world,
18:31
Speaker 2: like being able to have some skin in the game,
18:34
Speaker 2: say that they could have a potential home game in
18:36
Speaker 2: December on their college campus. Like that to me is
18:39
Speaker 2: an another another great thing that the expanded playeroff is
18:44
Speaker 2: going to now, whether or not expands any further. We
18:46
Speaker 2: keep hearing fourteen teams and possibility, you know, but let's
18:50
Speaker 2: see how the first year goes. Let's see what you know,
18:52
Speaker 2: really learned from what you saw in year one before
18:56
Speaker 2: we start jumping to conclusions and getting anything there. The
18:59
Speaker 2: one thing that I've kind of looked at and thought
19:03
Speaker 2: of the SEC man they are cannibalizing themselves. It's going
19:08
Speaker 2: to be hard to continue to be you know, you know,
19:10
Speaker 2: think of Georgia, like, I think they're a really good team,
19:13
Speaker 2: but they may not make the postseason. They could, it's
19:16
Speaker 2: a possibility, you know, they're certainly not playing for a
19:18
Speaker 2: conference title anymore. Like this is an interesting, you.
19:23
Speaker 1: Know, crossroads. I mean, it's kind of a crossroads in
19:28
Speaker 1: a lot of ways with regard to the college football experience.
19:31
Speaker 2: Well, you can also like having that buy, right, like
19:35
Speaker 2: being able to play for that buy. That's the other
19:36
Speaker 2: thing too, like being able to rest up. And and
19:39
Speaker 2: the other thing too when I was thinking about it
19:41
Speaker 2: from a Penn State perspective, is who can you potentially
19:43
Speaker 2: be in the postseason that could be that quality win,
19:46
Speaker 2: Like if you're losing the Ohio State, having the opportunity
19:49
Speaker 2: to go up against the Notre Dame, having an opportunity
19:52
Speaker 2: to beat an SEC team like that to me, you
19:56
Speaker 2: can still end on a positive note. You don't have
19:58
Speaker 2: to worry about guys opting out as much anymore. Like
20:01
Speaker 2: that's another thing that kind of reared its ugly ahead
20:03
Speaker 2: the past couple of years. People got frustrated with that,
20:06
Speaker 2: and I understand why did they make that decision. There's
20:09
Speaker 2: money on the table, I understand. But if we're looking
20:12
Speaker 2: for the good things around college football, continuing to grow
20:16
Speaker 2: the sport, allowing the fans to still be satisfied with
20:20
Speaker 2: some of the results, I think it's important to allow
20:22
Speaker 2: some of the best players in the sport being able
20:24
Speaker 2: to play in the postseason. We'll see that this year.
20:26
Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident.
20:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am as well. Again, folks, we're talking to
20:29
Speaker 1: Mike Raymond from Fox Sports Radio of the Lehigh Valley.
20:32
Speaker 1: Follow him on the Twitter slash x at Mike Raymond LV.
20:36
Speaker 1: He is a great, great follow and I believe you're
20:38
Speaker 1: over on threads too. It's it all Mike RAYMONDLV.
20:40
Speaker 2: Also correct, Mike, I am on threads. I don't post
20:44
Speaker 2: much on this, okay, but yeah, I'm there.
20:46
Speaker 1: I've been transitioning a lot more. Quite frankly, it's not
20:50
Speaker 1: the same experience I mean, it's conversation for another time.
20:53
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. But my co host
20:55
Speaker 1: Len just got off Twitter this past week. He's like,
20:59
Speaker 1: that's it. I am done.
21:02
Speaker 2: Yes, it was because of the college football playoff anouncement. Exactly,
21:07
Speaker 2: That's what it.
21:07
Speaker 1: Was, exactly, exactly. Well, Mike, you know, you know, looking
21:12
Speaker 1: at this college football season, I mean, it wasn't gonna
21:15
Speaker 1: be all lollipops and rainbows for some of the most
21:17
Speaker 1: dominant college football teams in recent memory. I mean, it's
21:19
Speaker 1: so interesting that a team like Indiana is ranked higher
21:23
Speaker 1: than teams like Alabama and Georgia at this particular point
21:26
Speaker 1: of time US recording this, so you can say the
21:30
Speaker 1: same with BYU. In fact, there are a lot of
21:32
Speaker 1: really good teams in the top twenty five. I mean Army,
21:35
Speaker 1: of course, I think they're still undefeated at this point,
21:38
Speaker 1: and there's certainly some really good top twelve talented teams
21:42
Speaker 1: as well. As we're looking towards the college football Playoff,
21:45
Speaker 1: how do you describe some of the movements and shifts
21:49
Speaker 1: that we're seeing in college football this season as it
21:52
Speaker 1: pertains to the Indiana's or the Armies or the BYUS.
21:56
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts here.
21:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think maybe for portal
22:00
Speaker 2: could potentially be appointed that as one of the big
22:02
Speaker 2: reasons as why you're seeing such a disbursement of talent
22:05
Speaker 2: across with multiple places, which you know, I think that's
22:08
Speaker 2: one positive I guess you can say about the transfer portal.
22:11
Speaker 2: I still think some of the rules of college football,
22:13
Speaker 2: including transfer portal, including nil, need to be refined and
22:16
Speaker 2: universally accepted by all college football teams, but that if
22:19
Speaker 2: you're looking for positives, that certainly can be a talent
22:22
Speaker 2: dispersement from the transfer portal to getting all these teams.
22:25
Speaker 2: Indian he brought up Indiana Kurt Signetti what he's been
22:28
Speaker 2: able to do at Indiana. You know, everyone wanted to
22:31
Speaker 2: laugh at him at that opening press conference when he
22:34
Speaker 2: just said, look me up, you know, I win wherever
22:36
Speaker 2: I go. Well, yeah, he's done that to this point.
22:39
Speaker 2: They have Ohio State in two weeks, so we'll see
22:41
Speaker 2: what happens at the end ultimately. But for stories like that,
22:44
Speaker 2: I think it's just so special. And you know, whether
22:47
Speaker 2: you know you're a top twenty five team or just
22:49
Speaker 2: being able to be competitive like you're if you're a
22:52
Speaker 2: perennial bottom dweller and just being able to continue to
22:55
Speaker 2: build your program through the transfer portal and getting like
22:58
Speaker 2: one or two players, and you know, there's there's a
23:00
Speaker 2: lot to be said about that. You know, it's unusual
23:03
Speaker 2: for some of the traditionalists and college football that are
23:05
Speaker 2: going to say, you know, they're so used to the
23:08
Speaker 2: Alabama winning we year after year after year, like it's
23:11
Speaker 2: going to be it's going to take you some time
23:12
Speaker 2: to adapt. But I like the fact that other teams
23:15
Speaker 2: have an opportunity, are able to compete, and their schools
23:19
Speaker 2: deserve to be happy, just like Alabama has for the
23:21
Speaker 2: past two decades.
23:22
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Look, it may have been three or four weeks
23:26
Speaker 1: ago when Indiana I think I think they may have
23:28
Speaker 1: beat Nebraska or something like that. They absolutely killed them,
23:31
Speaker 1: and then they ended up beating Washington. I was like,
23:33
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. I'm like, I'm like, they're serious. I
23:36
Speaker 1: mean not that Nebraska, necessarily in Washington are the greatest
23:39
Speaker 1: college football programs, but still I was like, man, this
23:43
Speaker 1: is a team to be reckoned with here. And it's
23:45
Speaker 1: fun to why. I know, there's a Big Ten team
23:47
Speaker 1: that's been in the Big Ten for quite some time
23:49
Speaker 1: Penn State usually routes them when they play each other,
23:52
Speaker 1: but still, it's really fun to watch these college programs
23:56
Speaker 1: that are able to shock, really shock us and get
24:00
Speaker 1: to the next level.
24:02
Speaker 2: You look at the Indiana schedule and you can point out,
24:05
Speaker 2: you know, their only quality win is against the down
24:07
Speaker 2: Michigan team. I guess you could probably say, but they
24:11
Speaker 2: play the teams that are on their schedule, it should
24:14
Speaker 2: be that. Yeah, So Indiana has a bye week this week,
24:17
Speaker 2: I believe, and then they have Ohio State. Yes, so yeah,
24:20
Speaker 2: that's you know, if you beat if you beat Ohio State,
24:22
Speaker 2: then you're gonna have people's eyes wide open because it's
24:24
Speaker 2: all all but assured that you're going to beat the
24:26
Speaker 2: worst team in Purdue the following week. So if you
24:29
Speaker 2: if you can beat Ohio State, then you're talking about
24:32
Speaker 2: a huge, huge shift. So Indiana certainly one of the
24:35
Speaker 2: storylines that I'm following this this season when it comes to,
24:39
Speaker 2: you know, teams that are just fun to watch and
24:42
Speaker 2: being able to just compete in a level that they
24:45
Speaker 2: really never have before. They haven't they've never gone to
24:47
Speaker 2: ten and oh before, first time in program history.
24:49
Speaker 1: It's incredible. If if Indiana beats Ohio State. They're just
24:52
Speaker 1: going to kill Penn State. If Indiana place, They're just
24:57
Speaker 1: and it'll be so bizarre to watch. Not that I
24:59
Speaker 1: think that's gonna happen, but still I think Ohio State's
25:03
Speaker 1: the better team than Indiana. But moving along here, Mike,
25:06
Speaker 1: two teams that I'm really interested in outside of the
25:09
Speaker 1: top ten, I'm sorry, top twelve, which with regard to
25:13
Speaker 1: the college Football Playoff is Colorado and I mentioned the
25:17
Speaker 1: other one, Army earlier. You know, both have incredibly talented
25:20
Speaker 1: players on both sides of the ball, and I wonder
25:22
Speaker 1: if either you know, based on their play over the
25:24
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, can get themselves into a position
25:27
Speaker 1: where they will be in the top twelve and bracket eligible.
25:31
Speaker 1: I mean, both these teams might be able to make
25:33
Speaker 1: it if things fall the right way for them. I'm wondering,
25:36
Speaker 1: are there any teams that you're keeping your eyes on
25:39
Speaker 1: or you think maybe able to sneak into the top
25:40
Speaker 1: twelve and get that playoff?
25:42
Speaker 2: Berth Yeah, I mean, sm Use one of the teams
25:46
Speaker 2: that you know, people, you know, it doesn't sound like
25:49
Speaker 2: a sexy pick, but they're kind of right there, and
25:52
Speaker 2: especially with some other teams in the conference. Losing this
25:55
Speaker 2: past weekend, you can see a path for them. A
25:58
Speaker 2: and M. I think is a dangerous They can get
26:00
Speaker 2: themselves in the top twelve. You know, that is a
26:04
Speaker 2: team that I don't want to have to play. I
26:06
Speaker 2: picked against them against Missouri earlier in the year, and
26:08
Speaker 2: I think that, Yeah, I'm regretting that one. Yeah, Clemson
26:12
Speaker 2: from the standpoint that they've been there before, I don't
26:14
Speaker 2: know what their path looks like at seven and two.
26:17
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they're going to get there. I'm just
26:19
Speaker 1: not sure.
26:21
Speaker 2: It's tough. But if you asked me, I would say
26:24
Speaker 2: Boise State, smut, Texas, A and M. Those are the
26:26
Speaker 2: ones that I'm keeping my eye on.
26:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, before I let you go here, buddy,
26:32
Speaker 1: I wanted to just get into one more topic here.
26:36
Speaker 1: You know, since Oregon they're the number one team in
26:39
Speaker 1: the nation, you know we have to ask, I think
26:41
Speaker 1: the question if they're actually vulnerable heading into this final
26:45
Speaker 1: stretch of the season. And even as we look towards
26:47
Speaker 1: the bracket, They've got Wisconsin, they've got Washington left on
26:50
Speaker 1: their schedule, two teams that they should beat. But I
26:53
Speaker 1: mean they have been running into some inconsistencies here and there.
26:56
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw it against Maryland this past week.
26:59
Speaker 1: They squeaked out a week in earlier this season against
27:01
Speaker 1: Boise State. Yes, they beat Ohio State by one point.
27:06
Speaker 1: I wonder if there are some vulnerabilities with Oregon that
27:09
Speaker 1: we should be looking at down the stretch here, maybe
27:11
Speaker 1: even into the playoffs. What that actually does to the
27:14
Speaker 1: playoff bracket itself, and does it make things a little
27:17
Speaker 1: bit more interesting for a team that that we may
27:20
Speaker 1: not be honing ourselves in on at this point. I
27:22
Speaker 1: don't know one of your thoughts here with regard to Oregon.
27:24
Speaker 2: Oregon I think is a pretty complete team. You know.
27:27
Speaker 2: I was very critical of Dylan Gabriel coming into the season,
27:31
Speaker 2: as you know, how many how different schools has he
27:34
Speaker 2: played a college around, multiple different schools, journeyman quarterback, and
27:38
Speaker 2: I thought he might just be one of those guys
27:40
Speaker 2: that just accumulates a bunch of stats. To this point,
27:42
Speaker 2: he's played pretty well. I don't I think certainly we
27:45
Speaker 2: could look at, you know, some more passing touchdowns at
27:48
Speaker 2: this point in the season. I thought I might see
27:49
Speaker 2: closer to twenty five thirty at this point in the season.
27:52
Speaker 2: But you know we're gonna we're gonna be if we're
27:55
Speaker 2: gonna try to find cracks in the armor for the
27:59
Speaker 2: number one team, we got to be a little bit
28:01
Speaker 2: more critical, and you know, he proved in a big
28:03
Speaker 2: in a big way. I'd like to see them continue
28:05
Speaker 2: to grow and I'd like to see some more quality
28:08
Speaker 2: road winds. I know there's only two games left on
28:10
Speaker 2: the schedule, but you know, they do go to Camp Randall.
28:12
Speaker 2: And of course we talked about Washington certainly not the
28:16
Speaker 2: national runner up we saw, you know, a year ago,
28:20
Speaker 2: but you know, I don't know. I think they can
28:22
Speaker 2: be got, you know, especially because of the thing that
28:26
Speaker 2: I said about Gabriel to start, But at this point,
28:28
Speaker 2: they haven't given us any reason to think that that
28:31
Speaker 2: was going to happen. And you know, they played their
28:34
Speaker 2: very best against Ohio State, so give credit where credit
28:38
Speaker 2: is due. Could they be the national Championship champions? Yes? Sure,
28:43
Speaker 2: would there be. Would I be shocked if they're not?
28:45
Speaker 2: Probably not, because I just think it's going to be
28:47
Speaker 2: a harder path for whoever raises the trophy at the
28:50
Speaker 2: end of the year, because it's having this playoff you're
28:52
Speaker 2: going to have to beat at least two really good
28:56
Speaker 2: teams on your way to that championship. Whether it be
28:59
Speaker 2: two to three, it's not gonna matter. But Oregon, as
29:02
Speaker 2: long as they can continue to stay in that top four,
29:06
Speaker 2: they can secure that home game and the bye that
29:09
Speaker 2: makes their path a little bit easier.
29:10
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to watch for sure. And I'm
29:13
Speaker 1: hoping to have you on again at some point down
29:17
Speaker 1: the road, Buddy, I appreciate you taking the time.
29:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely again, folks.
29:22
Speaker 1: Mike Raymond from Fox Sports Radio of the Lehigh Valley
29:24
Speaker 1: at Mike Raymond LV on the Twitter slash x Buddy.
29:27
Speaker 1: Always great talking to you. Take care, happy college football watching.
29:32
Speaker 1: We'll be listening to you on Fox Sports Radio the
29:34
Speaker 1: lee High Valley and let's talk at some point before
29:36
Speaker 1: the college football playoff starts.
29:38
Speaker 2: All right, let's do it. Thanks, Jeff.
29:41
Speaker 1: Always love having Mike on the show. And right now, folks,
29:44
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29:47
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30:21
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30:24
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30:27
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30:30
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30:34
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30:37
Speaker 1: to some Flyers talk. But we're gonna take a quick break.
30:39
Speaker 1: We'll be back in just a bit. All right, we
30:42
Speaker 1: are back, and let's get into some Philadelphia Flyers talk
30:46
Speaker 1: right now about how this team really started the season
30:49
Speaker 1: and now where they are at as we are looking
30:53
Speaker 1: at where they're at here in mid November, where they
30:56
Speaker 1: could possibly be going in December, and further, It's an
30:59
Speaker 1: interesting Flyers team for sure during this rebuild. Let's get
31:03
Speaker 1: to that discussion right now. Joining us this week, to
31:06
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31:10
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31:17
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31:19
Speaker 1: you doing.
31:19
Speaker 3: Man, I'm doing good. I'm happy to be back as always,
31:22
Speaker 3: and it's a it's always good when the Flyers are
31:24
Speaker 3: playing better hockey. The better, Yes, better hockey, better hockey,
31:29
Speaker 3: not quite good hockey, but better.
31:31
Speaker 1: Better hockey. Hopeful hockey too. I think I think we
31:33
Speaker 1: can put hopeful in there too, right.
31:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, three game points streak, you know that's not something going.
31:38
Speaker 1: Here exactly exactly. Well, Before we get into some some
31:41
Speaker 1: good stuff, some more positive stuff that we've been seeing
31:44
Speaker 1: with this team as of late, I kind of wanted
31:46
Speaker 1: to go back a little bit, go back to the
31:48
Speaker 1: beginning of this season. Wanted to assess where some of
31:52
Speaker 1: the challenges were with this team right out of the gate,
31:55
Speaker 1: both on offense and defense. I kind of wanted to
31:57
Speaker 1: set that foundation in that stage for where the team
32:00
Speaker 1: is at right now, Ryan, and then we can you know,
32:03
Speaker 1: kind of dive into some defense, dive into some more
32:05
Speaker 1: offense stuff. You know, we're gonna get into torts as well.
32:09
Speaker 1: It was a rough defensive star Let's start with the offense.
32:12
Speaker 1: I'll say it was a rough offensive start to the season.
32:15
Speaker 1: We talked about it here on this podcast platform. We
32:17
Speaker 1: know you talked about over at Broad Street Hockey as well.
32:20
Speaker 1: Why do you think that we saw such a rough
32:23
Speaker 1: offensive time coming out of the gate. Was it the
32:25
Speaker 1: guy's just trying to do too much? Because that's what
32:27
Speaker 1: we were seeing here And I wanted to get your
32:29
Speaker 1: thoughts to set that stage of where this team was
32:33
Speaker 1: to start the season.
32:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was an extremely disappointing start after
32:38
Speaker 3: that shootout wind to open it up, and yeah, I
32:40
Speaker 3: think it's just like I want to preface this by saying,
32:42
Speaker 3: none of this is speaking ill of Matt van Miichkoff,
32:45
Speaker 3: but anytime you add like a shiny new piece to
32:49
Speaker 3: a machine, like you replaced Cam Akinson with Matt Vanmachkoff,
32:52
Speaker 3: Atkinson's clearly a worse player, but he's that old rusty
32:56
Speaker 3: gear in the machine that you know what you're gonna get.
32:58
Speaker 3: You know it's gonna do its job. Ye know, it
33:00
Speaker 3: might might falter here or there. Then you add in
33:02
Speaker 3: this new, shiny gear. You know, new technology. It's great,
33:06
Speaker 3: but it takes some time to kind of work with that,
33:08
Speaker 3: and the Flyers definitely saw that early on, trying to
33:11
Speaker 3: find who's going to play with who you know, they
33:13
Speaker 3: can't just go all out on the four check and
33:16
Speaker 3: back check because that's not Mitchkov's game. And that's perfectly fine.
33:18
Speaker 3: We want him to score goals. But you know, if
33:20
Speaker 3: there's one winger that's not going to be a two
33:23
Speaker 3: hundred foot player, that affects his line mates, that affects
33:27
Speaker 3: every line it just trickles down. So I think it
33:29
Speaker 3: was just you know, it's mostly the similar team, same
33:33
Speaker 3: coaching staff, but I think they have also tried to
33:35
Speaker 3: incorporate you know, more controlled breakouts, more controlled entries, less
33:39
Speaker 3: high flips in there, less less dumps. So it's about
33:43
Speaker 3: you know, building, developing this team and not winning right now,
33:47
Speaker 3: which is very frustrating to watch as a fan, but
33:49
Speaker 3: you know, thinking long term, it's hopeful.
33:52
Speaker 1: As you said before, absolutely look at the beginning of
33:55
Speaker 1: the season, you know, I think we saw guys like
33:57
Speaker 1: Own Tippett and Joel Farrabee really just trying to do
34:00
Speaker 1: way too much. They get into the zone and once
34:03
Speaker 1: they get into the zone, it'd be just like it'd
34:05
Speaker 1: be like a free for all. It just disorganization across
34:08
Speaker 1: the board. We're not seeing that as much anymore. Defensively, however,
34:13
Speaker 1: you know, they really weren't helping the goaltenders out at
34:16
Speaker 1: the start of the season. Frankly, I mean we saw
34:18
Speaker 1: that things are starting to get a little better defensively
34:21
Speaker 1: as well. Why do you think the defense struggled early
34:24
Speaker 1: this season?
34:24
Speaker 3: Rhyin, Yeah, I think the defense is just a part
34:27
Speaker 3: of that. The offense not being able to come back
34:29
Speaker 3: and help them out, like it's a five man unit
34:31
Speaker 3: and if they're not all playing together, people got to
34:33
Speaker 3: cover for other people, like they're not sure where they're
34:35
Speaker 3: going to be. And also I think people underestimate the
34:39
Speaker 3: loss of Sean Walker, like I know we traded him
34:41
Speaker 3: late in this season. Last year, Jimmie Drysdale replaces him.
34:44
Speaker 3: Drysdale is nowhere, Neil near. The defensive players are going
34:47
Speaker 3: to get into him. He needs a lot of time. Sami, Sam,
34:51
Speaker 3: him and and York have been great when healthy. Bristo's
34:54
Speaker 3: been very surprising, very good, but very true. Yeah, Zamula's
34:58
Speaker 3: had a tough start. Steeler missed some time. I'm like,
35:00
Speaker 3: it was just like a mixing and matching and finding
35:03
Speaker 3: that system. Like the Flyers obviously don't have a great
35:06
Speaker 3: defensive corps, right, they were better than they were playing
35:09
Speaker 3: early on, and we are starting to see that.
35:11
Speaker 1: All right. Well, now that we dove into what was
35:14
Speaker 1: wrong kind of with the team at the start of
35:17
Speaker 1: the season, let's get into like what has actually been
35:19
Speaker 1: going right for them. I mean the road trip could
35:23
Speaker 1: be a potential turning point I think for this season perhaps.
35:27
Speaker 1: I mean, they seem to be an improved version of themselves,
35:30
Speaker 1: really really dictating the speed of the game, especially in
35:33
Speaker 1: the game against the Panthers. Even though they lost that game,
35:36
Speaker 1: there was a lot of hope I thought with regard
35:38
Speaker 1: to that game and what we saw both offensively and defensively.
35:42
Speaker 1: I mean, there's more consistent offense. I'll say, over these
35:46
Speaker 1: past few games, here, Ryan, what have you seen with
35:50
Speaker 1: this team where they may be like turning the ship,
35:52
Speaker 1: the ship may be turning around in a positive way.
35:55
Speaker 1: What have you been seeing as of late?
35:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that that road trip definitely could be
35:59
Speaker 3: a turning point, because I remember talking about it, like,
36:01
Speaker 3: you know, Carolina, Tampa Florida, if they get one point,
36:04
Speaker 3: it's lucky. And they got three point three points in
36:06
Speaker 3: three games, which is you know, impressive. Now even going
36:09
Speaker 3: back to that wild game, like they started one five
36:12
Speaker 3: and one, their five three and one since then, and
36:15
Speaker 3: like two of those losses are to Boston and Carolina,
36:18
Speaker 3: Like you can't you can't complain too much about that.
36:20
Speaker 3: But more more more recently, especially that Tampa Bay game,
36:24
Speaker 3: getting a Beach Cough out of the lineup, which we'll
36:26
Speaker 3: get to. It gets back to what I was saying,
36:29
Speaker 3: like what they were last year, get back to their system.
36:31
Speaker 3: Anthony Rashard's in there, Like they're just playing good hockey,
36:35
Speaker 3: good good structure for check backchecking, and most importantly shooting
36:39
Speaker 3: the puck. Because in Carolina they had sixteen shots. Their
36:43
Speaker 3: next game they had thirty one, and then thirty seven,
36:46
Speaker 3: then forty three on Monday Night against them. Yes, they
36:49
Speaker 3: have one and eleven shots in their past three games.
36:52
Speaker 3: They had one hundred and twenty five shots in their
36:54
Speaker 3: previous six, So complete change of offensive philosophy that they're
36:59
Speaker 3: just getting puck on that. And like you said, yeah, Tippet, Farrabee, Frost,
37:03
Speaker 3: all these guys were you know, holding their sticks tight,
37:06
Speaker 3: like just needing something to go. Like, hockey players need
37:10
Speaker 3: confidence and tipp It's starting to feel it now, Farrabe
37:13
Speaker 3: a little bit less so, but we're starting to see
37:15
Speaker 3: tippet connect ego so and we finally have a few
37:18
Speaker 3: consistent lines. We have Tippitt Viatoria connecting up top. We
37:22
Speaker 3: have Farraby Lawton Brink in the middle six, we have
37:25
Speaker 3: the fourth line is usually together. So that's the key
37:28
Speaker 3: is finding the trios that play well together and nowhere
37:32
Speaker 3: like each each other is going to be like because
37:34
Speaker 3: it's not about chasing the puck. You have to go
37:36
Speaker 3: where your role is playing. You have to go to
37:39
Speaker 3: the or the ice. So once you're playing with line
37:42
Speaker 3: mates a long time, it should gain chemistry and we
37:45
Speaker 3: are seeing that over the past three games.
37:47
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37:51
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37:54
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38:03
Speaker 2: Correct.
38:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh, how.
38:05
Speaker 1: Do I remember handles all the time. It's amazing. I'm
38:07
Speaker 1: amazed myself I'm just kidding, seriously, I just pulled that
38:10
Speaker 1: one out, like, oh my gosh. Anyway, it's a great
38:12
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38:16
Speaker 1: of course we got to get into Matt Ve Mitchkov
38:17
Speaker 1: meetch CoV. I'm constantly mis mispronouncing it. It's Mattve meetsch CoV, right,
38:22
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is, right, I think?
38:24
Speaker 3: So I try to imitate what what JJ says on
38:27
Speaker 3: their broadcast. Okay, Mitch Coff meets golf even like Matt
38:30
Speaker 3: Vey Matt VII, Like, no one knows, right, no one
38:32
Speaker 3: knows for sure?
38:33
Speaker 1: All right, Well, look his benching for a couple games, uh,
38:37
Speaker 1: and then his return. I wanted to get into this
38:39
Speaker 1: with you because there was a lot of folks within
38:41
Speaker 1: Flyers Nation that were just like absolutely just in sense
38:45
Speaker 1: that that that he was scratched for a couple of games,
38:48
Speaker 1: and you know, rightfully so in a way, you know,
38:51
Speaker 1: I wasn't too like perturbed by it. It was kind of
38:54
Speaker 1: annoying for me. I'm like, you know, it's like, why
38:58
Speaker 1: why are you doing this right off the bat tour?
39:00
Speaker 1: But I gotta say he responded to being scratched for
39:03
Speaker 1: a couple of games by really coming out and proving
39:06
Speaker 1: a point to the coaching staff and John Tortorella for sure,
39:10
Speaker 1: Like he's not perfect by any stretch, but he showed
39:14
Speaker 1: what kind of offensive weapon he is and will be
39:17
Speaker 1: for this team. So just so much promise, so much
39:21
Speaker 1: hope with him. I thought it was interesting how you
39:23
Speaker 1: talked about him as being like the new technology piece
39:26
Speaker 1: on this team. You know, you just trying to get
39:28
Speaker 1: things figured out, and once you do, I mean that
39:31
Speaker 1: piece of technology is going to be really special. So, Ryan,
39:34
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on the meachcuff scratches, his return
39:37
Speaker 1: to the lineup, and really what it means for this
39:39
Speaker 1: team even from a long term perspective here.
39:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand people that are upset, and I say,
39:44
Speaker 3: you know, the only way you can learn to play
39:46
Speaker 3: in the NHL is by playing on the ice, and
39:48
Speaker 3: they want to see him out there every game. And
39:49
Speaker 3: I get that, and I completely understand that. Back, you know,
39:52
Speaker 3: seven ten years ago with Connectney when he was feted
39:54
Speaker 3: by Hackstall, I would yell about that about that. But
39:58
Speaker 3: this is John Tortorella, a completely lead different coach. We'll
40:01
Speaker 3: get into him more later, but yeah, I mean, the
40:03
Speaker 3: writing was kind of on the wall. He was getting
40:05
Speaker 3: benched in the third period of that Carolina game, only
40:07
Speaker 3: played on the power play, dropped down the lineup a bit,
40:10
Speaker 3: so he was getting tired too. He didn't have a
40:12
Speaker 3: point in four games, which is, you know, pretty long
40:16
Speaker 3: for him because he had points in six of the
40:18
Speaker 3: first eight games. But yeah, I mean, bouncing back there
40:21
Speaker 3: on Monday night against the Sharks against Maclin, Celebriney got
40:24
Speaker 3: that punch in the face at the regulation that luckily
40:27
Speaker 3: he didn't cost him. It was a good to see
40:29
Speaker 3: there for for the broad Steed Foley mentality. Yeah, and
40:32
Speaker 3: he had that that breakaway goal, gorgeous goal in the shootout,
40:36
Speaker 3: the assist on the power play, the touch pass from
40:38
Speaker 3: from Andre to him up to connect me. I am
40:42
Speaker 3: worried about like who he's gonna play with because I
40:44
Speaker 3: don't love him with Ryan Paling and Anthony Rashard, but
40:47
Speaker 3: not at all. If it were If it works, it works,
40:50
Speaker 3: and because we want to see him on the power player.
40:52
Speaker 3: If it's going to work, I don't know, it's not
40:55
Speaker 3: gonna it's not gonna work. But I mean, you got
40:58
Speaker 3: two points. Ryan Paling had that that pass for the
41:00
Speaker 3: breakaway against the Sharks. Maybe it won't work against a
41:04
Speaker 3: better team when you're not playing San Jose. But yeah,
41:06
Speaker 3: this is all a part of the long term development,
41:09
Speaker 3: Like I know the Sharks are like scratching Will Smith
41:12
Speaker 3: and and mecncell Abrini is like part of like development
41:15
Speaker 3: days and like long term development, and that's what it is.
41:18
Speaker 3: You know, he played only played forty seven games last year,
41:21
Speaker 3: forty eight, Like he's already played fourteen plays at a
41:24
Speaker 3: higher pace, plays more games per week in the NHL,
41:27
Speaker 3: and he has, you know, kind of slowed down in
41:30
Speaker 3: back to backs, three and four situations. So if you're
41:33
Speaker 3: gonna scratch him here and there on the road so
41:35
Speaker 3: the home fans can see him one hundred percent, I'm
41:37
Speaker 3: all for it.
41:38
Speaker 1: He's so aggressive, like he's so and he was so
41:41
Speaker 1: aggressive within the first couple of weeks of the season,
41:44
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, if he keeps up
41:46
Speaker 1: this pace, what's gonna happen around December with him?
41:49
Speaker 2: Really?
41:50
Speaker 1: And there are some folks who don't I don't know
41:52
Speaker 1: how in tune to hockey they are and how much
41:55
Speaker 1: they watch and stuff, and they're criticizing the moves and
41:58
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you really serious here? You I mean,
42:01
Speaker 1: it's it's two games in a row. It's not the
42:03
Speaker 1: end of the world here. And like I said, he
42:07
Speaker 1: was just he was going one hundred percent the first
42:09
Speaker 1: couple weeks of the season. I'm like, my gosh, they're
42:11
Speaker 1: gonna have to give this guy, this kid some rest here.
42:14
Speaker 1: He's not used to this.
42:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
42:16
Speaker 3: Basketball players have load management all the time, veterans making
42:20
Speaker 3: and I can't.
42:20
Speaker 1: Get into the six ers. I'm gonna get mad.
42:23
Speaker 3: But a nineteen year old kid like I scratched him
42:25
Speaker 3: for two out of eighty eighty two games, Like righteh,
42:27
Speaker 3: it's like like a few plays of an Eagles game.
42:30
Speaker 1: Of course he got scratched exactly exactly. All right, Well,
42:33
Speaker 1: moving on here, I want to dive into Morgan Frost here.
42:36
Speaker 1: Want to get into Morgan Frost and how you know,
42:38
Speaker 1: he's been scratched and he he just hasn't played well
42:42
Speaker 1: and it's been a real shame, quite frankly, to see
42:44
Speaker 1: him struggle. I mean, at this point in his career,
42:47
Speaker 1: what does Frost need to do moving forward once he
42:49
Speaker 1: gets back onto the ice in your opinion, because like
42:52
Speaker 1: I said, it's just it's been disappointing to see his
42:54
Speaker 1: play as of late and just kind of where he
42:57
Speaker 1: has at in his career right now. What are your
42:59
Speaker 1: thoughts on Morgan?
42:59
Speaker 3: For yeah, it was weird going into training camp not
43:04
Speaker 3: hearing much conversation about Morgan Frost because like going into
43:06
Speaker 3: training camp, but I was like, Oh, what what's Morgan
43:08
Speaker 3: Frost gonna be this year? How is he gonna do
43:10
Speaker 3: this year? I was like, all right, Frost has a
43:11
Speaker 3: chance with meets Goff, maybe we can see his skill now.
43:14
Speaker 3: And he has one goal, six points in fifteen games,
43:17
Speaker 3: and that goal was he was on his knees and
43:19
Speaker 3: it bounced off his shin pad in he'd He's had
43:22
Speaker 3: great chances here and there. He's been shooting the puck
43:24
Speaker 3: a decent amount. But I don't know, Like I just
43:27
Speaker 3: think he needs a change of scenery, whether that's a
43:30
Speaker 3: trade or just towards being like, all right, you had
43:33
Speaker 3: the healthy scratch out of the way, go out there
43:35
Speaker 3: without a leash, like, don't be afraid to make turnovers,
43:38
Speaker 3: play your game, and you know, see what you can do.
43:40
Speaker 3: Like I think at this point in his career, he's
43:43
Speaker 3: twenty five now going on twenty six in May. He's
43:46
Speaker 3: a forty point player pretty much like that's what he is.
43:49
Speaker 3: And it sucks because the Flyers have real no other
43:52
Speaker 3: centers Teuan Ratoria's aging Paling and Kate's and those guys
43:57
Speaker 3: aren't top six centers. So he's forced to play proudly
44:00
Speaker 3: above his head. So I think at this point, like
44:02
Speaker 3: a change of scenery trade would make the most sense,
44:05
Speaker 3: but you'd have to get a center back for him.
44:07
Speaker 3: So it's it's tough right now with Morgan Frost. And
44:10
Speaker 3: it's unfortunate because, yeah, he was a first round pick
44:12
Speaker 3: back in twenty seventeen, was some hype around him, and
44:15
Speaker 3: now seven years later, it's.
44:17
Speaker 1: Just, yeah, it's unfortunate. Yeah, honestly, I feel like he's
44:21
Speaker 1: been here forever too. I mean he's twenty five years old.
44:23
Speaker 1: I feel like he's thirty five here at this point
44:25
Speaker 1: that you know, as long as we've been talking about
44:28
Speaker 1: him and what his play has been on the ice.
44:31
Speaker 1: Hopefully Towards does say that, you know, just you know,
44:33
Speaker 1: just go out there, balls to the wall, see what
44:35
Speaker 1: you can do if if you turn puck over, turn
44:37
Speaker 1: the puck over. You know, I need we need to
44:40
Speaker 1: see more from him, But like you said, like how
44:43
Speaker 1: much more are we going to see from him with
44:44
Speaker 1: the talent that he has? Not too sure? But I
44:46
Speaker 1: mean that kind of leads us to the next topic here,
44:48
Speaker 1: which is consistency with this team. And I mean consistency
44:52
Speaker 1: is going to be key as this team moves forward.
44:55
Speaker 1: And I'm wondering, what are some of the under the radar,
44:58
Speaker 1: like offensive aspects of this Flyers team that we really
45:01
Speaker 1: need to keep our eyes on. Aspects of the offense
45:05
Speaker 1: that really may help with this consistent see that you've seen,
45:08
Speaker 1: whether it's over these past few games or or just
45:11
Speaker 1: the entire season as well, things that are kind of
45:13
Speaker 1: under the radar. What are your thoughts.
45:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it goes back to, you know, consistency
45:18
Speaker 3: in the lines there, Victoria Tippet Connectne was a great
45:21
Speaker 3: line last season at times. They're performing well again again
45:24
Speaker 3: right now. And it goes back to shooting the puck.
45:27
Speaker 3: Like like I said, they have forty three shots last game.
45:29
Speaker 3: It's their season high. And like last year, that's what
45:32
Speaker 3: they were doing. They were shooting the puck a lot.
45:33
Speaker 3: They were playing fun hockey no matter what, even if
45:36
Speaker 3: it was a loss. They were still getting their chances
45:38
Speaker 3: and whatnot. So it's back to that. It's getting the
45:41
Speaker 3: getting the breakouts, getting the entries, taking shots when you
45:44
Speaker 3: have the chance. Don't don't go, don't go one and done,
45:46
Speaker 3: don't go into the zone. Not take a shot and
45:49
Speaker 3: then set up because like they do that, and I
45:52
Speaker 3: liken it to a football team on like third and
45:54
Speaker 3: ten from the ten yard line, third and goal from
45:56
Speaker 3: ten yards analogy. Yeah, there's there's not a lot of
45:58
Speaker 3: room to work with. Flyers don't have enough skill to
46:01
Speaker 3: kind of make a play there, so it's just, you know,
46:04
Speaker 3: they kind of get stuck there. So you know, cycle
46:06
Speaker 3: get consistency with the lines nowhere your linemates are going
46:09
Speaker 3: to be and confidence. Ultimately, it's confidences. Got a three
46:13
Speaker 3: game points streak in Ottawa on Thursday and then a
46:15
Speaker 3: five game homestand because they can really get some momentum
46:18
Speaker 3: going there.
46:19
Speaker 1: They could They absolutely could the one the one defenseman. Though,
46:23
Speaker 1: I wanted to really talk about with you. I talked
46:25
Speaker 1: to our good friend of the show runs Broadstreet Hockey
46:28
Speaker 1: dot Com, Kelly Hankel talked to her a couple weeks
46:31
Speaker 1: ago about Jamie Drysdale and where we wanted to see
46:35
Speaker 1: his season go. And I have been talking about Jimmie
46:38
Speaker 1: Drysdale for a while now on this podcast whenever we
46:41
Speaker 1: talk about the Flyers, and I'm just it's just so
46:43
Speaker 1: disappointing that he's been placed on the ir here. I mean,
46:47
Speaker 1: he was He's one of those defensive aspects of this
46:50
Speaker 1: team I wanted to see take that bigger leap this season.
46:53
Speaker 1: And yet again another injury here, and I feel like
46:57
Speaker 1: it's just like we're all deflated with regard to Jamie
47:00
Speaker 1: Drysdale here. I don't know. We talked about the struggles
47:03
Speaker 1: with the defense and what they faced earlier on this season. Ryan,
47:06
Speaker 1: at the top of our discussion, what are your overall
47:09
Speaker 1: thoughts on where this team is at defensively?
47:11
Speaker 2: Now?
47:12
Speaker 1: You know, given the Drysdale is gonna be out for
47:14
Speaker 1: some time, what are your thoughts defensively here?
47:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, Drysdale's had a rough go of it this year
47:19
Speaker 3: and like just his whole development arc. Yeah, since being
47:22
Speaker 3: drafted in Anaheim. Anaheim was not a good team. It
47:25
Speaker 3: was a first round pick in twenty twenty and he
47:27
Speaker 3: played twenty four games that rookie season. He played you know,
47:30
Speaker 3: eighty one. The next one had some injury troubles, had
47:33
Speaker 3: some contract troubles in Anaheim before being traded to Philly.
47:37
Speaker 3: So like he's still twenty two, He's not gonna be
47:40
Speaker 3: twenty three till April, so he's still really young, still
47:42
Speaker 3: real notable defenseman. We saw what Bradshaw has been able
47:46
Speaker 3: to do with Travis Sandheim, rustmusrussa Lineen. Obviously, Drysdale's a
47:50
Speaker 3: different type of player, but I'm excited to see what
47:53
Speaker 3: Amil Andre can do. I've been very excited by him
47:55
Speaker 3: over the past few games. He's up on that top line.
47:58
Speaker 3: He gives me, give me some kind of change, shinges
48:00
Speaker 3: a little. Yes, It's very excited to see that. And
48:04
Speaker 3: I think ultimately with Drysdale here, this could be a
48:07
Speaker 3: blessing in disguise. Get him, get him off his legs
48:10
Speaker 3: for a bit, get him in the press box, get
48:11
Speaker 3: him to reset a bit, kind of like Mitchakov, and
48:14
Speaker 3: then hopefully, you know, with Sandheim, with York, with Andre,
48:18
Speaker 3: with Bristol Linen, Drysdale can you know, play third pair,
48:21
Speaker 3: play on the power play, and kind of just not
48:23
Speaker 3: play against tough competition so he can take more chances
48:26
Speaker 3: and do more of his Rover type game, and yeah,
48:29
Speaker 3: just just be very patient with him, and I think
48:32
Speaker 3: it's helpful. I think it's easier to be patient with
48:34
Speaker 3: him when you look over and see Cutter Gotier has
48:36
Speaker 3: zero goals through like yes, yes, So it's not like
48:40
Speaker 3: Gotier is going off and you're like, oh, how we
48:41
Speaker 3: traded this guy for Drysdale who heard again? But so
48:45
Speaker 3: just no patients on both sides.
48:46
Speaker 1: There, All right, sounds good, but it's interesting you mentioned
48:49
Speaker 1: Shang Gosta Spair. I was a huge Shan Gosta Speer fan.
48:52
Speaker 1: I know you were too, you love you liked Gasta Speer.
48:54
Speaker 1: I mean election night. I was at our congresswoman's like
48:58
Speaker 1: election night shindig thing. Here's a dude there wearing a
49:01
Speaker 1: Gasta Spare jersey and I'd like high fived him. I
49:03
Speaker 1: was like, this is great, Yes, it's great. I've got
49:07
Speaker 1: my Gasta Spare fiftieth anniversary jersey that I still wear.
49:10
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm wearing it for the rest of
49:12
Speaker 1: my life. I don't care. Yes, right, Well, before I
49:15
Speaker 1: let you go, buddy, I wanted to talk about one
49:18
Speaker 1: John Tortorella. I mean, there's always criticism and praise to
49:22
Speaker 1: go around when it comes to coaching in the NHL,
49:24
Speaker 1: as we know, I just want to get your thoughts
49:27
Speaker 1: on how John Tortorella has coached this team during the
49:31
Speaker 1: overall start of this twenty twenty four twenty twenty five season.
49:34
Speaker 1: And you know where he's taken some of these guys,
49:36
Speaker 1: whether it's from a developmental perspective, the chances that he's
49:39
Speaker 1: giving to some of these guys, again, the scratches that
49:42
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, how do you think he's coaching
49:44
Speaker 1: this team at this point here in mid November.
49:48
Speaker 3: I mean, it's John Torrello. So it's infuriating at times,
49:51
Speaker 3: it's annoying, but this is what the Flyers are signing
49:54
Speaker 3: signing up for, and this is what they're going with. Like,
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Speaker 3: he has a lot of a lot of trust in
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Speaker 3: that room with Brierra and Jonesy and then the trio
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Speaker 3: up top there scratching beach Goff, scratching Frost. This is
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Speaker 3: what he does. Like, this is what he does. But
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Speaker 3: the thing is, like in his past stops, the third
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Speaker 3: season has been big for him, Like he's taken a
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Speaker 3: step forward in those third third seasons. Obviously, this is
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Speaker 3: a different situation with the Flyers still rebuilding and not
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Speaker 3: quite trying to compete, But I love what I'm seeing
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Speaker 3: from connecting point per game Tippett, he's gonna get back
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Speaker 3: up there. He's he's developing well. Sandheim restall line and
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Speaker 3: like the players that you want to see develop long
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Speaker 3: term to stay on this team are developing well. And
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Speaker 3: you know, it's a matter of finding out, you know,
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Speaker 3: will Ferrabee stick around, will bring stick around, like will
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Speaker 3: Frost stick around?
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Speaker 2: Like?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about finding out which of those middle six
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Speaker 3: wingers you can maybe trade for a center, or which
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Speaker 3: of them you should stick around for the long haul
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Speaker 3: and maybe can be a piece of a hopefully championship
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Speaker 3: roster in three, four, five years.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still gonna be It's gonna be interesting seeing
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Speaker 1: where this Flyers team goes this season. And again, folks,
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Speaker 1: soop great, great, follow my friend. It was great talking
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Speaker 1: to you. Always love having you on to talk about
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Speaker 1: this Flyers team. Come back join us down the road.
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Speaker 1: I'd love to have you back. On my friend.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me on. Always a good time here.
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Speaker 3: Hopefully no, next time the Flyers have a winning street,
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Speaker 3: just have me back on it. I'd love always good
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Speaker 3: to talk about a winning team.
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