Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / The UK Inquiry Into Grooming Gangs: Whitney, Fiona And Michelle Tell Their Stories (6/22/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the program. In
- 0:03this episode, we're going to pick up where we left
- 0:05off with the inquiry from the UK about the grooming
- 0:09gangs Fiona. Fiona grew up in a highly abusive household,
- 0:16marked by domestic violence, severe emotional abuse, and repeated suicide
- 0:21attempts by her mother, which Fiona witnessed. Despite exceptional academic ability,
- 0:27she developed serious mental health difficulties, self harm behaviors, and
- 0:31suicidal ideation from a young age. After escalating abuse and
- 0:36fell disclosures, Fiona entered the care at the age of thirteen.
- 0:41She was placed in a children's home that had already
- 0:43been identified as high risk for sexual exploitation in a
- 0:47television documentary prior to her arrival. Inadequate supervision meant she
- 0:53went missing repeatedly. At thirteen, she was groomed by adult
- 0:56Pakistani men whom she estimates were aged between twenty four
- 1:01and forty five. The grooming began with affection and alcohol,
- 1:06quickly progressing to rape, drug dependency threats, and trafficking. Care
- 1:12staff negligence was extreme. Abusers would sit in cars outside
- 1:16waiting for the girls, openly converse with the staff, and
- 1:19even phone the home to inquire about them. One care
- 1:23worker told Fiona's mother that her boss had described recording
- 1:27the men's car registration plates as above her pay grade,
- 1:31warning that she would lose her job if she did so.
- 1:34Fiona believes the staff were aware of what was happening,
- 1:37but felt powerless to stop it, rather than being actively complicit. Nevertheless,
- 1:43the children's home received five thousand pounds per week to
- 1:46care for her and failed miserably. Fiona suspects the management
- 1:51avoided proper investigation for fear of being labeled racist. Only
- 1:57the police took the formal action, issuing harboring no to
- 2:00the men official warnings stating that they had no permission
- 2:04to associate with, contact, or house a vulnerable child. However,
- 2:09no further action followed. When Fiona's mother called the police
- 2:13to report her daughter missing and mentioned the history of
- 2:15abuse by Asian men, the call handler told her, you
- 2:18can't describe them as Asian men because that's racist. You
- 2:22should just be glad your child is being taught a
- 2:24different culture. On one occasion, a police officer returned Fiona
- 2:29to the house where the abuse was occurring and told
- 2:32the men to have fun with her. On another occasion,
- 2:35police instructed the abusers that if they could persuade Fiona
- 2:39to sign herself out of care, the police would stop
- 2:42bothering them. The gang then tried to convince her to
- 2:45do so, intending to traffick her to Kashmir. She was
- 2:50only prevented from leaving the country because she did not
- 2:52have a passport. Between two thousand and eight and twenty twelve,
- 2:56Fiona was repeatedly raped by multiple men connected to organize
- 3:01grooming networks. She was often kept in a house known
- 3:04as a party house, where between ten and twenty men
- 3:08would attend at one time. On one occasion, she was
- 3:11encouraged to bring her friends because the owner had relatives
- 3:14visiting from Birmingham to celebrate ID and expected girls to
- 3:18be there. Within the house, the girls were routinely referred
- 3:22to as white slags, while the men wanted Pakistani girls
- 3:26kept pure for marriage. The gang's reportedly discussed fears that
- 3:32the English Defense League would arrive armed, so they kept
- 3:36baseball bats for protection. They also allegedly spoke of attending
- 3:40EDL demonstrations with weapons. Fiona was not only trafficked and
- 3:45raped across multiple cities in the UK, but was also
- 3:48forced two traffic drugs. Drugs, intimidation, and violence were used
- 3:54to control her. She was made to clean up the
- 3:57knives from the scene of two fatal stabbings. She was
- 4:00present during a shootout. Her abusers bragged to her that
- 4:04they had hidden dead bodies in certain locations. A few
- 4:07days later, Fiona recalls the news reporting on a body
- 4:10being recovered from the same location that the abusers had
- 4:13disclosed to her. As a result, threats of violence carried
- 4:17an enormous weight. At fourteen, Fiona was abused by a
- 4:22man known as Rambo. He had entered England illegally in
- 4:26the back of a lory previously castrated in Pakistan as
- 4:30punishment for child abuse. He had then fled to the Philippines,
- 4:34where he allegedly attacked multiple women and children with a
- 4:37large knife, the origin of his nickname. Rambo was locked
- 4:41in a room with two girls and subjected them to
- 4:44extreme sexual torture. The case illustrated that in some instances,
- 4:49the sexual abuse of children was driven more by humiliation
- 4:52and control than sexual gratification. At fifteen, Fiona became pregnant
- 4:58while in a mixed care home. Her son was later
- 5:02removed and adopted due to the ongoing exploitation risk. Yet
- 5:06Fiona herself was left in the same dangerous environment. The
- 5:10abuse continued into her adulthood. It only stopped when she
- 5:13turned eighteen, leaving her with profound physical and psychological trauma,
- 5:18including PTSD, substance dependency, and long term health damage. Fiona
- 5:24states that the greatest harm came not only from the abusers,
- 5:28but from the institutional disbelief, neglect, and punishment that actively
- 5:33enabled the ongoing exploitation. In total, she estimates that she
- 5:38was abused by fifty and one hundred men. Of those,
- 5:42only two were not Pakistani. Michelle Michelle was physically abused
- 5:50in childhood by both her mother and stepfather. Her mother
- 5:53had multiple partners throughout Michelle's childhood, many of whom also
- 5:57abused her, some sexually. She believes this early experience created
- 6:01an association between abuse and love, leaving her particularly vulnerable.
- 6:07From the age of thirteen, she was groomed by three
- 6:10adult Pakistani brothers who supplied her with alcohol, cigarettes, and drugs.
- 6:14She was raped while intoxicated, including one occasion when she
- 6:18was taken upstairs while her sister tried to intervene because
- 6:22of her upbringing, she thought this was normal, that they
- 6:25were her boyfriends and that they loved her. She'd go
- 6:28missing for extended periods and was subjected to repeated daily
- 6:31sexual abuse. The perpetrators would collect her from school, her home,
- 6:36and public places, using threats of violence to course and
- 6:40control her. At age fourteen, she was gang raped and
- 6:44beaten by three men who had locked her in her house.
- 6:47She was left covered in cuts and bruises, which alerted
- 6:50a friend. The friend told her own mother, who then
- 6:53contacted Michelle's mother. The police were called, but they claimed
- 6:57there was little they could do without more evidence. One
- 7:01of the gang members later forced Michelle to go to
- 7:03the police station with him to retract her statement. The
- 7:06police accepted him as her appropriate adult, a role normally
- 7:10reserved for a parent, close family member, social worker, or
- 7:14train professional. The investigation was subsequently dropped. One of Michelle's friends,
- 7:20who lived in a care home, would be collected directly
- 7:23outside by the same gang. Care staff would call the police,
- 7:27but officers reportedly referred to the girls as prostitutes despite
- 7:30them being children. Both social services and police, Michelle says,
- 7:36failed to understand the situation and believe the girls were
- 7:39engaging in the activity by choice. As a result, little
- 7:43was done to intervene. When she was abducted and went missing,
- 7:47no one came looking for A social worker once told
- 7:50her that, at age fourteen, she would be allowed to
- 7:53live with her thirty year old boyfriend as long as
- 7:56they didn't share a room. Michelle was raped in bin sheds,
- 8:00threatened with a knife, and forced into sex with multiple
- 8:03men waiting in cars. She was drugged, beaten, burned with cigarettes,
- 8:07locked in rooms, and passed between men. An amusement arcade
- 8:11was used as a front for drug dealing and the
- 8:14sexual exploitation of children. She became pregnant four times as
- 8:18a child as a result of rape, leading to miscarriages,
- 8:21one abortion, and one surviving child. Of her abusers, she
- 8:26states ninety eight percent of them were a Pakistani Muslim.
- 8:30If not, they were Iraqi Muslim or a Kurdish. Michelle
- 8:34believes that these gangs have remained untouchable because authorities feared
- 8:38being labeled as racist. She describes extensive networks of abusers
- 8:44operating across the entire country, calling it industrial in scale.
- 8:48It functions as a large central network with smaller connected
- 8:51groups in specific localities. Michelle claims she was raped by
- 8:55between six and seven hundred different men over the course
- 8:59of three years. She now lives with severe PTSD and
- 9:03lifelong trauma, describing both her childhood and her future as destroyed.
- 9:09Whitney Whitney grew up in a vulnerable household. Her mother
- 9:13suffered from severe mental health issues, and her father was
- 9:16absent from her life. She was first groomed and sexually
- 9:19abused at the age of fifteen by two adult Pakistani brothers.
- 9:24One of the brothers, Whitney recalls, acted as a boyfriend figure.
- 9:28Both brothers would regularly take her to a flat in Birmingham,
- 9:31supplier with alcohol, and, in her words, she would have
- 9:34sex with them. Their interactions with Whitney soon turned violent.
- 9:39They began beating her and on one occasion, held a
- 9:41hot iron to her face. Whitney recalls that the brothers
- 9:45stopped contacting her after they arrived at her house to
- 9:48collect her and found all of her uncles sitting on
- 9:50the wall outside. After that incident, they never came back.
- 9:55She cannot remember exactly how or why her uncles were there,
- 9:59but she believed her mother had asked them to intervene.
- 10:02Many years later, Whitney's daughter began self harming at age
- 10:06eleven and even attempted suicide. Her phone contained sexually explicit messages.
- 10:11Whitney's daughter told her there was a sex room at
- 10:14school run by the older boys. Deeply concerned for her daughter,
- 10:18Whitney contacted Social Services. They offered little support beyond talking
- 10:23through the problems. In one instant, Social Services accidentally sent
- 10:27her six other children's case files instead of her daughters,
- 10:31which left her deeply distrustful of their ability to help.
- 10:35Whitney's daughter was coerced in descending sexual image, which was
- 10:38then circulated across multiple schools, the local community, and eventually
- 10:43the Internet. This led to her receiving unwanted attention from
- 10:46adult men of various ethnicities and from multiple countries. From
- 10:51that point on, Whitney's daughter began going missing regularly. These
- 10:56disappearances were directly linked to sexual demands and exploitation by
- 11:00older boys and adult men. She was threatened with violence
- 11:04if she contacted the police, and sometimes returned home with
- 11:07items of clothing missing. Whitney repeatedly reported her concerns to
- 11:12the police and social services, clearly stating that she believed
- 11:15her daughter was being sexually exploited. Police responses were often delayed,
- 11:21statements were not taken, and investigations were closed without further action.
- 11:26Social Services refused to relocate the family, downgraded the risk level,
- 11:30and eventually closed the case despite ongoing exploitation. Whitney herself
- 11:36was blamed and her own pass was used to undermine
- 11:38her credibility as a parent. Her family received repeated threats,
- 11:43including warnings that their house would be burned down, faces
- 11:46would be slashed, and machetes would be used. Later, Whitney
- 11:52discovered that her daughter had been placed on the National
- 11:55Referral Mechanism as a trafficking victim without her being informed.
- 11:59The NRM is the UK's official framework for identifying, referring
- 12:04and supporting victims of human trafficking and modern slavery, and
- 12:08serves as a recognition by a designated professional that an
- 12:12individual is a potential victim of human trafficking or modern slavery.
- 12:16All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up right there, and
- 12:18in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna
- 12:21pick up with the testimony of Sally. All the information
- 12:26that goes with this episode can be found in the
- 12:28description box.