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Matt Walsh and His Creepy Views on Consent · Rachel Oates

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Ever since the beginning of time, teenage girls have been
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getting pregnant. All of them were supposed to
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have kids like that's. When I had kids, That's my
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point. OK, I'm worried that we have.
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Turned sexual assault into such a wide, broad category that it's
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losing its meaning. This is the worst.
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One. Yet I think this somehow manages
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to be more disturbing than, you know, books that are pushing
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transgenderism and bisexuality and all that kind of stuff.
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Those books are bad too, but don't get me wrong.
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But this one disturbs me on a deeper.
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Level that I used, racially insensitive humour, that I told
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inappropriate jokes, that I engaged in lots of offensive
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activities, all of that. Of course is true.
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To grown men who he allegedly lured into bed.
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And then had sex with but as a grown.
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Man, if you let another man lure you into bed and then you
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willingly with no resistance engage in sex acts with him,
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does that belong in the same category as the 12 year old kids
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who are raped by men twice their size?
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What a. Brat, this kid is.
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This kid is awful. I cannot imagine what my dad's
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reaction would have been. It would not have been pleasant,
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I can tell you. They also accused me of
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physically abusing our radio interns by tasing one of them as
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a joke. That's also true and, I submit,
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still funny in the sense that I forced them to do things they
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don't want to do. The major problem here is that
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the book explicitly sexualizes physical contact between family
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members, but the left is not satisfied.
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It's merely accused me of racism, terrorism, political
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extremism. Workplace violence.
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They're also absurdly claiming that I advocated child brides.
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So what I'm saying is that the problem is not per SE teenage
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pregnancy, it's unwed pregnancy that's the problem in society.
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It's only problematic when when when you are not married and you
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don't have the man there. In the past, teen pregnancy
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wasn't considered a problem because people got married
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younger. I've.
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Let me tell you something. I violate.
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My kids consent all the time. I do not apologise.
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I wouldn't apologise to you soulless parasites if I had a
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gun to my head. Hey everyone and welcome back to
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a new video. I hope you don't mind an audio
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only recording today, but I've got a busy busy week and this is
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the best I can do. I'm so sorry.
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Now Matt Walsh is someone that I haven't spoken about since I
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think the very first year on my channel and honestly I barely
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remember making that video now. I think he'd written some blog
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posts at the time about how women owe men respect for merely
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existing and that definition of respect was dodgy as hell and it
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was a typical women bow down to men because they're better than
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you sort of message. I have been considering coming
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back to him for years, but I just haven't gotten around to it
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for God knows what reason. But recently, I watched the
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video by Ashley Taylor covering Paula Morgan, and in the
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opening, she very briefly showed some screenshots of Matt Walsh
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being creepy. So I just knew I had to go and
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look this up for myself, and what I saw was shocking, so I
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decided to talk about it. Now, at least one of these
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videos is a little old. It's from about six years ago.
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However, the others are more recent.
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And yeah, there's just a lot to address here.
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Matt Walsh has some really concerning opinions around
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children and consent. Let's start with his video
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titled We Need to Reclaim Sexual Morality, which that title alone
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is a red flag, isn't it? So obviously, sexual abuse has
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been in the news quite a bit recently with all the things
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going on in Hollywood and other industries and then the Catholic
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Church. And now there is, you know, it
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seems like every other week there's another story.
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This time it's it's Asia Argento, the Italian model and
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actress who was one of the original.
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Me too. Crusaders and who now stands
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accused of sexual assault herself.
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So while this clip may be 6 years old, it's crazy that
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nothing has changed. It was literally just a few
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months back that I was talking about how so many massive
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celebrities and influences and Youtubers and people in general
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are still being accused of sexual assault, domestic
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violence and so on on a regular basis.
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The story that he's talking about here is of a woman who was
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assaulted by Harvey Weinstein and then went on to sleep with a
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17 year old boy when she was 37. I say sleep with in quotes
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because no, when they're a minor and you're an adult, it is rape.
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I think if anything this just shows how dangerous, not
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breaking the cycle of abuse it's.
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And she should face the legal penalties, because a crime is a
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crime. Now, let me tell you my concern.
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This is my concern. And I've talked about this
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before, but I, I want to go back though, because I think it's
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such an important concept and it's, it's, it's, it's, it's an
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issue that I, I just, I, I think we need to work out.
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This is what I'm worried about. I'm worried that we have turned
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sexual assault into such a wide, broad category that it's losing
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its meaning and in the process actual cases of rape and assault
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are trivialised, deprived of significance, because the word
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is used so often and and and often to describe things that
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really don't qualify. So I'm sure he'll give us some
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dodgy reasoning as to why here, but it seems like an odd segue
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to go from let's talk about a 37 year old adult sexually
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assaulting a 17 year old minor to.
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But it's not really rape, is it? Because yes, it is a child is
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unable to consent. And when you have a 17 year old
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with another 17 year old, maybe they are able to consent.
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That's fine. But when you have a 17 year old
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with an actual adult and there is such a vast age difference of
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20 years and you have the power dynamics at play where like
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essentially she was like an older powerful figure in the
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industry that he wanted to work in US like definitely not able
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to consent. Like that's just fact now.
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I understand different countries have different ages of consent
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in terms of law and legality. In the UK it's 16.
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In some American states it's 16/17/18.
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Sometimes with caveats and in some in some countries it's as I
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was 14. But even if the legal age of
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consent why this happened was 16 and it wasn't, that's generally
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meant for 16 year olds to be figuring out their sexuality
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with their peers. Other 16 year olds, 17 year olds
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and stuff. You know, it's not for adults 20
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years older than them to take advantage.
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That is predatory behaviour. And I think he's right to some
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extent, that our definitions of what sexual assault or rape is
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has absolutely changed and expanded over the years.
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But I only think that's a good thing because it's changed as
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our understanding of consent has changed.
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It wasn't until 1991 in the UK that marital rape became
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illegal. Before that, it was completely
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acceptable for a man to rape his wife.
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Somehow the minute you signed a marriage contract, your body
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wasn't yours anymore. But only if you're a woman.
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It's only in recent years in many countries the legal
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definition of rape has been changed to include the rape of
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men. Before that, legally, it wasn't
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possible to rape a man, which we know is nonsense.
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We've reviewed age of consent laws and what it means to give
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informed affirmative consent. These definitions have changed
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and it's only a good thing. When we talk about the sexual
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assault problem, there are, it seems like there are many
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different types of situations that get kind of lumped into it.
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It's one of the reasons why I don't like the, you know, me
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too. Once you start putting a slow,
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once you take an issue, a really, really serious issue
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like sexual assault, and you put a slogan on top of it.
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Me too. That's the slogan.
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Well then it just. It simplifies things way too
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much. I have to ask, Matt, is that the
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reason you don't like it, or is it because it was finally a
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situation where women all came together and supported each
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other and finally felt safe enough to speak out and share
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their own stories and experiences?
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The hashtag wasn't about oversimplifying or making it
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cool. It was about bringing something
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that had been hidden for decades and ran so deep in the system.
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It's about bringing it to the surface.
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It was about giving survivors a safe space to come together.
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Of course this didn't work in practise because people still re
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victimise them, but that was the intention.
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Meenakshi Gigi Durham wrote in her book Me Too.
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The impact of rape culture in the media that the media are in
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fact quite literally sites of sexual violence.
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For decades, sexual harassment and assault had been routinized
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and concealed in corporate media workplaces.
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Acts of rape have been committed in newsrooms, on film sets, in
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media executives, hotel rooms. The strategies used by many
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media corporations to seal and thereby enable serial sexual
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assault assaults show that sexual violence is systemic
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violence embedded in structures of workplaces and buttressed by
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other institutional mechanisms such as legal processes and
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human resource policies. In the wake of Hashtag Me Too,
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it has become increasingly apparent that these mechanisms
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and structures are deeply entrenched in a variety of
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social institutions and in most countries and cultures.
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The media industries are not unique, but they have awakened A
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realisation that workplaces harbour a rape culture.
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A culture that not only facilitates rape but perhaps
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most damningly, silences its survivors.
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Rape culture as a concept has become highly visible in the
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meeting movement. It is a hotly contested term and
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idea which refers basically to a complex of beliefs that
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encourages male sexual aggression and supports violence
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against women, leading to the acceptance of rape as a normal
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part of life, she goes on to write.
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As the second wave feminist scholar Susan Gryphon pointed
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out, the fact that rape is against the law should not be
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considered proof that rape is not in fact encouraged as part
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of our culture. The concept of rape culture as a
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framework has been validated by the Me Too hashtag and its
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aftermath. The millions of tweets and
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social media discourses swiftly, swiftly exposed the
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pervasiveness of sexual violence in most societies.
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In doing so, they engaged with rape culture in myriad ways, at
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once recognising, resisting, and reevaluating the concept from
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multiple perspectives. So, to disagree with Matt, I
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don't think the use of this #resulted in an
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oversimplification at all, but quite the opposite.
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It showed us just how complex and widespread and normal this
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problem was and continues to be to this day.
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And more than this, I think when a man who, to the best of my
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knowledge and public knowledge, has never personally been the
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victim of sexual assault, starts sitting there trying to tell
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other people that their sexual assault isn't as bad as another
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kind of sexual assault or this experience wasn't like real
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sexual assault, that becomes so damn problematic.
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Because different kinds of assaults and different
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experiences affect different people in different ways.
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And the important thing isn't to tell them how they feel or tell
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them that the crime committed against them wasn't as serious
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as another crime. The important thing is that we
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listen to victims and survivors about their experience and don't
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try and tell them how serious what happened to them was or how
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not serious it was. Or we don't tell them how to
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feel. You know, we don't belittle
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their experiences and their emotions about those
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experiences. Although they all get lumped
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into the same category if it if we do have to put them in
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categories, it seems like there are, broadly speaking, really
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two different categories. So in Hollywood, there are the
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stories of women being forcibly raped or threatened or
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threatened if they don't go along with some something.
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And, and, and there are the kind of stories you hear about Kevin
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Spacey, right, where he's going around groping and fondling
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people against their will. He's forcing himself on 14 year
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old kids and so forth. You have situations like with
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Larry Nasser where he molested hundreds of kids under the guise
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of performing medical procedures and that kind of thing.
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And then obviously you have the Catholic Church and the terrible
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stories of children being raped by priests.
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And all of these stories are provided they're true, of
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course, they're clear cut cases of rape and abuse.
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Nobody disputes them. OK, that's rape, abuse, assault.
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And the in all of those situations, if there was any
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justice in America, everybody involved, if they're found
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guilty, they'd all be going to prison forever.
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Even though that has that has only happened very rarely, you
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know, in these situations. But then you have this, this
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other category which gets thrown in and conflated with all the
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other ones I just mentioned. So here you have the cases in
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Hollywood where actresses willingly have sexual
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relationships with powerful men, sometimes for years.
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Asia Argento herself, I believe she was in a sexual relationship
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ongoing with Harvey Weinstein for like 5 years.
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She, she she kept going back and engaging in this, you know, in
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this stuff with him. And they do this for the sake of
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movie roles and so on and for more, you know, power and clout
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in the industry. And then years later, after
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getting what they want out of it, they claim that they were
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being assaulted the entire time. This actually makes me angry
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because it's just a fundamental misunderstanding of what sexual
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assault is. Matt doesn't seem to realise
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that grooming is absolutely a thing.
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Coercive control is absolutely a thing.
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Plenty of abusers and groomers and rapists make their victims
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think that they're in love with them or control them in other
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ways so they keep going back. That doesn't mean they're
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consenting. And just because abuse is
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ongoing and a person has no means to escape, perhaps because
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someone's threatening them violently or manipulating them
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emotionally or controlling them economically or having control
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over their career, they'll be forced into sexual acts they're
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unwilling to consent to but they feel they have to do it.
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This is still rape. Look at the allegations against
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Neil Gaiman. That's a perfect example of
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this. It's not lesser rape or less
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serious because it happened multiple times.
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It's not less serious because the women got career roles out
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of it when in reality they should have.
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That should have never been something they had to bargain
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with to begin with. It's not less serious just
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because Matt doesn't understand how grooming works.
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This actually makes me so damn angry.
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Rape and sexual assault is an inherently violent act, but it
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doesn't always look violent. It doesn't always mean using
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physical force. Sometimes it involves emotional
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manipulation, bribery, using subtle fear as a coercion
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tactic, but at the end of the day, if there's no consent then
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it is rape, End of story. The Catholic Church you have,
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you have some cases where like cases involving Cardinal
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Mccarrick, you hear about Cardinal Mccarrick and, and the
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controversy surrounding him. Now there are accusations that
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he molested children. So you know, that's in that
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category. But then but then a lot of the
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accusations you hear about Mccarrick and, and also with
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other, you know, some of these other things as well.
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These are in some cases, he's having sex with seminarians.
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These are grown men who he allegedly lured into bed and
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then had sex with but. As a grown.
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Man, if you let another man lure you into bed and then you
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willingly with no resistance engage in sex acts with him,
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does that belong in the same category as the 12 year old kids
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who are raped by men twice their size?
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I don't personally know about this case, but I will say if you
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have to use the word lure to describe how the sexual activity
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happened in the 1st place, then that suggests to me that yeah,
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they weren't consenting, they didn't want it, they had to be
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forced or convinced into it and therefore yes, it is rape.
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This goes beyond victim blaming and it is so damn dangerous.
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Matt Walsh is a perfect example of how ignorance and stupidity
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can be so damn harmful. And then you also have the
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accusations against age Argento where a guy at 17, legal age,
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almost every in almost every state in the union willingly has
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sex with this, you know, 100 LB Italian model making no effort
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to leave the room or leave the situation.
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Then he comes back, blackmails her, demands money for it and
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gets paid. And now he says he was
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traumatised by his willing participation in sex acts with a
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woman when he was a few months away from his 18th birthday.
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Does that belong in the same category as a woman or a child
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who gets pinned down and raped by a sex predator?
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Well, actually, yes, I would say that a 37 year old adult having
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sex with a 17 year old is a sex predator who is raping.
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Yes, I I would use those words and definitions.
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And yes, as I discussed in one of my most recent videos, it's
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perfectly normal for teenagers to have crushes on old adults.
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That is a part of growing up, but it is the adults
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responsibility to not take advantage of that and not
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sexually abuse a child. Because when there's an age gap
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that big and therefore a power imbalance that big, they are
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unable to give informed consent. And many of these kids don't
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know that what's happening to them is rape or assault at the
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time. It's not until later, when
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they've had time to mature and process it, that they realise.
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I spoke a lot in a recent video about Sonia Orchard's book
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Groomed, in which she tells her own story of being groomed and
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raped by a 26 year old man when she was just 15 and for years
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she didn't realise there was anything even wrong in their
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relationship. It wasn't until she was in her
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40s that she was like oh crap, like this was really bad.
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This was really messed up. However, she'd been living with
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having major trauma responses for years and just hadn't pieced
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together what the cause of it was.
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It been a it been affecting her emotionally and physically and
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her relationships without her even realising it.
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Matt Walsh is trying to invoke what Sonya refers to as this
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grey zone to to excuse adults predatory behaviour towards
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minors. Sonya writes in her book that
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the age at which children become adults is not clear cut.
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It's a gradual process which will vary between cultures and
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between individuals. Some individuals may never
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become fully independent and may remain on the lookout for and
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ready to attach to carers throughout their lives.
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What is clear though is that while a person is dependent that
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is needing care and resources from another in order to
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survive, they will be hyper alert to the presence of
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potential carers and ready to attach them if triggered with
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attachment behaviours. And this will be especially true
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if they are lacking stable adult attachment as she was as a
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teenager. Age of consent laws are
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inherently arbitrary, and yet drawing a line to protect young
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people is necessary. But what makes a sexual act
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damaging enough to be illegal is highly contested, and this
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applies especially to the question of age.
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When does a child stop being a child?
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When do they become capable of making such a monumental
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decision as consenting to sex with an adult?
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Was I less damaged by what happened to me in the final
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months of my relationship with S after I turned 16 than what took
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place in the first seven months? The grey zone doesn't do
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teenagers any favours, she writes, with societal attitudes
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often ending up at the extremes of either being puritanical or
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unconcerned and somewhat accepting.
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Both approaches leave girls woefully unprotected when they
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need protection the most. At the age of 15, a girl enters
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A5 year danger zone for sexual assault.
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Girls 15 to 19 years of age are victims of sexual assault at 9.3
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times the rate. As all people 15 years old and
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above, it's a statistic that should cause far greater alarm
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than it does. And I'd argue there's even a
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similar issue for young boys of this age as well.
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You know who are taught that it's cool to be with an older
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woman? You know it'll make them an
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alpha, a stud, and whatever slang the kids use these days.
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And yet those women who prey on teenage victim, and yet those
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older women who prey on teenage boys are still predators.
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These are young boys literally being socialised into being
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victims and it's not OK. The fact that the legal age of
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consent is so arbitrary is the issue here.
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Matt Walsh hears it's 14 here, it's 16 here, it's 18 here.
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And therefore any of that must be OK.
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Whereas I hear it's 14 here, 16 here, 18 here and whatever.
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And therefore all of those young ages and a little buffer zone
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afterwards, like they need protecting and grown adults of
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25 and above should absolutely be staying away from them and
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not being predatory towards them and allow kids time to figure
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out their sexuality with their peers at their own pace and not
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be creeped on by adults. I personally find Matt stands
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incredibly concerning because if he can justify, well, if 18 is
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OK, then 17 must be OK. And if it's 16 in some areas and
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that's OK, then like just how far is he going to go with that,
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really? And then you have cases on
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college campuses where we're told now you know, drunk sex is
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rape is rape. That's that's what we're told
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now. Because if you're drunk, you
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can't consent. So drunk sex is automatically
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rape. Again, this is just a
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misunderstanding. We're not told that.
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We're told that too drunk to consent is rape.
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If a person is drunk to the point of impairment, struggling
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to stand, struggling to speak, unable to advocate for
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themselves, then they cannot give informed consent to sexual
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activity. I find like a good rule of thumb
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if you're in that kind of situation is if you're unable to
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tell how drunk your partner is or you know you're unable to
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tell if they're able to consent, just don't do it.
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It's that simple. Wait until they sober up and if
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you 2 still want to, great, go for it and if they don't then
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you move on. No regrets, no issues, no risk
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of rape. The only person oversimplifying
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things here is Matt. Because of inappropriate
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language or conversations in a work environment where a man is
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accused of hitting on women or trying to initiate
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relationships, maybe unsuccessfully, or making rude
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comments. And all of these also get lumped
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in and are stuffed under the kind of Me Too umbrella.
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Yeah, because harassment is serious and the person should be
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able to do their job without facing it.
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How is that controversial? How is that confusing?
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Here's the problem. I think this is where this comes
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from. This is where the trouble comes.
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We have, as a culture, removed all moral boundaries from sex.
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We have we have discarded all notions of sexual morality
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except for except for consent. That is the one moral rule that
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we have, that that we have maintained when it comes to sex.
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And yeah, 'cause it's a pretty damn important one.
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Consent is the only moral rule that we still observe with sex.
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And so when an immoral sexual encounter occurs, even if it
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wasn't rape or assault, we have no language with which to
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describe it. I think there are many cases
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where a sexual, where, where there's some sort of sexual
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encounter and all we, we all instinctively recognise that it,
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that it was immoral, that there's something wrong with it.
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But because we've gotten rid of the whole idea of sexual
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morality, we just have no way to describe it.
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We don't know what to do with it.
24:18
And so we take the one sexual moral rule that we still have
24:23
and we apply it to that situation because it's all we've
24:26
got, even if it even if it's not appropriate in that case,
24:32
because we have no basis for condemning any sexual encounter
24:39
unless the sexual encounter was nonconsensual.
24:43
This is a nonsense word salad. Like what is even on about here
24:47
and what is an immoral sex act? Well we know what he probably
24:50
thinks it is, but isn't it crazy how in his mind like premarital
24:55
sex is more immoral than an adult raping a child?
24:59
That's absolutely wild. It just it sounds like he's
25:02
trying to do mental gymnastics to avoid calling a lack of
25:05
consent what it is, a lack of consent.
25:08
It's like, as long as there are consenting adults who choose to
25:12
do this thing, then it must be OK.
25:15
But the reality is that there's a lot of bad sex.
25:20
There's a lot of immoral sex, There's a lot of disordered,
25:23
gross, harmful sex that is nonetheless consensual.
25:28
All of the cases that I mentioned, all the cases I
25:33
mentioned, they're all immoral, bad, gross, harmful, but they're
25:40
not all rape. Yeah, they are.
25:42
All the examples he's given in this video, all the ones we've
25:45
looked at are absolutely rape. And I don't doubt he's going to
25:48
try and conflict it to something like, I don't know, gay sex or
25:51
polyamory or just premarital sex or whatever.
25:54
But if he's seriously going to try and conflate, for example,
25:57
230 year old women sleeping together as being the same and
26:00
as immoral and dangerous and harmful as a 37 year old adult
26:04
taking advantage of a 17 year old child that they work with,
26:08
or a boss harassing their employee or whatever like, then
26:11
it's not only stupid but incredibly offensive.
26:14
The only time that it's not consent, the only time when
26:17
willing participation is not consent is when there is
26:21
something that precludes the person from being able to
26:25
actually willingly consent or when their consent is coerced.
26:28
So if there are threats or something involved, then
26:31
obviously that's not consent. That's, that's not willing
26:33
participation. You're not willing.
26:35
It's, it's, it is, you know, when you're coerced into doing
26:39
something that's not willing participation.
26:41
Or if we're talking about someone who is at an age where
26:45
they don't possess the mental capacity to consent or to
26:51
understand what sex is and what the ramifications of it are.
26:54
So you mean like if someone's holding a job role over your
26:57
head? Or if someone is emotionally
27:00
manipulating you? Or if a person is drunk and
27:02
incapacitated? Or if a person is underage?
27:05
No. Indeed, a whole vast category of
27:09
consensual yet wrong sex. And we, we, we need to
27:17
acknowledge that and start talking about that rather than
27:23
trying to make everything into assault and rape.
27:32
Now consensual yet wrong sex. That includes a lot of different
27:37
things. This is a category where you
27:41
know you have sex. That's transactional sex where
27:46
it's not respecting of human dignity.
27:49
No respecting of human dignity. So you mean rape?
27:54
I don't think Matt realises that you can revoke consent at any
27:57
time. If you feel you're being treated
27:59
badly in the moment and you decide you don't want to do this
28:02
anymore and they carry on, that's rape because you have
28:05
revoked consent. I don't think anyone would be
28:09
genuinely treated as subhuman and still be consenting, no.
28:12
And I don't mean like role play or you've agreed that they're
28:15
going to say this or do this or what.
28:17
I mean like if you're actually treated subhuman, like I don't
28:22
think you're still going to be consenting to sex with them, are
28:23
you? Anyway, let's move on.
28:26
A few years later, Matt Walsh was back with his anti consent
28:30
rants. This time he's mad that there
28:31
are children's books teaching kids about consent.
28:35
And now I'll just say this. Teaching kids about consent is
28:37
huge. It is so damn important.
28:39
And it is not unlike Matt wants to say a sexual thing.
28:42
It is a bodily autonomy thing. Teaching them that they can say
28:46
no, that they don't need to do things they don't want to.
28:49
Teaching them that they never have to hug or kiss someone they
28:51
don't want to. Teaching them what bad touches
28:54
are so they can be aware of predators and tell trusted
28:56
adults about them. That is massively important in
28:59
both a child's development and just keeping them safe, right?
29:04
But Matt Walsh disagrees, and he's mad that there's a book
29:07
teaching kids to be safe. We're going to read this whole
29:10
thing. It's pretty short and I'll read
29:12
the whole thing and then I'll offer my review.
29:14
So let's get into it. This is called C is for consent
29:20
and this is it says ages. This is for ages 0 and plus.
29:23
So if you have a 0 year old child, they could they could
29:27
read this and not from there. I mean, you know, it's a board
29:29
book, it's short. So this is really for kids,
29:32
probably, you know, 2345 years old.
29:34
Well, yeah, because I don't think your kid is ever too young
29:37
for safeguarding to start right. All right, it says it's time for
29:42
a party with family and friends. And you see of course there
29:46
we've got the interracial gay couple, we've got the
29:50
interracial disabled couple, 11 member of the couples disabled.
29:53
You got to get all the representation there.
29:55
And that's I don't see any furries.
29:59
I don't see anyone who's apparently transsexual or even
30:02
transgender or pansexual. So that's that's a problem, but.
30:06
And how would you know, Matt? Because trans people and
30:09
pansexual people look just like everyone else.
30:13
And of course he's mad that people of different races exist.
30:15
It's giving me slightly racist pull from Paul and Morgan, you
30:19
know? But it's like, I watch this
30:20
clip. I'm like, tell me all your
30:22
friends are straights ISM white without telling me all your
30:25
friends are straights ISM white. You know, like, oh God, his
30:28
parties must be boring. We'll keep going.
30:30
Grandma wants a hug, but Finn isn't in the mood.
30:34
That's OK, says Dad. You don't have to give hugs if
30:37
you don't want to. Grandpa leans down to kiss Finn.
30:41
Mom says please ask for consent first.
30:45
Grandpa asks may I kiss you on the cheek?
30:48
Finn replies hmm, yes you may. Auntie and Uncle want Finn to
30:54
sit with them. Come sit on my lap.
30:56
No, you have to sit on my lap. Finn says no thank you.
31:00
My parents say I don't have to sit on anyone's lap if I don't
31:02
feel like it. Yeah, I see absolutely no issues
31:05
with this book. This is great.
31:07
What a. Brat, this kid is.
31:09
And sorry, like because he doesn't want random people
31:11
touching him. No.
31:14
Wow. Oh God, this is absolutely
31:15
disgusting from Matt. Like he feels like the kind of
31:18
man who would say to a random woman, give me a hug, go on,
31:21
just give me a hug. No, why won't you hug me, you
31:23
bitch? Like I'm getting the same vibes
31:25
here. He clearly doesn't respect other
31:27
people's boundaries. Finn is happy to see his best
31:30
friend Ru. He asks May I hold your hand?
31:33
It is OK for you to say no. Rue.
31:36
Replies yes, you may hold my hand, thank you for asking 1st.
31:40
And that's it. That's the end of the whole
31:44
story. OK Then there are discussion
31:46
questions at the end which we won't get into.
31:48
So that that actually is, somewhat surprisingly, this is
31:52
the worst one yet. I think this somehow manages to
31:55
be more disturbing than, you know, books that are pushing
31:59
transgenderism and bisexuality and all that kind of stuff.
32:02
Those books are bad too, but don't get me wrong.
32:04
But this one disturbs me on a deeper level.
32:09
Somehow it doesn't surprise me that the man who in the past has
32:12
been talking about how it's not really rape to sleep with minors
32:16
is somehow disturbed by teaching kids about bodily autonomy and
32:20
consent. You know, the only disturbing
32:23
thing here is Matt's reaction. Everyone in this book was polite
32:26
and friendly and kind and respectful, and I love that
32:29
there were no issues here with the book.
32:31
The issues are with Matt's response.
32:34
This kid is awful. I mean, this is what happens
32:38
when you have permissive hippie parents.
32:40
I I would not. I can't imagine if I was a
32:44
little kid, if I was like 6 years old and my grandmother
32:46
came to visit and said hey, give me a hug.
32:49
And I said no, I don't feel like it, Granny.
32:51
Yeah, God forbid a kid have boundaries.
32:54
That's not awful, that's just human.
32:56
And there's more than one way to show affection towards someone,
32:59
and it's important to teach kids that they get to decide how they
33:02
do it. I said no, I don't feel like it,
33:04
Granny. I cannot imagine what my dad's
33:06
reaction would have been. It would not have been pleasant,
33:09
I can tell you. Yeah see this is terrifying.
33:12
Slapping a kid because he doesn't want to be touched.
33:14
Like are you? Are you trying to set your kid
33:16
up to be abused? Because that is what could very
33:18
easily happen here. Not to mention that the slap in
33:21
the 1st place is abusive as hell.
33:22
Like this whole video is so damn terrifying and it just gets
33:25
worse. My reaction with my own kids
33:28
wouldn't be pleasant. And that's what you want?
33:30
Yes, I tell them. I guess I violate.
33:32
I've let me tell you something, I violate my kids consent all
33:37
the time in the sense that I force them to do things they
33:40
don't want to do, sit out and study.
33:43
That's much of the day, in fact. I'm telling you, this man is a
33:46
natural monster. I don't need to tell you why
33:49
this is bad, right? But this is how you end up with
33:52
a if your kids not talking to you when they're adults or B,
33:56
your kids growing up to abuse more kids who were going to
33:58
abuse more kids and so on. And the cycle of abuse will
34:01
continue. Now, he may be exaggerating here
34:04
to, you know, create some controversy or whatever, because
34:07
that's what he does. But there's a huge difference
34:10
between, oh, no, you don't want to do the dishes, but it's your
34:14
responsibility and you have to do it to learn how to do this
34:17
stuff. And Oh no, you don't want your
34:20
personal space being invaded. Screw it, you need to let an
34:24
adult invade your personal space and touch you without consent or
34:27
I'll hit you. And this is teaching you to be a
34:29
people pleaser and, you know, do all this despite your
34:32
discomfort. And this is going to teach you
34:34
how to not say no to predators. But the major problem here is
34:40
that the book explicitly sexualizes physical contact
34:44
between family members. No, it doesn't.
34:47
Did we even read the same book? It's like Matt Walsh has like no
34:53
reading comprehension skills. What the hell does sexual
34:56
contact look like to you, Matt? And if it's this, then I pity
35:00
your wife even more than I already did.
35:02
This book has absolutely nothing to do with sexual contact.
35:06
It is pure. It is purely about physical
35:08
touch, physical contact, and teaching kids that their body is
35:12
their own and it's up to them who they let in that space.
35:16
I did cut out a video here when Matt, like just for time, when
35:20
Matt said he tells his kids that they have to hug family members
35:22
because it's polite. And sadly, we've seen abusers
35:25
take advantage of this, like, you know, telling kids that they
35:28
have to let themselves be touched because it's the polite
35:31
thing to do and so on. Like these teachings literally
35:33
set kids up to be hurt and abused by people, but if you
35:37
teach a kid that any touch needs to be the choice of everyone
35:39
involved, then you're actually giving them the tools to protect
35:42
themselves both in regular and potentially predatory
35:45
situations. Like, but honestly, I see
35:48
nothing about this book that was sexualizing these interactions.
35:52
Consent is not just a sexual thing.
35:55
It's about setting your own boundaries and respecting other
35:57
people's boundaries. If I invite a friend over to my
36:00
house and we talk about a book and I say, oh, would you like to
36:02
borrow this book? I'm consenting for them to take
36:05
it. If they come up to my house and
36:07
take one of my books without answering, without asking, I'm
36:10
not consenting to that. And that is theft.
36:13
Does Matt Walsh want to say that by giving that example?
36:15
I'm sexualizing books now? The definition of consent,
36:20
according to Chanel contos, is simply Consent means permission
36:23
for something to happen legally. Consent means to agree to
36:28
something with choice. Consent can be a simplest
36:30
empathy. Consent is being present, being
36:34
free, being able to have a say. Consent is an emotion.
36:38
Consent is something that can be perceived and understood.
36:41
Consent is a mental task. Consent is a feeling.
36:44
Mean this author is he? He is well, he well, it's who is
36:48
it? Eleanor Morrison.
36:49
He his, her, whoever's they're, they're taking their own.
36:53
I don't want to misgender them. Whoever it is, they're taking
36:56
their own complex and projecting it onto everyone else.
37:00
I don't know what's going on with you that you view a hug
37:02
from an aunt or a a grandfather as potentially sexual in nature,
37:06
but it's something you should be talking to a therapist about.
37:08
You don't write it into a children's book.
37:10
Again, the only one sexualizing anything here is Matt.
37:14
The level of projection here is completely wild.
37:16
Let's even. Let's take the.
37:17
Family dynamic out of it for a second, just just for a moment,
37:20
because I don't want to dwell on that.
37:21
It's too disturbing. And let's pretend that we're
37:25
talking about just some dude and a girl and they're not related.
37:31
Even in that context, the idea that verbal consent should
37:36
precede every physical interaction is asinine.
37:41
I mean, my wife would look at me like a maniac if we were walking
37:45
somewhere down the sidewalk or something.
37:48
And I said excuse me. May I have consent to hold your
37:52
hand requesting permission to initiate physical interaction.
37:56
Permission granted. You may maintain physical
38:00
contact for 75 seconds. Thank you, ma'am.
38:02
That's what they He's being so damn obtuse here because no one
38:06
is saying that it has to be like that for every single
38:08
interaction, every single time. Usually as you get to know
38:11
someone, you can find ways to like kind of subtly ask the
38:14
consent without verbalising it. But sometimes when it's someone
38:18
new or it's a stranger, like you do want to verbalise it.
38:21
So like, say, when I meet fans in public, I always say to them
38:23
like, oh, you can pull with a hug and some say yes and some
38:26
say no and you respect their answer.
38:28
And I think because they're strangers to me, it's important
38:30
to ask. And like, you know, get that
38:32
verbal confirmation before you, you go in for a hug and touch
38:35
someone. But often with my friends who
38:37
I've known for years, we just sort of signal to each other for
38:40
a hug with like, you know, like raise your arms when you see
38:41
them. And if you want to hug, you
38:43
reciprocate. And you, you go in and you, you
38:45
have a great hug. And sometimes if you don't want
38:47
to hug, like if I've been travelling and I'm feeling a bit
38:49
gross, I'll be like, oh, not right now.
38:50
I'm a bit, you know, warm and gross, like, and then, and then
38:54
you, you don't hug. That's still asking for consent
38:59
and communicating and communicating consent.
39:02
And it's just Oh no one is saying you have to verbally and
39:06
explicitly ask for consent with every interaction.
39:09
But it is important to establish boundaries with people and
39:12
listen to them when they communicate one with you and you
39:15
find ways to check in on people. Even with my dog Kyra, there are
39:19
ways to practise communicating consent, right?
39:21
So if I put my hand out to her and let her come to me, that's a
39:24
way of me asking if she wants snuggles and her way of
39:27
consenting to them. Sometimes I go in, I give her a
39:29
kiss on the cheek and then I pull back.
39:31
And if she's enjoying the physical contact and those
39:33
kisses, then she'll give me a little kiss back.
39:35
And then I go in for another kiss and she gives me one.
39:37
And it's like, you know, we kiss each other on the cheek and it's
39:40
like reciprocal. And that's giving consent.
39:43
If she's not into it, then she'll turn her head away from
39:45
me and I know to back up and give her space and not get in
39:49
her face. You know what I mean?
39:51
These are all non verbal ways of communicating consent.
39:56
And again, let me clarify before Matt gets creepy.
39:59
These are non sexual boundaries, non sexual physical contact, non
40:06
sexual consent issues. Don't sexualize my dog.
40:09
Yeah. So anyway, that's all stupid.
40:12
Now if this wasn't bad enough, there's another audio only clip
40:15
of him which has been posted online several times talking
40:17
about how it's OK to impregnate 616 year old girls and have sex
40:21
with them, but the way to get around it is if you marry them
40:25
afterwards. He claims this is from a radio
40:27
show he did in Delaware. I think he was back in like 2009
40:31
ish. Yeah, have a listen.
40:34
None it is not. In fact, ever since the
40:37
beginning of time, teenage girls have been getting pregnant.
40:41
It used to be more common the the peak ever since they started
40:44
keeping records of these things, which they only started doing
40:46
recently, like in the 20th century.
40:48
But ever since they started keeping records in 1957 was the
40:53
peak for teenage pregnancy 1957. Yeah, you know what happened to
40:58
those pregnant teenagers. A lot of the time, a lot of them
41:01
died. Childbirth.
41:03
The body of a teenager is not designed for pregnancy and
41:06
childbirth. Just because they may start
41:08
ovulating, that does not mean that body is strong enough or
41:11
developed enough to carry a pregnancy, and it definitely
41:14
does not mean she's mature enough to become a parent.
41:17
All of them were supposed to have kids like that's.
41:19
When I had kids, that's my point.
41:21
OK, so to all of a sudden act like this phenomenon of girls
41:25
getting pregnant at that, at at a young age that we consider
41:27
young 16 or 17, to act like it's a new thing is ridiculous.
41:31
It's always been that way. Yeah, but nowadays we're aware
41:34
of the harm it causes to both mother and baby, and so we want
41:37
to prevent it from happening. No one is saying it's never
41:39
happened before, but we are saying we've come.
41:42
But we are saying we've become more aware of how harmful it is
41:45
of the last 20-30 years or so. Even biologically, and this is
41:50
me just stating I'm just right now, I'm going to start by just
41:53
stating facts. So fact number one, it's not a
41:56
new phenomenon. Fact #2 in fact, it's a
41:58
phenomenon that was more common earlier in history and for, you
42:02
know, first six to 10,000 years of human existence, it was a
42:05
normal thing. Fact. 3 girls between the ages
42:09
of like 17 and 24 is when they're technically most
42:13
fertile. Yeah, OK.
42:15
That's biological. Yeah, this is absolutely not
42:17
true. 17 year olds, Like absolutely not at all.
42:20
And again, this is something I also spoke about in a recent
42:22
video. So let me quote Sonia Orchard's
42:25
book to you. Again, this is a little long,
42:26
but I think it's important for those fond of evoking biology in
42:30
these discussions. The justification for many men's
42:33
longing for young female virgins is that a female's youth is a
42:36
sign of high fertility. It's an argument that's been
42:38
used for decades. Unfortunately, however, when
42:41
we're talking about teenagers, it's simply untrue.
42:43
A woman's fertility peaks around her early to mid 20s.
42:47
When a girl first gets her period, she might not even be
42:49
fertile. She may remain infertile or with
42:52
low fertility for a year or two before her fertility slowly
42:55
climbs. So if a male were really
42:57
attracted to the most fertile partner, it should be a woman in
43:00
her early to mid 20s, not one in her teens.
43:04
Secondly, if we're talking about biological drives to procreate,
43:07
there's a lot more involved in reproduction than simply finding
43:10
a fertile heterosexual partner, especially when it comes to
43:13
offspring who requires so much looking after.
43:17
To ensure the survival of your genes, you need to make sure not
43:21
just that you have offspring, but the but that your offspring
43:24
survive to maturity. Giving how tough it is to raise
43:27
humans, the ideal reproductive partner will be someone not just
43:30
fertile but also good at nurturing and providing.
43:33
Again, this rules out teenagers, she goes on to write.
43:38
In studies from around the world, from North America to
43:41
tribal societies, it's been found that girls in their early
43:44
or mid teens statistically make poorer mothers than fully
43:48
matured women and are much more likely to be neglectful,
43:52
abandoning or even infanticidal mothers.
43:55
Babies born to teenage mothers are also at greater risk of
43:57
preterm birth, low birth weight, still birth, and neonatal death.
44:02
The list of disadvantages continues So So sexual
44:06
attractiveness really is related to fertility and the male drive
44:09
to impregnate fertile females. Then teenage girls should be a
44:13
pretty unattractive option, certainly less attractive than a
44:17
mature woman. Interestingly, that's exactly
44:20
what you see among chimps and in all other primates for which
44:24
there is information on male preference, males always prefer
44:29
mature adult females over fertile immature females.
44:33
So why don't we see this in humans?
44:35
Why? Why are humans like a lot of
44:39
these like red pill men and right wingers and whatever they
44:42
often like to like invoke evolutionary biology and be
44:45
like, oh, you know, in the past we were, we were made for this.
44:49
And so I'm like, well, if you look at like what evolutionism
44:53
to other species, they're pretty damn civilised compared to you
44:55
guys. So what's your problem?
44:57
But what happened recently? And this is the fourth fact
45:01
recently in the last 30 years or so, we decided that that's way
45:06
too young to start a family. Why?
45:09
And because now worst. Rates would probably go up and
45:12
once you're that young, you can't really make sure that you
45:14
know. Girls.
45:15
No, No, no, no, no. Girls were getting married
45:18
early, and marriages were lasting longer.
45:20
Yeah, marriages were lasting longer, but that doesn't mean
45:22
happy marriages were lasting longer or that the marriages
45:25
themselves were happier. They were lasting longer because
45:28
for one thing, women in the UK couldn't have their own bank
45:30
accounts before 1975 except in a few very rare circumstances if a
45:35
husband or father signed off on it.
45:37
And even then there were caveats.
45:39
It wasn't until 1974 in America. And two, they're also lasting
45:43
longer because the Divorce Reform Act wasn't introduced in
45:46
the UK until 1969 and no fault divorce wasn't brought in in
45:50
America until around 19691969 or 1970, depending on the state.
45:55
So yeah, in the past, people married teenagers, impregnated
45:58
them, and those girls and women were legally unable to leave
46:01
that marriage or have any resources of their own.
46:03
So of course those marriages lasted longer.
46:06
But surely it tells you something that when people get
46:09
the chance to leave and they immediately do, does that not
46:12
tell you that they weren't happy in those situations in the first
46:15
place? So what I'm saying is that the
46:17
problem it is not per SE teenage pregnancy, it's unwed pregnancy.
46:23
That's the problem in society. It's only problematic when,
46:28
when, when you are not married and you don't have the man there
46:31
to help you take care of the kids because he's a coward.
46:34
And the reason why we have that now are for two reasons.
46:37
Because we have, we have in, in current society we have, we live
46:41
in the age of extended adolescence.
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I kind of wish the clip didn't cut off here, but that's the
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longest one I could find online. But to summarise, Matt Walsh
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thinks we should be actively impregnating and marrying
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teenagers. See my entire recent video about
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Kendra and her grooming situation as to why this is a
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terrible, terrible, terrible idea.
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I'll leave it LinkedIn, the resource document if you want to
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go check it out. Matt responded to this audio
47:04
clip being released along with many others and he called it a
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hippies. He said that it was OK that he
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said all of these things because he also mocked black people and
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physically abused people he worked with at the time and
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today it's still funny so we shouldn't be mad at him.
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I don't know how the hell he thinks this is any sort of
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defence, but I swear the more I hear from this man, the less
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intelligent I realise he is. And I hold her eyes for the low
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video quality here because I had issues downloading this one.
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So I worked at the station until I was 25 for a couple of years.
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During that period I hosted a morning show where we often did
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flout the rules of political correctness, as was the custom
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on morning radio at the time. In their hit piece, Media
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Matters presents evidence that I used racially insensitive
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humour, that I told inappropriate jokes, that I
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engaged in lots of offensive activities, all of that.
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Of course is true. They also accused me of
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physically abusing our radio interns by tasing one of them as
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a joke. That's also true, and I submit,
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still funny. But there's more.
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Media Matters reveals that I once challenged the intern to
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lick the inside of a dumpster, which again, is true.
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But the part they leave out is that afterwards we call the
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doctor on the air to find out. What sort of diseases?
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He might have picked up from the stunt, and from what I recall,
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the answer was many. Also, again, as Media Matters
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exposes like any other hacky morning show, at the time we did
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prank calls, and some of the prank calls were offensive by
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current standards. Sometimes on a call I would
48:47
imitate a black man. On one occasion, I attempted to
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portray a man with split personalities, one of whom was
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black and the other white. It was very high concept sort of
48:57
work, and it it worked better on paper than it did in execution,
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I can tell you. But not all of our prank calls
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were racially charged. Only most of them were.
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But the left is not satisfied to merely accuse me of racism,
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terrorism, political extremism, workplace violence.
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They're also absurdly claiming that I advocated child brides,
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and for that bit of defamation, they are using another segment
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from over a decade ago where we discussed the issue of teen
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pregnancy, and I pointed out that in the past, teen pregnancy
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wasn't considered a problem because people got married
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younger. I was attempting to highlight,
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in an admittedly awkward and rambling way in my early 20s,
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riffing off the top of my head during a rock morning show to an
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audience of almost no one at the time.
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The fact that unwed pregnancy is a core problem that plagues our
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society, and it's still a problem even when the unwed
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pregnant person is an adult. So no matter the age, I argued
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at the time, pregnancies become a crisis when they happen
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outside of marriage, without a stable family structure in place
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to care for the child. You weren't talking about
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adults, were you, Matt? You were literally talking about
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teenagers. You provided the context.
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You gave the context. At its core, it's a rather
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uncontroversial historical observation, but the left has
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latched on to this point from years ago and tried to use it to
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flip the groomer label around on me, accusing me of quote
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promoting teen pregnancy and even child rape, as some of the
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libellous statements would have it.
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Yeah, I know that people don't need to accuse him of anything.
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His own words tell you everything you need to know.
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All I've done here is play his words back to you and refute
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them. Like I'll let you make up your
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mind about what they mean in regards to Matt Walsh, but he's
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saying them himself. I'm not putting words in his
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mouth. So here's my official answer.
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For the record, kiss my ass. I do not apologise.
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In fact, by all rights you sick freaks should be the ones
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apologising to me for lying and defaming me and doing it all
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because I'm trying to prevent you from sexually mutilating
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children. You damned monsters, you child
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abusing psychopaths. I wouldn't apologise to you
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soulless parasites if I had a gun to my head.
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Instead I'd rather just tell you all to piss off.
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I apologise for nothing. I concede nothing.
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I will never surrender even a single inch of ground to a
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pitchfork mob of degenerate morons.
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Wow, Matt, what a mature response.
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Like he just, he really doesn't care who he hurts, does he?
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And I'm not entirely sure what he means by his critics.
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Sex, sexually mutilating children.
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I think he's referring to trans teenagers getting like, you
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know, gender affirming care therapy, sort of hormone
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blockers and things like that. But he's kind of forgetting that
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there are a lot of people, especially on his side of
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things, who are also and actually mutilating children.
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And now I'm personally a big advocate against practises like
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female genital mutilation. And I do a lot of fundraising
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for charities like Forward who are actively fighting to prevent
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FGM. They are actively fighting to
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prevent child marriage. They are actively fighting
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against violence against women and children.
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And they are LinkedIn, the source document as well.
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If you want to check out the work they do, it's amazing and
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you can donate to them. They're wonderful.
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I've never seen Matt Walsh do any of that.
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Like I've never seen him actually fight against the
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mutilation of children as young as four years old who are having
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their genitals sliced and cut away in unsanitary conditions.
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Like I've never seen him advocate against anything like
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that. Instead I just hear him brag
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about him violating his kids consent.
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So if you look at his content and mine, for example, like
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who's really helping and harming children here?
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You know, the secret they never say out loud is that nobody is
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truly cancelled unless they consent to it and they willingly
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play their assigned roles? Well, I do not consent.
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I'm sorry, did did you just say consent?
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Matt? Did you?
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Did you just sexualize cancel culture?
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That's disgusting. How dare you.
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OK, anyway, on that silly little note, that is where I'm going to
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end today's video. I know I was covering some older
53:24
stuff here, but all of it was new to me.
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And sometimes I think it's important to remind ourselves
53:28
that stuff like this is still out there and being said and
53:31
that we can still learn from it and call people like Matt Walsh
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out for their harmful beliefs. And that's kind of where I want
53:37
to end things today. Thank you so much for watching
53:39
and listening today. Whether you are watching on
53:42
YouTube or listen to the audio on Spotify, I appreciate you
53:45
guys so much. Thank you.
53:47
If you want to go follow me on Instagram, you can.
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I am at Rachel Oates with a 0 instead of an O and, and I'm in
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the middle of posting really, really cool photos over there
53:57
that I took at Tramlins Festival in Sheffield.
54:00
So lots of really cool bands and like music photography and some
54:03
comedians and all sorts of fun stuff.
54:05
And I've also got some really cool stuff that I'm doing this
54:07
week that I've been posting about, so you can go see that.
54:11
I also have TikTok where I'm posting short clips, like my
54:13
second channel. I've got my book coming out
54:15
really, really soon. I've just finished editing the
54:17
audio book last night and I'm actually feeling good about it
54:21
for once. It's taken like a year for me to
54:22
get to a place where I feel good.
54:24
But yeah, How you doing, Kyra? You've got something you want to
54:28
say. You hang out at the Crumble
54:31
Beauty for a snack? Yeah.
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Oh, I wish you guys good. See how cute she is?
54:34
She's beautiful, aren't you? You're beautiful.
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Anyway, thank you for listening. Thank you so much for all your
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time and attention today. I appreciate your help a lot.
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And I'll see you again soon. You saying goodbye?
54:46
Are you saying goodbye? All right, Bye everyone.